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Transcript to SHR # 2539 :: The BluePrint Power Hour

[00:00:00] [00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] that's called premature introduction. Today is Tuesday the blueprint power hour as the intro just gave it away. We'll be joined by my cohost and just a moment, coach Rob ruggish. Uh, before we do that, just got to pay homage to our title sponsor, legendary foods who.

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[00:00:52] Coach Rob Regish: [00:00:52] If you believe it,

[00:00:53] Carl Lanore: [00:00:53] that has nine grams of protein and less than one gram of sugar. You'll love it.

[00:00:57] Your children will love it. Buy for them as well.

[00:01:00] [00:00:59] Coach Rob Regish: [00:00:59] Without further

[00:01:01] Carl Lanore: [00:01:01] delay, I will bring my guests on my cohost, the coach, Rob ruggish. Hold on a second. Let me just. Get him back on here.

[00:01:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:09] There we go. There we go.

[00:01:11] Carl Lanore: [00:01:11] And let's run his, uh, his intro music, which was trying to you get away from this calling all blueprint army

[00:01:17] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:17] fall in line.

[00:01:18] It's time

[00:01:19] Carl Lanore: [00:01:19] for the blueprint power hour

[00:01:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:20] with coach

[00:01:21] Carl Lanore: [00:01:21] Rodriguez on the superhuman

[00:01:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:23] radio network.

[00:01:28] Carl Lanore: [00:01:28] How you doing Robin?

[00:01:30] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:30] Doing good. Doing good. How about you?

[00:01:32] Carl Lanore: [00:01:32] I feel horrible today. It's been plaguing me. Something has been bugging me for the past. A few days. I'm not sure what it is. I kind of shared with you off the air. And then on top of that, I woke up this morning and my right eye is all bloodshot and feels like a, it feels like the eyelid itself is irritated or something, but it's not conjunctivitis because I don't have any of the itchy burning or sensitivity to light.

[00:01:54] That is a telltale sign of, of conjunctivitis. So I'm sure it'll go away in a couple of days. Other than [00:02:00] that, I'm doing great.

[00:02:02] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:02] Well, listen, I've got a couple issues too, so maybe I'll detail later in the show.

[00:02:06] Carl Lanore: [00:02:06] Yeah. Well, you can just call this, sorry. Yes. Old men's show,

[00:02:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:10] right? Uh,

[00:02:13] Carl Lanore: [00:02:13] what's new with you.

[00:02:15] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:15] I had, I'll tell you.

[00:02:16] I had a rough training day yesterday. Uh, you know, I missed, uh, some crucial reps at a crucial time in the program, but. Um, that was one exercise. You know, the other three or four that I used, I was up on can hit a PR every, every week. Right. Uh, this is about being resilient and I'm going to go into that a little bit later.

[00:02:37] It's tough though. Psychologically, you know, when you're used to blowing through things and always getting them, and then all of a sudden you hit a brick wall. And then on top of that, my left arm went numb. The second. I, I did my last rep. We'll talk about that too. Um, so you and I, yeah, we're pretty much in the same boat.

[00:02:57] Carl Lanore: [00:02:57] Get ready, everybody. You're on [00:03:00] the same train. You're just not at the stop where we're at. That's all. That's the only difference. I, so let's start off with the first question. Come from gene Anderson. He says, you mentioned running on glucosamine last week, running out of glucosamine. Last week. You asked people if they knew of any sources for injectable glucosamine for your horses, uh, then mentioned boswellia again.

[00:03:20] How do these things compare to INSEAD's like Advil and Tylenol.

[00:03:25] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:25] Yeah. So the bad news is the supplement industry has not yet come up with something. That's going to be an effective treatment for arthritis, right? To be fair though, neither as big pharma. And they've got billions of dollars to throw at the problem.

[00:03:40] The good news is that the sports and tuition products that we do have that are geared toward joint relief. In my opinion, they are far, far more effective. Uh, for their stated purpose than let's say the muscle building and fat loss products, which most of which are miserable failures. [00:04:00] Generally speaking though.

[00:04:02] So your comparison is this generally speaking, uh, most ensades non steroidal, right? Anti inflammatory drugs work faster, uh, for say something like a headache, then their supplement counterparts. That isn't a definitive statement per se though. Right? So it would be accurate to say Aleve, Naproxen, sodium, or Advil work faster for a headache, at least for me.

[00:04:28] And I rarely get them. But when I do most things work the fastest, it would not be accurate to say, though that I get no relief from curcumin or other. You know, natural products milligram for milligram. And again, this is generalization milligram for milligram. You just need to take more of the herbs usually, and it doesn't work as fast.

[00:04:52] That's just one example though. Uh, I'm assuming he's talking about things more so. For joint pain. And that really [00:05:00] is a much more serious issue. Headaches go away, little aches and pains go away. Joint issues are usually degenerative. Um, So relative to cartilage, wasting glucosamine has been shown in some studies to be every bit as effective for pain relief, as insights.

[00:05:20] Again, just taking longer since it's, you know, mode of action is different Tylenol, Advil, Aleve. They all work by reducing the production of prostate glands. And there are all different kinds, but these particular prostoglandins are, you know, inflammatory. And so they cause pain fever, et cetera, et cetera, who coasted me and on the other hand, uh, and to a lesser extent , but glucose me, those both work to reduce pain as well, just via a much more directive effect action on cartilage.

[00:05:59] So [00:06:00] there's some controversy over whether or not it can actually regrow cartilage. We know pretty definitively from the studies I've seen. That it either stops or greatly slows the loss of cartilage right in the joints. It also has other health benefits that go way beyond joint issues. Boswellia is an herb that acts much faster to relieve.

[00:06:24] Let's say joint pain, but not still, not as fast as ensades, but it's close. Um, it works via another mechanism though. You often hear me recommending a boswellia product. That's standardized. For boswellic acids and that's because those assets are, there should be four of them. They inhibit something called five lipo oxygenase, which is an enzyme that produces leukotrienes, which cause inflammation, nobody.

[00:06:53] Uh, now that's, that's the mode of action that they speculate us well yet acts through. Uh, [00:07:00] and it works well, but I'm not convinced that that's, that's the whole story. Nobody is sure. Likewise, exactly how CSUs works. Although I think the smart money is on some sort of modification until the cortisol response.

[00:07:16] Unfortunately, it doesn't look like anybody's looking into it and that really blows my mind cause CSUs works man in it and it works fast. It works a lot faster than fish oil. It looks and works a lot faster than glucose. Meat does different things. Doesn't necessarily regrow or stop cartilage loss, but, you know, understand it's, it's a pretty potent, uh, let's say animal Jesus overall.

[00:07:40] Then I would tell you that things like glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM, curcumin, boswellia CSUs, all of those things. Work work better in my opinion, than ensades for the kind of joint pain and injuries that athletes are familiar with, several of them actually treat, [00:08:00] you know, or work on the underlying issue versus just blocking the pain cycle.

[00:08:06] Right. Um, you need to be very careful and I know a lot of people, you use a lot of insights, um, women, especially. Well, you know, you can't be taking them every day. And so, as an example, I recently got a text and a phone call ultimately from a guy who said, Hey man, um, I was taking NSAIDs for, he was taking them for a long time.

[00:08:30] It was like a year, a year or more, but he was taking them every day and he had developed kidney issues. And so, and they're also, you know, can be liver toxic. That's another concern. So just be aware there's, there's some toxicity there associated with frequent and long duration use. Here's the bottom line.

[00:08:51] You should try all of the natural compounds. I think at some point, just to get familiar with how your body reacts to each [00:09:00] one, which one works best. Um, I am excited to report that in next month's bulletin, I'm going to be bringing forth information on a product that outperformed both glucosamine and chondroitin and handily at that in several double blind placebo controlled studies, I will be detailing those studies.

[00:09:21] How much was used, et cetera, et cetera, and where to get it at a very reasonable, you know, two months supply for 50 cents a day. Know to me that's exciting stuff. And I ultimately, I hope I'm able to share it here, um, because I think it's gonna help a lot of people. Cool. Yeah, it's very cool. I was really excited.

[00:09:46] Carl Lanore: [00:09:46] I ha I have a, uh, a company running underneath the, on the bottom of the screen here, as it says, thymus and beta four for kidney damage. If you have suffered kidney damage, the greatest thing you can take is timeless and beta four, because it [00:10:00] actually can reverse the damage, uh, and even advanced kidney

[00:10:05] Coach Rob Regish: [00:10:05] failure.

[00:10:06] Uh,

[00:10:06] Carl Lanore: [00:10:06] Terrence Taylor says, I never hear you talk about greens. Type products. Do you think they have a value? And if so, what

[00:10:15] Coach Rob Regish: [00:10:15] is it? Yeah. You know, he's right. Um, I don't give Green's type products. The respect. That, that they really deserve. And in part that's because Green's products get lost in the hype of testosterone boosters, Creotine right.

[00:10:32] Protein powders, and pre-workouts greens product people kind of look at it at least hardcore lifters and they say, Hey, you know, that's for general health unhealthy. I don't need that. Um, and. Yeah. You know, discretionary income being what it is. A lot of people don't have money for both, but I'm here to tell you that a greens product, in my opinion, is, is a wise investment.

[00:10:59] Carl Lanore: [00:10:59] What if you're getting a [00:11:00] lot of greens in your diet already?

[00:11:01] Coach Rob Regish: [00:11:01] Well, that's where I was going next. I personally think that making your own greens product, uh, mixing things like kale, spinach, et cetera, et cetera in a blender is probably optimal. Probably, but here's the problem. You either have to grow or shop for all the ingredients and then blend them up and then some, somehow get them down.

[00:11:23] And the reason I say that is, especially if you've got a decent kale on there, it's bitter as hell, but I, I, I would, uh, I think I've found something that helps. I know I found something else. Sweetened it with some glycine, but watch what happens. It makes it a lot more palatable. So, you know, if you've never blended spinach, watercress, Kao, alfalfa, et cetera, maybe the first to tell you it's messy.

[00:11:55] Right? Looks, it looks like somebody just mowed the lawn in it. Rain. [00:12:00] That's what it looks like. Um, These days, I would rather incur the additional small expense of a premade formula, preferably something in capsules. Um, there's a, there are a couple out there. Um, one that I like is called Al Coplex. I've seen it both as our complex and our complex green, but it contains nine of these deep green super foods.

[00:12:27] Right? Spirulina, chlorophyll. Uh, there's a spinach extract. Those are the, the heavy hitters, but also six others. Um, for anyone that doubts. What, you know, what a nutrient powerhouse, some of these things are head on over to pub med and punch in spirulina and start reading. It's one of the most nutrient dense compounds on earth.

[00:12:52] And you're going to be plenty shocked as to what you read is really some interesting stuff, especially, [00:13:00] um, the studies that I read on young groin, boys that are still growing, um, and using this as a protein source. It was really amazing. Um, otherwise I have long touted the, uh, the benefits of at least trying to be in an alkaline state.

[00:13:20] And I understand your body regulates that it stays within a very, very narrow range. Um, but when I see everyone in their brother in the population popping antacids at work and other places, it tells me something. You know, did you ever see anyone popping, you know, anti alkalizer? No. They all take the antacids for

[00:13:45] Carl Lanore: [00:13:45] everybody.

[00:13:45] In all fairness, Rob is very, very, very, very different

[00:13:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:13:49] reason that people take antacids.

[00:13:51] Carl Lanore: [00:13:51] So GERD is a condition, not of hyperacidity at all. It's a condition of the esophageal sphincter [00:14:00] failing and allowing the contents of your stomach to come up into your throat. It's not because you have too much acid, some would argue that you don't have enough acid and that's why you do develop GERD.

[00:14:10] So I just want to kind of balance where you're going with that, with that comment.

[00:14:15] Coach Rob Regish: [00:14:15] That's interesting. I appreciate that. And you know, you're probably right. Um, so like I said, whenever I see something like that, it makes me feel sick. It just, it causes me to think, um, the good news is what, you're, what you were describing that condition for whatever reason.

[00:14:33] Um, People get relief from greens products when they have quote unquote acid reflux, I've just, I've seen it over and over a million times, you know, it's probably better to fix the underlying issue. I don't know if there is a fix for it the way you describe it. Um, but it's just an observation on my part greens products do that very well.

[00:14:56] Very well.

[00:14:56] Carl Lanore: [00:14:56] So, so would you, would you be, but I'm with you, I think [00:15:00] blend your own greens and make it at home. Instead of, cause the other thing that I, that I had put up while you were mentioning this is that if you buy a greens product, make sure it's organic because not only they concentrating the good things about the vegetables that they using in their powder, they're also concentrating pesticides and herbicides that are sprayed on those crops.

[00:15:20] If they're not organic, right.

[00:15:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:15:23] Yeah, that, that that's a good point. And one of the reasons why, uh, there was a girl I dated, she grew all this stuff in her backyard, so we use perfect juice. Um, and so as a tip, um, I used, I've mixed it in two things. Let me get it down, placing and, um, vegetable juice. Right? If you think about it, it's a nice base for a greens drink.

[00:15:46] Great idea. Yeah.

[00:15:48] Carl Lanore: [00:15:48] Like a vegetable broth and a can organic vegetable broth. Yeah.

[00:15:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:15:51] Yeah. Yeah. Really cool.

[00:15:53] Carl Lanore: [00:15:53] Yeah. That's a great idea. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you. There's a, there, there are a lot of people out there who would benefit [00:16:00] from it in increasing, uh, the vegetable intake, but they, they just don't for whatever reason.

[00:16:05] And that a greens powder is a great way to get it. If that's what you want, just make sure it's organic.

[00:16:13] Coach Rob Regish: [00:16:13] That's why I was drinking. I hated shopping for preparing and. Eating the vegetables, most of them. So I did, Greenstreet worked, right? Yeah.

[00:16:23] Carl Lanore: [00:16:23] Bobby McCullough says I tried some hydrolyzed casein the other day and it didn't, I didn't notice anything dramatic.

[00:16:30] I thought this stuff was supposed to be great for recovery, but it isn't and it tastes disgusting. Is it, is it, how do they, how do they assess that? It wasn't.

[00:16:42] Coach Rob Regish: [00:16:42] That's a good question. I don't know. Um, baby based on his rate of recovery and I'm looking at his question, but, but it's interesting, right? If you look strictly at the studies, hydrolyzed proteins, consisting of dying, try peptides links of two and [00:17:00] three amino acids together, whether they're casein based or whey based, um, should be.

[00:17:07] The best protein to use in and around your workouts for recovery. And so that given several of the same studies show that hydrolyzed peptides are absorbed faster than anything else. And they, they went out of their way to say, including free form amino acids, and you know what they may be right. peptides are absorbed faster.

[00:17:31] Okay. But somewhere along the way, The science didn't translate to the real world. Now think about it though. That wouldn't be the first time, right? I mean, there's, it's making a leap from the fastest absorbed protein to the best protein for recovery. Um, that's, that's, uh, a wider chasm, so to speak and, um, but [00:18:00] think about it.

[00:18:00] If it's, if it is absorbing that fast, It is quite possible that it's being oxidized that fast and the rise of amino acids in the bloodstream. Uh, the speed of which it goes up is only matched by. I would, I would quickly disappears. So I don't know if there are any particular studies looking at that. Um, what I can say.

[00:18:26] Is that hydrolyzed proteins, generally speaking produce a pretty substantial surge in insulin. And that's important to, you know, get that message across because a lot of times we think dextrose, we think sucrose, you think simple sugars do that just because something is on a sugar doesn't mean there isn't an insulin response.

[00:18:50] We know. Right. There are insulinogenic amino acids, like leucine and glutamine and you know, some, some others. [00:19:00] Um, in fact, there's usually at least some insulin response to all foods. It's just a question of how much now that, that big rise in insulin, if you're doing it, post-workout that might appeal to you.

[00:19:16] If you're looking for example, to put onsite,

[00:19:19] Carl Lanore: [00:19:19] remember, remember back in the day, a company that you and I both talk about, uh, AST research. I remember back in the day, their whole thing was first thing in the morning. When you wake up, have sugary cereal to spike insulin. Do you remember Jeff? What was the guy's name?

[00:19:35] Jeff. Something the big guy with the black. Yeah, he used to, he used to be a big proponent. Of like wake up and have something really sweet, very sugary cause you want to get insulin spiked. And now in retrospect, we look at that and think possibly the stupidest idea in the world, uh, because insulin spiking, without the appropriate essential amino acids [00:20:00] and without pre, without the preceding workout to turn on the, the switches that stimulate protein synthesis, just going to go to fat.

[00:20:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:20:10] Yeah. I was going to say if it's 10 things up for fat storage. Right, right. And, and so whenever you elevate insulin understand, it should be in the presence of at least the essential amino acids. You know, I would say preferably all of them, um, at most other times, but my issue with hydrolyzed proteins is this, um, they're extremely expensive.

[00:20:36] They don't seem to recover you any faster than say, um, individual essential amino acids, uh, are certainly sent the gym. Right. And I've done gobs of another guys too. I've tried taking me up on this. Take 10, take 20, take 30 grams of essential aminos in and around your workout. Before, after during all three doesn't matter, [00:21:00] it still doesn't work.

[00:21:01] Quite the way that the way the essentials and other things in  works button that'd be that as it may, um, hydrolyzed proteins also tastes terrible, which by the way, should be the tip off. If you buy a hydrolyzed way, you're going to know it. If it's a legit, because it should be very, very bitter discuss the string.

[00:21:27] Extremely bitter. There are a lot of companies that, that hydrolyze way is I'm the label and it's 5% hydrolyzed whey and 95%, you know, in tech protein, why do they do this? It's simple. They know people taste is important compliance with using a products to most people. Taste is really important. So when they,

[00:21:54] Carl Lanore: [00:21:54] they, so the, the, the people who.

[00:21:56] Should be focusing on the quality of their nutrition. The most [00:22:00] people who have had gastric bypass surgery, uh, because they, they end up with all sorts of nutrient deficiencies cause they don't digest anything anymore. And I had hooked up when I first introduced thrive. I had hooked up with a website that sells.

[00:22:15] Protein powders to people. Who've had gastric bypass surgery, and I explained the ban, the benefits of thrive, you know, all the stuff that's in it. And they bought a case of it and they sold it and keep in mind, it just was a 10, one pound jugs. And the reviews they got on their website was it didn't taste good.

[00:22:38] And I was like, and so these are people who literally their, their pursuit of taste caused them to become so obese that they needed a surgical intervention. So severe that it took the natural path of their digestive track then, and, and created a detour so that they wouldn't get fat again. And, and all [00:23:00] they care about is taste.

[00:23:01] It's like, well, sure. That's what got you in trouble in the first place. This is a better choice of protein powder than what you're using now, but it didn't taste good enough.

[00:23:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:09] It didn't taste. And you know what I know exactly what drives that, those artificial sweeteners.

[00:23:15] Carl Lanore: [00:23:15] Yeah. Maybe you're

[00:23:16] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:16] right. A drink, right?

[00:23:18] Some of these to flavor my water, what I found was over the over time, I needed to keep adding more and more. Because I didn't think it was sweet. And then I said, Whoa, wait a minute. You know, it's not good. You know, these things are not good period. So the defense probably meant to play. They were probably using a product laced with artificial sweetener,

[00:23:42] Carl Lanore: [00:23:42] I would imagine.

[00:23:43] But the bottom line was I'm like, this product is so much healthier than the stuff you have on your website. Yeah. But the people don't like the way it tastes

[00:23:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:50] like. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, so the bottom line on, on these protein hydrolyzed proteins, if you're looking to spend dollar one on [00:24:00] supplements, make them essential amino acids, take them prior to and or sip on them between sets.

[00:24:07] You can also take them afterwards. Uh, there is some research showing, taking them before. Um, elevated protein synthesis a couple hundred percent more than taking them after, but as long as you're getting them, you're good. There are a lot cheaper than hydrolyzed, whey, casein, or any other protein source.

[00:24:26] They, they work better in my opinion, and they're easier to flavor. If you want to get strong in a hurry, uh, if you want to get strong in a hurry and black blast through a loading pattern, you know, you. Give Cynthia Jim, a hard luck. It's the rolls Royce of recovery agents. Otherwise essential amino acids have them with you.

[00:24:49] Use them frequently grow muscle. It's pretty much that simple.

[00:24:54] Carl Lanore: [00:24:54] We're going to take a break. We have a question from, uh, from, uh, Scott Bo VAT coming [00:25:00] up in the audience. We have samurai Jack who watches. Uh, on, uh, on, on, uh, YouTube. Thank you very much. Who has a question about a replacement for whey protein?

[00:25:10] We're going to take one quick commercial break, stay tuned. You're watching and listening to the blueprint power hour here at superhuman radio network.

[00:25:19] Coach Rob Regish: [00:25:19] You were listening to the superhuman channel. Don't hate us because we feel good.

[00:25:29] Carl Lanore: [00:25:29] welcome. Back back. I keep wanting to bring the microphone closer to me, and then my voice gets too loud and people complain. So we have a couple questions we want to answer. First of all. The first one comes from samurai Jack. I'll actually the only one from him. He said his wife is allergic to weigh.

[00:25:43] What's a good protein alternative. What do you think?

[00:25:46] Coach Rob Regish: [00:25:46] Well, I'll tell you, um, a couple of different directions. You can go in here. If, um, someone is looking for something other than a way, I usually recommend [00:26:00] milk and egg protein, including one. And I think it might be the only one that has. Um, yo protein in it.

[00:26:09] So iron mind.com, they make all the best home training equipment, grippers, etc. They sell one nutritional supplement. It's called just protein. And it is as close to the original Rio Blair, you know, protein that you're going to find out there. It tastes, it has a light almond taste to it. But for some reason when you mix it with other things, it brings out the flavor.

[00:26:37] If I've never used a protein, that flavors so well, and so easily, if you're going to put fruit in there, et cetera, et cetera. So that's one direction, you know, that's another animal protein. There are some folks. Uh, the vegans who want a decent plant based protein. And in that respect, you know, they're [00:27:00] out there.

[00:27:00] I don't recall seeing one that really knocked me over other than I think Gero, um, which is, uh, a name that's been in the business a long time. Jarrow formulas has something called optimal. Plant proteins. And the reason I like the product is because, um, it includes first ingredient. If I'm not mistaken is P protein.

[00:27:27] Yeah.

[00:27:27] Carl Lanore: [00:27:27] There you go. Cause pea protein has the most complete amino acid profile of any of the plant proteins.

[00:27:32] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:32] Right. And, and the third ingredient is organic hemp protein. There there's also Brown rice and Calera and chia, et cetera, et cetera. But if you're looking for a vacant one, like you said, pea protein, most, um, plant-based products are low in one or two or more amino acids, but the way they combine them in this product, um, I just dislike it.

[00:27:59] Uh, you [00:28:00] know, I don't use it. I've only had it once. It was okay. As far as. Plant based proteins go, but it was also reasonably priced. I forgot. I think the pound was like, you know, 12 bucks, 14 bucks, something like that.

[00:28:19] Carl Lanore: [00:28:19] The next, Oh,

[00:28:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:28:20] I'm sorry. No, go ahead.

[00:28:22] Carl Lanore: [00:28:22] The next question comes from Scott Bo VAT. He says, I heard you talk before, about how much you like the full weigh neck machine.

[00:28:29] Why is that? And how much. Has your neck shrunk since not having access to it at the gym, obviously you mean?

[00:28:37] Coach Rob Regish: [00:28:37] Yeah. Well, I am in fact, a huge fan of the four way neck machine for various reasons that I'll get into. Um, and, and it's admittedly an odd time, right? An odd occurrence. When a machine would be favored over, let's say a free weight version of know working XYZ muscle group.

[00:29:00] [00:28:59] Occasionally it happens. This is one instance. Um, first things first though, my neck has not shrunk a bit. It still takes the same, right after three plus months of not having access to that for weight neck, that is only however, um, because I purchased a super strong neck harness from those folks at iron mine that I just mentioned.

[00:29:23] It's called head strap for Hercules and. I did. So, because I can't tell you the number of, of what looked like sturdy neck harnesses, you know, leather chain. I can't tell you the number that have broken. As I lift up and I've got anywhere from 50 to 100 pounds on it, most of, some of them will break even with less than 50 pounds.

[00:29:48] So I got sick and tired of, of those breaking. Um,

[00:29:52] Carl Lanore: [00:29:52] where do they break coach? Do they break the leather break? Does the connections break?

[00:29:57] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:57] They, they link, right? Yeah. [00:30:00] For whatever reason on the leather ones. Um, it's up around the ear, the stitching and. They don't around that little metal piece on the side, but look, you know, wherever they break, they break.

[00:30:16] And when you're working your neck, particularly with heavy dishes. Yeah. You don't want

[00:30:20] Carl Lanore: [00:30:20] to nap.

[00:30:21] Coach Rob Regish: [00:30:21] No,

[00:30:22] Carl Lanore: [00:30:22] that's it that's that you'll have a lifelong neck problem after that.

[00:30:25] Coach Rob Regish: [00:30:25] Yeah, exactly. So with this, with this other head harness, our neck harness. Um, I have had, I've already had, well over a hundred pounds on there and there are no worries whatsoever.

[00:30:36] There is zero chance of that thing breaking. Um, I've used it in the traditional sense, you know, where you. Performing front and back and side, you know, both sides of your neck. Uh, I have also believe it or not, uh, drag the sled with it. It's actually rated to something absurd, like 1500 pounds, which is way more than anyone, [00:31:00] including the world's strongest man is going to go lifting right with his

[00:31:03] Carl Lanore: [00:31:03] neck.

[00:31:04] Coach Rob Regish: [00:31:04] Yeah. So, so that's that, and I'm glad I bought it because you know, it's here and I'm like, you always train my neck. If I can't get to the gym. Back to the foray neck machine. The reason I favor it is because it produces, um, like all neck training, rapid gains in size and strength and related. Uh, it does that unconvinced because it allows you to work up to using very, very heavy weights, much heavier than the neck harness, as an example.

[00:31:38] Uh, I was on the four way neck machine. I was working with 250 to 275 pounds on the forward and backward on the, uh, head strap for Hercules neck harness. My limit is about 120 pounds. So, you know, pretend you're the muscle. [00:32:00] What are you going? You know, what's going to stimulate more growth, a nearly 300 pounds.

[00:32:06] Resistance level for 100, you know, it's a no brainer. Uh, now why is it allow you to use that much weight? Simple, like any other machine? It balances the weight for you, right? You need only press forward back or side to side. It's not a three dimensional thing. Like the head harness, uh, normally. In other machines that's detrimental to muscle growth, but for some reason, in this case,

[00:32:35] Carl Lanore: [00:32:35] because the neck is so much more delicate, you know, the neck is so much more delicate.

[00:32:40] And plus, you know, w when you're, when you're training, cause I train my neck and when you're training your neck, the machine is so much better because you can get in it and out of it without having to exert. Cause I used to have a, uh, one of those belt, leather belt, you know, With the chain and you're hanging the plates from it and just getting in it is a pain in the ass.

[00:32:59] You know what I mean? [00:33:00] Just getting your plates, get the change you got to play. I used to have the plates balanced on my lap. Hook it up and then I'd lift the plates and spread my legs and lean forward. You know, it's like you sit down on the machine, you put your head against it. If you go in this way, you put your forehead against it.

[00:33:16] If you go in this way and boom, you're right into the movement,

[00:33:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:33:20] as opposed to most neck harnesses, when you lift it up, you have to get it around and on your head and just look at your shoulders. You know, that's begging for a shoulder injury, in my opinion. Anyway, um, I look at, I look at the neck, uh, I guess machine like the same way I do handstand pushups, uh, or the neck harness, rather there's a balance component and there's a strength component and like hand Sam pushups.

[00:33:48] I would tell you that getting strong first is, is the most important goal. So if you had both, if you had a four way neck machine and a neck harness, [00:34:00] I would train primarily on the neck machine and maybe some supplemental work on the harness. If you don't have a four main neck machine. And I know a lot of gyms don't, I think it's a crying shame.

[00:34:11] Uh, then that neck harnesses is the next big thing. Neck training is not, you know, some vanity exercise. You use your neck, it's going to help you take a punch to the head. It is a stronger lever to use in jujitsu. If you're rolling around with people. Uh, it's going to hold up better in, in whiplash, in a car in the amount of you get rear-ended, you know, there's a lot of things beyond, Hey, he's got a huge neck.

[00:34:38] He looks like a hos.

[00:34:41] Carl Lanore: [00:34:41] So I'm no, I I'm a, I'm a big, I mean, every time I trained back, I trained neck. That's the last thing I do after I trained back as I trained neck. Cause I feel I included in the back muscle.

[00:34:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:34:50] So. Yup.

[00:34:51] Carl Lanore: [00:34:51] All right. So the next question comes from Jay Miller. He said, so I was amused by your mention of desiccated liver.

[00:34:57] Last week, you seem to [00:35:00] use a lot of iffy products like acne steroids, desiccated liver, ginger versus tried and true supplements like creatine HMB or fish oil. Why is that? So it makes me wonder sometimes if you're right about a lot of this stuff, so ginger is not an iffy. Supplement in fact, if you took the time to go to Google scholar or even pub med and just Googled the word, ginger Raul, which is the primary component in ginger, you'll find studies, literally hundreds of studies done on cancer on esophageal issues, uh, inf inflammatory chronic inflammation, inflammatory response, and in the joints, ginger is not iffy.

[00:35:48] Ginger has more science behind it. Then, then HMB are official almost likely. It's been studied for a hundred years now by the Asians. That's where most of the study starts. So Ginger's not iffy, like, [00:36:00] forget that Ginger's legit.

[00:36:02] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:02] Yeah, that was my first thought too. And I feel like reading the question. I was like, has this guy hit pub med and looked up ginger?

[00:36:10] Cause he's going to be reading for weeks days, if not weeks. Anyway. All right. So we get to the issue of, of my recommendations, my recommendations on this show. Um, and that's a big part of the show. People who have said, have told me, you know, we try, I trust your recommendations, those recommendations, however, come, not just from studies, but also how I and others have responded to certain ingredients.

[00:36:40] So unfortunately, a lot of people will look. At studies and only at studies. Uh, and when you do that in isolation, it's not, it's not good. You're not always going to wind up with the right answer. So I'm going to use HMB and equity . [00:37:00] As examples you can find on pub med, many studies showing HMB works in one case in at least one case.

[00:37:12] It works better than most steroids do. But when you look closer, you will see that all of those studies have been done or funded by people selling HMB when they did a meta study of all of the other studies, without a vested interest, they found it didn't do anything, which of course is what we see in the real world.

[00:37:37] Now. You can also find many studies showing that  works has a beneficial effect. And while no study is perfect, these studies have been done by researchers in Russia, Japan, Germany, hungry, uh, and the United States [00:38:00] and their associated universities, the vast majority of which. And this is the fact, the vast majority of which.

[00:38:07] Had no vested interest. The studies showing benefits have been done in the test tubes. They've been done on furry little creditors, and they've been done most recently on human beings, virtually all of them showing some sort of benefit. So, so you tell me what's more likely hundreds of scientists. Okay.

[00:38:34] And universities, the world over. Have conspired for decades going back to at least the 1960s. So falsify equity stare on research and, you know, and say it works when it really doesn't or,

[00:38:50] Carl Lanore: [00:38:50] and they, and they have, they have no vested interest in any gain. Let's also point that out. They're not going to make money because they don't own stock or [00:39:00] crops or any of that sort of stuff.

[00:39:02] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:02] Right. So either they're fudging it or there's something there. And when I bring that point up to the doubters about how this would have to be a decades long conspiracy covering the entire planet, all these countries, you know, what, what are the odds? Um, they realized that. You know, they realized the true answer to that question, but many of them have them quipped equipped.

[00:39:29] They don't think that the they're that's they're justified.

[00:39:35] Carl Lanore: [00:39:35] I'm sorry about that. You know, I've been running on a clock again, like when I was at clear channel.

[00:39:39] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:39] Oh five. Okay. So, so what those saying essence is, um, okay, well, you know, maybe, but, but it's not, it's not, not doesn't do. Nearly enough to justify the expense, recognizing they've lost the argument.

[00:39:55] What have they done? They moved the goal. Yeah. They shifted the argument, right? [00:40:00] That's a

[00:40:00] Carl Lanore: [00:40:00] complete, but it's expensive. Well, wait a minute. You said it doesn't work. So now you're saying it does work, but it's expensive. Let's be clear before we move on to the next discussion here.

[00:40:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:40:09] Right? So regardless, um, it's not my job to convince people that these merit, if you like it, right.

[00:40:17] If you don't like it, that's great too. Does it? Doesn't doesn't affect me. Uh, it is my job to give an opinion when I'm asked. So that's what I do. Now there are other pro I think he mentioned other stuff. Uh, liver, maybe desiccated liver,

[00:40:34] Carl Lanore: [00:40:34] liver, devastating liver has been studied and liver is a food it's like, we know that liver has a value.

[00:40:39] We don't have to do studies on it doing

[00:40:42] Coach Rob Regish: [00:40:42] well. And, and you know, the ones that we've done, at least the one I'm thinking of and I've read was. Funded by not company selling liver, but by the office of Naval research, you know, and there are some pretty damn striking photos of rats that, that got [00:41:00] injected with cortisone and one group got liver and the other one didn't.

[00:41:05] And the one that didn't looks like it's on death's door. Okay. Now that's the saying nothing of the fact desiccated liver has been used, repeat buys over a period now of almost 70 years. Okay. We discussed the ginger thing. You know, you need gonna leave, go to a bed. You'll see what we're talking about.

[00:41:27] Carl Lanore: [00:41:27] I mean, so I want to talk about something real quick in that vein, because I don't know if you actually ever talked about this on the air, but Jen had something on her skin that was going a little wonky on her.

[00:41:37] Right. And we talked about putting, applying ginger powder directly to her skin. And what was the, what was the end result of that?

[00:41:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:41:49] She went back to, um, the dermatologist took the bandage off. Apparently the dermatologist's look at it and said something like, wow. [00:42:00] Uh, and she, she, I guess as a precautionary measure, she dug out, you know,

[00:42:08] Carl Lanore: [00:42:08] That area, the area,

[00:42:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:10] whatever was left, but I'll tell you, I really wish we took pictures, you know, the before and after picture was, was started with,

[00:42:17] Carl Lanore: [00:42:17] well, well, how many millimeters would you if it was round and I'm sure it wasn't round because those types of things usually have an uneven edges.

[00:42:25] How many millimeters was it originally? Would you say five, four,

[00:42:28] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:28] two. You know, I'm thinking six to eight.

[00:42:32] Carl Lanore: [00:42:32] And how many millimeters was it when she went back to the doctor after applying ginger powder directly to the area.

[00:42:39] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:39] Two to three.

[00:42:40] Carl Lanore: [00:42:40] Okay. So,

[00:42:41] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:41] and it's important to point out she didn't do it. She didn't do it as consistently as she

[00:42:45] Carl Lanore: [00:42:45] should.

[00:42:45] Have you told me that, right? Cause it kind of burned a little bit, right?

[00:42:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:49] Yeah. The first time I put it on she's like, Oh my God. He said, yeah, that's strong. You don't realize how strong ginger is. So,

[00:42:58] Carl Lanore: [00:42:58] um, [00:43:00] hold on. I'm putting a skin cancer. I'm putting this up for the people who are just looking. So people may not know this, and if I can help one person, uh, avoid the perils of skin cancer from this.

[00:43:17] So there are studies showing rodents that would given an injection of a chemical that causes spontaneous skin cancer and, and evolves into tumor. Growth on the skin. So these little, these little rodents, they look like, like they've got little mushrooms all over their skin because they get just skin cancer everywhere.

[00:43:38] Coach Rob Regish: [00:43:38] Right?

[00:43:39] Carl Lanore: [00:43:39] And one group, they put a saline directly on the area and the other group, they put ginger extract and saline. They made a poultice out of it. They put that directly on and the skin cancer went away in the road and they got the skin cancer. Now think about this for a second, just applying [00:44:00] ginger powder on the skin cancer makes it go away.

[00:44:04] Now, when has your dermatologist told you, huh? That is a questionable, uh, area there on your skin. We're concerned about it. Um, we're going to do a biopsy of it. Why haven't they ever said to you before we do a biopsy and find out if it's malignant or whatever, I want you to go home and put ginger powder and water on like who's ever heard that.

[00:44:29] Nobody, but it cures skin cancer directly applying ginger to skin cancer, cures C U R E S. Cures skin cancer.

[00:44:40] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:40] Every Monday, what, who walks into a dermatologist office should be handed a bottle of ginger. That's just my opinion after seeing it in action. Okay. Um, ginger falls into a class of, uh, of preventative right things.

[00:44:57] And that's the rub with preventative preventatively. If, [00:45:00] if you were, if you were destined to get cancer, but because of ginger and whatever else you're using you didn't. How would you know

[00:45:10] Carl Lanore: [00:45:10] yeah. How do you prove it? Right,

[00:45:11] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:11] right. It's not like you ordered the doctor and he looks at you and he says, yup. You sure as hell, should they got skin cancer, but you didn't because of that, judge.

[00:45:20] No, that's not what happens. So how many P and, and, you know, I often think about this, how many people out there are walking around today? Cancer-free that have been using ginger that otherwise might be dead.

[00:45:35] Carl Lanore: [00:45:35] I mean, this is important because there are twin studies. There are studies on models. I got a twins who have led different lives and one girl got breast cancer and the other one didn't.

[00:45:48] And if that doesn't prove at a minimum, that cancer is not a disease of genetics. Because if it was a disease of genetics, regardless of lifestyle, both women get cancer. [00:46:00] Motto is I go to Quinn's, they're literally mirror images of each other, and one gets cancer. The other against cancer. That's it. That's that's, that's the genetic model.

[00:46:09] You, you are genetically going to get cancer. We better lock those breasts off now, before you're older, that's what people do. But we know that epigenetics is more important than genetics. More important than genetics, because then you can navigate life and avoid the things that are going to unlock your genes to cause diseases.

[00:46:34] One of those things is ginger included in your, in your meals, you know, a couple times a week, um, by ginger extract powder. You know, put it on your oatmeal. Uh, you know, and, and if you do have a questionable skin thing, like, man, what is that? That's ugly. It's kind of red and the edges, all weird. Looking, get some ginger powder, put a little drop of water on it, put it right on [00:47:00] there, cover it with a bandaid, change it every day, put fresh ginger on it.

[00:47:02] Watch it go away. You've heard it here. You've heard of it. Yeah. Cause skin cancer is the number one cancer killer in America. You know, that right.

[00:47:14] Coach Rob Regish: [00:47:14] More common than all of the combined.

[00:47:17] Carl Lanore: [00:47:17] And, and if friggin ginger could save lives, you know, let's just do it. Yeah. Let's just do it. We have to, we have to take a commercial break.

[00:47:25] When we come back, we have the blue blueprint tip of the day, which is a, it's going to be a bond burner. So stay tuned. We'll be right back. Drawn in brains. Finally meet

[00:47:43] So I have to put this up first. Dave Hartnett puts something up very, very good. I want to put this up. He said ginger is also great for healthy lipids and arterial plaque prevention.

[00:47:53] Coach Rob Regish: [00:47:53] Uh, many good studies.

[00:47:54] Carl Lanore: [00:47:54] And there you go. So here's a guy who knows ginger is not. Some [00:48:00] obscure, you know, sideline supplement.

[00:48:02] It's, it's been part of Chinese traditional Chinese medicine for thousands of years, by the way, also. So thanks. Thanks for that, Dave. And also before we get into the blueprint tip of the day, coach,

[00:48:15] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:15] um,

[00:48:16] Carl Lanore: [00:48:16] I'm wondering if we could, uh, keep you around after the blueprint tip of the day, because I have an announcement I want to make.

[00:48:24] Sure.

[00:48:25] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:25] Okay. So let's do this. So

[00:48:27] Carl Lanore: [00:48:27] I'll give you the stage now and then we'll take a break and we'll come back. This is something I've been working on for two years. I've I've intimated about it on the show here and there, but it's finally ready to go and I'm very excited about it. And it's actually a contribution to the pharmaceutical industry.

[00:48:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:44] What Carl?

[00:48:45] Carl Lanore: [00:48:45] Yes, but stay safe. Stay with me. Go ahead, coach. Go ahead. So the

[00:48:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:49] typical day. The tip of the day is thoughts on persistence during times of adversity. So when you're hitting on all cylinders and [00:49:00] you're training, right, it's a beautiful thing. There are days when the weights are going to feel really light and it feels like you, you could double the number of reps that your program calls for.

[00:49:12] I've had those days and there they're terrific. There are days when you're looking at the weights you have to lift and you know, you have a little bit of trepidation surrounding that. Um, the weights don't feel light. They may even feel heavy. But you grind through it and you get your target reps for the day.

[00:49:31] In my opinion, those are the best days. Um, because there's right, there's a challenge. There's a real challenge to rise to. And then there are days when you walk into, into the gym and it feels like somebody turned the gravity up yesterday was just such a day for me. So. Uh, I am in week nine of the 12 week program for trap bar dead lifts and the workout call for two sets of [00:50:00] three reps, uh, with 450 pounds.

[00:50:04] Now, bear in mind, everything up to this point has gone just swimmingly. Uh, even when I had to take a few weeks off to rest my lower back, I, I still got all of my assigned reps. Uh, including after that break, which really surprised me. And then wham, I pulled four 50 yesterday, but it was ugly. I guess I would not be proud to videotape this and share this with anybody, not the kind of form you

[00:50:35] Carl Lanore: [00:50:35] call them.

[00:50:35] You couldn't have hitched it. Right. Cause you couldn't you're it's a hack you're you're you're you've got the triangle, I mean the, uh, octagon bar. Right?

[00:50:43] Coach Rob Regish: [00:50:43] Right.

[00:50:43] Carl Lanore: [00:50:43] So you rested against your thighs and hitch it up. So.

[00:50:48] Coach Rob Regish: [00:50:48] Well, thank God. No, I wouldn't be too ugly. A thunder. I wouldn't want to see it again. Let me put it that way.

[00:50:55] Um, but to make matters worse. As soon as I put the weight down [00:51:00] my entire left arm right down on my fingers goes no. And so needless to say at that point, I had to rethink things a little bit. If I was 25 years old, again, I might try, I might go back and try for 50 again, but at age 50 and you got a wife and son, you need to err on the side of caution.

[00:51:25] So I stopped. And I waited for a few minutes and there was no numbness in my arm, but went away rather quickly. So I finished, uh, with some grip work, some hyperextension and some AB work.

[00:51:40] I was really upset. Oh. And still am to a certain degree. Um, Because I thought the first thought that I had was nine weeks of work, hard work down with you. Uh, I had a Cairo practor appointment right after that, which I went to and it was [00:52:00] there where I more or less figured out. It's a pinch nerve. Um,

[00:52:06] Carl Lanore: [00:52:06] coming out of your neck, coming out of your neck,

[00:52:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:09] it has to be because

[00:52:11] Carl Lanore: [00:52:11] when you pull, do you tend to look up.

[00:52:13] You look up at the wall, you look up at the sky, you look up at the ceiling, what do you do?

[00:52:18] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:18] No, I look forward. Okay. I look forward. So

[00:52:21] Carl Lanore: [00:52:21] that theory,

[00:52:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:23] but, but, but what I did notice, um, was the way I'm sitting right now. If I lean forward and I, I put my elbows on my knees and I kind of rest them there. I noticed that when I did that, the left arm went numb again.

[00:52:39] Right. And. And, but then I noticed if I turn my neck to the right, it goes away. I turn it to the left. The arm starts tingling again. Right. So, uh, that's not optimal. That's not necessarily a good thing. Did the Kairos

[00:52:58] Carl Lanore: [00:52:58] work on your neck? Did he [00:53:00] pull your head? Did he cause you traction?

[00:53:02] Coach Rob Regish: [00:53:02] He did. And I noticed an improvement.

[00:53:07] Um, And I'm continuing to see improvement in it. Now, pinched nerve is not a great thing, especially in the neck, if that's what it is, but, uh, it beats having a heart attack or a stroke or some kind of, some kind of blockage there. Uh, but I was, I was still steaming over. Not getting things, at least the way I wanted them, where things go from here in terms of, of, you know, the training program.

[00:53:37] I'm still not sure yet, but I am sure of this things will move forward. The whole thing reminds me of a kid I knew in college and he desperately wanted to get bigger and stronger. He's about six feet tall, a buck 60, not destined to be a big strong dude. He had no [00:54:00] coach, there was no internet. Everyone knew the magazines were bunk.

[00:54:03] Right. The one thing he was though was persistent J um, he, he would ask everyone for advice almost, you know, nobody bothered with them. They just kind of dismissed him, uh, what little money he did have he ordered books and courses, uh, to get big and strong. To learn how to do that. He would sometimes even do some very ill advised stuff and crazy stuff like train until he dropped or threw up or both.

[00:54:36] Um, he would occasionally force-feed until he threw up. And at one point he trained every day, multiple times per day, three times a day, one day though his persistence paid off somebody who knew what they were doing really knew what he's doing. Show them the way. And by the time he graduated, [00:55:00] he was 220 pounds.

[00:55:01] He had, he was benching over 300 and squatting and dead lifting over 500. That kid was me. And so sometimes I need to remind myself right of the kind of persistence that I am capable of and have displayed, displayed as a young man. Um, So I want you to remember this. If things don't go your way, right. In one thing, one lift, go on offense in others until such time as you're clicking on all cylinders.

[00:55:37] Again, it's called right. It's called persistence. It's related to something else I've talked about on here before resilience. And it's absolutely crucial. That you cultivated way Johnson has the same something to this effect. He says the only bad workout is a missed workout. That's it? Right? [00:56:00] Point being, even if you missed every target rep in every exercise, in your workout.

[00:56:06] You're still benefiting how you're still building an efficient central nervous system. You're making those connections. You're still increasing blood flow to the muscles. You're still working out stress. You're still building muscle maturity. You're getting all of the benefits that strength training gives you.

[00:56:25] You must live persistence. And when all else fails. I want you to remember this quote. This is from president, for president Calvin Coolidge from Massachusetts. Believe it or not. What he said was nothing in the world. Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Nothing. Talent will not, nothing is more common than men with unrealized talent.

[00:56:53] Education will not. The world is full. Of educated derelicts, [00:57:00] persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. Persistence has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. I thought that summarized things nicely. Um, here's the bottom line. It may take days. It may take months. It may take years keep going.

[00:57:27] It is a marathon, not a sprint. And I'll be back next week to talk about how I'm recovering from that little episode. That sounds

[00:57:37] Carl Lanore: [00:57:37] great. It's about,

[00:57:38] Coach Rob Regish: [00:57:38] it's about persistence band. It really is showing up,

[00:57:43] Carl Lanore: [00:57:43] showing up. All right, we're going to take a last commercial break. When we come back, I'm going to break the news on a pharmaceutical that I've been working on for some time with a pharmaceutical company.

[00:57:54] And, uh, we are releasing it in four to five weeks and it's going to really make a big difference [00:58:00] to people, men on HRT.

[00:58:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:58:03] It's exciting.

[00:58:04] Carl Lanore: [00:58:04] Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more superhuman radio.

[00:58:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:58:10] This is the superhuman channel.

[00:58:20] Carl Lanore: [00:58:20] okay. So some of you may have heard shows that I did one in particular

[00:58:28] Coach Rob Regish: [00:58:28] that I can think of was

[00:58:29] Carl Lanore: [00:58:29] the show that we talked about sex hormone, binding globulin, um, with dr. Scott Stevenson and how it's misunderstood. And I talked about on that show, that show was probably two years ago that I was working on a new testosterone preparation and.

[00:58:50] It is ready. It's actually just undergoing, um, shelf stability testing. You expect it to be

[00:58:58] Coach Rob Regish: [00:58:58] shelf stable without any problems.

[00:59:01] [00:59:00] Carl Lanore: [00:59:01] And once it passes the shelf stability testing, which we would expect it to fly right through, uh, it will become available and what this is and what this represents is, uh, taking.

[00:59:18] Male testosterone replacement therapy to a completely new place. We know that testosterone naturally pulses

[00:59:28] Coach Rob Regish: [00:59:28] at

[00:59:28] Carl Lanore: [00:59:28] night and throughout the day it diminishes. And when it's time for nighttime again, I'm just going to kill your mic. Cause I hear something going on in the background. Um, I. W naturally pulses who, so when you take testosterone, annotate, testosterone, cypionate, um, any of these long acting esters, especially in the Beto, the testosterone on deco, innate, you know, which lasts six months, your testosterone levels rise and [01:00:00] stay up there for days at a time when the natural testosterone levels go like this every day, every day, every day, If you look at the literature, you see that men get fewer side effects when they inject two times a week.

[01:00:20] Cause they have this twice a week pulse. And it's hard to argue with the importance of the pulse because it's, it's natural. It's how men work and. We also know that men who go on testosterone, creams and gels, they don't see the type of side effects. Let's say unwanted effects that guys who are on testosterone, Shippy NATO and antique for long periods of time, uh, to stick testicular shrinkage is less when you're on the creams, because.

[01:00:53] The creams deliver for eight to 12 hours and then they're gone. And so at night when you're sleeping, luteinizing, [01:01:00] hormone can still pulse a little bit. It definitely diminishes when you're on any kind of

[01:01:05] Coach Rob Regish: [01:01:05] exogenous testosterone,

[01:01:07] Carl Lanore: [01:01:07] but it still tries to pulse a little bit at night. And then you put your cream on first thing in the morning.

[01:01:12] People would say to me, well, Carl sounds like we have creams and gels. Why do we need something else? Well, anybody who's worked with creams and gels or been prescribed creams and gels knows a few things about them. Number one. Absorption varies from day to day, depending on your level of hydration, depending on whether or not you rotate your application sites.

[01:01:33] And so if you go back for your initial followup exam, after being put on testosterone cream and the will say, wow, your testosterone is great. You're in the 700 nanogram, uh, area. That's where we want it. Six months later, you come back for an exam and all of a sudden your testosterone down to 400, you use the same dose every day.

[01:01:53] What's going on. Well, creams are very unpredictable, very unpredictable. So that's one problem with creams. The [01:02:00] other problem with creams is you're not a candidate for a cream. If you have young children, or if you don't do your laundry by itself, because you get cross-contamination. I have a friend through the show who confided in me called me child protective services wants to take his daughter away because she had developed.

[01:02:21] Breast tissue started budding. She was getting visualized hair on her vagina. She was like 11 years old at 10 years old. And when they checked her blood levels are testosterone levels were through the roof. How could that be? Well, daddy hugs his daughter sometimes. Okay. So precision of dosing is pretty much a crap shoot with creams.

[01:02:43] On top of that transferability of the testosterone to your wife, to somebody else's is a real issue. So when I decided I needed, for me personally was a once daily [01:03:00] testosterone injection, nothing exists, no one even wants to talk about it. I found a pharmaceutical company that's based in Florida, but has offices in Tennessee and I've been working with, um, one of their greatest, greatest, um, chemists.

[01:03:19] Uh, the guy is amazing and he will be on the show soon. I don't want to give away his name. And I said, this is what I want to do. When we hit all sorts of obstacles, even we even had to have, we want to use a different oil, a different viscosity. We had to get that approved by the FDA, which they eventually did.

[01:03:39] Well. The product is going to be called nature rhythm. It's the once daily testosterone injection, you will use an insulin syringe, so you don't have to worry about there's no aspiration, no intramuscular, you know, just like you take your peptide. You'll take this testosterone once a day in the morning, and I predict it will completely change, uh, how [01:04:00] men feel and how they can stay on testosterone therapy long, long into their future.

[01:04:07] Uh, I believe it will change the landscape. Of male hormone replacement therapy. Now I know as soon as I come out with this, I'm going to have people out there say, Oh, this is BS and we have creams. All I'm saying to those of you out there, who on HRT now send me an email and on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

[01:04:28] And we are going to put together a small group of men. We're going to do a study with. And, uh, if you want to be involved in this, and then also if you want your doctor to be able to prescribe it for you, email me what's going on over there.

[01:04:48] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:48] Yeah, sorry. So

[01:04:53] Carl Lanore: [01:04:53] this is really exciting. I predict this is going to be my legacy. I'll be long gone, and I will have changed the face because now that I'm [01:05:00] doing this, other people are going to go, wow, why didn't we think of that? Let's do that because they're lazy. That testosterone industry is lazy. I mean, look who, who first talked about sub Q injections on this show in 2010.

[01:05:17] I had dr. John crystal come on my show. And I had admitted to him that for the past couple of years, I got tired of sticking needles in my quads and my shoulders and my, my glutes. And I started doing sub Q and everything was working great. And he told me it was a bad idea, sub Q's a bad idea. Then he goes on to write a book 10 years later about how sub Q is the way to go.

[01:05:36] So I have been thinking about testosterone day and night for, for decades now. How can we make it better for men? How can it work better for men? How can we make it more like the natural pulse look, we know, uh, CJC 1295 with Dak and things like MK six 77. Horrible choices for raising growth hormone. For one [01:06:00] reason, it's not that they don't work.

[01:06:02] They work too long. Your body wants to see a pulse, every one and a half to three hours of growth hormone. When you do this with it and leave it up there, it stops working. The pituitary gets tired, nothing works, right? You don't feel right anxiety, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So every hormone in our body has a rhythm and ignoring it is just being lazy.

[01:06:24] That's all it is.

[01:06:25] Coach Rob Regish: [01:06:25] If I tell you what, if it solves the increase in red blood cells, Imam, because you know, having to go for blood work and give blood every two or three months is a real pain. And from what I've heard on your past shows, Um, part of the reason is the constant elevation with the sippy and Nate are a Nancy Esther,

[01:06:51] Carl Lanore: [01:06:51] and they affect they affect estrodiol or they F so, so the faster, the Ester, the less estrogen you produce, [01:07:00] the slower, the yester, the more estrogen you produce soap.

[01:07:04] There are guys on 200 milligrams of testosterone a week and they're extra dials through the roof and they give them an AI. Well, if they stopped that, if it was so fast, it was gone in a day and this is not appropriate. Just so you know, this is not appropriate. There's nothing like this out there. There has never been anything like this out there.

[01:07:24] And it's because no one cares that testosterone therapy has unwanted effects. That's like, well, that's all we have. Just get used to it. Take it, take an AI, take, take a DHT inhibitor. Uh, go give blood and nevermind the fact that using creams and gels isn't precision. It's not precise if I want you to. If I say, well, men produce on average 11 milligrams of testosterone a week.

[01:07:54] How about being able to put 11 milligrams? I mean, a day. How about being able to put 11 milligrams [01:08:00] in your body this morning and not guessing. Not waiting to come out of the shower and not waiting for it to dry before putting your shirt on and not worrying about now, you're going to play racquetball and you're going to sweat it all off.

[01:08:11] No people would just lazy. The TRT industry has been lazy. They tell guys, this is all there is not anymore.

[01:08:19] Coach Rob Regish: [01:08:19] That's that's fantastic news. So, okay. So I sent you an email or my ask my

[01:08:24] Carl Lanore: [01:08:24] doctor, right? Yes. Right now we're asking people to send me an email because it's going to be released in about four weeks and we're going to recheck be reaching out the doctors we'll reach out to your doctor and tell them that they can prescribe it for you.

[01:08:36] Coach Rob Regish: [01:08:36] Yes. It's your muscular? No. So cute. So cute.

[01:08:41] Carl Lanore: [01:08:41] It's like you take your peptides under your skin. And, and, and the, the, the oil vehicle that it's in is light enough where you can put a 29 gauge insulin syringe in there, pull it to about 10 units, which will probably be the standard dose for some people a little bit more, pop it on the skin, push it [01:09:00] in and go about your business.

[01:09:01] You're done that day.

[01:09:03] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:03] That sounds like a great solution. Well, how come nobody's thought of that before?

[01:09:08] Carl Lanore: [01:09:08] Because people are lazy, they're lazy, they're lazy. They rather just prescribe you something that they have already then have to go out and make something. No, you have no idea. I talked to three different companies over the past, probably five years.

[01:09:21] I said, I have this idea, eh, eh, nah. And it wasn't until I talked to Justin Kirkland. Justin Kirkland is the guy who helped me formulate it. Cause he's a, he's a, he's a farm pharmacy biochemist. He, I mean the guy's brilliant. He's the guy who created, um, the D H the H M that doctor seed cells, the chill pill he created and patented that, that he discovered it.

[01:09:55] So the guy is brilliant. And so I turned to him and, and he actually [01:10:00] had connections at a particular pharmaceutical company and we brought it to them and they were like, yeah, we're on board with this. This is brilliant.

[01:10:06] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:06] You know what? Okay, I'm in. I hope this is, I hope this is for you. What quest bars were when they started with quest.

[01:10:17] You know,

[01:10:17] Carl Lanore: [01:10:17] it's funny that you say that because you know who Nate, you know, who came up with the name, nature, rhythm.

[01:10:22] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:22] No

[01:10:23] Carl Lanore: [01:10:23] Ron Penna

[01:10:25] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:25] from,

[01:10:26] Carl Lanore: [01:10:26] I said to, I said to Ron, Ron is known, I've been working on this all along. And so I said, you know, I said to him, well, we're, we're ready. We're ready to release us in, uh, six or seven weeks.

[01:10:37] This was when I talked to him about it. And I said, I got to come up with a name. And I said, here's the things that it does. And he texted me back and said, nature, rhythm comes to mind. I thought, I love that. That's exactly what it is. Nature rhythm once daily testosterone injection.

[01:10:55] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:55] Very cool. Very cool.

[01:10:57] Carl Lanore: [01:10:57] So when you see the commercials for that during the super [01:11:00] bowl, or a couple years later, Hey, that call did that.

[01:11:07] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:07] Hey, it's about time, right?

[01:11:08] Carl Lanore: [01:11:08] I'm excited

[01:11:09] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:09] about you can, you can retire and that's that?

[01:11:13] Carl Lanore: [01:11:13] I don't know about retiring. I would still do the show. I would never stop doing the show. I love doing the show. Alright, these people in my family now it'd be like saying, Oh, you don't want to see a family anymore. I couldn't

[01:11:22] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:22] do it,

[01:11:23] Carl Lanore: [01:11:23] but I can actually make a legitimate contribution to men's health.

[01:11:27] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:27] Yeah. That's wonderful. Really,

[01:11:29] Carl Lanore: [01:11:29] really

[01:11:29] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:29] wonderful.

[01:11:30] Carl Lanore: [01:11:30] So there you go. That's the secret

[01:11:33] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:33] stay. Cool,

[01:11:34] Carl Lanore: [01:11:34] Rob. Thanks for sitting through with me on that and thanks for everybody who participated in today's show and ask the questions and we will see you tomorrow. Don't forget.  dot com is the place to go. If you want to be stronger tomorrow.

[01:11:47] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:47] Thank you. Alright.

[01:11:48] Carl Lanore: [01:11:48] Talk to everybody tomorrow. [01:12:00]



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