Chris Williams
Maybe you're not old enough yet where a nursing home is a potential destination, but I can assure you, you will be one day. Or maybe you have a loved one who's a possible candidate due to their advanced age.
The number one reason for being admitted to a nursing home is a fall. We also know people live longer when they're allowed to stay in their own home. And the truth is they want to stay in their own home with a level of independence. There are ways to ensure you won't need to make a nursing home your's or their final destination.
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[00:00:00] Welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. Do my eyes look puffy. I don't feel good today. I didn't sleep good last night and one bad night of sleep can do it all to you. I've talked about that on the show numerous times. So you're gonna have to bear with me if I rub my eyes a lot today.
[00:00:48] Anyway, it could be allergies. I don't know you may not be old enough to think this is important to you. In the mid-90s, I was in the alarm business and we [00:01:00] used to sell medical alert systems for people who are elderly and shut-ins in their homes, and they wanted to stay in their homes. They didn't want to go into nursing homes.
[00:01:08] And these devices were designed to alert someone if they fell because the number one reason I learned back then that someone was admitted to a nursing home is a fall and I weave. About this on the show, especially when it comes to women. I've said, you know what happens you're in your home your husband dies first.
[00:01:30] That's just the way it is. It's a man's world by the way. No, I don't think so. But anyway, the husband dies first and as a result of that, you know, you're living in your own home you fall a couple times the kids go. Mom, you can't live by yourself anymore you we have to go find a facility for you to Livin and and and your health declines once you go into one.
[00:01:53] Facilities I saw with my mother. I've seen him with other people's parents [00:02:00] most of these facilities. They just push you into the solarium and you stare out the window or you know, you're in a wheelchair or you need help getting two here and two there and you help the severely declines and and we all know this instinctively, you know, Elise and I have talked about it.
[00:02:16] Like we don't want to go into a nursing home someday because that's going to be it like a nursing home is God's waiting room you go there to die. So more and more people are trying to figure out how to avoid getting into a nursing home. You may be thinking. Well, I got 20 30 years for I think about that, but you may have a mom or dad or loved one that needs to consider this and so we're doing the show specifically because this is a reality of life.
[00:02:40] My guest today is Chris Williams. How you doing Chris uphold? I forgot I tell you I'm a little blurry head today. So I forgot to open your mic up. How you doing Chris? I'm great Carl. How are you? Wonderful. Let me just put you up a little bit here. So talk about who you are and how you ended up helping people who don't [00:03:00] want to end up in a nursing home and some who may be on their way to a nursing home and maybe you kind of extract them from the jaws of that situation.
[00:03:09] Yeah. Yeah, certainly. My name is Chris Williams up. I actually was an athlete I played football. Ball probably longer than the doctors would like you to and so I went into personal training. I went to school for dietetics and walked into a hospital room and watch a fellow, you know, he was his foot was rotting off and he took the dietitians exchange lists and threw it to the side didn't care.
[00:03:33] I didn't want to work with unmotivated people. So I started training so amid a one of my clients with the geriatric position and he pulled me aside and said Chris look I've got tons of page. That cannot physically get into a facility get into a gym you you have to go to their homes kid. Can you do that?
[00:03:52] And I said sure absolutely I'd love to his name was dr. Opened or con. So I started going into the homes in the very first client. I went [00:04:00] into listen, he was with me for four years and became a dear dear friend my youngest son and him were exactly 90 years apart to the day. They were both born on Christmas day will call.
[00:04:14] What had happened was he would stumble the Home Health nurses? They would see this they would send him to physical therapy. He would get the same sheet of paper when he left he would come home. It would sit on the on the table and it wouldn't go anywhere and then he would stumble three or four months later.
[00:04:28] And then he was right back in physical therapy and and most therapy most insurance allow $1,800 per calendar year for therapy well-balanced is something that you're not going to do twice a year. It's something you have to do 365 right? I mean really really. It's really very much like training, right?
[00:04:46] So if there's so many people out there who want to know I just want to go to Orangetheory once a week and I want to be fit and it's like no you can't do that. Even if they tell you you they told you you can it's not going to work. Yeah. Yeah. They're just trying to boost their sales [00:05:00] numbers is what they're.
[00:05:01] So what happened was this fella he fall he took a fall and you're talking about a guy that was 30 command on a battleship in the Pacific in World War Two. It was a simple fall. He fell he was trying to get off the toilet fell in between the toilet and the wall and he was stuck there for about an hour.
[00:05:17] So finally I show up right he had injured his shoulder. He'd broken his shoulder. I show up we get him situated car. Listen, he was gone within a year and a half and this broke my heart and of course there were a lot of things that. I named between but I was bound and determined to figure something out that we could do where people could could take a simple workbook and work through it take you about 20 or 30 minutes a day and work through it and improve their balance because look balance is.
[00:05:50] So when you say balance is independent you mean independent of physical strength because balances in here right, it's the gyro in your brain, right? [00:06:00] That's exactly right and the way we're designed the older we get the synapses in our brains get further apart. That's why you don't see 40 year old gym.
[00:06:08] Right because as we get older our balance is a natural part of the aging process poor balance it will occur. So what you're trying to do, what we're doing is we're reestablishing the nervous system. Right and we're reestablishing the neuromuscular connections. We want to make sure that we put you in proprioceptive environments when you stand on one foot that old foot goes to shake.
[00:06:29] What's happening is you're getting signals? You're receiving signals from your foot to your brain. Your brain is interpreting ghosts in signals and sending data back. So the better you get at that the more balanced you're going to have and then when you're balanced you are less risk of falling. And that means you're going to stay in your home longer instead of going to that waiting waiting room.
[00:06:51] So so wait a minute so we know that neuroplasticity remains effective throughout our lives. It was thought that when we were young neuroplasticity [00:07:00] occurred and as we got older it kind of went away and we know that's just not true any longer. So what you're saying is that with practice people can maintain their balance.
[00:07:13] That's right. So what happens now? You have to continually challenge yourself, you know, you're not going to stand on one foot and then consistently see results. You've got to continually put yourself in multiple proprioceptive environments and that's just a big fancy word for stable. But unstable for some folks standing in a split stance One Foot In Front of the other is quite the challenge for others.
[00:07:37] It's not so like I think so. Don't wait a minute. Wait what I want to do. There's some nuances here. I want to focus on so if somebody has a problem with their gate, Walking then that would be the issue. It's the transition of taking weight off of one foot and putting it on to the other so that would be where you would work with them then but yeah, but you have to do you video them so that you can go [00:08:00] back and look at the video and go.
[00:08:01] Oh, I see what your problem is. You're a hundred percent, right, but better than that when I'm in home and I'm with a patient even with video you put them in these positions and then you stopped them. Break each movement. So you're talking about gate. We're in a split stance just have them shift weight to the front foot and you only go as far as they can feel comfortable.
[00:08:24] And what you do is you call this position a position of confidence because confidence is one of those nuances is just as important to balance as leg strength and isn't it interesting. I read a study about three years ago that showed that cardiac patients that did Regular cardiovascular training treadmill work they walk for half hour.
[00:08:45] Day developed greater confidence in their body and had less angst and anxiety related to their heart condition. Then those who just sat around all day long. So what you're [00:09:00] saying is this is one of those things that repetition is what works best because it gives them the confidence that yeah. I can I can leave one foot and hit the other foot without worrying about my balance.
[00:09:13] And so now another thing just. Mr. Mine because I talked at the beginning of the show. I had one of the worst night's sleep. I've had in years last night. I know why because I had a my last meal. I had a very very high carbohydrate load and I just don't sleep. Well when I have high carbs late in the evening and and I could tell you in the shower this morning when I close my eyes to wash my hair as I close my eyes.
[00:09:37] I felt that little bit of like, oh, I gotta I gotta focus on staying balanced. How much of this. Do you think has to do with as we age our sleep really starts to suck in these people that you work with? It factors in considerably because what happens is with lack of sleep. It's lack of focus and [00:10:00] balance is as you age balance is a conscious effort.
[00:10:04] It takes consistent and conscious. So basically you take a person who is at that threshold where they're having trouble getting out of a chair. That's the number one thing right? Most people fall getting off of a seated position. Isn't that correct? Hey, listen, let me tell you something. One of the first things I do is I watch somebody stand up out of a chair leg strength is a life indicator, right?
[00:10:30] What's the first thing when you take your dog outside, what's the first thing that an animal that dog is going to do it goes to the bathroom, right? Okay. So you stop moving now, you're introducing a whole host of issues, right? So, so let me tell you you've got Legs drink just for conversation safe leg strength cardiovascular.
[00:10:48] Your VO2 max is a second life indicator and the third life. Haters your ability to build lean muscle tissue, of course that decreases as we age. I don't want to get into the prefer to the ladder to let's talk about leg straight. [00:11:00] You can make an argument that lack of leg strength could lead to cardiovascular disease stroke because you can't now you can't walk you can't put you can't do the consistent work that it takes to maintain cardiovascular conditioning your all over Carl.
[00:11:15] You got it. So. What do you do with elderly people where leg strength is an issue? I have to believe you have to start where they're like, I've talked on the show over the years and said if all you can do is stand during the commercials of a TV show start there. Is that what you do with them? You start them with the easiest thing first.
[00:11:37] Yeah, absolutely and you need data. So so when they stand you need to time it, okay, and don't give the 1001 1002 I mean. We're talking about a serious issue now right lack of lack of Mobility people stop going out and visiting with their friends and this leads to depression. So let's get data.
[00:11:57] Let's have them stand if the commercial breaks a [00:12:00] minute-and-a-half 90 seconds, then let's time that how long can you stand and and let's do that five or six times a day and let's see if we can increase that and it. Okay, so when you get somebody and we're going to get into the book and we're going to tell people how they can get it too because you can buy this book even if you're not at that stage yet, but your mom or dad are because you can eat a lot of people I have to believe a lot of people reach out to you who are caretakers and saying look, you know it.
[00:12:30] My mom is getting worse. My dad is getting worse. And so I need help but when you talk about leg. Does resist the training come into play here and even just bodyweight? Like do you have people do bodyweight squats? That's all it is. There's only two non-weight bearing or non-load bearing exercises that exists that swimming and bicycling and look.
[00:12:53] I'm not opposed to those. I think those are great. But if you want to build your leg strength, you have to put them under a load and [00:13:00] body weight is a great start to that. You know, if you're out playing pickleball in tennis and golf then it might be a little more than that and there's things we can do to tweak exercises to make your body weight a challenge, but body weight absolutely and I would imagine that moving the body through space.
[00:13:20] Also creates agility and balance as opposed to putting him in a leg press machine, right and now you're talking about that neuromuscular efficiency. That is the prize when it comes to balance we want is there is there anything else that comes into play? Like do you ever have people transition from?
[00:13:40] Okay, you've got body weight squats down. You're a champ. I mean you're doing a hundred fifty a day. No problem. Now start doing them with your eyes closed is. Relationship in that gyro with our eyes closed versus eyes open because doesn't proprioception takeover when your eyes are closed, right?
[00:13:58] Well your vestibular [00:14:00] system your eyes and ears are to balance as smell is to take. So what happens is think about a pilot when he's flying a plane during the day and I've heard from I've used this analogy for years and I never and you get a pilot in every lecture that comes up tells you that's a terrible analogy, but for 99% of us, it works.
[00:14:18] Listen fly the plane during the day, you can see out the windows. You still have your instruments, right? Well, let's say it's in the middle of the night with a dense fall. The only thing you have now are your instruments to fly This Plane. Guess what When You Close Your Eyes the only thing you have is the neural.
[00:14:34] Cooler efficiency that you have created through repetition practice. And so do you work with people on eyes closed training like just maybe just standing because I got to believe when you take somebody who's starting to deteriorate that just telling them. Hey just stand there. I just want you to close your eyes as soon as they close their eyes.
[00:14:56] They probably Panic alert because they feel unstable immediately, right? I [00:15:00] had a guy just just last week right everything we started. Doing look in a new class like getting a new car, right? So so I we're checking him out and everything. We're doing was he saying that's easy. That's easy. That's easy.
[00:15:12] That's no problem. I said, okay. Listen, this is what I want you to do, but I want you to put your feet together and I want you to close your eyes call. It look like a tree in Irma down here. I mean, he was floating back and forth. Okay, so Kathy Nagel says she wants to buy the book where do people go to buy the book and then we'll take a break after that.
[00:15:35] Sure. You can go to my website. It's my balance University.com. And the book is also available on Amazon. It's called balance University is the name of the book balance University. And now you told me that this is a substantial binder of information and you made it a binder specifically. That people here, let me get that down so you can show it people can actually take a page [00:16:00] out on.
[00:16:00] Oh, no, it's not that kind of binder. Okay? Okay. I'm missing this. Yeah, but yeah, that's nice. So this is a lot of information. And as you pointed out most people when they go home from a fall, they're just giving a little sheet of paper that tells them what to avoid not how to become better at standing and walking.
[00:16:19] Right, and that was that was the beginning of my frustration is because this sheet of paper was just a set of exercises in look that sheet of paper is valid. I'm not saying that it's worth less. But what I'm saying is is that I can give you 10 sheets of paper and we can take you through it and you and there's places to Mark the data that we're looking for.
[00:16:40] I don't want someone just to look at you and say oh you're getting better. I want you to be able to go. Yeah. Look at my numbers I've done for. Through 10 weeks and here's how my numbers have improved through week one through week 10. Okay. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to take one quick commercial break and when we come back, we're going to pick it up on the other side.
[00:16:58] If you have questions for [00:17:00] Chris post them here on Facebook during this Facebook live and will get them answered stay tuned. We'll be right back. Welcome back. Yeah, I'll tell you one bad night sleep and you feel I had the worst night sleep. I've had it since I can remember not only did I. Pick up like numerous times all night long, but when I finally did fall asleep.
[00:17:21] I had nothing but crazy crazy dreams and I'll tell you I my brain feels old today and I know what that feels like because normally I feel a lot better than this and it's a horrible situation and I noticed that my balance definitely is affected. I'm not at risk of falling but I'm wearing a cam boot right now because I just had foot surgery and I can't put my foot down.
[00:17:44] I can only balance on the heel of. Foot and so I'm walking on one foot and the heel of the other foot and it's much more difficult than it normally is because it's like I got to think about it all of a sudden today because I had this horrible night sleep. It's [00:18:00] amazing. So talk about some of your success stories talk about some people that have used your book and and actually either.
[00:18:09] Got themselves out of having to go into a nursing home or or family member because I know you've worked with a lot of people over the years. Yeah. Yeah. I tell you Carl my favorite story. I went into work with the lady and coincidentally her daughter had called me. She she lives in another state 1,500 miles away.
[00:18:30] So my website and and connected myself and her mother. And so she lives in an independent living facility. And so I went in no kidding. She answers the door. And the first thing she says to me is all I want to do is dance and I'm thinking I'm thinking well, hey, you know, I can dance a little bit my mom taught me how to two-step.
[00:18:53] But but really what she wanted to do was during the holidays [00:19:00] particularly Christmas in this instance, is that the folks have a little party. Hey get down there and and they'll have a little dance with the with the music and the old Bing Crosby's as songs and things like that. So Carl, we worked for about four months and I have her video on my website actually.
[00:19:18] And by the time it was all said and done she really struggled standing with our feet close together and closing her eyes. She really struggle standing on top of a foam pad. I use all kinds of different devices. You trick to creat a gently unstable. Fish right because it will give you can't purchase completely the ground then now balance has to take effect.
[00:19:42] That's right and just side note is I made her do this without her shoes on we want to take her shoes off and that's that's another another topic, but she gets on the pad listen at the end of four months. She's able to stand on the pad both be unassisted step off to the. [00:20:00] That's what the left foot come back on and then also so what you're doing is you're introducing different surfaces to it now at the same time and momentum because you're stepping.
[00:20:11] Yeah. Yeah. So so there is someone who's listening to the show right now watching it on Facebook or YouTube if they're watching it later in the week and they have a relative or they themselves need a walker at this point in time. Can you actually take. Who's already been using a walker for the past few years and get them to be able to ambulate without a walker again?
[00:20:38] I'm a hopeless optimistic. Yeah, I think I can fix everyone. It really depends on how much effort that you can get out of the individual. How much will you tell how much work they're willing to do in other? A hundred percent I can come in twice a week, you know, and that's less than 0.1% of the total time.
[00:20:59] There's [00:21:00] 10,080 minutes in a week. I'm asking for a hundred twenty of those, you know, so so what are you saying? Are you saying that it would dedication of a two hours a week people can actually start to change their ability to ambulate. You can start to scratch. The surface balance is something you've got to do every day though, you know, I like to use that as an example because if you can give me point one percent of the time then I can probably squeeze out a little more because then you're going to start to see results and you're going to get stronger.
[00:21:30] You're going to fill it first then start to get stronger. You're going to get excited about it. And that's what I want. I want you to get excited about the possibility of getting. Because that's when I can we can really get down that road. So so the answer to your question calls long and short it's dependent upon how hard the individual wants to work.
[00:21:50] But if they're willing to work, excuse me. I was holding that back if they're willing to work every day, you know, [00:22:00] like I said before they're watching their favorite TV show and all you're saying to them is every time the commercial comes on. I want you to stand up. And and watch the commercials and you can sit back down again.
[00:22:11] They are both doing. A bodyweight Squat and they are standing and then then on top of that they start doing the exercises that you lay out. Let's say an hour a day, then they can Jen so really what you're talking about here is the same thing we talked about in the fitness community and the weightlifting community and you know, if you want a 500-pound bench press you got to meet you man.
[00:22:37] Started a bucket of quarter and you and me have to work for five years to get to that but the reality is if that's your goal. If your goal is to dance again, if your goal is to take your son hunting, you know, if your goal is to just be able to walk through the mall with friends without a walker.
[00:22:55] You can do it you if you're willing to do the work the brain [00:23:00] will rewire. The muscles will reactivate your not lost in other words. That's the you're really talking about Hope here, right? That's exactly right and you got to be careful with that, you know, you want to meet optimism and expectations with you know, realistic goal.
[00:23:17] Right? Right. And so but I will tell you this I had an individual walk. I would say a hundred feet. Down in back the hallway without his walker two days ago and left it in the room. How long was it has it been since he had used? How long has he been using a walker years? And how long have you been working with him too much.
[00:23:41] That's pretty remarkable. And I don't want to take all that credit. He works hard. He does he works hard. It's just a matter of trying to teach someone the right exercises in the right pattern at the right time and get them confident confidence such an important key in all of this. Have you ever worked [00:24:00] with somebody who had suffered a stroke?
[00:24:02] Yes talk about that. I had an individual that that had become had lost the use of their left side of their body. No use of the left arm or the left leg. And so it was really a tough situation because this individual wanted to get up and be able to be as independent as possible. They felt like a burden they felt like a burden on their spouse Who is the.
[00:24:29] The main caregiver and also the children who were Miles and Miles Away who were constantly calling and checking in and so in this particular instance we use the cane and so we had to modify the heck out of this gate and out of this stance because all we could get from from one couch to another safely.
[00:24:54] But she worked her tail off as well and it was consistent to she had a nurse. Working with her every [00:25:00] day. Okay. And so how long ago did you work with this person a year ago. Do you know where her progress is today? My knee chance. Yeah. Yeah, she's doing well. I think her motivation has slacked because you know, we use the old Theory everybody does great in physical therapy because everyone goes to physical therapy sessions right?
[00:25:21] It's when your when your trainer leads but I knew no I do know that she did go out to eat with. Her friend something. She hasn't done and years. She has consistently going to lunch with some friends at least once a week. And that's because of the confidence that she has but also I have to believe that when people lose the ability to manage their balance walk confidently the there's a certain level of embarrassment for lack of better terms where they just don't even want to go out anymore because they.
[00:25:58] My sister had Parkinson's [00:26:00] disease and she really didn't she was diagnosed misdiagnosed with it, but they treated her for Parkinson's Disease and when she could when she got to the point where she couldn't walk. She never wanted to go out anymore. We could have put her in a wheelchair, but she didn't want to because she felt like she felt not that people would make fun of her but people would look at her and go.
[00:26:18] Oh look at that poor girl, like she didn't want the pity and once they got to that point that it's hard for them to move past it more so because they. Some level of embarrassment like I can't do this anymore. How about this? I got a call from a fella they were at a restaurant he and his wife were with several couples.
[00:26:40] They were at a restaurant. He was in the way in the path of a waiter bring in a load of food, right a tray of fruit a food. He backed out. He went to just take a step back to move out of the way. So this waiter could get through with this tray of food and he fell down. Yeah. The phone call I get [00:27:00] is is Chris.
[00:27:00] I'm embarrassed. I'm not going to go back to that restaurant. And this is not an unusual situation. This is what we're trying to prevent because when people stop moving and they stop going out and socializing depression takes over and now we're in a downhill spiral. Yeah, you lose hope and you really if you lose you lose the the the the the energy to live your own life at that point in time.
[00:27:25] You become sad and depressed. Have you ever seen? The movie The Holiday. no with Cameron Diaz and Kate Winslet. There's only that there's a there's a character in it and I can't think of his name. He's passed away since he's an old actor, but he played a character named author and he had the he had a walk.
[00:27:50] He had to do everything with Walker and he had to go accept an award a Lifetime Achievement Award and his big goal was to be able to walk down the aisle to the [00:28:00] stage and up the stairs on his own accord and he did it, you know, but they he had a work and it's like a tangential story on the side of the movie like he's going to he's walking more he's going to the pool and working in the pool and so on and he built up his leg.
[00:28:19] Back then his ability to ambulate so that he could have that was his goal to be able to walk up in front of all those people on his own because he was embarrassed. He never wanted to accept the ward he they wanted to give him the award for like years. He never wanted accepted because he didn't want to go out in public with the walk.
[00:28:36] Yeah, and have all his colleagues see him. They don't owe the he used to be such a successful great guy. And that's sad that's sad when people feel embarrassed about this because they can get help but they got to get out there. They have bright want to get out there. Right and I see that all the time plug your website and and the book again where people can.
[00:28:59] The name [00:29:00] of my book is balance University. You can find it at my website. It's my balance University.com. You can also buy it on Amazon. And how much is the book the book is $30. That's cheap. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, the book is $30, but better than that on my website, we have a VIP members area. It's $10 a month and behind that VIP members area.
[00:29:27] There's a video for. Every exercise inside this book. Wow. Listen II didn't reinvent the wheel here. You know, that's not what I'm trying to do when my friend fell and and passed away. I thought that was the most it was frustrating because there was a lot of things that could have been done that weren't because resources weren't there right?
[00:29:47] And well I set out on a mission to help people and if you look at the statistics on balance, we're somewhere around 20 to 30 million people 65 and older right now. By 2050 that number is going to be over [00:30:00] 60 million. It's really sad really really sad because something can be done about it. Let's take a quick commercial break.
[00:30:07] We'll be right back with more of Chris. If you have any questions, please post them here on Facebook live. We will be right back. Welcome back. We're talking with Chris Williams. He is the author of balance University and his website is balanced University.com. Correct? My balance University.com my balance.
[00:30:27] She's not calm and you can go there and you know, this is you know, I've talked on the show numerous times over the years about the threat that Healthcare is to the sovereignty of the United States of America and probably a lot of countries to you know, we hear about this stuff in the news all day long about the wall and and I'm not getting political here and about terrorism.
[00:30:55] At about global warming and we hear what we hear all [00:31:00] this stuff. Right, but meanwhile the crushing load of our elderly on one end and young children on the Spectrum on the other end. Is actually creating. A potential for financial collapse of this country. I mean if if this if if we if only 50% of the population is capable of being productive that means the other 50% of the population is on our backs while we're trying to be productive and the answer isn't to throw money at it.
[00:31:36] The answer is not health care for all I mean that that's just silly right if people keep running out in the street. Get hit by cars. You don't say hey, we're going to make more body bags. That's how we solve the problem though. You get people to stop running out in the street. Okay, and we have a chance here of taking people who could be vital for another [00:32:00] decade of their lives and and live in their own home.
[00:32:04] And choose to be as autonomous and independent as they want to be but it's going to take a little I hate to say it. It's a four-letter word. It's called work. It's called work, you know more and more people don't want to put in the work to get what they want. They just want to sit back and wait for someone to make a pill or something else that solves their problems and and nothing nothing solves the problem like doing the work whether it's to change.
[00:32:33] Your physique build muscle or learn to be more stable on your own aging legs, but the beauty is. most people don't want to do the work because they feel like it's going to be for nothing and what Chris is telling you is it's not for nothing. You can regain your ability to walk on your own to climb your stairs in your house.
[00:32:55] I mean so many people I have friends. I'm 60 years old. And as soon as I get [00:33:00] this boot off first thing I'm going to start doing is every morning. Going for an hour and slowly bring my leg strength back till I can start leg pressing and squatting again. So I have really big lofty goals. Meanwhile, I have friends that are my age and they're talking about selling their homes because they have stairs.
[00:33:19] Well what you know, so my wife and I are thinking of selling the house because you know, we got stairs someday when I had a guy actually look at me one day he builds homes. He says well look at you. You got that boot on, you know, and I said to the boots Gonna Come. I'm not looking to move into a single story house.
[00:33:36] I'm look I was in fact, I look forward to the challenge of climbing my stairs every single day. So we have a population out there that isn't willing to put in the work and a lot of them don't want to put in the work because they don't think it's going to make a difference. But Chris is telling you hope is valid in this situation.
[00:33:53] You can rewire your brain. You can make your muscles stronger. You can regain your Independence, right? [00:34:00] That's right. Yeah, you know to you too. Point when we're talking about confidence, right and a lot of people don't want to start because they don't want to fail they don't want to go through another failure.
[00:34:13] I'm a balance is already bad. I'm already facing going into a home or or assisted living facility and I don't need to feel worse. So this is why the position of covenants we call it the poc in the program in the balance University program. The POC is so important because I am going to guarantee you.
[00:34:32] And I can find a place that introduces a bit of proprioception big fancy word for stable. But unstable where you're going to be 95 to a hundred percent certain you're not going to fall when we discover that that's going to start to build your confidence and see the interesting thing about this is this is not just a phenomenon that elderly people suffer from I have friends in the [00:35:00] gym.
[00:35:01] That have been training for a decade and every month. They change what they all they go from this program to that program. They go from that program to this program. There's no consistency. And the reason is because a no one wants to waste time doing something that's not going to work and be they don't give anything long enough chance to work.
[00:35:19] So this is not just a phenomenon of elderly people who saying look this isn't going to work. I'm not even going to try. This is a human phenomenon. This is what Youmans do. If you think you're going in the wrong direction you immediately want to try a different direction when if you would have went three more blocks you go.
[00:35:35] Oh I was going in the right direction. Yeah, it's a human one common on you know, what's so great about listen. I've been in this Fitness industry for 17 years. I'm a dinosaur in this thing. You know, I remember my dad looking at me when I was 23 years old thinking how long is this phase going to last phase?
[00:35:53] I know right? I know. So he kind of caught on when I was in the gym all day with you know, get guess who [00:36:00] else is in the gym wearing yoga pants, right? So I mineral working and you know, we did somebody build but look here's what the the shift we can see it every day those folks that are 60s 70s.
[00:36:14] They went to work their job was to put food on the table and keep the family's table and and nothing has changed with that. It's become harder for the younger generation, but in. Business World, it wasn't taken as a priority. Then you started to see a few people trickle in those that were playing Recreational Sports and softball and things like that.
[00:36:34] But what you see now are the current Generations that have taken Fitness and turned it into a sport and now things are going to get really exciting crawl into your point. You're absolutely 100% Correct about this becoming a financial burden on our. It is so one other thing just dawned on me. We have a lot of people who watch and we'll watch the Facebook and the video but also listen to the [00:37:00] podcast who are personal trainers, how can they work with you to help their patients their clients?
[00:37:05] Well, what yeah go to my website right now. We're trying to build this network. The book guy just self-published a book. It just came out in July. And so we've signed licensees up in Maryland. We've got a licensee out in Texas. And so if you want to join the balance University program, there's a link on my website that will take you to a page you fill that out.
[00:37:28] And then what we can do is we will put you through a balanced University certification program where you can collect continuing education credits from the National Academy of sports medicine American Council on exercise. Oh, that is so cool because they have to get CEUs. Here, that's right. That's right.
[00:37:46] Yeah, I didn't want these guys to take this stuff just to do this. Let's let's get some benefit out of this. Let's make this a duel a duel pronged attack here. And then what we'll do is then you'll become a licensee and you'll purchase books for me [00:38:00] and then you can start teaching the course at a facility.
[00:38:03] That's huge. So how do I personal trainers who want to become certified in your program and carry it forth? How do they charge their clients? I mean, I'm sure they know how to charge their recreational trainees. But how do they charge these clients? So if you're doing 101 that leave that to the discretion of the trainer every Market is different wherever you go now, if you're wanting to run a group fitness class what we have done and what the licensees have done is we charge $99 for the 10-week course, you take it once a week you meet for one hour and we.
[00:38:43] After class at 12. nice, then you can give everybody plenty of attention. I love it. I love it. Yeah, I mean when you're dealing with balance, you know, you don't want to have a class of 25 people in their standing in a split stance and you know, you've got five or six guys. [00:39:00] Oh, yeah. Somebody's going to hit the ground somebody's right.
[00:39:03] Yeah, and that's not what I'm about to do. This is about helping people stay independent and and going out and playing frisbee with their granddaughter or their grandson or going upstairs. They can stay in their homes for another decade. So this is really great. Does someone have to have a certified personal trainer accreditation in order to do what you're doing or do you is that a prerequisite?
[00:39:27] Okay can a guy who says man. I want to start doing this with elderly people and I'm not a personal trainer. Can he be certified in your program and start doing this? As we build the parameters for the program call will go through some of that as of now. We have haven't determined the parameters. I would like the individual to be a personal trainer to be certified.
[00:39:52] However, I'll take it on a case-by-case basis, you know for someone that's been working out for 10 years and they have some knowledge [00:40:00] then let's talk and we'll work it out. But like I said, this is brand-new and we're trying to get the. Archer set but I wouldn't be opposed to it. So, you know who you should contact truthfully you should contact these these organizations that sell the pers units the personal emergency response system the fallen and I can't get up people.
[00:40:20] Oh, yeah, you should reach out to them. That's a great idea. They could sell this book to their clients because they already know that they have a problem with falling. So that's that's a huge. That's it. You need to get somebody on that right away. And say we want to work with you to create added value to your to your customers who pay you 1495 a month to have that little button Gizmo on their neck.
[00:40:46] That's a great idea and it's things like these that as when the book came out II called a reporter here in our local area. You know, I didn't want to do an email or anything. I called him and said Hey, listen, I've just self publish this book. [00:41:00] I'm a small guy small business, you know, would you mind throwing us a little plug in your paper?
[00:41:05] Next thing. I know this fella writes a full-blown article. Carl my first order of books, I ordered 50 bucks. I sold 400 bucks in a month because of that guy. Yeah because of this guy. Yeah. Well Dad, there's a need for what you're doing and you're Nate. You're in Naples, Florida, right? That's correct.
[00:41:25] So people who live in Florida, they are relatively close to Naples as well as that's very far south. Where is Naples? Yeah. Yeah. It's south of Fort Myers where as far south as. You can go on the Gulf of Mexico side. Okay, so people who live in that or that area they can reach out to you through the website or do you have cookie want to plug your phone number to your office real quick?
[00:41:44] Sure. Sure. My phone numbers two three nine two eight seven five three seven six. And we have plenty of opportunities on the website. I have a page of upcoming events that you can see and even better than that. I teach these courses this this course has [00:42:00] been approved by Florida Blue. It's been approved and taught at Florida Blue now, I don't want to make it confusing.
[00:42:05] It's not covered by insurance. You can submit your own Super Bill if you would like and the return berries, I've heard of people getting $10 back versus the entire session. So the cost of the session ID berries, but I teach this at Florida Blue in Fort Myers. I also teach you that a Florida blue location in Sarasota.
[00:42:27] Very very good. Yeah, you can get all that information on my website. Listen, I want to thank you for coming on and talking about this today. It is very very important stuff. It really is like I. When I was in the alarm business, we were actually making fall detectors with their ergometer, 's so when someone hit the ground they didn't have to press a button the dispatch would get called.
[00:42:49] Yeah, that's incredible. It's a big problem and it's and look I was in this business in the 90s people have gotten more people have gotten old since then. This is a huge issue. This is a huge [00:43:00] issue and you have a solution. You have a workable solution as opposed to. Throwing money at something that you know people want to be better.
[00:43:09] They want to feel better. They want to feel like themselves. They want to feel that they can be engaged in life until the last days of their lives. Nobody wants to be sitting in a chair waiting for somebody to come over and push them in front of the TV. No, no, but let me give you let me give you a statistic in 2015.
[00:43:23] There were 50 billion dollars that related to fall related injuries and missed work because of those fall-related injuries that 50 billion Medicare Medicaid. Are 75% of those costs? Yeah, so there's your another that's the next group you need to contact and get them to send up a leaflet out in some of their stuff to tell people to buy the book.
[00:43:45] Yeah, I think about the impact think about the impact you can have on taxpayer dollars if more people worked hard to become ambulatory. Yeah, that would be great from that would be great by me. Yeah, well, you got [00:44:00] definitely the the pers companies you need to get in touch with and then the also you really do need to reach out to the people at Medicare Medicaid and say, you know, I'm not asking you to buy the books, but just let your your people know about it.
[00:44:13] That's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah great idea is called Mama do that. Okay. Listen, Chris. Thanks for being on the show today. It's been very very informative and good luck with all your endeavors. Okay? Hey Carl. Thank you so much for having me. Appreciate the platform. Okay, and we will see everybody tomorrow.
[00:44:27] We have a really good show about anti-aging tomorrow and how mRNA effects of Aging that I'm interested in because I'm getting old will see her by tomorrow with more superhuman radio. Thanks for listening today.
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