[00:00:00] [00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. We have a great show planned for you today, and actually. If Victor is listening, if you accept my request on Instagram and invite me I and I requested if you let me in they'll pick up my camera to on Instagram so we can actually kind of simulcast this at the same time as the first time I've ever doing that.
[00:00:22] I know Aaron cinnamon is a whiz at doing that sort of stuff but not make any way. We have a fascinating show tonight. I want to preface it by saying that I've done a lot of shows about documentaries over the past 14 years. And a lot of those documentaries have been interesting, you know documentaries are supposed to be interesting this supposed to grip your attention this supposed to make you challenge your thinking the reality is that let me let me lower the volume on my iPhone here so that it doesn't feedback.
[00:00:54] Is this a quite a challenge here? Well, let me it won't let me there goes. Okay, [00:01:00] so. But usually I glean those documentaries. I fast-forward through the my try to get the meat and potatoes and get enough content so that I can ask good questions. I had to do that today. It was a 70 minute documentary.
[00:01:17] I thought I'll get through it in 30 minutes easily. And what ended up happening was every time I thought I should fast forward now something even more compelling came. I ended up watching the whole 70 minute documentary which kind of put me late for today's show as you can see it started 15 minutes late, but it was well worth it.
[00:01:36] I guarantee it. So what I want to I want to frame today's interview. while this journey began with a man's. desire to stop the progression. Of a horrible I disease that leads to blindness what he [00:02:00] has unlocked is a benefit to all of us. Assuming you have a brain that's rhetorical because what he may have discovered is actually the the ways the steps to produce the Superhuman brain.
[00:02:16] My guest today is Victor have said, how you doing, Victor?
[00:02:21] Victor Mifsud: [00:02:21] I'm doing great Carl. How are you?
[00:02:23] Carl Lanore: [00:02:23] Great. Great. I feel like I know you my whole life. It's so funny do people tell you that they that you have that effect on them.
[00:02:31] Victor Mifsud: [00:02:31] Yes, it's funny that you say that because yes, and I know he just saw a film about me.
[00:02:39] And you know, I mean, it's a pretty no holds bar open book Barbara Walters. Kind of conversation that I have with the camera and myself to get there, but it's just this form of radical openness that I've learned [00:03:00] how to how to. Converse it and just be myself essentially.
[00:03:04] Carl Lanore: [00:03:04] Oh, you make yourself very vulnerable in the video very vulnerable.
[00:03:07] You you don't hold anything back. There's nothing shocking about you. It's not like his oh my God, you know, but it's your very genuine in the video you because in in re actuality something I've learned over the years is you can't posture yourself when you're in search of the truth because quite often the truth is painful to somebody so you just can't posture it.
[00:03:28] You can't try to ease. Into a situation you have to just you know, hit it fate head-on, right?
[00:03:36] Victor Mifsud: [00:03:36] Absolutely, and I wasn't always like that. I mean it it stemmed from doing a lot of inner emotional work and you know, like growing up. I was actually quite afraid to tell people that I had this condition and I spent most of my life actually hiding it and compensating its and.
[00:03:56] That didn't work out so well for most of my life. So [00:04:00] I just you know through doing a lot of this work inner work outer work. Just let it go and just drop this fear of really being seen
[00:04:11] Carl Lanore: [00:04:11] so. I don't want to I don't want to go over the whole documentary because. I want my audience to watch the documentary and we will tell you how you can watch it.
[00:04:26] It's a little difficult unfortunately, but Victor is working on solving that problem today so that people can watch it with unfettered access. But if you do want to watch it, we're going to ask you to reach out to Victor or even me. Is that okay Vic if they reach out to me too and we'll send you with send you a link in a password to watch it because right now.
[00:04:47] The network that produced it is kind of they're not really giving full unfettered access to it. And it's just a technicality. It's not like he's oh they're being hard about it. But nonetheless, yeah [00:05:00] God's got please
[00:05:01] Victor Mifsud: [00:05:01] just because the Canadian Network owns it so it's a you know, it's there's the whole thing with certain rights does a TV version and a full-length feature version the TV versions available on the am I.
[00:05:14] External media Incorporated website. That's the 48th minute version into the feature version. We are we in some festivals and some private screening. So we're still in the works of getting people to see it. So some people have I've sent some people some private links and but we're in the process of getting it, you know more available for people to see.
[00:05:36] Carl Lanore: [00:05:36] And it and you get you got to see it. You have to see it because like I said because while the journey starts out with Victor's desire to stall the progression of blindness, what is discovered in this video is of Paramount importance to everybody in the world. And I mean when I was watching it, I was thinking [00:06:00] of people with dementia.
[00:06:01] I was thinking of all these different people who. Brain maladies that would benefit from understanding the steps that you've uncovered in trying to stall your own blindness. And the reason for that is because you know a lot of the things in your in your documentary or things that I've talked about a touched upon over the past 14 years and more recently when I talked about the pain from my corneal ulcer.
[00:06:30] I said, you know, like I've I've injured myself over the decades training hard. I've torn muscles rip them off the bones of you know, smashed feet. All of that pain is pretty manageable because we have a saying I work with over and racehorses and they used to say, oh it's a long way from his heart.
[00:06:51] In other words a horse's heart if he hurts his leg on but the reality is it's a long way from your brain. When you're dealing with pain, but your eye is connected to your brain. In [00:07:00] fact, some would argue that it's a part of your brain that happens to reach the outside of your body. And when you have eye pain or eye problems, you really having brain pain and brain problems.
[00:07:12] Would you agree with that statement?
[00:07:14] Victor Mifsud: [00:07:14] So I'd say two things to this the eye is the only part of the brain that we can see and we see with our brains not with our eyes.
[00:07:24] Carl Lanore: [00:07:24] So let's talk about one of the doctors you interviewed for the documentary. Actually when blind in one of his eyes and tell his story briefly and about the whole use it or lose it concept that he applied to regaining his sight.
[00:07:41] Victor Mifsud: [00:07:41] So the fellows name is. Is David Weber? He's not a not a doctor per se but he was a very intelligent man. Unfortunately, he did pass away last year, which I found out he was [00:08:00] actually written about in. Dr. Norman deutsches book the brains way of healing then there's a chapter on him called the blind man who learned to see.
[00:08:12] He had a condition called uveitis very different than my condition. I have a condition called retinitis Pigmentosa. It's seen as a quote-unquote genetic condition. So it's there's so many different types of blindness. I just want to add he had a lot of inflammatory issues that he ended up going blind in.
[00:08:37] In a lot of lot of his eye, so he ended up using this this method called the feldenkrais method to use. I guess it's unconscious unconscious ways to to draw blood in circulation in to deny using these various [00:09:00] techniques by patching an eye and just regular just regulating the system. By throwing a ball into one end to the other with this patch on and then taking the patch off after a while and then it it kind of diss regulates the system.
[00:09:17] So the brain has to sort of work harder then after you take this patch off the exercise of throwing this ball from from hand to hand just becomes so much easier. I mean he uses of other techniques as well as. Like relaxing the eye which is very very important often. You don't realize how much tension we have in the eye brain.
[00:09:39] So there's certain techniques like palming which you end up kind of lightly putting the palms of your hands just over your eyes to sort of take off the tension from your eye muscles holding your eyes
[00:09:52] Carl Lanore: [00:09:52] interested almost like create temporary crutches like temporary crutch.
[00:09:57] Victor Mifsud: [00:09:57] Pretty much and then you kind of realize how much tension [00:10:00] you're actually using to hold your eyes and place often when you're stressed you want you're all focused and your eyes are like zooming in.
[00:10:08] So again, it's all this unconscious tension. A lot of it is somatic tension to traumatic energy that that's hold up in the system that you're actually getting giving a chance for the eyes to relax and often people don't even know. That can feel like even people wear glasses often classes prescription are way too strong for your eyes in the modern Atomic tryst system.
[00:10:38] The way glasses are designed it's used as a crutch. So there's there's things that you can do about that like working with behavioral optometrist or holistic uttama trees that can actually prescribe glasses to take out the stigmatism. It actually allows your eyes to move move, you know, if you don't use your muscles
[00:10:57] Carl Lanore: [00:10:57] while about I want to I want to speak to that for a second.
[00:10:59] So [00:11:00] as someone who wore eyeglasses early on in life and then went to contact lenses and never went back to eyeglasses. I can tell you how profoundly important that last statement is about eyeglasses lock your eyes into an unusual. On human or inhuman Groove. So right and I can only equate this to hunting because when I was very young this I discovered this immediately.
[00:11:28] So I wore eyeglasses till I was about 16 or 17 years old. I was an avid Hunter at the time and I realized that for the first time once I took my glasses off went to contact lenses, I could look to the left or right without turning my head. Now this may sound really like oh big deal. Now times that by a million things a day that you do you scan your desk.
[00:11:50] Your whole entire head has to scan your desk your eyes have to be locked into what is known as the optical Centre of those lenses the [00:12:00] optical Centre of those lenses. If you're not in the optical center, you are now picking up something called prism imbalance, which makes you feel like everything around you is wavy and moving so.
[00:12:11] In order to not have that happen the rectus muscles which lock the eye into like a geosynchronous orbit and keep them from moving have to be turned on equally in all directions all the time. So that when you turn your head your eyes don't move they have to stay with those Optical centers of your eyeglasses.
[00:12:34] This is what you're talking about people who wear eyeglasses undergo amazing. Unidentified eye strain that they learn and becomes habitual so they don't notice it anymore. But when they first put on glasses they notice it because they feel like she the floor is wavy all of a sudden that doesn't go away your eyes.
[00:12:53] Stop rotating in their Globe. They just stay locked onto the center. That's what you're talking about.
[00:13:00] [00:13:00] Victor Mifsud: [00:13:00] Pretty much again. All this stuff is unconscious and we don't really realize how much is going on with with the eyesight for them to actually work properly. Just because of the nature of our environment especially now we grew up in an indoor environment under junk lighting and the only thing that you have to see is probably like five ten feet in front of you, you know, you need to look at far Vistas for I exercise that's the other thing nobody's exercising their eyes.
[00:13:29] We were not taught to exercise or rise and like everyone goes to the gym to work out there, you know arms legs, whatever. Why were we not taught to exercise their eyes and and that that is a is a major harm in our
[00:13:46] Carl Lanore: [00:13:46] site and it's so easy to let to exercise your eyes. We used to call them pencil push-up we've talked about on the show probably seven or eight years ago, but you can use your finger, you know, so you just you take your finger you move it closer to your nose.
[00:13:59] You stay focused [00:14:00] on it and then you drop it and stare and you have to be outdoors you have to be able to stare at Infinity. And you do it again. This is a. And you'll feel your eyes literally have a hard time uncrossing and looking at Infinity. But the more you do it the faster that transition goes the faster that transition goes the more you're synchronizing the muscles to work properly the muscles that both focused the eye and rotate the eye but we used to call them pencil push-ups.
[00:14:25] You start out here you move as close as you can you look and then you look at infinity and you'll see the first couple times you do it. It takes a second to fill your eyes on Cross, but the more you do it they uncross. Run faster critical critical interesting point that you bring up.
[00:14:40] Victor Mifsud: [00:14:40] Yeah, and there's also the obvious one if you like look extreme left look extreme right look up look down, you know do that a couple of times also in natural light.
[00:14:55] I know we were talking about that a little bit before the show Junk light and [00:15:00] circadian biology is huge, right? You know natural light is so beneficial and junk light blue light is does the complete opposite it just trashes your vision. So, you know morning Sunrise is so important a lot of infrared Spectrum, but you know, this endure life existence is thrashing people's eyes not to mention, you know, the phones now and LED lighting which is like a death laser to the eye.
[00:15:33] And you know the flicker from fluorescent lighting. It's just the wrong spectrum is it's brutal. So
[00:15:40] Carl Lanore: [00:15:40] let's talk more about neuroplasticity now, we'll start getting into some of the stuff that really can benefit a lot of different people. So we're in for a long time. It was thought that the brain was static and there was a period of time throughout adolescence that it did all of its great formation, but pretty much after that it stopped and there's a lot of research out there that now shows that that's just not the case [00:16:00] right you and I met.
[00:16:02] Because you were listening to some of the peptide shows I've done recently and so there are some interesting peptides that you have been investigating that helped not only neuroplasticity, but may have profound effects on people that have macular degeneration because it may actually re-establish the macular region of the I talked a little bit about that.
[00:16:25] Victor Mifsud: [00:16:25] Okay, so. Right, and I said we see with our brains not with her eyes, right? So the Pioneer gland is like a master control for your whole healing body. I think in lizards if I'm not mistaken that there is a is a retina in their Pioneer gland. So the Epi talyn has been shown to improve I sites as well as a bunch of other things.
[00:16:56] And that's one peptide that I've been [00:17:00] working with at the moment. Just just pretty early and working with it.
[00:17:03] Carl Lanore: [00:17:03] How much are you using and what are you using it right before bed?
[00:17:08] Victor Mifsud: [00:17:08] Well, I first I got my first batch from from Ryan meta
[00:17:15] Carl Lanore: [00:17:15] television. Tailor-made Pharmacy in Nicholasville, Kentucky, if you're a doctor listening and you want to prescribe any of these peptides reach out to the international peptide Society become a member be trained and then you can prescribe these to your patients.
[00:17:29] I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[00:17:30] Victor Mifsud: [00:17:30] No, it's good thing to add. Basically I started off on a on a lower dose right now. I just finished the round by I'm not sure exactly what I was taking but I can put them in your notes a little later. But my next round of Epi towel on I'm going to do I'm going to do the higher dose 20 day cycle,
[00:17:55] Carl Lanore: [00:17:55] right?
[00:17:55] That's what's up. That's that's 10 milligrams a night for 20 days or 20 milligrams a night for 10 [00:18:00] days is the is the protocol that the Russian doctor came up with them quite a long time
[00:18:05] Victor Mifsud: [00:18:05] ago Professor Kevin, so and at the same time I was reading a lot about. peptides that there's a fellow that I've been working with for quite a while.
[00:18:16] He's quite amazing John Ledford Gregory's it just gonna in a major help in a major inspiration and my work. He's the one that turned me on to the peptides. There's a retinol peptide bio regulator that's was invented Again by Professor Kevin sun' that is showing some profound. I don't want to say full complete reversal, but I've heard people going from 90% vision loss to 30% vision loss improving I have issues with night night blindness and my condition also has basically what's the issue with my eyes.
[00:18:55] I have tunnel vision. So I have no peripheral vision. So they're shown to be [00:19:00] reverse reversal in both of those areas improve night vision and widening of the visual field. So this peptide is called Retin-A. M'lynn. It's not easy to get a hold of I know Taylor Made doesn't have this epic him
[00:19:18] Carl Lanore: [00:19:18] that I could make it because they have they have amino acid sequences so they can make any peptide they want the reality is
[00:19:24] Victor Mifsud: [00:19:24] right, and I'm sure I still think it there they might be having a bit of a time with it.
[00:19:30] So that's still in the process. I did end up ordering. It's online the retinol peptide from from Russia. I haven't started yet because I'm waiting for a few more peptides to start this this combination and there's a lot of really great data showing the benefits for again age molecular degeneration, which actually is a very similar profile to retinitis [00:20:00] Pigmentosa.
[00:20:00] Alright and. This is also shown Improvement in stargardt's which is another genetic Vision condition. And there's some great clinical trials that we're going on in greased. If you just Google retinitis Pigmentosa peptides, there's a stud study 10 minutes long showing the some data presentation that the guy who wrote the peptide Revolution book did so.
[00:20:31] So yeah, there's some really great data and I'm on the Virgin cusp of trying that these peptides. Like I said, I'm just building my protocol. I just started off with Epi towel on First and I'm going to do a higher dose of that.
[00:20:47] Carl Lanore: [00:20:47] I do I do I do five milligrams of every towel on a night for about two to three weeks at a time.
[00:20:53] It actually improves my quality of sleep, but then I cycle off the but I've been doing it for. The [00:21:00] past five months now and I notice big changes in my deep sleep in my REM sleep when I do use it, but I don't use it continuously.
[00:21:08] Victor Mifsud: [00:21:08] Yes, and I think that's the that's the data and that's what people tend to be doing who are doing the epital on Final End retinol peptide.
[00:21:21] Protocol, it's basically 10 or 20 days on and then you know like three to six months off and I think they showed the improvement over a two or three-year period of you know, there's some pretty great documentaries about it.
[00:21:38] Carl Lanore: [00:21:38] Now that the advancing thing about neural plasticity and I think you've probably discovered this too is that it works the best first of all neuroplasticity.
[00:21:49] Instigators will call them. Okay tend to have a lot of inertia. So but the trajectory will be [00:22:00] determined by your activities. But so like for instance micro dosing LSD, I found that if I microdose for a week or two. I don't notice anything but the three to four weeks I take off that's when I start to notice things.
[00:22:16] So I've discovered. And this also. I've extrapolated from conversations I had with dr. Timothy Leary back in the 80s when I was still living in Las Vegas and he spoke there at UNLV. Once it looks to me like things that stimulate neuroplasticity are best used intermittently. Because you turn on the Machinery, but then the Machinery goes so what exactly do you want me to build and your your your life and your actions will tell the Machinery.
[00:22:52] I need more of these neurons in these this area here because this is what I do a lot. Have you discovered that phenomenon?
[00:23:02] [00:23:00] Victor Mifsud: [00:23:02] Absolutely. Yeah, it's not. You know, like when you go to the gym you do your exercises the muscles don't come like right when you're doing the exercise the muscles come in rest and like a bit after I've seen a few of these documentaries online.
[00:23:22] There was another one about the cabinets in Ophthalmology Center that they have there and they talked to a few people they go do the treatments the peptide treatments. They see the results a couple of weeks afterwards. That's when they start seeing the improvements. So, you know. Have you
[00:23:43] Carl Lanore: [00:23:43] seen any have you seen any of the research on melatonin and retinitis Pigmentosa?
[00:23:48] Victor Mifsud: [00:23:48] melatonin like the suppli. Oh, yeah. I'm a little weary of supplementing with melatonin. I'd rather I come [00:24:00] from the field if you if you can make it don't take it. I used to take it actually and I tried so many different kinds and it kind of like made me feel pretty strange
[00:24:11] Carl Lanore: [00:24:11] your bedroom or maybe you're taking too high of a dose.
[00:24:13] But you know, there's so you've seen the research that shows that supplementing with melatonin stalls the progression of retinitis Pigmentosa and humans. You've seen that research right?
[00:24:24] Victor Mifsud: [00:24:24] I actually haven't no but I would say that I probably agree with you in that sense. Which is why I think at the Talon is great because it's actually going to improve your creation of melatonin, right obviously.
[00:24:38] So yeah, that's a completely would agree with that. To be honest with you. I've had sleep issues my whole life. I've been to like three or four different sleep labs and all these guys tell me. I don't know what's wrong with you take this take that, you know, but the Melatonin supplementation. Never really worked at that great for me and [00:25:00] I've you know tried everything from lupus all melatonin to you know, different Doses and I'd rather have my body created itself.
[00:25:08] So which essentially is what I'm doing now, and I learned a lot of sungazing practices. I stopped wearing sunglasses. I stopped wearing any type of glasses
[00:25:17] Carl Lanore: [00:25:17] there anything like anything that tells your suprachiasmatic nuclei that it's not daytime will impair. Nighttime habits, no doubt about it.
[00:25:26] You're right.
[00:25:26] Victor Mifsud: [00:25:26] I don't so that's you know blue light pulse the suppression of melatonin. So my sleep has radically improved over the past. You know to three months and I have been using Epi towel on I wear blue blockers at night. I don't. Look at any artificial blue light in the morning until I've caught the the natural sunlight in the morning.
[00:25:54] So these practice I mean I've heard that melatonin is actually created first thing in the morning to [00:26:00] save for later and if you screw it up by blasting your eyes with blue light, you just flush it down the toilet
[00:26:07] Carl Lanore: [00:26:07] very interesting. I didn't hear that. I think I'm going to so usually I get up and first thing in the morning I check email.
[00:26:13] I think what I'm going to do is we're gonna talk. Yeah, what are you? Yeah,
[00:26:18] Victor Mifsud: [00:26:18] Iris orange on your screen. And again your eyes need to see the light without any contact lenses so that. Natural light so that's why it's a bit easier for glasses to go on and off right and if you want to rise to change, they need to see natural light and I'd suggest working with a holistic optometrist that can actually maybe give you UV transmitting lenses to allow some more light in the eyes if you want to he's he's that into it night and I guarantee you'll see an improvement also highly recommend highly recommend reading this book.
[00:26:56] Dr. Jacob lieberman's take off your glasses and see key [00:27:00] because there is an emotional component to why people's eyes end up becoming blurry myopic nearsighted farsighted tunnel vision. It's all a lot of it is trauma-related as well because you're unconscious self doesn't want to see the trauma. So what does it do?
[00:27:22] Carl Lanore: [00:27:22] Changes it out. Yeah blows it out interesting. So tomorrow we're doing a show with dr. Betsy Earth. We're doing a pep talk tomorrow on peptides that resolve stroke CTE and traumatic brain injury and all of these peptides have some common ground they turn on bdnf. They part they turn on vascular endothelial growth factors and they turn on fibroblast growth growth factors in all of these things are the building blocks for either re collateralizing around damage or making new [00:28:00] inroads for new neuronal sprouting into the brain.
[00:28:04] So I'm sure that that will play a role in a kind of a dovetail of our discussion today about neuroplasticity talk about there was an interesting. Segment in your documentary where you are doing something that most people would poo poo. They call that so simple, what's the big deal but it's an exercise that will actually help some some some creative thinking and some what their term I'm looking for you you were looking at a clock and you had to be able to.
[00:28:37] Tell what time the clock says it was an old-fashioned clock not a digital clock. How did that affect you over time? You saw some dramatic changes from this very simple exercise.
[00:28:49] Victor Mifsud: [00:28:49] So that exercise was created by Barbara Aerosmith at the Aerosmith School its proprietary cognitive [00:29:00] exercise that you would need to do through that school, which the school is expanding all around the world.
[00:29:06] At the moment Barbara Aerosmith is a fascinating woman. She's like this woman who changed her brain. She's in my documentary. She creates she herself had so many learning disabilities. She ended up creating these exercises based on the work of Alexander. Luria who is a Russian neuroscientist. I think so basically these clock exercises.
[00:29:36] Show your they allow your. it's like time and space. It allows your brain to kind of like how do I explain this to to get a better understanding of your relationships with time space and you and the world? So just by doing this repeated action of looking at these clock hands that [00:30:00] appear, you know, whatever see this clock and 753.
[00:30:03] So you type it in 753 then another time comes up and you have to quickly respond to it saying what time it is and over and over you you do these exercises and it as you advance. They start adding another hand to the clock then you know
[00:30:19] Carl Lanore: [00:30:19] how the second hand? Yeah, because I guess the purpose of the exercise was to improve abstract thinking if I remember correctly, right?
[00:30:27] Yes.
[00:30:27] Victor Mifsud: [00:30:27] Yes.
[00:30:28] Carl Lanore: [00:30:28] And so what can I do? What changes did you see? So first of all your ability to respond improved you got quicker, but what did you see as an after effect in your day-to-day life from doing that very simple exercise
[00:30:42] Victor Mifsud: [00:30:42] well, I had a few diagnosed learning difficulties. I was always horrible at school and in my relationships with people communication with people just general understanding of the world around me.
[00:30:56] Do you fail
[00:30:56] Carl Lanore: [00:30:56] you think that you would have been on the Spectrum had you been born today?
[00:31:00] [00:31:02] Victor Mifsud: [00:31:02] You know
[00:31:03] Carl Lanore: [00:31:03] Asperger's autistic Tendencies. Do you think that if you had been born today and you were young child 7 8 years old now? Someone would have said oh, he's on the Spectrum.
[00:31:16] Victor Mifsud: [00:31:16] Probably I mean a TD is apparently on the Spectrum. I was diagnosed with ADD. Okay. So there
[00:31:20] Carl Lanore: [00:31:20] you go. So did the so parents who are listening to this show need to really pay attention. That's my that's what I was getting at, you know, because a lot of kids out there they're going on. Oh, you know, he's got learning disability.
[00:31:29] He's on the Spectrum. It's like well, wait a minute, you know, if you said your child has weak legs. They would say back in the old days. They would have put braces on his legs. Like they did to Forrest Gump but
[00:31:40] Victor Mifsud: [00:31:40] Ricky there.
[00:31:41] Carl Lanore: [00:31:41] Yeah, but the reality is that if you today if they say, oh your child has weak legs.
[00:31:45] They go. Okay, we're going to give him supplements and we need him to start going to physical therapy to make them stronger but there's some sort of stigma if your child has a weak brain. They go. Oh your child has a weak brain. They're messed up forget about it. We can do nothing for them. But put them on a bunch of psychotropic drugs when the [00:32:00] reality is there are things you can do to make their brain strong.
[00:32:04] Victor Mifsud: [00:32:04] I mean it is so common sense. If you break her arm, you put a cast on your arm will heal the same thing with the eyes and same thing with the brain. So I don't know why we just wrote that off saying oh your eyes are messed up. You're going to have to wear glasses for the rest of your life. Your brain is messed up just deal with it and a lot of these in schools.
[00:32:23] Did you just do compensation methods? So they say oh your brain works this way. We'll just give you more time as opposed to getting to the root cause. And these exercises especially at this school are are not if you look at some of them they look like they're from another world,
[00:32:40] Carl Lanore: [00:32:40] but most people would say, how is that going to benefit anybody?
[00:32:44] And when I started to think about I was like, oh my God, these are the rudimentary tasks that the brain has to learn to build on. Yeah and and children don't get those so they can't they have nothing no Foundation to build on and I'm fact I would say to any person out there. [00:33:00] Who has a child that's been diagnosed with Asperger's or told that their child is on the spectrum of ADHD or add to look up the Aerosmith school and find out how you can work with them maybe from a distance because when I looked at some of the stuff that they're doing over there after I walked your documentary I Googled it.
[00:33:19] I thought you know, I don't understand remember brain issues. Have been stigmatized as the beginning of time today all the autistic children. They would have said oh they have demons we have to burn them think about that. So there's been something in in history history of human evolution that as soon as somebody's brain doesn't work.
[00:33:43] Exactly like the rest of us we go. Oh ho ho. Oh something's wrong. We gotta get rid of this person real quick. No, we just have to work with them to get them to straight that stuff out.
[00:33:54] Victor Mifsud: [00:33:54] I know it's. I don't know why it's taking this long, you know and when I [00:34:00] was reading. basically her story and dr.
[00:34:04] Norman doidge his book the brain that changes itself didn't he chapter 2 is all about Barbara Aerosmith. I never cried during a book. I was crying saying. Oh my God, this is me. And I thought my whole life my brain was just stuck like that for the rest of my life and I was going to be stupid for the rest of my life.
[00:34:21] So seeing this. Potential was just like holy I need to go to this school.
[00:34:30] Carl Lanore: [00:34:30] Right
[00:34:30] Victor Mifsud: [00:34:30] and it wasn't I went as an adult. I went to 32
[00:34:34] Carl Lanore: [00:34:34] and you and you went being a person who had difficulty in school. So now you're an adult and you already know that school sucks as far as your perspective goes yet you were willing to put yourself into that because you knew.
[00:34:48] That if I could change my brain if I you know, the device that I'm having trouble with learning is my brain if I can change my brain, then there's nothing that can stop me.
[00:34:58] Victor Mifsud: [00:34:58] The thing that
[00:34:58] Carl Lanore: [00:34:58] affected it
[00:34:59] Victor Mifsud: [00:34:59] wasn't even [00:35:00] about school for me. It was not about school. It was about my relationships with people
[00:35:06] Carl Lanore: [00:35:06] how I
[00:35:07] Victor Mifsud: [00:35:07] how I just felt so misunderstood by everybody.
[00:35:12] It might my ex-girlfriend at the time. I just and and I saw that. This all has to do with how I interacted with people and how this this understanding and how I fit into the world. So that was one of the biggest changes, you know, where it helped open me up and a lot of people are commenting now.
[00:35:33] I'm so articulate and it's kind of laughs like me. I'm never thought that I was right. So if I can attribute to all these changes to. To exercising this spectrum of my brain because she's isolated 19 different learning difficulties that potentially certain people can have it's done to this, you know, testing and then there's various exercises that Target these [00:36:00] certain parts of the brain.
[00:36:01] So there's a lot kind of going on and the majority of people again have these learning difficulties. Just because of the way you know, we brought up trauma environment Etc. So, you know if these are implemented early on in grade school, like just think of how many amazing functionalities people can be having just, you know, being there, you know running on all four tires because again, everyone's running around with one flat tire or two.
[00:36:36] Carl Lanore: [00:36:36] Right, I agree. So I want to take a break when we come back. I want to talk about something that I have been a big fan of for the past 14 years that I've had this show and I've slept with a pulsed electromagnetic field device for the past 14 years and I alter its frequency and it's Gauss and I do some fun things with it, but I want to talk about what you discovered about EMF and I want to also talk about the reuleaux effect because [00:37:00] I discovered the reuleaux effect five four or five years ago.
[00:37:04] I'm part of a think tank at Quest Nutrition and we had a dark field microscope and we had blood samples of people and we were amazed at how many people were suffering from the reuleaux effect, which is this clumping of red blood cells. I want to talk about that too because that's a really interesting area of science.
[00:37:25] That seems to be looked at like Voodoo energy science. But if there's a lot of evidence that there's something to it, especially when we consider the the RF soup that we live in today with routers and cell phones and every other godforsaken thing that's transmitting today that we just can't see but ourselves can feel it.
[00:37:46] So let's take a quick commercial break. If you want to reach out to Victor. You can go to my neuroplastic adventure.com and we will in the show notes. I will have links to reach out to Victor, but also. [00:38:00] To watch his documentary. I would challenge anybody not to watch this documentary and come away feeling like I just spent some of the most valuable 70 minutes of my life that's going to change this aspect or that aspect of my life.
[00:38:15] I'm telling you. It's a great documentary stay tuned. I'm sorry.
[00:38:19] Victor Mifsud: [00:38:19] I just going to one quickly add something to what you said just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. Oh, yeah,
[00:38:24] Carl Lanore: [00:38:24] we're gonna talk about we just did a show about cilia on sales reacting to cellular telephones. If you're going to love this this it stay tuned.
[00:38:30] We'll be right back.
[00:38:31] Victor Mifsud: [00:38:31] Alright,
[00:38:33] Carl Lanore: [00:38:33] welcome back were talking with Victor Misfit. It's mif SUV, right am ins Misfit. I got it, right. I got it. Okay,
[00:38:42] Victor Mifsud: [00:38:42] next up a my f yeah. It's a
[00:38:45] Carl Lanore: [00:38:45] drink. I almost reverse it. So. You did an interesting discussion with a doctor whose last name I think was like Havis
[00:38:54] Victor Mifsud: [00:38:54] imagine mag.
[00:38:55] Yeah,
[00:38:56] Carl Lanore: [00:38:56] and and she actually took [00:39:00] a sample of your blood and put it on there a dark field microscope and you saw
[00:39:05] Victor Mifsud: [00:39:05] live blood analysis. Yeah,
[00:39:07] Carl Lanore: [00:39:07] and we did this actually in California about four years ago with someone else's blood and the reuleaux effect is when your red blood cells literally stack up like coins.
[00:39:17] So you have less surface area for oxygen carrying and they also increase the viscosity of blood which means that they have a harder time getting into small blood vessels and stuff like that and what we discovered at that day. Was that grounding? Within within like 30 minutes of being grounded for, you know being grounded for 30 minutes that reverse the reuleaux effect in this particular subjects blood.
[00:39:45] But what you guys did was you got involved in a pulsed electromagnetic field bed where you were in with red light at the same time and that also caused a reversal of the reuleaux affect talk about that a little bit.
[00:40:00] [00:40:02] Victor Mifsud: [00:40:02] Excuse me. Sure. Yeah, so I'm quite EMF sensitive Electro sensitive or some people are now calling it. Microwave sickness. We are living in a soup of non-native DMS from Wi-Fi routers your cell phone cell towers smart meters and they're all giving off this these invisible harmful EMS how
[00:40:33] Carl Lanore: [00:40:33] computers are computers are giving off a non-native EMF right now.
[00:40:38] They're the power supplies up a good. I'm sorry.
[00:40:40] Victor Mifsud: [00:40:40] Yeah. All that stuff. I mean in this is only been introduced in the past, you know, twenty twenty years and it's getting worse
[00:40:48] Carl Lanore: [00:40:48] right
[00:40:48] Victor Mifsud: [00:40:48] now. They want to introduce 5G in some cities already have implemented and that's just a whole of the story of
[00:40:55] Carl Lanore: [00:40:55] I've Gene between 10 and 13 gigahertz.
[00:40:58] It will actually start to stimulate 2 [00:41:00] nanometer cilia on the cell surface, and we're going to see a host of new. Diseases and mass in the population of people going to go chat on this that we just did a show. With Chad Jared actually. Yeah, Chad Jared and we talked about a study that showed that cilia on cell are picking up signals not native to the body and causing the outbreak of mitral valve prolapse.
[00:41:30] We see today in the population. Think about that. And people way to keep them. Where do you see especially older men? They all have arrhythmias. They all have mitral valve issues. They all have mitral valve. I mean, what's the other thing that that arrhythmia? But but anyway, what's that heart attack?
[00:41:50] Victor Mifsud: [00:41:50] She's heart attack, but
[00:41:51] Carl Lanore: [00:41:51] they have that they have that PVC for prevention acrylic contraction phenomena. They all keep their cell phones in their top pocket over there over there heart.
[00:42:00] [00:42:01] Victor Mifsud: [00:42:01] Such a disaster. Yeah, and you the thing is people are so oblivious to its because you can't see it. You can't feel it right away.
[00:42:13] So people think oh, it's not harming me when I talk with the phone against like it's doing some serious damage. It's not going to burn you like touching a fire right away. That's why it's Sneaky. But the thing is everyone's blood is all coagulated. For stuck together in this rouleaux formation because of this EMF soup that we're in everyone's wearing rubber shoes.
[00:42:35] And if you're living in a city how often are people just walking around Barefoot this whole hug a tree thing that the hippies used to talk about that. You're actually grounding yourself. When you when you touch a tree and your dispersing this charge our ancestors were walking barefoot or with leather leather
[00:42:51] Carl Lanore: [00:42:51] leather.
[00:42:51] I right leather
[00:42:52] Victor Mifsud: [00:42:52] gloves ground, but rubber doesn't. So
[00:42:57] Carl Lanore: [00:42:57] I do know you're a you're a DJ by trade there was [00:43:00] something else that I thought about that you may not be aware of but there was a study that came out about 8 years ago when maybe it was ten, you know, it was longer than I was probably 12 years ago a study came out when all the subwoofers was so popular.
[00:43:15] That that that's that's 60 hertz down 224 hurts actually causes blood to spontaneously coagulate and when you think about we think about sand on a metal dish and you have subwoofers going how it's it forms these shapes and forms shapes, right your blood does the same thing when it's when it hits get when the subwoofers hit your body interesting.
[00:43:42] Victor Mifsud: [00:43:42] yeah, there's a there's a. The Facebook will sorry the YouTube video Whatever of this want this showing this water dripping down and then they put this signal next to it. Then the water starts like flowing down the zigzag formation. So it's. [00:44:00] It's all sound and frequency. Now, we're living in the soup.
[00:44:03] It's messing everybody up and know when I talk to people about it. They look at me like them.
[00:44:08] Carl Lanore: [00:44:08] Yes. What? Where's your aluminum hat, right? Where's your know you dude? I know because I spent the beginning of my career in radio frequency and radio land mobile radio cellular and paging I've seen what RF can do two things.
[00:44:21] I've seen RF back in the day when Michael MCI are signal was the long-distance. They had microwave 1.4 and 2.4 gigahertz dishes pointing from City to City on top of mountain tops and. there would whatever you went up there because we had we had mobile telephone transmitters up on those mountaintops.
[00:44:46] They would be dead birds all around the bottom of those. Those dishes because they would they would land on the arm that held the transmitter. So the transmitter transmits into the parabolic dish in the parabolic dish shoots a beam a [00:45:00] hundred miles away. Well when the birds would land on that arm.
[00:45:04] They'd be right in the path of the transmitter. It would cook them from the inside out in a couple minutes. They just fall dead. They won't even know they be sitting there like this and then you just fall down dead. So MC, I was contacted by some division of the federal government in the United States.
[00:45:20] The Bureau of Land Management said look, you have to put something on those dishes. So these birds don't land in the focal. And that's what it's going to put those big fiberglass shrouds on them that look like that look like fun of like funnels. So the birds couldn't land on the are many more and get cooked.
[00:45:41] Victor Mifsud: [00:45:41] Wow. Well, there's a story that you know people in the military in World War Two if they were, you know, like going into town after after base and they didn't want to impregnate a girl they stand and they put their junk in front of a radar. They [00:46:00] exactor their junks of they become sterile.
[00:46:03] Carl Lanore: [00:46:03] That's what's happened
[00:46:04] Victor Mifsud: [00:46:04] here.
[00:46:05] When you put your quote-unquote laptop on your junk for males and females you're doing the same thing at least men. They create sperm every three months or something, but women you have all the eggs with you at the since you're born and you are trashing those eggs and don't put your phone in your pocket.
[00:46:23] Don't put your put your phone in your bra. I mean
[00:46:27] Carl Lanore: [00:46:27] crazy.
[00:46:27] Victor Mifsud: [00:46:27] Basically, I know it's nuts and everyone so addicted to the technology is handy. I mean, I love my phone too, but we need to practice safe Tack and we need to show this awareness and there's some great documentary films about this generation Zapped is a good one beings of frequency is another really good one that they can watch about the whole EMF situation, you know, there's a lot of people talking about 5G and there's a major major push to roll this out fast.
[00:46:55] And I'm sorry it is a disaster.
[00:46:58] Carl Lanore: [00:46:58] If not, it's going to be [00:47:00] so talk about the EMF. What did you notice after you got well, first of all, do you know what the frequency was of the pmf system you used? Was it like nine point six Hertz for hurts. Do you know anything what it was?
[00:47:13] Victor Mifsud: [00:47:13] I'm not sure the technical it's it was a sequence machine made in Italy.
[00:47:18] Apparently, there's like 6 in Canada. It's kind of an expensive pmf system. I've actually been experimenting with something called the Blue Shield device which runs on scalar technology which is not EMF. So EMF does have scalar but. It's like an information code but the Blue Shield device was invented by this this fella really interesting stuff that ends up giving this scale are information to kind of override the the EMF that were bombarded with so there's a portable device and there's a unit you can get for your home which lasts like a Schumann resonance [00:48:00] Fibonacci and a whole bunch of other codes that kind of give you this.
[00:48:05] Your body ends up in training to this then the EMF that you're surrounded with right? I mean I want to look into it. It's I've been experimenting with it and they've shown animal studies of you know, this device in chicken coops and the chickens created more eggs with thicker shells same thing with cows by producing more more milk because a lot of cows stand on on the ground where there's like a ground.
[00:48:31] And still they were hooking up these devices with that and they were showing like lower antibodies and milk. So I mean, you know animals don't really run on Placebo. So these tests are we're pretty interesting. So I'm experimenting with the right now. I have no affiliation with them. It's just something that I'm you know looking at
[00:48:47] Carl Lanore: [00:48:47] a come.
[00:48:47] Is it a company here in the United States? Because I had a guy on recently who actually did a lot of the original research on pmf for NASA and. I'm looking right now [00:49:00] to see if I can find his link. I sent it to somebody. Dr. Robert Dennis. Is it? Dr. Robert Dennis?
[00:49:06] Victor Mifsud: [00:49:06] No, no. No this this device is not an EMF device, but it isn't scale our device.
[00:49:15] Carl Lanore: [00:49:15] We have I have a I have a product that's made by a company called Earth pole to. And we actually have a fifty dollar off coupon code. If somebody goes to Superman radio dotnet and you look for the banner ad for Earth pulse. But Earth poles has been the leader in this segment for like 25 years now and they have a very reasonably priced one and it goes up to like 22 Gauss.
[00:49:38] It's like you got but it's strong, but it's not as if there's some new units coming out now that I like a hundred fifty gallons. You can actually feel the tissue in your body being tugged. I don't know that that's really a good idea. But the Schumann resonance resonance as you point out is the native as we were talking about before the non-native RF and EMF.
[00:50:00] [00:49:59] The native EMF is the Schumann resonance and it goes anywhere from 60 to hurts down to a half a Hertz depending on the region of the world you're on but the average is 7.62 hurts in most of the globe and that's what I use. To sleep with on on my Earth post unit at night because I tried I want to try to recreate that environment that we evolved under
[00:50:26] Victor Mifsud: [00:50:26] there's a magnetically Sleep Pad which is pretty popular as well.
[00:50:30] It's a mattress pad that's like has steady magnets pretty expensive little mattress pad, but you know, I've heard a lot of major benefit from that thing to you know, but we have. Unfortunately, we need to do these things to to help combat this toxic environment that we're living in not to mention you'll heavy metals.
[00:50:57] Think about that. If you're if you have emails in your [00:51:00] system from you know, she's drinking bad water lead Mercury from fillings letting the air from gasoline, you know, what happens when you put a fork in the microwave, so it has metal in your system and your an increase microwave field. You're gonna you're gonna fry
[00:51:17] Carl Lanore: [00:51:17] yourself absolutely
[00:51:19] Victor Mifsud: [00:51:19] like
[00:51:20] Carl Lanore: [00:51:20] the absolutely so tell me so so so a lot of the techniques that you've learned about a lot of the techniques that you've employed what have you noticed and what have you noticed in your vision both of those things.
[00:51:33] So what have you noticed cognitively, but what have you also noticed with your vision?
[00:51:40] Victor Mifsud: [00:51:40] Wow, well what I've noticed. With my vision I was actually doing a lot of exercises. I actually used to wear glasses and with doing a lot of these eye exercises. I actually decrease my prescription by 33% Unfortunately, I did get cataracts so they have to replace the lens so they ended up fixing my [00:52:00] prescription as well.
[00:52:00] But before that I've reduced my prescription 33% as far as my condition with the retinitis Pigmentosa. It does fluctuate. So there's good ideas and bad ideas. I've had far less bad IDs. I stopped wearing sunglasses. I stopped wearing glasses to begin with again. I'm protecting my eyes with blue blocking glasses.
[00:52:24] I need to get a new pair of day pairs as well. But that's kind of brought me to the next level of my healing with. You know peptides and stem cells because everyone's talking about how stem cells can reverse retinitis Pigmentosa but peptides essentially my theory is that their precursors to stem cells.
[00:52:47] So, I mean, I'm on the verge of you know, making another documentary with peptides and and my journey with them. So I'm looking at getting some guidance from the top players in the peptide World, which I've [00:53:00] been talking with and I really want to. Go down this path and take give the peptides a good shot for my eyes and you know to sort of caveat this conversation.
[00:53:17] A lot of people end up focusing on one thing or the other. What I mean by that is a lot of you know, the spiritual communities the going to go within and heal my trauma and yes, that's so super important. But I find people usually just focus on that
[00:53:34] Carl Lanore: [00:53:34] and I bought
[00:53:35] Victor Mifsud: [00:53:35] me they just eat like shit whatever and then there's the other hand where you know, the biohackers were all.
[00:53:42] I need to wear the blue blockers. I got to do this and you know, I need to like eat all this and take a million supplements and they forget to do this inner emotional work. So it's not this or that it's this and that and it's an important balance of your inner world and your outer world. You need to maximize your space suit your body.
[00:54:00] [00:54:00] And you need to balance this this inner world and the trauma because we hope there's things like ancestral trauma that can have a radical effect on your DNA that you and I were talking about again before the show that you know, there's a really interesting book called. It didn't start with you by Mark will hold and talks about ancestral trauma and how we carry this and how it you know, epigenetics the epigenetic factor, so it's.
[00:54:25] All of this work this inner world and outer
[00:54:27] Carl Lanore: [00:54:27] what I want to stay with that for a second because I think a lot of people think that this is Fufu, right? So I've done shows that show exposure to certain chemicals create a transgenerational epigenetic imprint in both germ cells of semen or sperm as well as OV over themselves of eggs.
[00:54:51] And we all agree on that right? So we all could say. Oh, yeah DDT actually the damaging effects of DDT that [00:55:00] happened to your great-grandfather and your great-grandmother are still acting on us today three generations later. They've checked we know this we know it people are up in arms about it.
[00:55:09] They're like Chan transgenerational epigenetic inheritance has we know what happens we can see it. We can see it in science. Well, But some reason people have a hard time with something that seems a little more esoteric and abstract and that is that the stresses that your relatives underwent.
[00:55:32] Create an almost original sin imprint on their genetics that you inherit as well. And for some reason people feel like now that's you know, that's just to food, but but wait a minute. I can point to very specific evidence of this so. populations that underwent great periods of famine Russia Ireland I'm talking about famine that actually wiped out [00:56:00] 1/3 of the population where people Resort addicted to in the Russian famine the this the second the first one or the second one people actually eating and selling.
[00:56:12] Dead body parts of people who died and froze because they were in the coldest areas of Russia, so they didn't go bad. They were actually selling to other people who are buying body parts to eat because that was it it was either eat that or die. We know that these populations have two interesting attributes and that is severe.
[00:56:41] Depression. Okay, and severe alcoholism, which goes hand-in-hand with depression, especially the males in the population. So, you know, we all can agree that that horrible stress of having to make a decision to eat. Another human being [00:57:00] just to stay alive has an effect on you, but it has an effect on your offspring.
[00:57:06] So this idea that oh, you know, I buy the whole chemical influence on epigenetic effects, but I don't buy the the the difficulty that my great-great grandfather went through. It's not affecting me now. Oh, no,
[00:57:18] Victor Mifsud: [00:57:18] you name an
[00:57:19] Carl Lanore: [00:57:19] oh, no, it did imprinted your DNA it change your DNA.
[00:57:24] Victor Mifsud: [00:57:24] Yeah. It's
[00:57:25] Carl Lanore: [00:57:25] not
[00:57:25] Victor Mifsud: [00:57:25] like
[00:57:25] Carl Lanore: [00:57:25] it's not like his spirit is haunting you because that's what people get lost on this Victor.
[00:57:31] They think oh, yeah. Now you're saying on my grandfather's Spirit. No. No, it's not your spirit his DNA changed and it changed your father's DNA and your father's DNA change yours and you'll get a change your sons.
[00:57:46] Victor Mifsud: [00:57:46] And it's up to us and you now in this lifetime if you want that cycle to stop too.
[00:57:54] So you don't hand it on to your kids to break the cycle finish by by [00:58:00] doing this work, you know the emotional work the epigenetic work the you know, the the health work the supplements the you know, and I think the peptides can actually some really amazing data that can help reverse these damaging effects with these signaling molecules.
[00:58:18] So they had some nice tool in our toolkit that that's coming down the line.
[00:58:23] Carl Lanore: [00:58:23] Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm a huge fan. I've been a huge fan of peptides for you know close to 20 years. Now my first, you know a peptide that influence me was growth hormone. I mean, let's not forget that growth hormone is a peptide and then as they became more abstract.
[00:58:40] Ghr P6 e JC 1295. I IG F1 long are three. I mean I was experimenting with those when they first came out and so.
[00:58:51] Victor Mifsud: [00:58:51] I haven't ventured there yet, but it's something that I would like to to venture into experimenting with some growth hormone as well. So
[00:58:58] Carl Lanore: [00:58:58] I tell you why. [00:59:00] I'm not a believer in growth hormone anymore.
[00:59:01] I think that using things like GH rp6 test morale and CJC 1295 with the drug Affinity complex that makes it last longer. I think that these are more sensible approaches to elevating growth hormone because the growth hormone that we use commercially. Is one type of growth hormone hundred ninety one amino acid growth hormone, but your pituitary produces about a dozen different types of growth hormone and two of them are biologically active.
[00:59:32] We only focus on one of them in the medical community. So when you get your pituitary to create more of its own growth hormone kind of like your theory on melatonin when you get the pituitary to create its own growth hormone, you get a lot more out of it. Then if you're just taking regular growth hormone the commercially available growth hormone and my opinion.
[00:59:53] Victor Mifsud: [00:59:53] Yeah, I agree. I mean I'm if you if you can get your body make it itself it's more optimal. [01:00:00] So
[01:00:01] Carl Lanore: [01:00:01] I want to take our last commercial break when we come back. We'll wrap up the interview. I want people to find this link in the show notes and go and watch this documentary because. It's so compelling and the last thing I want to wrap up with when we come back is to talk about psychedelics things like Ayahuasca.
[01:00:21] I know that you did that at the end of the documentary on talk about that effect as well. Okay, stay tuned. We'll be right back. Welcome back.
[01:00:35] So before we went to the break, I kind of alluded to. What I want them to talk about because you are. We've talked about the effects of psychedelics on neuroplasticity offline and the good doctor that you went to visit at the University of British. Columbia had said, you know, there are no [01:01:00] drugs that that improve neuroplasticity.
[01:01:03] And why and we could partially why she said that and maybe she just doesn't know is unaware but some things that improve neuroplasticity without without any argument are peptides. But another thing that seems to is psychedelics, especially LSD and peyote and and mushrooms and stuff like that and so obviously in your journey.
[01:01:29] I'm sure you stumbled on this information thought okay, you know I need to learn more about this and the and the go to approach nowadays is to to have a shaman or a guide take you on Alaska journey. And so you did that. Were you afraid how'd you ever well first of all, have you ever treated you ever trip when you were a kid?
[01:01:54] Victor Mifsud: [01:01:54] I experimented, you know recreationally as they call it the with with mushrooms [01:02:00] when I was younger, you know, like 20 around there. I just thought it was fun. I had no idea what you know fun in some ways and sometimes gets a little weird. But yeah, I mean I had no idea until you know, I started reading the benefits on psychedelics and Trauma and.
[01:02:21] You know and then when I came across the work of dr. Gabor mate, he's a national best-selling author writes a lot about trauma. He's in my film to he's big mentor of mine. He was working with these substances in a shamanic setting in a you know, a safe setting. Yeah. I was completely scared of you know, when I when I had my wake-up moment around 2011 2012 when like I need, you know, I actually discovered.
[01:02:51] You know those bits of information at the same time, you know, like deutsche's book about neuroplasticity and and about [01:03:00] the psychedelics with trauma and whatnot at the same time. So it was a pretty interesting, you know occurrence and that sense and I thought that I needed something to take me out of my mind
[01:03:14] Carl Lanore: [01:03:14] more.
[01:03:15] So out of yeah out of your mind and body to it's something to actually kind. Put you in the zone if the like yeah better terms, right? Yeah.
[01:03:25] Victor Mifsud: [01:03:25] Yeah. So it's I almost you know saw it like as a defibrillator needing this like something
[01:03:33] Carl Lanore: [01:03:33] reset ya reboot that hey
[01:03:36] Victor Mifsud: [01:03:36] wait and you know, so that was the first time I actually ended up going to Peru first and working with somebody there which.
[01:03:48] Was not the best thing because he was an abusive Shaman and it's a long story but he's not with us anymore. Thank God, but then I ended up getting contact [01:04:00] contacted Gabor mate and ended up working with him. And you know, since then I learned a lot more about you know, psychedelic healing and what Maps is doing Maps is the multidisciplinary association for psychedelic studies and all the research that room with like MDMA and psilocybin to basically help.
[01:04:17] No depression anxiety Etc. And you know these substances psilocybin is shown to actually increase the birth of new neurons neurogenesis.
[01:04:30] Carl Lanore: [01:04:30] Well, it's actually so here's an interesting discussion.
[01:04:36] So in 1987, I attended a talk. Put on by dr. Timothy Leary at UNLV. I was living in Las Vegas at the time and it was around November December. It was very cold in Las Vegas. People don't think it gets cold in the desert, but it does. And it was a rainy night. It was middle of the [01:05:00] week. I showed up to the Artemis ham Hall and it was there was only about 25 people that actually showed up to hear this this pioneer.
[01:05:11] Talk and so we were all able to move all the way to the front of this of the of the, you know, right up in front of the stage and we listen to him talk. Halfway through the talk. He comes down off the stage and he just leans against the stage and he talks to us and then he opened it up to questions and I had tripped a.
[01:05:31] In the 70s as a kid, I mean a lot. I mean a lot of people say they tripped a lot. But now I really like they were weeks where I tripped every day and just didn't go to school. So we talked about some of my experiences and he said to me then that they believe that LSD allows right here Hemisphere and left hemisphere to communicate directly.
[01:06:00] [01:06:00] And bypass the Clearinghouse that manages right Hemisphere and left hemisphere hemisphere communication called corpus callosum, right? He said that taking LSD probably is will eventually create a situation where your brain ability to think abstractly goes beyond the traditional. Human brain's capacity because you can actually have parts of the brain that deal with speech connect with parts of the brain that deal with color and you could actually have original thoughts that have never been thought about before and this could lead through to breakthroughs in technology and so on and so on and so on.
[01:06:45] Okay, so he told me that back in like 87 now fast forward to. 2014 I was out of question nutrition again for the project and I got to sit in on one of Tom Bill use [01:07:00] episodes of inside Quest where Jamie wheel. I think his name is spoke
[01:07:05] Victor Mifsud: [01:07:05] land floats. Yeah,
[01:07:06] Carl Lanore: [01:07:06] and so at the end of the interview Tom was like Carl.
[01:07:10] I want you to meet this guy. So I'm talking with. And I tell him this exact story and he goes when was this I said 287. I think it was 1987. I'm pretty sure was 87 because I moved out in 89. So it was either 8687. He's like they just proved that that's what actually happens last year. Wow. He said in 2013.
[01:07:36] There was a study published that shows that. Chronic use of LSD causes right hemisphere left hemisphere to directly communicate and bypass the corpus callosum and I said to him so I guess all the acid that Timothy Leary did allowed him to think abstractly enough and connect dots enough to actually realize that back in 87.
[01:07:56] He said, yeah, absolutely so
[01:08:00] [01:08:00] Victor Mifsud: [01:08:00] many revolutions The Beatles used it Alan Watts used it Steve Jobs used it and you know, It's has some great potential. I'm
[01:08:12] Carl Lanore: [01:08:12] not I'm not convinced. That micro dosing is the way to go. However. I'm really not so the way the what we you and I to come full circle of something we talked about earlier, which is like you put the Machinery in gear.
[01:08:28] and then you you let your daily things direct where it grows these neurons and so. I think that while micro dosing May improve conditions like like depression and anxiety, I think. That to have the real bursts in creative thinking and original thought and the type of changes in the brain [01:09:00] that that that take abstract thinking to a completely different level.
[01:09:04] You have to do a full-on trip. You have to do you know 250 500 micrograms full on trip where you trip for a day and a half or so and then not do any acid for a few months. But because what that will do in my humble opinion in the way, I look at it is that will assemble the machine, but then the machines Direction.
[01:09:30] And how it grows those neurons will be dictated by what you do on a day-in and day-out basis. How you think what you think about what you dedicate your thought process to it's like oh, so this guy wants to figure this out. Let's grow that brain in that area there. I really think that that's the right way and I predict that in a decade when we know right now.
[01:09:49] Michael dosing is like, okay, we're going to agree that we can stick our toe in this. And and will be cool with the medical community, but we're not suggesting people full-on trip. No, we're not doing [01:10:00] that that's reckless. And I think what's going to happen in the decade they're going to go Michael dosing was okay, but when you full-on trip, that's when magic really happens in the brain, but they have to get their gradually in my opinion.
[01:10:11] That's my bet.
[01:10:13] Victor Mifsud: [01:10:13] I agree with you a hundred percent. I mean, I'm not advocating any 1222 triplet mean tripping in the city is
[01:10:20] Carl Lanore: [01:10:20] danger one of
[01:10:21] Victor Mifsud: [01:10:21] the places to do it. Yeah, you almost need you almost need like a sanctioned to place to quote-unquote, you know lose your mind because when you're tripping, sometimes it's not pleasant and it doesn't look Pleasant, you know to other people but you know some going to the bathroom doesn't look Pleasant for a lot of people but it's in a certain experience that we need to have to for some stuff to come out right to use that algae.
[01:10:46] But, you know some some things in life aren't pretty but they have tremendous benefits. You know and again there's that I had that with with with psilocybin, you know, I was in nature. I was at my [01:11:00] Cottage and I did a pretty big dose and you know, I got a major download. I don't know at the time.
[01:11:08] You're just stuff happens. You don't know what it really means, but it's not the point then it's what happens after and to sort of you know, Same with what you said in terms of like how the trip it's not about Vee trip. It's about almost like the post trip and and how it D fragments the brain and then, you know, eventually it kind of comes back and works a lot hell of a lot more efficiently like
[01:11:35] Carl Lanore: [01:11:35] you might think I think I think it's harder to do that as an adult like I think about it now like when I was a young man in college and or even in high school, I mean I tripped all the way I did acid in college as well.
[01:11:48] Um, you know, I didn't have a lot to worry about I mean, you know get a dollar fifty is worth of gas in my motorcycle not failing a test, but I wasn't really like I didn't care that much anyway, you [01:12:00] know hanging out with my friends life life was uncluttered. You didn't have a lot of responsibility.
[01:12:05] You didn't have looming decisions that had that we're going to have life-altering impact. I think tripping today for me. If I was ever going to trip again, like I would have to literally spend a good eight months of my life getting everything like organized and I gotta because because you don't want to trip.
[01:12:27] And have this one thing that you've been worried about in the back of your mind because it will be the thing that will come to the front and you'll obsess about it and you'll have a horrible trip. You also don't ever want to trip with anybody who? Is it be mildly argumentative with you? Like, you know, you have friends that you love because they challenge you that's not the person to trip with the person you want to trip with is somebody who like, you know, I've never had an argument with that person.
[01:12:55] They're like so easy to get along with they are like just like [01:13:00] they're there for you, but they're just not there. Like that's who you want to trip with. You don't want to trip with somebody who give you crap about anything. Because they give you crap all you're tripping you're going to have a horrible trip you're going to you may end up in the hospital.
[01:13:14] You may end up in the psych ward overnight until you until you straighten out. I will tell you that.
[01:13:19] Victor Mifsud: [01:13:19] Yeah, I mean now there's a lot of underground guides. There's there's a lot of studies about tripping, you know, I hate to use that word shipping. But anyway you having experience with with a proper.
[01:13:33] You know soon somebody who's going to give you a neutral space for you to like unfold and meet yourself. I mean Michael pollan's new book how to change your mind, you know talked about his experiences with with with these trip sitters. I mean, it's a pretty great read if somebody's interested in learning more about that that kind of world.
[01:13:53] I mean, there's books like this to you know, like psychedelic healing. There's a lot of talk about it [01:14:00] now, but you just got to be careful. Enter it's not an easy. Let go in a situation. Like I said don't recommend that in the city and definitely setting are so important.
[01:14:14] Carl Lanore: [01:14:14] Oh, I also have stopped. I don't like the word biohacking.
[01:14:20] I like the word bio hijacking because hacking simply means unauthorized access to code. That's what it means. Yeah, but it doesn't mean that you're doing anything necessarily that's profoundly different about that code. Even if you're altering it your destination isn't really changed dramatically.
[01:14:43] You're just either slowing down the process of getting to that destination or speeding it up. I like bio hijacking because most of us we're trying to literally like using that same Journey analogy. We want to put a gun to the [01:15:00] pilots head and go. Oh, we're not going to that dark place where I can't see anymore.
[01:15:05] I my heart stops. We're going to this other destination. We're going to Tahiti instead. So alter your course because I'm hijacking you we're not going where you thought we were going and I would really like to see more people start using the term by a hijacking because that's what it is guys like you and me.
[01:15:23] I don't want to slow down my inevitable death. I want to I want to derail it. I don't want to die. I want to I want to be strong and I want to live and I want to do all the things that I always felt that was fun in my 20s and 30s well into my hundred and 20s and 30s and that's going to take a hijacker.
[01:15:40] Now. I've got to take some by putting a gun to the head of my biological processes in go, uh destinations changed. We're not going there. We're going here instead.
[01:15:52] Victor Mifsud: [01:15:52] Right.
[01:15:52] Carl Lanore: [01:15:52] So I mean, it's just something that I've been coining a little bit more and more.
[01:15:57] Victor Mifsud: [01:15:57] I should change my Instagram name then. [01:16:00] I'm on the blind biohacker right now.
[01:16:02] Carl Lanore: [01:16:02] You have to become the Blind by a hijacker. You've made you may want to watch out because like I'm with Homeland Security may stop paying attention to you then you know, yeah,
[01:16:11] Victor Mifsud: [01:16:11] maybe I do like the term, you know, I mean, it's essentially what we're doing is just help optimization. Yeah,
[01:16:19] Carl Lanore: [01:16:19] I like that too.
[01:16:21] Victor Mifsud: [01:16:21] So that's what we're here to do help optimize our health, you know, emotionally and physically and to become you know, superhuman. Yeah, we all have these this power to be like the best versions of herself, but all these blockages emotional blockages or you know, Health blockages whatever slow us down and it's our job is to remove these blockages so we can.
[01:16:49] Brrrr free spirit, you know and to achieve greatness and that's what I've that's my mission and that's what I'm here to do for myself and help other [01:17:00] people with some you know guidance if I can with my films and you know just by speaking with people my clients and you know, whatever so that's what I'm here to do because I've learned a hell of a lot through my mission in my journey to uncovering this stuff.
[01:17:18] For myself, it has not been easy whatsoever. But if I can expedite the process for you and help you some shortcuts and whatever, you know, sure. I'm glad to help out.
[01:17:30] Carl Lanore: [01:17:30] It's funny. You said expedite did I see do you see what I called you nor plasticity Expedition assist. Yeah, I like that. Yeah.
[01:17:39] Listen, I want to thank you so much for all the hard work you've done. Thank you and also for being on the show and. In today's show notes will have ways for you to reach out to Victor. I'm asking people that would not only watch his documentary watch it and have a bunch of people over have a watch party.
[01:17:58] I'm telling you you'll learn so [01:18:00] much about your brain. Even if you're not going blind about your brain that you'll be able to use for you and your children Victor. Thanks for being here today.
[01:18:10] Victor Mifsud: [01:18:10] I'll send you the trailer if you want to put the trailer in the show notes to I mean, it's a little quick snippet of of just they can get an idea of the film.
[01:18:17] So I'll send you the trailer link to you know, you can catch me. I'm pretty active on Instagram at blind biohacker. So, you know anyone when the ones to reach me just catch me there to pretty accessible cool.
[01:18:31] Carl Lanore: [01:18:31] Thanks for being here, bro.
[01:18:33] Victor Mifsud: [01:18:33] Thanks, man toxins
[01:18:34] Carl Lanore: [01:18:34] and tomorrow's show don't miss it. Because tomorrow we're going to have dr.
[01:18:38] Betsy Earth on for a pep talk if you know someone who's had a stroke that's had any type of brain damage. You're not going to want to miss tomorrow's show because we're going to show you how certain peptides can actually help them. Recover from those brain injuries will see you tomorrow. Thanks for listening today [01:19:00] .
