[00:00:00] [00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. Today is Thursday. This is the ReNew Life RX show and we're bringing a new clinician to the table ReNew Life RX is hired somebody to do some of the things that really weren't being done properly. Well, let's say not offered. Previously, I don't have the ReNew Life RX music cued up, but I do have Ronnie Milo on with me and we're going to add him to the screen here.

[00:00:29] How you doing, Ronnie?

[00:00:31] Ronnie Milo: [00:00:31] Hey, good morning call. How are you buddy?

[00:00:32] Carl Lanore: [00:00:32] Wonderful. Wonderful. So Ronnie has joined the ReNew Life RX team to bring a completely new set of offerings to the table for existing. Clients as well as new clients coming aboard. So we figured we would showcase Ronnie so people understand who he is or going to call a Milo because actually he's best known as Milo and talked about his background [00:01:00] his pedigree so to speak but more importantly what he brings to the table to add a missing piece to the ReNew Life RX offering.

[00:01:08] So let's start in the beginning. Obviously. You're a fan of physical culture. Absolutely. Where did you start in this in this industry?

[00:01:17] Ronnie Milo: [00:01:17] So I started, you know, just kind of you know, any kind of any little, you know information that I could get from, you know from just a number of things that I've read before, you know, it was interested as a young child, you know father went to the gym.

[00:01:34] I was an athlete my entire life. You know, I played. Football baseball wrestled 12 pretty pretty pretty significant high school down here in South Florida called Saint Thomas Aquinas. Yeah, you know, it works really really didn't getting it too much into way train until Holly my senior year, you know was trying to figure out what I was going to do after high school.

[00:01:56] So After High School what happened played a little bit of. [00:02:00] Semi-Pro baseball some semi-pro football just trying to figure out what was going on and you know just banged around a little bit playing ball, but I was getting injured a lot. So I decided to hang that up and went to the fire academy and wanted to be a fireman big bad fireman put out fires Break Stuff safe safe, you know, people can

[00:02:17] Carl Lanore: [00:02:17] save lives.

[00:02:17] Yeah. Yeah, I know

[00:02:18] Ronnie Milo: [00:02:18] wasn't really really interested in the EMS side know the medical side of it, you know, but that in Florida, you know, it's integrated, you know, it's EMS and fire together, so, you know. Night time to turn if you call now and when you see in that fire engine in and out in an ambulance show up and you know, everybody on the rigs are you know, EMS train.

[00:02:37] So, you know what Through Fire School became a fireman and you know, probably 85 percent of the calls in Florida our EMS based, right so that

[00:02:47] Carl Lanore: [00:02:47] because there's a lot of old people in Florida.

[00:02:50] Ronnie Milo: [00:02:50] I don't know people on new construction, you know, yeah, let it a lot of fire prevention stuff here and especially of hurricanes down here.

[00:02:56] So there's a lot of. You know sprinkler systems houses with [00:03:00] smoke detectors and stuff like that. So so I found myself doing a lot of EMS calls and then I really started to understand medicine, right, you know what's going on with these patients and stuff and how can I bring a greater value to them, you know by the short time that we had with them, you know to get them to the hospital to get it in the correct care.

[00:03:20] So with that said, you know, I started to really understand medicine right an emergency side and I wanted to kind of Branch out a little bit more into my knowledge, you know, so I went ahead and continued some schooling, you know, got all the all the medical education that I could possibly get there.

[00:03:37] And then you know in that process, you know firemen down here in South, Florida. We did 24 on and 48 off which is one day on in two days off. So I had two days off to pretty much. Do you know what I wanted to do a lot of downtime so and I still you know, I've banged around playing some some baseballs and some football, you know plate some, you know softball for the firefighter Olympics played with the fire department team.

[00:03:59] We [00:04:00] played FDNY and ypd all those things and still still get hurt, you know to our hamstrings lots of ankles and as I got. I gotta figure out something else to do. This is this is going to tear on me, you know for a long time. So, you know, I was going to the gym twice a day and you know, I didn't know any better because you know, we need to add a practices for football baseball practice 430, you know, so that's that's what I knew so buddy my walked up to me and he says you know, what you getting ready for.

[00:04:28] So what am I getting ready for life? I'm getting ready for likes, you know, he's like no, I mean senior 2 times a day. You know you getting ready for a show and I'm like what's a show like you're here, but he's like body building was like talking about wearing underwear in front of people on stage.

[00:04:42] I'm like nah, that's not me. I'm a ballplayer, you know, so make a long story short he put that on my brain. I went home. I kind of did some research and I said, you know what I could do this, you know, so I went to the gym the next day and I said, hey, I'm going to take you up on that offer. You know, let's get ready for a bodybuilding show and he's like, okay, [00:05:00] let's go and.

[00:05:01] It's not a really consumer myself into the prep, you know for the bodybuilding show and I didn't know any better. You know, I just follow this lead, but I want to do a lot more research and how to just to bring my my physique up, you know to match up with these guys on stage. You know, I did it probably doesn't shows and I was very successful process.

[00:05:19] Obviously, you have to get into you know, the hormones and stuff like that to get to the next level. And I wanted to be very very meticulous and know what I was putting in my body and what it was going to do to me. So I did a lot of research in it. And you know, I got I got myself into so some good shape and you know did some shows and you know chasing the only luxurious Pro card as all young bodybuilders try to do and a buddy of mine actually got a hold of me.

[00:05:46] He says hey, you know, let me ask you a question. He goes. Do you want to be a professional bodybuilder not make money? What do you want to live a bodybuilding lifestyle make a lot of money and I was like, that's a good question. I said, I'll take number two, right?  [00:06:00] So with that said as a fireman, we didn't really get paid much.

[00:06:03] So I need to make you know, some supplemental income doing that. So because it's very expensive to do bodybuilding show, you know, you spend thousands thousands dollars, you know in the fire department when

[00:06:14] Carl Lanore: [00:06:14] your winners and you win a sword if you do when you

[00:06:16] Ronnie Milo: [00:06:16] do you want a plastic Trophy and then how you going to play a mortgage with a plastic trophy, you know, when your bank accounts negative, you know, 50 60 70 bucks, you know, so so what I was doing is I met a friend of mine who ran a supplement company in Central, Florida, and he was selling me.

[00:06:35] You know products for wholesale and I was turn around some to the fireman for retail and make some extra money to pay for food, you know pay for training sessions pay for tanning, you know stuff like that that I need to get by so I was going to this to this manufacturing facility every Friday at a Ford Ranger pickup truck and you know go every Friday with cash in my hand because got to pay me the fire.

[00:06:58] And you know, I pick up, you [00:07:00] know, a couple hundred dollars here a couple of hours there, you know every Friday I was there religiously if it was range shine, you know hail hurricanes I was there so I get there one day and I bang on the door and guy opens up and it says Hey so-and-so here and he says no he's not here and I'm like, oh man, I need my money must apply for the week and he's like, well, we'll come on in.

[00:07:19] So I went in and I met the Vice President of Sales. He says they listen sit down. What's up my troublesome? He says no, he says, you know, I see coming every Friday and he says you do more sales than some of our retail stores. Do you want a job? So do I want a job doing what he said sales? So I'm not a Salesman.

[00:07:37] I'm an athlete, you know, I'm trying trying to go pro right, you know trying to win that, you know with luxurious Pro card and and that's where you put it in my brain and I was like, oh, okay. So I said, I'll tell you what, I'll take you up on that offer, you know, he's like a paid ten bucks an hour and.

[00:07:51] You know coming answer the phones, you know, just start to learn the business and I was very blessed to sit next to a guy who had a biochemistry degree [00:08:00] from Central Florida. And he's very very smart and I listened to him talk on the phone and listen to him talk to clients about supplements and what the supplements did and I got really really intrigued with that and I started really learning, you know supplements and what it did in the body with my Ms.

[00:08:15] Background kind of came fairly easy. So, you know with that said, you know, that was my first element job. I was a banker on the subway this year about 15 years. My last stint was twin lab everybody knows twin lab and you know, they brought us into to help to bring back the Sports Nutrition, you know, because they were they were dominant in the Sports Nutrition world for a long time.

[00:08:36] They kind of fell off a little bit and you know, they brought us back to kind of help Rhea reinvent the wheel. So, you know a team of I went in there and work directly under the president of global Sports Nutrition and we get to help formulate some new products product development and stuff like that and actually helped with regional and national sales, you know through that and then in that, you know, I learned a [00:09:00] lot about you know supplements and then I still was learning about the hormones and then about that time I kind of.

[00:09:08] I was looking into peptides right? I wish to read on the boards. I'm sure you remember the board's, you know Pro muscle intense muscle and I ran across on peptides and I was like, well, this is curious because I you know spend a good amount of money and growth hormone and that wasn't really seeing much right.

[00:09:25] So I said, let me let me just try this. You know, I like to try everything, you know coming from the sports supplement industry. I'd like to try things before we sell to the market, you know, because if I like it then I can sell it and you know, I'm not one of those guys that sell snake. Right. So with that said is, you know ordered some peptides from overseas, you know, they showed up took a took a shot took an injection of in and what

[00:09:46] Carl Lanore: [00:09:46] were your first peptides that you ordered

[00:09:48] Ronnie Milo: [00:09:48] the first attempt.

[00:09:49] I was g h r p 6

[00:09:51] Carl Lanore: [00:09:51] and then and you know, if that's working because you get hungry his son of a gun if you take a nothing.

[00:09:55] Ronnie Milo: [00:09:55] I took his remember taking a shot in my kitchen and I didn't even make it out of my [00:10:00] kitchen before I started sweating and profusely starving to them, you know. I

[00:10:05] Carl Lanore: [00:10:05] guess that's how I guess everybody who's ever done GH rp6.

[00:10:08] Has that story? Yeah. She's

[00:10:11] Ronnie Milo: [00:10:11] over the time. She's like you're right. I'm like, I don't know my blood sugar crashed. I don't know. Why was

[00:10:15] Carl Lanore: [00:10:15] I was literally eating brewer's yeast out of the can with a bun and thinking to myself man. I wonder if you can make a bruise cheese candy with Bruges East and molasses.

[00:10:27] I'm just shoveling it in my mouth. And everybody knows that blue cheese tastes like ass, but I was so freaking hungry and I was washing it down with raw milk and the milk the brewer's yeast was falling back into the milk. It was a disgusting sight, but it was it was I was in that. Hunger frenzy mode of taking 250 micrograms of GH r p 6 which is a pretty high dose.

[00:10:51] Really when you think about

[00:10:52] Ronnie Milo: [00:10:52] it the big mind, you know, I read on the internet. It was like a hundred micrograms and I did the conversion calculator out trying to figure it all out the water and everything [00:11:00] that the bacteriostatic water and I mean, I ate the entire kitchen and it was you know, physically have to stop eating because my stomach felt like it was in explode.

[00:11:09] So I get up the next morning and I felt amazing, right? I was pumped from those vascular. I was always tight. I was like man, these are amazing. So I was like, I got to know everything about these peptides, right? So I went on the internet and start to research and research and then I started ordered more.

[00:11:24] I'm trying more try and you know, the GH R P2 and then the CJC

[00:11:28] Carl Lanore: [00:11:28] igf-1 long R3 meccano growth factor pegylated and non pegylated. I mean we went right everybody was like man these things are great. We got to get more of this stuff. Yeah,

[00:11:38] Ronnie Milo: [00:11:38] MK6 77. I mean, I mean, I must have tried every single one of you know until this day.

[00:11:43] I mean I go through this tailor-made catalog that we have here and I go and I try every peptide, you know from from A to Z just to see. What the effects that I have so I can relay that to the extent

[00:11:52] Carl Lanore: [00:11:52] you got and that's important you have to you have you know, when I went to school for Optometry. I was already wearing contact lenses, but we had [00:12:00] a fit each other with contact lenses.

[00:12:01] So we would understand what a patient would go through first trying to put it on how it feels in the eye. So you have two people who do this stuff, but don't try it that they don't know anything. They just don't know anything.

[00:12:14] Ronnie Milo: [00:12:14] Yeah, I mean obviously experimental higher dosages and lower dosages to see what the effects are, you know, so when the when like, you know clients call me they're like, hey, I got my hands are tight, or I'm drug in the morning-room busy during the day.

[00:12:26] I know what it is that I can make the adjustment accordingly to their symptoms, you know.

[00:12:30] Carl Lanore: [00:12:30] All right,

[00:12:31] Ronnie Milo: [00:12:31] so, you know, so I started using peptides on you know, sediments all my friends in the gym about these peptides and they started using on it was it was it was pretty fun actually, you know at the time.

[00:12:41] So around I think about 2017. I started to see the decline in the nutritional space, you know, brick and mortar location with what supplements, you know with the with the overtaking of Amazon and everything and I really kind of felt out of passion with the with the supplement [00:13:00] industry and I was kind of looking for another adventure I guess if you'd say.

[00:13:03] So what I was doing is I went in the process. I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do, right? I knew I'd like medicine. I knew I'd like to know interaction with patients and stuff and helping them feel better. So I took a couple people on personal training, but but to go back when I was in fireman, the they had a process which they took about a dozen of us off shift and they can negate of us a class for two weeks for the AC.

[00:13:31] So I got AC certified and what we would do is we would run a training center that we had. We're big into the physical culture and physical fitness with the fire department because help alleviate, you know, workman comp claims, you know help with people with sickness, you know calling out sick from work and you know, right what will you did is we got the ability to train all the new recruits that came in.

[00:13:55] All the people that were trying to qualify for the candidate Physical Agility [00:14:00] tests to help them pass that you know, so I had about a hundred people a day, you know training. This is wasn't just by myself. This is about a team of us about the six team of six of us. And you know, I really started to understand personal training and then I started to do that on the side to make some extra money.

[00:14:14] So that's where I got into into personal training and then, you know go fast forward to you know, what I was trying to figure out and what to do is I started to train some people. And through my connections, I got some some NFL Appliance and some major league baseball clients and stuff, you know recommended to me and that was working with them on a fairly good basis.

[00:14:35] Then I found a clinic down here that was offering this comprehensive blood panel testing, right and they tested everything from A to Z, you know, they tested heavy metals. They tested Pluto allergies. It says what

[00:14:46] Carl Lanore: [00:14:46] what did it cost to do that in depth of blood analysis?

[00:14:50] Ronnie Milo: [00:14:50] So it was a $5,000 test and then we ran it through insurance.

[00:14:54] So there was there was a bunch of different benefits from that as well. But the patient didn't have to pay nothing. Right

[00:14:59] [00:15:00] really

[00:15:00] Carl Lanore: [00:15:00] you got a $5,000 test to prove through Insurance you guys a magic that's again

[00:15:05] Ronnie Milo: [00:15:05] a good relationship we have with the lab. We brought them a lot of a lot of a lot of people.

[00:15:10] So what I was doing is I was taking my clients to go into into the clinic and I go in with them obviously and have them do the test and I would look at their food allergies to understand if I could build them a diet based on their food allergies, right if we can eliminate a lot of the inflammation processes, then we could have a high-functioning athlete that could be you know, that could be useful

[00:15:33] Carl Lanore: [00:15:33] Tom Brady

[00:15:35] Ronnie Milo: [00:15:35] exactly Tom Brady, right?

[00:15:36] Carl Lanore: [00:15:36] That's his whole diet is. To avoid foods that cause him inflammation,

[00:15:42] Ronnie Milo: [00:15:42] right? Absolutely. Absolutely. Now that was one of my main objective to because these guys were paying playing in these high, you know caliber organizations and they would send me their diet from nutritionist and I look at it.

[00:15:54] Like are you serious? You guys are eating sandwiches and your ranch dressing and I was like, this is this is [00:16:00] no this is no good. You can't even like this, you know. So I would go in the clinic with them and I'd start making friends with people the clinic and they were just start we would have conversations and they were talking to me and I'm like you guys do peptide therapy here and they're like, yeah we do but it's you know, there's nobody really

[00:16:14] Carl Lanore: [00:16:14] nobody.

[00:16:15] No. Nobody knows what to do, right?

[00:16:17] Ronnie Milo: [00:16:17] Yeah, exactly. So I'm like, well you guys do hormones, right and they're like, yeah. Well, how do you not do peptides if you're doing hormones and how who does the hormone so I met the position and young guy very knowledgeable and to this day. We're still good friends.

[00:16:30] And so I was in there one day and the owner was there and he says hey, can I talk to you like yeah, what's going on was like, you know heard a lot about you and we're looking for a wellness coordinator, you know, would you be interested in working here? And I was like, well, I don't know what a wellness coordinator is but you know, let's talk so I met the owners and everything was good and I got an opportunity to start really working in the anti-aging functional Integrative Medicine.

[00:16:56] And I got to I got was very blessed to work with two top [00:17:00] positions one was practicing medicine for 44 years. He's a big well-known name and then the other one was practicing for about two to three years, but they weren't really birth in peptides. And then that's where I came in kind of offered my services just as you know to tell them, you know what the peptides are and, you know educate them a little bit more so they could you know, understand and communicate that

[00:17:21] Carl Lanore: [00:17:21] how long ago was that that you work with them?

[00:17:23] I

[00:17:23] Ronnie Milo: [00:17:23] was there for about a year and a half and I just recently left to join the reader life RX team. And you know what when I started there I think we had about 36 HRT clients. Now when I left we had about 300

[00:17:37] Carl Lanore: [00:17:37] while nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I went out now you're actually International peptide Society trained clinician.

[00:17:46] When did you go for the IPS?

[00:17:49] Ronnie Milo: [00:17:49] So what we brought the medical director on Prop when I probably would say it's the for the first four months that I got there and he's we sat down and room and he was asking me all kind of questions [00:18:00] about peptides and I don't know I was answering them and then I know it I didn't make it up and it's home.

[00:18:04] I'm not familiar with that one and it was about 45 minutes of a kind of a tense conversation and then he turned over to the owner. He says he knows his stuff set him up with IPS. And I was like, oh, yeah, I've always I've heard IPS from your show and I was like, I want to be an IPS, you know.

[00:18:18] Alright, so set that up got everything going IPS and then I flew up to one that flew out but I drove up to 128 Forum events attended some of the some of the classes and stuff and

[00:18:28] Carl Lanore: [00:18:28] Florida this pageant. I was this past that was last year wasn't it?

[00:18:33] Ronnie Milo: [00:18:33] This was I want to say in May

[00:18:35] Carl Lanore: [00:18:35] this year? Yeah this year.

[00:18:37] Okay that way. Yeah. They're dr. Bill seeds put that one on.

[00:18:40] Ronnie Milo: [00:18:40] Yeah, so I'm a doctor. I know I'm a doctor bill seeds sent some of his lectures and met a bunch of the top positions in the country, you know just learned a lot of the peptide from them and then obviously, you know still doing ongoing research with the peptides just to make sure that I'm up first with it, you know, I stay up stay up till about midnight, you know studying these kind of peptides [00:19:00] obviously, so but that's that's where it takes me today and that's, you know, I got introduced with Adam in about probably January.

[00:19:07] Of this year and we stayed in constant contact over the years and then he called me up as a we need to come aboard and I said, okay. Well, let's talk and I agree with the philosophies that they do and I believe on the message and the way they treat the clients and I was I was a hundred percent of bored with them and we signed the lease on the contract and here we are today.

[00:19:31] Carl Lanore: [00:19:31] So what are the pieces of the puzzle that you're bringing? To renew life RX that will actually expand expand upon what their patients are seeing already and what their new clients that they sign up. We'll be seeing

[00:19:47] Ronnie Milo: [00:19:47] ya So Adam has a good knowledge on the peptides, but there were very limited on to the what they were, you know recommending to clients.

[00:19:55] And what I'm going to do is I'm going to come in and open up the door to more of the peptide [00:20:00] therapies, you know from. You know a tizzy, you know, they were doing probably about five five different peptides, you know service and now and now I'm going to come in I'm going to build up plans and I'm going to build out a bunch of different things to use from from anti-aging to hair loss to tendon ligament bone repair recovery, igf-1, you know, all the different type.

[00:20:23] I'm going to open up open up their door to the peptide therapy, and then I'll also help. With the HRT clients as well, you know for the customer experience

[00:20:33] Carl Lanore: [00:20:33] very good. I want to take a break and when we come back, I want to find out about some of the peptides that you feel kind of apply themselves to anti-aging and regenerative medicine and then we'll talk about some of the others that you are that you favor.

[00:20:48] Okay, you gotta and if you want to. Reach out and work with Milo. You can do it by going through a new life are x.com and using the phone number and email [00:21:00] information there to get started stay tuned. We'll be right back. Welcome back. We're talking with Ronnie Milo. He just goes by the name of Milo and why not pleased with Milo was a strong dude right back in Greek mythology.

[00:21:12] Isn't he the guy? Who who? Started lifting a baby bowl and as The Bull got older and he got older he kept lifting it and he just got progressively stronger.

[00:21:21] Ronnie Milo: [00:21:21] Yep. That's it.

[00:21:22] Carl Lanore: [00:21:22] Pretty cool story. So which peptides do you feel the most exciting right now in the area of regenerative medicine and anti-aging

[00:21:32] Ronnie Milo: [00:21:32] right now, I think test the Merlin is the top of it at the top of the chain right now.

[00:21:37] So there's a lot of those studies from that and you see a lot of good results anything with it, but the clients and. I think that's that's the I think that's the number one right now.

[00:21:48] Carl Lanore: [00:21:48] Why tests were Ellen over CJC 1295 and my audience knows when I talk about CJC 1295. I'm talking about with DAC because if it doesn't have DAC, it's just called growth hormone [00:22:00] releasing hormone white s Varela and over CJC 1295.

[00:22:04] Well, I think

[00:22:05] Ronnie Milo: [00:22:05] you know a lot of the female customers they want they want it for weight loss. Right? So it's a keys off of that misurata post issue. And I think that's the one of the major things. It's a quick fast that works in that in that specific area and people get results on them. So they you know, definitely they definitely like the the results of it.

[00:22:29] You know gah. Orangey, hrh is MGH RPS. Obviously there are longer play. So you have to be online for consistent basis to see any kind of different body composition changing but I think somewhere around you know, you run it for 60 to 90 days. We'll start to see your body composition change. So, you know people like quick fixes, you know, so I think that's you know, that's the major major one right now.

[00:22:51] That's so

[00:22:51] Carl Lanore: [00:22:51] how would you how would you use test Marilyn? So my morning begins with a hundred micrograms [00:23:00] of J truck while no, that's not true. I use less now. I actually use about 60 micrograms of GH rp6 at about a hundred twenty micrograms of CJC. 1295. What I should I be using the test Merlin first thing in the morning instead and saving the other one for the other two for post-workout.

[00:23:20] Yeah, I mean

[00:23:21] Ronnie Milo: [00:23:21] there's two there's two different ways to take the test realm there's you could take the one milligram. It's one milligram a day take one milligram in the morning. Obviously if it affects sleep you would take it in the morning. If not, but it does best well at night before bed. 

[00:23:36] Carl Lanore: [00:23:36] So I'm taking way too little so so the appropriate dose is the one that they prescribed when it was called egress or Egret for.

[00:23:48] Individuals who were combating AIDS and that was 1 to 2 milligrams at a time.

[00:23:55] Ronnie Milo: [00:23:55] Yeah. So the recommended right now one milligram six days a week one day off.

[00:23:59] Carl Lanore: [00:23:59] Okay. Yeah,

[00:24:00] [00:24:00] Ronnie Milo: [00:24:00] you know and then you can do it up for 90 days, you know because you got to be careful to increase of igf-1 levels. We don't want your igf-1 will get too

[00:24:07] Carl Lanore: [00:24:07] hot to go too high right

[00:24:08] Ronnie Milo: [00:24:08] then you start to see a lot of different effects in the body.

[00:24:11] Carl Lanore: [00:24:11] Okay? Okay, so that's a good idea and. Do you like CJC 1295 and if so when and how

[00:24:23] Ronnie Milo: [00:24:23] so I personally like CJC 1295 I use that and I use that with epimer Ellen because if around doesn't give you the prolactin the cortisol response, it's a lower grade plus it doesn't induce hunger, you know, a lot of people can't can't to handle that hunger.

[00:24:40] You know all the all depends on your goals, but right now I do I Pema FM c JC before I train I do igf-1 right when I get up in the morning and I do if mcj see 15 to 20 minutes after I train and then I go ahead and you know have my post-workout meal and then I'll [00:25:00] do it. Probably, you know, two or three hours before bed.

[00:25:05] Is that you Fred before I go to bed.

[00:25:07] Carl Lanore: [00:25:07] Yeah. Well, I guess you'd get away with that. You're young. If I stop eating at 6, I sleep so much better. If I even if I eat two hours before going to bed, I don't sleep as well.

[00:25:19] Ronnie Milo: [00:25:19] If I don't eat before I go to bed. I will wake up at 2 o'clock in the morning ravenous, you know trying to eat, you know, everything in the house even dog food,

[00:25:25] Carl Lanore: [00:25:25] but see I would submit to you that you are showing signs of metabolic and flexibility.

[00:25:30] I would say back to you, but that's okay. I mean, you know, you're still building a strong body. I know you train hard. You're a big guy very muscular guy, but for me, if I can't if I wake up in the middle of the night hungry because there was a date look.  Back in the day when I was training very hard and heavy I was using lots of drugs that to a.m.

[00:25:52] Wake up gave me a chance to shake some water into a bottle of protein powder throw it down and then go back to sleep. So I invited that. [00:26:00] Like now that I'm 61 years old and I don't want to develop Alzheimer's disease. I understand the importance of not being hungry in the middle of the night. So you when your goals changed and these things change, but with that being said, have you ever use 3 to 5 grams of glycine before bed ever?

[00:26:21] Ronnie Milo: [00:26:21] I don't think I've

[00:26:22] Carl Lanore: [00:26:22] have okay, so I would challenge you to do this because this will be another arrow in your quiver. When you come across people who are metabolically and flexible and they're not bodybuilder types. If you take 3 to 5 grams of glycine tonight before bed capsules are expensive, but you can get them at GNC or vitamin shop.

[00:26:44] But if you take 3 to 5 grams of glycine tonight, right a bedtime, you know, take it throw it in your mouth swish some water go to sleep. You will not wake up in the middle of the night hungry and here's why. Glycine is the most [00:27:00] gluconeogenic of all the amino acids. However, it does not convert to glucose unless the body needs it to so what happens is as you sleep and blood sugar starts to drop the body needs to wake up the adrenal glands to create blood.

[00:27:23] That's why you wake up at 2 o'clock in the morning because now the adrenals are awake. They actually blunt and suppress melatonin and they are daytime hormones. They wake you up if you take that 3 to 5 grams of of glycine before bed when blood sugar starts to drop your liver will start turning it right into glucose and your blood sugar will stabilize and you will not wake up.

[00:27:48] try. I would love to hear your feedback and this is ideal for people so.  One of the hardest things I have when someone reaches out to me and they're [00:28:00] not well and they want to get well and we sought to address metabolic flexibility because most of the time they're already insulin-resistant, you know, the morning fasted blood sugar levels are in the 120s 130s.

[00:28:11] I'm like, well got to change that and they always tell me if I don't eat right before bed. I don't sleep all night or. They tell me that they wake up in the middle of the night eating like I got to go downstairs and I have to eat. Oh, I can't go back to sleep. And as soon as I tell him to do Street to 5 grams of glycine before bed, they'll reach out to me the next day and they'll go that's the first night.

[00:28:32] I've slept all night long in like five years. I said, yeah. I know it's amazing secret. It's not really a secret a lot of people know about it, but it's worth giving a try because eating at night shuts down on top of G in the brain. That's not that's not a great thing for us older guys, you know, that's not a good thing for us.

[00:28:53] But anyway, what about some of these more [00:29:00] exciting you and I talked about PT 141 off-the-cuff line. Let's talk about that. Do you have patients that you think Petey 141 would be a good idea for them. Maybe they're losing their libido or something like that.

[00:29:16] Ronnie Milo: [00:29:16] Absolutely, and that's that's one of the peptides that I want to to bring to, you know renewal FRX is you know, basically, you know, what I do is when I do a screening process with the with the with the clients, you know, I do a full kind of Lifestyle assessment, you know, and if it does lead down the path that they are having libido issues and stuff like that and then I would go ahead and recommend that you know, the PT 141 Salon 141 sons of try.

[00:29:40] The old Clinic that I came from we really didn't have a lot of people, you know with with libido issues and if they did, you know the position with describe them Cialis or Viagra, I mean, so I wanted to start to bring the PT 141 to that to that clinic, but then, you know, obviously got the opportunity with the new life, so I want to start to [00:30:00] implement, you know.

[00:30:01] What we're throwing around some names of some Stacks right now and one of them is definitely going to be you know, libido enhancer or sexual enhancer or something like that. But yeah definitely want to bring into 140 144 a

[00:30:14] Carl Lanore: [00:30:14] lot

[00:30:14] Ronnie Milo: [00:30:14] of

[00:30:14] Carl Lanore: [00:30:14] so so you and I talked offline to I've experimented with a one milligram of PT 141 and night for five nights and the problem with it is.

[00:30:26] that. That normal nocturnal tumescent erections that men get at night that don't wake you up because they don't they're not driven by libido. They're driven by.  maintenance of the penis which happens to men all the time. They turn into libido driven erections and you'll have multiple arousal wakening throughout the night.

[00:30:50] But you said that you've had better success with one milligram every third day. Yeah, that makes sense to me because it lasts three days and you just want to you just [00:31:00] want to touch libido. You don't want to drive it. So I think that you're right. I think one milligram every third day probably is working.

[00:31:07] How's that working for you?

[00:31:09] Ronnie Milo: [00:31:09] I love it. You know I love it. It's it's working great for me. It doesn't affect my sleep at all, you know, and I'm ready to go ready to go for do some performance. It's ready to go. I mean, yeah, so. I do I do get a little bit of the flushing and the head a little bit of nausea, but I use the old trick of the baking soda before that.

[00:31:27] I got that view and you know that that helps out tremendously

[00:31:32] Carl Lanore: [00:31:32] and actually Alka-Seltzer gold is the best of all because as many of us know in order to take a bolus of baking soda, unless you've been taking baking soda every day for years like I have it doesn't really affect my stomach. I don't get the osmotic diarrhea.

[00:31:49] From a large dose of baking soda that most neophytes do but Alka-Seltzer gold is equal amounts of sodium bicarbonate potassium bicarbonate so you can actually get three [00:32:00] grams of bicarb without getting the runs and that seems to be the optimal dose for people who are sensitive to developing nausea from either Milano 10.

[00:32:13] For PT 141 and so yeah, it's really great. It's really really great. I don't get nausea from it. But one of the things I will warn people and.  so tailor-made makes PT 141 that is 100% nothing but PT 141 just about all of the peptide guys out there including the those with the best peptides in the world American-made highest tolerances.

[00:32:44] Have a little little bit of melanotan to in them because not all of it is PT 141. Some of it is Milano tend to

[00:32:51] Ronnie Milo: [00:32:51] they can isolate it.

[00:32:53] Carl Lanore: [00:32:53] They well when they make it CC tailor-made has pept [00:33:00] they have amino acid sequences that actually build the peptides. All these other companies are buying. peptides are making peptides using the recombinant method which depends on certain forms of E coli and basically in the simplest terms, you feed the E.coli these amino acids in it poops out these these strands which are basically peptides.

[00:33:25] Ronnie Milo: [00:33:25] That's our growth hormones me

[00:33:27] Carl Lanore: [00:33:27] right? Well as we all know. Growth hormone, the highest quality still has a certain amount of aggregate in it. Maybe 1% of it is not growth hormone. It's broken fragments of growth hormone. It's it's not growth homeowner all it's just random sequences of amino acids.

[00:33:46] And the more of these Aggregates you have the higher the probability that your body will actually start to develop an immune response to your own growth.

[00:33:56] Ronnie Milo: [00:33:56] Slowly I'm actually had experience with that. I have two people had [00:34:00] severe allergic reactions to some bunk up peptides. 

[00:34:04] Carl Lanore: [00:34:04] You go. So what happens with the PT 141 is that lets say 99% of it is PT 141 one percent of it is something else.

[00:34:15] And that's something else Tan's you. Not as like like if I do II did six milligrams of PT 141 just to see what would happen. And of course what I thought have would happen happen. Eliza didn't think it was funny. But yeah, I had a spontaneous direction that lasted about 10 hours.

[00:34:38] Ronnie Milo: [00:34:38] Like you're in two years old again.

[00:34:40] Carl Lanore: [00:34:40] And yeah, it was like the first time I penis got hard when I was a kid exactly and but it was a wonderful experience. It was like, oh my God, this is like wow, you can still get those youthful erections that literally like have their own pulse and everything. It was like amazing. But the problem is that at that six milligrams.

[00:34:58] I did was [00:35:00] kind of like doing a hundred 250 micrograms of Milano 10 to I got dark from it.

[00:35:05] Ronnie Milo: [00:35:05] I bet yeah I bet you did.

[00:35:07] Carl Lanore: [00:35:07] So be forewarned that if you can get your PT 141 prescribed. By your physician or ReNew Life RX that the PT 141 you're going to get may give you some flushing but it goes away you won't get tanner and you know, you know, I mean women women will use it but if they start getting darker their mole start getting darker, they're like, oh my God, I don't like this.

[00:35:33] I don't want my molds to get darker. So you really want legit PT 141. This is one area that you absolutely. Don't want to cut Corners because you'll start getting darker and if you want to use it every weekend it goes you start to think stuff cheat though. I really want to do any of this weekend. I don't want to get any darker than I am right now.

[00:35:53] Ronnie Milo: [00:35:53] And that's what all are baptized from TaylorMade. So it's a hundred percent. [00:36:00] Efficacy.

[00:36:00] Carl Lanore: [00:36:00] Have you been there?

[00:36:01] Ronnie Milo: [00:36:01] I have not but I've met them at the a forum in there. I used to use them a lot at the old Clint that I was at. So I had a good relationship with them. It's all pharmacists in the compounding pharmacist before and they're sober up and you know, they're they're a great bunch of group over there.

[00:36:16] Carl Lanore: [00:36:16] Do you know that I have convinced Ryan Smith to look into creating an injectable ectis their own product?

[00:36:23] Ronnie Milo: [00:36:23] Oh really?

[00:36:24] Carl Lanore: [00:36:24] So have you seen the research recently? That was put out. By a laboratory wada paid to have a study done to find that effect. I stare on really does anything to increase performance and muscle strength because they want to know whether or not to add it to the banned substances list, right and they used a neck D made from spinach, which is not a superior form.

[00:36:49] Right. I've actually are on sign out is Varga is not of Agatha is not a superior form, you know respond to come card employed extract is what the original Russian studies were [00:37:00] done with and that is a superior form of equity. So they used a sub standard form of acting and at forty eight milligrams a day and they saw a dramatic changes in protein synthetic response and strength in a very short period of time and and they advised water too.

[00:37:19] Added to the banned substances list. So I happen to be communicating with Ryan about something else and I said have you seen this study?  And I said this would be great for anti-aging clinics because they're not want that. They don't care about water but here's something that is not an anabolic steroid that if it was made into an injectable Sub-Q because it could be done in an aqueous.

[00:37:42] You guys would love this wouldn't you love it? When you love to be able to take a hundred milligrams of XD a day and watch your body grow

[00:37:50] Ronnie Milo: [00:37:50] sign me up. I'm the first one to try it.

[00:37:53] Carl Lanore: [00:37:53] So he's very in fact, we were texting yesterday about it. He is I gave him, you know gave him some really solid information about raw [00:38:00] materials and you know, and now we just need to make a injectable, you know, sterile injectable version of.

[00:38:08] And and and I predict that tailor-made will have a sterile injectable version of of activist Erin probably by the end of the year. I'll bet money on it.

[00:38:20] Ronnie Milo: [00:38:20] Yeah, he's a guy that probably get it done. So yeah

[00:38:22] Carl Lanore: [00:38:22] Ryan's great rides like, you know Ryan I love Ryan because he's a lot younger than me, but I his inquisitiveness is his greatest strength, you know, I mean, it's just amazing.

[00:38:36] Yeah, so I'm hopeful about that. I'm hopeful that we're going to see that pretty soon. We're gonna take a quick commercial break all last one and then we'll come back and we'll continue talking with Milo from ReNew Life RX go to renew life RX.com today sign up get with the best group in America.

[00:38:53] That will help you stay young and strong longer than anybody else out there. Stay [00:39:00] tuned. So my. My post on Facebook and Instagram is getting great great results. I took a picture of a coffin because you know that there's an app going around right now that makes you look older. Right and so like I'm already old.

[00:39:19] Yeah. So what would this app do for me? I was thinking and I thought oh would probably put a picture of a coffin up there. So I put a picture of a cough it up and I put I just use that app that makes you look older and here is what it returned and apparently people think it's pretty funny. I put a picture of a nice wooden.

[00:39:36] Ronnie Milo: [00:39:36] That's all

[00:39:37] Carl Lanore: [00:39:37] that's that's me older. That's all I'm already old be older is dead. That's what they call it.

[00:39:42] Ronnie Milo: [00:39:42] Well, let's let's keep you around for a lot longer how

[00:39:44] Carl Lanore: [00:39:44] I intend to I'm not going anywhere. Trust me.  So I have talked about I don't know if you remember the show that I did about three or four years ago.

[00:39:55] That was it was done on rodents.  It was a woman who came on the show. So [00:40:00] they took young rodents and old rodents and. They injured the quadricep muscle in both one group of the old rodents. They Infuse them with oxytocin and the other group they did not and then they sacrificed all the rodents and they said that the young rodents the muscle injuries healed up very quickly.

[00:40:31] the old rodents. The muscle injuries didn't heal up hardly at all the old rodents that would give an oxytocin the muscle injuries healed up completely even faster than the you grow tits. Do you remember that that interview?

[00:40:48] Ronnie Milo: [00:40:48] Yeah, I think I knew because I looked into oxytocin after you said that and yeah, I remember that.

[00:40:53] Carl Lanore: [00:40:53] Okay. So the problem with oxytocin is it comes as an injectable [00:41:00] peptide called? Pitocin and unless it's in an IV bag administered at 10. I use a minute in order to bring on labor in a pregnant woman. It actually causes dilation and labor to cover quickly.  Because oxytocin has specific effects on smooth muscle and muscle in general.

[00:41:25] It relaxes it. So I'm 10 I use this nothing I mean. I told Bill seeds about this and I started experimenting with it right after that show. I got my doctor to write me a prescription for pitocin. I started at 10 I use post workout. I tried ten I used before bedtime. I didn't notice anything and feel anything different then recently more recently.

[00:41:49] I stopped using it about five months ago. I found oxytocin in a 5 milligram. [00:42:00] So one milligram of oxytocin is 500 I use that thing about I was taking 10 I use at a time not noticing anything not even sleep wise so.  I just started experimenting with oxytocin again, but I'm you doing 100. I use post-workout.

[00:42:22] I've actually taken as much as 250. I used you don't want to do that. 250 I use raise my blood pressure made my head feel like it was going to burst for about for about 10 minutes made me feel horrible horrible hundred I use I feel a little wonky for about two or three minutes, but then it's gone and taking 50.

[00:42:47] I used before bed puts me in like a coma really. So I think that I'm going to continue to use it. At these what it considered higher doses for humans [00:43:00] and see what happens. What do you what are your thoughts you have any thoughts on this

[00:43:04] Ronnie Milo: [00:43:04] not really versed in the oxytocin haven't really looked into it as much as we didn't really sell it a lot the clinic.

[00:43:09] I mean, I read some studies on it. Nothing to really no spark my interest on it, you know, so I'm not not very burst on the oxytocin for let me know what how you think. I might take it myself.

[00:43:21] Carl Lanore: [00:43:21] Also this past Sunday. I took my first dope dose of rapamycin.

[00:43:27] Ronnie Milo: [00:43:27] Oh, that was

[00:43:29] Carl Lanore: [00:43:29] that I didn't I didn't feel anything.

[00:43:30] I slept really good that night. I don't know if it was because of that other circumstances that occurred so.  Dr. Blackest Colonia is about to release a new paper. He sent it to me the other day to take a look at it's an interesting paper about rapamycin fasting in the ketogenic diet.

[00:43:50] So. I told him that I'm taking two milligrams, which is the suggested anti-aging dose and I'm [00:44:00] going to start out once a week for the first three months.  The magic behind rapamycin is misunderstood by all of those out there who promoted I've heard guys like Peta Atia telling people, you know, you got to take it every day.

[00:44:15] It's all about suppressing mtor. It's. It's not not not not everybody's got this wrong. I'm sorry and there's a lot of doctors out there who are going to say.  What the f do, you know, you know we are out here doing the science. So it's not about mtor. And in fact, it's another reason why I continue to say that that taking glucophage metformin fancy aging is is a huge mistake.

[00:44:45] And we're seeing it play out. Now. We're seeing people who've been taking it for a couple years.  They're getting fatter.  They're developing more adipose tissue and and there's a high prevalence for soft tissue [00:45:00] injuries for some reason and people were taking about oxytocin long-term. And now there's some worrisome studies coming out about things that it does to the gut that things that it actually I just read a study and I.

[00:45:16] Have the gist of it. I just remember sending it to dr. Seeds and going look more bad news for chronic glucophage users. And this this idea of suppressing mtor continuously to make you live forever is misguided. It's not about that as black as glowny discussed on my show. It's not about mtor. It's about these drugs and there's a class of them of which rapamycin is one having the ability to turn senescent cells back into quiescent cells because senescent [00:46:00] cells produce harmful chemicals that poison the cells around them and make them sit.

[00:46:05] It's like you got a room full of people you put a guy in the middle of the room that has tuberculosis and in about a week everybody in the room. We'll have tuberculosis.  So what rap a myosin does has nothing to do with mtor has all to do with other Pathways that seemed to flip a switch in cells that have already become senescent but didn't know enough to die to stop being.

[00:46:32] Once they're not senescent as black as glowny talks about Itachi can take back over and get rid of them.  Because senescent cells lose the ability to die. They become a zombie cells. So you got to turn them back into normal functioning cells first. So the autopsy clock can kick back in and get rid of them as metabolic debris, but it has nothing to do with them, too.

[00:46:57] It's not really what I'm tour. It [00:47:00] may have to do with search engines may have and it just so happens that things that affect search who in the seem to also be driven by blood sugar.

[00:47:12] You know and this is where it gets murky. This is why everybody thinks well, you just said it's blood sugar glucose are no. No, it's not just that I did a show in 2007. I believe it was.  The first show of its kind that showed. That glucose signaling.  Is what causes cells to become senescent?  But it's but glucose signaling also affected clotho.

[00:47:40] And clotho was thought to it made C elegans live 30% longer, but now understanding that clotho is elevated in type 2 diabetics cloth those not helping them live longer. So you see folks. It's not cut and dry. It's just not it's not like anything that lowers sugar will make you live longer. No, it's not that simple.

[00:48:00] [00:47:59] It's just not but I just did my first dose of rapamycin. I'll do another one this Sunday the days that I do rap in my eyes, and I stay fasted.  And the days I do rapamycin I don't train because it does blunt mtor. So I don't want to go in there and and train and Shut Em tore off and then. Be two days in and not and not recovered.

[00:48:21] How

[00:48:22] Ronnie Milo: [00:48:22] long are you fasting when you do the first the whole day the whole day 24 hours of 16?

[00:48:27] Carl Lanore: [00:48:27] Well, no 24 hours. I don't eat that day until the next day. Okay, so technically the whole day. Yeah, and I may not even do that forever. I mean, I'm just doing that right now just because it's convenient for me.

[00:48:40] It's easy for me to fast on Sundays because we stay so busy around the house. But I'm going to do rapamycin 2 milligrams once a week for three months. Now. I'm in communication with people who are using rapamycin even longer and consistently everybody that using it tells me that after a [00:49:00] couple months of using it their endurance increases noticeably and that makes perfect sense because when your cells are trying to function with all this metabolic way, you know you when you were a kid.

[00:49:14] Did you ever stick a pepper potato and somebody's tailpipe?

[00:49:17] Ronnie Milo: [00:49:17] Absolutely.

[00:49:18] Carl Lanore: [00:49:18] They stopped the car the car runs. Okay, right and they but then they sit there for a little while all of a sudden the engine starts going to vote for that is because there's the metabolic waste builds up and nothing good can happen anymore in that engine.

[00:49:32] Well the same thing happens to your body the older you get you develop all this metabolic debris interestingly enough. I have a see that shows. Now it's a chicken and egg question at this point. I'm senescent cells seem to bio accumulate iron at a much higher rate than healthy cells now.  Is it because the iron is turning them into senescent cells?

[00:49:55] I got a feeling that's what it is. I really do I think iron is part of the [00:50:00] problem and we talked about that on the show. Now for a couple of years first show we did about that was with dr. Michael Smith probably eight years ago about donating blood but interestingly enough metabolic waste may have more to do with.

[00:50:17] What we consider aging like slowing down and age-related diseases and not being strong and and cartilage and soft tissue breaking down iron does all of those things by itself. So metabolic debris building up anything that you can do that reduces the metabolic debris. I predict will end up reversing aging now, what are those things donate blood regularly,

[00:50:40] Ronnie Milo: [00:50:40] you know

[00:50:41] Carl Lanore: [00:50:41] things like rap a myosin intermittent fasting.

[00:50:46] Reducing the accumulation of these metabolic debris while reducing the intake of them at the same time. These are my theories I'm working on right now.

[00:50:56] Ronnie Milo: [00:50:56] We're done oxidation to

[00:50:57] Carl Lanore: [00:50:57] what's.

[00:50:58] Ronnie Milo: [00:50:58] Slowing down [00:51:00] oxidation.

[00:51:00] Carl Lanore: [00:51:00] Well, of course iron iron is the single most octaves oxidative thing in our bodies when we talk about antioxidants and we talked about reactive oxygen species and we talk about you know, the way these what's the word I'm looking for.

[00:51:18] The electrons that spin off and cause a lot of damage with iron is that is the biggest the biggest pro-inflammatory and the biggest oxidative stress molecule in our body. It's basically a splinter of rust and every cell

[00:51:36] Ronnie Milo: [00:51:36] right and that's how I explain to our clients. You put your bicycle outside for about three or four months and it turns rust that's what happened internally.

[00:51:42] Yeah. Well you put a banana on the counter turn. Yes, oxidative

[00:51:46] Carl Lanore: [00:51:46] stress right? So yeah, I started my rapamycin therapy. I'm going to do it for a couple months before I really say I notice anything but everybody I know that's doing it. Most of them are doing it because of this show and I'm like, oh, I'm the big [00:52:00] pussy right?

[00:52:00] I'm tell everybody else to do but I haven't done it yet. I'm doing it now.

[00:52:04] Ronnie Milo: [00:52:04] Yeah, let me know how it goes. I'm interested in

[00:52:06] Carl Lanore: [00:52:06] and that is something that your clinic can offer to because I get my rapamycin by prescription from TaylorMade.

[00:52:14] Ronnie Milo: [00:52:14] All right, very

[00:52:15] Carl Lanore: [00:52:15] easy stuff. Did we miss anything Milo?

[00:52:19] Ronnie Milo: [00:52:19] No, I think we're good.

[00:52:20] I think we're good. I think we covered everything.

[00:52:21] Carl Lanore: [00:52:21] How can people reach you specifically to work with you over at ReNew Life RX?

[00:52:27] Ronnie Milo: [00:52:27] Yeah, we go to renew life RX website and I'll ask you, you know, if you want to talk to one of us go ahead and enter information and we'll get all the information and I'll go ahead and talk to them email them or call them

[00:52:40] Carl Lanore: [00:52:40] so they actually specifically say in the form that they want to talk to him to Milo.

[00:52:44] Ronnie Milo: [00:52:44] They can yeah, they can good

[00:52:46] Carl Lanore: [00:52:46] good. Well do that folks in if nothing else say hello to Milo. Let him know you heard him and saw him today on superhuman radio. And get to work staying younger.

[00:52:58] Ronnie Milo: [00:52:58] That's it.

[00:52:59] Carl Lanore: [00:52:59] Hi Milo. [00:53:00] Thanks for being here today brother.

[00:53:01] Ronnie Milo: [00:53:01] It was an honor and I had a lot of fun.

[00:53:03] Carl Lanore: [00:53:03] Thank you and we'll see everybody.

[00:53:05] Let's see you tomorrow is Friday. I don't have a show. I'm working on a really good show Monday if I can get the scientist to agree, but I'm off tomorrow and. I hope everybody else has a great weekend, and we'll talk to you next week.

[00:53:20] Thanks

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[00:53:38] lot.