Adam Lamb

Human Leukocyte Antigen B27 (HLA-B27) is a genetic marker of autoimmunity that leads to horrific life-derailing disorders. Almost all effect a degrading of chondrocytes and soft tissue that causes immense pain and disability. A few of the disorders caused by HLA-B27 is ankylosing spondylitis, inflammation of the eyes, several forms of joint pain and arthritis, joint stiffness, skin lesions, and much more. The standard of care is biologics that weaken the immune system that carry a host of negative side effects. But what if a simple vitamin could actually eliminate the pain and symptoms better than dangerous biologics? Could it be that the medical orthodoxy doesn't know about this? Or are they just ignoring it?

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[00:02:07] [00:02:00] Welcome back to the ReNew Life RX show. How you doing? Adam? I'm doing awesome. How are you? Carl? Wonderful little scoot scoot around with the post-op Foot Repair, dude. I almost I almost killed myself the other day with that scooter.  I don't know if anybody if any of you have ever had foot surgery and had to use a knee scooter to get around.

[00:02:29] They're really handy. I mean they really are but I was coming down the hill the other day in the brakes didn't work.  I had to throw my foot down both my feet down to keep myself from crashing and I did I did do a little tiny tiny tiny bit of damage to the foot. The doctor said it's not going to be permanent damage, but stay the F off the foot.

[00:02:50] He said not like I did it on purpose duck. But there are some advantages to that scooter man. Like I can Buzz [00:03:00] through the grocery store so fast and get stuff and throw it in the basket that I keep on the handlebars and this morning I had to get you. What's that? No, no God one time. I was on vacation at the huge Resort and I thought there's this there's a guy that had a scooter.

[00:03:15] He was an injury similar your situation. He was cruising through everything. Maybe I need to bring one of these next time there's a little beach bag over the front of the scooter and I just you know in my flip-flop just push around. Well, you know, you could do that with like a razor. Remember. I'm sure you bought your kids razors back in the day, right?

[00:03:32] Yeah. I mean you can if you had a razor with a sling on it, you could throw it over your shoulder and you could do that. The nice scooter is in his is is good because literally you knee starts to hurt. From being on there so you can't do it like for long-term like the rays are you could go for a one-mile scooter if you wanted to but this.

[00:03:54] I was telling my friend this girl that trains at the gym. I trained a Tiffany. She saw me buzzing around I [00:04:00] said this morning there's this to pec deck machines. One of them was used and I literally saw a guy heading towards the other one and I scooted so fast then like pulled up in front of a jumped off and sat down and she goes man.

[00:04:13] She says I saw you she said you're really learning how to take advantage of that thing. I says, I know I says I can I can move so fast with it. It's amazing, but the brakes don't work. That's the only thing. So hopefully that the recovery ends up being quick for you and your offset scooter and back to student run on your own two feet.

[00:04:33] I think in about two weeks. I think two weeks. I'll be back to normal. I really do.  It's all so let's let's talk about this this discussion today. And this is something that probably no one is really talking about right and that's the leucocyte. Human, leukocyte antigen B27 what made you interested in it?

[00:04:53] First of all and explain to the audience what it is.  Yeah, and you might I struggle to pronounce [00:05:00] lot of those words. I think that's somewhat why I'm good with the hormone replacement therapy is explaining bloodwork and hormones and how it works. In layman's terms. A lot of it is at pronouncing.

[00:05:09] Some of those words are challenging. But so the HLA B27 test its testing for a genetic disposition to be have a potential autoimmune disease, right which I recently tested positive for but that's kind of like it's like running a race and not Norman Finish Line is. And then someone's like oh here's now you actually know what path you is supposed to be on and I say that it sounds confusing but it's to let you know kind of like where my head was for the last six months and how confused I was.

[00:05:45] So let me take you back six months. And the reason I want to share this story is that some people might be dealing with this and not knowing have gone through this process not know it right Ryan by me talking about were started as what it was a [00:06:00] physician really great guy right because because because the basic symptoms that you get from this autoimmunity don't they don't connect easily.

[00:06:10] You don't think like that has something to do with this and this has something to do with that. And you guys think what a resourceful person I am with the team members. I have the Physicians I'm able to talk to and I don't try to I try not to fuss about personal things because this person I struggle with that were you know, I'm not going to tell you what's going on.

[00:06:29] It's in my life. I'm usually in a position. I'm always there to serve and help right. So talking about me doesn't do that. But in this situation, I believe that sharing. Some story about what happened with me may bring hope and help to someone else right? So six months ago or Dominican Republic for a wedding for a family member of ours is getting married.

[00:06:51] We're down there. I got really sick. I had something happened like three days in I got really sick diarrhea for days. I mean literally I could drink [00:07:00] a glass of water and I had to go to that is like a straight pipe through my system, right? It was terrible. I felt like how I lost 12 pounds. Two days coincidentally and a blessing.

[00:07:11] I had my blood work done. I get my blood work done every three months and it just so happened that I had it done that week before I went out of town in June. So I had a reference point which was often like what it was a blessing to be able to know like we're how was I before I got here. So I come back from Dominican Republic still feeling crappy things kind of got the symptoms of the stomach part of it went away.

[00:07:37] I was like, okay, maybe I can get back to it. Let's get back to hydrating eat some food. Go to the gym feel good. Well, then like two days later. I woke up with this crazy pain in my back like crazy rating around my rib cage. I mean it felt like I fell off the roof and broke ribs or something like that, but nothing happened.

[00:07:58] I just got out of bed. So [00:08:00] I'm like maybe I pulled something I was dehydrated and yeah, I'm not trying to go through the logic of my head of what could explain this right I go. See my wife's car practice. We do x-rays. Nothing nothing's in there other like old stuff. It was actually kind of quick funny stories.

[00:08:16] Like how many rooms you broke in your life and I'm like, I'm not undergone the doctor for he's a coward like six to seven that was like really from and you never you never knew about you never knew about it. Never knew about it. No Borden racing motorcycles bikes like fight you name it like just just beat now out of my body which led to the neck surgery.

[00:08:37] So I'm like. I can't figure this out. Finally. I call the primary care and I'm like dude. I don't know what's going on. We come in run blood work my sed rate through the roof and might see record protein, which is something that we check with our clients not always but especially if there's any kind of hint of looking at information.

[00:08:57] I'm not that the he wrecked the protein lets you [00:09:00] tell it doesn't tell you exactly it just tells you that there is no conflict in there is maybe a problem. We don't really know what it is. You got to do further testing but my few active protein before I went out of town and so for the listeners to have like a understanding the the series of proteins like 0 2 4 4 / 4S Hi and then there's the kind of break it down from one like 1.0 below is low risk.

[00:09:25] One two three is average three to four is kind of like higher risk in over four is kind of sounds going on, right and it can just be lifestyle stuff that can put you in any of those buckets before I went. I would like 0.3 or something like super low, right? And when we checked it two weeks later after I've been home 32.5.

[00:09:47] Like literally gone, you know a hundred times inflammation crazy stuff and I felt it. Like I felt my body just had that like fiery fever like what's going on I'm [00:10:00] dying, right we couldn't figure out what it was. They said what's a rheumatologist they checked everything for HIV. West Nile you're freaking out of my crytek breath caught HIV and the Dominican Republic to psi family what how could that even happen?

[00:10:16] Right but your brain is because you're just like what could it be? Because you can't put your thumb on this stuff. So checking me Perla West Nile Virus always different rheumatoid. Arthritis Lyme disease like every Stone worth trying to turn out. We're trying to figure this out. So everything comes back like.

[00:10:36] Not totally normal, but it normal in the sense of not no no flags of that like maybe a little Celiac, you know, it's a little gluten allergy which already knew some of those kind of things but but we didn't check this to this rheumatologist. And so I've still dealing with this part of the pain is kind of subsided to the point at this point left my back.

[00:10:57] To where it's just annoying to [00:11:00] wear when I flew up at night. It felt like I was sleeping if you've ever got laid down on the floor and then like your whole rib cage hurts, like that's what it felt like to sleep in my very nice mattress. So it didn't make sense. It's all internal and systemic and it and then I had inflammation going to my knees in my feet some both of my feet felt like I had plantar fasciitis.

[00:11:20] I'm not a runner. I had no reason to have that. And then it worked its way into my right Achilles tendon and inflammation so bad that I actually just in walking around ended up with a small tear which is really the only thing that's kind of hindering me today because it wouldn't heal and this. No called Late July by now.

[00:11:41] Right am I need is tendonitis in my knee where I could barely walk upstairs? I'd hold the handrail right? It's no reason there's no I didn't pull anything of it squatting wasn't doing anything to you know from a from a human standpoint psychological standpoint it I didn't have it in me to [00:12:00] go upstairs to tuck my kids in at night, which is something that's very very important to me.

[00:12:04] So it's like it starts messing with your site, right and. So that's summer I'm doing this in all the other things that every show, you know, I've been on with you so far. I feel better today than I felt that wow going going through all that stuff. I mean feeling like, you know when you feel like you're coming down with something.

[00:12:22] That was every single day. But you just eventually if you do it, right, you know, here's the stuff that I have to do today. I can't feel like shit. I gotta move and I don't want to take pain meds and get into that old mess. Right? Cuz that's what they're called the station, you know, what Hydrocodone or whatever a couple times a day and here's the meloxicam for the inflammatory.

[00:12:42] Here's the muscle relaxer and I'm like no I'm against all that stuff. I can't go I can't turn into that. Right? It's all I was doing was a lot. The psychological side of this because and I have the resources to hormone and this all the sufferings great doctors that are really smart.  And so that's [00:13:00] what led to my next surgery because we did all these MRIs my spine trying to figure out if it's something going on there that's causing the inflammation and then in looking at my neck.

[00:13:09] Everybody was like you're not really Jack and it's not gonna get any better. I maxed out my. Deductible and I was like, well, I might as well just get this neck surgery. Maybe that is a maybe that's it. Right. So my next surgery actually just went yes two days ago six weeks out post-op and then doctors like I haven't had anyone heal as well as you and with the crazy part is why I went for my one month post-op or three week post-op, whatever it was.

[00:13:36] And he's like you were healing phenomenally and I'm thinking I just will cover a recovery from this neck surgery in my doctors words of phenomenally in this Achilles tendon and knee pain won't go away. Yeah, right does it doesn't they don't yet? You would think you would think that this would impair the recovery to what he just did in your spine.

[00:13:57] Yeah. Yeah, and it was [00:14:00] like I just didn't make sense and I'm like what the hell is going on? So we get to it's, you know, just December Christmas time and I really like psychologically hit this low. Whereas like the day after Christmas. We're in my head. I was like, you know what that's it. I'm going to have to just be the Vicodin three times a day person and like other people do it.

[00:14:20] I'm sorry just found out I just because it's so you get so frustrated with this. The pain peace and there's no hope right? Like I went gluten-free grain-free change this change that like now, but I did you but did you notice it? So so I don't want to pass up on this. Did you notice even a reduction in pain when you cut grains out a little bit but I don't think I was paying attention cause here's the deal.

[00:14:45] I might cut green out and then maybe my the physical demand that I have for the day. With high so it's going to be more inflamed and my ankle anyway, right look if we did maybe I went to the [00:15:00] you know, alright. Tripped on something or sitting at my desk and I my you know, I put my foot back my achilles tendon hit the little thing on my chair which could mean such off and crazy paying the rest of the day is terrible from a pain standpoint matter.

[00:15:14] What the hell is a yeah, you can't really control for those things and tease them out. I get it I get it. Yeah, but yes, I do think that when I drop sugar drop grain. In kept things like a gluten-free almost keto focused right? I do tend to eat that way. It was good. And I also noticed I also like gummy bears and selfish kid and I remember multiple times where maybe like Hey, we're going to go to the movies my son and I lacrosse get some celebration.

[00:15:43] And I could feel inflammation. It was like feeding. Yeah, the sugar I great they really really went up. I'm massively to were like, you know that they said that feeling of like I'm coming down with something like you can feel it in the in the difference every time was [00:16:00] like significant crap versions of sugar just put into my system.

[00:16:04] So back to the day after Christmas where I'm kind of mentally was like I guess I'm just gonna have to deal with these pain meds had a another position that we're going to be doing some business with as far as I say that was kind of hoping that bolt him onto his what we do so that we can help more people.

[00:16:23] But we're talking just just doesn't stop at hormones and different kind of things from you know, lifestyle optimization said that he believes in we believe in things like that and I kind of share a little bit about my story and he's like, you know, have you ever been tested the HLA B27. And I said no, he's like, well, here's he that had another suggested another one with Alzheimer's test.

[00:16:45] And then when I don't have as much information out of came back negative meaning that you may have a predisposition for Alzheimer's based on like this E3 E4 III III and I'll learn more about that will put that one on another. Well, yeah we back we actually do is we actually [00:17:00] just covered that after a couple months ago with dr.

[00:17:04] Dale bredesen who he's been on my show a couple times. He wrote the book and then to Alzheimer's and he talked about the genetic markers for this you there's three different levels of genetic. Predispositions to developing Alzheimer's and then there's actually a fourth where you don't you don't have any of them and we actually covered that in pretty good depth.

[00:17:25] Well what he was his the part with it though that I think could add to this and he was saying based on he's like you might come back for not being less likely to had Alzheimer's but it could this correlations to the genetic part of it that also can make sense along with how to treat this other.

[00:17:44] Okay. Okay. Yeah, it's and I don't remember exactly him in our default call the next day or two to talk really deep into this sauce more information and I think having listens go through the Journey but at a high level of like well, he's like you're probably gonna be positive. So I'm like, okay.

[00:17:59] Well then [00:18:00] what's the game plan? Do I just have to deal with this? He's like no. No. No, we can we most likely can reverse this whole thing and I was like what he goes. Yeah high-dose vitamin C and we haven't gone over like the the treatment plan yet. But you know for the most part people are out there.

[00:18:15] They're taking the best to take an Humira Samara. Whatever their oh, yeah, they're taking it Taking biologics that a horrible horrible horrible drugs right that are suppressing your immune system. The opposite thing is we go crazy on your immune system. So your immune system will get it together.

[00:18:31] Basically, in fact the things it's supposed to be fighting as opposed to fighting itself. And so I was like, wow that's interesting. And so the next day I went and got blood work done and but I didn't know I had to wait for five days of the results come back soon as over like New Year's my feeling I went on a trip just kind of like a little road trip in the day.

[00:18:49] I got back. It's a wild in the road trip. I wrote this book really interesting. If you want a good read it's called curing the incurable. It's all about vitamin C [00:19:00] infectious disease toxins, and this goes into my doctor played by doctors time. Is it by dr. Thomas leave? I believe so. Yeah, he was he's been on my show quite a few times and we covered that book when it was published.

[00:19:14] Actually, you know, he's healing component Third Edition. Yeah. Yeah Thomas leaving. Yeah. So he's a huge proponent of the vitamin C. I just took before the show, which is live on Labs liposomal vitamin C, but that's another discussion entirely the way yeah, I'm glad you shared that so that I read his book.

[00:19:35] And I like to miss I haven't had it like I was making my wife and I kind of got here this need everything from all these different polio HIV flu like all this stuff on the vitamin C and I was like man, this makes sense. I kind of found a little bit of excited right Susan got home. I did nine thousand milligrams of Vitamin C orally neck that night slept the best like [00:20:00] I'm talking to five hours of sleep without me waking up and seeing the alarm clock is.

[00:20:04] Is world changing user I'm like every hour or two because I was in pain or discomfort woke up information gone. My knees. Don't hurt my back didn't hurt like Achilles tendons, you know, there's still like I said, there's a tear so it was like it's still not awesome. But literally the first time I could jump.

[00:20:25] In six months without even trying to take a jump shot at the gym, like just goof around my kids whole body pains like someone hit you with the bat and I gone like my energy and I love interest between eight to nine thousand milligrams of Vitamin C today. And so I'm going to learn more about what the regiment is going to look like.

[00:20:44] Intravenous. Well, I want to I want to I want to I want to take a break I want to come back and I want to go through the complete list of potential symptoms that people can feel if they do test positive or if they have the HLA B27 but then [00:21:00] I want to tell you why you may want to use liposomal instead of intravenous and I'll go with something that was in his book toward you and I remember looking it up you can you can actually get your blood levels.

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[00:21:59] Check [00:22:00] them out. We'll be right back.  Welcome back to the ReNew Life RX Show with Adam Lamb and myself. So.  You know, one of the things that's interesting when you read symptoms about a particular condition is people forget that you may just have one of these things. And it may not be exactly where it's supposed to be.

[00:22:26] So like an atom's case, right? They say joint pain, right? Okay stiffness or swelling of your spine or neck or chest not it could be it could be between two ribs in your chest. It doesn't have to be your entire chest inflammation of your joints or here's annexing one your urethra. Accompanied by another symptom is skin lesions.

[00:22:55] So you may just have the skin lesions and you may be getting them on your legs and then your arms or your [00:23:00] chest with a and then this is an interesting about this Carl got my brother has the same thing. And we don't wear a super close. We don't talk all the time with his kind of hearing through my mom's and stuff.

[00:23:12] He was having spots in his skin. Yes having radiation in his ribs. And when him and I finally I reached out to him and I was like, hey, man, what blah blah blah. We tell you like you're the first ones ever talked to actually understand he's been going to dr. All this different stuff immune system suppressing medication and all that kind of stuff.

[00:23:30] He has a standing we both had the same its. Of course at the far end up looking for my mom or my dad but his symptoms are different than mine. He also doesn't go to the gym every day. Did he do I do so his lifestyle the way it affected his lifestyle with different than the way it affected mine, but it's stemming from the same thing.

[00:23:48] Here's here's an interesting image. Here's an interesting symptom and this may happen by itself. So I want to make sure people understand you may not have joint pain. You may not have stiffness [00:24:00] and swelling in your spine neck or chest or even you know, some region similar to that in your case ankles, right?

[00:24:07] You may not have inflammation in your wreath for that presents. Every time you urinate some sort of pain or or sensation. You may not have skin lesions. You may just have inflammation in your eye. Your doctor may have told you know your eyes are inflamed. You got dry eye from it your Lids kind of get red and you just don't know why you know, it's like it comes in a goes it comes in and goes and I'm sure there's a nutritional component to it because there is a nutritional component to every autoimmune disorder in the world.

[00:24:39] But with that being said you may have one of those or you may have something you may have swelling inflammation in your ankles only also something called reactive. Reactive arthritis. Yes. That's the one that's the one that fits [00:25:00] my Mo the most as far as the reactive arthritis and it it can start with either something too.

[00:25:08] The digestive system or even a sexually transmitted disease that infection can set the inflammation marker off while to go into because it's in your system and not everybody that tests positive for the HLA B27. It doesn't mean you're going to it's not going to go into look flare up or whatever, but it's just typical symptom and it's not listed here like.

[00:25:32] Hello, Manila singularly or whatever. I mean a lot of things I can't pronounce but they're ugly intestinal bacterial infections, which makes sense because I got super sick in Dominican Republic ice. And then that's and then it bam it Bingo and what that so what are the key things? They didn't say earlier that I think's important mentioned when I was explaining to this doctor.

[00:25:52] I'm I'm Utah as he said, you know what but to that infection isn't even dead. It just keeps. Pumping at you every single day. That's [00:26:00] why the vitamin C. So why I took that load of vitamin C that we believe that that may have just knocked it out. So now my body can actually start going into more of a remission State and healing as opposed to every single day being Groundhog Day of pain and fatigue.

[00:26:17] I want to talk about vitamin C for just a second also now so dumb. Dr. Tom Thomas Levy was on my show for the first time. I don't know five years ago, so. And we talked about vitamin C therapy in general at first, you know, as you know, he's written a book about vitamin C exclusively and back then he was a huge proponent of intravenous vitamin C because that was the easiest way to get the vitamin C into the bloodstream in large doses.

[00:26:49] The problem with vitamin C whether it's intravenous or whether you take it orally the problem with taking it orally is your body will regulate just how [00:27:00] much it allows to get into the bloodstream and how much it gets excreted. And the more you take does it mean the more there's a top point of absorption for oral vitamin C.

[00:27:11] But the problem with all vitamin C's is this vitamin C only works when it's in the cell. And moving through the cell membrane the vitamin C becomes oxidized now think about this you want the antioxidant value of vitamin C. But when it passes into the cell where you want it, it has it has no antioxidant qualities anymore because it actually becomes oxidized in the process of passing through the cell wall, then it has to wait.

[00:27:43] For something like glutathione or something else to come along and replenish its oxidative its antioxidant values when you take glutathione in a liposomal form the vitamin C [00:28:00] molecule is encased in a bubble of fat. And as such number one, you can actually get more of it into your bloodstream because it's in it's absorbed through the lymphatic system.

[00:28:11] It's not digested through the gut number one. Not only you can get more but here's the real value of liposomal vitamin C.  The the membrane on your cell is a fact. The vitamin C is encapsulated in a fat. It's almost like a trojan horse when the molecule the liposome attaches to the cell wall the vitamin C passes through the cell wall and remains.

[00:28:40] With its antioxidant value, it does not become oxidized. So it enters the cell and it can do the job. It does have to wait for somebody to come along and help it do its job. It can do the job that was intended. So not only can you get blood levels as high as intravenous vitamin C with liposomal.

[00:28:58] But you'll see a greater [00:29:00] effect. You can actually use less because it enters the cell in a nun oxidized form and I take a thousand milligrams of liposomal vitamin C every single day and I can tell you that's like somebody taking 10,000 IU's of just plain old sorbic acid and its normal form and and live on Labs is the single bed.

[00:29:21] They are the Pioneer they have pioneered and they've perfected delivering vitamin C in a liposome. They are the ones that dr. Levy uses now. There's one caveat. Okay, and I have to say this because so many people on this carnivore diet vitamin C increases ferritin production ferritin is a protein designed to shuttle iron into the body and into the cells.

[00:29:50] So if you're eating a high Hemi iron diet. And you're taking large doses of Vitamin C. You could actually manufacture iron overload [00:30:00] because what you're doing is you're turning on a super absorption of the iron and your building more ferritin, which is going to do a much better job of planting it in.

[00:30:09] In tissue, so just be aware that if you're taking large doses of Vitamin C therapeutically, you should monitor your your iron intake and especially heme iron, but even plant-based iron is better absorbed when you're using vitamin C. So just keep that in the back of your head monitor your iron intake if you're taking high doses of vitamin C.

[00:30:30] Let's get information. I think that a few things of what you just said is, you know when you soon as you said live on labs and. That's one of the like I'm familiar with that because it's it's a an ad or something that you spoke about before and then I think the fact that you knew who the author was at that book that was done.

[00:30:49] So incredibly, well, it's a little boring if you need if you're not into the research stuff, but if you're in the research stuff, it's amazing. And I think even the [00:31:00] fact that you mentioned about the high dose vitamin C with you know, I eat a lot of red meat. And so I have to pay attention more now.

[00:31:09] Well well, but here's but here's something you can do to balance that corset in is becoming more and more popular in the anti aging Community actually Bill Sardi New this many years ago. He was a forerunner. He used quercetin along with resveratrol in his original Resveratrol product. Nobody knows how many more I don't even think he's selling this product anymore.

[00:31:30] But he was the first one about 10 years ago to say quercetin is an anti-aging Miracle well, One of the things corset and does is three molecules of corset and will bond to one molecule of iron and actually through the methylation pot process allow you to excrete it. So if you're going to take high-dose vitamin C, you should absolutely certain supplement with quercetin or quercetin whatever you want to call it as a as a way to balance iron absorption and [00:32:00] iron excretion.

[00:32:00] That's diss my approach to that's how I handle it now myself personally. That's interesting. That's good. Let's get valuable information for myself personally and I think for the listeners out there to to learn more about it. So I have some questions for you. So once you started taking the vitamin C, you literally saw the onset of of the suppression of the symptoms in in a day, right?

[00:32:26] I'm talking I woke up in my knee didn't hurt anymore. Like zero, it's I can feel in both knees a little bit of weakness. I can also still feel in my back like a little stiffness but not like, you know a throbbing issue to where like every time I've had to go upstairs to go downstairs a hundred percent of the time I had to do like the one leg thing.

[00:32:54] Right right the first time I've been able to go put this foot than that put this foot in that but [00:33:00] downstairs in six months. I was like, what is it in the last week? And and these these changes have sustained as long as you've been taking the vitamin C right, correct? It was a dude what I've been doing but I do you know, I also do glutathione injection.

[00:33:17] So it's interesting you mention that I do do anywhere from fifty to a hundred milligrams glutathione intramuscular every day. Now keep in mind now. Keep in mind we do that through the ReNew Life are but keep in mind for those people who don't want to get injections liposomal vitamin liposomal glutathione plant does the same thing it's that it enters the cell on oxidized and so live on Labs has the dynamic duo.

[00:33:47] They have the liposomal vitamin C and they have the liposomal glutathione. It's five hundred fifty milligrams. Of liposomal glutathione per packet you could you could you could you know, if you want to really Throw Down The Gauntlet you could take two or three of those a [00:34:00] day along with two or three vitamin C's, but I would be interesting to see.

[00:34:05] If you would be willing to put yourself through the potential pain of backing off of all these for two or three days is just see if these Pains come back because that would be like if it if that happened and then use that they want then I would say, you know, I would bow at your feet and say damn you found it you found it, right?

[00:34:25] And so that's that's something I consider like this morning. I was like, maybe I'm not going to take vitamin C and I'll be honest if he calls you see you can have a you and the listeners got a magnitude of the discomfort and the pain is literally scared to do it. Yeah, but I've got I'm gonna because I feel like in my head I think of what I want to do is connect with the doc a bit more for our action plans where he's like this he's companies like over and reverse this shit man, three weeks going to feel like a million bucks and like really he's like, yeah.

[00:34:58] And so for [00:35:00] me, you know, I'm a spiritual guy and I believe I went through this process so that I can tell more people like, you know, I'm a type of guy and you know that about me like if you light a fire in me, I'm going to run through walls to do it. And so now I can see if they're if I have like you said if I have a solution.

[00:35:15] I'm going to figure out every single person I can help. You know, if I know what you mean like when you feel horrible for a long time and then all of a sudden you find the answer and you don't feel good. You definitely don't want to go back and like and then put your head. You don't want to put your hand on the hot stove again, just to see if it's still hot, you know what I mean?

[00:35:32] So great analogy, and I'm but I'm going to do it because I want to be able to. You know be that vessel that can go through the process and say like yeah when I let down the vitamin C it went down and who knows it may be all my immune system needed was a crank. In the right direction to wipe out.

[00:35:52] Like I said the doc thought that you was I bet you that infections not gone and every day. It's just [00:36:00] poking at that. Right? And so what you have to do a is we get rid of the infection which potentially just a high dose of vitamin C did these to take 3000 milligrams of Vitamin C a day throughout the day for years even in my hardcore bodybuilding where I was doing all kinds of stuff to myself I did and then I stopped taking it about a year ago.

[00:36:19] I think anybody JC thought my interesting interesting and so I wondered if that just if it just kicked it right out. And then now this is my new I don't feel like a million bucks. Before I felt like death and now I feel like half a million. Right? Right and the most important thing that's been instilled in me is Hope where am I who there's actually maybe an answer because it fat, you know rewind to a couple weeks ago.

[00:36:47] I was thinking I'm going to be addicted to opiates in pain medicine because I can't I'm like I'm just I'm a strong guy, but I'm at with and yeah, and I know we you know to me now, I know that I [00:37:00] chronic disease chronic pain. I'm sorry chronic pain Rob's The Joy from your life. It keeps you from doing simple things that you used to love to do.

[00:37:10] I told the story that you know II put off getting surgery on this foot for two years. Because I didn't want anesthesia because of all the people that have died on the table because of the anesthesia and some unknown phenomenon that they didn't realize they had this problem and and so I lived with pain for two years and it got to the point where like if my laptop battery died.

[00:37:34] And I thought oh, I got to get my charger and then I thought oh it's upstairs. And then I thought oh, I've got to go up the stairs with the pain in his foot. I just close my laptop says I'll finish later and you know people would be like, oh we're going to go down to Bardstown Road and go walk the you know, they have the the first of the month they have the Trolley Hop and everybody's the shops were open and then Eliza would go to me.

[00:37:55] Oh, we would have to walk and I'd be like, yeah, I don't really feel like. And I mean [00:38:00] II toughed it out when we went to Ireland. I mean, I walked everywhere every single step was so painful and your brain literally. Runs out of the ability to manage the pain at a certain point because neurotransmitters are not endless and you run out and it's like that's it.

[00:38:18] I can't do anything else today. I'm putting my foot up and so I know you're talking about how life miserable we went on that vacation to Italy my wife and I and I was a big trip is super important to her and I you know, and I pulled it off like the least active summer I've ever had in my life, but we literally adopted a dog six months ago.

[00:38:35] I've never take him for a walk. Wow, I'm just like it's not worth the pain and that's what where you know when I went on the trip you my foot doc. Am I Primary Care was like, you know, just you may need to take a Vicodin wire there because I'm like, I'm not taking that stuff and like listen to turn be walking around and that's why I was like, maybe I'm going to have to deal with.

[00:38:58] This pain meds just to get through just [00:39:00] because I wanted my wife to have a good time. I don't want to be like I can't do this. Like we're in the most beautiful places. I've seen screens look like that in a world. I don't want to you know in so it made me empathetic for people because I'll be honest with you.

[00:39:14] There's times where someone's kind of talking about pain and I'm like man, come on rub some dirt on it. Get after it, but in that's my mentality still with pain, but when it's chronic pain and you're like dude, I rubbed every kind of dirt on it. You can come up with and this shit's not getting any better.

[00:39:32] I'm empathetic to that individual now and now, you know, if while we're talking about this is finding solutions to help more people like that. The same thing is the same thing that what got me to start the hormone replacement therapy is as I said, it's a crazy person. Trying to find a solution for someone who can help with low testosterone actually know what they're doing some more when you can't find it you make it but in that's kind of item mentality with this this process is maybe I can help more people with autoimmune some more [00:40:00] facts about HLA B27.

[00:40:04] If you have Ankylosing Spondylitis, you most likely will test positive HLA B27 is a lot of people whose lives are going to be cut short because of Ankylosing Spondylitis. It's a disease of the spine with a spine continues to fuse itself together and and you may want to start thinking about treating.

[00:40:28] Looking at the task for HLA B27 at the blood test and I bet you testimony can do through ReNew Life RX. We're this what some of the things we're doing in 2019 is outside of just hormone, but regenerative medicine, there's some stuff to snapshots. We're going to be looking into stem cells and a lot of this other stuff that we're going to be doing.

[00:40:47] To the clinic but this will be one of them in like I said that this stuff doesn't we don't start these things because we're like what we can make money we're starting these things because we're like, there's a need to help people [00:41:00] in our team and myself included in that really good at communicating and finding these people and explaining why.

[00:41:07] This might be an issue. Let's take a look at to see but it's a test that we're going to be implementing. Your 2019 is well because we have people to come to us whether they have chronic fatigue in the other hormones are right, right. We know about them as those how I feel. Still feeling low right on this.

[00:41:23] Well, it's not it's not adjusting your AI dose or just in your testosterone was going maybe it's something else right we're looking at and I want to make sure that I can look at that for you. Right because I care in any of the clients. You know that they know that at the end. How much is it? How much is the HLA B27 test run if somebody just want to get that done through?

[00:41:41] I have to get that figure back out, but I know that we're going to be running it. I don't know or right off the bat. It's not it's nothing crazy. You know, I don't know what it is ran through like healthcare insurance or actually getting a doctor. So I mean no one else could get those I had it done is because my resources in the docs like, you know, you get that done.

[00:41:58] I'm like cool. [00:42:00] Hey, we're all through our LabCorp and just went you know, it had it done but most people are in a situation where they. I have a medical practice that has a light bulb account right that to do that and you know what their I want to ask if I could read there's a testimony on the reason it's special for a couple reasons that I just received it the other day.

[00:42:19] It's a guy who's a listener of your show, and I wanted to read it please for the audience to hear and it's cool like one of those like, yeah, the typical testimony of us got some cool warm and fuzzies in it says and this is Ken. And that's all I'm not going to address. You can't say more about the individual but right and in these good people we have our folks send in some of these and there's one other one.

[00:42:45] I'll read for a female to male or female is there's two here. So the things we do because this is the stuff that like really makes it all worthwhile, but just from the first day I emailed Adam it ReNew Life RX. This endeavor has been better than I imagined. He really [00:43:00] cares about what you want and isn't trying to sell you what he wants to sell.

[00:43:04] The process is more personalized than any other medical treatment. I have had any questions are answered within a day or less as for the results my energy and mental Clarity are drastically improved. I just finished a push-up challenge for myself where I was able to do a hundred and one set and there's a personal best to my sex life.

[00:43:25] Is night and day my wife and I had been trying to have a second child for the last four years and within three months of being on this protocol. She's now pregnant with our second. I couldn't be happier with the results. And the reason why that was so important is that we are not in the business of you know, helping people get pregnant.

[00:43:45] That's not our thing. Right, but we also do protocol. Responsibly so that that can help and here's an individual who's been trying to get pregnant for four years and couldn't and I can only imagine the different paths that this guy's [00:44:00] gone down to try to figure that out and doing our program or responsive program with us.

[00:44:05] His wife's pregnant winter months, which is cool, which wasn't the goal right but--right their goal their personable now our goal for doing it. So I want to share that because it's just so, you know to personally that, you know, somebody heard about us. On your show found us. It's found some pretty cool life-changing success.

[00:44:24] This one of the one I want to share and this is a woman who's just 4501 and who had been to a primary care physician that says no an endocrinologist said no found some kind of what I would consider a low rank Clinic of somebody that's just trying to throw everything in the kitchen sink at this person to help them.

[00:44:45] Or at least just get them to do things. And so we had her come off everything because she's done so much junk that we look listen, but there's no way we can make it good. I thought processes in plan for you. If we don't if all this [00:45:00] crafts and playwright, so we her come off everything and I preface it so I can go into the kind of curve.

[00:45:06] I like reading these word-for-word, right? So she says I have to say the first month or so getting off my previous cocktail of meds as prescribed by another company so that we could start fresh was pretty awful. Right which makes sense and then says since working with you I'm taking less than half the meds.

[00:45:24] Previously line for the first time in years. I started a menstrual cycle again and the hot flashes that were so bad and keeping me up at night are gone. I'm so happy. Her name is Joanne just worried about and so I want to share that just because there's a lot of times we think we're getting the best care and treatment right?

[00:45:42] Like even me personally we're talking about this autoimmune thing. I have tons of resources with doctors and things like that. I don't share my personal stuff with the personal stuff. I'm doing. Maybe this other local doctors here and there guys, they just not getting the results. Right and it takes some individuals that really listen.

[00:46:00] [00:46:00] In follow-up and want to solve right instead of just trying to put everything into the nearest most convenient box. And if you just change it to the philosophy myself personally the clinic obviously into some of the experiences that people have in because of what I personally to go through we're going to be bolting on some other services to the ReNew Life are.

[00:46:23] To help because there's a lot of individuals out there. I just connect the recently retired NFL player who he had to retire because he had but really what really? Yeah. Yeah, he's got is it happens at goofy things just kind of shows up in your late 30s typically for men and it's usually some sort of inspection that triggers it.

[00:46:44] So maybe you don't maybe it doesn't happen. Maybe it does for me. That's it was because that's what I was. John Milius explaining this to the person people that are trying to put you're trying to put your situation in a box so fast like you put a [00:47:00] hot coal in their hands, right? And the reality is you have to say look look.

[00:47:04] This hot Coleman hold on to it until I know for sure what box or at least I have a plan for a couple boxes. We're going to try right over there just like this or maybe maybe it's because you're on a tortilla, you know, they just like, you know, you can walk. Well as you pointed out a single they go right back to the things that they.

[00:47:23] Have just implemented and say oh we just didn't Implement them right when it's knowing. Your testosterone levels could be ultra high and everything else could be in place and you still feel terrible because those are not the reasons that you feel terrible in the first place and see that's the problem nowadays.

[00:47:42] More and more people. I know a guy who's a personal trainer who hooked up with a doctor and he's telling his women clients that he can he can do that hormone replacement therapy today. It's like all of a sudden. What happens when you're that person where all you have is a hammer is everybody's a [00:48:00] nail and some people walk up to you and they're not a nail.

[00:48:02] They're a piece of bread and like a hammer doesn't do anything good for a piece of bread. So, you know, you got to be careful today. You have to know that your physician is not a fast-food. You all hamburgers and fries hamburgers and Fries. That's all we do is hamburgers and fries if her and Burgers and Fries, don't help you you you're not our patient.

[00:48:24] You're just going to go away because we only want people that hamburgers and Fries works for and that's not where you want to be with your with your choices that you want to be with people who are open-minded a who are still doing research with still learning who is still finding answers. That's what ReNew Life RX is all about.

[00:48:42] I have to take a break. We're going to come back this more to talk about this. There's more to talk about this. We're not done stay tuned. We'll be right back. Welcome back.  You're talking about.  An auto immunity called human leukocyte antigen be 27 or H La [00:49:00] B27 for short which is what's most Physicians talk about it the blood test that you can find out rheumatologist test for this quite often when people do have ankylosing spondylitis.

[00:49:13] And it if you read the literature they say there is no cure for Ankylosing Spondylitis or any of the disorders associated with HLA B27. And keep this in mind 98% of people who test positive for HLA B27 a white and I would bet that the two percent of African-Americans that test positive to it.

[00:49:39] Probably have some white blood in their background. This is a disease of the. And it is definitely autoimmunity. We know all autoimmunity has a digestive I mean a dietary but also a potential digestion digestive component leaky gut letting certain foods into the [00:50:00] bloodstream and the immune system sees those icy because HLA B27 is actually a protein that occupies a space on every white blood cell, but it's only called into action when.

[00:50:14] A particular condition occurs and the immune system feels that has to eradicate it my bet is that since it attacks mostly chondrocytes bone and and Joints which is synovial fluid and chondrocytes that whatever it is that's getting into your bloodstream from the food that you've eaten that didn't stay in your digestive tract, but got into your bloodstream looks very much like the chondrocytes a same thing as rheumatoid arthritis.

[00:50:41] This is very very similar conditions. Sighs but the reality is it's worse than rheumatoid arthritis because you can live with rheumatoid arthritis for a long time and terrible pain but fusing of the spine is a game changer when your spine is fusing together. You're not going to live very long. It's bottom line [00:51:00] and that's what concerned me my through a secure area because of the stiffness.

[00:51:04] Yes, and that's where had the MRIs we had the neck the neck surgery and it makes me think like. My going to have to get something done there. Is that something that we can we reverse this day, we take this back the other way all the things all the things that they say they say, you know, the so the drugs all biologics that they tell you to take.

[00:51:21] These are immune modulating drugs like you Mara and end alike. Then they'd say stretching heat therapy cold therapy acupuncture massage movement exercise that that's all they give that no one talks about vitamin C. Now keep an ugly old that but the Humira right right the vitamin C's. Only thing and I have no peptide hormones.

[00:51:42] There is a peptide there is a diff there is a peptide but there is a peptide and I want to talk about it now because no one talks about this peptide except me on this show. Okay? Okay one. No no LL 3 7.  LL 3 7 LL 3 7 is a I'm going to try to pronounce this. It's a Catholics [00:52:00] set it in. It is the body's own antimicrobial antifungal.

[00:52:05] You have plenty of it when you're young you have less of it when you're older. There are some really great studies on rheumatoid arthritis and ll3 7 showing its complete reversal of joint damage. So I want to talk about our three seven just for a second because LL 3 7 has changed my life recently.

[00:52:25] I probably suffered from small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. I've talked about on the show before I could not eat anything with fiber in it, especially soluble fiber and I couldn't eat bread. At all and if I ate those things my stomach literally blew up in minutes after eating them minutes like not not later on that evening and it was uncomfortable.

[00:52:51] There were nights where I ate the wrong foods and I literally would say to Lisa my stomach feels like it's going to blow up. I have to go downstairs. I can't I can't sleep. I have to go [00:53:00] downstairs and just sit and wait for this to pass it would pass eventually as digestive motility took place. So in preparation of doing my show on LL 3 7 I got a couple vials.

[00:53:11] Look, the only legit peptide company out there. If you're not getting it from a pharmacy specifically is is peptide Sciences.com there in California. They make all their own peptides as a result of that. They have the largest variety of peptides of anybody you'll ever find because they're not focused on the Bro Science peptides that are coming from China.

[00:53:30] They have things like thymosin alpha 1 which will actually make a virus go away in a day. I've had people tell me that they took Thomas enough for one and made there. They're shingles. Go away in 2 days instead of three weeks. That's one that was recommended from some of my guys now that we're on this hunt but here's the one that you need that one.

[00:53:50] Yeah the teeth the right the time is an alpha one and it works but here's the one that you want to use for this particular condition because this particular peptide [00:54:00] has the most value in autoimmunity. It's LL 3 7. When I used to eat fiber or or or bread or anything like that, my stomach would blow up the next day my chest would be already.

[00:54:14] Now keep in mind that's a sign of an tiem Utah autoimmunity when your skin starts changing color from food that you're eating and it's red and inflamed that's autoimmunity. That is that's one of the things since I've started. I took LL three seven, four four two weeks on I took off for a few weeks when I while I was still taking.

[00:54:35] Like only the third or fourth day after I took it I was in I told this story before some of my audience probably got to say that we know your cousin Rosemary's 75th birthday in Atlantic City. And we went to an Italian restaurant and I just wanted to have some bread and butter and I had the bread and butter and I thought okay any minute now, I'm going to be so full feeling I won't be able to eat and it didn't happen.

[00:54:58] I ate more bread. I ate like a [00:55:00] basket of bread that night. I said to Lisa. I think this LL 3/7 is real. She said why is it because I just ate all that bread and I'm not bloated. You know, I had to give up my favorite Quest cookies because of I ate a quest cookie five minutes later. I. The Jiffy Pop Popcorn cooker, my stomach was bloated and distended and gassy and I was belching it was disgusting.

[00:55:24] I can eat three Quest cookies in a day. I don't get that anymore now LL 3/7 is real. If you have any type of something you have to take daily or as you tell okay, so you take a hundred you take a hundred micrograms once a day you can take it for up. Six weeks you don't have to take it that long. I have had great success taking it with just a couple weeks and then taking a few weeks off and then taking it for a couple weeks.

[00:55:51] That's what I did with it. But the reality is that LL 3 7 [00:56:00] maybe the greatest peptide today because 80% of our population is suffering from some sort of autoimmunity. In fact, I just dawned on me that I'm going to email Rob wolf after Today's Show because Rob suffers from horrible autoimmunity and that's how he became interested in.

[00:56:19] Dr. Loren cordain as work when he was a student of his on the Paleo diet.  Rob ever have Rob if Rob eats a pizza, he he he can't he can't do anything next. And so I'm telling you that ll3 7 may be very valuable because here's what it does. It actually destroys both gram-negative gram-positive.

[00:56:44] Anaerobic and aerobic bacteria that are our I don't want to say pathogenic but they are the harmful ones the ones you don't want. And it's a smart bomb basically for that types of it also in destroys [00:57:00] funguses. So, you know, if you are somebody who has like toenail fungus if you're somebody who has chronically get jock itch or athlete's foot you you have fungal overloading your body.

[00:57:12] That's what that is. This is the peptide for you if you have rheumatoid arthritis, if you have Auto if you've been told you have an autoimmune disorder, this is the peptide for you and you're not going to get it at any of these other peptide websites. Because they have no interest in that all they have interested in is you know, MK6 77 + GH R +6 little yeah.

[00:57:33] Yeah, but peptide Sciences. If you go there you'll see that they have like 200 different peptides will all these other guys carry 12 and they have LL 3 7 and this stuff is legit. It's very very real. So I'm betting that if you're a an HLA B27. Positive responder that while you're managing it with the vitamin C.

[00:57:57] You can eradicate it completely [00:58:00] the autoimmunity portion of it with LL 3 7 that's just my guess and you have a good friend who's a peptide Guru that we need to get on the show. You need to you need to laugh when you mention that LL 3 7 on I'm trying to find them look at more than what's up with this.

[00:58:15] Yeah. We need to we need to get him on the show for other reasons by talk to you about I bet he's going to say yeah, this stuff is amazing. Yes, my stomach my stomach is so much better today since I ran two rounds of it. It's just ridiculous. It's like it's like you're it's like you're situation where it could be nothing else.

[00:58:34] It had to be that because nothing else because I've suffered with this for like five years now.  And then just and now it's this to me. It's absolutely amazing. That's where the the one is recommended to TA one, which is that thigh diamond diamond diamond alpha 1 right right time. I'll go one.

[00:58:55] That's an antiviral. That's an antiviral is a very very powerful antiviral. And literally I've had [00:59:00] people tell me they've contacted me and said, you know, I've got a viral form of you know, whatever whatever you want to say, you know bronchitis far and I this guy who came on our show who. Really bad case of shingles on his face and in his mouth and it resolved so much fast.

[00:59:20] It's he said in three days. It was gone.  That's not so yeah time is an alpha 1 is an antiviral and what the research that's being done on LL 3 7 right now, they're actually looking at it to help people who have developed antibiotic resistance to certain. Issues and they're saying because this acts like an antibiotic but it's not anybody because it only kills the bad stuff.

[00:59:48] It doesn't kill the good stuff. They're saying wow. This could be the answer to antibiotic someday.

[00:59:57] See what people are see what people people [01:00:00] learn from this show are the Renoir. That's why I love that's why I'm honored to be part of it because you know, whether I'm bringing whether I'm certain the topic and able to learn myself, right if there's never been a show that we do or hopefully, I've helped somebody or learn something to eat something to somebody but also I learned so much from these shows and it's just a couple guys with a passion to help people having a conversation.

[01:00:25] And seeing what we need to figure out learn more of that we can share more of I want to I want to I'm going to we're going to use our last segment to talk about specifically about renewal Arc ReNew Life RX. There's one other component. I wanted to inject here to see what your thoughts are on this so vitamin C.

[01:00:45] Increases the development of collagen matrices if you take Vitamin C. I did a show last year the year before about using gelatin and small doses of Vitamin C to actually make tendons and ligaments stronger. The [01:01:00] research on it is very very profound. And we all know that vitamin C improve skin quality and women we know that vitamin C influences collagen production and the Assembly of collagen Scatman.

[01:01:14] All those products they all have vitamin C is right. So what do you think? So what do you think you think the do you think that what this particular HLA B27 is doing is degrading and eroding the collagen in the joints, which are obviously that's in order for your spine to fuse that that disk has to disappear.

[01:01:35] So do you think that that's why it's helping people you think it's or just the antioxidative value of the vitamin. I think it's maybe a little bit of both in what I started doing to is and I got away from it, but doing them in combination because is I started supplementing with more collagen right weird because I'm like, well, you know, the vitamin C is creating the environment.

[01:01:59] I [01:02:00] have the collagen supplement. Why don't I start using that to see if that's going to help because like I said, my achilles tendon every single day was Groundhog Day every day. I woke up. I too sometimes noon. I'm like shit. I got to I got to put my foot up right like similar situation. I got to I got to get off.

[01:02:18] I can't even sitting in a normal chair need to be off it and now every day I'm like man this is getting a little bit better because it wasn't healing and I know personally my body I'd like this freak healing thing about me especially being healthy and in my hormones are optimized like I said, My surgeon is like I want to start recommending my my patients talk to you for post-op stuff.

[01:02:42] He's like I've never seen one. He'll like you heal but this damn Achilles tendon won't every day. It's the same thing my knee every day is the same thing and that's what would the the frustrating part. And so I figure I need to start adding more collagen just it made sense to maybe help rebuild [01:03:00] that area because I think the inflammation is so bad.

[01:03:03] That was just destroying it. Right if it's tearing it apart. So now I have to go to the rebuild process at least eliminated the information side of the destruction, but I still have to have there still some Rehabilitation ask you go on there. And so I think that adding the collagen in with the vitamin C supplementing those more heavily that I did.

[01:03:24] It's going to help with the regrowth faster man. I agree. I want to take a last commercial break when we come back. I want to talk specifically about ReNew Life RX. Okay, I have some questions and I'm sure the audience will benefit from the stay tuned. We'll be right back with more with Adam Lamb.

[01:03:39] Welcome back to the ReNew Life RX show and as the.  name implies you can get all the best qualities of your life back as you age and. Adam Lamb does an amazing job working with clients to help them find answers. So, you know [01:04:00] to me and you.  the idea of being on HRT is like wow, you know, why doesn't everyone our age do this and I say our age, I mean you're much younger than me, but still a but we're in the Democrat.

[01:04:15] We're in the demographic. Yeah. What do you think it is? I mean why like if I told somebody. Hey, there's a thousand dollars in that shoe box over there. No joke go get it. It's yours. They walk over the Open The Shoe Box. They take $1,000. I think. Oh, wow. Thanks buddy. I needed this. They put in their pocket they walk away.

[01:04:33] No, no, no, you know hidden issues. No. No you no funny stuff. It's like you'd be like wow wouldn't everyone do that. Why don't you that is a great analogy and I'll tell you why. Is this the the you said is if I go? You know, I still felt phones itself. Now is that box and go get it. But if I told you that it's going to cost you $1000, but I can help open up the box.

[01:05:00] [01:05:00] It's going to bring you ten thousand or a hundred thousand. Some people are like, I don't know and sometimes it's theirs to answer your question a little bit that sometimes its price its some people. We don't do insurance and they're like, well, I have insurance. I like I know but your insurance isn't all you think it's cracked up to be.

[01:05:16] I promise if you run this test that blood work you're going to pay just as much as you pay with us without getting consultations. Your doctor doesn't know what they're doing and the insurance limits the speed in the treatment, right? Because if it doesn't fit in their box, Right covered it and so it's limiting care a lot of situations and so for us that sometimes folks even by wealthy folks.

[01:05:39] They're just like they don't understand that coming out of pocket. I had a woman just yesterday. She was just want to get a bottle of consciously curious her doctor literally said no, I won't run your blood sugar to another doctor. Well do the blood work, which is another doctor for doctor won't doesn't want to do it doesn't want to run.

[01:05:56] And in so she asked us and we said here's the [01:06:00] price and she's a calm and like it what point is $100. Not even a thought. It's some people I know aren't in that financial situation. I get it. That's where I grew up. But if you are in the financial situation in your health is important to you. Why would you let $100 or $200 get in the way of finding out something that could change your life and if you can afford it, you know, and I think.

[01:06:24] If somebody's like, you know, one of the questions it's going because you know, there's going to be some qualifying to get into our system now with us because we you know, we just want to make sure we're helping people that are really motivated about getting help and some of its going to be like.

[01:06:40] Understanding like how much you willing to spend for your health care, you know when you think of things how much money goes out of because you know, I have health insurance through my wife's career. I think of how much money we spend each month on Healthcare. You were paycheck with you. Don't see it.

[01:07:00] [01:06:59] Right like it goes. It doesn't fit doesn't get pulled out of your bank account. It just never makes it to your bank account. Right? So you have to use it in for the insurance and things like that. And there's a lot of people the cash part of the business it was. It happening for folks because there's a lot of especially the clients we work with.

[01:07:17] They don't want to have to deal with the doctor. They want to do with the time that a lot of times the bad experience of going to the office and sitting there and going there every week or every couple weeks to do stuff. Like we can send them out to do things on their time when it's convenient for them.

[01:07:31] We can set you know, how many calls that we have there at seven thirty eight thirty at night because that's what works for them. They're willing to pay a little bit more for that because and the fact that allows the. Yeah, I had a guy who just recently. His blood work is the best it's been in 10 years.

[01:07:48] He's 10 years older than he was when he first started a jerky his blood work not just was testosterone as we don't care about that. That's easy but his health his health is better ten years from now after working with us where year and it [01:08:00] was the previous ten years of his life and the only difference for him was that he might spend five hundred extra dollars a year.

[01:08:09] Because we don't go to insurance, right and I'm like at what point is that make more sense for somebody well and so when you look at how it looks look at Healthcare today, right? So many people are dying. Literally. I mean, I'm not saying this figurative. There's so many people today that a dying and there's so many people this year that are going to die because the only path to helping them with problems is the ones that their Healthcare company will allow.

[01:08:38] And we know we know we know that there's a lot of people out there that are doing stuff that you know, the FDA is mad about and they're saving their own lives and their health care companies aren't paying for it, but they're saving their own lives and and you know, like. It's shocking. I know positions that have left the country to practice what they practice and unfortunately, if you want to work with them, you got to get out of [01:09:00] plane go there well, and and you got to pay out of pocket, you know?

[01:09:03] Yeah doctor. Oh man. I'm going to forget his name. Now. It's the boy. I've mentioned his name over the years. I met him actually 13 years ago. When I first don't do it started doing this show and he was curing pancreatic cancer at UCLA. With something called dendrite therapy and hyperthermia therapy combined and I could see his face in my eyes in my head, but I can't think of his name right now and it'll come to me.

[01:09:33] But anyway, you know, he was he was out of UCLA. He was in the school of medicine. He was teaching in the school of medicine inside the oncology department. He stumbled upon some old research that showed. That this happened more than once where people were admitted to a hospital to address a tumor that they had in.

[01:09:57] The tumor was was a big tumor and [01:10:00] it had been you know, they identified it. They knew it was there they palpated It Bubba when they got to the hospital they dr. Robert Gorder when they got to the hospital they actually caught an infection. And they had wild uncontrollable fevers. And so naturally the surgery was postponed and they was they was sent home to get better and then they came back and reschedule the surgery.

[01:10:29] Let's say a few months later and they so they you know, go do a CT scan or whatever the the process was for that particular tumor to identify it and they were like, wait a minute the tumors gone. This is true story. You can validate this and. They started to recognize that high fevers were actually eradicating tumors.

[01:10:56] How could this be? So, dr. Robert gorter he found this research became interested [01:11:00] in a he started to actually infect people he found people who had pancreatic cancer because they tend to have the the lowest life expectancy and prognosis of all the cans like 99% of people have pancreatic head they die.

[01:11:18] They usually are you got three months at best or six? I was just gonna say they usually have months at best once it's diagnosed. And so he went to them. He said look you're going to die in three months, but I'd like to try something if you're willing to sign these display these waivers. And and so what did he do?

[01:11:33] He brought them into the hospital at UCLA. He infected them with a bacteria that they knew they could get rid of. But he allowed them to run high fevers. They kept watch of their Vital Signs. They didn't put them in, you know, they weren't going to kill him but they let them run these fevers for four or five days.

[01:11:55] They looked the tumors were either almost gone or gone completely. [01:12:00] So then he built he built basically once was the McDonald's warming lights. He built a tube so they can keep their head and brain out. And put the body in and raise their core body temperature by 2 3 4 degrees at a time and he started doing this then he found out that not all the tumors responded to the heat the same way.

[01:12:21] So then what he did was he drew blood from these people. And he he pulled all their dendrites out which is the dendrites are part of the immune system and he injected them directly into the tumor and then did the heat therapy and all the tumors went away. Well, when they found out what he was doing at the University there because now he was taught to treat people people will come in and he was treating him with this and you know doctors are supposed to have the ability to treat people the way they want believe it would descript discretion, right?

[01:12:56] Yes, the session and treatment but what if but that's why I'm good, [01:13:00] right the FDA couldn't come after him both. So what they did was the medical licensure board came after him, which is what they do. They discredit doctors. They take their licenses away and they stopped them even though he was saving lives.

[01:13:11] There's Adam these people lived for years and years after this happened. So what did he do? He was he was he went to Mexico for a little while. He practiced there but then. There was a problem in Mexico. So at the time that the cologne model Institute in Germany was the leader in Europe for treating cancer.

[01:13:34] So he figured you know, I think he's of German descent. He went to Germany. He started working at the cologne model Cancer Institute and he started to perfect this dendrite therapy and is hypothermia therapy and he's curing curing curing and he's cured so many cancers there that about. Five six years ago.

[01:13:54] They renamed the hospital to the gorter model [01:14:00] the Gordon out of the yeah, the Gorder model Cancer Institute because he's contributed so much to cancer research. Now the reason I tell this long convoluted story is if you had pancreatic cancer and you were told you had three months to live your insurance company would have never paid for.

[01:14:19] Dr. Robert go to the treaty. Never ever ever and and I've actually had people because I've told this story so many times on the show. I have a made a friend in Germany whose mother was dying, but he went she was already way too far. They couldn't help her but he you could fly to the go the the Gorder model or the cologne Gorder into the I think that they check but they put his name in it.

[01:14:42] You could go there right now and for about eight thousand dollars u.s. Out-of-pocket plus your hotel stay in airfares get treated by him, but. And the reason I tell you this story is because look if you are if your quiver is only filled with the options that your [01:15:00] healthcare provider will pay for you only have one or two arrows.

[01:15:04] That's all you have and you are not going to get better you're not because the standard of care for just about every disease today is not to cure the disease but to cover up the symptoms so you can think you're living a normal life, but the body is still being destroyed. You know, I had a meeting this morning with a really really renowned doctor.

[01:15:27] Functional medicine doctor and he said something we're talking about kind of the cash pay model things because the stem cell stuff. We're looking into IV drip and obviously the hormone replacement therapy. And one thing he said he was he said they'll pay for your scooter in your cane, but they. Pay to keep you out of it, right and I was like, right but we you know, it's kind of funny and I liked it but it hits home because you can think of there's so many people out there that could not in a wheelchair because we're talking on quality of life, and I said, you know the day that.

[01:15:59] I need someone [01:16:00] to help me out of the couch to help me under the toilet and then wipe my butt and get me off the toilet and put them back in the couch if my brains not like really sharp take me out back. Right and so I want to do everything I can to make sure that I can do all those things for as long as I can.

[01:16:15] But whatever it takes right in not everybody's in that same mindset and not everybody's in that team financial position, but it should be more of a priority. It's really sad and people don't get it at all. They think about is well. I don't want have to pay for this. Really. I mean he if you are hanging by your fingers from the top of the Empire State Building and somebody said I will lift you up and save your life, but you got to give me $50 would you go now just died.

[01:16:45] It's just crazy but 50 bucks. No it is it it it makes me and that's more like kind of that. Dell mode comes in where I'm like, I'm not selling them something they'll be like, how can I get [01:17:00] this person to how can I convince them and get them over whatever kind of hold over mentally holding a back so that they can get what is best for them.

[01:17:09] Right because I'm doing this because I believe. In help that it does and what it does for people even if it's simple stuff just getting your blood work done having some experts at review it they put together some feedback and then I talked to him about it in layman's terms. They understand maybe there's nothing going on, but they now they know yeah and at the end of the day, it's just it's just a matter of wanting to.

[01:17:33] Help solve problems and have a process that works really well and can go pretty fast for me. I love it. I love it renewed life are x.com. If you go there and you want to work with Adam call them reach out to them talk to him directly ask him questions about your personal needs and if you end up doing something with them mention that you heard.

[01:17:56] The about them here at supremum radio or use the code shr on the [01:18:00] website. If you end up signing up on the website and you'll save $200 on your blood work which can actually be very significant and get started. I have people messaging me. I have a good friend. I'm not going to mention his name but a lot of you know him on the show and he's been working with Adam and he said it's the first time he's Felt This Good in decades.

[01:18:24] So that's it. That's what it's all about. I Adam. Thanks so much for even you had that someone sent you a thank you card a person. And how did you see that Christmas time? Yeah, a guy said guy sent me an old-school. Thank you card and thanked me for the show and also for turning him a hunt to renew life are I forgot I snapped a picture of that and texted it to ya know that made my day.

[01:18:46] That was awesome. Who does that anymore takes the time to actually write out a card, you know today if you can't text. Or message it on Facebook, you know, you know, yeah, that was wonderful. That was wonderful. That's what I sent out to like the The Physician and partners. [01:19:00] I said, like look at we know we are doing something good when someone takes the time to write a handwritten note.

[01:19:05] Well, let me tell you let me tell you what let me tell you what I learned in radio.  13 years ago when I started doing the show at clear. If someone calls the station to complain or to praise something that was done on the show at represents 100 listeners if somebody takes the time to write a letter.

[01:19:29] To the show or to the station about something that was said it represents 1,000 listeners. So that's the impact of and I would say that was 13 years ago. I would say that ratio is even greater now because we have so many other fast expeditious ways to communicate we have PMS text messages Facebook messages Instagram messages, you know, I mean, we got like a so many platforms that we can just tap out a message.

[01:19:58] So for someone to go [01:20:00] online and complain right and or go online and In Praise, yeah for yeah. I mean, but those took the time to do that, right and those are equivalent to the phone calls, but today for someone to take the time to write something I'd say it's probably worth ten thousand listeners, not 1000 because nobody writes anymore.

[01:20:18] Nobody even has stationary. Do you have stationary? I don't even have stationary anymore. I don't know. I mean, I hate my handwriting my son like daily makes one of my handwriting. He's like that. Can you even read the stuff is down there unlike I type everything those are mine. I like the stone gets my notepad.

[01:20:33] They'll never know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's all in code. But so it's code like the Indians used to you. They go there. Yeah, I brother. Thanks a lot man. Talk to you in two weeks. Okay. Alright and I'll see you everybody Monday. We got some great shows next week. Hope you can tune in. I'm off tomorrow.

[01:20:51] I'll see you [01:21:00] then.

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