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[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] Prepare to experience the strongest radio allowable by law will be revealed ministers about a jam where excuses never apply it superhuman radio with your host Carl annoy.

[00:00:30] Hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of supremum radio on this one is especially important. If you are like me and realize that sleep is at the root of most disease States today, and at least it could be said that correcting sleep problems can only help you get better faster. Then you are not only going to want to listen Today show with great attention, but you're going to want to take action [00:01:00] and I'll tell you why you can't fix something.

[00:01:04] If you can't measure it first, if you're just taking supplements that you think are making you sleep better. Without really being able to quantify the effect that they're having on the different stages of sleep. Remember each of each stage of sleep has a different value to us.  It was once thought that deep sleep was the only thing that was important.

[00:01:27] Excuse me. Now, we're knowing and learning that REM sleep, which is responsible for memory consolidation. Actually is the part of sleep for the brain. Specifically and being able to take steps to First quantify how much deep sleep and REM sleep you're getting but also. The things that you're doing that you think are improving sleep what the effects they're having on those different stages of sleep is critical [00:02:00] and don't you want to know don't you really want to know how well you're sleeping you wake up in the morning you feel like I I'm not rested but I keep taking my melatonin.

[00:02:10] I keep taking you know my sleep aids and I just don't feel that good. Well you can discover. Why it is that the things you think are doing for sleep are not working. Now with what I think is the single best sleep tracking device in the world and I don't say that as a total pimp job. I say that genuinely I've owned one for a year.

[00:02:36] I've owned one for a year and I'm joined today by Nicole boo. How you doing the coal? 

[00:02:44] Nicole Bu: [00:02:44] Great.

[00:02:45] Carl Lanore: [00:02:45] Thanks for being here. Thanks for being here. And she is a representative of the company that makes the sleep on ring go to sleep is the name of the company correct? That that I get that right go to sleep as the name of the company and sleep on [00:03:00] is the ring.

[00:03:01] Nicole Bu: [00:03:01] It's another way around all the

[00:03:03] Carl Lanore: [00:03:03] other way around, okay? So I'm gonna go up

[00:03:07] Nicole Bu: [00:03:07] there and sleep on is the company name.

[00:03:10] Carl Lanore: [00:03:10] Okay. Okay, and so let's start at the beginning. This ring was actually developed by someone who has been creating wearable devices in Silicon Valley for like 20 years now, right?

[00:03:25] Nicole Bu: [00:03:25] Yeah, so he's name is Klaus and he is the first one to invent the. Heart race measuring wearable device ands, he sold a company to install for a hundred forty mediums and and then after he got the funds and then he start this company so it's like he's being doing the wearable device like being printed years.

[00:03:55] Carl Lanore: [00:03:55] Now he has a he has a special interest [00:04:00] obviously and Sleep Quality. He must realize. The importance of Sleep Quality because the the go to sleep ring.  Is the closest thing without encephalographic it's the closest thing I've ever seen in my life to being able to put on your finger and have a sleep study done every single night of your life.

[00:04:22] Am I exaggerating?  No,

[00:04:26] Nicole Bu: [00:04:26] absolutely not.  so.

[00:04:31] Carl Lanore: [00:04:31] No, go ahead. Good.

[00:04:33] Nicole Bu: [00:04:33] Yeah, so it's we have like a minutes reports of yours sleep oxygen level and your heart rate and your toss and turn and your sleep apnea index. That's the apnea hypopnea index also known as h i so. And also like [00:05:00] sleep stages that's really important things Carl mentioned just now so it's technically like you are doing this overnight overnight sleep tasks like every night, but you can see a really like come systems like day to day and you can really get a monthly and weekly and yearly reports to see how tourists leave.

[00:05:27] It's going

[00:05:28] Carl Lanore: [00:05:28] so I want to show people what we're talking about here this little pod. I'm gonna hold it up and if you can see it, it's the size of a very large vitamin pill that most people take and it comes with three different sizable soft rubber rings.  So you get the one that fits your finger best and you put the pod in.

[00:05:52] This little pot is amazing what it does. Now. This is not this is not an activity tracker. You're not wearing [00:06:00] this around people looked at the first time I talked about it people said she that looks large and cumbersome to wear. No you wearing it when you sleep and you're actually wearing it on the inside of your hand.

[00:06:11] So the Pod is going on the inside of your finger like this.  like. And so and you just go to sleep with it and it doesn't bother you. You don't notice it. Boom. You just go to sleep with it. You take it off in the morning. In fact, when you take it off you lay the ring upside down and that shuts it off and when you put the ring on it senses your skin and so on and it turns back on.

[00:06:36] Okay, so very very simple device, but this little pod here is amazing.  The fact that they can put so many. Tests for sleep in this little pod is just when I first saw it, I thought how could it really do all these things and it does and the so if you have a Fitbit and you're saying well my Fitbit, does that already or you have a [00:07:00] or ring which I wear just because I want to track my steps throughout the day.

[00:07:04] I don't use I don't use the data for my or ring for my sleep quantification because I use this one. Because this one gives you much more detailed break out of deep sleep this several levels of deep sleep. This one gets it or ring. Does it so it breaks out the sleep cycles to more dramatically distinct so you can actually see because every one of these sleep cycles, if you go to a sleep study, they know that this level of deep sleep is important that when you don't spend a lot of time and we have to figure out how to improve that one also.

[00:07:40] It's a constant minute by minute real-time pulse oximeter. It looks at your oxygen level in your blood throughout the whole night. So those out there who think you know, I snore my wife says I snore and sometimes I think I may be holding [00:08:00] my breath. I wake up I exhausted in the morning, but my doctor won't order a sleep study because my insurance company won't pay for it.

[00:08:06] Here you go. This will tell you. If your oxygen level is dropping in the middle of the night, how often is dropping that's the aah I apnea hypoxia index that Nicole was talking about you can unlock you'll sleep with this ring in the first time you sleep with you go. Oh God, I'm sleeping like crap.

[00:08:26] No wonder why I feel the way I do in the morning. And then once you die, you realize that then you can say well I'm going to try this supplement. I'm going to try blue blocking glasses before I go to bed. To see if sleep latency changes, you can actually fix your sleep in a short period of time because this will give you all the information you need to know about how you're really sleeping now.

[00:08:50] II wanted Nicole on the show because there's a lot of people in my audience that have sleep problems. I get emails about this all the time. What can I do I sleep like crap [00:09:00] if you're really sincere about saving your own life. The first thing you could do is buy. The go to sleep ring because otherwise you don't really know how you sleeping.

[00:09:12] Okay, so let's talk about the different features, Nicole.  The apnea hypoxia index will actually show somebody if they are having sleep apnea before they're actually diagnosed with it, correct? 

[00:09:26] Nicole Bu: [00:09:26] Can you repeat that again?

[00:09:27] Carl Lanore: [00:09:27] So the apnea hypoxia index is a way for someone to know whether or not they actually have sleep apnea.

[00:09:35] Nicole Bu: [00:09:35] Yes, so that's like calculating how many times of sleep apnea you have throughout the night? No, let me correct that stuff like per hour. Yes. O8 I is like how many times of sleep apnea you have per hour. So if you are reaching like a more than [00:10:00] like 30. Hii per hour that's you for having severe sleep apnea or so.

[00:10:07] That's how they qualify and to measure like what? Like which level of like severity of sleep apnea you have?

[00:10:17] Carl Lanore: [00:10:17] Okay. So normal people could only because I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea several years ago, and I've actually corrected it. I'm almost not even using a CPAP anymore at all. I actually can take naps without it and it doesn't I don't have the problems.

[00:10:31] But the average person has five H is an hour that means five times an hour where you're breathing. Is not delivering enough oxygen so you have to Super compensate by doing one of these.

[00:10:51] Where it's a really deep breath and you release because the body is saying, you know, we don't have enough oxygen. Can you give us one really [00:11:00] deep breath because when you go to sleep the average person breathes anywhere from 14 to 16 times a minute. And these are shallow breaths because you're sleeping you'd the muscles are relaxed.

[00:11:11] So every now and then the body has to compensate and go.  And if you sleep with somebody and you're awake, you'll see them do this. They the society for obstructive sleep apnea says five an hour is the average person and if you have as many as eight or nine, they still aren't worried when you start getting to 10 and 12.

[00:11:34] Now your blood oxygen is dropping low enough where it will wake you up gently start to wake you up and you come out of sleep and then you have to go back into sleep. And you do that 10 times an hour. That's every six minutes and you wake up in the morning and you go man. I don't feel like I slept less that well you didn't you woke up every six minutes and then had to go back [00:12:00] into sleep people who end up.

[00:12:03] As Nicole is talking about 30 times a minute. They're already very sick. These people have they're having problems with heart rate. Their heartbeat is changing. They're having problems with clubbing of the fingers to the fingernail start to round out because the periphery the periphery of the body isn't getting oxygen.

[00:12:21] They start to have all the symptoms in sign of Frank obstructive sleep apnea. They're in trouble. And they could save their own lives with the ring like this because they could start doing things change your pillow change the pressure on your CPAP because there are people out there that have CPAP Saint in there still haven't 15 episodes an hour.

[00:12:43] This ring allows you to dial stuff in and try things and go. Wow that work while that didn't but if you have an ihi higher than let's say eight you're now starting to cross into the threshold where your body. Is starting to suffer from the lack of oxygen and the [00:13:00] fact that this has a pulse oximeter built into it is Magic to me.

[00:13:04] When I first started doing this using this ring. I was having several episodes even with the CPAP on where my blood Ox was just dropping below 80% and that's bad when it goes below 80% You can actually set a biological alarm on this where it vibrates your finger and it just gently makes you stop and start breathing again.

[00:13:26] It doesn't wake you up. But when I started to use this ring, I was like, oh man, I'm still my blood oxygen is still dropping in the middle of the night. I realized it was my pillow because what I was doing was I sleep on my back I start on my side I sleep on my back when I would get on my back. My neck would roll forward like this and I would actually have trouble getting a good breath.

[00:13:48] So I bought one of those my pillows that that guy Mike talks about and I actually formed it to my head and that changed that would but I wouldn't have known that if I wasn't rare and wearing this ring.  [00:14:00] I mean to me this there isn't a person on the planet that's older than 30 years old that should everybody should have one of these if you're older than 30 because it's sleep is what goes bad.

[00:14:13] Before you start developing type 2 diabetes heart problems and so on and so forth. That's my opinion very very strong opinion. So let's talk about what else the ring does Nicole. So what are they taught us in turn talk about why that's important.

[00:14:28] Nicole Bu: [00:14:28] So if your toss and turn a loss that means you're in like a really you are not sleeping.

[00:14:36] Well, you are like consoling like moving, you know, some people they have like, Restless leg syndrome. It's like it's really like you are having so many activities during the nights. That's it. Cause you loss of energy and is not like you are in a resting stage. Your you're having like you're like having [00:15:00] Marathon at night and it's like it really consume your energy instead of like revealing them.

[00:15:06] So. That's really important to track your toss and turn and if you know that you have like too many call center and that's you know that you have to change something. You might not like want to exercise like before you sleep to to just like to just energize yourself before you sleep and that's might cause you to just like continue.

[00:15:32] You cannot come down like when you sleep and. Taking or too hot shower before night can also have like you can just like makes you excited because the same issue so you really need to know that like

[00:15:49] Carl Lanore: [00:15:49] how

[00:15:49] Nicole Bu: [00:15:49] you are how you are behaving when you're asleep.

[00:15:53] Carl Lanore: [00:15:53] The reason a hot shower works is because the body is supposed to cool down [00:16:00] at night when you sleep your body temperature drops slightly a half a degree.

[00:16:05] Some people more but it shouldn't go up if it goes up and you get warmer your body's actually fighting something and you're not sleeping if that's happening because that means the body is active the immune system is active your body is working so you won't sleep. Well, so you body temperature is actually supposed to drop a little bit and that is supposed to improve sleep latency in your ability to fall asleep.

[00:16:29] So there are people out there who will take a hot shower. Or even a hot bath before bed. They'll get in bed. Don't feel warm from the hot shower. But all of a sudden the body starts to cool off. It's that transition of being warm and cooling off that actually makes everything slow down and makes you fall asleep.

[00:16:48] Another thing that I found out was for people who say I have such a hard time falling asleep. My mind is racing. I'm thinking I'll lay there for an hour before. I like I can't fall asleep. I lay there [00:17:00] for a while. Well get a plastic bag with ice and some water wrap it with a towel. So condensation doesn't wet your forehead and hold it right on your forehead.

[00:17:12] And I promise you if you're somebody who has trouble falling asleep, you'll fall asleep and under 15 minutes because cooling the brain off the frontal lobe of the brain actually slows down thought processing. Yes. Add that slowing down the thought processing allows you to fall asleep faster. In fact, there's a company that is capitalized on this phenomenon and they make something that you sleep with that has it's like a little refrigerator that pumps cold water through and back out and it works that way all night.

[00:17:49] They keep it you keep it on your head all night to keep it cold so you can fall asleep and stay asleep. But if you just have trouble falling asleep or not staying asleep. Just holding the ice pack on their. For a few minutes [00:18:00] sometimes 578 minutes while just till you get tired and taking off will help you fall asleep, but you don't know about sleep latency improving as much if you don't wear this ring.

[00:18:12] You may think you're falling asleep sooner, but you're not really going into deep sleep fast. And that's another thing the rate of time it takes you to fall into deep sleep is critical very very, So yes, you're right warming up and then cooling off absolutely will help you fall asleep. What are the features does the ring have that we should talk about here for the audience.

[00:18:34] Nicole Bu: [00:18:34] I just want to add on to the toss and turn that's like one thing really important as like when the weather change when the weather changes like it's like getting into summer and as getting hot. But that's your not adjusting to your temperature. That's it's like room temperature is like so important for your Sleep [00:19:00] Quality,

[00:19:00] Carl Lanore: [00:19:00] right?

[00:19:00] That's

[00:19:01] Nicole Bu: [00:19:01] we might just not notice that like, sometimes we're like we are not recognizing that it's getting hotter and I need to adjust my AC temperature something so having. The toss and turn to track your Sleep Quality actually can tell you that you are feeling a hops and nights and that's the reason why you're moving a lot of you're struggling at night.

[00:19:30] So it's like the same thing that's for like a hot bath or like you exercise before nights, which you didn't cool down. 

[00:19:40] Carl Lanore: [00:19:40] That's a really good point the ringel the river. You may not notice it. Until it gets so unbearably hot. But by then your sleep may have suffered for an entire month

[00:19:49] Nicole Bu: [00:19:49] Mmm Yeah. 

[00:19:53] Carl Lanore: [00:19:53] And God, I'm sorry.

[00:19:54] What?

[00:19:55] Nicole Bu: [00:19:55] Yeah, sorry and like when women's are [00:20:00] getting like there.  getting like their menopause and like they have the symptoms their hormone levels change and. And there are easy to sweat a night and peoples who sweats at night easily tend to feel like few hearts and just like they the same thing like they struggle and nice and you really need to know that like you're toss and turn, you know, that's you the what's what happens.

[00:20:36] I'm not.

[00:20:37] Carl Lanore: [00:20:37] Yeah, because you're right you're cause you're sleeping so you don't know how much you're moving and that alone could be the thing that's causing you to wake up and not feel rested. The other thing that I love about it is it tracks heart rate, but it does it so much better. So my or my ordering doesn't track my heart rate because for some reason in my hands the what is it called [00:21:00] capillary blood flow in my hands is not enough to trigger.

[00:21:06] The infrared or whatever it is that the LED in there that you can't see the light coming out of it. It doesn't work and I don't care about it. Anyway, because I use my my go to sleep ring to track my heart rate and but what that tells you is your level of Readiness the next day if you've been training hard one of the first things that will happen is your heart rate will stay elevated at night.

[00:21:32] Also if you're someone who eats right before bed. Your heart rate will stay elevated at night. They call people whose heart rate stays elevated at night in the medical community non Dippers. Why is this important? Because non Dippers have heart attacks in their sleep tenfold more often than people who actually see a dip in their pulse rate at night.

[00:21:57] My heart rate goes down into the high 40s when I sleep [00:22:00] especially when I'm in that deep level of sleep. And so my heart rate starts out high and then it goes down and then it goes down into a valley and stays down there for a while and then it starts to come back up as they are close to morning and when REM sleep starts to happen.

[00:22:15] So it's important to know this not just because hey I got to go to the gym tomorrow. Maybe I should take off because if you start if you if you're a non Dipper and you didn't eat right before bed then you may be over training. And I would literally take off until I started to see that dip happen again.

[00:22:35] And then I start going back to the gym you have anything to add to that Nicole? 

[00:22:40] Nicole Bu: [00:22:40] yeah, I think I definitely agree what you what car stops and I think like they're actually over 22 million people in a you asked that's actually experiencing some level of sleep apnea and only not. Like [00:23:00] it's like the Earth 80% of dams are undiagnosed.

[00:23:03] And if it's not if it's you you don't realize that you have sleep. Apnea. You're not going to change it and it can cause like like hypertension it just as what Carl mentioned. That's your you're not deeper and it's like your heart rate is just like on a really high level and it really cost like heart disease.

[00:23:28] Hypertension's and it can change your mood to like you feel like because you didn't sleep well at night and you don't have like energy during the day and it really cost mental illness and like depressions. And so there are so many like it's this is a stats like related to your sleep quality.

[00:23:52] Carl Lanore: [00:23:52] Absolutely. Absolutely. We're going to take a break in a. I want to tell everybody who's watching that there is a bitly [00:24:00] link in the post here on the Facebook live and it's also if you're listening to the podcast, it's also on the Superhuman Radio dotnet website in the show post today.  When when this ring first came out, it was quite a bit more expensive and it's come down in price quite a bit.

[00:24:23] My audience will get an additional 15% off putting the ring it around $85 84 dollars, give or take some pennies this ring.  Is the most important wearable device you can buy and buy them for your family. One of the things that I love about this device is that the software allows to register and track multiple users.

[00:24:48] You don't have to have the app running at night. The ring stores all of your data and then in the morning you dump the data and by the way dumping the data [00:25:00] from the go to sleep ring is 10 times faster than dumping the data from my ordering. I have to stand there and wait for my or ring to update the go to sleep go to sleep ring the data dumps like this boom.

[00:25:11] It's all and you can see everything but you can if you have a child that snores. That is been more children who snore actually have ADHD. I did that show like three or four years ago the link between narrow jaw snoring and ADHD in children when the children have the work done on their jaw to actually make the palate wider so that they don't have obstruction in the throat and stop snoring the HD ADHD goes away if you you need to have these for your children for your wife for you your husband, whoever.

[00:25:45] And the app allows you to use it for the whole family. And the other thing that I've said early on when I first started talking about this ring almost a year ago. I said doctors need to have three or four of these on hand and here's why because [00:26:00] insurance companies are regularly denying sleep studies unless you can prove that this person is at risk.

[00:26:09] They don't want to pay sleep studies a very very expensive you gotta and then your patient has to spend the night wired up. They don't sleep good in the sleep study because they're sleeping in an Institutional environment with wires and hoses and everything hooked up to them. And so a lot of insurance companies are going you know, these sleep studies.

[00:26:26] We don't want to pay for them. We don't even know if they're necessary. Well if you're a. And you have a patient you're starting to see fingernail clubbing. You're starting to see color changes in their lips your stay there complaining that they wake up exhausted. They fall asleep all day long their spouses said they snore like a freight train you send them home with the ring and you tell them and the charger you tell him to wear it for the next three nights charge it every day put it on at night I go to sleep with it and then they come to the office and you dump everything into the app and you look at them go.

[00:26:57] Oh my God. You've got [00:27:00] 25. Aah eyes an hour. We need to get you a CPAP quickly. So you don't have to take them out of their environment. You don't have to worry about insurance companies denying to send them for a sleep study every physician. Every general practitioner should have three of these rings on hand to send patients home with you have people doing that now Nicole you see more Physicians do that.

[00:27:26] Nicole Bu: [00:27:26] Yeah, definitely. And also like there are some like the Japanese Japan National sleep Foundation is there are like they're they're using this for their members just to keep track of their sleep disorders. So as like we are having 30 over 30,000 users from around the world and. Some of them sort of Physicians some of them Surah like [00:28:00] institutions like the Japan Japan's International Japan National sleep Foundation steps are using the ring to keep tracks of their members Sleep Disorders.

[00:28:13] Carl Lanore: [00:28:13] I want to I want to comment on Diego papparella has two comments here. He said bet bag breathing increases CO2 and also helps to lower blood pressure and relax and that can be. To change sleep latency, but I want to make a correction on this comment. You have here increased CO2 only reduces sleep apnea and people with Central sleep apnea and Central sleep apnea is not obstructive.

[00:28:40] The brain the brain is not telling the person to breathe and that is where a CO2 increases can actually have a beneficial effect on sleep. But if somebody has a obstructive sleep apnea where the airway is collapsing.  Changing the blood levels of CO2 have [00:29:00] no effect because it's mechanically collapsing and the only thing that can reverse that collapse is for them to wake up because what's happening is nervous system tone is being reduced in the throat and there's generally in these people.

[00:29:17] There's a level of inflammation. In the airway to begin with that's making the tissue create a narrower are way to begin with. So theoretically if they didn't have the inflammation to Airway would be very very big and they fall asleep and intonation of the muscles would would relax but they'd only be this here, but because they're inflamed and they're starting out here and nervous system tone is changing in the roof of the mouth and the palate it's claps.

[00:29:46] Changing CO2 levels has no effect on that and I can show you how to use critical thinking to figure this out on your own every time they stop breathing their CO2 levels go through the roof.  So every time they stopped if they stopped [00:30:00] breathing 10 times 20 times an hour their CO2 levels are going through the roof.

[00:30:04] That's what's telling their brain wake this person up because we're going to we're going to die. We're going to suffocate but CO2 levels influence. Central sleep apnea very well in your right and the best thing for those people to do is to do what does that to sleep? It starts with a k. Yeah, Peter Peter lakatos is going to get mad at me for not knowing the answer to this but you can start doing there certain breathing techniques where you where you actually breathe less and less and you get your body used to higher CO2 levels.

[00:30:37] Those people will benefit from that type of an approach what I want to say katsu, but it's not katsu. It's it'll come to me. You're probably coming to me during the break. But yes, those people absolutely can benefit. From from Central sleep apnea by increasing CO2 levels, so you're absolutely right.

[00:30:55] Okay, we're going to take a quick commercial break and when we come back going to come or back with more [00:31:00] but I'm telling you folks. I've never promoted anything as heavy as I'm promoting this ring and you know why that is because people reach out to me when they are really in bad shape and you won't get in bad shape.

[00:31:13] If you start tracking your sleep with the go to sleep. You'll actually avoid a lot of the age-related diseases that people are struggling with today. Stay tuned. We'll be right back. Welcome back. We're talking about the go to sleep ring.  It's the single best wearable device to track your sleep and determine how well you're sleeping.

[00:31:32] Okay. So two things Diego did come up with the name. It's called buteyko people who have Central sleep apnea. Do very well when they use buteyko breathing techniques which ink gently increases the body's both tolerance and levels of CO2 very very important. And the other thing I wanted to mention was but those of you who watch Dancing with the Stars, you know, Max Max Chmerkovskiy Max is both a fan of the [00:32:00] show and he's been on the show.

[00:32:01] And so when I posted the other day on Instagram that we were going to do an interview about this device he posted. I've been using for a few months now. I can definitely do my own sleep studies with this ring. And of course you learned from it about it from me because when I got mine, I told everybody I know you got to get one of these too.

[00:32:22] So there you go. So the.  The ring comes with a silicone the Pod comes with three different silicone rings that it fits into. And it's important that this fit tightly on the finger isn't it to get the true pulse oximeter and heart rate? Is that why you use that that the silicone stretchy material?

[00:32:49] Nicole Bu: [00:32:49] Yes, it's like it's not causing a me disturbing feelings during your sleep. So one of three ponds Rings that's like prominence [00:33:00] for is like super comfortable. It's at night because like. It's like a cynic is really soft and flexible silicon spring and it's like the food grade silicone ring. So it's like not causing and any like our logic effects.

[00:33:18] So so we've thought about all of that

[00:33:22] Carl Lanore: [00:33:22] yum. And now the app itself has undergone several revisions. The new app is beautiful. It's easy to read. It breaks out data, very very easy very quickly. And you can also not only just look at the overall report, but you can actually go to the minute-by-minute report, which is actually second by second of all of these different things that it's measuring and you can select I just want to see because like sometimes I want to see when I was trying to discover why my oxygen level was dropping periodically at night.

[00:33:59] I took [00:34:00] the this feature. And I looked at all the data. It looks like like like on a graph here by the time is is logged on top and so I would say okay.  Let me select my blood oxygen levels. Now. Let me select my deep sleep. Now. I had nothing to do with that. Let me select my toss and turn. Oh I see there's a correlation between my toss and turn and my oxygen dropping so you can actually select each of these data points.

[00:34:31] Look at it on the entire night look at it when it fluctuates and look at it that it how it's being affected or affecting something else on on the graph that is priceless. That is really what you would expect from a very expensive medical device.

[00:34:54] You want to comment about that?

[00:34:56] Nicole Bu: [00:34:56] Yes, absolutely. Actually, I want to show like the graph. [00:35:00] If like I don't know whether in my screen is like too small just hold

[00:35:06] Carl Lanore: [00:35:06] it just hold it up as close to your camera as possible. I'll tell you where you are. 

[00:35:11] Nicole Bu: [00:35:11] Yes, so so we do have like so you can like after you come that's your ring with the phone at night and you can just shut down your phone kiss just as Carl mentioned that the ring has its own storage.

[00:35:28] After you wake up during the day after you wake up, you can just like reconnects your phones and reconnect your phone and the rain again, and it can just like just like instantly it can generate this report every day. So it has all this data.  Right,

[00:35:50] Carl Lanore: [00:35:50] right, how can I but then it but then it has the minute report.

[00:35:53] Can you show that yes.

[00:35:55] Nicole Bu: [00:35:55] Is this the minutes reports

[00:35:57] Carl Lanore: [00:35:57] and then turn it sideways. Let's see if okay. Turn it [00:36:00] sideways turn the phone. So yeah, so you can see the minute report has all of these data points like you're looking at an echocardiogram at the hospital. It has all of these data points horizontally running together so you can see wow when I was having trouble breathing that is when I was in REM sleep.

[00:36:21] Every night that happens you can start to determine you can pinpoint specific things and fine-tune your sleep. Nobody. Does this not not Fitbit not ordering nobody. This is amazing to me amazing. 

[00:36:35] Nicole Bu: [00:36:35] Yeah, and also like you can send later release endless reports to your doctor and he can tell you here and she can tell you what's going on and just click Prince here and you can have this.

[00:36:50] This really detailed reports throughout the nights as a minutes reports. 

[00:36:56] Carl Lanore: [00:36:56] Yeah, it's really there's nothing like there's nothing like the go to sleep ring. I [00:37:00] have to thank my good friend Billy Mitchell. We both got orderings at the same time and he called me and said I just found this go to sleep ring check it out.

[00:37:09] And I was like, oh man, this is like half the price of the the order ring, but it's just for sleep. It's not going to do activity tracking. And he was the one who inspired me to get one and I'm so happy that I did because this ring is if you're serious about tracking your sleep. This is it I'll tell you another thing that I love about this ring if you wake up while you're in deep Sleep, you don't wake up refreshed and ready to go.

[00:37:39] So the go to sleep ring has a built-in alarm clock you can set it and so let's say you want to be. At six a.m.  But let's say the ring sees that you're at a stage of sleep that if if you wake up now, you're not going to feel great but 15 minutes ago, if we would have woke you up you'd [00:38:00] feel great. It actually selects the best time to wake you up within a window.

[00:38:05] So if you say I want to be up by six, it'll say between 5:30 and 6:00. And sometime between 5:30 and 6 when you're at the perfect stage to wake up the ring starts to vibrate on your finger gently. It's like someone just just gently rubbing your finger and you just come out of sleep. You don't feel like you're waking up bike because the ring is waking you up.

[00:38:27] You just feel like you're coming out of sleep. So the ring actually predicts when to wake you up. So you feel the most refresh. That's an amazing feature Nicole amazing and it works great.

[00:38:41] Nicole Bu: [00:38:41] Yeah, definitely. So it's just us what Carl mentioned. That's it. Just you wake up in the light sleep stage this huge few much refreshing and it might just like because we have a trend in - range.

[00:38:57] Let's within you can set [00:39:00] you can set your

[00:39:02] Carl Lanore: [00:39:02] microwave move it the other way move it towards your face. Well, there you go and just take it back a little bit bring it. There we go. There we go.

[00:39:08] Nicole Bu: [00:39:08] Right so you can set the trend in minutes time frame and with Vince just trying to move this you mother ends your might be in a transition strong and a Sly sleep stage 2 to deep sleep and we never want to wake you up at the Deep Sleep stage because it makes you feel so tired and just don't want to wake.

[00:39:35] Carl Lanore: [00:39:35] Yeah, it's really an amazing ring. There's nothing like it. How long has it been available now, Nicole? 

[00:39:42] Nicole Bu: [00:39:42] It's being a bit more than two years.

[00:39:46] Carl Lanore: [00:39:46] And what are the kind of I mean, you've got to be getting amazing responses from people that have actually changed the quality of their sleep using this ring as a way to measure the quality of sleep.

[00:40:00] [00:40:00] Nicole Bu: [00:40:00] Yes. So we have it just like what you mentioned that after people like can have can quantify their Sleep Quality and they start to change their Lifestyles because really because you really cannot feel that it's being so severe that's you are not breathing at night. Like if you don't see the reports you might never.

[00:40:30] Whew that urgent that's you have to change something. 

[00:40:34] Carl Lanore: [00:40:34] Okay, I want to put Kirk Jaeger's question up here. He says when we collect this data, what do we do to address these interruptions or precisely interpret the data to better restore sleep? Okay, so that that's a discussion about Sleep Quality and sleep hygiene, but just to kind of give you like some examples so.

[00:40:58] If if [00:41:00] you're sleeping eight seven to nine hours, they the people who claim to be addressing good sleep quality sleep say that at least 20% of that should be deep and 20% of that should be REM, however my own personal experience with people who are using this ring and and who are seeing great results by altering their sleep.

[00:41:24] There's they're getting at least two hours of REM and two hours of sleep a night.  So.  that's probably a little bit more than than the 20% depending on how many hours is sleeping and the more REM in the more deep sleep you get.  The better you will age the better your brain will age the better you will feel sleepy.

[00:41:48] And people will notice that you look different you feel different. I'm telling you when I sleep good people go man. You look different today. Yeah, I got a couple good night's sleep. It feels amazing. So [00:42:00] what do you do to influence those things that varies right? So not eating before bed 3 hours before going to sleep will improve.

[00:42:09] Your deep sleep dramatically. So if you're not getting enough deep sleep in your eating an hour or two before bed. Stop that movie to three hours. Make sure you if you go to sleep at nine. Make sure you finished eating at six. You cannot get into deep sleep if the factory is working digesting food.

[00:42:26] Number two, the thing that influences both deep sleep and REM sleep is not using RF devices half hour before bed. You'll see that. Your deep sleep latency will change you can actually if you use a cell phone before bed. And if even if you're just looking at YouTube like I'm gonna watch YouTube before I go to bed.

[00:42:46] I you know, I want to watch the show the RF from that device is radiating six eight inches away from your face and there's good studies out of there coming out of Scandinavia good studies that show that exposure [00:43:00] to 2.5 g 2.4 gigahertz or more a half hour before bed. Reduces of increases the time it takes to get into deep sleep by as much as an hour.

[00:43:12] So now you just robbed an hour's worth of deep sleep. You can improve that by just staying away from RF devices make it a rule an hour before bedtime. The other thing you can do is if you're watching TV at night, this will increase both deep and REM sleep put your blue blocking glasses on to filter out blue light so that the body knows it's nighttime.

[00:43:35] The pituitary does its job. They turning on certain hormones the the pineal gland does its job firing melatonin and you'll see both deep sleep and REM sleep increase. Another thing that includes increases deep sleep and REM sleep is melatonin 600 micrograms to three milligrams is all you need you will see so what we're talking about here is manipulating sleep architecture.

[00:44:00] [00:44:00] There's a lot of things you can do if you wake up in the middle of the night all the time, and you don't know why you may be hypoglycemic at night, but it's not a good idea to eat food before bed because that's going to impair your deep sleep entirely. So what you do is you take 3 to 5 grams of leucine right before but I'm still not losing glycine glycine is the most.

[00:44:21] Gluconeogenic amino acid it's non-caloric and the body will only use glycine to make glucose. When it feels blood sugar dropping dramatically, so you don't have to turn on the adrenal hormones to wake the person up to produce glucose because that's why you're waking up because you're going into hypoglycemia because the glycine will feed the production of glucose without waking up adrenal glands.

[00:44:45] So if you wake up every night at 2 a.m. And you just can't figure it out. I promise. Take 3 to 5 grams of glycine before bed and call me the next day and tell me I'm brilliant because you'll sleep all night. So there's lots of little things you can do to [00:45:00] change sleep architecture But first you have to determine what do you need more of do you need more REM sleep?

[00:45:06] Do you need more deep sleep? Do you need more vothe? Do you need more entire period of time spent and you know, there's there's so many good studies out there that show that if you get less than six hours of sleep continuously. You will become insulin resistant now think how many people sleep five hours they crave carbohydrates the next day.

[00:45:25] They go crazy. I just feel like eating sugar and caught. Yeah, because your insulin sensitivity is whacked and that study was done on Olympic athletes at the one of the Olympic Winter Olympics. We had here in the United States where they disrupted a limp them Olympic athletes sleep two nights in a row.

[00:45:46] And by the first night they had the blood sugar management of a seventy-year-old just one night of short sleep. Same study was done on interns that a working 24-hour shifts in hospitals not getting any sleep [00:46:00] at night. They became spontaneously insulin resistant. So, you know, there's lots of things that you can do to affect sleep architecture that can't be covered in this show by itself.

[00:46:10] I've coveted a numerous other shows. And maybe I need to cover it again as just one big sleep show, but you still got to know what needs to be fixed first. Don't even worry about taking supplements and fixing things until you know, what's broken. You got to get yourself one of these rings. I'm telling you here look so.

[00:46:28] Kirk says yes, I take 3 to 5 grams of glycine pre bed. Does it work for you? That's what I want to know. Does it work for you? Do you notice that you are sleeping longer and not waking up? And address our ANS. I'm not with ANS is.  So Kirk, I'm going to take a break if you can tell me what ANS is abbreviated for and also whether or not the glycine actually works for you.

[00:46:53] Did you learn it here on the show? Also, I'd appreciate that. We'll be right back with more talking about the go to sleep ring. You can say 15% off [00:47:00] just go to this post look for the bitly link. Click it buy it and take control. Of your health by taking control of something that probably has the greatest effect on your health in that sleep will be right back.

[00:47:14] Welcome back. We're talking to Nicole boo. She is with the sleep on company. They make the go to sleep ring. It's the single best sleep tracking device in the world. I don't care. So got a couple questions. So Anna NASA rover has a very logical question. She's what about the level of radiation from this ring?

[00:47:31] There is none. There is none required. Once you connect the ring with your telephone you turn the ring goes into a park mode. Once it loses the signal from the phone. It's not transmitting all night long trying to communicate with the phone. So there is no radiation. And since you're only wearing a during sleeping out wearing it like a sleep track.

[00:47:54] I mean an activity tracker it just just that period of sleep that you're wearing it, but there is none. Am I right? 

[00:48:00] [00:48:01] Nicole Bu: [00:48:01] Yes. So you can like shut down your phone. Like there's like just the ring has its own storage. So you not have any radiations throughout the night,

[00:48:14] Carl Lanore: [00:48:14] right? Okay, and the other thing that I wanted to mention was not to plug Aura but even the order ring can be parked at night.

[00:48:22] You can put it on the airplane mode and shut it off from looking for your phone and trying to send data. So all of these sleep sleep tracking devices except for Fitbit. I believe you can turn off the Bluetooth feature by either using airplane mode or in the case of this the go to sleep ring. Once you sink it once you connect it with your phone.

[00:48:47] It says hello to your phone. It's give you live data. You can see your heart rate. You can see your. Then once you shut your phone off or put your phone on airplane mode, it stops talking. It's not trying to talk to your phone anymore. Once it loses [00:49:00] that connection. It's not transmitting all night long Kirk Yeager said yes, the glycine is very restorative.

[00:49:07] And this is when I take my 81 milligrams of aspirin just prior to taking 1/2 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate. I take sodium bicarb at night to Kirk and you know, what's funny when I take sodium bicarb at night. I only get up to pee one time if I don't take it, I'll get up to pee for five times isn't that amazing?

[00:49:25] I don't understand that what the linkages but I don't know. If you have that same phenomenon all three of these work in concert with a couple bio physiological processes. I love sodium bicarb before bed. And then also he says ANS is and the all he means audit. He says anatomic is autonomic nervous system parasympathetic sympathetic.

[00:49:46] Yes, absolutely. Got it now. Thank you for explaining. Did we miss anything on this interview Nicole? I know I really really yes Kirk notices a to I don't I don't have to pee in the middle of the night [00:50:00] or sometimes. I only have to pee once when I use sodium bicarbonate before bed and keep in mind that's another reason guys when you get older your prostate starts acting up eight milligrams of any of tadalafil which is Cialis a day.

[00:50:18] Change your prostate for the better and you'll stop feeling driven to the sensitivity to pee all the time and taking sodium bicarbonate changes the way your body processes fluids at night and you don't get that full bladder in the middle of the night because getting up and peeing is another disruptor for both men and women so fixing that problem will improve the quality of your sleep.

[00:50:38] Yeah. I know it was a typo. It's cool. Not to worry. I knew Jim and I knew you meant autonomic and not an atomic so you we're all good. But yeah, this ring is a must I know I've really been pushing hard. But I want people to get this ring because I really think of all the devices out there that you can buy that a cool.

[00:50:59] [00:51:00] This ring is the single best way to track and know what in your sleep needs to be fixed and it's only getting better. We're not going to talk about future. Changes by Future changes will occur and in the app changes and you get them. It's so cool, right? There's things that are coming in the future, too.

[00:51:20] Nicole Bu: [00:51:20] Yeah.  Hello.

[00:51:22] Carl Lanore: [00:51:22] No, I'm here. I'm here. Can you hear me? Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to talk about the future because I don't want get people worked up. But this ring is constantly getting better and it's designed so the app the firmware and the app changes and you get these new features. 

[00:51:41] Nicole Bu: [00:51:41] Yeah, so so we have a new feature.

[00:51:44] Actually, I forgot to mention. This was Leaf labeling function. So you really want to know to what? Your daily activities actually causing through nicely and by [00:52:00] labelings your day like every day you can label that I ate this supplements today and and I-84 like for a week and then as you can see like after a month, you can see how your sleep changes when you eat this and when you eat this supplements and when you're not eating.

[00:52:23] So you attach all these slip slip labels to your daily sleep and you can tell like what kinds of activities and what kind of foods are causing you can do like many experiments

[00:52:39] Carl Lanore: [00:52:39] that rat. That's awesome because here's an example so you could say boy every night the past two weeks. I wake up at 2 a.m.

[00:52:46] But I took glycine tonight and I didn't or I put my blue blockers on and I fell asleep faster. Put ice on my forehead knife. So this is brilliant because otherwise you got to keep it in a paper log with a pen. You got to write it [00:53:00] down yourself. Oh looks like we lost signal for a second. Okay, but yeah, that's brilliant.

[00:53:05] That's fantastic. That's fantastic. 

[00:53:09] Nicole Bu: [00:53:09] Yeah, you can just record everything in your app and then like you generate when you generate monthly report, you just kill everything is what you did Sly. And this 30 days and like how it affects your sleep. 

[00:53:25] Carl Lanore: [00:53:25] Yo save you can save 15% off of this must-have device.

[00:53:30] Okay, by going to this post in the body of the post or in the podcast post on our website and or even on the RSS feed the link will be there. You can copy and paste it from your favorite podcast app, whether it's a apple podcast or Stitcher. There's a bitly link. It says Bentley.com /sleep on is what it says you use that link and you automatically are transported to a page where you save [00:54:00] 15% off the price.

[00:54:01] It's like $85 after the discount. It's stupid cheap. It's stupid and expensive is no reason for you not to have this ring and okay, so maybe you sleep with it for six months and you get all your stuff worked out and then you only sleep. Once or twice a week to make sure you're still dialed in and nothing has changed but trust me if you take the time to fix your sleep, you will have a much better life a much better life and the only way to fix your sleep is to know what's going on while you're sleeping and this ring does it for you?

[00:54:32] That's it. I'm not that that's all I'm going to say. I'm pushing hard because I want to see people affect their lives positively Nicole's laughing look you were worried that I was going to make you do all the pitching, huh?

[00:54:45] Nicole Bu: [00:54:45] I really want to thank Carl. I want to claim that this is not a sponsored like livestream.

[00:54:52] It's like really Carl likes think it's a good product and reach out to us to really to she asks [00:55:00] whether we can keep more discounts to his audience because he really wants like everyone's benefits from its and yeah, I think really send cards have me here today.

[00:55:15] Carl Lanore: [00:55:15] Death now, this is good. And I hope that a lot of people take me up on this offer because I'm guaranteed that you'll discover things about your sleep that you never knew.

[00:55:23] And once you fix them you'll feel better. They're called. Thank you for being here today. 

[00:55:28] Nicole Bu: [00:55:28] Thank you Carl. Thank you. Everyone.

[00:55:30] Take care, and we're going to call it a day and.  my allergies are bothering me today. Something is in the air anyway. That's it. We'll see you next week. Thank you for watching.

[00:55:43] Thank you for listening and. Have a nice

[00:56:00] [00:56:07] weekend.