[00:00:00] [00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. Do you realize I say hey at the beginning of every single show and when you consider that I've done over 2,500 shows. That's a lot of haze. I got to come up with something new to start the show. What so those of you listening email me at on are at superhuman radio dotnet and help me come up with something less tired than hey.
[00:00:23] Hey welcome. Like I'm open to suggestions. We have a good show today and it's about something that I really really am crazy about magnesium L3 and eight was discovered. I want to say about eight or nine years ago. It's a form of magnesium that's bound to vitamin C believe it or not and it crosses the blood-brain barrier and it is considered.
[00:00:46] A nootropic because early research showed that people with dementia benefited from supplementing with magnesium L 3 and 8, but of course, you know the folks that Live and Let Live on labs and never satisfied [00:01:00] with just the mundane and ordinary. They always have to improve everything. My guest today is Lucy Lightner.
[00:01:08] She's been on the show before. Hi Lucy. How are you?
[00:01:10] Lucy Leitner: [00:01:10] Hi, how are you today?
[00:01:11] Carl Lanore: [00:01:11] Wonderful. Wonderful. So let's start. Just talking about magnesium L3 and HS for a minute and what we know wait, let's start off talking about magnesium because statistics in this case indicate that the majority of the population is magnesium deficient talk about that first before we start talking about this unique form of magnesium.
[00:01:32] Lucy Leitner: [00:01:32] Yeah. So it's that's pretty well documented at least 50% of the view that the United States population one of the you know, where there's an abundance of food. That is deficient in magnesium. And this comes from a couple things. It's comes from a lack of magnesium actually in the soil which produces magnesium deficient crops, which means that you're not even getting the Magnesium that [00:02:00] you think you are.
[00:02:00] So
[00:02:00] Carl Lanore: [00:02:00] wait stop stop there. So people are going to say well why is magnesium depleted and so let's talk about commercial agriculture. They literally sapped the soil of but they only replace a few things they replace nitrogen they were. So sodium I believe but they don't replace potassium and magnesium.
[00:02:19] So the soil continues to have less and less to feed the plants, right?
[00:02:25] Lucy Leitner: [00:02:25] Yeah. Yeah. There's I've even in a previous life. I've even written ads for companies that do supplements for for deficient soil. So not mandatory, but you know, it's well known in agriculture that the options out there that you probably need to supplement your soil.
[00:02:42] And yeah, that's one of the reasons and also. Still processing in general the processing of food also removes vital nutrients and magnesiums one of
[00:02:51] Carl Lanore: [00:02:51] them. Right? Right. And so as a result the population is magnesium deficient in some of the symptoms that show up in the population the two most [00:03:00] pronounced our insulin resistance and high blood pressure.
[00:03:04] So there was some really good studies done on the Pima Indians in Arizona about maybe 12 or 15 years ago the Pima Indians. And our evolutionary adapted to having less food. And so when they eat a western diet, they all become obese and that's because we look at them as being defective but the reality is from an evolutionary perspective there.
[00:03:32] They are more equipped to do better on less and they become spontaneously insulin-resistant on a western diet. And so as you point out. The Western diet is devoid of magnesium. So a group of scientists took Pima Indians and all they did was had them had to supplement with 600 milligrams of magnesium a day and lo and behold they spontaneously reverse their [00:04:00] insulin resistance and their body weight started to drop and so we see this in it's not just the Pima Indian.
[00:04:08] You know it we see this in the population with obesity is rampant, and I'm not saying it's just one thing. The lot of things but one of those things is the fact that we don't have enough magnesium in our diet magnesium affects insulin sensitivity on a cellular level you have you seen that research Lucy.
[00:04:25] Lucy Leitner: [00:04:25] Yeah. We seen some of it in the majority of what we see in the research about the blood about helping regulate blood sugar helping with with blood pressure. There's just there's so many because magnesium helps with hundreds of reactions in the body. So yeah, we've seen those what we've really really have focused on is is the brain which I think will get into a little bit later.
[00:04:47] But yeah, right.
[00:04:48] Carl Lanore: [00:04:48] Well I know but I will go to focus on the brain but I don't want to lose the fact that this is real magnesium and all the purported benefits of magnesium are also engaged with this particular [00:05:00] form of magnesium. So yeah, so magnesium L 3 and 8 is a unique molecule. It's bound to vitamin C and it crosses the blood-brain barrier.
[00:05:09] Here an early research showed that people with dementia improved memory and and short-term memory rather rapidly. In fact life extension Foundation did a great article about this about four or five years ago and they actually showed the brain scans of before and after using magnesium L 3 and 8 and the activity in the brain was just.
[00:05:37] After a supplementing.
[00:05:39] Lucy Leitner: [00:05:39] Yeah, and the study that you're talking about where it it actually reversed Brain Age which was which is really fascinating. It's a compound magazine, which is the Branded version of magnesium L 3 and 8 and it the study actually showed that people reverse. They measured the age of the brain based [00:06:00] on taking several multiple different tests that show different aspects of cognitive function could.
[00:06:06] Charges against what's actually normal and it was in like 12 weeks like that was I mean, they showed Improvement after six weeks but 12 weeks. I mean, you're talking like three months of supplementing with magnesium L 3 and 8 that they showed that their brains aged in Reverse. It's pretty amazing,
[00:06:24] right?
[00:06:24] Carl Lanore: [00:06:24] Yeah. No, this is an exciting molecule and as a result of that magnesium L3, and it was originally introduced as a nootropic form of magnesium because it improved cognition improved memory formation and. And retention but it also improves some other areas of the brain. It has an effect on the substantia nigra, which is related to several motor dysfunctions, including Parkinson's disease and there's some early research out there that shows that it may actually benefit people who have look the brain has [00:07:00] lots of little departments, right?
[00:07:02] So the department responsible for memory consolidation memory. Mation memory recall is this department here, but there's lots of areas of the brain that are affected by glucose metabolism. In fact a recent study showed that amyloid plaque was not a good indicator of Alzheimer's disease, but brain insulin sensitivity and glucose metabolism was and so when we start to look at the brain, As a as this monolithic formation, we start to realize that well, maybe your brain dysfunction as a result of insulin sensitivity in your brain getting wonky affects your memory, but somebody else you could affect motor coordination and and yet somebody else it could affect organ function.
[00:07:57] And so we're starting to understand [00:08:00] that things that are good for memory may be good for other brain Related Disorders. Have you seen? Research on Parkinson's disease.
[00:08:07] Lucy Leitner: [00:08:07] Yeah, we have and all there's I mean, there's so many reasons. There's so many different studies using different research different nutrients examining all basically all of these neurological conditions,
[00:08:20] Carl Lanore: [00:08:20] right and so magnesium L 3 and 8 is good for your brain, but it's good for your body to just the way magnesium in general is.
[00:08:26] Lucy Leitner: [00:08:26] Yeah, absolutely. And it contains, you know, our our supplement contains the elemental magnesium plus the Magnesium L 3 and 8. So anyway, there's those hundreds of processes aren't just in your brain. There are there for helping you know with with healthy bones with your with your nervous system throughout your body.
[00:08:45] With muscles like with obviously as you said like the you know, the cardiovascular system like it's it's all threats of people people that see different benefits of it. Like one of the most one of the most common uses of magnesium is for [00:09:00] relaxation and for for help sleeping and it's thats that occurs at several different levels with magnesium.
[00:09:08] It's not just the cognitive effects which is, you know, very powerful and something with like a magnesium out three and eight. But also just physically what magnesium does for cells in your muscles. That's also that's also really conducive to the relaxation and can help people, you know get in a better state for for being ready for sleep
[00:09:27] Carl Lanore: [00:09:27] literally hundreds of enzymatic Cascades in the p450 cytochrome Cascade of enzymes depend on magnesium.
[00:09:36] Number one. Another interesting thing is those of you out there who are on Angiotensin converting. Enzyme Inhibitors or a are bees which are the new form Angiotensin receptor blockers. Those of you who are having issues with Angiotensin system causing high blood pressure magnesium is a natural [00:10:00] angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor without any of the side effects that pharmaceutical drugs have it naturally reduces the production of angiotensin now some think this is a.
[00:10:13] Him effect of insulin. So when insulin is high and your tension is high when Angiotensin is high peripheral blood flow is restricted when political peripheral blood flow is restricted core blood flow is increased and blood pressure goes up. It's like if you step on a hose the pressure behind. Goes up in the hose because you're not letting anything out.
[00:10:35] So this is why Angiotensin system and the renin system causes high blood pressure. So if you take a magnesium supplement, like the one we're talking about today. It will have a direct effect on your blood sugar blood pressure indirectly and directly indirectly as a result of insulin sensitivity but directly because it is a natural Ace.
[00:10:58] Pretty cool stuff. [00:11:00] So, I'm sorry. I'm stealing your thunder here, aren't I? I would say someone someone is asking are you selling a product or illustrating about magnesium right now? We're illustrating about magnesium, but we're going to talk about a very very unique form of magnesium here in just a minute.
[00:11:18] So sit tight we'll discuss that now. Okay, so let's talk about the combination of magnesium L3 and eight into a liposomal encapsulated delivery system that also has choline in it.
[00:11:36] Lucy Leitner: [00:11:36] Yeah, so I could give like a little background on liposomal encapsulation in case in case people aren't entirely clear on what that is.
[00:11:45] Basically what that means is that you're taking a nutrient and you're wrapping it into a sphere that's made of essential phospholipids including: now, what's interesting about that Kant. [00:12:00] That's the way that that is is made up is it it's actually the same materials that make up your cell. So what happens is when you encapsulate a nutrient that is water soluble and therefore really difficult to store and for your body to absorb and it really the absorption challenge is very by nutrient.
[00:12:21] But what this is enables it to do is to take an alternate route through your body so it doesn't depend on the. There is nutrient absorption systems that we usually depend on now. This is really important for something like magnesium for certain populations, like people with celiac disease. Well, it's that that compromises because of the damage to the small intestine with people with with any sort of you know, inflammatory autoimmune condition that the damages the gut but like let's take celiac disease for example that directly damages.
[00:12:59] [00:13:00] Intestinal like delay or Billy or what they're called and and that makes it really hard to absorb magnesium which just exacerbates, you know health health issues if you can't absorb nutrients. So what this does is it takes an alternate route and it doesn't depend on these systems that could be compromised due to various conditions that that people may have and then we'll get back to so it helps absorption basically is but in terms of the magnesium.
[00:13:29] It offers something really really unique, which is Cooling and choline by itself is an incredible nutrient for brain health. There's been studies about it. We're so acetylcholine it take that as an example. That's a neurotransmitter which obviously like if you break down the name, it is something that's dependent on choline to be made so that helps with brain communication and it's responsible for, you know certain factors of move.
[00:13:59] Good in [00:14:00] memory and other critical brain functions and then practically so that's that's great. You know, you can make these neurotransmitters with it, but there's been practical studies about it where it's actually improved learning in college students. So now we're not even talking about, you
[00:14:15] Carl Lanore: [00:14:15] know, elderly, right?
[00:14:16] Yeah.
[00:14:16] Lucy Leitner: [00:14:16] Exactly. We're talking about 19 20 year old
[00:14:19] Carl Lanore: [00:14:19] and and and the the support for choline is recently been real estate in a recent study about people who eat whole eggs and people who don't yell. Just wrote about it in his subversive t.com blog I believe but there's evidence that people who eat whole egg get more choline have been a brain function and better memory.
[00:14:40] And so we've known about the effects of choline for a very long time in fact. Nootropic supplements that have Blends in them have some form of advanced absorption type choline in them because without choline you you can't increase communication between [00:15:00] nerve and the nerve synapses.
[00:15:02] Lucy Leitner: [00:15:02] Yeah. And and so that's why that's why this is that's what we're calling this particular when the ultimate brain supplement because of a couple things lie.
[00:15:10] It's the first liposomal magnesium 0398 this that's it. There's there's. This is the only one out there right now. So and it really it includes that magnesium L3 and ate the transports the Magnesium, you know to it's the only compound that's been proven to raise my brain magnesium levels. It's that's the only one and and then you also have the calling the the liposomes made with the calling that not only increases the absorption but also provides its own brain benefits.
[00:15:41] So that's why we think we have such a unique magnesium. Comments, it's just it's very different from anything else on the market.
[00:15:48] Carl Lanore: [00:15:48] So let me tell you what I think is really interesting. So I've been using this product for quite a while and I've always taken supplemental magnesium, but the most I'm able to take [00:16:00] is between four and six hundred milligrams.
[00:16:01] That's glycinate or citrate. I don't take magnesium oxide. It's really like swallowing a penny and trying to get copper out of it. You gotta poop the whole Penny out. So so you have to use some of these better. Absorbed forms of magnesium that either chelated or bonded to something else. Well the most I've ever able to take a 600 milligrams because magnesium attracts water and it causes something called called.
[00:16:29] I just forgot the name but osmotic diarrhea, it actually attracts fluid into the gut and it causes a lot of people go to the bathroom and and that's why people take milk of magnesia when they're constipated because it makes you go to the. This magnesium I have taken as message three grams in a day does not affect me and I believe that's because it's liposomal.
[00:16:54] He delivered that it's not attracting water in my gut because it's encapsulated in a [00:17:00] fat and it's being absorbed in the lymphatic system. So bypasses that whole phenomenon of hey water here. We are come and get us that magnesium seems to elicit. Have you gotten feedback about that at all?
[00:17:11] Lucy Leitner: [00:17:11] Yeah.
[00:17:12] Yeah. We have we have we haven't got. Any reports of anyone taking it and having that sort of reaction to it that you would with traditional magnesium supplements. Yeah. We absolutely have
[00:17:23] Carl Lanore: [00:17:23] yeah, it's a really interesting supplement. I take at least one packet a day. I take it before bedtime generally because I want that relaxation that magnesium Imports and I do not have any issues and I'm taking a thousand milligrams of magnesium and one shot that's astonishing to me.
[00:17:41] That's just noticing. So what else is unique about this particular product? Right? The other thing is that it has some unique forms of fat in it that are also essential to the body, right?
[00:17:55] Lucy Leitner: [00:17:55] Yeah. Yeah that constitute the like the sounds.
[00:17:58] Carl Lanore: [00:17:58] Yeah, and [00:18:00] so those fats are essential fats that the body needs that probably people don't get a lot of throughout the day.
[00:18:06] Lucy Leitner: [00:18:06] Yeah, and they are critical to fortifying the cells. So when the when the liposomes I mean it comes back to it being made with faces of the same material that makes up your your cell membranes that enables it to easily assimilate into the cells and where those you know that goes in there and fortifies it like it's it's something that you need.
[00:18:28] There's different types of the phosphatidylcholine phosphatidyl other things that I can't be
[00:18:33] Carl Lanore: [00:18:33] around phosphatidyl serine. Which also. Part of calmness and lowers cortisol levels and fairly small doses. Yeah. These phospholipids are very very important. Yeah,
[00:18:43] Lucy Leitner: [00:18:43] extremely they just really contribute to the Health and Longevity of your cells.
[00:18:49] Carl Lanore: [00:18:49] So what I want to do is I want to do a quick commercial break and when we come back I'm going to actually take my packet because I had forgotten to take it earlier today. I try to take two a day in one before bed. But [00:19:00] also I want to talk about so neuropathic pain is rampant in our. Even today some people attributed to lack of blood flow to the nerves and some people attributed to that.
[00:19:13] Once you develop this pain signature in the brain. It doesn't go away even if the nerve endings resume proper function and I found a really interesting study on using magnesium L 3 and 8 to resolve neuropathic pain that I want to talk about when we come out of the other side of the break we're gonna take a quick commercial break the product that is that were talking about today.
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[00:19:52] So show them some love the website is live on Labs L IV onl ABS.com. You can learn more there stay tuned. We'll be right back. [00:20:00] Welcome back. We're talking about a product produced. A sponsor of our live on labs and it is a liposomal delivered magnesium L3 and eight supplement. That's amazing. A recent study published called The Chronic dietary magnesium L3 and eight.
[00:20:20] Supplementation and its effect on I'm sorry speeds Extinction and reduces spontaneous recovery. I'm sorry wrong study wrong study. This is I'm looking at several of them. They so some of the effects that it appears to have on the brain has to do with actually re-establishing normal brain function the the one on taste and this one here actually shows that it inhibits changes in the brain.
[00:20:49] That occur when you live in a chronic state of pain and they attributed this to its effects on to necrosis Factor. So a lot of people have neuropathic pain [00:21:00] and we now know that neuropathy occurs because the blood flow to the blood vessels that feed the nerves gets pinched off. It's almost like when your leg falls asleep that's what neuropathic pain is, but when it stays asleep for a long enough.
[00:21:14] You start get the pins and needles effect when your leg is coming back and waking up if it actually hurts and tingles and so. They did a study where they gave rodents that had they developed a neuropathic pain model in magnesium L 3 and 8 and what the Magnesium L3 and they did was it made the pain go away by to doing tune things.
[00:21:38] We talked about how the disinhibition of Ace causes blood. Peripheral blood flow to occur again, but more importantly it reduce tnf-alpha tnf-alpha is implicated in a lot of different inflammatory diseases chronic inflammation diseases always have a tnf-alpha [00:22:00] signature to them and magnesium L 3 and 8 reduces the production of tnf alpha now if it can do that for neuropathic pain, that means it's going to do that for.
[00:22:10] All different types of chronic inflammatory disorders, so don't just get focused while I don't have neuropathic pain that's not know. If you think you suffer from chronic inflammation, whether it be in your gut whether it be in your joints, whether it be in certain muscles, whether you've been told that you have a an inflammatory disorder, this is going to reduce tnf-alpha and probably other components of of chronic inflammation, and it's probably working on that path.
[00:22:39] Talking about earlier all the different enzyme Cascades that affect what do you think? What do you think? Lucy
[00:22:46] Lucy Leitner: [00:22:46] I mean it makes total sense to me I can't comment on it because I would be like a particular condition. But yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah,
[00:22:59] Carl Lanore: [00:22:59] I can I can [00:23:00] talk about it. I know people that so many people out there message me because I've shared with them that I actually have some neuropathic pain in my lower legs.
[00:23:09] And I have to tell you I didn't put it all together. I thought well, I'm training more I'm walking more the pain is getting less and less but I've also been taking 2 grams a day of this supplement now for probably the better part of a close to a month and this could be contributing to the fact that my neuropathic pain is dissipating.
[00:23:33] Lucy Leitner: [00:23:33] Yeah, that's great. That's it magnesium
[00:23:35] Carl Lanore: [00:23:35] L 3 and 8 is a really fascinating form of magnesium. It's a really fascinating molecule. You know, what have what have we missed in this discussion so far?
[00:23:45] Lucy Leitner: [00:23:45] I would say that the only thing we talked a little about the conditions and and some of the reasons that people are magnesium deficient in terms of just like, you know, people eating a just a standard American diet probably just aren't eating the foods that have magnesium.
[00:24:00] [00:24:00] It's not really plentiful and people out of that kind of diet. They people who were really trying to eat better, you know eating Whole Foods, but I think that there's just not the Magnesium content that there once was in those foods and also the other the various there's various conditions that can inhibit magnesium absorption due to like gut dysfunction and damage but there's also other medications and you've touched on a little.
[00:24:29] It's like the diuretics and the ACE inhibitors, but there's there's a lot of other ones. There's that are pretty well document that they don't really play well with magnesium and those include things that are as ubiquitous is antibiotics. When used in the long term, you know any sort of hormone replacement therapy or birth control
[00:24:51] Carl Lanore: [00:24:51] talk about way talk about that mean lots of women are on birth control talk about that component, please.
[00:24:56] Yeah
[00:24:56] Lucy Leitner: [00:24:56] that's been around since about the sixth. [00:25:00] Basically ever since the pill had hit the market there's been studies about it interfering with nutrient absorption and magnesium. I mean, it's a lot of nutrients. It's even vitamin C. You don't hear a lot about different things that different with vitamin C absorption, but that's one of them but magnesium is it's very well documented numerous studies that I'm dating back.
[00:25:22] It's not like the studies ended in the 60s. Like there's been studies since the 60s about that. They haven't really figured out the pathways of why that's the case, but it's just been there's been you know correlation with you know, taking these hormonal products and having lower levels of magnesium.
[00:25:43] Carl Lanore: [00:25:43] Well, so what we know anybody who's listening to this show for a number of years knows that we've done we've done a lot of different shows that. A. correlation between. gut microbial diversity and how its [00:26:00] influenced by hormones. There are when estrogens are high when testosterone is high when oxytocin is high, it changes the signature of the gut throught the the microbes that thrive now, there's some people who say well the gut microbes influence hormones and that.
[00:26:21] True, but we know when when endogenous and exogenous hormones are used the gut microbes change and we know that gut my growth microbes play a role in nutrient extraction from food. So I would submit without any research and I haven't done any research on but I would submit that birth control pills the generally almost when their hormonal almost always progestin, 's except when.
[00:26:50] They're not they are a form of antibiotic tetracycline. But when when when you have your taking these [00:27:00] artificial progestins, some of them are synthetic. Some of them are from horses, which aren't human. I would imagine that they change the the diversity of the gut and that influences nutrient absorption, right?
[00:27:15] Lucy Leitner: [00:27:15] Yeah, that that absolutely could be the case that we know that the antibiotics definitely do because of that has a very direct effect on God got bacteria. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's the big reason that some other reasons just to look into just individually for reasons why people could be could be deficient in magnesium and why it's so widespread just because of the you know, how many people take pharmaceutical drugs we only did mention a couple of them, but there's no.
[00:27:44] D the deplete magnesium,
[00:27:46] Carl Lanore: [00:27:46] are you using the Magnesium? 0388?
[00:27:49] Lucy Leitner: [00:27:49] Yeah, I am. I think the whole cocktail of live on lab supplements every morning
[00:27:54] Carl Lanore: [00:27:54] you put them all in one glass and drink them down or do one at a time
[00:27:57] Lucy Leitner: [00:27:57] one at a time.
[00:27:58] Carl Lanore: [00:27:58] So so you actually do it the way [00:28:00] so the way that live on Labs like people to take these because I like the taste of the phosphatidyl lipids.
[00:28:07] I'll actually enjoy the taste but what they recommend is that you drop. Into a shot of water or something similar, right?
[00:28:15] Lucy Leitner: [00:28:15] Yes. Yes. This this is the recommended way to do it and it's super easy. And for anyone that's ever taken shots of tequila or anything. It should be super easy. So I put it into just a shot glass regular regular shot glass I use about like one ounce of water and then I just open the packet does my vitamin C of all.
[00:28:41] Taking my magnesium. So I'll do the vitamin C. You just rip it open and you squeeze it.
[00:28:50] Carl Lanore: [00:28:50] The
[00:28:51] Lucy Leitner: [00:28:51] glass
[00:28:52] Carl Lanore: [00:28:52] right and
[00:28:53] Lucy Leitner: [00:28:53] since you know as we talked about it's made of these fats it's you know, obviously the dissolve in the liquid. So it [00:29:00] makes this blob and then you just basically throw it back like a shot. It makes it really easy to take and you pretty much don't taste any yeah,
[00:29:09] Carl Lanore: [00:29:09] you don't say anything when you do it that way.
[00:29:11] I wonder if you can actually you know, this would be an interesting thing. You know how Red Bull made it into the bars. What about tequila and vitamin C shots?
[00:29:21] Lucy Leitner: [00:29:21] Hey, we actually have a video on our website of our executive director Kaylee taking it with a glass of wine.
[00:29:27] Carl Lanore: [00:29:27] Yeah. There you go. Let me just put it in anything anything you want.
[00:29:31] Lucy Leitner: [00:29:31] You can put it into anything as long as that anything. Necessitated the vitamin going into the blender or into anything cops. One thing about the liposomes is that they are very very sensitive. They do not do well if they get Blended and they also don't don't react well in hot liquids so as long as it's cold or you know room temperature you're good.
[00:29:53] Carl Lanore: [00:29:53] I want to talk about a liposomes in just a second. I want to talk about there's a lot of people out there who think they're taking [00:30:00] liposomal supplements and they're not but Jeff Clifton has a good question. He says, Lavon have an affiliate program for those people out there who are personal trainers or they have websites.
[00:30:09] Can they do something with you?
[00:30:11] Lucy Leitner: [00:30:11] Yeah. Absolutely. We have an affiliate program. It's actually if you go to live on labs.com and you just scroll down to the footer there's a link, I believe it's under about it says affiliate program. You can sign up its. I think it's five percent commission on all the sales you get unique tracking links and everything.
[00:30:30] So you just apply and yeah, and that's how you get started.
[00:30:35] Carl Lanore: [00:30:35] Thanks for asking Jeff. So so live on was the originator of the liposomal delivered vitamins. And so everybody just kind of thought. Oh, well we can do this too. And there's even YouTube videos saying here's how you can make your own liposomal vitamin C.
[00:30:55] Ever right and all they're doing is they're taking lecithin [00:31:00] and water and a blender and putting everything together and blending it. This is not liposomal adding lecithin and water to your favorite supplement is just taking lesser than water and your favorite supplement. It's not liposomal in order to create a liposome.
[00:31:19] It takes a specific temperature and it takes ultrasonic. Wave these big Vats and what happens is all that the molecule of the supplement gets caught inside one bar one bubble if you will of of the mixture and this is why it's called liposomal encapsulated. If you just put this stuff in a blender and blend it up.
[00:31:45] It's not going into the liposomal. The only thing I can get it into the liposome is a special temperature and the reaction between. He the stuff in the vat and ultrasonic [00:32:00] vibration for a specific period of time and this actually makes a Suds if you will of fat and everything gets caught inside its own little liposome and this so be careful when companies say they're making liposomal supplements right them and ask them say how exactly do you make this because 99% of them are just throwing.
[00:32:24] Off in a blender blending it up and thinking that's a liposome that is not phospholipid science is a very very specific science. There's a handful of companies in the country that actually have the capabilities of doing this the right way. So please don't mistake. The stuff that comes from live on to the stuff you're going to find on Amazon someplace by some no-name company that says yeah.
[00:32:50] We have liposomal encapsulated blah blah blah. They're not making liposomes. They're just blending a lecithin based fat product with [00:33:00] supplements and selling it to you. That's as useless as just taking the supplement out the fat. I just want to go on the record of saying that because I know that there's lots of charlatans out there in the supplement world, you know.
[00:33:13] So do you want to speak to that or comment or
[00:33:16] Lucy Leitner: [00:33:16] yeah say that when so liposomal encapsulation has been around for a long time. It's been around since the 1970s, but it's been used by the pharmaceutical industry. It's to deliver drugs basically to deliver and some of these are these are you know, very very important life-saving drugs that they've been using to with that.
[00:33:37] They depended on liposomal encapsulation to to achieve so. Our founder less nachman and his wife Sunday night and he's our president of our company. They wanted to find a way to bring this to everyone because of the experience that last. By getting intravenous vitamin C. [00:34:00] He was diagnosed with heart failure and given not very much time to live if he didn't get a heart transplant.
[00:34:07] He did several different things of not it wasn't just vitamin C but IV vitamin C was a huge part of his treatment and Recovery. This was in the early 2000s almost 20 years later. Still around driving a red sports car. All right,
[00:34:19] Carl Lanore: [00:34:19] he's got great nice Corvette. He's taking me on a ride for it. And he I was like holding on like okay, I get it.
[00:34:25] It goes fast. I get it.
[00:34:28] Lucy Leitner: [00:34:28] I'm selling office all the time. And so it's just he what they wanted to do was enable more people to have the experience of being able to take higher doses of Vitamin C without all the mean you're talking about the second gastric side effects of magnesium. They are not.
[00:34:45] Pleasant for high doses of traditional oil vitamin C right he wanted to enable more people to really get the benefits of larger doses of Vitamin C. So he found that you know, there was this technology and they [00:35:00] worked for years. When phds was formulators with with Alt with people who really really knew the science unless it been in the supplement industry.
[00:35:10] So he had you know, he had good connections to good people. So it was really like almost a perfect storm of things that made less and Cindy uniquely qualified to bring this up and I mean this was years of getting the correct formulation. So it is something to look out for when all of a sudden a supplement company launches a liposomal vitamin C product.
[00:35:31] They know how difficult it is to do it to get it right and it is a very different production facility. Then you would have for any other type of supplement what you were describing with the Vats and the unique process like it's going to look different. I would be kind of weary over maybe a company that just launches liposomal out of nowhere and and all they sold before his pills because they would need to do some massive changes to their Manufacturing.
[00:35:58] Carl Lanore: [00:35:58] Definitely. Definitely I [00:36:00] we're going to take a last commercial break stay tuned. We'll be right back. Welcome back. Not a whole lot more to say if you have a loved one who is suffering from dementia. It's worth giving magnesium L 3 and 8 from live on labs to try if you suffer from neuropathic pain, it looks like it's worth giving it a try if you just are interested in general health benefits of more magnesium.
[00:36:25] It's definitely the one you want to use because. Take more of it in a single dose without having any stomach distress. It's just a win-win. I actually feel that this is one of those foundational supplements that people should be taking every single day. You know, we have we have the have to sand the wants, you know, we have to take this but we want to take that and this falls into the Habit.
[00:36:46] Oh, I really believe that in this population today that is well documented is magnesium deficient and a lot of these maladies that we suffer from could be coming from some of that. Magnesium deficiency. This is it. This is a [00:37:00] no-brainer. No pun intended. This is a good supplement. And if you go to live on Labs L IV onl ABS.com, you can get a 30 day supply their give it a try and I'd like to hear from people on are at superhuman radio Dot.
[00:37:15] Tell me about your experience. I notice a difference when I take it. I noticed a difference when I don't and I think that you will too you want to wrap it up Lucy.
[00:37:27] Lucy Leitner: [00:37:27] Yeah, sure. We've been hearing a lot of. We've been hearing a lot on social media from our younger customers of magnesium 0398 obviously because it's social media that you were there, you know,
[00:37:40] Carl Lanore: [00:37:40] but it's surprising that they're noticing anything from it.
[00:37:42] They're
[00:37:43] Lucy Leitner: [00:37:43] noticing help with what young people who work really hard and run themselves ragged would notice which is helping with relaxation at the end of the day. That's that's what we really heard from them. [00:38:00] It's yeah, maybe feeling they said a little bit about maybe feeling a little bit sharper.
[00:38:05] But the big thing that we've heard from them from the younger people is is just found more relaxed when they need to
[00:38:11] Carl Lanore: [00:38:11] Eliza talks about her vision getting better when she takes mag 3 and 8 very well and that Mo makes sense. It's part of the brain. Yeah,
[00:38:19] Lucy Leitner: [00:38:19] absolutely.
[00:38:20] Carl Lanore: [00:38:20] So there's that too. But you know, I don't want to I don't want to make it sound like oh, it's everything.
[00:38:25] It's really a great supplement. I love it. I love taking this particular product. I look forward to and I take it right before bed every night and I definitely sleep better when I take. I'm sorry. Thank you so much for being here today and thank you to live on lab for being a continuous sponsor of our mission our cause to help change people's lives.
[00:38:44] We do these sponsor Spotlight from time to time to connect the audience with new products and it's important to support the sponsors of this show because without them there is no show I get emails every single day from people [00:39:00] that say this show changed your lives, you know. That listenership of the show is exploded in the past few months.
[00:39:06] It's just ridiculous. And and all this information is available for free take it a don't take it. But the only reason why I can come in here and do the show every single day is because of companies like LaVon loves. Thanks a lot Lucy.
[00:39:20] Lucy Leitner: [00:39:20] Thank you so much.
[00:39:21] Carl Lanore: [00:39:21] Okay. I will see everybody tomorrow with more superhuman radio.
[00:39:23] Thank you for listening today.
