[00:00:00] Hey. Hey, welcome back. I'm Still rocking the eyepatch not good news with the I scary stuff going on here really affecting me. But in the meantime guys got to show up for work and he's got to do his thing and I'm here and I'm trying to help. Good friend and his partner with today's show because I believe in them and I want you to know more about them.

[00:00:55] And that is my good friend James bomb [00:01:00] and his girlfriend Tania Stallworth. How you guys doing up? Let me open your mind. Sorry about that. Hey and you have a perfectly clear image everything pulled together at the last minute. Yay. We had some technical difficulties, but we're making it work. I apologize.

[00:01:13] I don't have Tanya has name on. Screen border but we will have it all over the show and everywhere else and I even have a little pop-up that I can hit right here. So everybody knows who you are ugly. So come welcome James long time ago used. Yeah, and I you and I are friends. You're good friends with my son chase you live in San Diego.

[00:01:36] It's a long time ago. You told me I'm II want to start producing keto desert products. And I remember thinking to myself this is going to be a lot of work, but I didn't I never said oh don't do it. Don't do it. And it took you quite a while the two of you quite a while in order to get where you are.

[00:01:57] When did the company actually start Kettle dessert? [00:02:00] Well, technically we started probably what a year and a half year and a half ago. Yeah. Because we're working out of a home kitchen. There's a lot of rules and regulations that go along with that. So we had to kind of pivot and decide to do baked goods instead of that coincided with our Cottage realizes but now Tanya you said baked goods really are with a magic are because anybody can make keto chocolate fudge right coconut oil and cocoa cocoa powder, but right finding a baked good.

[00:02:29] That tastes like something you'd find that a traditional Bakery but is it has little to no carbs in it and really probably no snow no real grains in it at all is difficult, isn't it? No grains. It is it's very difficult to use it out there for other kinds of stuff that thanks. Yeah, that's probably the toughest because it requires work, you know, and a lot of people I noticed we'll go look at a recipe and I'll try to mimic it although look at our ingredients and mimic it.

[00:02:57] It's not as easy as people, you know, when you take out the [00:03:00] carbohydrates and and room and then put in fat it changes the whole chemistry of baking. And and keto is really gone mainstream. Now when you watch TV, you see commercials for traditional diet like Jenny Craig and they have keto friendly meals.

[00:03:17] And so yeah, I don't keto is not the obscure. Zealot like diet that it was James when you and I first started paying attention to that was the decade of the write the correct, correct? It's much more mange. I think more accepted now, you know, especially I educate my customers letting them know fat is not bad.

[00:03:36] You know that. There are good fats, you know, they're bad fats to but there are good fats in you know, don't be afraid of them how I'm sorry if I'm sucking my teeth folks, but I literally just ate three protein bars right before the show because I'm star I was starving. No worries. So James, how does that discussion Go, I mean there are still a lot of people out there that are stuck in that medical author doxy misinformation.

[00:03:59] That fat is [00:04:00] evil fat is bad. The first thing I ask people is there such thing as an essential carbohydrate and then they have to think about and I'm like maybe there isn't because your body can make glucose if you have, you know, too much protein obviously and so then they think and they go.

[00:04:15] You're absolutely right, you know so that I think that's kind of the discussion II create a lot of the clients we get are already on keto for their diabetic or they're gluten-free, you know, they wanted something natural. I didn't think about that. So diabetic the diabetic people type 2 diabetic people are good with your products as well type 2 and type 1 type 1 as well.

[00:04:37] So we get a lot of people that are not necessarily doing keto but for example the other day I had to climb this in my parents are diabetic and they can't have desserts and I ran across your website and I'm going to try them out and sure enough. It didn't raise their insulin or glucose. Now, you've sent me products.

[00:04:56] Yeah actually about a month or so ago and Eliza. Eliza [00:05:00] won't eat. Anything that is like taste funky but it's good for you kind of thing. Like she's not into that. It's probably me and she loved the one of the muffins you said I want to say was it an apple cinnamon muffin or cinnamon rolls the cinnamon roll?

[00:05:15] Yeah. Oh, I mean that was like we both we will almost like going to go. Oh, that one's mine. I didn't eat three of them, you know, like they were great, right? Oh people fight over their desserts.

[00:05:30] Really? So so getting back to the journey you start you start doing this and you want to turn it into a business, but there's lots of challenges one of the big challenges. What do you use? To sweeten your desserts and you guys really took a high high road when it came to this didn't you really good?

[00:05:49] We didn't really want to make any compromises for it because our huge thing is that we just really want to make sure we have something not only that says that it's not going to raise your insulin glucose, but actually has been tested and proven to do that. So. [00:06:00] You know, we use among the among fruit-based sweetener that really helps because mugford is going to probably be the most natural thing that you can use as a sweetener.

[00:06:08] So a lot of people don't know about monk fruit, right? It used to be isn't it the same thing as Lohan we lost audio. Yes. You can hear me at all. I can hear him. I cannot switch on. I've got to keep talking to Tanya in the meantime. So a is monk fruit also known as Lo Han go. Aloha, yes. Okay.

[00:06:29] Yeah it is so me. So they've been using it in China for a long time, right? They absolutely have yeah and it's what's nice about it is that it's actually not even really a sugar it's an antioxidant. So when the fruit oxidizes those antioxidants just naturally become. So it's about as natural as you can get so there's nothing about it that can raise insulin or glucose as far as I know.

[00:06:49] No, I thought I thought monk fruit had a naturally occurring sugar alcohols in it. Are those the antioxidants were talking about am I just using a different nomenclature? Yeah. No, my friend is [00:07:00] not an alcohol. Actually. It's an antioxidant. Yeah. It's an antioxidant. What's a fruit that that oxidizes and then increase these mobile sides and then when it turns brown the fruit is green actually and when it turns brown, it becomes very sweet, but it's not a sugar.

[00:07:14] Interesting. So is it is it hard to acquire? I would imagine it's expensive right real monk fruit. Sweetener is very expensive, right? It definitely is on the price here. And and we just we because it's very very concentrated. So the trade-off is that you need very very little of it. So it's not like you're going to do a cup of monk fruit or anything like that.

[00:07:35] It's really more like, you know an eighth of a teaspoon. That would be the same as like sweetening a. Wow, very strong. It really is very concentrated. Now, why not go with stevia since everybody's got a love affair with stevia right now. Will you you obviously made a decision not to use Stevia.

[00:07:50] What was it? Well be the most of the feedback that I get from so many people that they don't like the aftertaste of stevia. So we just wanted to kind of avoid that [00:08:00] altogether and stuff just because depending on the quality of the stevia that you get and some are better than others where they kind of try and get rid of that aftertaste, you know, just we didn't want to.

[00:08:09] Have to try and source that and stuff and it certainly becomes more expensive with stevia. And Stevia is a little bit more bulk than you would use with like a monk fruit. So another thing I think out of all the seniors is that if you're going to try to get someone that likes sugar monkford's going to be the closest on the Belt curve to mimicking the taste of sugar, you know, so if you're trying to like you said if you want this natural dessert, but not funky.

[00:08:31] Then I think out of all the natural sweeteners out there monk fruit would be your safest back. Now. There is some discussion that is emerging now about Stevia that it does have an effect on the microbiota and we don't know if it's a good effect or a bad effect because the truth is we don't really understand all microbiome yet while we're acting like we do does does monk fruit up have any effect on on gut microbes at all to your knowledge.

[00:08:57] Not to our knowledge, but I don't I [00:09:00] honestly I haven't seen a lot of research about it though either. So if we've seen any if my crew has any effect on the microbiome, yeah, not that we know of. I mean, I know you talked a lot about that and that's one thing if we go to the low carb conference this year, I'll definitely ask a lot of the doctors there.

[00:09:16] I've see if they've heard of anything. But yeah everything I've seen PubMed. I haven't seen anything yet. And we I've even asked our supplier LeConte. If they've seen anything and they're not aware of anything as far as we know so James so James, you can't hear can you hear me James? Can you hear me?

[00:09:35] Yeah, because it's are my keeps dying. Okay, okay technical difficulties again. Okay. That's okay Tanya. Will Tanya will ask questions. I'll go interpret through Tanya.

[00:09:47] So what other choices of sweeteners are other companies out there using? For keto desserts that you purposely stayed away from. What are the other sweeteners [00:10:00] that we've stayed away from the other people use? Well, then the artificial ones sucralose how you Louis? I know something about issues with our lives if we do use what's that sugar?

[00:10:12] Alcohol? No, the other one that we use the recent all over the top. Yeah, if we do you use erythritol we use a lot less a lot of companies with their. We'll only use rip apart because the cost the problem is it's very some people can't handle it. So we if we have any cooling sensation that something else can we do so.

[00:10:31] oh unless we do we use significantly less relative to some of the other companies because you still need it because of the bulk, you know Margaret is so concentrated that you know, if normally you're using 20 grams of something and you can only use 10 grams because if you still 19 grams to fill in the volume, right, so.

[00:10:48] That's that's something that the sugar alcohol will do but again, like most companies we don't want to put a lot of it in there. So we put in the most minimal amount that will structurally hold our desserts [00:11:00] together. So one of our viewers might bear says that he stopped using Truvia, which is a Stevia that actually has a lot of dextrose in it.

[00:11:08] First of all, right, so I try to avoid Kubiak if we can help it to ya but then he says he likes Monk food. However is pure raw honey the best to use as a sweetener. Well that depends on whether or not you want sugar. I guess if you want if you want real sugar then sure you could use pure raw, honey.

[00:11:29] But the reality is that if you're not looking for those extra calories and that insulin Spike not you know, shoot honey is not good. Agave is not good. I mean there's a lot of things that are real sugar that you don't want we're talking about Mike here. We're talking about alternatives. We're talking about alternatives to Sugar on today's show because in order to be keto you really can't have any amount of sugar in there.

[00:12:00] [00:11:59] So who can hear me and who yeah, unless you want to. I mean maybe the exception would be if you want to run a marathon and burn off the excess, you know, glycogen but. I mean, you know who really wants to go that route right? I'd rather just not consume sugar if I can help it right and what you're going for if you're more a Leo person honey, definitely works for you, but when you're looking for Quito and and trying to avoid that insulin or glucose.

[00:12:21] Honey does g exact same thing regular for fun sugar? Yeah is Maya maybe a little? And we're going to give people a recipe to agenda to show of some really cool desert that they can make simply in their own home. That'll be Kettle. So now let's talk about baked goods for just a second. What are some of the other challenges of getting your baked goods?

[00:12:41] Right? Obviously, you can't use flour. So what do you use? Almond flour. He's always flour a little bit of coconut flour. Those are that's really our main ingredient actually. Yeah hours ago and we keep it simple. We don't add a lot of binders. We don't add a lot of fillers. We don't addicts any of the extra stuff that you'll see with [00:13:00] a lot of companies because we do small batches, you know, you start going into bulk, you know, then you have to add a lot of things at the machines.

[00:13:07] But then the quality goes down and you know, then it's not like your grandma is baking we're trying to be legit keep maintain that yeah, they've been tiger T of you know, if you're going here great grandma's house what ingredients which are great grandma has arrived. She doesn't she doesn't have a big thing of sucralose sitting on the front on this note back.

[00:13:23] So yeah, so yeah, so we try to keep our ingredient list as short as possible. And so when did the when did keto dessert company actually open up for business. Last year. Yeah, I wanted to tell him why we kind of how we started it. Yeah, please tell us the story. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean I started doing the Ketone stuff with James and Stephanie first introduced me to it.

[00:13:49] But the big bowl was that I had a really close friend of mine died of lung cancer. It was right, but I was starting to learn about Quito and its benefits and stuff that for cancer. And so what really [00:14:00] motivated me was that, you know just really made me angry that there was. Things that were easy enough to kind of grab and go for people that are sick and stuff that aren't going to sit there and look up recipes and make things because it's very labor-intensive.

[00:14:12] You know, there's nothing that's just off the shelf that you can grab and available. So making things like this, you know, I was experimenting with baking stuff myself just because I enjoyed a big and my friends like you really need to offer this to other people and stuff and it occurred to me that there isn't anything out there like them and you know, the best way to get people stomach is through sweets and that's the one thing that people.

[00:14:33] Really mess, especially Aikido because you don't have those ready type of products anymore. You know, we have numerous people tell us that they haven't had a cinnamon roll in four years, right? We had ours and that's what I said earlier coming into the beginning of the show. There have been a lot of Keto ready-made food companies and there still are you know, a lot of these ready-made food companies.

[00:14:52] Have a keto line. But most people don't buy them because it's pretty the keto diet is one of those diet that it's pretty [00:15:00] simple to come up with Kettle meals on your own. But the thing that you can't come up with easily are keto desserts because of the strength Factor true and that's where we ran into because we wanted to be the same thing.

[00:15:14] I was just grabbing your friend some desserts and nothing was there right by then wait and after she had passed away were like we need to be that complicated. Absolutely, that's wonderful. Now talk about the line what exactly Give me the give me the full gamut of what you produce what people can buy if they want to go to keto desserts.

[00:15:35] It's Kettle desert company.com, right? Yeah, and we try to keep the name simple. We didn't want to alienate anyone specific desert, you know, like cookies or fun cake. So by keeping the word keto desert as a whole it allows, you know, because what happens is, you know, Prior to this. I'd buy from 10 different companies and you're going to one store and one store 1 store.

[00:15:55] And then we just had so many ideas of things that we wanted to make for people that people would enjoy so, [00:16:00] you know now we've got, you know, three different muffins chocolate coffee cake lemon poppy seed. That's what I love the lemon. Yeah. I like to see I like lemon poppy seed pound cake and yellow lemon poppy seed muffin.

[00:16:11] I think it was that we had they were unbelievable. Like yeah, so we started with the muffins and we later expanded to cookies we could have you now you have something soft. You know, if you have like a copy. I know you don't do coffee now proud of you. But um, so yeah, so for people that wanted something soft and we want to transition to cookies because I think that's, you know, crunchy something crunchy standard cookies chocolate chip cookies.

[00:16:37] We did snickerdoodle cookie. And then we decided to just do what started off as just kind of seasonal things which was like a keto rum cake. So these lovely little pecan balls that are rolled in confectionery, you know sweetener and people really love those we ended up just keeping those on is just a regular product and then some chocolate chocolate chips as well.

[00:16:56] So I know we got cheesecake. So this cheesecakes are really really [00:17:00] popular right now. We're transitioning to a commercial kitchen. So we're not making as many of them right now until we get there. But but once we can share those cheesecake, Because that's something that it's simple but yet people don't make they'd rather just buy it.

[00:17:12] That's what the feedback I yeah cheesecake is a cheesecake. If you don't know how to make one that's that you can waste a very expensive amount. Of cottage cheese or ricotta cheese or whatever it is that you're using and you made it you made a cheesecake for my son Chase's birthday this past year.

[00:17:27] Yes. I know. I know. He said it was amazing. Yeah, and yeah cheesecake is one of those things that you really don't have to deviate far from a traditional cheesecake in order to make it Kettle. I mean, the biggest change is just the sweetener that you're using and how it kind of crust. So we use a walnut.

[00:17:45] That that we use a granulated sugar with with butter. I mean Butters everybody's run. Yeah, and we've been told it's a really nice ratio of that butter flavor and crunch to how much of the cheesecake you're actually getting right try to make it creamy really like that New York [00:18:00] style and I wouldn't I would recommend that everybody do what Mike Baird did he said, this is awesome.

[00:18:05] I just checked your website. Kettle desert company.com very very cool. Yes, and we're going to give you a discount you get a 10% discount if you use the code s HR 10 off of anything that you purchase as a result of today's show show them some love. I want to take a quick commercial break and when we come back, I've got other questions for you.

[00:18:28] And and and obviously we're going to give everybody a quick down and dirty dessert that they can make themselves. Yeah and home that will be Kettle friendly. So stay tuned. We'll be right back with more of superhuman radio. Welcome back to super human radio. We're talking with James Baumann Tanya Stallworth about their company the kettle dessert company.

[00:18:51] Kettle was a mainstream diet. Lots of people use it just because they want to lose weight some people do it because they believe that the kettle lifestyle will [00:19:00] improve the quality of their lives. Ameliorate disease states, which has been shown to do in some cases. Hey James, you know, I checked out your Facebook page today, and I never realized where you started physically to where you are today as far as how much muscle you put on all because of you.

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[00:21:10] I think there's lots of great clothes in there. That'll show how hard you work in the gym. So I had to do that little pimp job. Yeah. There you go. Look at that. I know I was I was looking at your Facebook page. I'm like dude you were a little guy back in the day man. You're like you're like ripped and muscular now.

[00:21:26] Yeah, you know I didn't in it and I think the keto really how comes before keto my testosterone apps. I wasn't producing much testosterone and after keto you know, because of the facts and then and maximizing your hormones. I'm not still in the upper limits, but I'm actually in the range. Can you believe that in Quito did.

[00:21:43] See and that's a big thing people don't understand the importance of fat because doctors have been telling everybody fat is bad for you fat raise. Your cholesterol fat does not raise your cholesterol the carbohydrates in the sugars you eat or what raise your cholesterol and but you can't get a doctor for tell the truth WhatsApp [00:22:00] if the classroom was an issue, I'd be dead.

[00:22:02] I have such a high level I'd be dead right now right class are really was the issue and if that really was the issue, but we need cluster. I need it for my woman I want. Our growth hormone and I want all the things that you know, you need that Foundation. Well think about this think about this. So every single cell in your body.

[00:22:19] The membrane of the cell is made out of cholesterol, right? And when you take statin drugs you end up with muscle wasting because there's not enough cholesterol to build right muscle back. I mean that tells you something right there Mike Barrett. Thank you so much Mike. Mike said he just shared your website in all of your groups.

[00:22:39] You rock you rock? Thank you very much. And don't forget about that s HR 10 will get you 10% off anything you buy their so getting back to the discussion. What are your hopes and dreams? What are the next steps for you? As far as Kettle dessert company goes we are really excited because things are just going really.

[00:22:57] Ali rowing we're not going. and [00:23:00] kitchen. Right now because we've been in a cottage food license, we can only handle liver with in San Diego, but the minute that are that kind of food license are the commercial kitchen license comes through will actually be able to ship Nationwide. So we'll probably start it off slowly but we'll be doing that one that that leads me to the next question.

[00:23:18] So right now can you ship or you cannot ship Nationwide right now? We cannot ship for payment. This is how that works so we can get giveaway. So we've been doing giveaways and stuff. Just kind of introduce our product to different people as we're leading up to having the commercial kitchen and then being able to ship Nation.

[00:23:35] So once that kitchen gets approved and you know, we're going to be at will be ready. So let me ask you a dumb question. Let's say I wanted some of your desserts and I was willing to donate money. Yes, could I donate 50 dollars and you'd send me a package of dessert? There's a way to work around that.

[00:23:58] Yes, so my [00:24:00] because I'm cause I'm thinking about actually ask to see if we can do something like that where it's more of a friends-and-family kind of kind of list. So you're part of the Superhuman radio family. We are looking into that you are part of our family. So anybody that is attached to the Superhuman radio family week.

[00:24:15] I'm sure we can accommodate they work something. My so because Mike Bear just posted a he used to be 550 pounds plus and now he's down to 360 and he's learning more about Kettle graduation. And I'm well, I'm thinking Mike is going to want to order some of this but he can't but if Mike wanted to donate $30, I'm sure that you guys could send him a nice.

[00:24:36] Thank you for donating money to company. Yes, I can. Definitely Mike definitely message me or message Tanya James Bond. Or you can email us at orders at Quito loser company.com and let us know you were on super video and we can put that order in immediately. Yeah, because he wants a cheesecake for his 50th birthday.

[00:24:55] He said so there you go. [00:25:00] He could he really can he could eat everything. So it's ordered orders at Kettle desert company.com that people could communicate, okay. Yeah, uh-huh. Excellent. That's done with our we can set you up for when we start delivering and stuff too. So we're getting ready to do that as well.

[00:25:16] So in California, you guys are doing a big bang up job. I would imagine right because that's where your that's where you're here because from my understanding there isn't any other company that has not just ketones. There's quite a variety from from what I've heard from patients and customers.

[00:25:30] Right, so you just said patient as well. Okay, you just said patients. Do you have doctors that refer people for your products? We have we have a few doctors. So in San Diego, we have a low carb community and one of the center's we go to there is a doctor and a sports nutritionist Jeff Carter man and his partner got the doctor named David.

[00:25:55] Anyways, he's and they both are key. And so they they [00:26:00] always recommend our desserts to their patients if they want to have a dessert that is you know, so we don't have offices per se that are like that are referring people to us. But we do have doctors that are customers of ours that do share our products and stuff with people that they know.

[00:26:14] So give me an idea of the job descriptions between the two of you. I got a feeling that Tanya is the is the chef the baker? Yes, my mother and I are the ones that do the baking James does a lot of the marketing stuff works with our Instagram. He does a lot of sourcing and stuff for ingredients.

[00:26:29] Yeah sure that we get really good quality stuff from until the companies. I want to make sure it's non-GMO if I can get organic coach, you know all the things that that you want and whether its marketing or not. It doesn't even matter. I just want the best of the best ingredients because you know, it's like paleo but without all those cars because Palio's natural and people want natural, you know, and sometimes with Quito.

[00:26:51] They use a lot of artificial ingredients. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. So put a great example, right even though it doesn't have sugar some [00:27:00] people are affected by the sucralose in in some people get kicked out of ketosis. Really hmm. Yeah. It depends. Oh, yeah, you know what? I you did share a study with me about that once yeah, it's not not everybody.

[00:27:13] But so so, you know, so that's kind of my job is to find clean ingredients ethically sourced ingredients. You know because you know some companies like palm oil is that really ethically sourced from my understanding, you know with the deforestation so, you know coconut oil would be a better choice as an example for nct's if you're going to do that.

[00:27:32] So yeah, that's kind of my role is getting raw supplies connect social media connecting other keto companies to us and just really try to educate the consumer on the vent even just reducing your carbohydrates, you know in general not necessarily have to be in ketosis. But you know cutting out the bread rice and pasta so, you know, I know you're talented and lovely.

[00:27:52] No I haven't I haven't had pasta and decades and any time I eat pizza the crust is made out of chicken. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I [00:28:00] don't eat real Pizza. I real Pizza. I had a Papa John's Pizza two years ago. I talked about it on the show and I literally felt sick for two days. I'm sure that's what happens that yeah get rid of it.

[00:28:13] Yeah, you probably realize how probably how affected your body actually was when you had all that implementation before you couldn't tell the difference, but now that you know, your body is like yeah, that's not very well. Mike wants to know do you work directly with Organic Farms? You do farm to like do you actually work directly with farmers and stuff for some of your ingredients?

[00:28:31] Yes, not necessarily directly, but there is a local farm for our eggs and they are organic free-range. And not just you know 360° running around chicken, but I'm talking like a whole backyard like grass like endless amount. Yeah. I know. I know because that without that now they go they call free range.

[00:28:50] They just literally move the cage. It's a giant cage that they just keep moving around. Yes. The labeling laws are really misleading. And so yeah, we try to we [00:29:00] try to get and locally sourced or anything that yeah that can help out Co-op. The best we can so none of these big corporations, you know, we want to be local and support our local community.

[00:29:11] James is really good at looking at what the details are behind the label and stuff and not just what they're telling you interest rate. They tend to kind of say things a certain way or listed a certain way that gives you certain idea and then if you know find out that it's just a cage moving around like there's no such thing as a vegan chicken, right?

[00:29:27] So when you see when I whenever I buy eggs and we buy eggs from to. But whenever we're in the grocery store and if we're in a jam and I got to buy eggs. I always laugh, you know vegan feed and I'm like, there's no such thing as a vegan chicken. Why are you trying to make them eat vegan? They eat worms.

[00:29:42] They eat their own poop, they'd bugs. Right? I mean, have you ever seen it? I've seen a chicken snatch a mouse and just eat it up a mouse and it's like that's not a vegan chicken. That'd be horrible. That'd be doing this favor to the chicken. Yeah, see [00:30:00] ya. In fact, not divert the discussion, but just this week the country of Belgian made it illegal to force a child to be vegan parents can be arrested.

[00:30:14] I know. I know I mean you can't yeah, that's I'd be mortified if I heard someone try to make their kid or pet or like the pet. They try to make their pets D. I know we did we did a show two years ago with with the Daniel array go about people who want to make their dogs vegan. It's like are you crazy?

[00:30:34] These are descendants of wolves. They don't they're not be they don't eat. They don't know farmer ever stepped out of his back door and looked out in his cornfield and said those damn dogs ate all my corn again. No corn dogs. Don't eat corn. Yeah, they don't eat corn, even when they have the chance to they don't eat it.

[00:30:53] I know they'd rather eat me. I mean our dog is cute. And and so there's a bit [00:31:00] let's talk about that for a second. So there's there's a big movement out there right now for keto dog food specifically because he dope at sceeto dogs and probably cats. They don't develop cancer. The cancer is a big thing today in the dog Community really is.

[00:31:16] Yes. So many dogs are getting diagnosed with cancer is different form. So and so. So James, do you have a favorite dessert that Tanya makes I like the cinnamon rolls because it reminds see again. I don't eat. I don't prior to this. I didn't really crave desserts, you know, and so it reminds me of the Cinnabon, you know, but I never really was into sugar because I was always into fitness.

[00:31:43] I was very, you know, like it was a protein shake it didn't have to taste great. I didn't need all the extra for it was functional and very structured. So when it was all new to me, you know, because for me I don't need desserts. I know I want to live healthy. I don't need dessert so it's logical but but I think the cinnamon rolls [00:32:00] it brings me back to when I was in high school and I actually ate like crap so I think our cinnamon roll.

[00:32:07] I would be my top two in the cheesecake. Okay? Okay. Look, what about you David going on with Tanya. Do you have ever use real real dare, you know a lot of people ask are you are you kind of their company, you know, there's nothing wrong with dairy. If you're unless you're lactose intolerant unless you want to that small percentage of people that.

[00:32:29] That doesn't have lactase persistence in your genetics at there's nothing wrong with dairy very very little lactose because we used primarily the fat so we don't use actual milk, right the protein we do use is a whey protein isolate so we do take out the lactose, right Tanya. Do you have a favorite dessert?

[00:32:51] We lost you on the audio for a second. Can you hear me now, Tom? Hello, what's going on? Oh, no, you can't hear me. Really [00:33:00] Tanya? Okay, here's one of the winter you Carl. We're gonna we're gonna run. We're going to run a commercial and when we come back, we're going to get you guys a recipe that you can make at home.

[00:33:08] Stay tuned. We're making it happen. You guys hear me? Okay. Yeah, okay great. So what we really just need to do now to wrap up the show is give everybody. Ace down and dirty simple but delicious keto dessert recipe that they can do at home.

[00:33:32] Oh, yes. Okay. Go the easiest thing that I can think of that I ask love is a good extra sweet as if you. you get some heavy cream and you get some cocoa powder and then some mug for sweet there. You just put those together. They're whip it up. You get this delicious mousse. Oh, it's so good then if you pump or you can put it on something if you want.

[00:33:52] Yeah. Okay, so let me go so don't give me some give me some ratios if I have if I have a cup of cream and I whip it [00:34:00] how much cocoa powder how much monk fruit. Well, I mean probably the month of person did it is so concentrated you promise. I think I mean you can get it as routes and stuff. Pack it up, but you probably would only need a packet of it.

[00:34:17] But I mean with sweetened it to taste I would say you going to fluff up a lot. So that actually should probably get you a few servings out of it so that it can be a dessert you freeze. It actually becomes kind of like an ice cream or whipped ice cream. Really amazing. Oh, yeah, they do I do I do.

[00:34:33] I add the cocoa before I whip the cream if I'm whipping cream from scratch. Well, I mean, it's just heavy cream that you would buy at the store right get those little cartons of heavy cream like one of the perfect and I think one of those is about a cup then probably as you pour then you would put the powder in.

[00:34:50] You know, you probably start mixing it up. Yeah, you could do that. So I mean what's nice about this recipe is it doesn't really matter which order you do it in. So again, [00:35:00] okay. All right, but just whip it up. Whip it up getting. Yeah. We want to keep it as simple customer. So just whip it up get some air into it that's it and just a gesture month or taste, you know you I would have them on for maybe at the very end.

[00:35:16] Okay? Hi, and you know, what, would you do me? Do me a favor Tanya because we're breaking up so bad after the interview is over. Would you message me? The recipe written out and I'll put it on this show post when we publish. Yeah, that'll make life a lot easier. I look I wish you guys a lot of luck.

[00:35:34] I know you're working hard and you've got a lot invested in this. Yeah. I want you guys to be successful and you keep a lookout will be giving you another package next month. Absolutely and don't forget Mike Bear. He wants to get a cheese cake for his birthday. So he'll email you at orders orders at Kettle desert company.com.

[00:35:55] Yes. Okay. There you go. I look thanks for being on the air today and we will [00:36:00] see everybody tomorrow with more supremum radio. See you then.

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