[00:00:00] Happy 61st birthday to me. I've gone around this planet 61 times now and what have I learned? Well, I don't know we may actually talk about some of that today because along with the Regular Show we're going to be doing coach [00:01:00] Rodriguez is going to interview me as well as we go through this day. Let me go ahead and roll his music calling all blueprint Army fall in line.

[00:01:11] It's time for the blueprint Power Hour with Coach Rodriguez on the Superhuman radio network.

[00:01:21] How you doing Robert? Wait a minute. Are you doing Rob do it again? II never Mike open. Happy birthday and many many more. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, and I'm rocking man. I feel great. I got no complaints. I'm very happy with my life. I'm very happy with. Every day I get I wake up every morning excited about what is going on that day.

[00:01:45] And a lot of it has to do with the two things this show and Eliza. Really? That's the God's honest truth. That's awesome. Yes here and you said to me you want to talk. I'm going to let you interview me a little bit here and there but [00:02:00] before we do that, let's just kick off the Regular Show. What's new with you?

[00:02:04] Well, I continue to see my doctor on a weekly basis. And the creatine kinase levels are trending downwards. Although they're still far in excess of I guess what they should be the better news is that my kidneys are functioning much much better. I'm only a few points above the high end of normal on his lab.

[00:02:31] So he was happy to see that. You know, I think we're and we'll talk about this more in the tip of the day. But some things are going to have to change for me and it will be a real Reckoning when that time comes, you know, I was watching some guys who just do exclusively bodyweight work and they have some really.

[00:02:55] Pretty physiques. Yeah, and I'm thinking to myself, you know, maybe [00:03:00] for a while. I'll switch to body weight work and jumping rope. I mean, you know, you could look let's at the end of the day. Okay, how many times do you have to you know squat extra pounds how many times you have to deadlift that spouse at some point in time?

[00:03:14] It becomes less important to keep breaking those records and more important to maintain your strength and health. In tandem as you age. Yeah bodyweight work will do that. Also, you know regulate your appetite such that you don't become, you know, 20 carrying 20 30 or 40 or more pounds more than you should be.

[00:03:36] Yeah, and because every kind of chub works against. And body would it work? Well, so so what is the funny story about toenails now, we know we've heard your story about toenails because you've turned them all off. Don't tell me that growing back. Now. The funny story is I was at the dock last week.

[00:03:54] I was wearing sandals and says he's taking blood of my arm. He looks down he goes. What do you got going on [00:04:00] down? There is your toenails. Look white I said, yeah, you know, I got that fungus and I just I rip them all off and you go. Do what I should have told him off. He says how did you do that?

[00:04:13] And I said, you know, I was searching for the word. I couldn't find it. I said not screwdriver, right? Okay, and he says pliers I said yeah right there. In fact or mom. He said my God that must have been excruciating so it wasn't as bad as what came next. I said, I poured isopropyl alcohol over at the see him up and he just he can't believe it.

[00:04:38] It's. He's incredulous. And then right before I left. I said one of the things just check this. Under my tongue here. I got what I think is a canker sore, but you know, give it a look so it gets a little light. He looks in there and shit. Yeah looks like a canker sore to me and so as we're walking out of his office.

[00:04:56] He says they rob one more thing. [00:05:00] I said what I said, don't rip your tongue out and pour alcohol on it. You can't assume right because you can't assume with a guy like me. Yeah, I'll just get rid of fix that tongue problem. I'll just get rid of it who needs that damn thing. It's got me in more trouble than I want to talk about.

[00:05:19] Anyway, right exactly. So the first question comes from John Welch really interested in info about XD stare on last week. Interesting. What is your history with the compound? And where do you see it going? And this is you know understanding. Where I came from with it will explain where I think it's going and where are my work in that area will be going so way back in 1992.

[00:05:49] I open up a muscle mind International on the newsstand in there was a little red and black ad in the back and I had a chemical graphic of [00:06:00] activist are on I didn't know that at the time but the products name was miserable. And so no internet yet, or at least, you know, not much of an Internet and I call the 800 number and I ordered it up and took a flyer on it and couldn't believe how well I did so I began to really develop a keen interest in it.

[00:06:24] It was put out by a company called Amino Discounters and one of the chemists that's talked about in the book steroid Nation. Mark Thurmond that was actually his company and subsequently, he made almost all of the Alexa which in in that was on the market, but as I continued to learn about it articles started appearing in powerlifting USA by Rick Runner who was the CEO of Atletico.

[00:06:52] He had a product called retinol and retinol when it was initially ruled out where they were [00:07:00] tiny white tablets. Of Republican carcinoid extracts 20. I think he said it was 20 hydroxy at these General but. Full full spectrum sticks in my mind. Anyway, I likewise did incredibly well on that product shortly after that.

[00:07:20] However, for whatever reason credible change into a big brown tablet and they didn't work nearly as well. But the important point is this rip through nerd probably did more than anyone in the United States to explain what I teach their own was. How it works and just as importantly how you should train while you're using it but like I said read them all went bad, but at that point when mass muscle in sports science open their doors, they were carrying a product called Zeb Utah by so discoveries and W tall by label [00:08:00] was 10 milligrams of a summa sterile extract and the little black and white ads and who else wants to gain 5 10 15 pounds of.

[00:08:08] I ordered a bottle and sure enough. I put on 10 pounds. Really. Yeah, and I was absolutely hooked but kind of like red a ball the quality of those products starting to get really spotty in order some models and use them and get absolutely nothing the next one. I gained, you know, almost 15 pounds.

[00:08:29] It was crazy. Um, so he could no longer conduct business like that, obviously. So at that point he took the whole empty stare on thing in house. He did a combination test booster XD produc adaptogen in which to this day, you know contains the strongest extract of Zoom of twenty five to one on the market.

[00:08:52] It was really good subsequently. The year was 1996 and if you [00:09:00] remember that's when Andrew hit the market and thus begins right one of the most storied chapters in supplement history. Nobody was interested in doing that connect each their own product while beta-alanine for that matter because beta alanine hit the market at that time.

[00:09:17] Nobody even paid attention to it, except the Korean speed skating team. Yes. Yeah same phenomena. But around that time he consulted me on doing an acne product which he did are somewhat sporadic. It was probably the only one on the market at that point and then in 2012. He commissioned me to do the penultimate active which became centage in so long story short.

[00:09:49] I have been using it in one form or another since 1992 in advocating for its youth. I would tell you that today by far the best products [00:10:00] the best acne products to use our masked entheogen in progenitor X. Yes. I formulate them. So I have a vested interest but to my knowledge nobody else is doing the kind of research that I have done which brings us to the study.

[00:10:16] The study is Rock Solid. In fact, I ordered the ordered and paid for the full study just to make sure and it is more Rock Solid than you can possibly imagine. My subscribers will be getting a copy of it shortly when the next bullet when it goes out final note when I originally went for HRT. I walk into the office sat down with the doctor said.

[00:10:40] There's no way you know, you need testosterones is not with the in that with the amount of muscle on you, right? He does the test you walks back in and he says this is incredible your body's making no anabolic or was my total test was 122. Wow, I don't yeah. I don't remember the free test, but it was similar, right but I [00:11:00] will say this I was still making progress in the gym.

[00:11:03] And I still had a decent amount of muscle and yes, I was easily at least are on and my own training protocols for it at the time Food For Thought does does at least their own stimulate the retinoid X receptor. Do you know I don't there's been I remember reading about that and hearing talk about it, but more recently.

[00:11:26] And this the the scientists that conducted this study very validated this in the test tube to it works via the estrogen beta receptor. So and you know, everyone's looking for, you know, it doesn't increase testosterone. It doesn't talk at the steroid receptor. It can't possibly work now. It was a back door mechanism that nobody was looking at there are other mechanisms that are it works through to unconvinced.

[00:11:53] Um, but think about that all along it was something that nobody who would have looked at the [00:12:00] estrogen receptor active. I'm almost positive. The retinoid X receptor has a role in empty stare own and if it does that means taking it with retinol real vitamin A or Thrive because we have a nice dose of real vitamin A in there might actually be beneficial way Johnson happy birthday to me.

[00:12:18] Thank you so much weight. We need to get weight on the show because. He did great and Japan and I want to talk to him about how it was and what he did and all that sort of stuff, and I'm going to I'm going to message you today and what will book that and then Bobby Cooper my brother from another mother happy birthday Carl and or and Tim Bruce happy birthday Carlin or and to all of you that I already put your name's up.

[00:12:42] And by the way Lars gone home. He sent me a pre-workout formula using kratom. We're going to talk about that a little bit later in the show. I'm going to give his formula. It's pretty well thought out thanks to all of you for being here for my birthday show. Thank you. Yeah, okay. So [00:13:00] let's go to the next question Coral gone.

[00:13:05] I'm on vacation, too. Okay. So next question is scrolling scrolling, Ron rendell's you seem pretty high on the handstand shoulder pressed. Why is that and how do I learn to do one? It is a movement that you must go slowly with unless you want to crack your neck. Yes. That's really good point because for all of its Merit.

[00:13:32] Being upside down is something right. The last time that happened for most people was when they were in the womb. So just kick in this is this would be step one learning the movement just kicking up into a handstand against the wall and holding it would be step one. Yes, if you can hold that for up to a minute, I would tell you that you would be able to progress into into the next.

[00:14:00] [00:14:00] Way that I train it and I train it completely differently than convict conditioning which to Paul weights credit was where I read about it. I only started doing something different when I encounter difficulty with his progressions, but here is how I do it. I went to thank Ocean State Job lat I bought a dozen of those foam interlocking Master about a quarter inch.

[00:14:29] Um in height and I started right at 12, I put 12 of those things right underneath my head and just did partials and once I was able to do five to seven partials, I slipped another mad out increasing the range of motion again built up the 527 slip another one out that is in my opinion the best in the easiest way to learn to do them.

[00:14:56] It is infinitely. More.  [00:15:00] satisfying movement then a barbell overhead, press for example, and for some reason.  I am able to do that with no elbow pain and recall I have I'm bone on bone in my right elbow. The handstand shoulder press is a phenomenal movement Works virtually every muscle in the upper body.

[00:15:23] It is one of two the other being generous. Where you are lifting one hundred percent of your body weight. Now there are some people that will tell you, you know, the movement should be done free meaning not with your feet against the wall. Well, you know, the reality is the old-time strong men that use this movement and advocated it.

[00:15:46] We're always Resolute in one point strength first. Strength first. Nobody is going to get this off the bat by flipping onto their hands in a free hand stamp right and going [00:16:00] down touch the top of your head and come back up. It Pete was a people see this and they know you need to be strong as an ox to do.

[00:16:09] Really and if you are interested in going further than you can purchase some handles two or three inches off the floor obviously increases the range of motion, but for most you think it makes you stronger to be able to grip those handles as opposed to being flat Palm down the floor. You know, that's a good question.

[00:16:27] I've only from taking risk mobility and forearm strength into the question to question. Yeah. I think it's that too is a level of difficulty more than just the range of. But if you think about it, it's a pronated grip right your palms are facing each other. So everything will be in line the risk the shoulder and the elbow, right?

[00:16:49] So great movement well worth your time investing the effort and learning how to do it. You will be frustrated you will have days where you're not even able to kick [00:17:00] up against the wall keep trying it will come. I promise. Yeah, I only started doing those after I could no longer barbell bench, press because of the elbow the elbow just hurts so much.

[00:17:15] I was shocked when I was able to do handstand shoulder presses pain-free. Yeah. Yeah Matt. So hey says I came across an old show about protective nutrients while using gear. What are your top picks these days? Yeah. This is going to be a quick one, but. I think when we did that show I said that I was of the opinion and I still am.

[00:17:40] that geared lifters need to be using more supplements than guys guys that don't you know, so let's let's take a look at a few examples. If you're using orals. It's a pretty safe bet that they're going to tax the liver in that case. My top pick would be to cut to you DCA for liver [00:18:00] protection my son right now.

[00:18:02] Is using that prescription meds for his nails because he's got it. Okay, it is horribly liver toxic. I have him taking tube. And so that I think that speaks volumes. If you can't get to data you can look into anything little cysteine that is also write a very good lover of I take I take NAC every day.

[00:18:24] Yep, because I was taking ibuprofen for pain. In my eye and I was taking three grams twice a day that increases glutathione production in the liver is very limited. In fact when you are in the hospital for Tylenol poisoning where you're going to lose your liver, they give you intravenous NAC first line of defense.

[00:18:46] Yeah. Did you say three grams twice a day? Yeah. I think it's a crime today. Oh, that's just fantastic. They used to think they used to think that more wasn't better. But well an antioxidant standpoint. They thought more [00:19:00] wasn't so they talked about that with that's when they did a study that showed NAC improved exercise performance.

[00:19:07] And if you took more than three grams, it seemed not to work. I don't care about exercise performance. I care about my liver. I care about producing as much glutathione as possible. Right right great product all contexts. Yeah, another you have fish oil on your list, huh? Yeah fish arose there for the obviously many many benefits that it brings primarily anti-inflammatory.

[00:19:30] Okay, maybe doctors don't agree on much, but they do agree inflammation either underlies every disease or exacerbates it why are a low what is a laddoo and liver protection? The are isomer of alpha lipoic acid has similar as a similar action to assisting in that little boost glutathione. It also recycles antioxidants like vitamin c and e and the component of that goes into liver stress.

[00:19:58] Another acceptable product [00:20:00] is called live 52. I've seen good blood work on that. I am less enthusiastic about milk thistle, although it's very popular on the boards. I would just much rather go with some of those other comp. I want to tell my milk thistle a second Aiden race as they give patients NAC when they're going to do contrast Imaging which they give you a die.

[00:20:24] I believe it is. I know if it's radioactive or what but it's die that they give you it protects the kidneys from damage when using contrast Anthony Roberts did and a nautical. Eight or nine years ago that showed that milk thistle actually interacted with the Androgen receptor.  I'm 99% sure what I'm saying because everybody was taking milk thistle along with their orals and he'll get us that he did an article that showed scientifically that milk thistle would [00:21:00] inhibit the effects of the orals the actual androgenic effects of the or.

[00:21:04] Yes, something sticking in my mind about that and I will ya so other items curcumin copper to your point copper being very beneficial and the fedramp double-edged sword as long as it doesn't raise your blood pressure. It will raise your HDL, which is obviously very important and then finally an oldie but a goodie assessment.

[00:21:30] Hmm. Sesame the lignum of against I've been shown to be very beneficial what I noticed about it. So I wasn't taking it just for liver kidney protection or anything. Although come to think of it. I probably should now I might waste registered at least a one inch decrease and I was eating, you know, the same amount of food.

[00:21:55] I was rather taken aback by that. Specimen used to be popular. It was [00:22:00] popular on the boards that we were on right now minded must mind and muscle because because KKK Caleb Stone was the guy who really popularized it and adding Labs was his company and mind and muscle was his was his Forum. Right?

[00:22:15] Right. And so one other final Point specimen and fish oil have been proven to be synergistic. I wish I had the studies in front of me, but I know that I know for a fact he wrote extensively about. Yeah, so Break Stuff, you know necessary stuff. If you're playing around in that area in today's environment.

[00:22:40] You got to really take better care with you have your liver because we come in contact with so many different toxins. And you know, your liver is working all day long to try to purify and move stuff out. I'm going to take a quick commercial break when we come back. We have more questions. We have the blueprint tip of the day and then Rob is going to interview me.

[00:22:57] As part of my birthday show that should be interesting stay tuned. [00:23:00] Welcome back to the blueprint power our go to Coach Rob register.com today. You will be stronger tomorrow. I can promise you that Angela De Marco says you've talked about anabolic cardio. What does this mean? I'd like examples also, why is it better than other types of cardio?

[00:23:19] People do like just plain old jogging. Sorry, Rob. Sorry. Sorry start again. Sorry good. It's all right. Can you hear me? Yeah, okay. Alright. So to me anabolic cardio means anaerobic cardio. So let me explain the difference. Typically someone will get on the treadmill or go outside and Jog will do a lot of low intensity work over.

[00:23:47] A long amount of time and there's a time and a place for that. However.  Matching your cardio to your training in performing. Anaerobic cardio has several [00:24:00] advantages not the least of which is if you become proficient at anaerobic cardio, you can certainly go out and jog for miles and miles. Okay like that other person.

[00:24:12] However, The reverse is not true, you take someone who jogs for miles and you haven't performed sled work. For example, they're going to be really sucking wind. There's the probably not even going to have the power to push or pull slit, but let's let's get to a practical example, one of the things that I'll do with a Prowler which is just a fancy name for weight slit.

[00:24:38] Is that I will have a hit my son do this the other day. I called him up and down the mountain so he will start for example with 25 pound plate and he'll push the sled a hundred and twenty hundred thirty feet and then he'll pull it backwards with some handles that I have.  We'll add another 25 pounds in he'll go up and [00:25:00] back we will continue doing that until he can no longer push or pull the slide.

[00:25:05] It becomes too heavy. At that point we start reducing by 25 pounds of trip until he gets down to where he started at 25 pounds. He is Thoroughly trashed after that. So let me explain know what that means.  When you're doing things like sled work the muscles in addition to the heart and lungs. Are at a very high activation level, obviously if you're going to push and pull a lot of weight that only happens one way the beauty in it is this there is no negative or eccentric portion where your lower the weight.

[00:25:48] It is pure concentric work that facilitates much better blood flow. You get a credible pump doing sled work the right kind of slick work and reap [00:26:00] all of those benefits. Specifically, let's take a look at if you're training is along the lines of 5 sets of 5 with 2 minutes in between sets you time that set of five sets of five.

[00:26:13] I'm betting it's going to be around 20 seconds. Okay for your flood work, you would load an appropriate amount of weight on the sled and Sprint for 20 seconds then rest for 2 minutes spread for 20 seconds rest for two minutes. Do that five times do that 10 times you become proficient at that you're going to be able you're going to be shocked at how much easier your five sets of five are okay.

[00:26:39] It's huge. So it's unconventional and you can do other things to swinging awaited Sledgehammer flipping tires, you know, the battle ropes it goes on and on and on I would not waste time. Doing low-intensity steady state training. The only time you would do [00:27:00] that is when let's say you perform two or three hit sessions back to back to back and you can no longer register and increased fi, you know, then it's time to do 20 30 minutes of walking or what have you but it's far far outperforms traditional card.

[00:27:19] So Tim Bruce has a question. How much to Dhaka does Rob recommend for liver protection? You know, I think it varies on body weight. I have my son taking 250 milligrams, but I have seen dosages up to 750 milligrams. I think it varies. I think it varies with bodyweight. I think it varies with the compound that you're using.

[00:27:45] But you should know from blood work in short order. How much is enough?  I think the label recommendations on the product that I got him said one 250 milligrams capsule. He takes it at the same time you takes [00:28:00] that other God awful stuff that's supposed to kill the fungus. You know, I mean, you know, you know LL 3 7 works for that nail fungus and it doesn't have any of the negative side effects of d.

[00:28:12] The stuff that goes through your liver just I'm trying to ruin it. I would love to give it to him, but I can just imagine my once you're going to what you're going to put a needle in him and it's just you know, Tony Massaro says I'm doing everything I can to add weight. I mean the body weight but nothing is working.

[00:28:31] Can you tell me if some people just aren't meant to put on muscle because it's feeling more and more like this is the case for me. You know, it is true that much like exposure to high intensity sunlight. Some people only burn and peel and other people only tan that same Dynamic exist to a certain degree in weight training.

[00:28:56] There are some people that were just genetically set up [00:29:00] to lift big weights and build a lot of muscle. There are other people primarily extreme at the Moores. Like I was when I started where. It will be the struggle of your life, you know, you will fight and scratch for every time but it's worth looking at the three fundamentals right training diet and rest because if you're not gaining the answer lies in one of those so we'll take them step-by-step training wise your first stop.

[00:29:32] Not your last resort should be abbreviated training twice a week compound movements only Progressive. Overload. It's very simple. Unfortunately, it's the last resort for a lot of people when nothing works for hardgainers. It seems to strike our gainers and certainly people over 40. It seems to strike the optimal balance between work and Recovery.

[00:29:57] As far as the rest goes you [00:30:00] absolutely need to be getting anywhere between eight and 10 hours of rest is for especially if you're young and you're still growing. To get optimal muscle growth your body repairs and we you know recovers when you sleep and is obviously if you're not sleeping it's going to short-circuit things but it is the final fundamental diet where most people fall down.

[00:30:25] So I'm going to I'm going to just tell you tell it like it is calories is what you should be focusing on even more so than protein. Okay calories. In order to game someone like a like a rectum or myself calories need to be said that 20 times body weight and some people may require up to 25 and over it really it depends.

[00:30:55] When you do that though, you need to make a decision. Do I want to build as much muscle as [00:31:00] possible and take as much space up on this planet as I can or do you want to be pound for pound sterling if you want to hear if you instead want to be pound-for-pound strong then I would tell you that calorie should be set up body weight times 15.

[00:31:15] Okay in the example going the other way if you're a very heavy person naturally. Damn, you want to you know, pursue pound-for-pound strength, then, you know getting some weight off is going to be your first priority. You can do that by setting body weight by 10 for cat for your calories that usually starts moving the needle moving it up removing it down.

[00:31:43] You need to go do fine-tune adjusting from there. But always remember this every food label is since 2000 calories. That's what a normal person eats every day. If you want to be bigger and stronger than normal person. We need to eat more than 2,000 [00:32:00] calories. That's just the basic laws of thermodynamics, you know, the athlete Lux and oh he competed at the Arnold and the Olympia and I mean the guy is a he's handsome.

[00:32:13] He's got an amazing physique. I think he's originally from the UK. He did a YouTube the other day and I happen to listen to. Yeah, and and someone said to him, what does it take to be huge and his entire YouTube discussion focused on diet and he talked about his training a little bit, but he said I eat 10,000 calories a day.

[00:32:36] You may be able to eat that 10,000 calories a day one or two days in a row. He says but I have to do it every single day without without for every single week for every single month for every single year. Now. I'm just looking at his his weight and he when he steps on stage. He's 255 pounds. So so he's eating 40 [00:33:00] times body weight body, not 20.

[00:33:05] Well, and again, there's a great example of someone who I'm guessing he had to do it through trial and error saying I need this amount of calories to grow it has been said and I absolutely believe this is true. The real struggle is not in the gym training intensely. The real struggle is the battle with the knife and the fork it is you need to find ways to get those calories in and you can drink a thousand a lot easier than you can eat a thousand, you know.

[00:33:33] The biggest power lifters Eddie. What's his name? The guy who three all Eddie Hall these guys eating ten twelve fifteen thousand calories a day right eating. I mean, they're eating non-stop all day long and when they're not eating they're lifting and when they're not eating or lifting they're in the bathroom dumping their job.

[00:33:56] That's it. That's their job. That's it. We were job. So [00:34:00] you gotta think of the think of it think of yourself more like cattle. What do they do to cattle they feed them so that they get bigger and bigger and bigger. That's how you want to do yourself, right? That's it. Hey, can we take a quick break?

[00:34:12] I need to give these dogs something to calm down. Absolutely. Here we go right back. Welcome back. Rob's not back yet, which means the dogs have taken him hostage. Serious. Are you serious? Hold on bring his camera.

[00:34:34] The dogs take you hostage. Well, I gave him some peanut butter. Oh, yeah. Now they're going to do in this now, right? Yeah, exactly. Hopefully it'll last a little while hopefully.  So anyway, the next question comes from.  Sorry. Mike Rinaldi, he says something young of getting on HRT. What can you tell me about [00:35:00] dosages and what to expect I've been training for about 10 years, but have definitely lost a step.

[00:35:08] Hoping to that I can turn things around. What do you. Well, this is a really interesting question Beyond. I'm going to come at it from my perspective and where I was I think looking into and getting on HRT, especially if you need it is one of the better things you can do not just for what's going on in the gym, but for your quality of life and the people around you I will tell you that when my testosterone levels were very low.

[00:35:41] I was not a pleasant person to be around grumpy grumpy. Every everything we could we could do we could actually abolish Grumpy Old Men from America if we would just get them on testosterone therapy, you know, that is not an incorrect statement. [00:36:00] That is how I'm going to I'm going to tell you one of the psychological parts of it, right?

[00:36:03] So I was talking to a good friend of mine recently who's now 64 and I'm not going to say his name. And he's not on testosterone and he probably would never get on testosterone. Although maybe I could convince him. I don't know and so he said I'm really sad I said, what do you said about he goes, you know, when I when I grab my wife he goes, I I don't get aroused this quickly anymore.

[00:36:28] And that makes it he said and makes me really sad. I always love the fact that you know, I could get aroused quickly and. You know, they're both retired now and they're both at home and they he's a millionaire. He worked in the sanitation department. He sold his house in Queens for 980,000. He's got a farm upstate New York.

[00:36:47] He said, you know, it makes me sad. I just raised Rob's Mike. I don't know why it got low, but it should be louder now count to five Rob 12345. [00:37:00] I'm hoping that's better. Let me know Tim. But he says, you know, I just feel like I feel like there's a time has passed and it makes him very sad and sadness is depression and depression leads to grumpiness because you just don't look forward to life anymore.

[00:37:16] Yes, and it has a nasty way of creeping into other parts of your life like for example work.  You know work is stressful enough. Never mind. Everything is the glass is half-full, right? Or half empty but where is your mother? It is actually the mic now. Okay. It's on the side of your face. Okay, Tim.

[00:37:39] Let me know if that's better, please. So anyway, so this is a big decision and one in which I would encourage every man listening to at least look into because of what the way you turn things around for me. They were giving me all sorts of antidepressants at least one of which may be suicidal [00:38:00] testosterone was the best.

[00:38:03] I've ever used and it goes hand-in-hand with the real best answer for depression train, you know, I did feel good while I was training but when training ended, you know, everything was dark and gloomy once I got on HRT that all turned around now some important caveats.  Where you go makes a difference.

[00:38:30] So for example up here in the Northeast. You would be lucky to find a doctor to prescribe you a hundred and twenty-five milligrams of testosterone week. They're typically I was started on 80 when I went to my current HRT doctor. He said he said we give that to women never mind Mac Okay, so.

[00:38:58] doctors in [00:39:00] Florida. In other parts of the country, I'm guessing California her going to be a lot more liberal in their prescriptions. I have seen people's HRT doses as 400 up to 400 milligrams a week, which is very substantial. Okay, and. I've been one of those people that has experimented with that range of dosages not like you Carl, but I learned a few things and those few things were this.

[00:39:32] Less is more. You know what at one point I had so much extra. I went up to 600 milligrams a week. Will you put on weight faster that way? Yes, a lot of it frankly is the blow. There are other things to consider such as you know conversion to estrogen I do not have that issue. I've never had it. I was prescribed Arimidex just in case I do not use it and I think [00:40:00] I'm being born out by that given a lot of the recent data, but there are other things DHT conversion.

[00:40:08] If you have any incidence of male pattern baldness, it'll accelerate that. So subsequently I experimented where today it's you know, I do one shot subcutaneously over a hundred milligrams twice a week.  200 milligrams gives me testosterone levels in the upper third of the range, you know above 750 750 to a thousand.

[00:40:35] and I. Almost all of the benefits right will be even higher dosages without some of the things that are problematic such as polycythemia, right we talked about this before for some reason in adult white males from certain parts of Europe the blood you produce. Too many red blood cells your [00:41:00] hematocrit and hemoglobin gets too high.

[00:41:02] It can thicken the blood the solution is relatively simple. It's right give a pint of blood every six weeks or so six to eight weeks. Unfortunately, that's not something you would feel that is something that you would only see blood work. So if you're a person that's doing Do It Yourself HRT. I would highly encourage you to be under the care of a physician.

[00:41:27] No physician is going to rat you out or turn you in to the authorities even seeing the doctor once a year is preferable to nothing because polycythemia is frankly is not something that you can feel, you know, any working in it dangerous. It's very very dangerous. Very dangerous like I don't know this for a fact yet because the autopsy results aren't in but I would be willing to bet my friend died from that.

[00:41:55] Because he had been on for a long time on at least [00:42:00] three different drugs that bill blood viscosity. We talked about this the other day blood viscosity leads with dr. Tulley Otto's blood viscosity leads to heart failure over time. It's high blood pressure. And and high blood viscosity makes the heart work so much harder, and it really mean it's very very damaging to the heart over long periods of time, right?

[00:42:23] And again blood pressure is another one. You can't feel it. Maybe there's a reason they call it the silent killer. Okay, look long story short finding a doctor who prescribed you meaningful levels of testosterone if you can't find one keep. Don't do the 80 milligrams of week group that I did because all that does is shut you down, right?

[00:42:46] It did I got no benefits on all of the negatives.  So, you know the truth is the truth is 200 to 250 milligrams a week is perfect for HRT of a sippy innate or an Anthem. [00:43:00] Esther that's all you need. That's all right. I think I heard the show you did. I think what your new sponsor and said look if you have every six to eight weeks you have to go to give blood because you get too thick.

[00:43:10] Yeah, you're not to go too high of a dose. Exactly. You're not doing HRT. Right, right, you know so Timber Timber and says, I know you've been sidelined with rhabdo. How's that coming along? And how much longer do you anticipate being out of action? Yeah, that's a million dollar question first. I appreciate your question where I'm at is this I'm seeing the doc Weekly right for blood blood work my creatine kinase levels, which he seems to be using is the primary indicator have gone from 1500 to fourteen hundred to a thousand to 1102.

[00:43:52] I don't know where they were on my last blood draw because I called the office and they're not back yet. The so [00:44:00] that's the bad news. They need to be to you know, 200 or or under the good news is my kidney function as measured by preeminent is much better does only now a little bit higher than the top end of the range.

[00:44:15] Okay and Carl you and I were talking about this off are so so where is it going? Look, I haven't touched a waiting six weeks, maybe some. It is affecting my quality of life profoundly from the research that I've done. There is a very wide range of response to resistance exercise in terms of how much creatine kinase some people make a lot.

[00:44:39] Some people make a little some people make a lot and then come down very slowly. Well, how how do we assess whether or not the fact that you are not training that your muscles are literally eroding now. And you're getting when your muscles break down from not training. There's an inrush of creatine creatine creatine kinase as [00:45:00] well.

[00:45:00] Right? Right, and and that's that's a really good point and something that I got to think about. Although it doesn't make sense to me. You know, I'm doing nothing. I've been have so much muscle breakdown that the CK would be that high well because you have a lot of muscle that requires activation to maintain.

[00:45:20] Yeah, because I told you about a Lisa's stepdad. He has very very high creatine kinase levels and he sits all day long with his muscles are wasting away. They're not activated. So you have a lot of muscle that requires constant activation to maintain the signal to maintain that muscle and you just stop the body goes on.

[00:45:41] We don't need all this muscle anymore. So let's start getting rid of it. Yeah, and obviously that is very damaging to the psyche of someone who grew up skinny and that word still sets alarm Bells off right in my so what is the doc want to see he wants to see two [00:46:00] sets of labs back to back that show.

[00:46:01] I'm normal, which is really unfortunate because I'm anything but normal and always have them so at some point I need to make the decision. I'm going to start back. I'm going to do very light stuff probably body weight, but I need to do something. I would not have been able to do nothing for six to seven weeks.

[00:46:26] We're not for one little piece of advice you gave me which was keep doing this and you're going to be on dialysis. Yeah, that's serious. I don't know a lot about dialysis, but it doesn't sound like much it sucks. Yeah twice a week right now and not only that but you twice a week so you feel good about three days after your dialysis and then you slowly start to get brain fog and feeling crappy as the metabolites start to build up in the blood again.

[00:46:54] You don't urinate anymore. You don't wake up in the middle of the night to pee.  There's one [00:47:00] benefit I kiss but and they have to put this device in your forearm, which is so that they can hook the dialysis machine up. It's basically a piece of Plumbing. It's just disgusting. It's a pain in the ass.

[00:47:09] You don't want that. Yeah, so you talk about quality of life there. You've got no, right right. So I need to tread very lightly the Stark reality. Is that although I didn't generate, you know CK numbers to wear anywhere near what I did before when this happened to me. It is taking my body longer to recover from it.

[00:47:29] So, you know that that tells me something the met the message for you is take more rest days and training days. You do not want to be in this position. Let's let's go ahead and do the blueprint tip of the day and then we'll take a break and then you can do a brief interview for me of for my birthday.

[00:47:47] How's that? Sure. What is the blueprint tip of the day wrong tip of the day is thoughts on on how things need to change for me. So relatives are that discussion about rhabdo. I have [00:48:00] to switch my mindset and the way that I train.  in order to be safe. So what does that going to involve? At one point he looked at me and he asked me he said what are you doing?

[00:48:13] It's causing us and we'll give you an example. I go in there on Monday drop our dentists. I do one set with 20 reps followed by one set light pullovers.  You look at me. He said one set I said yeah, but do you use enough weight? Right I get to rep 15 and my body says no you're done.  at that point you use your mind to get from 15 to.

[00:48:38] And he stopped me right there and he said 15 to 20 is your red zone?  You can no longer play in the red zone or you're going to be on dialysis.  Those are his exact words. So the question becomes what do I do [00:49:00] when I start back well again and what I've learned from that article. It's going to have to be I have to tread very lightly, especially in upper body workouts, which ironically were found to stimulate more creatine.

[00:49:13] Kinase release results in more creatine. Kinase. Then de the lower body workouts. They will likely have to be bodyweight. Only Endeavors. At least first. I'm thinking handstand push ups chin UPS push ups with my feet up on the wall. Both sorts of things and and one and maybe to work sets and that's going to have to be at my other day of the week is still going to be trap artivist.

[00:49:43] I think it just delivers so much bang for the buck works every muscle in the body the question becomes. How do I progress right without playing in that red zone and there are ways to do it, but my problem is this. [00:50:00] I love training I get in the gym and the combination of the weight the music the scenery.

[00:50:12] It's a very enticing environment for me I get going and I don't want to stop I don't want to leave. I don't want this moment to end. That's literally how I feel so it's very easy for me to say. I'm going to push a little bit farther at a little bit farc and a little bit farther. I can't do it anymore.

[00:50:36] So that's going to be that on training in so far as.  making sure it doesn't happen again for medical perspective. I will likely have to visit my doctor to have blood drawn at least every other week for the rest of my life.  There is there is supposed to be a. A urine strip [00:51:00] that you can test at home.

[00:51:02] Yeah, I remember you mentioning that before. I have urinary testing strips for protein in the urine ketones yada yada, but I've never seen one for like preaching. Kennex. Yeah, there's supposed to be one because there's a girl when I did the show on rhabdo with Joe Cannon a girl was on there who had had rhabdo numerous times and now she's really has to be very careful and she said there are urine strips to test for it.

[00:51:26] Yeah. So you really good to find out where to get those urine strips for a lot of people, right? So the lesson here again free for you folks is stay out of the Red Zone. Okay, and he'd my example you need days off you cannot thank well of got next week. Also, I'm going to really push the throttle this last week.

[00:51:48] That's where I got the truck.  from now on. I need the Koch's muscle growth instead of Sledgehammer it.  and you know, you know what I'm talking about [00:52:00] there. Yeah. Well, how about just taking an exit a routine once a week into the RedZone not every single session.

[00:52:10] It's tough for me. It's tough for me to justify doing that now maybe in the future when I know I'm a hundred percent healthy, right and everything is firing also on all cylinders again. Um, but again, I have to focus on coaxing muscle growth not so I've been sledge-hammering it for 35 years. So it's tough to turn off but I need to I need to before the show started today.

[00:52:38] Rob told me one of his routines where he uses all these Advanced Techniques to stimulate the muscle and I said so somebody said to you. What's the best way to completely tear my body down? It would be that routine that you depicted, right? Yeah, intensification techniques. So let's say you're doing seated [00:53:00] cable rows you do as many reps as you can with a one-second positive and a three-second negative when you can no longer do that you do as many reps with a one-second positive and one second then.

[00:53:13] You hold as much weight statically as you can of the contracted position and then finally to really screw yourself what you perform as many partial reps in the strongest range as you can and that's what I did that last week, you know, just one of those would have been an intensification technique I did need for.

[00:53:33] Obviously for did did the damage that was it it's not it's not it's not a good idea. Not a good idea. Let's take our last commercial break when we come back. I'll submit myself to any questions you have for me. Stay tuned with Brock.

[00:53:52] Okay, I'm going to submit myself to any questions you may have. Okay. So now you got so loud. Did you figure [00:54:00] did you just adjust something on your computer? No, okay. Give me a five. One two three, four five. Hold on a second. Now. It's over driving. Let me see if I can fix that on my end. Yeah something when you got up to do something with the dogs.

[00:54:16] Yeah, something happened here a lot either.  Count to five now. One, two, three, four five one more time. One, two, three, four five. I think that's a little bit better. Yeah, it's just weird. I don't know what happened. But anyway, okay. So what questions might you have for me Robin? Okay. So I've always wanted to ask you this.

[00:54:41] You are the most knowledgeable guy when it comes to this stuff that I know and I'm very sincere about that. I don't I told my wife many times say if I get cancer or some other disease, I'm going to you first this happened later in life for you how. How [00:55:00] did you acquire so much knowledge so quickly?

[00:55:03] Well, I don't know that it was quickly. It's been 14 years to be a fair. You know, I mean, I'm in November of this year the show has been on the air for 14 years and for 14 years. I've been in University. I mean, I've interviewed anywhere from four to five days a week figure really brilliant people.

[00:55:22] So I'm just kind of like a parrot. Yeah, you've got you seem I've gotten a world-class education and in those 14 years and I say that because you and I are we're not on the same page on everything. But why would say 90% Right? Right. It took me 35 years of learning most of that stuff the hard way.

[00:55:42] It astounds me that in 14 years you were able to acquire that amount of knowledge and I was I started out saving my own life. There's nothing there's nothing that focuses you more on just a one the one job as saving your [00:56:00] own life. I mean, I was very very sick when I when I when I got sick in 1997 and I was thinking that I was going to die soon.

[00:56:12] And so I didn't care about anything else but unlocking the secrets to staying alive. And you know, it could be said that it led to my divorce because I became so narrowly focused my training and my sleep became so important to me that some would say that I kind of abdicated my role in my marriage but I wouldn't do it any other way because I wouldn't be here today if I would have stayed on that path of being that fat and being that sick.

[00:56:49] I mean my days would be spent going from one doctor to another maybe I'd still be alive, but I wouldn't I wouldn't have any quality of life. I didn't sit all day and I wouldn't wake up. [00:57:00] Like I started the show saying I love my life. I do. I love doing this show. I love being with the Lisa. I love the things we do.

[00:57:09] I mean, I'm very very I mean if I die tomorrow I have had such a great life, you know, you know, the quality of life a lot of times is representative. She's representative of your experiences in your life. I have had so many experiences in my life, you know, and when I think about all the things I started doing from the time that I was a teenager.

[00:57:36] Till when I move to Las Vegas, and I mean II have so many amazing experiences one when I tell some of the stories that I tell in mixed company, I often think these people don't believe what I'm saying. They don't believe this they don't believe I hung out with Sinatra. They don't believe that you know, like they don't how you come on you kidding me.

[00:57:56] And so I mean I've had so many great experiences [00:58:00] that. If I was stuck in a jam tomorrow and they said this is it, you know lights out. I would not say oh, but I just need one more day to do this. I just need one more day to do that. I would miss the people I love and that's all that would matter to me at that point in time.

[00:58:18] So, I mean I I have a great life, but my great life would have been cut short. If I would have just kept doing what I was doing back then and I would have gone to the doctor and I would have taken the pills. Like you told me I wouldn't be here today. I know I would and you've been doing this for what 4640 November of this year.

[00:58:39] The show is 14 years old. This show is officially the longest running without any Interruption oldest health and fitness podcast in the world. In the world matter that is a tremendous accomplishment to do in this show and I started [00:59:00] recording the shows. There was no podcasts there were no podcasts.

[00:59:05] I mean I was putting it on a website because I felt like one more people here in Louisville could listen to the show because I was on on Saturday afternoons at 12 o'clock and I was like how many people are going to actually listen to me and I figured well. My producer them was Kevin O'Neill and I used to carry a laptop in and plug it into one of the ports in his mixer and then I would hit record and then I'd go sit down and I would record the show in a WAV file then I'd convert it to an MP3 and I would put it up on my website so that people could listen to it here in Louisville.

[00:59:35] I didn't know that. People of Wisconsin or you know, I mean Sean could earn shelled kashan can earn Shield had listened to my very first show by very first podcast in Kansas. Like I never thought I was going to reach those people. I just want the people in Louisville to know who I was wow. That's incredible.

[00:59:54] So the okay. So you're new to this health and fitness world. You start a podcast. How do you [01:00:00] go about finding contact information for guys? Like dr. Mario dipasquale? Oh, that's easy stuff. I've been in sales my whole life. So I've always had a find the key decision maker at a company, right? I have my methods of bird-dogging somebody and finding them and I still do it today.

[01:00:18] But but the reality is that people like that or easier to find than sponsor. You know, they want to they want to promote their books. They want to promote themselves. They want to be interviewed on shows. So they're a lot easier to find the hard people are finding the decision-makers are companies that I can bring on as advertisers finding that person takes a lot longer the studies.

[01:00:41] There's always a way to contact the university and say can I speak to dr. Rao? Oh, he's in this department. I'll transfer you and you get somebody said hey, can you get them to return my call that those people they're out there in front? But the sponsors are harder to find much much harder. And so we're [01:01:00] all the shows that you've done have there been a anywhere.

[01:01:03] You just walked away. It's just like out of my mind was blown by that. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking one thing but it's really something else. Well, it's not even that it's several shows have changed the direction itself several interviews. I've done I've changed the direction of my show. The first one was with Randy wrote when he published muscle smoke and mirrors that book because I started out as a purely bodybuilding show.

[01:01:28] But that book showed me that bodybuilding was a small part of something much bigger and that was physical culture and physical culture was something that had to do with nutrition, you know, it was the early physical culture. Excuse me.  that. If you eat this way, it does this to your body. If you eat this way, it does this your body and then that that change the direction of the show and then it started to I started to look at longevity because of that.

[01:01:55] I was like what makes you live longer like what are you know, how can we improve our [01:02:00] longevity? Then it became healthspan. Well, who cares if you live in 290 if you're in a wheelchair for the last 30 years of your life, we're going over but the show a later show. That was a big game changer for me.

[01:02:14] To two interviews, I would say, dr. Daniel Lieberman. He is the Harvard anthropology professor and he wrote the book The Story of the human body and everybody should read that that's like the owners manual for humans. Everybody should read that book number one because it shows.  It shows what evolution?

[01:02:38] Did to us and what a gave us and it makes it makes things clear are so that's why we developed this disease when we do that. Yeah, and then the other one was Belinda Watts these book of doves diplomats and diabetes. That was another game changer again. That's that's an evolutionary book evolution.

[01:02:57] And evolutionary science [01:03:00] holds all the answers for diseases of modernity. But nobody cares about that doctors don't care about that. They don't read that they don't go. Oh, no wonder why everybody's diabetic today. Oh, no wonder why everybody is a beast today. Oh, no wonder why sleep causes disease all that stuff is found in evolutionary medicine.

[01:03:16] You can understand it. Yeah. And so when you started you were you were very heavy that's where you come from. Were you pre-diabetic or do you know? I don't know. I was hoping my blood sugar was very high was like one 145 150 fasting block. Yeah. Wow, and and what did the doctor say, you know given where you are today how they don't.

[01:03:38] I mean I have the doctors that I have now don't know the doctors. I used to know then back then the doctors. I used to see they just keep giving me different prescriptions, right? Blood pressure meds glucose disposal agents. They were giving me cholesterol medication. They would give me anxiety medication because I had really bad [01:04:00] anxiety.

[01:04:00] I was always freaked out. I always felt nervous. I always felt like oh man, something's wrong with me. And so those doctors I haven't seen those doctors and 20 years. Well, I don't even know if they're still alive some of them. I think I may have outlived some of them know how much total weight.

[01:04:18] Did you lose? Well, a hundred pounds a hundred pounds wow hundred pounds, but I found it was a hundred pounds of fat. I lost. I mean I lost a lot of fat and put on a lot of muscle. That's what I did it. It happened quickly just happened on we're slow over the course of years. I focused on getting stronger.

[01:04:38] My focus became acquisition of strength. I didn't pay attention to my body fat. I just wanted to get stronger because I knew that if I could get stronger I could beat the heart problem. Right and muscle is the metabolic vanishes you like to say my muscle is metabolic currency get into the gym and make a deposit today.

[01:04:57] In fact the first year I was doing my show a Clear [01:05:00] Channel. I close the show saying that muscle is metabolic currency get into the gym and make a deposit today.

[01:05:08] That's like that's a great way to think about. Yeah, and so and so that we're hoping that this this is a long ways off, but when you pass,  We'll all of the shows be available is you know to I got I got to start thinking about that. I got to start thinking about a legacy, you know? Yeah. So first of all, I don't want to die young because then that would kind of.

[01:05:34] Make all of this work. I'm doing or why he was wrong. He was wrong F that I don't want to listen to this guy show but you know, you're as you pointed out you probably wouldn't be here if you hadn't made those changes. Oh, no, I'm not kidding when I say that I was I had I had a heart problem. They were already talking pacemaker here.

[01:05:59] [01:06:00] Right, like I'd beat I'd be getting a pacemaker incredible absolutely incredible. And so let's talk about that leaving a legacy because that's my goal. You know my goal when I wrote my one book was I hope this book is around a hundred years after I'm gone helping guys that want to get bigger and stronger and of course it more from there.

[01:06:22] I wrote five more and the bulletin is the latest and greatest. But if you haven't already decided I would say do it make sure you have the single biggest repository with training diet longevity information anywhere. I'm sincere when I say that I mean like I've got a I've got a pretty big Library myself, but you've been you've been in business a lot longer than I have you had guests across a wider Spectrum.

[01:06:56] I think it would be a wonderful tribute to you. [01:07:00] And Alyssa to leave this behind for for people to learn I got to figure out how to do that. I have to figure out how to protect it and make sure that it's available. I would like to get to a point where every single show has been transcribed and part of a searchable database.

[01:07:15] Yes. Yep, you know, I'm transcribing every show now as we move forward I started I think the beginning of this year and so. I'm already doing that where every show is transcribed and available on my website and that also makes it searchable on Google or search engines from Psalm of I'm moving in that direction, but I'd have to go back to all the early shows and transcribe them as well.

[01:07:37] You know, it might be a nice Legacy to leave. You know, let's say half of the shows out there and have half where. People would subscribe to it together. You know what I'd rather do. I'd rather find someone to host the show.  This this is a business onto itself. It's a living thing [01:08:00] but the earns money it produces a value and really the ideal thing would be for me to find somebody who starts guest hosting for me now and then at some point in time where I say, you know, I want to go off and write I don't want to do the show every day anymore that person would step in and it's you know be lucrative for them to to host the show and keep this going and move it forward and keep it going because superhuman radio is more than just Carlin or right now, it's Carlin or but it could be the next person whose host the show and the next person after that and we could superhuman radio could be 200 years from now still pursuing.

[01:08:44] The quest to understand human performance and how to improve it how to improve health span and Longevity and everything else that goes along with it. Yeah. I thought about the same thing and it's probably the most difficult thing I've ever done. You know, how do I [01:09:00] between the books and supplements and all this I seem to be the product which is a problem play.

[01:09:08] You wanna leave right now Legacy to be continued. Will my son gravitate towards this? I don't know, you know, I have him training with me now, but you just don't know I I got into it because I had body image to soar. But that's just the plain truth of it. Right and I still have that. Although it's not you know nearly what it was but finding someone to continue your legacy.

[01:09:36] I think should be a priority because the the good that this show has done is Monumental it really is.  Exponential I am not thinking about it now because I'm not at that stage. Mentally. I still am very very deep and wanting to be here. But I know that maybe eight or nine years from now I won't want to do this anymore.

[01:09:57] And I'm and I'm going to look for somebody to drop [01:10:00] in. I really am. Yeah, it's gonna be tough, but I know there's a lot there's a lot of people in my audience that could do what I do. There's a lot of very intelligent people in this audience and they're inquisitive and they're articulate and they could do this they could do this.

[01:10:14] It takes a certain kind of drive though now, I mean you can be inquisitive and you can be articulate. You know for me, it's the last thing I think about before I fall asleep and it's the first thing I think about when I give up, that's true. Well, if we're being honest the last thing I think about before I fall asleep as Eliza.

[01:10:36] All right. Yeah, I got you. I can't get her out of my mind. That's right. We're all Lisa and I are together since 2010. Wow, and every and I still chase her around like, you know, I mean, maybe I don't know, you know, I mean, I'm I'm youthful I feel good, but she is so friggin hot. I'm sorry, right, right.

[01:10:58] Yeah, it's great to have a hot [01:11:00] wife and really helps Michael lip Pelt said something. He said your listeners are your biggest Legacy and that's true because they literally carry the torch forward. The things that we teach here, they teach other people so he's right he really is right. Yeah, that's a good point.

[01:11:17] I wouldn't have thought about that. That's really good point. You never know who you're going to inspire right when you look at all the people that Dan dushane. All these years later all these years later. So, you know never underestimate your legacy and thank you for doing what you do, and we're going to end the show on that note because I have a massage set up at four o'clock today.

[01:11:40] So I got to get all my post-production work done so I can go get a massage today. And then I mean it then I'm meeting the most beautiful woman in the world for dinner. Oh great. And that's going to be my birthday. Wish that's. Never happy birthday and I love everybody in this audience. All of you.

[01:11:57] Michael lip held Tim Bruce all of you who [01:12:00] participate I feel like I know every one of you personally because we really are part of a family and I really think that if Community makes people live longer this audience is the reason that I am I'm going to live longer this audience right here and you too.

[01:12:19] Robert and I want to thank everybody for listening today, and I'm 61. I'm getting ready to take another Turn Around the Globe baby. Here we go number 62 coming at you. I'm anymore. We'll see everybody tomorrow with more supremum radio. Thank you for listening today. And don't forget to go to Coach Rob register.com and read read read Because information is the most powerful antibiotic.

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