[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. Uh, today's show is, uh, it's kinda different and I'll tell you why it's different. Yeah. My guest today is dr. Judy, Mike Kovitz. And many of you remember back in may where she was pretty much all over the internet because of 'em. A couple of reasons, the documentary called a plan demic, but more importantly, a book called the plague of corruption.

[00:00:26] And those two things were released right on the doorstep of this whole COVID-19 thing, the entire internet. And I say that the entire internet, every component of it, whether it's mainstream media, bloggers, vloggers, people with opinions, um, Jumped on dr. Judy, they jumped on her and it was like a concerted effort to just pound her down, erase her message, discredit her message.

[00:01:02] [00:01:00] And if that didn't shock you, then you're not paying attention because when the entire internet and all the mainstream media, after in unison, something is up, don't be stupid. Something's up mean, these people can't get together on anything. They can't agree on anything, but all of a sudden, this is what they agree on.

[00:01:28] And they just pushed her down, deleted her work, tried to silence a message, but they weren't successful because there's a growing population of critical thinkers. Not everybody in this country is just following and obeying. Uh, the chance, let's say a B before we get onto our interview and it's going to be a good woman.

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[00:02:25] Bring my guest on. We couldn't. We couldn't see each other last time. Uh, dr. Judy, Mike of it's. How you doing dr. Judy?

[00:02:33] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:02:33] I'm getting well, Carl, thank you.

[00:02:34] Carl Lanore: [00:02:34] Yeah. Thanks for being here. So. Um, for people who don't know who you are, which I'm sure there's somebody out there who doesn't know who you are by now, just give you a background of where you started.

[00:02:48] Uh, back in the day, the lab work, that the project you worked on, the level of credibility you had developed your entire career until you something went wrong. So let let's start there.

[00:03:00] [00:03:00] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:03:00] Sure. Um, well, I first entered science on June 10th, 1980. Uh, when I took a job fresh out of the university of Virginia, I had a degree in chemistry with a specialization in biology.

[00:03:13] I was a protein chemist, so I started it. The national cancer Institute purifying the, the first immune therapy. The first immune therapy for cancer and infectious disease, um, which was put into humans, that's type one interferon, in fact, type one, interferon, it can be considered a vaccine or an adjutant or a prevention strategy for, for even, you know, Corona viruses, many RNA viruses and subjects of today.

[00:03:40] So that was 40 years ago. Last week was my first job. I stayed at the cancer center. To do for 21 years, I'm rising to the level of the chief, the director of the lab of antiviral drug mechanisms. So my job there was to develop diagnostic and therapeutic strategies. The focus [00:04:00] of the lab at that time was.

[00:04:01] AIDS associated cancers. So how the HIV virus in some people in susceptible people can end up causing cancer and we develop successful therapeutics. The cancer at the time you might remember was Kaposi sarcoma. So I went on to industry, to pharmaceutical companies where I used all I'd learned in the, in the 20 years.

[00:04:24] Um, I, I got my PhD on November. Uh, 14, 1991. And that changed the paradigm for HIV therapy. And it was that reason that less than 10 years later, that work was so paradigm shifting that I was given that director job at a, at a very young age, um, and, uh, in 1999. So I went to industry. To develop these same ideas and theories, which previously hadn't been successful in immune therapies for diagnostic and treatment strategies for virus associated cancers.

[00:04:58] Um, you know, did that for [00:05:00] decades started the first neural immune disease Institute in 2006 at the university, uh, a private Institute at the university of Nevada, uh, obtained in less than five years because we use the same systems biology. The approach that I used at the national cancer that we used as teams in the national cancer Institute, we obtained more than $8 million funding.

[00:05:25] And literally in the first few years of, from. Of that lab. And we made major discoveries, um, discovered an entire new family of cancer and neuro immune disease causing retroviruses. And that basically was the beginning of the end of, for my career because. We inconvenient truth that we, that we wrote in our 2014 book play.

[00:05:51] This is the 17 copy of the paperback. The original book came out in 2014 was the story of how the government, [00:06:00] how science, how the media, the scientific media shut down that research when it was revealed that the most likely way mouse. Viruses got into humans was a heavily contaminated blood supply and it had been contaminated with these viruses since 1991.

[00:06:19] At least the data showed after are really landmark 2009. October a science paper showed that. So for the next two years, from 2009 to 2011 investigators from around the world, my former colleagues in HIV AIDS just really jumped on looking at this virus and realized it was associated with. With, um, dozens of diseases that previously had no known cause, but the, the big kicker was, uh, those, those diseases now, um, were, um, at least 50 million Americans were carriers of this virus that had most likely gotten into the [00:07:00] human viral and via contaminated vaccine, specifically polio, MMR.

[00:07:05] Influenza the live viral vaccines because you couldn't filter out these contaminating they're called adventitious agents. So when the work in 2011 Bay came clear, it was a nightmare worldwide as these. That seems had been injected and mandated to be injected in the most susceptible populations. And, and it was clear it was driving this explosion of chronic disease.

[00:07:32] So the idea was to kill at that point, the decision in the highest levels of science and the government was right. The destroy the messenger. Um, I was the senior author on the paper, so I was responsible for all of it. And, um, stood by that responsibility, refuse to cover up the data, throw it away. And that's the saga we tell.

[00:07:53] And playing in play.

[00:07:55] Carl Lanore: [00:07:55] So, you know, it's commonplace for in scientific communities, [00:08:00] it's commonplace for their B to, for their B to B dissenting opinions on a given thing. Anything. I mean, we can, we all know that there's a, you can find science to support whatever your opinion is about something out there, but.

[00:08:14] Scientists don't usually go out and try to destroy each other. They agree to disagree and they continue their work and they try to duplicate it and refine it because science is evolving, constantly changing things. We believe today you're going to be disproved 10 years from now, 15 years from now, but.

[00:08:34] What you discovered, put a great deal of liability on agencies and groups, and maybe even governments for spreading this virus they didn't want to be associated with. So they had to, I mean, because whistleblowers are rewarded, I thought, huh,

[00:08:51] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:08:51] but

[00:08:51] Carl Lanore: [00:08:51] not in your case.

[00:08:52] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:08:52] Not, not in this case because yes, this was a family of Iris.

[00:08:56] It wasn't just one that we, with the, a one [00:09:00] we identified the mouse related retrovirus, but we know there are cow pig jog monkey, um, bird. Viruses of similar families of retroviruses and RNA viruses, Corona viruses. And that was the big, Oh my God. In chapter eight of our first book, it said, do you mean all those sequences we saw in the eighties were real, and that was a July 28th or July 22nd, 2009 invitation only meeting.

[00:09:31] So the highest levels of the United States. States government, the NIH, the HHS got together privately in Bethesda at the NIH and, and had the meeting and that's detailed and not one word of our book has ever been challenged. It is heavily referenced. Um, this Mount of the book is referencing. So this is all just references of every chapter detailed science and yes, I'm scientists.

[00:09:59] Um, in [00:10:00] fact training for a PhD. The first thing my mentor did was handed me two papers that came. Came to the exact opposite conclusion on a subject. So the question is who's right. What was the study design? Is, is anybody wrong? So how do you take about scientific paper and see two studies that apparently did exactly the same thing and came to exactly opposite.

[00:10:26] So the glutens, that's the way you train a PhD, that's the way you train to look and understand how a study design is flawed or not flawed. And, and again, that's an, and, and what is the correct answer? And oftentimes both people are right in their conclusions, in their interpretation of the data because they used a different method.

[00:10:49] And so they weren't wrong. But in my case, yes, the whole thing shut down. Um, and, and there were a dozen authors on our paper and, um, it was forced [00:11:00] retracted in 2011 and four of the author or in 2000. Yeah, late 2011 or 2012, while I was held in jail in Ventura County without a warrant, our paper went from 2009 was forced retracted.

[00:11:14] As the editor said, no, no, we no longer have any confidence. In, in her, in that work. So we're just gonna, so they literally staged and arrest and, and, and fatten with no warrant, no anything. And that's described in both books. Well, Gail, while they tried to get me, all I had to do was sign a piece of paper and say the data were wrong and it would have all disappeared

[00:11:37] Carl Lanore: [00:11:37] that shows right there, that what they wanted was for you to retract the data.

[00:11:41] So what, what they do instead to you is they love to work, use the word discredited. I want to remind people that Copernicus was discredited when he came up with the theory that the Earth's orbit around the sun and not the opposite way. And he was discredited by many of his peers who were [00:12:00] also a scientist then.

[00:12:02] But he was right. So this word discredited, it doesn't carry a lot of weight because who's discrediting you. Like you said, in that book, you have all the sources. No one has ever challenged the book. I want it. I want, wanna, I want to talk about something else that they love to do to you. We started the word discredited.

[00:12:19] I saw people read that. Oh, she's discredited. Well, that just means that her opinion was different than the people who were reigning over her. That's all it means. Again, Copernicus was discredited, but. They love to call you an anti-vaxxer, but you're really not an anti-vaxxer. Are you.

[00:12:37] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:12:37] No, not at all. And that's why I explained what my first job was for 40 years.

[00:12:41] I've developed immune therapy and worked on the single principle that we could as scientists, um, develop prevention and treatment strategies, um, from biologicals, from your body, understanding immunology and immune risks. Bonds the [00:13:00] virus. We could educate the immune system to prevent and treat infectious and in chronic disease.

[00:13:07] And that's the definition of a vaccine. So my whole life's work and, and, and we've been very successful. Look at HIV AIDS. What do we have? On the TV. Now we have, and I say the Royal we scientists, we have preexposure prophylaxis. That means prevent if you're HIV infected from ever getting AIDS. Um, and, and we've done that.

[00:13:37] That's immune therapy, that's type one interferon that's highly active antiretroviral therapy and some of the drug therapies, plant therapies and avenues. Cannabis, the things that right now, the gov and it wouldn't work against just HIV. It would work with these therapies would work a gun CX MRBs they'd work against

[00:14:01] [00:14:00] Ebola and

[00:14:03] Carl Lanore: [00:14:03] SARS. Correct.

[00:14:07] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:14:07] And yet we're not using these therapies while we develop a vaccine, which, and against all of those things, when we've had these therapies for 40 years and what does our FDA and our government and our world health organization do prevent people from getting them and say, Oh no, that's anecdotal will 40 years.

[00:14:27] And thousands of publications, um, is not anecdotal. Storytelling. And, um, as you mentioned, um, I, I met might well be called discredited, but nobody has disproven me. Not one, not one.

[00:14:43] Carl Lanore: [00:14:43] I think that's exactly right. Discredited just means that your peers don't want to be associated with you. That's all that means.

[00:14:49] But there's a lot of crooked people out there who don't want to be associated with honest people because it sheds, shines a light on what they're up to. So I want to put this to rest. I'm going to ask you to do [00:15:00] something very, very childish to say the words. I'm not an anti-vaxxer,

[00:15:04] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:15:04] I'm not an anti,

[00:15:06] Carl Lanore: [00:15:06] so I don't want the media to get that one and twist it because that's what they do.

[00:15:09] Because when you look on your Wikipedia page, the two things they say is you are you're discredited and you're an anti-vaxxer and then people are supposed to go, Oh, I can't take anything she says, seriously, you're not an anti-vaxxer you in fact, spent your whole career working in immunotherapies and, and this silly that they do that to you.

[00:15:27] Uh, so I want, I want them to get that out of the way. So you came on my show in may and you went on a lot of shows in may, and you had both the book and a documentary released in may and at the time. Everybody in the mainstream media was saying horrible things. Your videos were being taken down off of YouTube.

[00:15:45] Um, you know, people were trying to suppress your message, but your message did get out there to a lot of people. And you said that this virus is being used. To create chaos and, and worry [00:16:00] amongst the population. No one believed you then, because the model said a million, dad's 2 million deaths, but now, you know, 20, 20 hindsight, we're sitting here looking back on, wow, we really got that wrong.

[00:16:11] And I'm telling people, dr. Judy, didn't get it wrong. These are all the things she said on my show when everybody made fun of her and called her crazy.

[00:16:20] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:16:20] Yeah. So

[00:16:23] Carl Lanore: [00:16:23] talk, talk about how you talk about COVID-19, where you see it now, because don't forget, they're about to revive it because the riots are over. So it's about to get a revival.

[00:16:32] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:16:32] Right, right. It's um, and so, uh, again, that's, what's so important about shows like yours, Carl, and in coming back and saying no, as we get more and more censored, I did a talk, um, last week on Corsi nation.com about the political life. Political aspects of all of this. I'm with dr. Jerry coursing and it, it, we talked for two hours and I think it stayed up for six hours and, and went down.

[00:16:59] And, [00:17:00] um, fortunately, um, we now have lawyer, uh, Larry claim and, um, um, from, you know, judicial watch and, and, uh, under that back in the eighties, And so he's basically, um, beginning to Sue people for the censorship, for the, for the rights, you know, nothing can compare. I really never cared. I mean, I don't care what you call me.

[00:17:21] Um, you know, um, it, it doesn't matter. It's the data, what I'm worried about right now, what I'm concerned about right now is it seems like everything is as, as you just mentioned. Okay, now the riots are gone. Let's. Just bring back COVID 20. So, you know, it's, it's like with all the data showing the masks are harmful with all the data saying, um, it prevents nothing as far as the spread of Corona viruses or influenza viruses, what it actually does, what they actually do is immune suppressed.

[00:17:52] So the very immune suppression you need, you need oxidative, um, antioxidants and by depriving yourself of [00:18:00] oxygen in any way. Especially the most vulnerable, those like me with them. I've deviated septum employer. See, I have lung disease. If I wore a mask for 10 minutes, that my oxygen level would drop to the point where I could pass out.

[00:18:14] And, um, and, and can you imagine the car accidents it's worse than drunk driving? And I see, and I, every time I pass a, an, an older cup or with a full mask on with all the windows rolled up in their car, I just say a prayer. They don't hurt somebody.

[00:18:29] Carl Lanore: [00:18:29] I'm baffled when people are in their car, by themselves with a mask on, I guess, I don't know.

[00:18:35] I don't, I guess I put a lot of value in critical thinking, and I think that most people are critical thinkers, and I don't understand why somebody would be in their car by themselves with a mask on

[00:18:44] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:18:44] right. Or on the beach with nobody around for a mile, with a mask on I'm out. What are you going to catch in the air?

[00:18:51] So the critical thinking is what appears to be lost. It's not how viruses spread even with HIV, which is what I try to wake people up with [00:19:00] HIV. I never wore a mask. Because what I, what you don't want to do is immune suppress yourself. So the spread of these viruses is nosocomial, you know, and what that usually means through the hospitals, where you've got concentrated lab workers and, and sick people.

[00:19:17] And they're sick. So you don't wear the mask. Um, you wear the mask to prevent them from getting sicker and it spread a lot of viruses not to keep you well, well, healthy people walking around the street, aren't a threat to somebody. So when somebody looks at me and says, you know, why don't you have your mask on?

[00:19:35] You're putting me at risk. No, look at me. I'm I'm healthy. I'm walking around the streets. I'm not coughing, um, because I don't have a mask on, in my floor, so they won't act up. Um, my husband's COBD won't act up and there's no possible way. A healthy people can breathe a Corona virus on you. They spread through large water droplets through and they, and dry on a piece of surface.

[00:19:57] They don't, you know, they do nothing. I mean, [00:20:00] nothing. This is in all the data. There's that out, all the data, all the publications, all, everything you wear a mask and people say this to me, they say, well, dr. Judy, they're wearing masks in China and Japan and have for years. Well, they have horrific pollution.

[00:20:16] They have hope. And see if you do anything to damage or anything. Right. More susceptible to infection. And so you almost stop that, but you don't want to wear a mess. So I used, I mean, I'm like you, I'm optimistic that critical thinkers can say, wait a minute, never in the history of humans, did you walk around and wear a mask?

[00:20:40] Much less something like what's around your throat, which protects you from nothing and only hurts you. Yeah. This is just like my, my husband said, well, you know, the fear, the anxiety, um, I guess I get to wear a mask and Rob a bank cause nobody knows what to love. It [00:21:00] generates hate. So I, I walked in a restaurant that was a patio restaurant in San Diego.

[00:21:06] Um, two days ago. And, um, and there were people out in the patio and the tables were spaced apart. There was a nice breeze blowing off the ocean and there was no way anybody was going to infect anyone else. I went with my friend, a cancer patient, literally actively on therapy. You do not want to immune suppressive cancer patient.

[00:21:26] So neither of us had mashed on and they said, To cross the threshold between the sidewalk. I was standing to the table that was this far away, we had to put a mask on. So I took a mask that was, I should have picked it up and put it on the table. That's a Mardi Gras mask that went around my. And I reached into my briefcase and I said, Oh yeah, I'm so sorry.

[00:21:50] I forgot. And I, and I said, we have, we have lung diseases. We, you know, we can't, we have we're we're, we're the most compromised in your world. You know, [00:22:00] the, the, I got the infections of the retroviruses. The lab workers get sick. That's what our book show you both of our books. Oh my God. The lab workers were developing antibodies.

[00:22:11] They'd been exposed. They were, they were infected that's 25 to 6% of us right now is infected, still infected with those viruses that they inject it. And so it's the injection I'm afraid of and the next rounds of flu vaccines, where they propaganda going out with them, but at any rate. So I put that mask on and I stepped over the threshold.

[00:22:35] And two people at a table about 15 feet away said, no, no, no. And I said, it's a mask. And the waitress laughed and said, yeah, you can go. It's a mask. This has nothing to do. This is propaganda. Masculine thing is science. You can't get mad at me because there's no way I can make you sick, but you're destroying.

[00:22:57] In fact, the reason I was down there is because my work is [00:23:00] still primarily. Cancer therapy. And are we closed UCLA cancer center? We've closed the cancer centers, these cancer patients.

[00:23:10] Carl Lanore: [00:23:10] Oh, I talked about this on the show. Uh, I have a friend who has an a, is an OB GYN. And he told me that, um, in this period of time, that, that, that his clinic was closed down.

[00:23:23] I forget how many, uh, ma uh, mammograms they would have done. And he said of all the mammograms we would have done, he said 5% would have had solid masses. And 40% of those would have been stage three or, or better worse. He said, so there are a lot of women who are going to come back in and they're going, it's going to be too late to do anything for them.

[00:23:44] They're going to have full blown breast cancer, and they're going to need radical approaches because we didn't let them come and see their doctors during this. I hate to use this word because people go to this charade. I'm not saying the virus. Wasn't real. I'm not saying the virus [00:24:00] wasn't harmful to certain stratifications of our population like you and other people.

[00:24:07] But what I am saying is our reaction was. Was a complete fumble of how we handled it because there are more people are going to die as a result of unemployment alcoholism, drug abuse, not getting their cancer therapy on time. Then we'll have died from this virus. So show you predicted you predicted on my last show.

[00:24:28] And as your book and your documentary identifies that this was being leveraged, it was corruption behind this. It clearly you have, you now seen some of that. Can you look at it and go see what happened here? See what happens here.

[00:24:43] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:24:43] It's exactly, as we predicted, it's a plague of corruption. And it feels like, damn the torpedoes full speed ahead.

[00:24:49] So as the data bore out worldwide saying, yeah, lockdowns don't work, natural immunity, healthy people are not carriers. They're not asymptomatic [00:25:00] areas of, of coronavirus, but they are asymptomatic carriers of retroviruses and these work contagious. Meaning I can cop cancer on you. So those people who weren't getting their mammograms, they weren't getting their colonoscopies.

[00:25:17] Those cancers were the leukemia, the lymphoma, the multiple myeloma, the breast cancer, the prostate cancer, the, the blacks being more susceptible to those because of immune dysfunction that. Enables them not to break down RNA viruses, what our research has shown for, um, now more than a decade of how these viruses spread.

[00:25:40] And so if these people get. Inoculations of any kind. And they will drive that infection through their body inoculations of any kind and they will die and it will be called COVID-19. So exactly the clinical presentation of microvasculature injuries, you're seeing clotting [00:26:00] disorders. No, no, that's not a Corona virus.

[00:26:03] Those are retroviruses. So I stated in the very beginning, our books say it very clearly, unplug of corruption said, you know, it basically said they're going to do something there they're insisting, no burials, no people around. No, you know, you can see that the antibodies, the natural herd immunity has been developed it natural heard of unity has been developed.

[00:26:26] We don't need a vaccine.

[00:26:28] Carl Lanore: [00:26:28] But look at that. Look at the spec. I tell people, look at the Spanish flu. They never came up with a vaccine for it. It had a second wave and they even say a third wave, but once 60% of the population was exposed to it, we became immune to it. And that, and that's what herd immunity is.

[00:26:43] And quite frankly, herd immunity can not be conveyed by vaccines because if it could then a mother would get a vaccine and pass that herd immunity on to its offspring. But that doesn't happen when vaccines are being used. Correct.

[00:26:58] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:26:58] And that's why in the movie planned [00:27:00] dammit guy said there's never been, um, a viral or bacterial vaccine of any kind that is developed a memory response.

[00:27:10] I, you know, so, and we can see it in the measles outbreaks because now we've had, you know, three generations of, of people inoculated with the MMR and the measles vaccine since 1963 and they don't work. It was that natural herd immunity. It was that clean sanitation. It's that clean food. And we're being prevented from going, getting those things.

[00:27:31] We can't, we can only get processed. Processed food. We get GMOs, which are, which are horribly damaging to our glutathione Roundup with glyphosate. Glycine is the part of glutathione that we make naturally. So we don't

[00:27:46] Carl Lanore: [00:27:46] Gliffy I I've done shows on this. Glyphosate is a synthetic form of glycine that the body cannot get rid of.

[00:27:54] In fact, there is now, um, forms [00:28:00] of fibrosis that are caused. Bye. Um, Oh God, I can't believe I'm forgetting this. But anyway, the accumulation, the bioaccumulation of, of glyphosate in the body is leading to what what's the plaque that beta. So there's actually a, there's an actually beta amyloid fibrosis that's occurring in kidneys and heart because, because glyphosate.

[00:28:23] Is being incorporated into tissue the way glycine would, but the body can't get rid of it. So it stays around and there's a type of heart failure. They're now associating with this type of a glyphosate accumulation. So it's, you know, it's, it's funny you bring this up cause I'm connecting dots from shows that I've done years ago, but we have to take a break.

[00:28:42] We have to take a break. We also have questions that I'm going to get to. Uh, and so the website is plague the book.com that you can go the. Um, the documentary was planned. DEMEC everybody loved it. You know what? The funny thing I find about pandemic, when you go and look, it's got like a [00:29:00] 4.9 positive rating on various websites where you can watch it.

[00:29:04] And everybody says the same thing. Why, why is the internet coming out against this woman's opinion? We don't see this with, I mean, I mean, look, um, People like to call people conspiracy theorist. We've talked about how the CIA came up with the term conspiracy theorist. When some of the people were, were, were escaping from the LSD testing.

[00:29:24] Uh, the irony is that for the past three years, We've had a conspiracy theory running through the mainstream media, but they never called it a conspiracy theory. They said our current president was conspiring with the Russians, but no one ever called them conspiracy theorists. They said that was real.

[00:29:41] It's just funny how they choose selectively to throw these words to discredit people. It's really disgusting. And the only way around it. Is to pay attention, use your brain, stay tuned. We'll be right back. You are listening to the superhuman channel where ripped and we're ready.

[00:30:01] [00:30:00] Welcome back. We're talking with dr. Judy Markovitz you know, dr. Judy puts I, I'm not, I'm not trying to. You know, sound like a mush, but dr. Judy puts her life on the line. This is the truth. You know, the internet, everybody came out against you. You can't help, but wonder what is she talking about? Why are they so worried about what she's talking about?

[00:30:25] I mean, every day people give misinformation on the internet. You don't see this concerted effort to squash her. There are, there are powers. Way way above that don't want her message to be taken seriously. So just think about that when she talks and realize that she is risking everything. I mean, really, I mean, she is risking everything to carry this message.

[00:30:53] So let's get some, some comments up here and some questions. So, Ooh, Tom, who listens to the show and watches the show [00:31:00] from India said finally, Uh, great to see dr. Judy on SHR, uh, Andrea's Penna, thanks for what you do. And, uh, I think he has a couple people below that also agreed with that. Um, so I found this interesting because I, you know, when I was getting ready for, to the show this morning, I was looking for some stuff for you.

[00:31:19] And all that comes up is the negative stuff on all these different media outlets. I Googled planned DEMEC I saw a bunch of videos debunking and making fun of the documentary, but can't find the actual documentary. Can you post a link now? I know I will post the link, John later. On Facebook and I'm sure they'll take it down quickly, but maybe we could pass it around

[00:31:42] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:31:42] text you that link.

[00:31:43] Um, and, and what's interesting, Carl, from what you said, I didn't risk everything. I lost everything into the 11 and 12. I lost it. That was the difficult time that was when, um, and that's what our book, New York times. Best seller number two. So the [00:32:00] word's getting out there.

[00:32:02] Carl Lanore: [00:32:02] There are more and more people that are starting to unplug from the mainstream media and that, and there's hope for people now.

[00:32:10] Um, we go, Varga says during dr. VITs last visit, she said people remain contagious after receiving a vaccine for certain length of time. Sorry, I don't remember the time she said, could she expound on that? I searched the internet and found conflicting information. I want to speak to that first before you do.

[00:32:27] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:32:27] Gotcha. Alright.

[00:32:28] Carl Lanore: [00:32:28] Okay. So I donate blood once every couple months, cause I'm on testosterone therapy and my red blood cells get high. And plus I'm an advocate for keeping low iron levels as I, as I age. And one of the questions that they ask you is have you received the whooping cough vaccine or been in contact with someone who has received the whooping cough vaccine within the past six weeks?

[00:32:52] And so one time I asked the girl. Why that is. And she said, well, we're not supposed to talk [00:33:00] about it, but the whooping cough vaccine is an attenuated virus. So technically they're putting the actual virus in you. So you develop immunity to it, which makes you contagious for up to six weeks. Now they're making people get the whooping cough vaccine to see their newborn grandchildren in the hospital.

[00:33:20] They're actually contagious at that moment.

[00:33:22] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:33:22] Correct. And, and more importantly, if they're wearing a mask they're immune suppressing, their CD four T cells, their memory immune responses and their type one interferon responses. And they're actually producing like a little virus factory to wake up other viruses that their immune system has kept quiet.

[00:33:43] You don't. That's why I said a healthy person. Doesn't. Red disease. So the people getting now, the, now the government's out there saying, go get a flu shot while the influenza vaccine, um, is, has at least three live attenuated [00:34:00] viruses and a handful of chicken. Egg viruses, proteins, and you're injecting them.

[00:34:06] So you don't need to infect them. They cause up a respiratory distress. Then you're immune suppress wearing the mask and you can have a inflammatory cardiovascular event, a heart attack. If you're one of the elderly and anyone else who is susceptible, you're going to be shedding you'll. You could die from the flu shot.

[00:34:27] If you wear a mask. I want everyone to know or Prevnar, or DeGette no shots if you're going to wear a mask because you're, you're shedding that right through that match and your getting more immune suppressed. So that means your virus factory and you're shedding more and you'll make it for longer. You know, when they normally give you one you're breathing air, you have, you're not created oxidative stress from everything that's going on or suppressing those CD four T cell responses, that memory of noon response.

[00:34:57] And so you have lots of irises [00:35:00] you're shedding through that mask, including three strains of influenza. Um, and, and they will be infectious and transmissible. And because the viruses, the flu vaccines are grown. The one fluke of acts that was given in Italy, I believe it's called fluke Kovacs had H one N one as a fourth strain.

[00:35:19] And they grew the, the virus factory was dog, kidney cells, dogs have lots of Corona viruses. And the data was very clear from a large study in 2017 by Wolf, um, which had that. Corona viruses in particular flu vaccines drive 36% increase chance of getting infection, sustaining, and infection, and to a Corona virus.

[00:35:44] If you get the influenza vaccine, and this is how you know, it's a plague of corruption because what's been the wave of media propaganda. You know, uh, the wave of media propaganda is run out and get your flu shot in the summer. [00:36:00] And this is Robert Redfield again, and he's committed these crimes all the way back to the eighties where he and Deborah Berks published data that said.

[00:36:09] A, uh, an AIDS vaccine worked against HIV and the Miller, and they infected the military, um, with HIV and they, and they cause disease in the military and covered it up for three decades. And this is what our books, plague and Blake of corruption show. And this is why people are waking up. They look like prophecy.

[00:36:30] It's like, how did all that? Well, I lived it. I lived it for the last. So from the time I associated and use the word chronic fatigue syndrome. So, you know, Oh, chronic fatigue syndrome, the explosion, chronic Lyme disease. There's more than just viruses in that needle. There's Borrelia, Babesia, mycoplasma, mold, yeast, aluminum, mercury.

[00:36:55] Polysorbate 80 people don't know what's in that meat. And then [00:37:00] when they combine they immune suppressed, they compromise even more. And yes, the live attenuated vaccines, like influenza shed, these viruses and you become a, literally a walking, um, virus factory, um, for your, your, um, colleagues and friends and family.

[00:37:18] So, um, Extremely important. It's still at least a month. So if you're shedding for that month and you get that flu vaccine in, in August or in the summer, what's going to happen in November, October. Oh. COVID is going to come back because it never was SARS Cove to, in the majority of cases. 99.9, 7% of people who were called Cobin.

[00:37:44] Those were the only people who died. And those were almost certainly injuries I've done in vaccine court as an expert witness, a whole chapter of plague of corruption, about how, um, the elderly die of the flu vaccine from [00:38:00] cardiac arrest. As you said earlier, your, so your cardiac, because of the lack of, because of the toxicity from glyphosate, we no longer have the major intracellular antioxidant glue to thiol.

[00:38:13] Cause the third amino acid is, is, is glycine. So you're eating processed food, which tons of data showing the contamination of glyphosate. And this is why I also say they need to close the FDA because they're not doing their job.

[00:38:27] Carl Lanore: [00:38:27] They've never done their job. They've never done.

[00:38:30] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:38:30] Oxic and they prevent the healthy healing, immune therapies, the healthy adjuncts, the type one interferon, the sermon, the, the, um, the hydroxy chloride.

[00:38:40] When the, the, the drugs that we've made. We've made a lot of drugs. They're not all natural products. They're not all immune therapies, but we have the pro pre-exposure prophylactic now, and all we're doing every single thing they're telling you to do. If you want to survive and you don't want to see COVID [00:39:00] 20, 21, 22, 23, don't get a shot ever until they show you their safe until they do the data.

[00:39:07] And if you stop, if you do the opposite of what they told you, you will live and you will live well.

[00:39:13] Carl Lanore: [00:39:13] Well, and the truth is having a robust immune system that makes you resistant to you may get these viruses, but you don't die from them. You get sick and you get better. You know, what's really funny you, cause you've said.

[00:39:24] Talked about glutathione Chevron several times. So just last week I did a show with a good physician, uh, and it was about two peer reviewed studies on glutathione. And N-acetylcysteine per being protective for the SARS. COVID pneumonia affects that damage, the lungs that make the lungs damage that even when you get better from the virus you're impaired for the rest of your life, because the lung damage do you know.

[00:39:52] That now these were about two peer reviewed studies. This wasn't farmers talking about colloidal silver. This is about two peer reviewed [00:40:00] studies. They took it down off of a YouTube. They said that it doesn't, uh, the conflicts with the information that they provide about COVID-19. Now this was it. This was something that could show people how to not get lung damage when experiencing COVID-19 they don't want that information out there.

[00:40:18] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:40:18] Correct. They don't so everything. So now, now it's illegal for doctors to prescribe hydroxychloroquine zinc. It's it's, it's everything out there, you know, interferon alpha. I mentioned last time, um, you know, a $600 vile could protect, um, okay. A thousand of the most susceptible with a simple spray twice a day.

[00:40:42] Then I have that spray in my refrigerator and my husband who has COPD and is 82 and I use it. So we use it to protect ourselves, but the FDA, every single thing that that would help. Is being denied Americans and every single thing [00:41:00] that will harm them is being forced upon them.

[00:41:03] Carl Lanore: [00:41:03] So we have another question.

[00:41:04] And while the Facebook user's name is blocked because of his or her security, um, uh, settings, I have a feeling, this is my friend, Joel green, because he actually asked me this question. When he heard you were coming back on the show. He said, my question for dr. Markovitz relates to SARS Cove too. One assertion being made by another doctor is that the virus has not been isolated.

[00:41:27] Can you speak to this has SARS Cove to been isolated and purified using the same standards you used to isolate age or more precisely the appropriate and properly accepted standards for identifying a unique virus.

[00:41:44] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:41:44] Um, I believe that the SARS code two has been isolated and purified in at least one study, but not, but using the methods we use for XMR B where you confirm that [00:42:00] isolation and you do the kinds of things that satisfy a causative agent that is.

[00:42:06] That it's infectious and transmissible that it can primary and secondary infection. Um, none of that's been done. And the electron micrographs that I've seen actually are just exosomes and things like that. And the testing that is done, you know, so that, that's why I say I haven't seen a single piece of data that said anywhere that SARS Cove to cause the single death.

[00:42:33] And, and that, and that's because you have to do an autopsy, you have to open up that person and show virus budding from the lungs. And so autopsies weren't allowed to be done. So you need to see it budding from sales and I've never seen any M showing it budding from cells isolated. Yes. Budding meaning the cell is producing and you can see exactly which shell.

[00:42:57] That's what we did in all of our studies with [00:43:00] HIV, with HTLV, one with XMR bees, the three families of human retroviruses. You must see the budding and you must isolate it. You must show it's infectious and transmissible. When you purify that and infect somebody else. They get diseased that's coats, fascial it through Hill's criteria and in COVID-19, none of that's been done in a contaminated faulty PCR test PCR testing is not done with, with diagnostics.

[00:43:28] It's not intended to, it says nothing about infection and the serology tests are being lied about.

[00:43:35] Carl Lanore: [00:43:35] If I can't see the Facebook user's name. If this is Joel green, please write your name and post it or whoever you are. I just want you to get credit because it looks like this is, uh, another comment by the same person perhaps is actually whistleblowers in science or routine routinely punished.

[00:43:52] You look at dr. Peter Duisburg for one with HIV. There's several leading psychiatric [00:44:00] researchers that will ostracize. When they spoke out against the current paradigm in psychiatry. As being wrong, this list goes on forever. Yes. Carl it's Joel. I knew it was him because the questions that I could actually, when I was reading these questions, I heard his voice in my head and I was like, Oh, this has to be Joel.

[00:44:19] Thank you, Joel. And thank you for raising the bar. Thank you for raising

[00:44:24] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:44:24] that for me, what's important. You know, Peter Duesberg and I were colleagues. So he said he made the simple statement. HIV does not cause AIDS because to be causative everyone with the disease, with the infection much, have the didn't.

[00:44:38] And we then discovered part of my PhD research was that, Hey, there are millions of people walking around with HIV who will never get AIDS if they use the right pre exposure prophylaxis for the high risk categories. So everything, and that's what the books talk about. And in fact, um, Joel, it's, uh, in our, um, In [00:45:00] our book, plague of corruption, Bobby Kennedy wrote when he did exactly that he showed investigators for six decades, Bobby Kennedy, jr.

[00:45:09] Who have been ostracized, their lives destroyed their careers destroyed. Upper up, you know, specifically the vaccine transmission, what our discovery in 2011, when we realized how, um, the confirmation of our XMR V viruses in CFS, chronic fatigue syndrome was done by an investigator who'd been working in thinking mycoplasma caused AIDS in the, um, And in the eighties and nineties, and, and he put a box in the freezer that he called non HIV AIDS.

[00:45:44] Um, and this is the confirmation of our work that was published in P and S by Shane lo and Harvey alter. And I can show you that publication and what their paper said. We thought out a box that said non HIV AIDS. Because there was no evidence of HIV. [00:46:00] And at the end of the day, um, he pulled it out when he saw our 2009 publication and six and 86% had XMR V infection, the mouse retroviruses.

[00:46:13] And there were more strains than the ones that had been originally identified. So we confirmed and extended our studies and the big Oh my God. With the government. Is that makes sense. Um, that makes us and, and Peter Duesberg right. That HIV didn't cause AIDS because if you had XMR B and HIV and the blood supply cane was heavily contaminated 10% for 30 years from 91 until our work in 2011.

[00:46:41] The blood supply had been heavily contaminated by contagious cancer and neuro immune autism and CFS, um, lupus, Lou Gehrig's disease, Parkinson's disease, chronic life. These viruses and microbes were in these, in the blood supply and the big, [00:47:00] Oh my God. Well, as you know, that's why I had to go away. So they did the same thing to Harvey alter and Shai shushing lo they, they forced the, they didn't force the retraction.

[00:47:10] They were, they withdraw, withdrew their work because they had no more samples to test. But when they went back, they had a few patients who were still alive from that box of samples and they could identify them. They went back and found the exact same thing. Yeah, that yes, this day they were harboring these retroviruses and that, and this is COVID-19 is a coverup for this work and, and HIV.

[00:47:34] And, and so what they did to me in the, in, in 11, come on, Judy HIV, uh, XMR bees don't exist if they did the AIDS patients, um, what HIV infected people will all have them. And I said, because they're the ones who die. In the first round that wave where everybody, cause you can't take out the two parts of immune system.

[00:47:57] These two viruses work [00:48:00] together, the retroviruses and they just steroid not only your CD four T cells, but XMR V could infect every cell of the body. So what do we start to see clinically about COVID-19. Coronaviruses don't cause blood disease, microvasculature, bleeding disorders, every Kawasaki disease, everything that we associated, 32 diseases that we and I, and this is the Royal, we, this is people from around the world.

[00:48:28] And in that two years, people realize the magnitude, you know, 50 million Americans, then those are the ones. If they get injected again, They will die. So, so they're going and they're burning them. They're not allowing autopsies, let's go there. And this is what happened in Italy. Some of the autism autopsies said, um, there was bacterial component.

[00:48:52] Of course they are pathogens, rarely travel alone.

[00:48:56] Carl Lanore: [00:48:56] Interesting. We have to take, we have to take our last commercial break when we come back, we'll [00:49:00] wrap this up. Okay. Dr. Judy, stay with me. We'll be right back with more. You were listening to the superhuman channel. Don't hate us because we feel good. That's right.

[00:49:12] Don't hate us because we feel good.

[00:49:14] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:49:14] Yeah, exactly. I hate us because we're happy, smiling and breathing air.

[00:49:18] Carl Lanore: [00:49:18] So Joel green both texted me and posted this. Um, and I just got to put this up and I'm going to let you go, cause I know you have lots, lots going on. He said, um, This is astounding he's I think this is the first time anywhere.

[00:49:29] The ideology of SARS Cove to purification identification has been laid out and he said to me, wow, she just exploded the whole COVID pandemic. So it's been isolated, but not taken to the next level via autopsy call. You realize this is the first time in the world. This has been expounded on. Is that true?

[00:49:50] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:49:50] Yeah. Yeah, because people aren't saying it, dr. Andy Kaufman said it hadn't been isolated. And I looked carefully at those electron micrographs and found one paper where they [00:50:00] did have electron micrographs and we know they're growing it in the monkey kidney cells and manufacturing and in those cells. So they're, they're purified, but they've never done the next level.

[00:50:09] They just assigned it as causative and, and, and exploded the planned demic, um, as planned. So

[00:50:16] Carl Lanore: [00:50:16] the website is planned. Let me do this real quick plan. Demic movie, M O V I e.com. The website is plan DEMEC PLA N D E M I C M O V I E I O M O V I E a. And that is the website that people can go to if they want to watch the documentary.

[00:50:36] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:50:36] And it's on PR it's on brighton.com where it hasn't been taken down. And then I sent, I text you a picture of Mickey, um, will, as he's got the second part of that movie, 45 minutes coming out, I heard by June 26th. And you can email and sign up and post that in your listeners can get an email directly to them [00:51:00] to share so that it doesn't get sent

[00:51:02] Carl Lanore: [00:51:02] in two things I want to repeat.

[00:51:03] And then I'm going to let you go. Number one, dr. Judy is not an anti-vaxxer. She's explained that with her own mouth. So people who manage Wikipedia, take that down. Number one, and number two while. She has been discredited, nothing she's ever said has been disproven that, think about that. Think about Copernicus.

[00:51:23] They discredited him because he said that the earth went around the sun. But at that time, the theory was the sun went around the earth. He was discredited, but he was never disproven. And in fact, a hundred years later he was proven to be right. So people don't be sheeple. Think use your brain, dr. Judy, thanks for being here today.

[00:51:46] And I wish you a lot of luck. I wish you a lot of luck for very selfish reasons. So that's a lot, a lot more people will, will survive

[00:51:54] Dr. Judy Mikovits: [00:51:54] really? Yeah. As do I, that it's not about me at all. It's about our very humanity.

[00:51:59] Carl Lanore: [00:51:59] Thank you. [00:52:00] Thank you for being here. We'll talk again soon. I we're going to take one last commercial break and when we come back, I have a really, really important message for you.

[00:52:07] So stay tuned. This is the superhuman channel, doing reps with the weight of the world.

[00:52:19] Welcome back. I'll be real quick. I've said on the show for a long time, the new evolutionary selection pressures, where you get your information from. And it's never been truer than right now at this moment, because there is misinformation out there that selfishly selfishly will cost you years of your life and perhaps your life in general and that of your family and friends.

[00:52:44] So you have to be selective the whole time. I was talking to dr. Judy, I'm thinking to myself, why are people buying into this? Everybody's got to realize that this whole thing is a theatrical, uh, Exercise on the media. They just, [00:53:00] they move us one day. They've got us all looking at that. Okay. That's over now.

[00:53:04] We've got to look at this. Okay. That's all. And now we gotta look at that. We have to stop. We have to stop. So why aren't people willing to stop? Why aren't people willing to disconnect and use their own brain? Well, number one, It's been habit into them by American medical association and other organizations like that, that you're too stupid to understand this stuff.

[00:53:28] You can't understand science, you're not a doctor. Meanwhile, a doctor is you just with different books that they've read, you know, number one, but more importantly, governments want you to have to depend on them. That keeps them employed. That helps them grow bigger and bigger. The government thinks you're too stupid to make decisions for yourself to care for yourself.

[00:53:53] Now, granted, there are some people on this planet that are too stupid, but you're not one of them. If you're [00:54:00] listening to this show. So do this one thing for me in the upcoming weeks in the upcoming weeks, have the courage not to just take what the media says as gospel truth. Questioned them. They've been wrong over and over again.

[00:54:19] They're wrong. Every single day, they're wrong. Every single week, they're wrong. All the time science has been wrong. You know, tobacco is safe now. It's not safe. I mean, come on. Don't be so shortsighted. Don't have such a short memory, stop believing and trusting. Don't follow. If somebody is telling you to obey, ask why the only time someone tells you, you must obey.

[00:54:45] Is when they want you to do something that's not in your best interest, right. If you're trying to get out of a sinking ship and somebody says, no, I'm the captain. You can't leave. You're going to listen to him. No, but he wants you to obey. He's an authority where you [00:55:00] have to obey me. I'm the captain. No, I don't have to obey you.

[00:55:04] The harder people work to try to get you to believe something, stop, step back and ask yourself, why are they working so hard to get me to believe that now in the end, you may end up believing it, but at least apply critical thinking, ask the questions, be willing to get the answers that you don't want because it's getting ugly out there.

[00:55:28] It really is. And if things keep going the way they're going now. I mean, there's a lot more people that are going to die because of misinformation and it doesn't have to be that way. I don't want you to be one of those people. I certainly don't want to be one of those people. So for the next couple of weeks, When you do watch the news and I suggest you don't, I don't anymore.

[00:55:52] In fact, those of you follow me on Facebook. See, I've been missing an action, at least the past five or six days. And I intend to stay that way. I'm not, [00:56:00] I'm not, not playing into this anymore. I'm not being a participant, but from now on when you watch the news, if it doesn't make sense to you, like why is a governor telling people it's okay to protest and riot?

[00:56:15] But it's not okay to go to your grandmother's funeral, you know, and I'm not saying you got to rebel, but at least acknowledge the, the misinformation of that. That's it. The first step is identifying fact from fiction. That's it. Then that will end up making you change the way you navigate life. And that's all I've got for today.

[00:56:44] Tomorrow, we have the renal life, our rec show I'm off the air on Friday. Please share this show. By the way, I predict that this show will be taken off of YouTube quickly. For those of you who are watching YouTube live and probably somehow pushed down in the [00:57:00] ratings and Facebook. So let's share it from the website because I have control on what's on my website.

[00:57:06] I'll uh, I'll promote this show to all of you so that you can share it from the website so other people can watch and listen. All right. Thank you for being here. Thank you for the participation. Uh, check out plan DEMEC movie.com and, uh, we'll see, uh, we'll see, dr. Judy again, I'm sure. Okay. Take care everybody. [00:58:00]