[00:00:00] [00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to the I'm Tanner than you show it's funny this morning. I actually got coffee this morning. I'm back on caffeine. That's okay. You can slap me later and it's funny because I was going through the drive through and this black guy looks at me and goes manual black and I said, yeah I am he goes.

[00:00:20] Oh you are like he was he thought like he meant like I was dark but then when I said, yeah, I am heat the oh, maybe he's African-American because I'm. Dark, and I gotta kind of have some facial features. I just I just been laying in the Sun a lot. But anyway, I love the sun. I will not apologize for loving this son.

[00:00:36] It's on evolutionary gift. So. I did a show last night with Jay Campbell. If you have a chance to catch it, we're already getting some amazing responses. Crazy Carl showed up for the show and we talked about some very very taboo topics that I don't talk about on this show that I would like to but I don't want to offend a lot of people.

[00:00:56] So if you have a chance to check out his his [00:01:00] podcast over at on YouTube check it out. I was on last night and now the first step to changing your life starts with the ReNew Life show. With Adam lamp slide

[00:01:14] Adam Lamb: [00:01:14] slide

[00:01:14] Carl Lanore: [00:01:14] out of in there. How you doing? A Dwight? Let me let me let me take the graphics away.

[00:01:18] So everybody can see it got stem cell

[00:01:21] Adam Lamb: [00:01:21] love it. That's a really cold place to put like man. Am I I'm super white or like you're super

[00:01:28] dude,

[00:01:28] Carl Lanore: [00:01:28] and I'm darker than this camera makes me look. I'm so much darker. Eliza said to me you're not allowed to lay in the sun anymore. And in fact

[00:01:37] Adam Lamb: [00:01:37] side

[00:01:37] Carl Lanore: [00:01:37] when I went when I yeah, it is when I went to.

[00:01:42] Same Peak for the stem for the peptide conference, dr. Seeds and I got there the day earlier and we were both out by the pool. And so he says come on. It's cold out by the pool and I says bill I can't because when you mean you can't I says Eliza said I can't have any more sun. Like I'm too dark already.

[00:01:58] She looks at me she goes. You're just too [00:02:00] dark. And so I said I can't because all come on. He goes, you're not going to get that much darker. You're so dark. Now. I laid out they were shorts. I was out there for 20 minutes. I showed him the tent. I said look, how dark I was and look how dark I am.

[00:02:13] Now he goes. Oh dude, you better go inside. He goes, I don't want to be the one that made you go in the Sun. So yeah, I get dark so fast Adam, it's just stupid

[00:02:22] Adam Lamb: [00:02:22] I get red and then I get white again. It's all idea. Ten minutes where I'm like having little bit of had

[00:02:29] Carl Lanore: [00:02:29] all this shows from an evolutionary perspective is that my ancestors spent a lot of time toiling in the sun.

[00:02:36] My ancestors were obviously laborers, you know, they were in an area of the of the world close to the equator and as such they spent a lot of time in the Sun and this is a protective mechanism to keep my body from over producing vitamin D. That's exactly what this is. Yeah, well when you slaves, you know, that's the way it's

[00:02:58] Adam Lamb: [00:02:58] been an office [00:03:00] somewhere because yeah

[00:03:02] Carl Lanore: [00:03:02] anyway, so this is a really important discussion.

[00:03:04] Yeah, I just happened to send a couple studies over to dr. Seeds about the combination of stem cells and lorig you tied the peptide that's in Victoza. They're now using a combination of of umbilical cord stem cells. And Victoza to reverse beta cell damage in the pancreas. This is huge because it's only in rodents right now, but it just goes to show that when you put stem cells in the right environment with the right cultivators.

[00:03:38] And the right. What's the word? I'm looking for fertilizers. If you will you can reap you can rebuild whole organs in place in the body right there,

[00:03:48] Adam Lamb: [00:03:48] you know, it brings up a good point and something that. The conversation maybe we can have later. I made even want to have such received about is how we can are always looking to where we can compliment, you know, obviously with it with the stem [00:04:00] cells getting people on hormone replacement therapy to is great.

[00:04:04] And I had a doc use an analogy putting purified water into a rustic and doesn't make the most sense, right? And so but it makes me think what things could we potentially add to continue to Stem Cell their gender process to boost the. Or the further along we'll talk today a little bit about just some stuff that we do as a clinic that's different than a lot of other clinics and just some stories.

[00:04:28] I'll share with you about getting results right because a it's not cheap and so you want it to last as long as possible, right? If you buy a $500 pair of shoes you want them to not fall apart the first time you wear them you probably want to keep them for many many years, right? And so the goal of doing the stem cell doing it properly.

[00:04:49] And we'll talk about that and it's also getting into the space for the right reasons, right? There's some guys that I talk to when I was kind of pulling the people I know and finding out about what they're doing this [00:05:00] themselves. A lot of people like they talked about the money they're making right, which is great when you have a successful business you're going to make money, but the other part was only about the results.

[00:05:08] I want to hear about, you know, if one of the partners in mind that we kind of sort of pursue the past pathway. Was bragging was a man had a guy come in for a meeting six months later came in to get a shoulder done to rival. Obviously it work, right and so breaking down the best practices the 082 the specific Al graphs that are used and we'll talk about different stem cell treatments and stuff like that throughout this process, but all that's really important and I didn't realize until I got into the space pretty pretty heavily how uneducated everyone is.

[00:05:42] About those stem cells face and what to do and why you doing

[00:05:47] Carl Lanore: [00:05:47] it like that?  Yeah early on it was all about scamming people early on. Well, you know and people were going to South America and they were going to Mexico to get stem cell therapy and Panama and they were going there [00:06:00] because people being told hey, you know, you can't get to see United States close it works and they were going there and they were having things done and it didn't work.

[00:06:09] So. But it's come full circle now. I remember probably around 2008 when I saw the subscribing to the key word stem cell. I actually mesenchymal stem cell pluripotent stem cell on PubMed. So I would get studies and on a weekly basis there were one or two studies and now there's like 90 a day in this space.

[00:06:30] So it's gotten to the point where it's really legitimate now, and the early adopters are going it didn't work. And the late adopters are going oh now it's going to work because there's real science behind it. So it sometimes it pays to sit on the sidelines for a little while. I know they're people who are desperate like my sister was desperate to cure her Parkinson's disease which she was misdiagnosed anyway, but you know, so she agreed to undergo.

[00:06:55] Stem cell they pulled sells out of her brain and they put him [00:07:00] in addition. They incubated them and they grew them and unfortunately they got infected and they couldn't do it and she died before they could do it again. But anyway, and some people were desperate and they're like, I don't care if it's bullshit right now.

[00:07:10] I'm gonna do it. Anyway. Yeah, it did those of us who sat on the sidelines. We're actually going to get paid off now because now it's really science.

[00:07:16] Adam Lamb: [00:07:16] Yeah. Yeah, and it's a difference of you know, there's. We go to the conversation as stem cells just to so many people that are people that are like, oh I had stem cells done.

[00:07:26] It pulled the blood for my arm and they spin it they put it back in its pure P. How do

[00:07:30] Carl Lanore: [00:07:30] you have that's prv, right

[00:07:32] Adam Lamb: [00:07:32] little doesn't kind of mesenchymal stem cells in there, but they don't know that you know, there's that there's the adipose which is nor the poor from your fat. It's been a put it back in.

[00:07:43] We'll talk about that. There's the bone marrow they pull from your hip. Spin it put it back in you both of those procedures. It's a procedure. I mean if they're both pretty painful ones like a liposuction what I mean, they're Drilling in your bones. The

[00:07:59] Carl Lanore: [00:07:59] one that goes [00:08:00] into your pelvis hurts people find her we've had people on the show that have done it.

[00:08:03] It hurts

[00:08:04] Adam Lamb: [00:08:04] it hurts. And so in the thing is is, you know, a lot of times I've ever for sure after the grab it for sit down, but the show something that the fitness of yourselves, right? Is something that doesn't always get taken into account. So we look at how do you call it

[00:08:22] Carl Lanore: [00:08:22] 61 and it's kind of court and according to people have to show I'm like killing it.

[00:08:28] So I don't know. I don't know what that means. I'm

[00:08:30] Adam Lamb: [00:08:30] gonna say like 51 52. So you're 61 years old you and I just can't understand even without the bit of an education or knowledge. We have that like my six year old daughter's cells. Are healthier than yours or mine, right?

[00:08:47] Carl Lanore: [00:08:47] Oh, yeah.

[00:08:48] Adam Lamb: [00:08:48] It's about them that their ability to multiply right in their ability to recover those kind of things because in a joke with with patients and I'm like listen those sell your the brand [00:09:00] new umbilical cells.

[00:09:00] They've never had a cigarette then they were at a sunburn they'd never had a scotch then they were like, they're fresh. They're right there. So their ability to regenerate the rates that they can regenerate which we call the fitness of the cell. Is fast the time right? So we have the Europeans not stem cells.

[00:09:19] We have the hip, you know, the bone marrow that is of your own. But if you're eating years old that procedure alone might kick your butt. Right, right and then adipose the fat tissue the other the other negative side about the fat stuff is we know that we store some toxins in our fat tissues, right?

[00:09:38] So right also be in there so that the health of those cells. To regenerate how we want them to is pretty low. And then we go into some things too that this is like the sneaky stuff that I call out there because it's not being sold transparently is amniotic fluid, right? So it's literally 10 times less [00:10:00] than the actual cost of stem cells, but they're selling it.

[00:10:04] And a similar price and I've never met anybody and and

[00:10:07] Carl Lanore: [00:10:07] what and what is the concentration of stem cells in amniotic fluid if there's any at all it's it's accidental.

[00:10:15] Adam Lamb: [00:10:15] It's all right, there's no way

[00:10:17] Carl Lanore: [00:10:17] yeah, because of course. The older good stem cells are in the baby.

[00:10:20] Adam Lamb: [00:10:20] Well, they're in the umbilical the umbilical cord tissue right break.

[00:10:25] We'll break all that down and get right right. So then that any act or is there but. It was no living cells, right? So what it does is it still just like a PRP or an inflammation response? It's

[00:10:36] Carl Lanore: [00:10:36] got a scaffold more of a scaffolding than a living cell exactly

[00:10:40] Adam Lamb: [00:10:40] dead scaffold, right? So it still creates the response of the body to send your stem cells there.

[00:10:46] But again, if you're 60, you don't have that many stem cells anyway in the fitness of the ones you actually have to regenerate as well, right? So. Then we move into a Biblical the umbilical [00:11:00] cord Wharton's jelly type to ask aspect of it. There's also umbilical cord blood which was pretty popular people were doing via IV.

[00:11:08] Like we don't do any IDs in the issue with that is that there has to be a blood type match for you're going to have a response and negative response and also with umbilical cord blood. What they show is that there is that studies show that there isn't any Muslim kind of stem cells in that blood.

[00:11:27] You're just getting the cord blood. Yeah, and then so that the a is really kind of pretty recent and the group we work with we stay on the front if you look at like our ads compared to the ad but the back and buy ads most of these clinics are out there doing it's bad news and that please come down but the we stay kind of her that stuff's in further studies and if these like we don't know about that.

[00:11:50] We don't do it we stop so then we give you the tissue which is the Wharton's jelly product. That actually is Rich. [00:12:00] It's the richest thing that of stem cells

[00:12:04] Carl Lanore: [00:12:04] the drought. It's called jelly. You just had

[00:12:06] Adam Lamb: [00:12:06] one tissue called once so they take the tissue and creepers allograph so that basically. No, like clean way to put it with ticular thickness vocal cord and they kind of grind it up because legally they can only manipulate it a certain amount so it can be pushed through 23 gauge syringe, right?

[00:12:27] So they can't adjust it. They can't put it in a Petri dish and grow it that's kind of something reardon's doing as he's taking yourself down in Panama and he's fighting the fittest of the fit and then he's replicating those and finish the fit replicating those it's good 90-day process. Picking your own cells and he's turning them basically tournament like super cells right do that here because this country it's considered like a 351 drug issues.

[00:12:53] You manipulate it. So the tissue product what we do, but if we're to manipulate that in a lab the [00:13:00] change that structure of it it actually becomes a drug, which is Goofy, but that's the rules as they are today. So then. The difference then it now you're not we're like, okay. This is what we want to do is the umbilical cord tissue, then it comes down to what labview work with and this is like this you understand like how deep down the science Rabbit Hole we're going into and it goes the labs that have you talked about the scaffolding but having majority of the structure still in place so that when you inject that tissue, Product into the joint space, you know that you're using it's already there because living cells there's absolutely you better go see way up and you won't feel safe way up there.

[00:13:44] I have a picture of what one of those looks like on a microscope on this big badass and it shows they put the diameter and show them you can actually see that the living cells inside the piece of tissue and the exosome. [00:14:00] That are you can actually see that the green is the communication of that so, you know, what's living in the 17 pieces that's easy for it to start regenerating when it's already put together

[00:14:10] Carl Lanore: [00:14:10] that scaffolding.

[00:14:11] Yeah

[00:14:12] Adam Lamb: [00:14:12] those little we've looked at some studies with at the competitor product and there's like a few little blue spots that living cells right? No Shackleton hardly at all because what happens is so you'll have one. Lab, that will take an umbilical cord. Let's just say it's that 22 inch umbilical cord and they'll turn that into a hundred and fifty holographic files, right and then the other lab will take that same adult before you turn into.

[00:14:41] Which one you want?

[00:14:42] Carl Lanore: [00:14:42] So of course what is less concentrated? Obviously,

[00:14:45] Adam Lamb: [00:14:45] so that's insert. We take it to the depth of that study to you know, as far as like what we do and it's in the reason I want to share that is because it's kind of cool. I think to understand the evolution of like the word stem cells right on the [00:15:00] shirts not all the same it gets down to like some actual very specific stuff and at the end of the day the cost is about the same for a lot of these procedures.

[00:15:09] But the results

[00:15:11] Carl Lanore: [00:15:11] when you get here what you get isn't this a so, let me let me ask you a question. You said something interesting. So people maybe people can't come to your clinic in Texas. Let's say well you said that the FDA is coming down on some of these groups that some of their advertising is a little smarmy.

[00:15:26] What are the red flags? Like if you see a stem cell Clinic making what kind of claims should you just steer clear from?

[00:15:33] Adam Lamb: [00:15:33] Yeah, I mean so there's there's different lots of them. I mean this the goofy simple stuff is they're not even supposed to say stem cell therapy in their stuff like those

[00:15:41] Carl Lanore: [00:15:41] are filling

[00:15:42] Adam Lamb: [00:15:42] the state.

[00:15:43] Yeah. It's supposed to be I'm going to show you a different. I'm going to add these ads I'm going to show you some stuff I should have dressed for cool. There's some so there's there's things that yeah, it's I mean what we do is we do regenerative medicine with symptoms, right? So it's a difference of saying that stem cell [00:16:00] therapy.

[00:16:00] So. Here's an ad I'll show you just to give you an example and this is I hold

[00:16:05] Carl Lanore: [00:16:05] on hold on. Let me let me show you so that ad is bigger and everybody can see it on. Yeah, okay, go talk about it.

[00:16:10] Adam Lamb: [00:16:10] It's so like this happen example just says like my knees feel 10 years younger and less than 90 days. Come on, right.

[00:16:18] So like that's the regenerative process what the analogy we use is we talked about it as think of it like a bait right or I'm sorry. So you have Inception right? Most people don't even know they're pregnant 489 week, right so knees and

[00:16:35] Carl Lanore: [00:16:35] depending on some of these more obese individuals some of whom don't know they're pregnant until they go into labor.

[00:16:40] I'm serious that happens often it is like could you imagine that actually is a regular occurrence in our population right now?

[00:16:47] Adam Lamb: [00:16:47] It is crazy because you know the circles you and I roll in we hang out with like. I mean I can take a look at the people I talk to you just this morning like high-functioning top top of the food chain thinking people but I've also in [00:17:00] this space, you know, we're helping a lot of people that have made some serious.

[00:17:03] Carl Lanore: [00:17:03] Bad decisions in their lives, right exactly and

[00:17:07] Adam Lamb: [00:17:07] realize it because I'm closed off to I work with a lot of elite people right? And so I see these people that are diabetic and those are things to a quick example if your A1C is over like a seven two seven five, you should not get stem cells because your pancreas is so.

[00:17:24] That when we inject your knee is going to go right to your pancreas and your knees not going to get filled but listen

[00:17:30] Carl Lanore: [00:17:30] shut up already call but let's but I want to stay I want to stay with this. So what are the what are the red flags can people watch for so obviously saying that stupid stuff like.

[00:17:40] Two weeks later. I felt like I was 25 and that nonsense just discount that immediately other things that clinics like so you said they're not allowed to say stem cell that they're not

[00:17:49] Adam Lamb: [00:17:49] supposed to say stem cell therapy. So there's a there's all these things that they have days come out with and so the word on the street is that the FDA is November 20 20, they're [00:18:00] basically right now making their list and checking it twice for all the people that are over-promising and doing these, you know, kind of.

[00:18:07] Adds that they're not supposed to do and then they're going to come back after them and say hey how much money is made between this time and this time with those ads? Hey, yeah, why

[00:18:14] Carl Lanore: [00:18:14] not and then they'll be penalties and other things that fines and other things aside

[00:18:19] Adam Lamb: [00:18:19] what they're

[00:18:19] Carl Lanore: [00:18:19] gonna do what they're gonna do is they're gonna let these companies basically give them enough rope to hang themselves going to let these companies dig themselves into a situation where they're going to go out of business once they come down on them.

[00:18:29] Adam Lamb: [00:18:29] Right and so like we work with a group of about 41 clinics throughout the country and our job is just. It's all ethical people that are like, how can we do the absolute best job get the right result in like maybe we're not winning on a volume standpoint, but that's okay because when the rest of the guys are gone the guys that did it right.

[00:18:47] Guess what now? We're there to clean up. So when you look at here's a one of our ads hoping so we do a lot with neuropathy

[00:18:54] Carl Lanore: [00:18:54] get closer with it. Bring it right up close. Okay, that's it neuropathy

[00:18:58] Adam Lamb: [00:18:58] probably, but you can go to the [00:19:00] ad. There's nothing you want.

[00:19:02] Carl Lanore: [00:19:02] Yeah, you're just making a point million suffer with peripheral neuropathy.

[00:19:05] Is that

[00:19:06] Adam Lamb: [00:19:06] right there a great here. You'll see where it says might be a little spot that says learn about stem cells write it because

[00:19:14] Carl Lanore: [00:19:14] and you also don't say anything about we will reverse your neuropathy on that end. Well,

[00:19:19] Adam Lamb: [00:19:19] no, but I'll tell you man. We've had some seriously amazing results have been people can't feel the feet that three weeks later.

[00:19:27] They're like at my feet are itching. But I know it's a good thing because I have

[00:19:31] Carl Lanore: [00:19:31] styling is coming back to him. Yeah,

[00:19:33] Adam Lamb: [00:19:33] right. Please accept my left foot falls asleep. When I'm driving. She said that as it happened in five years. She goes it just tells me that I know it's working right? It's different things like this is a big thing to think of proper procedure day is so it's a good story.

[00:19:47] I wasn't one of these labs in a meeting and myself bunch of Physician's Clinic owners director seems like that in. One of the guys great cities like how soon are we supposed to get that in the patient, you know a [00:20:00] few hours or so the guy stops. He's like that needs to be in them from the time of thoughts because we keep everything prior in a liquid nitrogen from the time.

[00:20:08] It falls 6 about five minutes in your hand and it room temperature about twenty ten minutes in the whole room with like everybody was in shock and we

[00:20:19] Carl Lanore: [00:20:19] will do it in wrong

[00:20:21] Adam Lamb: [00:20:21] because the the efficacy of. That dropped significantly rapidly and then the next you know, what you're almost have it in the ionic food product, which is 10 times less the car that because the cells are dead, right?

[00:20:36] They're not alive anymore. There are living so there's just those little turning like best practice that you know, we do everything is ultrasound-guided write it right? There's because we talked to people growing like a oh, yes. Absolutely. I didn't really work tell me about. I

[00:20:49] Carl Lanore: [00:20:49] got a problem my knee but they Infuse it in my arm over here.

[00:20:52] It's like the huh gotta shoot in your knee. Well, why didn't they shoot it in your knee because they read they require ultrasound guidance in order to [00:21:00] get into the intra-articular joy a capsule and they don't have that. So yeah, you're right. So

[00:21:04] Adam Lamb: [00:21:04] it's those things. It's.

[00:21:08] Carl Lanore: [00:21:08] I had

[00:21:08] Adam Lamb: [00:21:08] it done in it didn't work.

[00:21:09] I was just I have my questions to ask them and but someone recently the guy that didn't work and I'm like what else did you do for your knee before of cortisone shots and like oh really how many you can choose one of those people that she went and had it done twice. The doctor wouldn't do it a third time.

[00:21:24] So she went to this next Doctor Who's the goofball Doctor Who gave them the court gave her the cortisone shot and then she's like what about the stem cells stuff? Yeah, we can do that to two weeks later to the court. Some sort of shot. You have to be outside of your cortisone shot at least six weeks one of my best friend's mom.

[00:21:42] She want to come in Friday and Jenna cortisone shot two weeks ago. And I said, hey Gail six weeks before you can come up before you can do it in the difference where I see this because if someone will let you do it. They just want your money. They don't want your outcome, right my goal. I want [00:22:00] every single one of these people.

[00:22:01] I'm like listen in nine months you're coming back and you're doing a testimony. Right because what is that we get the results and so that's important to me. It's those little things I think for people looking into it is asking the right questions and finding out like what is their actual what's there pre-op?

[00:22:18] No NSAIDs, we take everybody off for every anti-inflammatory tumeric fish oil vitamin all that stuff five days out and then after procedures of the neck for the first 30 days. No inside either no anytime flame, right

[00:22:33] Carl Lanore: [00:22:33] because you want to normalize your inflammatory response and we're going to talk about.

[00:22:39] That the fact that stem cells themselves carry an altered inflammatory response with them. Yeah, but Danny Geraldo Oquendo says how do you compare the actions of some tissue reparation therapy using stem cells plus peptides like TB 500 and bpc 157. Are you integrating peptides [00:23:00] into

[00:23:00] Adam Lamb: [00:23:00] stem cell? I'm going to tell you the story.

[00:23:03] So, you know my achilles tendon I've had issues with for a year now, right so I had a tear. Last last July I tore my achilles tendon tears not anything like rupture it and so I've been having around no cardio. I mean I couldn't like what my family went to the zoo. And April I couldn't go on like it's too much walking.

[00:23:22] Right? I think we talked about that and we talked to Jake your foot issue. So I did BBC 157 TV 500 after a week of PPC 157. I could walk in the treadmill slow. Three weeks of bpc 157 I actually went snowboarding but it's still burning you're in a silver. Boot that isolates the movement of the in the need for that goes

[00:23:46] Carl Lanore: [00:23:46] to the ankle stays very very stiff.

[00:23:48] Right?

[00:23:49] Adam Lamb: [00:23:49] Wow. It's so so it helps been improved it but it wasn't enough. And so I knew I was going to do stem cell. So I stopped EPC 150 [00:24:00] 7500. I wanted to give it a good 60 days like that's out of there. Four weeks after doing stem cells I can jump again. I'm like walking doesn't even bother me.

[00:24:10] There's no some discomfort still down there but it is the first thing that like really change, you know, and for the difference of you think of running BBC 157 and cb500 for three months or something like that to get a little bit of relief some relief, but the stem cells to like knock it out like done.

[00:24:32] It's it's a preservative openness. Like I thought like forever. I'm just going to be hovering around.

[00:24:37] Carl Lanore: [00:24:37] Well, I happen to know a very very I'm so I'm not going to use names because I don't know what ramifications could occur, but I happen to know a very very high level orthopedic surgeon who has done some amazing surgeries on some athletes and Incorporated both.

[00:24:59] [00:25:00] peptides into the surgeries and the outcomes were remarkable and the outcomes were far above and beyond what is considered standards of recovery for these types of surgeries. And I also know that he is now working with other doctors who incorporating both stem cells and peptides the peptides to create a more fertile environment.

[00:25:26] For the stem cells to do their jobs and the outcomes are are are markedly better than just one therapy or the other therapy when you combine the two and it makes perfect sense. If you were a young child and you had a surgery your body already produces thymosin beta for in the thymus gland which atrophies as you age and you become less and less resilient than why your immune system starts to foul up and so on and so.

[00:25:54] Children recover faster because they have many more of these peptides floating [00:26:00] around in their bloodstream as you age you get less and less so by using these peptides almost like hormone replacement therapy by using these peptides your just enabling stem cells. To do what they were intended to do in the first place differentiate and creating

[00:26:15] Adam Lamb: [00:26:15] a

[00:26:15] Carl Lanore: [00:26:15] better environment exactly exactly.

[00:26:17] So so I can tell you that they

[00:26:20] Adam Lamb: [00:26:20] work. What I'll do actually is I'll get back on the DTC 157 and see if this. Kind of goes in Next Level from a recovery speed rape you know tell you the fact that I can jump I have one of those verticals like I can jump onto a kitchen counter like I have this like a crazy vertical right and not be able to jump anymore or they couldn't I literally couldn't jumps up to go upstairs and I can jump again I'm back with kind of you know I see if you guys to work out every day and Sprint packed with my at the end of my workout Sprint and so I'm not going to do that yet I'm smart enough to know that everything's not.

[00:26:57] Done down there. It's only been seven [00:27:00] weeks. So it's but I'm also sure I'll get back in the BBC One 57 and then I'll kind of drop in and the results of what that looks like over the course of the next couple months. It's a it's a good question. I'll personally go through the path to see what happens.

[00:27:16] Carl Lanore: [00:27:16] So let's talk about inflammation for a second. So one of the early things that were discovered about pep talk about stem cells was they seem to crush. Like just shut it down and it makes perfect sense when you think about

[00:27:31] Adam Lamb: [00:27:31] it because

[00:27:32] Carl Lanore: [00:27:32] inflammation is is the beacon for the body to send it's healing.

[00:27:39] Army to this particular area fix this injury, right? Obviously people who are chronically inflamed their fire departments are everywhere so they can't even control any of the inflammation because there's so overworked but when you have healthy inflammatory response the inflammation resolves, [00:28:00] and when it resolves the inflammation stops, it goes away.

[00:28:04] It's not needed anymore and what they are learned early on they said oh, you know. Stem cells seem to be anti-inflammatory. No, they're not anti-inflammatory at all. In fact, what you're seeing is complete resolution of an injury. So the body goes. Hey, we don't need it formation anymore over there because it's fixed.

[00:28:22] It's an amazing phenomenon.

[00:28:23] Adam Lamb: [00:28:23] Like you mentioned the body so that it's so confused because all the inflammation in the body that the stem cells. It's like crying wolf the body just doesn't know and I joke with people. I'm like you're better off. Me hitting you in the knee with a stick to like actually create something different.

[00:28:42] That's why I like you sugar shots people are going and getting you know to Sugar shadows will get this sugar shot thing in their knee or whatever. It's literally sugar and the shot and it because it creates inflammation. To draw your stem cells to that area. Probably charge $1500 for [00:29:00] huh?

[00:29:00] Carl Lanore: [00:29:00] Thank you.

[00:29:01] They also you they also use they also use lecithin as which is a surfactant. So like when you have tendonitis, what they'll do is they'll needle the area and they'll inject small amounts. Of of lecithin and that lecithin causes an inflammatory response that makes the body go a we never did fix that tendon over there.

[00:29:24] Let's go back over there and fix it. So that's it inflammation is a really important. What's that?

[00:29:30] Adam Lamb: [00:29:30] Did it makes it stand out Above The Runaways nagging injury along. It's never going to get kill me. Unless you're like. 15 right but right you have to do

[00:29:42] Carl Lanore: [00:29:42] but part of the fun of being 15, so every part of being 15 isn't just that you have all of these resources available.

[00:29:50] You're also not chronically inflamed. I use this analogy all the time and I just kind of implied it a second ago. Imagine your body is a. And [00:30:00] imagine you have 30 fire departments covering that City and a fire breaks out over here. And we deploy depending on the size of the fire one or two fire departments in that area.

[00:30:09] They put the fire out that come home. Everything is quiet. Now imagine the city is on fire. Those fire departments can't put out the whole city. So they basically do haphazard job. Well, we'll try to get this fire out. But that one's blazing they can't do anything at all

[00:30:25] Adam Lamb: [00:30:25] which control as opposed to eliminate.

[00:30:27] Carl Lanore: [00:30:27] Most people today are chronically inflamed part of the reason. They don't heal isn't just that the resources to heal have started to. Diminish it's because what resources they have been working around the clock trying to keep information on a wide scale level down in the body. And this is why as people age stuff breaks and doesn't repair and it's really it's really really interesting because if more people understood this they would do more to lower chronic inflammation year-round.

[00:31:00] [00:31:00] Adam Lamb: [00:31:00] We live in such it inflammatory environment. Like, you know the things we consume and obviously the food but just it just causes that inflammation, you know that yeah

[00:31:10] Carl Lanore: [00:31:10] the types of oils that you eat and so on I want to take a break when we come back Aiden rage has joined us late and he's got a couple questions and we probably could use this as a template to move forward in the rest of the show.

[00:31:21] So let's do this if people want to learn more about the stem cell Clinic, where do they go Adam do they just get to

[00:31:28] Adam Lamb: [00:31:28] renew life RX and actually come through we can do it. Pretty cool discount for them. I mean I have some against you the names yet. But we're going to be filming participation pretty popular MMA guys a few pretty cool celebrity folks they're flying in but I say that just because we're going to be documenting it but people look like my current clients are flying in to get a significant discount just was you know, they're making the travel as opposed to we have to spend lots of money to seeing clients here.

[00:31:53] So they go through the regular process of just reach out to email me adamant, ReNew Life RX. We'll [00:32:00] talk about it. If it's right for them you happen to 300 hour flight round trip and get the best treatment and actually get a significant discount. That's awesome. That's really

[00:32:09] Carl Lanore: [00:32:09] awesome. I let's do this.

[00:32:10] Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back more with more of the ReNew Life RX show. Stay tuned. Welcome back. I gotta I gotta mention something here. So, dr. Seeds.com Bill seeds company that company introduced the aura.

[00:32:29] Adam Lamb: [00:32:29] Bpc

[00:32:29] Carl Lanore: [00:32:29] product which is sweeping the nation and so many people are using a

[00:32:32] Adam Lamb: [00:32:32] God every day.

[00:32:33] You do I take to get to that the Black Pearl play. I know I've been you have been sentenced come to people for that even through the stem cell stuff what people come into Crohn's disease will fix it. It might help but I'm not going to tell them that we don't we stay in our lane of like the joints that like if someone comes to us with a problem and like hey, you did your research will treat you but I'm not we're not you know, but.

[00:32:57] With him that stuff their products. Also, I think that everything [00:33:00] that

[00:33:00] Carl Lanore: [00:33:00] well as you know, Justin Kirkland works with him and they worked on so there's a compound called on Tokyo, which is an extract of Magnolia Sido Magnolia bark. Yeah, and it has a profound anti-anxiety effect, but the problem with it is it's got like ten minute half life.

[00:33:20] It's gone. And so what they did was they turned it into a Dye Hydro form of a no Keyhole and it's now available as an it's called the chill pill and everybody who's tried. It says It's amazing. It doesn't sedate you. It just removes any hint of anxiety makes you feel like you are super on top of your game and it lasts four to five hours with one pill.

[00:33:47] So people who have anxiety issues. Before

[00:33:50] Adam Lamb: [00:33:50] you go to bed, but that's usually my like I lay in bed. My brain goes.

[00:33:54] Carl Lanore: [00:33:54] Well, there's that you can try this for sure. So I use a supplement that has [00:34:00] hinoki illinit and it's supposed to help you fall asleep faster. So I would imagine this would too, but I'll tell you what, well, I'll tell you what we're seeing more and more of okay, I get emails and messages from guys who tell me they having trouble in bed.

[00:34:15] They're using blue chew they using. Different types of things but when it comes time to get busy, they literally feel the anxiety like they get they get like performance anxiety. Yeah, and and and and and mr. Winky just kind of takes a dip.

[00:34:33] Adam Lamb: [00:34:33] It's majority of the issue.

[00:34:35] Carl Lanore: [00:34:35] Yes. Majority of old men old men have erectile dysfunction not because the plumbing is bad, but because they have this anxiety issue and then if they take.

[00:34:44] Xanax then they are too sleepy to have you know, it's like it's either one or the other. It's like they're either wired to the

[00:34:51] Adam Lamb: [00:34:51] the we do is guys where they try it Evie pill and I'm saying okay, it doesn't work and I'm like trying it anxiety and also had a guy who took a [00:35:00] point two five ten. I've seems like man, I was rock and roll.

[00:35:03] Yes. That means it's in your head. It isn't that's their right. Heidi is shutting everything down. I

[00:35:09] Carl Lanore: [00:35:09] predict that people who have social anxiety issues that have anxiety before making love. I think that this this dot this DH dihydrate, huh. Tokyo will be the answer. The product is called the chill pill.

[00:35:24] Can you believe it? I mean,

[00:35:26] Adam Lamb: [00:35:26] you're my email. I think it was Justin and I have been friends for 10 years and he's where we get a lot of our. Information from you've met you thoughtfully before I think it's crazy smart crazy smart guy, but and that's why I asked him. I was like man, what's this thing good.

[00:35:40] He was like, it's awesome. It's very kind of gave me all the nuts and bolts around it. That's the science. He talks to me knows I'm a. Layman bonehead, so I like it's a science

[00:35:52] Carl Lanore: [00:35:52] for the he's brilliant the guys brain so it can be taken before flights before public speaking events any situation that [00:36:00] brings you and a level of stress

[00:36:02] Adam Lamb: [00:36:02] Universe.

[00:36:03] Carl Lanore: [00:36:03] I've got to I got mine on its way, you know that it results come on in about 20 minutes and they last for hours you can use the code shr. If you go to dr. seeds.com Dr. SE EDS.com and get 20% off your first bottle and I want everyone who uses it to email me at on are at superhuman radio dotnet. I want to hear what you think of it.

[00:36:30] We were talking about this in Tampa. This potentially could be one of the biggest over-the-counter supplement explosions ever because so many people today suffer with anxiety anxiety related depression. This could be it and there's not many not habit-forming. You can stop anytime you want. I mean, it's amazing.

[00:36:51] The

[00:36:51] Adam Lamb: [00:36:51] biggest is the biggest issue because we live in this like, I mean even with clients that we talked to in the hormonal side, We're [00:37:00] like we live in this like we're being shot at 24/7. Yes.

[00:37:03] Carl Lanore: [00:37:03] I call it my own part. I call it my own private Vietnam. That's what I call it what I talk about it I go I live in my own private Vietnam

[00:37:10] Adam Lamb: [00:37:10] and everybody just try to function like that.

[00:37:13] Our bodies are just beat to hell. It's okay. I can improve your testosterone levels, but I can't improve. Your anxiety levels because you got to like come to some turquoise.

[00:37:23] Carl Lanore: [00:37:23] We live with our foot on the gas pedal. That's how we live. We live with our foot on the gas pedal to terrible way to live unfortunately, but it's it is what it is.

[00:37:30] And you know what I'm guilty of it. Look I've kicked caffeine so many times but you know what I get one bad night sleep and I gotta show up here and I can't be an Italian week almost shot. I can't be more shot. I can't be. Hey, welcome to the show what's going on? Oh, I forgot that. I forgot this.

[00:37:47] I can't do that. So I got to take. It's five six seven hundred milligrams of caffeine before the and then I'm back on that frigging wagon again, and so, you know

[00:37:56] Adam Lamb: [00:37:56] bring coffee and that's it. I try not to. [00:38:00] May I

[00:38:00] Carl Lanore: [00:38:00] can't I can't I can't just drink coffee. I need real caffeine in the morning to go to the gym when I feel like this and some people going to say but call just don't go to the gym those days.

[00:38:08] Well, if I don't go to those gyms those date I won't go to the gym anymore. I look Hayden Ray is going to get us on track here says I'm late to the party stem cells sources fat or umbilical cord. Most common uses local or combo local insertion and systemic IV as well to really good questions. What do you think

[00:38:25] Adam Lamb: [00:38:25] all of this also?

[00:38:28] Stem cell source and vocal cord is going to be the best with an exception what you can't do in this country is it if you get and I would only recommend dr. Reardon's clinic, but it's like they start at 30 grand. But I mean that dude I met him in person. Yeah, I got told you a couple months ago. I spent time with him the science team like those guys.

[00:38:50] They care more about the results in doing the right thing. Then the money but the money there's there's make fall colors and [00:39:00] then you know other discussions but it's so the I would only recommend if you're going to be the process I'm going to tell you about to go to his Clinic just because that's the only place I would go in this where they draw your own they put in a peach when you fly out with take your stuff you fly back and then 90 days plus you go back there to get it done.

[00:39:19] So it's your own cells and they kind of superhuman them up. They find that the cream of the crop and make them real. But it's a very expensive process which most people can't afford. The second is the umbilical cord which we do which we recommend the and then to go into the second part of the question local or combo location insertion and systemic ideas.

[00:39:42] Well, so two things to add with that so it for me I did my achilles tendon, but I also did it I am shot up here in my traps. And so I did one unit down here and one up here. Here's some of the thought process behind it. I'm treating lower extremity and upper extremity, [00:40:00] right? So they're deploying their to multiply multiply multiply in these areas when you do and that would be considered systemic, right?

[00:40:08] So we talked about Ivan. Ankylo Spondylitis autoimmune disease. I believe the stem cells can help that we. Say that we don't sell that I mean we've tried we've treated

[00:40:18] Carl Lanore: [00:40:18] you. Yeah, this is you

[00:40:20] Adam Lamb: [00:40:20] being like hey guess what? I'm part of some so-called do whatever I want with it. Right as long as it doesn't break the law and so for myself and so I believe that it will help that so that's when you do here's a problem with Ivy number one.

[00:40:34] If you're doing Ivy you're putting it into your bloodstream and if you're using a tissue product a putting a tissue product into a bloodstream. Is a bad idea.

[00:40:44] Carl Lanore: [00:40:44] In fact could that actually trigger the immune system

[00:40:48] Adam Lamb: [00:40:48] actually what it can and will and it can actually kill you. And so let me tell you why I think some of the high-quality tissue Drive products and we talked about we remember we're dividing the [00:41:00] tissue a hundred fifty times instead of 400 times the the Micron size of the tissue into your bloodstream can literally kill you, right?

[00:41:10] So this is where like. Working with the wrong people can kill you and it so if you're doing Ivy let me talk about before you may be using a blood look at core product for these that the amnio the amnio product

[00:41:26] Carl Lanore: [00:41:26] and we and we know that that has less of and possibly just dead stem cells in its Euro

[00:41:31] Adam Lamb: [00:41:31] mesenchymal stem cell.

[00:41:33] Yeah, right. Yeah, the cord tissue is really the only thing that we know of that has it. Except for pulling it from like that or her your phone out. So if you're going to do systemic think of it like a B12 shot or a I know we wouldn't I don't get a flu shot. I think if you get rejected you we get those kind of boosters.

[00:41:51] It's just an intramuscular injection, right? You don't put your testosterone in your vein be totally shoulder or your hip or me cook you can do the [00:42:00] same thing with the stem cells and the tree. Overall some for the rest of my life as long as I can. My plan is to do a stem cell treatment once a year because I want to deploy those into my system let them go and they're going to go and they want right.

[00:42:16] I'll tell you a couple quick quick thing in a quick story. So the other reason to you don't want it going into the cool part about going into the vein is the first place. It's going to go it's heart and lungs. So it's going to go in there and if you have some information, especially with if your.

[00:42:30] We won't work with smokers. It's another thing you smoke cigarettes. You can't get some cells to quit smoking. You'll kill place in your diet or if you've a keen on the last 12 months we want we will work with people and then the other one is that the diabetes A1C over 7.5. So when it goes into let's say for example that you have some inflammation bad stuff going on your lungs.

[00:42:51] They're going to go right there. Especially if you live E, I mean treat that area, but I'll tell you crazy story through a guy I talked to. He had a client that had the neat is [00:43:00] me done six years ago. We had a couple a heart attack and there's some Scar Tissue on his heart. He was going up those follow-up appointment and they're doing the ultrasound or whatever in the heart.

[00:43:11] I was actually discussing this with a client of mine actually came through your clinic has a kink the year. Your channel that's a heart surgeon really renowned heart surgeon. Actually that's telling the story and you know, he's part of that community and music it was it's possible but who knows so the guy went back to his dark nine months after having the stem cell treatment.

[00:43:32] He was going to see scary ologist in the carry out. Just looking on there with the ultrasound. He's like, I can't find that starch issue. So

[00:43:41] Carl Lanore: [00:43:41] the steps steps L went there and did something. Yeah.

[00:43:44] Adam Lamb: [00:43:44] Well the stem cells to the blood flow. What's what's it called? A la Gente in June

[00:43:51] Carl Lanore: [00:43:51] and to Genesis.

[00:43:52] Adam Lamb: [00:43:52] Yes, some sort of great danger Genesis.

[00:43:54] That's why I hope for neuropathy. So would love of thee it helps bring blood flow back [00:44:00] to the nerves. It helps prepare the nerves the nerves call for more blood flow more blood flow comes to fix the dirt. Like it's is that system you're actually can regenerate and said I want to say reverse regenerate the process that had been generated.

[00:44:13] Right. That's why it works in the corner apathy. But there was a kind of a unique story that someone shared with me. So no one can say that the stem cells with in repaired that scar tissue in his heart but six years of nothing that couldn't happen. You know, the guy got us.

[00:44:29] Carl Lanore: [00:44:29] Yeah, he's had if all that time and all of a sudden he has this procedure done it's gone, right

[00:44:34] Adam Lamb: [00:44:34] and so if I look at it, I'm like what the worst that can happen is it doesn't work.

[00:44:39] And if you're using the right product and you're using the right procedure.  It's going to work. It won't kill

[00:44:45] Carl Lanore: [00:44:45] you and and what and the whole time you say is I'm thinking well what's wrong with it going to your heart and your lungs if you if you in fact have problems with your heart your lungs. You don't know about well, and the stem cells get gobbled up fixing those problems.

[00:45:00] [00:45:00] That's actually a pretty good thing.

[00:45:01] Adam Lamb: [00:45:01] You told me see it. That's why I'm going to do the annual treatment. No one knows like hey, you know what, you are a four four and a half month or four and a half years away from a heart attack. Yeah.

[00:45:12] Carl Lanore: [00:45:12] You just don't know it right there.

[00:45:14] Adam Lamb: [00:45:14] I believe that if you do the stem cell treatment in your system because your body is used to your body, right?

[00:45:21] But when you put these brand-new feisty Tasmanian Devil umbilical cord as in camel stem cells in there are these guys they're like the new kit they can't wait to show off right? So they're going in your body. They don't care about Carl's done. Your senses have been in your body. Like they've been there forever.

[00:45:36] Right the new ones in they don't know they just know the job they need to do

[00:45:40] Carl Lanore: [00:45:40] and they show off their show off cells. That's terrible.

[00:45:43] Adam Lamb: [00:45:43] I like that. Yeah, and so they're going to go in your body and they're going to do what they're supposed to do. I let me

[00:45:48] Carl Lanore: [00:45:48] look what liquid doing you guys used to do this, but you got old but we're

[00:45:53] Adam Lamb: [00:45:53] doing it now.

[00:45:54] Maybe there is help stimulate your body to get it shipped together and do it too. But I think of the analogy to I use. [00:46:00] Is it like if you bring them made into any hotel room, they're going to know to back in the for make the you're right.

[00:46:07] Carl Lanore: [00:46:07] That's a good point

[00:46:08] Adam Lamb: [00:46:08] to be at that one. That's their job if the job is to go and fix stuff and if your body needs fixing it's going to help fix your body.

[00:46:16] Now how much of a volume standpoint we haven't figured that out yet. Like how much you know, do you need two units or 3 units like we don't know that for sure. We have a couple parameters based on body weight that we. Use per volume so to speak as far as what we treat but it's a it's amazing stuff and just you know, I'm spending my focus on the results.

[00:46:42] So it interviewing the people that have the best results. I want to hear from them. I want to know everything about what were you eating? I mean, we have a three-page post-op Foods we recommend and all the same. You can't know you can do a hot tub for 60 days. Right? And it's. We told you to lay off the alcohol no issue for me things like that.

[00:46:59] So there's [00:47:00] always little things that can be the difference of 10 or 15% more regenerative properties, which could be you know, getting that Carter was back in your knee 15 more percent to give you eight more years of right for me pick the right hole is that you get it done. It's one and done. You don't even do it again if it's done properly, so it's three off.

[00:47:22] Carl Lanore: [00:47:22] So here's an interesting question. No one talks about this but you kind of implied this early on we were talking about the better quality raw materials being more concentrated. You know, what making 400 vials out of that one umbilical cord versus a hundred fifty are there are there recommended doses, you know, that should be given like each session of these stem cells.

[00:47:49] Adam Lamb: [00:47:49] Yeah, it's just sometimes it's based on you know, size body weight the labs going to come up with the stuff. But like I said, the real answer is Carl is that [00:48:00] it hasn't been out enough or study close enough to know, you know, feel like you and I could have the same problem, but you're 50 pounds heavier than me or here's a deal like I'm younger.

[00:48:11] Maybe I'm healthier than you right? So the. Give the fitness of the product Fitness at the cells that we're putting into your

[00:48:17] Carl Lanore: [00:48:17] Fitness of the host that you put your

[00:48:19] Adam Lamb: [00:48:19] Fitness of the holes, right? There was a buddy of mine who works with I mean the guys at work with it to you to check the treated like some NFL players and we had this one have NFL player who had with a fractured leg three weeks out.

[00:48:35] I believe from Super Bowl. Three fractures something I forget to any of the bottom line is he recovered in crazy time you stem cell treatment was actually able to play in the Super Bowl and part of it is a the do just dupe. He's a super athlete, right? So his the fitness of the host is really good and he got a really good treatment process.

[00:48:57] He was able to go out those running back. It will go up and play and [00:49:00] so.  That wouldn't have likely happen that kind of recovery. But if it was you. You probably don't have the same Fitness level as the 25 year old NFL running back, right? So are you probably not going to get the exact same result but you're going to get some unlikely, you know in this world, even though I kind of dog this thing over here in this newspaper.

[00:49:22] It says my knees feel 10 years younger and less than 90 days doesn't it? If in fact we can make your knees feel 10 years younger. It's probably worth it to you, right? It's so like

[00:49:36] Carl Lanore: [00:49:36] yeah, because a lot of people are facing, you know, knee replacement surgery. That's no picnic

[00:49:41] Adam Lamb: [00:49:41] dude. That's scary stuff.

[00:49:42] Let's add our goal. So, I mean it's on my orthopedic surgery friends, you know that I talk to that you didn't even know this existed they know about I've heard about it. They don't know a lot about it. And then when you really explain it to him and get into the science, they're like, holy cow, so it's been able to do [00:50:00] that as we've been able to do relationships.

[00:50:03] This guy's trust us. They know we're doing the right thing. So if someone's like kind of on the cusp of they need surgery to they don't like actually refer mobile. Just cool to get that respect in that Community as well.

[00:50:14] Carl Lanore: [00:50:14] I want to take our last commercial break, but I also want to ask Anthony LaLa to clarify his question.

[00:50:20] Are you talking about injectable BP see if you can answer that question. We will answer your question on the other side of the break stay tuned you're listening to the root and ReNew Life RX show. You can go to renew life are x.com become a customer. I'm going to tell you why HRT is important discussion here when we talk about stem cells.

[00:50:39] Stay tuned. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Okay. So, let's see if we can answer some questions

[00:50:46] Adam Lamb: [00:50:46] here real

[00:50:48] Carl Lanore: [00:50:48] quick.  Anthony LaLa said what bpc product you recommend so. What can we recommend the reality is that I can't recommend using peptides from [00:51:00] unknown sources, if you're using injectable peptides, I would say that you should have your physician write you a prescription get them from TaylorMade Pharmacy in Nicholasville, Kentucky because they have their own amino acid combiners.

[00:51:13] And so they actually make this stuff there. Otherwise you use dr. Seeds.com go to dr. Si.com by the Oral B PC the one with the black and the red label and use that and if you are going to use peptides from a research chemical peptide company, the only company I would trust this peptide sciences.com.

[00:51:36] And that's it. That's it. So he never came back and talked about whether he was talking about. So 18 races General number of repeat applications for symptoms and relief and cure general cost of stem cell treatment. These are good questions because this help people Fair it out whether or not the companies that talking to a legitimate not so what do you think?

[00:51:56] You know, if you go to a chiropractor he wants to have you come in for the rest of your [00:52:00] life. Obviously, there's probably repeat treatments they needed for some of these therapies right

[00:52:05] Adam Lamb: [00:52:05] typically know it's a one and done if we're treating what we're supposed to be treating which is like joint.

[00:52:12] Issues like regenerative issue if we're treating something. That's like I said a we don't treat.  Autoimmune we don't treat ALS we don't treat Ms. Right, but there's been people that we've heard stories of the head. Like Hey, listen, I did my research a buddy of mines got a clinic in Ohio had a lady come in husband.

[00:52:34] What did the research he's like. Listen, I can't treat I'm not treating you for a mass. But we do have you can do a wellness. John look I told you I'm going to do annually right just right for my Boost the wellness booster and within three months the husband called back and was like, Hey, I want to get my wife come in for another treatment.

[00:52:54] She's the most Mobility. She's had like 10 years just after one treatment now and [00:53:00] like we talked about coughs in the dose and those kind of things like they did a higher dose, you know, they did like a three treatment area amount which might be. They were recalled the $15,000 right? So I think if you're going to Vertical one area like you get the torn rotator cuff or something like a shoulder.

[00:53:19] Maybe it's one knee usually if it's windy. It's always to he's it's and I've never seen like one greatly in one package never almost same with hips here. It's probably that for five grand space and then if you're doing two joints, it's usually maybe that eight or nine states. Three joints, it could be 12 15.

[00:53:42] And then the thing we don't know yet is there's a in traditional. Were they here? You're actually innocent geologist. They're going right in your dish.

[00:53:51] Carl Lanore: [00:53:51] Yeah, I know that and that, you know, that's a really touchy thing. You know what I mean? That's how it

[00:53:57] Adam Lamb: [00:53:57] works.

[00:53:57] Carl Lanore: [00:53:57] That's the but yeah, it does work but it's but you [00:54:00] know, it has to be ultrasound-guided.

[00:54:01] It's a lot to it isn't the real.

[00:54:04] Adam Lamb: [00:54:04] Yeah, they're not so that I mean that get your up in the 20 30 40 50 Grand there's a guy in Utah who does knocks you out him and another guy they'll do. Shoulder knee that do like this full body thing for a hundred grand. So we have a partner we work with here in Dallas.

[00:54:21] That's really really good at doing it that we refer people up to it. What

[00:54:26] Carl Lanore: [00:54:26] is it? What is the general cost of the booster? I want I'm going to call it the stem cell booster shot.

[00:54:32] Adam Lamb: [00:54:32] There's actually a company called it's themselves recruitment. The product is it's good in the reason that the boosters good is because post stem cell if you want to go and do that.

[00:54:43] Afterwards to increase the stem cell staying there or did the stem cells your natural stem cells. That isn't going to hurt you but it might be between 3 and 4 grand. Right? So

[00:54:58] Carl Lanore: [00:54:58] we've got theoretically if I [00:55:00] have an HSA account.

[00:55:02] Adam Lamb: [00:55:02] Yeah,

[00:55:02] Carl Lanore: [00:55:02] so if I come in and write you a check for $3,000 that comes out of my health savings.

[00:55:07] And technically that counts against my insurance which means that technically insurance will be paying for it because they don't ask me to submit receipts for the things that I write my checks for.

[00:55:19] Adam Lamb: [00:55:19] Yeah, for sure so we can we do help health savings account insurance doesn't cover.

[00:55:25] Carl Lanore: [00:55:25] Yeah not insurance doesn't cover anything that really will save your life just for the right.

[00:55:29] I mean other than surgery. That surgery

[00:55:31] Adam Lamb: [00:55:31] right? So what when you think of like the amount of I'm guess you getting ready to do a video. It's kind of a marketing video, but the show like I mean, I was prescribed. Well, I possibly can you know Hydrocodone at one time when I went on my trip to Italy I'd always walking in the docks of him in a trust that you're not going to get out of control of these like but take them if you need to I had all these creams and wraps and.

[00:55:56] You're all the way down to the doing the peptides to which I [00:56:00] said that the first thing that actually helped but it didn't get me to the finish line, which is like where I feel like I'm going right now and I definitely doctor's appointments MRI all those things like the money I spent in that bucket of trying to figure this crap out as opposed to like the stem cell bucket.

[00:56:19] It was the same except for the stem cell thing for weeks. Later. I can like walk without painting a painting. So there's a difference in that those two.

[00:56:29] Carl Lanore: [00:56:29] So I want to I want to talk about why like going through a company like ReNew Life RX is actually the best way to do this, right because there are Standalone stem cell companies out there.

[00:56:40] Adam Lamb: [00:56:40] integrative. Let it swell

[00:56:45] Carl Lanore: [00:56:45] but I'm so so so, dr. Dale bredesen came on my show in 2013 and talked about a study that he had published where he had taken 20 people over at UCLA and reversed the symptoms of Alzheimer's disease that led to a 200 person [00:57:00] study multicenter study which led to his book The End of Alzheimer's which by the way, no one in the mainstream pays attention to because let's face it Alzheimer disease has big big business.

[00:57:10] You don't want people not getting it. Let's look that's the truth. And so Dale bredesen is approach to reversing Alzheimer's wasn't a pill. It wasn't a drug at all.  It was multifactorial things that you have control on in your life that you're doing wrong that you start doing right now. Think about that for a second right right.

[00:57:34] Now if you talk to the average doctor.

[00:57:37] Adam Lamb: [00:57:37] It sounds like accountability Carl. Hold on.

[00:57:39] Carl Lanore: [00:57:39] Yeah, I know I know which really like we can get into a we can go off into the tangent where we could be talking about the population in the lack of accountability why everybody wants medicare-for-all and why that's going to fail but but I'm going to mention something about that.

[00:57:54] So. What Dale bredesen did was he put these people on HRT. [00:58:00] He got their sleep straightened out. He changed their diet to an anti-inflammatory diet. He had them start exercising sound familiar all the things we do in this audience and and and he used certain supplements and certain drugs and when you put it all together these people no longer have Alzheimer's disease now, do they still have.

[00:58:23] Beta amyloid plaque in the brain may be but they're not forgetting who they are. They're not forgetting what they did yesterday. They're back at work. They're functioning again. They're back to normal. So as far as I'm concerned that's curing Alzheimer disease. So Dale didn't say this one thing and this is true of stem cell to as you said before so eloquently if you put clean water in a rusty.

[00:58:48] Can you have Rusty. And HRT is critical because the foundation of Health starts on a cellular level and you just can't put stem cells into a body that's on [00:59:00] fire already and expect them to do anything at all. And so really you really need to this is a journey and a lot of people want to hear that but what you fail to realize is.

[00:59:10] If your body is effed up, it's the culmination of the past 20 years of bad decisions. You can't expect to walk in some place and go and that's this is what the pharmaceutical model preys on people F their bodies up over the course of 20 years, but they don't want to feel those symptoms and they want them to go in one day.

[00:59:28] So they give you stuff that makes a symptoms go away, but you're still broken and you're still complaining

[00:59:34] Adam Lamb: [00:59:34] when you bring it down you say hey, well, I'm sorry your neuropathy her. I'm going to give you a drug

[00:59:39] Carl Lanore: [00:59:39] or Gabapentin which is gonna f up your whole body. Give you give you seizures, but you won't feel that anymore but you're gonna feel a bunch of other stuff.

[00:59:46] Adam Lamb: [00:59:46] Yeah. Yeah, you probably won't feel anything anymore right it to me. Like when I think of that I'm like who who hit OK on that? Who was it? Like no. No, you guys got to do better than that. You know, really that's really what it should be [01:00:00] and but to your point to when you take accountability into it, like people don't want to change their lives.

[01:00:06] And so that's the sad part 2 because I see a lot of these burned-out Physicians that are like they're just what why should I even tell Carl to cut his sugars change weight eat skulls not going to do it. So I even lost faith that Society will make the change.

[01:00:21] Carl Lanore: [01:00:21] Well, here's

[01:00:23] Adam Lamb: [01:00:23] here's your bill.

[01:00:25] Carl Lanore: [01:00:25] Now.

[01:00:25] Let's talk about Medicaid for all.

[01:00:28] Adam Lamb: [01:00:28] Yeah.

[01:00:29] Carl Lanore: [01:00:29] So number one. There are the best doctors in the country. Don't take Medicaid today. If we shift to a government-funded single-payer healthcare plan the best doctors in the country and not going to take it. So you're going to be so you're going to be relegated to going to clinics and doctors who don't know really how to keep you healthy and then on top of that they're going to be constrained.

[01:00:57] By a $35 payment they get from the [01:01:00] government to see you to spend as little time with you as possible and put you on all the junk that they can put you on and get you out of

[01:01:06] Adam Lamb: [01:01:06] them. You're getting out as quick as possible.

[01:01:08] Carl Lanore: [01:01:08] If people were really concerned about health outcomes and not who's going to pay my bill Medicaid for all would never even be on the table as an option.

[01:01:18] Now what could be an option what could be an option an option could be to give people the ability? To write off what they spend on Healthcare 100% against their taxes imagine this imagine if you started going to a clinic that started doing stem cell and you had to write a check for 3,000 but you knew gonna get 3,000 off on your taxes altogether.

[01:01:41] Yeah.

[01:01:41] Adam Lamb: [01:01:41] Amen that is that to me is the most genius idea, but then guess who you're taking money away from

[01:01:48] Carl Lanore: [01:01:48] you taking money away from Big Pharma you taking money away from the insurance industry.

[01:01:51] Adam Lamb: [01:01:51] You know Uncle Sam

[01:01:52] Carl Lanore: [01:01:52] behind you're taking control away from see the reason

[01:01:56] Adam Lamb: [01:01:56] for your break because I spent so much money on my [01:02:00] health.

[01:02:01] You know, I joke with people with like it's a I spent gonna give me a hard time about what I eat. We're look cost 10 grand a year to do this like this just based on the hormones stuff and all the on the regular check-ups on the. All these out-of-pocket cash pay stub. I'm not waiting for ensure. I have insurance.

[01:02:19] I'm blessed every tree but glad my neck surgery right thing was like 70 grand and I was out of pocket, you know, maybe $5,000 but it wasn't anything anything crazy, right? The point being is I'm willing to spend the cash the most people that care about their health will pay their hard-earned dollar for have healthy solutions as opposed to some people that don't want to pay.

[01:02:44] $30 they want to use the system to give up something good like a quick fix write the ending cycle. So it's a challenging and I think to your point, which if that's one thing I love about your clinics Akash clinic [01:03:00] and I love that with the first thing when someone talks us, how can we help you?

[01:03:04] What's going on? What are your goals were pick up your phone and call any doctors office out there. They're like. Who's your insurance during the first

[01:03:12] Carl Lanore: [01:03:12] thing they ask they

[01:03:13] Adam Lamb: [01:03:13] don't care. They don't care what we

[01:03:15] Carl Lanore: [01:03:15] don't take. We don't take that and they hang up on

[01:03:18] Adam Lamb: [01:03:18] you. Okay, we'll give us that will verify your stuff and then we'll then you can will call you back.

[01:03:23] If they do call you back to schedule your appointment. Like what the hell kind of service is that and that's what started me to create this because I company essentially is it a service or a Management Service Organization for healthcare? To help doctors provide a great concierge style relationship patients and that's what we're rolling out.

[01:03:42] Here we go about the hormones or people without the stem cells and we're going to roll it out to really what the model we're actually creating is more of this lifestyle Health partner almost like a financial advisor, right? Like when you're young you start with your masseur put in my 401k now, I'm going to start putting into my kids fun.

[01:03:59] [01:04:00] Now I'm saving these different retirement Insurance. You're right. So we're actually creating. A company that manages all that stuff. So like when you're younger you get different goals now you're into the hormone set and that maybe now you're in that space where you need some regenerative. So so we're going to have this the clinic with the bigger picture of what I'm building is to do that Nationwide and we're going to cater to the people you and I just talked about the people that are willing to spend that money to have someone that's going to call in

[01:04:29] Carl Lanore: [01:04:29] who accept personal responsibility for their health, you know.

[01:04:34] When 50% of the population is obese today. It's 2020. That's remember seven eight years ago. We talked about on the show that the CDC said by 2020 50% of the population would be obese 50% of the population is obese 50% of the population is going to be the burden on the Health Care system because they make stupid decisions.

[01:04:53] They lack any self-control they're confused by misinformation about what diet is good. And what is bad? [01:05:00] In fact, they don't even care anymore.

[01:05:01] Adam Lamb: [01:05:01] Don't even understand why these two twins, once that attic the other ones not she's like yeah, we're going to work the biological Twins and she got the diabetes I did and I'm like, it's not you don't get it that way.

[01:05:13] Carl Lanore: [01:05:13] No, but they don't realize they have a

[01:05:15] Adam Lamb: [01:05:15] disposition, but you don't get it that way. It's you get type 2 diabetes through course of your

[01:05:20] Carl Lanore: [01:05:20] lifestyle. It's called and call in fact a decade ago. I started calling it acquired diabetes because you have to give it to. So you have to acquire it. It's not a disease.

[01:05:32] It's a it's a condition and so when you look at the picture of today. If 50% of the population is going to be standing on the shoulders of the other 50% of the population through health care because we're going to have to pay for their stupid horrible friggin lifestyle decisions. And we're going to have to pay for those then there's the people out there who take personal responsibility for their health and their outcome and they go Gina, I'll put on a couple pounds got to [01:06:00] change things.

[01:06:00] Got to drop some weight. Gotta get my sleep under control. Gotta go get my HRT. I gotta get my blood work done and we pay for all that stuff out. On pocket why because for some unknown reason we actually believe that if we have control in of our outcomes, we will fare better. And that's the truth

[01:06:19] Adam Lamb: [01:06:19] honor percent and you know to take it a step further on that is one of my clients guilty huge health care company and what you're saying is we're talking about things like Obamacare for what people may or may not understand is in order for a healthcare.

[01:06:34] Program to be successful 75% of the people have to opt in for right and that's in the current state. But if we're 50% of the people are obese and we're looking at these Health Challenge. It's getting great in your warm worst. People aren't getting better. It's getting worse. And so what's going to happen is that's actually going to change to work for like a help.

[01:06:57] Insurance companies are going to need more people [01:07:00] to opt-in to pick up like what you're talking about kind of the slack of the unhealthy crowd is going to cost so much more that either the premiums on the change or the policy pieces. That's why they want to go after like a mandate the hundred percent people because you need that many people to get in there.

[01:07:16] Yeah with the whole thing of why I like Obamacare didn't work some of the

[01:07:21] Carl Lanore: [01:07:21] things it look any system that unfairly burdens. Who make good decisions with the people's bad decisions is it's never going to work because then you're rewarding people to make bad decisions are going to make more and more bad decisions because they're laying it out, you know, if if people who had horrible Lifestyles paid what they should pay for their health insurance and people who have great Lifestyles paid what they should pay for the health insurance.

[01:07:51] The only people complaining about health insurance today would be the big fat unhealthy people. Because they'd be like, oh my God, my health insurance is $1,600 a [01:08:00] month. What's yours? Um - 350. Well, that's not fair. Well, actually it is because for the past 20 years I've taken good care of myself and I don't need the healthcare system to save me

[01:08:10] Adam Lamb: [01:08:10] what would happen though is that those people put primarily are also not in good financial situation.

[01:08:18] That's where you get this whole like,

[01:08:20] Carl Lanore: [01:08:20] you know, I'm done with all that stuff man. No, I agree with you. I agree with you, but I'm done. I'm done with that. You know what my father was a truck driver. My mother was a beautician. We lived in a three-room one-bedroom apartment four of us. You know, what they sent me to private school.

[01:08:35] They struggled they saved they bought a house they circled they saved they bought a bigger house. They saved every my mother used to collect the bread crumbs off the table and keep them in a paper bag and use them as the breadcrumbs and. Balls, so I don't care about people who make bad bad life decisions.

[01:08:52] You've that they have all the choices control on their lives. I'm not I don't want to have to rescue them.

[01:08:58] Adam Lamb: [01:08:58] Oh, no II don't I [01:09:00] totally get it. I think that it's it's the struggle between like the Compassionate Heart because I used to be big time that way and I think where I transition is, I'm like at the end of the day like my life is just better than there.

[01:09:14] My choice is unfortunately I probably have to Shell out extra taxes to help support them. But you know at the same time, you know, I got

[01:09:25] Carl Lanore: [01:09:25] no but no but no here's here's my help. I do this show. It's very tuned in follow the instructions. There you go. I love that. I don't want to have to pay you because you didn't

[01:09:37] Adam Lamb: [01:09:37] you are right.

[01:09:38] You're in a position where you are giving back? An opportunity for people to take the bull by the horns from their health if they want to I think that you're totally right. It's and I think your contributions and they I

[01:09:53] Carl Lanore: [01:09:53] gave I gave the analogy years ago and and people gay they get this the [01:10:00] only on only places where it's unfair the way they create their pricing is the healthcare industry and the airfare industry.

[01:10:07] That's. My friend Billy told me a cost $12,000 a year to transport one case of soda back and forth on an airplane. Right, we pay for that we pay for that in our ticket. We also pay for the guy who's a hundred pounds heavier than us in our ticket and I if I sat down in a restaurant next to you and you ordered the tuna melt and a glass of water and I ordered the lobster tail and a bottle of Dom and then the waitress came down the aisle and she stood between us and she looked at you and looked at me and she said to you we do things a little different at this restaurant.

[01:10:44] We are going to combine your two bills and split it in half, which means that. To be paying half for my meal and I be paying half for your meal which means that because I was mr. Big shot and had lobster tail and dumb you now have to pay half of my meal you would get up and [01:11:00] walk at UBC be like F this I'm not even paying my bill.

[01:11:03] Adam Lamb: [01:11:03] Oh sure. No, it's it's it is it's crazy. But then I think of there's just like.  There's the side of it like where you're like, you know what? Whatever, but I did it in your in your scenario there for sure, you know, and I'm by no means a subscriber to any of the Socialist things, but it's just I spent a ton of my life that way and I realize I'm like, you know what I wouldn't drink I look at this way when I trade shoes of those people.

[01:11:34] Nope, because you are most thankful for this is I'm smart enough to make those different decision negative live a much better life life.

[01:11:44] Carl Lanore: [01:11:44] You know, I'm going to leave it this and will end the show just this morning. It just so happened a good friend of mine that I grew up with. Well, you know how you could do on Facebook where you can say for my birthday donate money to this charity.

[01:11:55] Great, very popular right now. So it was Childhood Cancer [01:12:00] and I didn't donate because I don't donate money anymore to any of these causes because so many of them are ignoring emerging science. They're still going down that same failed path. They really don't care about reducing the diseases that they supposedly raised money for Susan be Coleman is a perfect example, most of the most of them put 10% into research.

[01:12:25] Stupid admit all the fees

[01:12:27] Adam Lamb: [01:12:27] All the Monies into the hoop rock.

[01:12:29] Carl Lanore: [01:12:29] Yeah. Oh, yeah, we're gonna have a 10k run. Yeah 10K and so and so I don't I don't donate anymore. So I see you know, what I really said I do when somebody in our circle is sick we bring food. We'll drive them to the doctor will spend time with them so that they get 100% of our support, but I'm done donating money and I'm not feeling so I'm not being guilted into it anymore either because you shoot

[01:12:54] Adam Lamb: [01:12:54] me it's and it is it's shitty thing that into things I'll say that so when I recently at a buddy of mine [01:13:00] who's like, hey, man, we donate to my GoFundMe and I'm like, what's up with it?

[01:13:03] He's like wow this you know bills are tired money site broke my ankle because he went he supposed to quit drinking went out drinking. Broke his ankle. He's supposed to be some quit drinking but I've kind of help that process and I'm like dude, there's people out there that they're freaking house burned down or their parents died in a car.

[01:13:19] Carl Lanore: [01:13:19] Yeah real problems right

[01:13:21] Adam Lamb: [01:13:21] away. I'm like you broke your ankle because you're being a drunk and like you still have pick up a phone and make money well going to make I can work with a broken heel so that kind of stuff. I'm on board but like at my church, for example where I'm very involved on Sunday.

[01:13:33] We had a community outreach where we hand out. Shoes backpacks and haircuts and all suffer for whom

[01:13:40] Carl Lanore: [01:13:40] the school started right

[01:13:41] Adam Lamb: [01:13:41] if you all right a fat check for that because I know that I'm I may be putting 250 shoes and backpacks and kids to go to school and that they can see that people love them and care about them that aren't their family and like food that moves me but to write a check for Joe schmo's you know, kids are fun type thing is [01:14:00] because it's a tougher thing for me to do because.

[01:14:02] It's the touch right like you. I have the pulse on my church through my pastor and like those I know where those dollars that I should I get to see it. So I write checks all day long, right but when it's something like hey Brett. You want to donate like when I cash out at the grocery store like

[01:14:18] Carl Lanore: [01:14:18] yeah around that the Roundup thing they go.

[01:14:20] Do you want to round up I go no, give me my change. Ha ha ha, you know, I'm sure they think oh what an ass he is, but not what I put my money where I want to put

[01:14:28] Adam Lamb: [01:14:28] it we both of us, I think spend time. Could I

[01:14:30] Carl Lanore: [01:14:30] get can I get a got a got stem cell t-shirt

[01:14:33] Adam Lamb: [01:14:33] good thing what size you want

[01:14:35] Carl Lanore: [01:14:35] double X double X.

[01:14:36] We're at man. I'll wear it to the gym. Okay,

[01:14:39] Adam Lamb: [01:14:39] another do there try try but I don't buy cheap sure you all

[01:14:43] Carl Lanore: [01:14:43] know know. Double x man, I'll wear it all day. I wear it on the air. I wear it on the air. You see I do this can't

[01:14:48] Adam Lamb: [01:14:48] what? All right, man.

[01:14:50] Carl Lanore: [01:14:50] I look talk to you next we actually going to be on again next week because we missed last week so welcome back to back if you have so listen those of you who listen to the show.

[01:14:58] If you have a topic you want us to [01:15:00] cover send it to on are at superhuman radio dotnet and we will cover it next time Adam Lamb ReNew Life RX. Check it out. Get healthy get strong live long and give everybody out there the big middle finger. So that they know queue because you want to give them you want to give the government a big middle finger live to be a hundred.

[01:15:19] That's the way to do it. I see everybody tomorrow. Thanks a lot [01:16:00] .