[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. Today is Thursday, which means the today is the ReNew Life RX show with my co-host Adam Lamb who join me in just a second. I have to say today is September 12th 2019 for those of you actually listening to this show. In 3011. I know you're going wow.
[00:00:22] I can't believe these guys know they were talking about all the way back then but yes, it's true. We did and with that. The first step to changing your life starts with the ReNew Life Show with Adam lamp. Got
[00:00:41] it. I got it. We made the tail on that music a little too long for my liking. How you doing Adam.
[00:00:46] Adam Lamb: [00:00:46] What's
[00:00:47] Carl Lanore: [00:00:47] going on? I'm good.
[00:00:48] Adam Lamb: [00:00:48] How are you?
[00:00:48] Carl Lanore: [00:00:48] Wonderful. Wonderful. So this is decaffeinated Carl. I'm off caffeine. I'm off caffeine again.
[00:00:56] Adam Lamb: [00:00:56] Yeah, you got on the. The doctor seems [00:01:00] chill pill
[00:01:01] Carl Lanore: [00:01:01] no. No, but I've I may as well be because I'm completely decaffeinated three days ago.
[00:01:07] I stopped caffeine again. It got too crazy. I literally, you know, what a bang energy drink is
[00:01:14] Adam Lamb: [00:01:14] yeah. I've never had one but I know
[00:01:16] Carl Lanore: [00:01:16] they've got between three and four hundred milligrams of combined, you know caffeine and and you'll him being and all that sort of stuff. I
[00:01:22] Adam Lamb: [00:01:22] can't touch that. I'll be like crap down.
[00:01:24] Look at that a rave.
[00:01:25] Carl Lanore: [00:01:25] I had three of those before my show on Monday.
[00:01:28] Adam Lamb: [00:01:28] You have a heart you have a heart attack. What 900 milligrams of caffeine in a short amount of time Jodi at Walnut? I mean unless you're super. You
[00:01:37] Carl Lanore: [00:01:37] still
[00:01:39] Adam Lamb: [00:01:39] there
[00:01:40] Carl Lanore: [00:01:40] might be some
[00:01:41] Adam Lamb: [00:01:41] crank soon.
[00:01:42] Carl Lanore: [00:01:42] But you know what? It didn't do anything. The reason I had three is because the first one didn't do anything the second one didn't do anything.
[00:01:51] I was like man, I gotta get I gotta wake up for today's show and I had a third one right before the show. And I did feel a little bit. But after that I thought to myself. [00:02:00] Okay here I am again. Look, I have an addict mentality. There's no doubt in my mind about it, right but for me stimuli stimulants have always been the thing that attracted me when I was a young man, it was always uppers and.
[00:02:15] And math and stuff like that that I was more attracted to you than my friends who were taking Quaaludes and to naul's and second all's and slobbering on themselves in the corner. I want to be I want. Oh, man, I can drink more I can talk more I can dance more. So I was a cocaine guy, you know, I like stems and caffeine is something that I have had a love-hate relationship with the past 20 years now.
[00:02:39] And I've abused it. I mean I've you know, and this isn't the first time I've abused it and my audience is let you know Shawn could earn Shield who has become a close friend of mine through the show. I told him the other day I said, that's it Shawn. I'm done. No more caffeine. He goes. Okay. Carl will be having this conversation again in three months he goes.
[00:02:58] Adam Lamb: [00:02:58] You know, I had that [00:03:00] 23andMe DNA testing done in one of the things one of the markers so that I'm a process Kathy fast. I have large amounts in a short amount of time. It really makes me feel uncomfortable and even you know that supplement company. I have to we never talk about but it really made load.
[00:03:20] Oh, it's 200 milligrams of caffeine and the Pre-Workout just because anything more than that like you say 3400. Scares the hell out of me from a too much standpoint, but I can drink a cup of coffee and take a nap 30 minutes almost like I had just warm decaffeinated.
[00:03:36] Carl Lanore: [00:03:36] Yeah, I could never do
[00:03:37] Adam Lamb: [00:03:37] that,
[00:03:38] Carl Lanore: [00:03:38] but I can't do that.
[00:03:40] So anyway, this is decaffeinated Carl. Hope you enjoy them. I hope I'm as witty and my recall is not affected. But anyway, so we have two good things. We're going to talk about today first. We're going to talk about injectibles. Vitamins because she's become, you know used to be there used to be a time where you can only get injectable vitamins at your dock right?
[00:03:59] You [00:04:00] had to know I got to go to the doctor my B12 shot.
[00:04:02] Adam Lamb: [00:04:02] That was a that's all you write any was sciatica ball on the crappy stuff, right method Kabbalah and I know pronounce that wrong but in no one really knew the difference and now especially Wide Web there's all these drips pause and things like that.
[00:04:21] And it's neat. You know, it's cool the top from a Time standpoint. There's a challenge of going making appointment getting a little Myers cocktail or something like that The Hangover, you know, like if you're hung over something like that. I should some friends that live in Vegas there pmt's and these guys go out party.
[00:04:42] And they have a battle back hook. I need side of the bed their roommates the right foot each other on a on a bag of
[00:04:49] Carl Lanore: [00:04:49] IV an IV drip. Yeah.
[00:04:50] Adam Lamb: [00:04:50] Okay great ready for bed and wake up feel great. That's pretty good. We do those I do them regularly and we could dive into each one to things like move. Your thigh [00:05:00] on be complex.
[00:05:01] Nothing could
[00:05:02] Carl Lanore: [00:05:02] be the B complex is the most interesting to me. So for years, I looked for a B-Complex injection, and I couldn't find one back then. That had a either methyl or what's the other one that I like? But anyway, they all they had was cyano cobalamin in them. And I didn't want those talk about the B complex first.
[00:05:21] I'm interested in that.
[00:05:22] Adam Lamb: [00:05:22] Yeah, it's the B complex that we work with is like a true B complex in the sense of it doesn't have B12 in it because that's the readily available and it's got B1 B2 B3 B5 B6. And you know,
[00:05:37] Carl Lanore: [00:05:37] that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:05:38] Adam Lamb: [00:05:38] Yeah, it's really good. And if there's some other thing, you know, there's so many other things that I'm not as aware of is like the docker are our docs or like really they love this because they know to do what we do and be in the space that we are.
[00:05:52] We're not like a drug pushing mindset. We are more of a natural as possible, but there's certain things you just. Can't [00:06:00] accomplish but the the injectable vitamin stuff that can help go through your system as if you're a bad absorber or things like that, you know, you're literally pissing your money away and injectable process you need.
[00:06:13] It just works better
[00:06:15] Carl Lanore: [00:06:15] when you know, you know something interesting you talk. Sometimes you learn things when you're not expecting to learn things, right? So, I'm a Hunter and I was looking at the nutritional value of eating heart. Okay, so I'm like what's in heart and you can actually find this information for cows heart, but the heart has the highest Reservoir B vitamins.
[00:06:43] It has carnitine high levels of carnitine when you look at. What the nutritional value of eating the Flesh of heart you recognize what you need [00:07:00] what your body what your heart wants to function properly?
[00:07:04] Adam Lamb: [00:07:04] Yeah, it makes sense as everything has to flow their flows through it. So it makes sense that the concentration there of that but you know be one is something.
[00:07:15] And it's what's the other diamine or something like D1 that other version of the name of it? It's super important and it's often neglected from from a brain health standpoint, especially for those, you know, I don't drink actually just last Thursday was three years since I quit drinking alcohol, but I was highly focused because my father had was an alcoholic you really struggle with alcohol and he ended up dying eventually.
[00:07:43] Alcohol dementia, which was destroying the frontal lobe of his brain. And the number one thing that could have helped him is be one.
[00:07:51] Carl Lanore: [00:07:51] Really.
[00:07:52] Adam Lamb: [00:07:52] Yeah, the B1 vitamin is so crucial for cognitive function to just beat the process the health of [00:08:00] what that brain your brain needs of memory all kinds of stuff.
[00:08:03] And so but be one is it's often neglected try to look and try to find it. The by looking at the store or something like that. It's very hard to find to there's not a ton of research. But when you do look into it, you're like holy cow. This is super valuable
[00:08:18] Carl Lanore: [00:08:18] show the B Complex injection. What does that cost?
[00:08:21] Somebody if they want
[00:08:23] Adam Lamb: [00:08:23] that I would double check. It's might be a couple hundred dollars, but in the last six months.
[00:08:28] Carl Lanore: [00:08:28] Oh, so it's a nice vial of it.
[00:08:30] Adam Lamb: [00:08:30] Right? Right. So you figured I'd be doing 1 ml twice a week for. You're 15 weeks or 20 weeks. It just depends on the dough. So it's it in the B complex.
[00:08:42] Some of them are refrigerated glutathione refrigerated mythical bonds refrigerated but be like lipo leave the special so we have occur, especially the Mi see with L-Carnitine B1 B5 that doesn't have to be complex doesn't have to be I would arrive at from count. [00:09:00] There's even a try and me know. That helps for blood flow obviously, but it helped it's the same things that are pre workout with Arginine citrulline.
[00:09:07] And I'm no nominee. You may know what I'm talking about struggling pepper.
[00:09:13] Carl Lanore: [00:09:13] It's an amino acid. Yeah.
[00:09:16] Adam Lamb: [00:09:16] Yeah, it's called priming on it and it helps with blood flow so you can do it just for General Health with blood flow because you have to live under a rock to not know how could blood flow is right?
[00:09:26] It's right. I think for myself I start using it. In my Cavalry, I don't have good blood flow to my tabs into my feet. All right, so if you're somebody gets cold feet and those kind of things if they can help increase that in that area, but we can also take a milliliter before you go exercise. Go to the gym get it better pump than popping powder pre-workout down as well
[00:09:47] Carl Lanore: [00:09:47] the others.
[00:09:48] I think a lot of people don't understand the value of injectable amino acids, and I'll tell you why I say that so back in 2007 I had. A sponsor on this show that was a [00:10:00] peptide guy. He was from Florida and he started sending me vials of EAS in life alized form essential amino acids, and he said start injecting he I forget how much was in one vial but I thought to myself this is nothing I can take 30 grams of that or orally.
[00:10:22] Why would I want to be bothered injecting this little bit. Of this amino acid, right but they're there science has shown that what what you inject into the bloodstream seems to have some sort of different effect than what you're taking orally and it's getting in through the digestive tract.
[00:10:41] Adam Lamb: [00:10:41] Well because your bloodstream doesn't have a preference as far as like how he absorbs it what's in your that's kind of in your bloodstream and to give an example.
[00:10:52] In a separate topic is is we're always pounding people to get their HDL. Ah, right so [00:11:00] you could say man. I'm drinking I'm eating avocados doing MCT oil taking fish oil, but guess what if your stomach doesn't digest that stuff properly and you're just
[00:11:13] Carl Lanore: [00:11:13] an absorbent
[00:11:14] Adam Lamb: [00:11:14] that you're not using.
[00:11:15] Carl Lanore: [00:11:15] Yeah, we're living in a world.
[00:11:16] We're living our world. We're living in a world of well-fed. But nutritionally deficient people today because of their guts.
[00:11:25] Adam Lamb: [00:11:25] Yeah, you said that broccoli and so you get to bypass that from the injection and you're talking you're talking an insulin syringe, you know, just a little small I am we're not doing 23 gauge loading up.
[00:11:37] I mean, it's nothing
[00:11:38] Carl Lanore: [00:11:38] like that intramuscular, right?
[00:11:40] Adam Lamb: [00:11:40] It's up. There are water based or water-based products so they can flow through a
[00:11:43] Carl Lanore: [00:11:43] small. I remember when I first started using injectable B12 the methyl cobalamin. It says that it requires an intramuscular injection and I talked to my doctor I said why I said, why would I need to put this in a muscle?
[00:11:59] Why can't I [00:12:00] put it under the fat? It's a still a Depo. It's still going to get picked up by the blood he goes. Well, that's the way they, you know, taught us in medical school. That's the way I doctors prescribe it and so I just started doing it under the skin he goes. Well, you may get some bluing because it's got that purplish color.
[00:12:15] Adam Lamb: [00:12:15] That's the only reason that we prefer like our dots will say do I am just because some people are more sensitive will get a little fatty thing or they'll get like the little lump will be there for a few days. And if you've never given yourself an injection of anything before it might freak you out right that what does it it done plenty of injections.
[00:12:34] We've seen everything from blood squirt across the room and all kinds of stuff that like, it doesn't bother you. And so the Sub-Q we rarely. Suggest but yes, it can be sometimes there's certain there's certain ones that can burn a bit more certain ones that I'll leave. Like you said a Mark or something like that depending on what the compound is, but rarely do we see that when we do just those small intramuscular just you know, [00:13:00] we have Diane schutz.
[00:13:01] I've been in you know, and I'll do them like if I'm traveling, you know, I know that maybe I'm traveling tomorrow or something like that and glutathione be tried to boost my immune system. Before I heard out my and it just works and there's plenty of times. I feel like I'm coming down with something and I'll do an extra, you know glutathione on ejection and Bam
[00:13:23] Carl Lanore: [00:13:23] how many milligrams of glutathione is that true
[00:13:25] Adam Lamb: [00:13:25] injecting we usually get between a hundred two hundred milligrams.
[00:13:29] Yeah, and I've seen and it's better to do it. I had a person one time that was doing they're doing the 25 milligrams every single day. Every day and that can be bad because it can change how your body is creating glutathione itself, right that will profits and deliver things like that. So hitting it a couple times is good, but when it comes to the vitamin stuff, you know, it helps you from being deficient.
[00:13:58] There's even a vitamin D injections. We don't [00:14:00] do them as much the absorption but you know, it brings up a good point. I'm thinking about it, but we do see we see people that are taking. Lots of vitamin D orally and their vitamin D like just barely budges, you know, he hates that might be something we need to look into a bit more.
[00:14:16] Carl Lanore: [00:14:16] No there is not but however, there is a fantastic glutathione liposomal.
[00:14:23] Adam Lamb: [00:14:23] So I tried it but yeah live
[00:14:26] Carl Lanore: [00:14:26] on Labs they're responsible as they have the best. In fact, there's a they did a study with it and showed that it increased. I'll glutathione storage in the liver so we know it works too. But yeah live a live on labs.com.
[00:14:41] I don't have the glutathione and I was just taking my my magnesium that my life is so magnesium that I get from them.
[00:14:49] Adam Lamb: [00:14:49] No, we have we have an objection to that. It's called for calm injection and it's got magnesium taurine Gaba and be anything or [00:15:00] thinning. Yeah, Danny. And that works pretty well, too to you know, a it kind of relaxes you chose you out.
[00:15:07] But also it's giving you some of those minerals that you better helpful.
[00:15:14] Carl Lanore: [00:15:14] So do you allow people to take this stuff home and inject themselves or this is here.
[00:15:20] Adam Lamb: [00:15:20] That's the whole concept behind it is that it's self.
[00:15:24] Carl Lanore: [00:15:24] What are the most popular injectable vitamins that you see people buying right now? I would have to imagine the B complex.
[00:15:31] I want the B complex by the way. Yeah, I
[00:15:34] Adam Lamb: [00:15:34] want the methylcobalamin B12 is number one. We have people that just do that with us that because you know, there's certain foods that you said but there's so many of us that are well fed, but nutrition deficient, you know, I mean in in a lot of the people we work with.
[00:15:52] They're not going to remember to take your vitamins Nothing is for schedules crazy and they just there on planes four times five times a [00:16:00] week. It's like immune system is important like from the first layer of why we do this is when your body gets deficient your body is weak. We by week the body becomes vulnerable to more problems and like a lot of our clients.
[00:16:14] They don't get sick, you know because of their new system stays up and who do you think I am really fine powerful and cats? Especially like if you're a regular kind of getting after the alcohol in things like so it's really go back and answer your question. The mythical ball is slide. Number one glutathione is number two number three essays that that m.i.c.
[00:16:35] L-Carnitine be one comp because it helps burn fat. If you have a fatty liver 20 conferencing is awesome for getting in the throughout that fatty liver and a lot of times we see guys. Yes, and this is some fucking wasn't it? Yes, sometimes your liver levels to be elevated from working out. But usually there's if it's consistent you're going to [00:17:00] mean like if you didn't work out for 10 days and we looked closer.
[00:17:02] So I you had some sort of underlying issue that might have e massive urgent but there could be a little bit of a fatty liver delivers that faucets and properly and that's where a good glutathione nothing. We've always been able to fix with glutathione and like. Am I see L carnitine type injection not to mention like not getting sick and then I think the try and he knows actually really popular a lot of guys that like that pre-workout.
[00:17:31] If
[00:17:31] Carl Lanore: [00:17:31] you do you feel it the try me know
[00:17:33] Adam Lamb: [00:17:33] for the up standpoint. Well
[00:17:35] Carl Lanore: [00:17:35] from any standpoint, is it energized does it? I don't
[00:17:38] Adam Lamb: [00:17:38] know I've never met now. I don't believe energized just because I've done you know, I'm always experimenting with things and world. I'll stop taking a free workout and I'll do daily Cialis the correlogram 3 milligram Cialis before I went to the gym see how that is compared to the Pre-Workout and then see how just doing the Try Me Now by itself [00:18:00] and the try Minos phenomenal, you know, I mean, there's there's it works really really well, but they're not essential amino acids that you know, but there are bonus buy for blowpro things like that as well.
[00:18:14] So. It's something and there it's an incredibly expensive by big $150 for almost six months worth right here. Three months worth
[00:18:23] Carl Lanore: [00:18:23] Cialis is good for reversing non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Well, oh hell yeah.
[00:18:30] Adam Lamb: [00:18:30] Oh, yeah
[00:18:30] Carl Lanore: [00:18:30] pde5 Inhibitors. If you take them chronically, they will reduce the fat storage in the liver dramatically
[00:18:37] Adam Lamb: [00:18:37] in the studies behind for that little that's that's one thing.
[00:18:41] Our positions especially a medical director Super PAC that they come that's like the super drunk that they think everybody over 40 should be taking a daily self daily to that because the health benefits are so good you need from what pregnant drop in blood pressure. I mean we've seen guys come [00:19:00] off blood pressure medication and they take a daily Cialis that better erections and they don't have to get up momentum of the best.
[00:19:06] Right? What? Yeah, Yeah, so yeah, we like that stuff to just it's allowing people to really take advantage of their health more than just being all about the testosterone right in consider because it's a falling
[00:19:23] Carl Lanore: [00:19:23] faster own is important but obviously, but that's the physical layers to this than just that.
[00:19:29] Adam Lamb: [00:19:29] Yeah, and that's why we look at all that layer of the levels of blood work and one of the rules we have at the clinic is that. When you're healthy you're in charge when you're not healthy weren't charged right meaning that like if your blood works good and you're healthy and you know, like you want people want here.
[00:19:46] So that's what we'll hire those kind of things sure. But if you're a mess or charge, you know me what's on exactly what has because your health is most important in part of doing these injectable vitamins knowing that they're available and you [00:20:00] know, what there that's more cost-effective than going to.
[00:20:05] ID place now there's with that being said there's certain things with one of those with IV place like every now and then I'll do it the 50,000 milligram vitamin C IV, you know through it you can't do that.
[00:20:18] Carl Lanore: [00:20:18] Does that make you feel warm when you do it?
[00:20:20] Adam Lamb: [00:20:20] It doesn't know it. So here's something really important anyone watching this and thinking about doing high dose vitamin C.
[00:20:27] And I don't remember the test off the top of my head, but we can look it up for you. I might be able to apply blood work. There's a blood thing. It said that GH something like G H6 b or something like that that needs to be tested prior to doing high dose vitamin C for you can get yourself into trouble from a health standpoint and not a lot of places know it and that's how I would.
[00:20:53] Approach knowing a really good grip spa place right there if you ask them. Hey, is there any tests at [00:21:00] that prior to a high dose vitamin C and if there isn't that's not the place you want that right my go-to if it is, let me see if I have it here on this lab working life. Yes G6PD
[00:21:13] Carl Lanore: [00:21:13] be like boy. Do you like David?
[00:21:16] Jeez
[00:21:16] Adam Lamb: [00:21:16] and George thing? P as in Paul the David
[00:21:21] Carl Lanore: [00:21:21] P ju
[00:21:23] Adam Lamb: [00:21:23] in if that level is normal, your body is susceptible to taking that high dose of vitamin C. If it's not you will be sick and feel like crap if it's like really really low or non-existent it you won't take it in. It's one of those things that like.
[00:21:42] I didn't know most people don't know but the fact that the diet the drip place that I'll go to knows that I talk to, you know called all these other places, you know looking for price wise things like that and that those guys knew that I didn't know that so I knew right off the I was like that's the people you want to work with is the people that kind of know the most so that's something [00:22:00] that's important and you can't do that.
[00:22:02] You know NAD is something we're looking at new into the NAD.
[00:22:06] Carl Lanore: [00:22:06] I've been using it. I've been using it now
[00:22:07] Adam Lamb: [00:22:07] injectable.
[00:22:09] Carl Lanore: [00:22:09] Yeah, I'm just taking 50 milligrams at a time. Okay. And I feel it I feel so I've heard that you everybody has their own sweet spot. And when you feel really sick and tired that means you've taken too much.
[00:22:27] You've got to back it down. I've never felt sick and tired from it, but I definitely feel tingly and a little I don't know how to put it, you know, I don't know. Maybe it's a little drop of blood sugar that I'm feeling. I don't know but I feel I feel it when I take it and if I take it too late, I won't sleep.
[00:22:45] Well, I know that for a fact I've day. I've taken it too late a couple times
[00:22:49] Adam Lamb: [00:22:49] and I always take it with wasabi. The friend and business partner of mine has a patented process with NAD orally the tape because
[00:22:59] Carl Lanore: [00:22:59] it's okay. [00:23:00] I'm taking the injectable. I'm sorry. I'm in
[00:23:02] Adam Lamb: [00:23:02] dire something either try the injectable, but I want to and it's something we may be implementing those days.
[00:23:09] I know that we're looking into it. We have people doing it for me. Usually, I'm the first guinea pig, but I'm not and then once we find that good. All the stuff everybody feels on board with stuff. That's when we roll things out. So I know that they're working on and have been since I think people just to see, you know get but finding out this is.
[00:23:29] Does everybody have a different Sweet Spot? How do they need we need to go sit by?
[00:23:32] Carl Lanore: [00:23:32] Yeah. I mean, I know I was at the international peptide Society Symposium and I was having lunch with some people and the the subject of injectable NAD came up and I just happened to mention I was about to start it.
[00:23:45] And so this one guy who has one of those Spas where people don't want to get IVs. He says they'll give people a hundred milligrams but over the course of. Like a few hours like you got to sit there for a few [00:24:00] hours, but he said if you take a hundred milligrams in one shot you you know, you're going to feel like your hair's on fire.
[00:24:08] I said like he was but what he meant was you're not going to feel good. You're going to feel like something's
[00:24:15] Adam Lamb: [00:24:15] wrong. So
[00:24:16] Carl Lanore: [00:24:16] I'm taking 50 at a time. I feels fine actually took some this morning. I'm just doing I'm doing a hundred milligrams a week a hundred milligrams a week.
[00:24:24] Adam Lamb: [00:24:24] I am her so cute
[00:24:25] Carl Lanore: [00:24:25] I am. I'm not me.
[00:24:26] No Sub-Q so cute.
[00:24:27] Adam Lamb: [00:24:27] Yeah.
[00:24:29] Carl Lanore: [00:24:29] Yeah. I mean it's life alized you put some you know bacteriostatic water or I've learned so I've always used bacteriostatic sodium chloride solution because I was told a long time ago by that guy. That was a sponsor that that peptide stayed the most stable in that and that is true with some peptide but not all and then I went to.
[00:24:54] Just plain old bacteriostatic water. Well what I've found out now from people that are [00:25:00] working within the peptide Community is that injectable water sterile injectable water is the best thing for peptides. They stay the most stable the longest than
[00:25:11] Adam Lamb: [00:25:11] that
[00:25:12] Carl Lanore: [00:25:12] that little bit of benzyl alcohol that they create the bacteriostatic environment and.
[00:25:19] May actually degrade the peptides faster and that's already we found out true all false already about some things like test Marilyn the.
[00:25:31] Adam Lamb: [00:25:31] with
[00:25:32] Carl Lanore: [00:25:32] that
[00:25:34] Adam Lamb: [00:25:34] we mix that it's there are water.
[00:25:36] Carl Lanore: [00:25:36] That's the best Fort at Sea. So if you're doing business with tailor-made. You're using sterile water for injection.
[00:25:43] But if you're not doing business with tailor-made, they giving you sodium chloride solution bacteriostatic and and because that's what they also give with HGH. So if you got it, I mean HCG if you get the HCG vile that's sodium chloride for injection its bacteriostatic. [00:26:00] Well it last the test Morel and last longer in just the plain sterile water like way longer like.
[00:26:09] It would taken out of a refrigerator or months later and it was still pretty much a hundred percent.
[00:26:14] Adam Lamb: [00:26:14] That's crazy.
[00:26:15] Carl Lanore: [00:26:15] So, you know what you use to reconstitute these peptides as
[00:26:20] Adam Lamb: [00:26:20] emember back in my body building days without way. It's an igf-1. And in order to keep it like two weeks in the fridge
[00:26:28] Carl Lanore: [00:26:28] cetyl alcohol.
[00:26:29] I mean, I see the last see ya dude. I remember I was gonna say I remember doing some of that stuff it was like, I didn't even want to like so back then before this is before lr3, you're talking about before just yeah, igf-1, right? So what igf-1 was first introduced it was so expensive number one.
[00:26:48] Adam Lamb: [00:26:48] Yeah. Number
[00:26:49] Carl Lanore: [00:26:49] two. It came with a little vial of acetic acid, which is basically. Just for the record, right? It's undiluted [00:27:00] vinegar because the vinegar you drink is only 10% 20% so you can drink it. So this is like just 100% vinegar and sterile for injection. And they said you had to use that and then you had to put it back in the freezer to you had to keep it frozen and because it didn't freeze in the acetic acid.
[00:27:18] So you have to keep it in the freezer to and so. it burns so bad. It was like a thousand wasps stung view in one spot and it didn't go away for like 10 or 15 minutes. It felt like that
[00:27:34] Adam Lamb: [00:27:34] arms of the biggest hit ever been at they like my pump wouldn't go away right? 24/7. I felt like my arms were going to tear my skin.
[00:27:45] And like my shirt at the same time that stuff was that stuff is crazy.
[00:27:49] Carl Lanore: [00:27:49] No, you
[00:27:50] Adam Lamb: [00:27:50] go in and do like eight curls. It was like booop
[00:27:52] Carl Lanore: [00:27:52] good that that was what I was getting to you had a site inject that so they would like look of your friend biceps. You gotta inject in your biceps and that stuff [00:28:00] Burns. So effing bad.
[00:28:03] Adam Lamb: [00:28:03] You're more sore from the shot that you were work out, which
[00:28:06] Carl Lanore: [00:28:06] is making me wonder. I'm wondering if you reason we felt so pumped with because the acetic acid and not the idea of. I
[00:28:13] Adam Lamb: [00:28:13] don't know those said some people start shooting soda and vinegar. We don't want that happen. But I remember that stuff and I remember the number one.
[00:28:21] It was expensive. But it also just like you got sick of injecting yourself. Is it? I
[00:28:26] Carl Lanore: [00:28:26] regret I regret it. I like I would I would obsess over all God. I'm gonna train, you know arms tomorrow. I gotta inject that stuff in my biceps and triceps.
[00:28:36] Adam Lamb: [00:28:36] Yeah, that's what it was going. Like yeah, it's all about us and tried to take my car.
[00:28:40] I
[00:28:40] Carl Lanore: [00:28:40] was only using a hundred 50 micrograms a day, but I was depending on what body part. I split it up into shots depending on what muscles I want that a hit but at a hundred 50 micrograms a day, I noticed changes in my physique.
[00:28:54] Adam Lamb: [00:28:54] Yeah, there's guys like that and experience that are new that [00:29:00] and then you know when they're looking at igf-1 lr3.
[00:29:04] Through the compound pharmacy like their mindsets still like I got to do it in there and it's a totally different experience. There's actually quite a bit. There's still get a really great pump from igf-1, but you don't have to spot eject from now on three
[00:29:19] Carl Lanore: [00:29:19] now the 003 stays active in your body for what's a few days right?
[00:29:24] I mean is it that I
[00:29:25] Adam Lamb: [00:29:25] think it keeps it 26 hours or 10 hours. Was that but if you're doing it daily supports pretty well, that was something you know, that's a good transition into part of the conversation. We want to have in reference to that study that came out.
[00:29:40] Carl Lanore: [00:29:40] Well, then I want to take a break and come back and talk about that.
[00:29:42] Adam Lamb: [00:29:42] Okay, we'll talk about
[00:29:43] Carl Lanore: [00:29:43] yeah, because this is got this is going to be good. And you know, I have a funny feeling that the discussion isn't going to be what people think it is.
[00:29:51] Adam Lamb: [00:29:51] Yeah,
[00:29:52] Carl Lanore: [00:29:52] that's what I think so stay tuned you listening to the ReNew Life RX show be right back. What the [00:30:00] heck is
[00:30:08] that? Did you hear that noise?
[00:30:14] Adam Lamb: [00:30:14] Like a whistling,
[00:30:14] Carl Lanore: [00:30:14] no sounds like somebody was clearing their throat a thousand times, but was it me anyway, okay, it's gone. Now, whatever was I so let's talk about this. Let me try don't have something. What is that? Do you hear that? What the heck is that?
[00:30:39] Okay, hold on. Yeah, I know.
[00:30:41] Adam Lamb: [00:30:41] It
[00:30:42] Carl Lanore: [00:30:42] sounds like somebody was clearing her
[00:30:44] Adam Lamb: [00:30:44] throat
[00:30:44] Carl Lanore: [00:30:44] a thousand times to me
[00:30:48] Adam Lamb: [00:30:48] anyway, okay.
[00:30:50] Carl Lanore: [00:30:50] Talk about this. It's you hear Do you hear that Adam? It's like feedback. Hold on a second. Hold on a
[00:30:57] Adam Lamb: [00:30:57] second.
[00:31:00] [00:31:07] Carl Lanore: [00:31:07] Okay. Are you there?
[00:31:09] Adam Lamb: [00:31:09] I'm here. I
[00:31:10] have
[00:31:10] Carl Lanore: [00:31:10] no idea what that was. That was like a ghost. I was like that was feedback of us. It was coming back at did you hear it?
[00:31:18] Adam Lamb: [00:31:18] Yeah,
[00:31:19] Carl Lanore: [00:31:19] that's just crazy. I have to edit that out somehow of the podcast. Let me just Mark the time 12:35. Okay, so recently a study had gone around the internet the interweb that claim that a cocktail of drugs could actually reverse aging everybody read it.
[00:31:41] You said it was on forbes.com
[00:31:43] Adam Lamb: [00:31:43] only they said by like two and a half years, which is unique how they measure it. and I don't know if that's like continually, you know, like. You know what? I mean? Like if I do something for one year does it not two and a half [00:32:00] years off because I'll sign up for that
[00:32:03] Carl Lanore: [00:32:03] well, but see his here's the problem with all of these studies and I have a great analogy.
[00:32:08] I actually thought about this well in
[00:32:09] Adam Lamb: [00:32:09] diving into it real quick. There's nine people
[00:32:13] Carl Lanore: [00:32:13] nine people in the study. Yeah. Yeah, and I know wasn't a big study. It wasn't a long study what they looked for was changes in DNA. That's all they look for changes in DNA. And this is looking for these changes in DNA and saying oh we're reversing aging.
[00:32:35] Is tantamount to okay. So if you've ever been in a hot rod, right everybody hot rod hot rod: okay, and so you know that when you're racing. And your car starts getting up into higher RPMs. There's a amazing vibration in the car. Right and you're going a hundred forty miles an hour [00:33:00] because you're vibrating the wind against the car the road and the car is vibrating and you're moving a hundred forty miles an hour.
[00:33:06] So does that mean if I sit you in a chair and vibrate you to that same degree? Are you moving a hundred forty miles an hour?
[00:33:15] Adam Lamb: [00:33:15] No. No, you're
[00:33:16] Carl Lanore: [00:33:16] just sitting in a chair vibrating.
[00:33:18] Adam Lamb: [00:33:18] Right, but if you're moving at that
[00:33:20] Carl Lanore: [00:33:20] Summit over my my point my point is this when you look at the experience of a hot rod going down the the speedway, there's all these things happening including the vibrating including the speed including gas consumption including heat including sound these people are looking at one thing and going.
[00:33:40] Oh look this change and that would be equivalent to me putting you in a chair and vibrating you and saying this is how much you would vibrate if. To 170 miles an hour on the speedway, but you're not moving. You're not doing this anymore than our I'll
[00:33:52] Adam Lamb: [00:33:52] make a similar analogy to would be like putting you in a flight simulator and you're feeling all the effects of it, but you're [00:34:00] not actually in an airplane in the air.
[00:34:02] Yeah. Look
[00:34:03] Carl Lanore: [00:34:03] at looking at this thing. That is basically a barcode on your DNA. and and saying that. It is part of it because it is part of what we see in aging that this means we are now altering the aging process in a human being. It's just not true. It's not true. I wish it was look at me. I wish you why would look I've been taking DHEA and growth hormone for decades.
[00:34:34] Adam Lamb: [00:34:34] But you look good.
[00:34:36] Carl Lanore: [00:34:36] Well, you're right. I mean, maybe I'd be in a lot worse shape if I did
[00:34:40] Adam Lamb: [00:34:40] before but here still
[00:34:41] Carl Lanore: [00:34:41] but there's no but there's so much more than I do. I get proper sleep. I eat a certain way. I trained
[00:34:48] Adam Lamb: [00:34:48] you didn't always right you were in the red a lot of Your Love. Yeah, they made better decisions.
[00:34:58] So I think that you know, I had a [00:35:00] guy the client on Friday come in 94 years old the dude look 72. Surface with I mean, he's he was on pay he did his research on stem cells and we were just talking like he knew his stuff and I was like, yeah, that's awesome. And he's like, I just want to live over man and I'm like, whatever you're doing you're doing good.
[00:35:19] But the same thing that goes, you know at the end of the day from birth to death. Typically, it's just a degenerative process, right and we can alter the mechanics in that. It could add to measure the when they say at 2.5 years to your life. That's the stuff run like hold on. How can you measure that?
[00:35:42] All right, even with our Clinic, you know, a lot of clinics like ours our Age Management anti-aging clinics. You'll never hear her say that because I don't believe it. That you're not stopping time that I mean 30 minutes goes 30 minutes ago.
[00:35:59] Carl Lanore: [00:35:59] There's still there's still [00:36:00] a lot more to the equation to that people can do and may not do that will either add to their longevity or subtract from it and you know, and and so the three drugs that they focused on two of them have real Merit growth hormone and DHEA.
[00:36:16] Yeah, the third drug metformin. My audience knows that when metformin first came out as a Wonder seen oolitic drug, I said bad idea to turn mtor off around the clock really bad idea and it's a bad idea to change the gut microbiome, which is another X aspect of taking metformin. And so the three cocktail a drug cocktail was growth hormone DHEA and Metformin and I said, Why metformin why not intermittent fasting why not allow these people periods of the day where they are shutting their own mtor off appropriately because they're fasted.
[00:36:59] [00:37:00] Adam Lamb: [00:36:59] Yeah, I think that that's a great point and I even look at to how it relates to myself and you know some things even like I was saying you previously was sometimes and I'm currently in it and actually ends today. I'll take a week off of everything. No supplements. Nothing not even a protein shake just to like make sure I don't feel like I'm gonna die winning is important right make my I know what they all do and I think in those kind of things but to your point on that foreman, so I take it but not regularly, but I'll tell MIT that like I go to the movies with my kids and like I overindulged like I don't do anything a little bit.
[00:37:44] I will eat candy and like just crack and I might like
[00:37:47] Carl Lanore: [00:37:47] metformin is not protecting. You see that so see his part of my frustration with metformin. We are all sitting back and going metformin is going to make us live longer. [00:38:00] We're going to have great lives because of metformin and we have a diabetic population that's been taking metformin for close to 25 years now.
[00:38:10] And they still die of all the same diseases associated with their diabetes heart disease cancers, they kidney disease or
[00:38:20] Adam Lamb: [00:38:20] change their lifestyle.
[00:38:21] Carl Lanore: [00:38:21] Well, okay, they don't change their lifestyle. You're right, but the point is if metformin did what it was if metformin did what the anti aging Community wants to believe it.
[00:38:34] Does they wouldn't develop. Diabetes related diseases they wouldn't because they go and they check their blood sugar all my blood sugar is 87. I'm good. I had to take you know, 6 metformin yesterday cuz all I ate but my blood sugar's good. And once again, we're looking at blood sugar go everything is fine.
[00:38:52] Meanwhile, they're rotting inside, but their blood sugar's good. The point II, you know, [00:39:00] I have been against metformin forever and there are people who are even in the HRT Community. I think it was Jim Brown who was J. Campbell's partner for a while. He came out and told me I was completely wrong about metformin.
[00:39:14] It's great. And I said it shuts off mtor and he's like, well just take testosterone and now I am on testosterone, but I still won't take metformin and so I've sat back and watched. And here's what I've noticed I have friends who have been taking metformin for a long time. Now five six seven years.
[00:39:34] They're developing cancers. They're having a lot of soft tissue issues snapped ligament. I got a buddy at the gym, you know, he's taking 500 milligrams to test the week. He's a solid rock solid dude been training for a long time. He's not as old as me, but I think he's in his 50s. I mean the guy is shredded and muscular and he just literally just walking took his Achilles tendon right off the [00:40:00] heel of his foot.
[00:40:01] I see more and more people on Metformin and the funny thing is I was doing an interview about three or four months ago and we were talking about soft tissue. Glycation and the changes in tendons and ligaments that make them that there may take you from tendonitis to tendinosis and tendinosis is when they start to fray and they become weakened.
[00:40:25] That's when they snap and I remember we were talking about blood sugar levels and glycation end products. It's and at the thought came to me, this is why. People who are taking metformin a seeing a lot more soft tissue injuries and then it and then the thought passed I didn't write it down. I don't remember the interview.
[00:40:47] I'm sorry, I could probably figure it out just by looking at the context of one of the topics, but I'm seeing more and more friends of mine who are taking metformin. I know a couple women that have been [00:41:00] taking metformin for anti-aging purposes for about the past five years and both of them have breast cancer.
[00:41:06] So the point the point is this metformin. Doesn't work. It doesn't keep diabetics from not dying of diabetes related diseases and it's not going to keep you from aging no matter what you do, you know, what's going to keep you from aging intimate and fasting. Intimate and fasting will work. So so diet metformin is like that same analogy you rumbling but you're not moving 240 miles an hour just because you're making these few changes in your body.
[00:41:38] You're not really receiving all the benefits the way to receive. All the benefits is to actually do the hard work and fast.
[00:41:46] Adam Lamb: [00:41:46] So you don't think that you know metformin let's say fasted 500 milligrams of Metformin in the morning in your fasted. You don't think there's an increase or from a [00:42:00] longevity but ignoring the right things.
[00:42:03] Yeah, and it's like I said, I want two hours. Value your opinion and
[00:42:10] Carl Lanore: [00:42:10] maybe it may it may upregulate search who wins and met up for you. It may actually give you the effects of a deeper fast. I won't take that away from it.
[00:42:19] Adam Lamb: [00:42:19] And that's what I look at it as is that but that
[00:42:22] Carl Lanore: [00:42:22] but that's not how people who were taking it in the bodybuilding Community are taking, you know thousand milligrams three times a day and eaten the way they eat and doing all the shit they do and they're just going.
[00:42:32] Oh,
[00:42:33] Adam Lamb: [00:42:33] yeah. Folks that take it. It's been a bit more than 500 a day typically and that's what I you know with the stem cell stuff to you know in I'm blessed in the in this in the homeowner jacket space. Most of our clients are high functioning. They're learning. They're educated. They're like high performers that just want to be better right in the stem cell case.
[00:42:56] A lot of people that have made a ton of bad Health decisions [00:43:00] and now they're like surgery. For you know stem cell maybe for my knee or my hip or whatever and we see a lot more diabetics. We see a lot of people like, you know, 3,000 milligrams of Gabapentin a day, you know in the same thing, but that's the thing where the metformin to is to people you're right with 2,000 3,000 milligrams and Metformin a day and I'm like, how about you just
[00:43:24] Carl Lanore: [00:43:24] stop drinking
[00:43:24] Adam Lamb: [00:43:24] cooking like this?
[00:43:26] Stop. My
[00:43:28] Carl Lanore: [00:43:28] taking metformin is just taking the alarm signal away that you're destroying your body. That's all it's doing. It's not it's not protecting you from you're going to develop my own brother-in-law. I had this conversation with my own brother-in-law my own brother-in-law came on my show eight nine ten years ago after I helped him beat lymphoma not Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma and.
[00:43:52] He's been diabetic forever and he's just doesn't he gets up in the middle of the night and he eats, you know, Captain [00:44:00] Crunch cereal in the middle of the night. I mean I'm being facetious, but I eat cereal in the middle of the night. Yeah, and I tell him John. You know, you still have diabetes just because the metformin is making your blood sugar test low, you're still destroying your body from the inside.
[00:44:16] Wow. You know, nobody wants to listen. Well my doctor my doctor, you know, your doctor doesn't give a damn he's not going to be he's not even gonna be at your funeral That's how little he cares about you and so sure enough. He just admitted to the hospital. He's got a heart problem. But what the hard part well, you know, it's Associated to diabetes and yeah, but you've been taking metformin what like I was being facetious and a pissed off at him because if he would listen to me eight years ago, And just change the way he eats change the way he sleeps.
[00:44:46] You know, he would have this problem today. Now. He's now he's looking at all. You know that tell me I may need a pacemaker.
[00:44:53] Adam Lamb: [00:44:53] Yeah, you know, you're a hundred percent right with were as a society to often. Do you [00:45:00] want the magic pill and we don't want the work and I think to your point people just think metformin could be at Magic pill.
[00:45:07] I don't think it's a magic pill I think too much of anything is a bad thing. And I think that if it's used properly and it's used within. Certain environments it can assist right but I think it's usually abused in most times.
[00:45:26] Carl Lanore: [00:45:26] I guess. I think it's a good rescue right you get somebody and you shake them you go.
[00:45:30] Look you're about to die. You're gonna die. Like I can't give you the date, but you're on the you're on the train you're on the right train heading to death and I want to get you off the train. So first you have to do is I'm going to get you this before. And we're gonna get your blood sugar under control, but we're going to have you off of this in six months.
[00:45:46] This is not permanent doctors never say that that's the conversation doctors should have but
[00:45:54] Adam Lamb: [00:45:54] it's the we talked about this many times a lot of times what it is. I feel bad for the doctors [00:46:00] because you know, and we work a lot with folks that are the pain like pain med doc, but pain clinic doctor says we do stem cells we could provide a solution that actually help for Generate problem instead of.
[00:46:10] Giving them a pink shot. Right? We also work with doctors at deal with folks that have in the diabetic space because we like the taupe change your lifestyle, right? We want you to change your lifestyle if I heard me say before were some kind of folks come to us and we tell them that like they need like Tony Robbins or some motivational person to change your life change your mindset before we can actually change your help because I love you can't out drug.
[00:46:37] But I'm afraid you can't there just isn't a way to do it and but I think the go back to the study. It's interesting with you know, DHEA. That's huge one little thing. I mean there's we had a extremely reputable motivational speaker marketer guy that you probably see every single day. If you're on social media who's having [00:47:00] an issue asleep as soon as problem.
[00:47:01] Was it a DHEA issues a silly miles an hour? You know, I mean like fight or flight. We provide a small dose of DHEA and evening back normal. Oh my gosh, that is just just that something that simple but when you add that it can help regulate cortisol levels when they're functioning things like that helping combat the stress hormones and stress cozy like we all know that everyone knows that and then I think that the growth hormone that goes back to the aging process where you know, my daughter six years old if you check her igf-1, it's probably five or six hundred, right?
[00:47:36] Eject go slow. 65 years old igf-1 maybe a hundred hundred eleven. If you sleep like crap it's even lower in so we know that in also, if you if you have lots of sugar the worst thing you could do for yourself is wake up and have sugar the worst because your growth hormone is highest in the morning or while you sleep and if you grab [00:48:00] cereal or sugar in your coffee right away that spike in insulin.
[00:48:03] Drops igf-1 it shuts it down. Alright, and then people don't notice know that to there's a lot of people out there that are spending the money on taking growth hormone or some of these peptides and they don't know that I just did my shot of him or Ellen and I'm going to have a bowl of cereal 30 minutes later and it just right it's terrible for it.
[00:48:23] So the
[00:48:23] Carl Lanore: [00:48:23] so let's do this. We're getting close to the it. Let's go ahead and give an alternate cocktail.
[00:48:28] Adam Lamb: [00:48:28] Yeah.
[00:48:29] Carl Lanore: [00:48:29] Okay, so I'll give mine you give yours. So mine is obviously no metformin do a 16 hour fast every single day of your life. Stop eating at 6 p.m. At night and don't start eating until the next day at 10:00 and train in the morning faster.
[00:48:44] That's number one. Number two. I hate calling it CJC 1295 because it's not. Because CJC 1295 actually has the drug Affinity complex on it. That's why it has a unique name. But [00:49:00] for the sake of this CJC 1295 without DAC or modified growth factor 1 through 29, whichever one you want to call it plus GH rp6 or some other ghrelin Agonist like in Palmer Ellen or something like that and then of course.
[00:49:17] A hundred milligrams of DHEA in the morning and about 25 to 50 in the late afternoon. That's my approach to what do you think?
[00:49:26] Adam Lamb: [00:49:26] So my Approach would be in actually starting this tonight. That's what they took a break off everything. So I've been at says Merlin for about four months and I love to that's tough love it, but I want to go to I'm doing CJC 1295 and up Amarillo.
[00:49:44] Start that I'm going to do that for 90 days after that before I go to bed and then I'll take DHEA just 25 milligrams. I mean, it's you know blood levels vary right? We had some people come through and engaging the tank. There's some people [00:50:00] that whole 500 they're not taking anything. So she puts the hea what we found though is makes people a little like lackadaisical were taking it.
[00:50:09] So I would take the VA H, VA. Evening time like I'm ready to sit down on the couch watch TV with the kids time not right before bed. But when I'm done when I'm ready to chill because I think it helps regulate because you want your Corazon de to hit in the morning and DHA will change that little extra surprise that someone and then - I think you're with no drugs are a better path than taking drugs all day every day and I was just saying that someone like lift.
[00:50:40] If there was a related do what we do in the hormone side with the supplement, I would own I own supplement companies. I would have a company did it right? There's things you can do from a health standpoint and things like that, but it's so your point. I mean, that's what I do. I fast every day except for lately.
[00:50:58] I've been to the gym twice in a week, but [00:51:00] I passed 12 to 8 years when I eat so I fast from here usually if I could nights old noon the next day. And I get up usually it's all you are started recently as I get up at five and I get him. I got an infrared sauna now that I do that for about 20 minutes in the morning.
[00:51:17] How
[00:51:17] Carl Lanore: [00:51:17] fast is your son a warm-up?
[00:51:19] Adam Lamb: [00:51:19] Well, I live in
[00:51:21] Carl Lanore: [00:51:21] Texas
[00:51:23] Adam Lamb: [00:51:23] so it's so it's pretty quick at this morning when I was getting in it, but the and then when I haven't been going to the gym, so I've just had a lot of early obligations, but you're right. Faster the training in the morning. Let's see if you're trying to be.
[00:51:38] Mr. Olympia bodybuilder. It's hard like having those meals are important to feed your body. But I think your your path is the same thing as what I would do. I would just do less. Eh, eh, eh, that's a what you laid out from what I've seen personally and it's a lot of uh, a for folks.
[00:51:59] Carl Lanore: [00:51:59] Let's [00:52:00] let's do this.
[00:52:00] Let's get my career's questions answered. I'm not going to run. The next commercial break because we're obviously having some sort of a commercial product a problem with it. But so Mike bear says my question is what percentage of taking vitamins by mouth actually gets into the system compared to injectable.
[00:52:17] Well a hundred percent gets into the system from injectable oral. It's a crapshoot. It depends on if you have any gut issues
[00:52:25] Adam Lamb: [00:52:25] issues how you digest how your body processes stuff? It can break down to the gelatin of the Catholic. There's just certain things. It could what it did you empty stomach, you know, did you eat we're looking
[00:52:40] Carl Lanore: [00:52:40] for
[00:52:41] Adam Lamb: [00:52:41] so many variables that we just we think that the injectable version it just worse.
[00:52:48] Maybe I've been. That be complex and I'm just like, you know, like there's just I just feel like you can almost taste that after some time.
[00:52:56] Carl Lanore: [00:52:56] Yeah. I want to get some of that be complex. I so then Mike says I take [00:53:00] metformin twice a day when I was living an unhealthy lifestyle. My blood sugar was out of control now that I'm Tate I'm learning and living a healthier lifestyle exercise diet still taking metformin twice a day 500 milligrams.
[00:53:14] So he's dropped his his dose. My goal is. My goal is when I get to my goal weight, I'll stop metformin entirely which is a great goal and then he follows up with I believe that metformin still contributes and contributed to my foreigners gangrene. What the hell is foreigners gangrene?
[00:53:36] Adam Lamb: [00:53:36] So good.
[00:53:37] Carl Lanore: [00:53:37] Wow.
[00:53:37] I hope it didn't. Yeah, he said exactly temporary. Yes. Exactly. Farhan is gangrene. I don't know. I don't know what that is, but that doesn't sound good. And I wonder why you feel that metformin contributed to it. I'm telling you metformin is not I got a friend who's it's pretty big in the anti-aging space.
[00:54:00] [00:54:00] And he's had his wife on Metformin for like ever. She's got breast cancer. I'm not laughing I'm saying like. You know metformin supposed to protect you against all that stuff. It's both because you know because you know, it's supposed to be managing glucose. It's supposed to be making it like your fasted.
[00:54:19] It's supposed to make it supposed to make all these magical things happen.
[00:54:22] Adam Lamb: [00:54:22] Well, the one thing I wonder whether to is can taking metformin actually. Make you want to eat sugar
[00:54:31] Carl Lanore: [00:54:31] more. I don't know. I may be from the standpoint of I know I'm going to go out and wreak havoc tonight because I'm going to the movies with the kids.
[00:54:42] So I'll actually if I didn't have metformin I'd probably cut back but since I do I'm gonna
[00:54:48] Adam Lamb: [00:54:48] I mean more like if I'm not getting that satisfy because I know every
[00:54:55] Carl Lanore: [00:54:55] single
[00:54:55] Adam Lamb: [00:54:55] time every by E. I want something sweet. And I know we meet
[00:54:59] Carl Lanore: [00:54:59] you at the end of the [00:55:00] meal. Me too. I'm exaggerating
[00:55:01] Adam Lamb: [00:55:01] when I was bodybuilding diet.
[00:55:04] I would drink a Diet Mountain Dew after just about every single meal and that's what like that was like, so I got to that final two weeks. I would cut that will cut it but a diet pop after soda, whatever after like a super clean meal was always what did it for me? And that's where it starts is.
[00:55:23] I'll have I'll eat clean and then I feel good chicken and some rice or something like that. And then I'm what I've been doing lately is I've been eating fruit more Apple the Apple had a banana or something. I got to cut that out to 17 a change.
[00:55:39] Carl Lanore: [00:55:39] Randy glass has a question for us. He says what are the things to look for when taking metformin that should cause concern?
[00:55:47] I don't think there's any outward exam. I don't think there's anything that comes out and goes. Oh look, you know, you're taking too much metformin even taking it too long. I don't think that metformin is necessary. You know, if you're a [00:56:00] bodybuilder, which I'm looking at your picture and you've got an enviable physique.
[00:56:04] Not you Adam. I'm talking about him. Now. It's good
[00:56:10] Adam Lamb: [00:56:10] Olympia. Look,
[00:56:12] Carl Lanore: [00:56:12] you know if you did even a 12 hour. You know, you probably have as much insulin sensitizing effects, you know, don't wake up in the middle of the night for a protein drink that's a stupid idea really is from a health standpoint as
[00:56:29] Adam Lamb: [00:56:29] well.
[00:56:29] But here that's the you bring up a great point and I had this conversation with a client for the day where you're either really focused on your health. Are you want to be a bodybuilder there? Is it like
[00:56:39] Carl Lanore: [00:56:39] yeah, but you see the problem but no, but the problem is that guys like Randy glass and there's a lot of guys out there like dude.
[00:56:47] I want to I want to find the way to be as big and strong and muscular and ripped as I can. But I also want to do the least amount of damage to myself in the long run because I know someday I'm not going to be doing this [00:57:00] anymore.
[00:57:01] Adam Lamb: [00:57:01] It's a lot of work, but I had some recent guy was. 56 years old a new client blood work came back bad and he's talking about Trend and master and I'm like are you trying to be mr.
[00:57:11] Olympia? No, it's not the crab. Dude. You're not 27 years old when you're 27, your body will recover a little bit. But you're 57 like you're not going to invest or with that crap, right? All right, so making those decisions to I think if you're a bodybuilder and you're trying to be big. In Madrid maintain muscle you shouldn't do a ton of fasting.
[00:57:33] You shouldn't take my foreman. You should be eating a lot of clean meals to feed the
[00:57:37] Carl Lanore: [00:57:37] body. And that's the other thing. I was just going to say and the reality is when we look at what metformin does right. It keeps blood sugar from rising too high. That's really that's all it does. That's really all it does.
[00:57:50] It's a glucose disposal agent. Is it no wait? Glimepiride it's a glucose. It's an insulin [00:58:00] mimetic. I forget but the bottom line is the end result is to keep blood sugar low. And so if you stop eating at a reasonable time at night and for your health, you should eat three you should stop eating three hours before bedtime.
[00:58:13] A lot of body builders won't do that because a lot of body builders are going to eat right up to bed time. And then they're going to sleep for 8 hours and I
[00:58:21] Adam Lamb: [00:58:21] slow slow break down protein think yeah, here's the deal like if that's what you doing. That's what you're doing. You know, he liked but you can't you can't want to be like a Ben Greenfield like your fitter.
[00:58:36] Just one of these like lean I think of myself like I just want to be fit. I don't care dude. I wouldn't get back today. I did one plate on the back things and I did. Bent over rows with 30 pound dumbbells I can do more but I just don't care. I'm not I just I mean painting what I have. You know what I mean?
[00:58:53] I want to look clean and I want to feel good. And so that's why I follow that more metformin comes in. But if you're trying to [00:59:00] be big and. You know add muscle and pounds and you gotta you gotta feed that body
[00:59:05] Carl Lanore: [00:59:05] Randy. I don't think I you're saying you're all natural and I believe you I'm just repeating all natural and it for the longevity is 55 years old.
[00:59:12] God bless you, but I don't think I think that you don't need metformin. I just think you start to start doing a 16 hour fast. Yeah, anybody train train train fasted in the morning. Take your peptides post-workout throw down your protein drink and then eat every two or three hours and eating very very low glycemic meals because that's what metformin is doing.
[00:59:32] Right metformin is just suppressing blood sugar's elevation. Well if you eat. Chicken and broccoli and chicken and green beans and turkey and and and broccoli and salmon and rice and you're doing the same thing that Foreman's doing already. You keeping blood sugar stable that's are
[00:59:51] two
[00:59:51] Adam Lamb: [00:59:51] things is if you look like he loves you already know what you're doing.
[00:59:55] You don't need that metformin is for people that don't know what they're doing on that on that [01:00:00] diabetic side. He's
[01:00:01] Carl Lanore: [01:00:01] already he's doing it. He's doing it. You don't need metformin Randy you're already doing it
[01:00:05] Adam Lamb: [01:00:05] and go to is that. You know, we talk a lot. We really give sugar and glucose a bad name.
[01:00:11] But if you're a high-performing athlete you absolutely need sugar glucose because your body may not be able to use the fat physiography and get what you're going to burn. You're going to burn your muscle. Right? That's why a lot of guys that they're working girls, especially there's they don't eat enough calories for a hollow how they train and how they live and their body just never.
[01:00:34] Changes here at me like that the best I ever look with the most screwdriver a you know, four ounces of lean protein like a cup of rice eight times a day would like 12 egg whites before I went to bed and I wake up in the morning to 8:00 egg. Whites are like four and four whole eggs and like two cups of oatmeal and then eat more chicken and rice Mills all day long.
[01:00:58] I just think it's a it's [01:01:00] a depends on your goal and things like that before you get them.
[01:01:02] Carl Lanore: [01:01:02] I actually think the bodybuilder diet has some amazing health benefits because you eating frequently small meals frequently throughout the day is how they turned diabetics into non-diabetics number one because you're managing blood sugar number to eating the same Foods day in and day out.
[01:01:20] Seemed to to have a magical effect on the digestive system in the stomach it literally like going on vacations like we doing the same thing day in and day out. It loves that the stomach love that
[01:01:31] Adam Lamb: [01:01:31] corner. Oh, yeah, another body that that diet is it's just hard to sit too because I want to have ice cream.
[01:01:37] I want to eat crap. So if in those you bring up a good point to use I had a conversation with someone recently they talking about like that was their lifestyle. And that lifestyle you just outline is amazing. That's the best thing you could do for yourself. But what that person was also including in the lifestyle was the term they use supplements and I like to use the [01:02:00] term drugs and an arsenal of drugs that is affecting their blood sugar.
[01:02:04] Like you can eat clean and do all those things with your taking tons of drugs that are hurting your body and damaging your body. You might as well just eat McDonald's. All right, you're going to die at the same time. The guy with diabetes is I
[01:02:17] Carl Lanore: [01:02:17] don't know completely about that. So, dr. Marty bus quality and I have had these conversations over the years and I kind of am in his Camp.
[01:02:26] Dr. Dee who's I mean there are a few people that would challenge him on the discussions of Sports Nutrition or Sports Performance drug use, would you agree with that statement?
[01:02:38] Adam Lamb: [01:02:38] But it just depends on you know talking. Are you talking about a you know, a hundred milligrams at Trent every day? Oh
[01:02:43] Carl Lanore: [01:02:43] no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no tread.
[01:02:46] I don't while I love the trend back in the day. I would never take Trend again and I would not recommend anybody take Trend. There's no need to take it. There's really no reason for it. But but you know, he was one that always said [01:03:00] that the damage to the liver from orals was greatly exaggerated, which I agree with him.
[01:03:06] I agree and also that super physiological doses of testosterone absolutely lead to heart disease cancer and early death and we have a population of men out there today who have secretly been on a cycle or on HRT and a cycle or combination of both for the past 20 or 30 years now. And they're not dropping like flies and then I you know, I think what is interesting is all the guys who seem to drop dead come off at some point in their lives.
[01:03:46] They just go I'm done bodybuilding. I'm done with sports. I'm done with these drugs and they literally just stopped taking them and then you hear that they died for five years. Of a heart attack and I think that that's a stupid way to [01:04:00] handle it. If you've been on super physiological doses of drugs for more than a decade, which is a serious amount of your life, you know, just come off you you got chances.
[01:04:10] Are you gonna have to stay on something for the rest of your life?
[01:04:13] Adam Lamb: [01:04:13] Yeah, you know, you can't go your body will just going almost, you know, we've talked about what your testosterone is higher in that thriving hunting steak. Right? And we need to start our own little tank. Your body's like well, I guess it's about that time and we're heading towards death.
[01:04:31] And so if you go from that extreme state so that zero State your body might be like, oh I must be 90.
[01:04:38] Carl Lanore: [01:04:38] I must have died and I didn't know it. I know it and I didn't know it. Let me lay down
[01:04:44] Adam Lamb: [01:04:44] here T something that used to be on properly physician supervised looking at your blood work forever, right like.
[01:04:54] Carl Lanore: [01:04:54] For I know I had somebody asked me once so how long are you going to do this for? I said what did he said, you know and inject [01:05:00] this testosterone as I'll probably take a shot the morning. I die like forever like until I'm gone. Why why why would I want to
[01:05:10] Adam Lamb: [01:05:10] stop I had someone asked me that yesterday and I explained to him that you know, if you want to look and feel the way you are you have to go to the gym every day to you know, it's like as long as you want to feel great.
[01:05:22] Have the energy and the vibrant life that we want you got to do it and you don't care anymore. Stop doing it, you know, that's it. So
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[01:07:51] Adam Lamb: [01:07:51] Well, I think we hit it off.
[01:07:53] Carl Lanore: [01:07:53] Thank you Mike Bear. He said this was a great show
[01:07:56] Adam Lamb: [01:07:56] today and
[01:07:59] Carl Lanore: [01:07:59] thank you for the [01:08:00] questions.
[01:08:01] That helped show be great, and I don't know what that ghost was, but hopefully it won't come back. I see you later Adam
[01:08:07] Adam Lamb: [01:08:07] Take Care. Thank you.
