[00:00:00] Hey, welcome back. It's Thursday. Which means today is the ReNew Life RX show. We we literally knocked it out of the park last show about grapefruit that show went so viral. It's amazing. Let me get the first step to changing your life starts with the ReNew Life Show with Adam Lamb.

[00:00:59] That's a [00:01:00] long intro. Hey, how you doing? I'm good. How are you? So last week show was like people's minds were blown. I kept getting emails from people going Carl. How could this be grapefruits healthy? How could this be? It makes you lose weight. How could this mean? It's like, you know, you know, it's cool.

[00:01:15] So we started incorporating what I was thinking too kind of it's in my marketing guys. Like why don't we add these podcasts to our emails for our clients? And so we added the grapefruit one was the first one we just did and actually this morning a like a pretty top A-list celebrity message me he goes.

[00:01:33] I just had a bruise. I can't agree for any more of that in it football vote. What and then I was like, oh, yeah. There's the the thing that we did the podcasters. Yeah. I was pretty funny. I was like, yeah man, no more grapefruit. He just got back from some tropical things shoot a movie. But here I am.

[00:01:49] I have I have three organic grapefruit in my drawer at the house in the refrigerator and at least it goes to me. Are you going to eat those? And I said [00:02:00] eventually I'm going to eat a couple slices here and there when I'm not going to eat like an entire grapefruit like she goes we're gonna throw those away.

[00:02:06] I just know they'll be okay because like I went from eating one and two grapefruit every single day now and and now I'm like, oh no, I can't even be in the same room with a grapefruit now. I went to my friend's you grab my little sparkling water and I grab the watermelon flavor over the grapefruit flavor just.

[00:02:25] Okay, look a little worried about we have a nootropic supplement that we're coming out with that. I just took before this and literally in my head. I thought what's it that grapefruit flavor? Like what's if it I'm out here tweaking out or something. Yeah. Oh that they don't want to have grapefruit with you and anybody watching the show live you can ask questions and we'll do our best to answer them.

[00:02:43] And we do want to know what you think. We I have a question from Lynn moskovitz when he saw what we were talking about today, and we want people to submit questions for renewed life are EXO. Are you can post them in this thread on Facebook? You can email them to on air at superhuman radio [00:03:00] dotnet and we will work them into the into the show for sure.

[00:03:04] So today's discussion is about a study that was just published and it's and it's a really it's a really important study and it with the rate of die obesity diabetes diabetes and obesity combined that we have in our nation today. There are a lot of doctors out there that are on the fence about prescribing to stop stirring place with therapy for their male patients because they have diabetes and you I'm sure you so Len moskovitz actually asked me to ask you this question.

[00:03:37] This would be a good jumping-off point. Yeah. So when someone comes to you, do you have a do you have like a shortlist of like okay if anyone has these things we don't prescribe anything for. I wouldn't say you've known this by now with me like there is no absolutes for [00:04:00] us. You know, there's some of the absolutes are we don't work with young men meaning like men under 30 with you know, if there's that 2827 with an exception we.

[00:04:11] Like there's some of those hard lines in the sand we stay in the hormones face. I had you know, some people sometimes we help things with we help their depression right like when your hormones change but we don't work with depression medication, right? We didn't actually don't don't really believe in it.

[00:04:28] So but as far as like someone coming to us with diabetes and like their type 2 diabetic we want to help solve that problem. If we have we had a guy just recently came over he. This is like 375 pounds in and I was in he was trying therapy with another clinic. He's like man, I actually felt worse and I was like, well, it's not the thing for you.

[00:04:50] I think you know, you should lose a hundred pounds, but just yesterday he checked in easily. He's done pretty good as lost about 12 or 15 pounds. So he's not even a client of ours, but we [00:05:00] still check in right we want to say he's doing we did his blood work. We looked at it A1C was. It was okay.

[00:05:07] You're resting glucose was okay. So we still go through this kind of accountability thing with our with our patients that come in as far as the glucose A1C cholesterol all those things just to hold them accountable and a lot of the reasons we do that is kind of like if you don't really know you don't change your habits, but it for like a listen you need to turn up your healthy.

[00:05:28] Fat's you need to cut out your fried fish in those kind of things are like they may not know those things or their glucose here. Are we want people in the 80s right where you know, the regular blood glucose levels up to 99? Yeah. They're like, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No, it's not in. You know personally I'm in the upper 70s.

[00:05:49] I like to be just because I fast regularly. I try to I still sometimes binge on sugar and crap. I'm human but blood pressure something like if you you know, if you're over [00:06:00] 140 ish a lot of times we won't even in other indicators right there is not like I said, not one thing if your your cholesterols jacked up your hemoglobin hematocrit are higher than usual your blood pressure's high glucose is high.

[00:06:12] You're not going out. You definitely not going to injections. In just because injections are higher risk than a topical at the testosterone cream. But if your blood pressure is like over 150 or something, that's more the space. As far as like diabetes or things like that. I mean, you know, we'll do stuff with metformin as well because a lot of times if you really know how to use it.

[00:06:34] If you it's one thing to prescribe it to somebody to say, hey take that right, but actually teaching them like, hey, we want you to start fasting want you to take it first thing in the morning. I have your first meal and that your third meal. Have you met 40 like the stop your sugar directly? It took 15 minutes to spend with somebody to actually have them go I could do that.

[00:06:56] And then guess what happens glucose goes down A1C goes down [00:07:00] if they lose weight and it's just a simple looking just hey man, the way you're doing it is wrong. We want to do it different. Here's what we think and they're like I could probably do that right instead of saying. Hey, you got eat salads and Grilled Chicken every day and they're like no I large pizza every other day, right?

[00:07:15] They're not they're not changing that fast, but if you can get them to tweak some stuff. You know, then you're helping and then it just moves a little bit closer. But so let's let's talk about this study for second. So the so this study is called voluntary wheel running and testosterone replacement increases heart angiogenesis through micro RNA 132 and castrated diabetic rats.

[00:07:39] And this was published in March 1st of 2019 in the Journal of physiology. I'm just to go ahead and give everybody credit. This was a multi-centered. Actually I ran. Is [00:08:00] the is the origin of this paper out of four different universities there and and research centers all of them had something to do with either the University of medical Sciences in urmia, Iran or lauriston university of medical Sciences in quorum quorum a bad Iran II obviously I'm butchering the names.

[00:08:24] I'm sorry, but I want I want people understand. When it comes to science, like, you know, all these countries around the world are doing good research. So what they did was they use a very similar model that's used here in the United States. They took genetically predisposed diabetic rodents. You can buy them and they actually took 63 diabetic rats and one group was treated with two milligrams of testosterone per kilogram per day, which is a fairly Kickin dose, by the way.

[00:08:57] Well, you think about it and [00:09:00] then and then the other group was was not treated with anything at all. Both groups were given access to the wheel rodents favorite toy to run on for hours and hours. And so the diabetic rodents that were cast were castrated. They had no testosterone being produced whatsoever.

[00:09:21] And then the other group was getting an injection a daily injection of two milligrams of. And they let this study run and then they sacrifice the rodents and one of the things that we know happens in the diabetic model and humans to is that angiogenesis shuts down. Why is this important? Okay, so I want to tell you a story about a guy.

[00:09:44] Who's been on testosterone for 15 years? And went to the went to the doctors for a routine. Check up. And they said, you know, we noticed a little [00:10:00] something wonky about your heartbeat. So they send them in for a what do they call it the sonogram? And so they're doing a sonogram of the heart and they go.

[00:10:14] something's weird like what there's like an artery where it doesn't belong Okay, so. They do some more research on the guy and what they discover is a his his lateral the led the Widowmaker artery, right? That's the the lateral artery that feeds the heart has a 100% blockage in it. Now think about this this guy supposed to be dead.

[00:10:42] He's not supposed to be sitting there. Listen to the doctor, right? But lo and behold right where the artery blockage started and obviously this is overtime. This blockage has been happening the honoree Sprouts a little [00:11:00] limb that literally grows up. I want to get this for the camera up and around the blockage and then reconnects to the main artery.

[00:11:11] Bypassing now think about this it made its own by Pam made its own bypass. So they were like a disguise themselves to do something like that to your level. They're like, they're like baffled. So one of the doctors says to him, you know, if you were not on testosterone, this would not have happened.

[00:11:31] He said because testosterone increases angiogenesis throughout the whole body, right? So why is angiogenesis important because as your body ages and changes the arteries and veins and blood vessels continue to grow and collateralize and now let's talk about muscle gains, right? So you lift weights.

[00:11:53] You want your muscles to get bigger that takes quite a few things, but it's not only about protein synthetic response. [00:12:00] It's about irrigation. You've got to increase the irrigation to the back 40 in order to feed those muscle fibers blood. Well that's angiogenesis. So testosterone increases angiogenesis, but diabetes, we know shuts angiogenesis off and in fact other than 030 sclerotic plaque.

[00:12:22] One of the main reasons that we believe that diabetic suffer from a higher degree of heart attacks is because of the lack of a Genesis because when angiogenesis shuts down then those new blood vessels that grow in the heart itself to bring blood to the heart muscle. They stopped bringing blood to the heart muscle and that's what ischemia is ischemia is the loss of oxygen.

[00:12:46] To the tissue in the heart where it builds up lactic acid now and you have a burning pain in your chest, you're having a heart attack because the heart muscle is not being oxygenated. So. We know that people who suffer from type [00:13:00] 2 diabetes, they have reduced angiogenesis and they suffer from these problems with the heart.

[00:13:07] So when they sacrifice these Road and I'm dumping this all down right when they sacrifice these rodents what they discovered after they took the tissue from the heart was the rodents that were voluntarily going on the wheel but would diabetic and castrated. They had no new blood vessels in the heart growing at all.

[00:13:25] In fact, they had a reduction of blood vessels in heart tissue, but the rodents that were getting testosterone they were having brand new Sprouts of blood vessels in the heart angiogenesis was back in gear, which they tied down to micro RNA 132 and something all else called CD 31 and CD 31. Is a neutrophil that's designed to clean up metabolic debris.

[00:13:53] That's also shut off and diabetes. So you have all this metabolic waste building up you. [00:14:00] No new blood supplies. I mean you really literally killing yourself slowly with type 2 diabetes. All those things would turn back on because of testosterone not because of exercise because the other rodents had no testosterone diabetic they were exercising.

[00:14:14] They saw no new nerve Sprout and no no new blood vessel sprouting and I think it's because you know, the athletic harder that just, you know, I know that my years of doing more of an excessive. Regiment of hormones stuff and training crazy hard, you know, I had some heart issues but you get that athletic hard, right?

[00:14:35] Yeah bradycardia know that that's usually a slower heartbeat and the button the heart gets bigger, right, but I know that when I scaled back like I just went you know that when I cross kind of into the trt land right around my 30s and went back and had that checked it actually improved so it's a fraction.

[00:14:58] Ejection fraction the [00:15:00] fraction. Yes that got better in the all that everything just kind of didn't go back and also the athletic Earp, I mean I train every single day of course, but but I think to your point is so people can see is that when you're on testosterone and your your heart's a muscle right and you're making that muscle work that muscle is going to grow but it can also I think get stronger rebuild and things like that as opposed to when you're diabetic.

[00:15:23] It doesn't happen even if you exercise. What what and so let's address that because this is important because this is another area that bud blood pressure doesn't get it. Right. First of all, I have a pet peeve with blood pressure because we're still using a device that was created in the late 1800s to measure blood pressure and it's a failure.

[00:15:41] It's wrong all the time. But that's another that's it. That's a show I did a long time ago, so. There are two types of changes in the heart this pathological changes which are bad and then there's physiological changes which is a good so the athletic heart is a physiological change and and this and while the heart gets [00:16:00] bigger just like it does in a pathology where guy sits on the sofa all day long each the wrong Foods doesn't move his heart gets bigger to his heart gets bigger because.

[00:16:10] The muscles are weakening. And so it's expanding from the hemodynamic pressure of blood and what that heart does to compensate is it makes the walls of the heart thicker to resist being stretched so far. It can't beat anymore. But but the physiological changes to the heart of quite. Even though the heart gets bigger the sinuses get bigger the cavities inside of it get bigger so it can handle more blood the walls.

[00:16:40] Don't get thicker. So think of yourself you live in a house. The house is a is on it's a hundred square feet and and but but one house the walls are 10 feet thick and the other house the walls are 10 inches thick which house do you have more room to live in the one that has 10 inch walls, right?

[00:16:59] So. [00:17:00] This is the difference in pathology to of the heart and Physiology physiological changes. When you work hard when you lift heavy weights, when you do a lot of cardiovascular training when you're active your heart gets bigger, but it gets bigger for the right reason it gets bigger because it becomes a more efficient and stronger pump when you sit all day long on your ass and don't do a damn thing your heart gets bigger, but it gets bigger for the wrong reasons.

[00:17:27] It's getting weaker. From the pressure it's a weird. So what about but I think one of the concerns is as you age in maybe you're not as active that that you know, that space now is it could be a problem because you're not pushing the blood out as well. Right? And I so I you know to me I think I'm a you know, there's a lot of work with a lot of like older successful men.

[00:17:53] And you know, I just sometimes share best practices with them even just because. It's successful business or like they're [00:18:00] super healthy fit and they're like in their late 60s 70s in most of us guys. Have a good morning routine. Right so like to get up and get the heart going get get that process moving even if the rest of the day is different and I think that's that's super important to to think about because I was always something like well when you get older you're not going to be as that you're not going to be one of the gym six days a week.

[00:18:22] But there still has to be something that you likely doing. If you're at it could be just getting up for that morning walk. There's a lot of people in my neighborhood older people older than me. I see them out there every morning walking and they're walking and that their stride and they're moving fast and they're walking and that's gold that's golden.

[00:18:38] It doesn't all have to be squats and deadlifts just doing that every morning Stan active even just that just I started riding my bike a bit more if that's it's like super hot out here in Texas, but I like that sweat. So just evenly. Every other day doing a 30-minute little bike ride, like it's a different thing that I'm used to and it's very good for my legs my achilles tendon [00:19:00] issue to but you know just that little bits not does the tell her to go around the block right take the dog for a walk or something like that to as opposed to sitting on your butt like we talked about with some of the folks, you know.

[00:19:12] I want to address this. Oh, Darcy Clark says, can you reiterate how we measure blood pressure is because wrong and I'm going to just do the Reader's Digest version. I did an entire show to this and I'll try to find the link for you. I did it the end of last year, I believe so, excuse me. In the late 1800s we came up with this blood pressure cuff and even then they knew.

[00:19:38] That certain things could change the reading which means it was completely fallible at the moment. They invented it, but they didn't abandon it because they had nothing else. So basically, she's me a second.

[00:19:59] The blood pressure [00:20:00] cuff has to collapse all of this tissue in order to collapse. The main artery that they're listening for and so what happens is they're listening for how much pressure it takes to collapse the ordering. And then the drop in pressure till the artery opens back up again, and this is systolic systolic and diastolic blood pressure readings.

[00:20:27] Now think about this for a second from an automotive perspective you your car measures oil. Imagine if your car measured oil pressure by squeezing the oil line from the outside you would have to take into account the rigidity and and force it takes just to collapse the line not even the oil passing through it.

[00:20:48] Number one. Number two. Imagine now you put. Towels around it and you got to collapse those towels and then the line so you see where I'm going here [00:21:00] this approach 2222 measuring blood pressure is so faulty then they knew if you measure the arm. At the at the exact level of the heart rate where the arm is resting on a table or a pillow and it's exactly it.

[00:21:15] You'll get one reading if you drop the arm 15°, it could actually go up 22 points that's significant 22 points. That's a difference between somebody going all your blood pressure is going up all your blood pressure is normal, so. When your doctor takes your blood pressure, depending on where your arm is how much muscle you carry whether or not they're actually using a cuff for your size arm because most of them have one size cuff.

[00:21:41] It's called an adult. But if you have a 17 inch arm, you need them to go get the extra large cuff. So you take all these things into account you walk into your doctor. He checked your blood pressure goes. Wow. Your blood pressure is 170 over 95. No, it's really not it's the stupid thing that you [00:22:00] using to test.

[00:22:00] My blood person that says that he let me show you doc. Let me put this let me put my arm up on this table. Let me relax for a couple minutes take it now. Oh, yeah, it went down quite a bit now go get the extra large cuff and ticket. Oh, wow. It went down a lot. Yes. So in other words you were about to prescribe me medication.

[00:22:19] On something and its products that's it. It's definitely an overprescribed we have I couldn't tell you how many we don't do anything with blood pressure medication, but we'll put people on Hawthorne Berry which is a supplement and I've never seen it not bring people people's blood pressure down to the actually I said a guy today and he was off in the getting up in the 190s a days and these are high stress.

[00:22:43] You know, he had sleep apnea going out he had some other issues. But the Hawthorne he was like dude, I don't want to do blood pressure medicine my doctor trying to make me do it. Yeah dump off learned today sent me a thing. He was like and he was like, I was like like one. Like that just this morning is like man.

[00:22:59] I bet can [00:23:00] roll it in the hall phone is it with it was the main only thing that we change I'm going to have to start tailing it. I'm going to start taking I'll tell you why Uber is awesome. I'm going to start taking it. I'm gonna tell you why so, you know, I couldn't donate blood. You know, I have iron overload.

[00:23:15] I was in this really bad Catch-22. I have iron overload. I couldn't donate blood around the time of my surgery because the doctor didn't want me donating blood. He wanted my foot to heal. But okay, so now I'm back on the horse and I'm supposed to be donating blood. What the problem is every time I go to donate blood they tell me my blood pressures too high now I check my own blood pressure at home.

[00:23:38] I have a terrible case of White Coat Syndrome. Like I freaked out as soon as I feel that the problem have to sometimes with people you might see the other side that there's two sides near the can't think off the top my head. What's the higher number in the Lord? It says systolic and diastolic.

[00:23:54] Yeah the diastolic number though if that's. 80 you [00:24:00] can see in someone's maybe no, okay. It's always been it's always good if it's 135 you can tell they probably were a little bit in a stressful situation or or you know, if they get the White Coat Syndrome you can sometimes see those differences.

[00:24:12] But folks do other but we'll see but here's my problem. So iron overload one of the Hallmarks of iron overload. Is it elevates blood pressure? Because it it it increases calcium channel activity in the heart and it causes the heart iron overload causes the heart to to really really contract hard.

[00:24:31] Okay. So people with iron overload always have high blood pressure. What's something that actually lowers blood pressure take a pint of blood and so I would go in and I'd argue with these women. They be like, oh your blood pressure is too high. We can't take your blood. I'm like take my blood and my blood pressure will go down.

[00:24:49] So I had to have my doctor write a letter saying yeah, you can take his blood pressure his blood even if his blood pressure was high. So that's another reason why I'm going to start taking hawthorn berry because whenever I [00:25:00] go in there, Like my anxious my anxiety goes up. I'm like, are they going to turn my blood pressure?

[00:25:06] I started producing about good never good cuff. There's a cuff. I use it. I know that if one yeah and even if they're real. Free up the finger Windows. Maybe the trigger one doesn't do blood pressure. But the cuff one down. You got like hold it up like that and my neck surgeon guy had that his office.

[00:25:22] And that was I actually own one. So I own a regular cuff with it on and I use a stethoscope and I can check my blood pressure that way. But I've been using the cuff one because of the convenience. I check my blood pressure every morning. It's 134 over over 72 137 over 70. My blood pressure is always great and cept when I go into a doctor's office and then it goes through the roof but I use that one the cuff one.

[00:25:47] I bought it at Walgreens. It's getting it. Yeah, that's that's good. I was curious for your opinion wasn't that said? I know. Yeah. I know the arm cuff thing. Stupid and I'll go to fill a prescription. And if I have one of my kids my son likes to [00:26:00] plan that thing but I'll do it in just in that time.

[00:26:04] You can see a difference of just sitting there. Maybe I waited in the longer it went up. You know what I mean? Or you know, there's another thing too and I've been able to do this because we talked about I do a lot of meditation and those kind of things and I can sit I can drop my blood I can take my blood pressure.

[00:26:20] Way down, and I've always done that just a mess with my doctorate only I'll show you I can do that. You know, they're like, we're blood pressure line. I'ma bring it down, you know, 15 20 point that and that bad minute that begs the question about the legitimacy of blood pressure see so all these things that you're talking about like I can slow my heart rate down what I want to write.

[00:26:41] I have to just think about I guess loaded and I can do the same thing. I can concentrate and bring my blood pressure down. I can slow my breathing down and bring my blood pressure. That so what does that mean does that so how can I have high blood pressure if I can do that? It's well to your point.

[00:26:56] It's not an accurate reading. No, I can tell though when my blood pressure is [00:27:00] high. I can tell if my sodium levels, you know, it might my sodium levels High. I know that sometimes like, you know, I've cleaned up plenty of things in my life, you know, I don't drink or anything like that, but I like Diet Coke sometimes when I'm out at a restaurant and I can tell if I have too much diet pop.

[00:27:15] Like my whole body's like I can just like feel my blood pressure and it's not necessary from the caffeine because it can be the next day aspirin on The Fast and I think it's the is a percent. That's African. It's the same thing as too much gone and that's something you know, I had a client of mine real smart guy and he was telling me that his blood pressure went down on average 10 points 10 to 12 points when he get rid of diet.

[00:27:38] And I drink I drink a little carbonated water slide love love Deco John. It's John peek said that Hawthorne Berry extract made his blood pressure come down 10 points and supplementing with potassium and magnesium helps a lot as well. Which a good point. They do relax the blood vessels. Yeah. Okay, so here's lend.

[00:28:01] [00:28:00] Speaking of Cardiology physician say varicose veins are indicative of circulatory issues and trt promotes clotting that first of all trt does not promote clotting unless you're on your own your dosing is wrong. They can never cite studies any thoughts on this. Is it a warning sign to add them or others to use who use trt many bodybuilders have varicose or noticeable veins.

[00:28:28] Okay, so there's a big difference between a varicose vein and and bulging veins like like Paul dalet had like a roadmap in his chest if you remember back in the day like he had all these squiggly veins that's from chronic. Blood pressure changes as in valsalva, you know, when you're squatting you got 700 pounds on your back and you go down in the hole and you push out your blood pressure goes up to like 600 over 400.

[00:28:57] This is a fact that's what valsalva is [00:29:00] but that actually looks like guys get bloody noses. Yes, when their hour left her stuff like that. Yes, but that actually over the course of decades strengthens the blood vessels. It makes the walls of the blood vessels stronger. This is goes back to what I said about.

[00:29:15] A pathological changes and physiological changes people who lift heavy weights their blood vessels are stronger. They're harder stronger now coming back to what Lana is talking about. In fact varicose veins is the result of the loss of youthful hormones women get them when their estrogen levels drop out men get them when their testosterone levels drop out.

[00:29:38] So I would argue with that doctor and say the literature shows that varicose veins is the result of a drop in sex steroids is plenty of good studies out there that show this so it would be indicative that the person should restore their sex hormones. So that those veins don't get weaker and weaker and a weakening of a blood vessel.

[00:30:00] [00:30:00] We're talking about the pipe has nothing to do with the viscosity of the fluid in the pipe. That's so this is misguided these there and I have never seen a linkage between varicose veins and clotting because clotting is due to factors of the blood makeup itself and nothing to do with the pipes.

[00:30:22] Nothing to do right and I think that it's just different. Your varicose vein there's a new person hereditary stuff. I think it can also be lack of movement and all those kind of things and you know, and they talk about things like testosterone being clotting. I mean that it's a thousand milligrams per week.

[00:30:40] It will all thousand milligrams every three weeks. I mean where we see the highest risk and its recent a really good friend of mine who. Is that why don't we talk about testosterone he want to go through his Dock and do the insurance thing and his doctor wanted to do a hundred milligrams every two weeks and I'm like dude that's not going to do anything [00:31:00] for it's actually going to make you got to make them feel good at all.

[00:31:04] Yeah. He's like 53 years old with his testosterone at 700 but his igf-1. Was it like. 90 I'm like dude. This is the thing we should work with. These are guy who does Jiu-Jitsu five days a week and I'm like he's waiting for his age. He's kicking ass and taking names. He threw a while keto but it's just that's what is that going to do?

[00:31:24] It's not a good idea. If you talking we eat spoke to his doctor to do a hundred. Every week which is better, but this is only still too little it's still too little there's actual is actually a study on there's actually a study of probably eight or nine years old Anthony Robert sent it to me a long time ago.

[00:31:41] I would have a hard time put my finger on it right now, but it showed that giving a man a hundred milligrams of testosterone sipping 8 a week actually makes them hypo gonadal. And here's why Yeah, a hundred milligrams of testosterone sippy date is only about. 72 milligrams of [00:32:00] testosterone number one because the cypriot 8 molecule takes up some of that weight number two that's going to release over 28 days the first the first three days 50 percent of it is going to come out and then the next 25 days the other 50% is going to trickle out.

[00:32:19] So basically you're going to have the testosterone levels of 14 year old girl. Well because then the body that when the brains like. No plenty of testosterone here today and it that's what happens when LH and FSH levels just drop they just hit the floor with especially like I said, I mean there's there's guys out there getting 300 milligrams of testosterone every two weeks or every three weeks.

[00:32:41] That's what the once a month just come in and stuff make the in the reason in in the twist of what you just said of like that 25 days trickle is they think that's okay and. It becomes ineffective after it depending on how the body metabolizes right. We got cars that you shots [00:33:00] 2222 Half Weeks Later their blood work.

[00:33:02] They're just awesome. Still pretty high. We have guys three to four days later the blood it drops their bodies metabolizing through the drug faster and everybody's different right just in you know that we're hardcore about everybody's little bit difference why we do so much testing, but the. It's important understand it that that Peak that you're talking about you actually have optimal testosterone and then it drops right away.

[00:33:25] And so you actually started here. Now, you're oh man. I feel great five days later. And now you're what happens is that natural production doesn't continue where it was even though it wasn't optimal. It was better than nothing and then that's no longer there right because you know you and now you're like, Depressed what's crazy about that too.

[00:33:48] Because you know, we're of the belief that Roid Rage is actually estrogen rage. But what we see too is that when guys that we talked, you know, how they feel and those kind of things we [00:34:00] find that they are more agitated more irritable more likely to kind of snap or you know, be ain't whatever it might be like when.

[00:34:08] They're at that lower side of it before your next shot. Yes, and it's good stas rooms. Low, a lot of times are estrogen Spike and it's because they feel it's like it's like when you're tired, right you're tighter, you're hungry, right? Those are both weaker moments for us. That's usually when you're going to be a jerk right not when you feel great, right?

[00:34:27] And so when you when your testosterone dips Down Low Like That from not doing it properly. That's usually when we see the guys that are. And I kind of snapped my wife or I'm just I feel like I'm I think it was so we walk through when is that usually happen? We look at my notes because. When you're on therapy with other Clinic, you're doing a shot every two weeks and that Latin, you know from day nine on your jerk, right?

[00:34:50] I wouldn't I want to tell one minute. I want to I want to take a break and when we come back, I want to talk about some another problem that results from this. These are [00:35:00] once a week or once every two weeks or once every three weeks shots at doctors like to promote. And it's things that guys don't want and it's like hair loss and back knee.

[00:35:08] I want to talk about that when we talked to so stay tuned. We'll be right back with more of the ReNew Life RX Show with Adam Lamb ReNew. Life are x.com. Go there today feel better tomorrow. I was actually looking up some research the lens come on. I want that go away. And if you're still listening check your inbox on Facebook.

[00:35:32] I found two good studies. I don't want to talk about him yet. I want to talk about what we talked about before we went into the break. So we know that the more fluctuations high and low the higher the male pattern baldness the higher the back knee the higher the issues with blood pressure. The these doctors who are going on.

[00:35:55] Just come in once every two weeks. They're actually doing their patients an amazing [00:36:00] disservice. What do you. Oh, yeah hundred percent. I mean it's it's not it's here's the analogy that I use the people and you know, even though I don't drink I think alcohol is always something that we can understand and I said if your goal was to drink two bottles of wine a week, you think it would be best to drink one bottle twice a week which is still a respectable injection dose or two battles once a week or do you think would be best to have a couple glasses of wine and night?

[00:36:29] Nobody my 10 year old son knows the answer that question, right? They know that it makes sense. And that's why you know, we like I said majority of our patients dude, stop some cream. We like it works. It's not for everybody. It's about 5% of people. It just doesn't work well for and so but when it comes to the injections, you know doing a look at Monday Thursday or some splitting the dose up anything other than that isn't really.

[00:36:56] The best way to do it, right we have guys are cool tone convenient [00:37:00] and I'm like dude the dude in the topical but when they go when you go way out we want every two weeks. Here's what we see with every let me shoot that the blood was also selling that comes every two weeks will say 10 days after their shot, right?

[00:37:13] We see 14 year. Like you said a 14 year old girl testosterone their LH and FSH levels are shut down. Their hemoglobin and hematocrit are usually High because the dump and then drop that's where created the the twice a week. The difference of do 200 milligrams of testosterone over the course of one week, you know, two injections hundred and hundreds of for example in 200 milligrams.

[00:37:36] Once every two weeks hemoglobin hematocrit every single time on the other one almost never on our guys that do the twice a week blood pressure changes. We see even though we've talked a little bit about that but we still see changes and sometimes lipids that the HDL can get a little bit more goofed up more likely to get goofed up there off the top.

[00:37:58] Now, yeah, but that is [00:38:00] drastically, you know, that's something we don't want to exist with that list of things. I just gave and so then what happens is they feel the you'd rather therapy or someone else it's doing that right? And so then what happens at the stassen therapy wasn't really for me, right?

[00:38:14] So some days but most the time I felt like crap and it's like anything you're doing it wrong, right? And so. Now we kind of bring them in and we're like, here's how we do it when we go through the let's not how I did it. I'm like that's why you came here. It's a we get them on this pace and then they're like, oh my gosh, this is awesome.

[00:38:31] This is what I wanted and then we show them their blood work. Then and then three months later six months later 12 months later and they're like, holy cow, right? We show will test stuff especially they tell us like what they've been doing. We'll throw some serak of protein in those kind of healthy things and they're not the scary.

[00:38:47] But just to like Hey, we're paying attention to stuff that these dudes had no clay that we're doing it wrong looking at and then to watch as she wrecked protein. Maybe it was a 2.6. Calm down 2.4. And they're like, holy cow and we're like, [00:39:00] yeah, like you're you're healthier body was on fire before now, it's not.

[00:39:04] Yeah. Yeah because it's confusing, you know inflammations and that's the first thing the body does when something's not right. It's all that stuff matters. And so the biggest challenge I think the guys like us have in this space. Is that a lot of people. They're listening to the internet or well, I read I mean I could tell you many times.

[00:39:22] I'm like whatever. So this video I read this article and it was like a some shirtless bodybuilder that's telling them how to dose igf-1 yourself something like that. I'm like deep trust those guys over I like but let's also be clear about something out. Their goals are different a shirtless bodybuilder who shoot until use the growth hormone a day.

[00:39:42] His goals are much different than yours in mind. We want to live a longer life. Right and that's why I asked him. Like are you trying to be like Kim and look like because that's the wrong guy. I mean, there's plenty of guys out there that cater to that goal from a hormone standpoint, but no no, I'm like, okay.

[00:39:59] [00:40:00] Well, let's follow our track record, right we do we do good we get we keep people healthier and happier. So that's always the we have a couple questions from Darcy clock we're going to get to but I want to pick up where we left off with Len moscovitz real quick. So a cursory review of research.

[00:40:16] And what comes up every single time three good studies. I looked at two of them real fast that show that estradiol to testosterone ratios predict varicose veins in Men In other words when estradiol levels start to creep up and they they ratio changes of estradiol to testosterone that is when varicose veins start to occur and reoccur and so there you go.

[00:40:41] They raise your testosterone. You know some of the stuff that there's a buzz, you know with that in the estrogen conversation right now and what a couple things with testosterone therapy where a lot of these studies were done where there was bad [00:41:00] outcomes. It's people that were doing it wrong like we just talked about if there was like the study of the Thousand men we give.

[00:41:05] 200 mg once every three weeks. Did you stop? Yeah everything you say after that doesn't matter because you're doing it wrong, right? It's like what everybody drove the car in reverse and Expressway? 50% got an accident, right? Well, let's say we're doing it. We're gonna rock that right wrong, whatever.

[00:41:20] Alright and so some of these studies to that. I've looked into where people are talking about how this, you know, estrogen in test region so bad at interested so bad a lot of the times these studies work people on testosterone. There were just people taking anti estrogen and they were taking crate, you know, it's something like a milligram every other day or something like that a milligram every other day and it's because all will crush you.

[00:41:41] But any other day of selling drug will kill you as opposed to a half a milligram twice a week of another drug might be a therapeutic dose for somebody right like right it can be that big of a difference and so it's like sometimes we gotta just. go back, you know from like where maybe we are Direction [00:42:00] was and look at the big picture to go into it a little more thoughtfully and I think that's what has to happen with the.

[00:42:07] Just ask for a replacement therapy for sure. So Len go to your p.m. Box and bring that to your doctor friends and there are no studies that I could find quickly that link varicose veins to a higher propensity to blood clotting and that's because that's because there's nothing to do with each other.

[00:42:21] Okay. So Darcy Clark, I'm going to roll all of his questions up here. He says. Do you feel it's best if you inject your testosterone everyday Sub-Q like insulin for the best results, or he said same weekly total dose just doing it daily. Just more frequent dosing and thus more stable blood levels.

[00:42:44] And then he also threw in there. I am versus Sub-Q so you can weigh in first. I'm actually going to intramuscular. I'm going back to intramuscular, but I'll tell why. So we there's there's a couple things that even I know this isn't [00:43:00] part of it but like the testosterone cream thing to the people say it's got to be scrotal right?

[00:43:04] I've never ever advised. I never would and none of our doctors have ever recommended someone doing something like that. Why because it works the other way and we don't want to cause any problems and then let's be clear about something. We do know early on testosterone cream was put on scrotal E A lot of doctors thought it made sense, but it converts way way it you produce a whole lot more DHT course, there's a lot more 5-alpha reductase in the scrotum to convert more of that testosterone into DHT and some people said they didn't want higher DHE.

[00:43:40] They didn't want male pattern baldness and oily skin. So that's that's a consideration too. Right and so for us that we don't advise Sub-Q for anybody and in the purpose that we don't is that we want to make sure that. Doom is [00:44:00] little yeah, I'm not sure if you've ever no scar tissue or we've had guys, you know, it's one thing when you're doing a water-based subcu injection, but when you're doing a really nice and gently does it it messes is it with the fat cells and causes?

[00:44:14] Yeah, it can leave some issues Islam and that can cause some prop right? And so here's here's what we don't want is is it is it a good method or in theory a pretty good method sure. There's also different. What's your skin? Look like are you are you overweight? Are you kind of are you you know pretty fat or you pretty lean most kind of things and then the factor of like what's if two years from now, you have all these tiny little deposit leftovers from the body didn't absorb.

[00:44:46] The Ester that is in the it's because it can happen to like that. There's little tiny. Grains of stuff could be left behind or you have all these little deposits right that the body just didn't react to and now guess what we're [00:45:00] you're not happy with us. Well, we know the intramuscular process works well, and if you want if you want daily go to cream if you want daily go to cream.

[00:45:08] That's it. A lot of people have a lot of people I think the problem a lot of people have with cream is like oh but it's such a low dose. You can get cream. That's 20 percent concentrated. I would I would tell you this. So now let's just say average client the doc will start out at like 200 milligram cream two pumps in them at 20% to pumps in the morning to at night.

[00:45:30] Right and I would say 15 percent of those people. We have to drop the dose right including, you know, I have an ex ifbb Pro bodybuilder guy who's ran the whole gamut. And he was like that's a lot. I got to drop the dose. We have some guys in it that it doesn't work with we actually have to increase the dose and we find that it's sometimes it's a absorption issue and we may switch to cream with as it through a hybrid where they do they might do a small [00:46:00] amount of injectable testosterone in the cream or guys it travels and I want and I might and I actually that is something that I'm about to start experimenting.

[00:46:08] Because I like the cream the cream creates the daily pulse, but you got this Baseline of testosterone in you all the time. I like that. Actually we don't we call it the hybrid and it's where you're doing, you know, for example of a half CC of testosterone may be a Monday will say look at 15-8 and then you're doing.

[00:46:30] Instead of doing like the two pumps in the morning two parts at night would be the regular dose of testosterone cream. You might do one in one or just two before bed or something like that. We've experiment. Yeah, like I said that that's one of the things too that we always want the listeners are potential clients that to know is that we're going to try to solve that stuff with you like whatever works best for you.

[00:46:51] As long as you're healthy are rules are if you're healthy you're in charge meaning like we can track stuff if you're not healthy. We're in charge and we're going to get you healthy first, right if you [00:47:00] come over in your everything's jacked up. Well, we got to get you cleaned up first so that you can be healthy right in anybody that argues that were just like well, we're probably not going to our priorities are going to line, you know your health your health is our priority.

[00:47:11] If it's not yours, we may have a conflict of interest I so I have the truth of the matter is and I have to say this. Posthumously. 2010 I had dr. John Chrysler on the show and I told him that I was using Sub-Q and he told me it was a bad idea and I continued and I still do Sub-Q right now. I'm about to go back to intramuscular.

[00:47:40] Why okay, because. Number one. I'm starting to find those little bumps those little swollen spots in my skin and they're not going away fast. Number one number two. I made all of my strength gains and I made all of my physical changes. With [00:48:00] intramuscular injections twice a week Monday Thursday monday-thursday monday-thursday monday-thursday.

[00:48:05] I got tired of sticking my hips and my quads with needles so I haven't stuck a needle in my hip on my quad. And at least five years now because I've been doing Sub-Q. But I don't feel the same on the testosterone Sub-Q like I used to when I used to do an intramuscular and so I've decided that as the next chapter of my journey.

[00:48:34] I'm reintroducing things that worked for me before and one of the things that work for me before was monday-thursday shot and I'm going to start doing that again. I'm just going to but I am going to use a cream. Early in the morning to create a cyclical Spike that physiologically my body goes. Ah, we are where we belong because look at the nighttime it just just to throw something out there.

[00:48:59] [00:49:00] Potentially the nighttime dose may be a better fit it. I've tried it to help recovery and stimulates me before bad. See it doesn't want it hits me right around 4:00 in the morning, right? You know, if you know what I mean? Yeah, but. Yeah, so I mean, yeah the morning especially if you're going to get into a workout or something like that too and that at worst it and that's the thing like to the point of find out what works for you.

[00:49:27] And if you're healthy and works, right, you know, we talked as if your testosterone was up to 1500 and you're healthy and you feel amazing. That's that's great. If you're if you're stuffing was a 1500 and your blood pressure has gone up 25 points and your hemoglobin hematocrit have gone up. Stop the buck.

[00:49:47] Yeah, we gotta fix something right it so that's why we do those follow-up checks with with folks to get them all dialed in and then you know once we're there, They've been empowered to pay attention as well Darcy. I'm going to go back to [00:50:00] quads. My quads are meaty, and I've got lots of room in them and there's lots of places for me to move around in them.

[00:50:05] And I thought interesting my I'm afraid to go back into my hips and I'll tell you why I really like shoulder shoulders always been like I've never I've never been able to do a shoulder injection myself. I would rather do shoulder. I probably you know in my years of bodybuilding, I mean there's Day times or what.

[00:50:25] They didn't go by especially when I was getting competition prep. I'd probably done my quad three times in my life, but my hips. Shoulders though guy. I would be embarrassed to figure out and the reason just my legs. I don't know if it's just they're so tight it's sensitive but I've never any time.

[00:50:44] I've done it. It's like a you know, Charlie I get like three days. It hurts. Yeah oh God my quads never bother me, but every now and then I would hit a nerve in my quad. So once you know, first of all, I don't Dart the needle a lot of guys like darn it. I just I just push it [00:51:00] slowly slowly slowly in and every now and then I'd get it in and I'd.

[00:51:05] Nerve and the muscle would start dancing in the needle would be a car like this every now and again. Yeah, we stars have a saying that, you know, go really really slow and then when you're going really really slow. Slow down and go slow right and in it, you can pull it out fast. Yeah less damage like that.

[00:51:24] I caught the angry nurse, right? It just like jam this thing in there like the hell you doing that and I did that early on and I was like, that's when they heard I was like damn why did I do that? And and and and the other thing is that I use my quad my hips for so long. I mean I used to put three mils in each hip twice a week.

[00:51:43] And now when I do my hips. This like pocket there must be pockets of blood in my hips from years of injecting because well I can tell you I can taste it in my mouth. I when I do the injection, it's like that Trend feeling it's like I can actually ask [00:52:00] them. It's actually hitting your it's hitting your bloodstream that quick but there's the scar tissue build up.

[00:52:06] Is is probably more of the product. That's what it is. It's a lot is a lot of scar tissue in my hips are going we go back. We reverse this conversation to the Cream side, you know a majority of our clients. They're not putting a needle. I had so many guys come over you got even less from your show that they love it.

[00:52:23] They love the theory of doing testosterone therapy, but they're like, dude. I'm not putting their like we heard you do the cream we want to work with you because you do the cream right? Because they're just they're not putting needle, you know, I mean, it's like. It's a talking about 6 to 15 or 16 year old virgin like it's scary.

[00:52:40] Right? And once you do it like it's not a big of a deal down the road. You're married all those kind of things but putting the needle in yourself is scary. Its Hey, listen how many years if I've been doing it to since 2007? It still freaks me out. Yeah, and it's that part of it, you know what I mean that.

[00:52:57] That holds people back and when they find [00:53:00] out their Solutions, even though you know, there's peptide Solutions now that that don't require injection. There's and doing the testosterone cream because most of our guys we put them on the cream in there. Oh my gosh, we're changing their life and they probably should have done it five or ten years ago, but they're just scared say don't want.

[00:53:16] Get the injection. They didn't want to go to the doctor's office once a week or every two weeks which most of them are lying and it's in its structure. You know, I have structured a lot of times that way is because that's how they can build their insurance church only let them go every two weeks.

[00:53:29] So that's when that's when it's going to work because that's what works for your insurance because you want to say. You know $100 over 90 days. It's crazy in my opinion, but when it comes your health, especially if you can afford it John Peaks likes it because he says it levels out the roller coaster ride of testosterone, you know ups and downs and that's true.

[00:53:46] So here's all I do. I want to take a last commercial break and when we come back, I want to wrap up the discussion. Testosterone and testosterone trt for diabetics and angiogenesis so that people can walk away with some decision-making power stay tuned stay tuned. [00:54:00] I saw the study you just sent me a therapeutic angiogenesis of adipose tissue derived stem cells using stem cells to help improve angiogenesis.

[00:54:10] Always well inside us throughout the entire body in obviously in the location where you inject the stem cells, we're going we're doing our first. Stem cell note seminars with similar Friday and Saturday next week and then to yeah, we're going it's it's party time the Sims stem cell space themselves party stem cell part.

[00:54:30] Yeah, that's that's a big that's what a baby. That's an embryo is a baby is a stem cell. Howard yeah, so well don't confuse the people Embrace but we're using the umbilical no, no, they're dead and they're getting stem cells from fat. I mean people who embryonic toys. I think it's like a bunch of aborted babies.

[00:54:47] You can I mean the stuff that people ask the questions. I'm like out. How do you think that how do you think that's what they do? You know what I mean? And obviously being a Christian guy we would not be okay with embryonic stem cells, but the the [00:55:00] idea umbilical stem cell tissue. I mean the stuffs just.

[00:55:03] That's man. I mean people that need help getting off the couch Unison my business partner some of the patients he's helped you think of somebody just think of like, you know, you used to like to do your daily what you know something maybe your foot that you who knows it stem cells could help that but you know story I just saw yesterday this woman who is her husband would do their walks every day.

[00:55:23] Every morning was like the people in your neighborhood you were talking about and she couldn't anymore like her Hood was. I'm sorry me was just giving honour and she just didn't want she already had that surgery didn't want to do it again and they did stem cells and like within three weeks. She's walking again before she had to get help off the out of a chair couldn't get out of a chair in her own and now she's now it's like I think six months he had her he's doing these follow-up, you know videos because it helps for a marketing standpoint to but she's back then three mile walk every day.

[00:55:56] Right like the minute I get in your life back and it's pretty it's amazing [00:56:00] stuff. But the what we see two of the IV stuff with it can help what with the heart and everything like that with the end in angio Genesis. So and in summary from the study that we started out talking about today. You should not be afraid of testosterone replacement therapy.

[00:56:18] Your doctor should not be afraid now. There are some caveats right? So if you've had a cardiac ischemic. What you have to worry about? isn't so much of what the testosterone is going to do to your heart as much as what it's going to do to your. Mine and what I mean by that is that all of a sudden you're going to feel good and you're going to think you know, I can run up those stairs.

[00:56:41] No, you can't you haven't done it in 30 years. You can't you think you can you feel like you catch a big one. You gotta go slow and like even with sex, you know, it's like if you haven't had sex in two years and all of a sudden you're like, wow. Look at this thing I have here. This is my old toy and you know if you can't look, [00:57:00] If you can't walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded then you shouldn't be having sex yet.

[00:57:06] Even though the machineries working, right? So, you know, don't be stupid. Don't be stupid. It's a good brings up a good point in what we can talk about with our clients is that we don't want it. You don't want this overnight Incredible Hulk Superman stuff that doesn't it never all good what you want.

[00:57:26] Is that settle like. Waking up this morning erections every day now and I and I think I'll take a walk this morning like start there. I'm not that sore even like that stores. I usually am for my workout or you know, I found myself in a better mood man. I slept great last like we want these subtle changes that lifts your lifestyle up a little bit and then that it just starts compounding right as time goes you don't want this like because I got you know, they're like.

[00:57:55] Yep, what started yesterday didn't really notice much and I'm like what were you thinking you were going to like turn [00:58:00] into the Incredible Hulk and have sex with your wife for four hours and then go Squat and deadlift 600 pounds of what were you thinking? Yeah, it does it work and you wouldn't want it to work that way, right, you know if it was super extreme and you're going to walk into the office and you know, freak out it's of yeah, look at that.

[00:58:16] Just you want the subtle change. That is all positive without the negative. Right and but the mind and Q the minds of funny thing, you know, all of a sudden you feel like I feel like I'm 25 again, but you're not don't you mean the study to study the study from like four or five years ago that they were asking for a black box warning on testosterone was done on men who had had angioplasty now who has angioplasty people who have heart.

[00:58:47] Why you don't you don't you don't go? Hey, I it's Wednesday. I think I'll have an angioplasty. No usually are admitted to the hospital. You having some sort of ischemic event and they're going to do an angioplasty. Okay. So those are the guys they put on [00:59:00] testosterone and those are the guys that ended up having heart problems on testosterone, but why because they had heart problems or red and and number two, they probably felt really good and they thought oh man, I feel good.

[00:59:13] I think I can run. No, you can't run schmuck. You just had a heart attack five months ago. You gotta go slow. Just because your brains telling you hey your 25 again. It's playing tricks on you. Right and then when you look in the dosing and how it was done that stuff's all variable to in those studies.

[00:59:30] And even our guys that have no we thought we have some clients have had heart attacks. Not while with us for prior to working with us and there's a lot of those guys we put on testosterone cream and there's so here is something you'll appreciate. I'm not going to name the clinic the doctors or anything, but I know I know us an attorney who is representing five nurse practitioners right now in a court case, the guy went to the clinic.

[00:59:57] He was with the clinic for like, I don't know year and [01:00:00] a half two years. They put him on HRT. The guy lost a hundred pounds change his life look different felt different was rocking and rolling his life great-great-great-great great-great-great has a heart attack and dies. Okay, so they want to blame the testosterone and there are so many other variables in this guy's life.

[01:00:26] But he lost a hundred pounds. His diabetes went away his cholesterol normalize all this stuff happened, but he was a big recreational Drinker, you know, see this is another thing right these guys did these guys they look great like you saw me with my shirt off. I look pretty good for 61 year old guy.

[01:00:42] They like, oh man, I'm gonna drink now I'm gonna drink I'm going to sit out on the boat. I'm gonna party I'm gonna party because I know dude you still 61 your body has been through a little bit like back off. You remind me of a story. I had a client who passed away in Mexico. We were kind of like we [01:01:00] got a call from his friend or like oh my God, you had a heart attack.

[01:01:04] It was scary right at the doctor. Like let's look at his file everything like that. Well with turned out as he's down in Mexico doing a bunch of cocaine with the guys like 52 with a bunch of. Twenty something year old party girls cocaine ecstasy all kinds of stuff like that will kind of you know, we never had any issue like once but you know, you still you're worried you're like now was there something we missed?

[01:01:27] No, we just was down in Mexico doing cocaine and ecstasy. Yeah crazy, but crazy just crazy party you picture like the crazy. Got a situation that it that's what happened and see that's what's wrong with. Oh God. Oh God herself. That's what's wrong with old guys Adam. They get they get to this point.

[01:01:47] They put a couple years in they look amazing. They feel amazing. So what do they think they can do? They can go back and trash their bodies. Oh, I can Trash my body now because I got it all in shape. No, dude. You're [01:02:00] still going to stroke. You're still going to have the heart attack. Yeah, yeah the bodies, you know, it's I tell people you're you're still gonna die one day and your body still is old as it is and it's going to be over tomorrow your choice is just how well you want to feel in that body.

[01:02:13] And that's what hormone therapy can really help out. Good story. Good talk. If you are type 2 diabetic talk to your physician about responsible trt. If your physician doesn't want to talk to you about it go to renew life RX.com and talk to Adam and his team. They won't do anything stupid with you.

[01:02:30] They will be honest about what you can expect and as long as you don't do anything stupid like go to Mexico and stop doing blow with the 26 year old girls. You'll be okay, honey. Death you'll be okay. Good good talk. I brother. I'll talk to you in two weeks, I guess. All right. Take care. Yeah, and I'm off the air tomorrow.

[01:02:50] I'm normally I would be doing come at me bro, but I got a lot of back work to do because this eye has really hobbled me so we'll see everybody Monday. We have a good show Monday. See you

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