[00:00:00] [00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to superhuman radio. Today is August 27th. It is a Tuesday, which means that we have the blueprint power. Our that's going to start in just a moment. I just want to remind everybody that we have a super sale on Thrive protein. Thrive protein is the most intelligently formally formulated protein in the.
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[00:01:07] Calling all blueprint Army fall in line. It's time for the blueprint Power Hour with Coach Rodriguez on the Superhuman radio network.
[00:01:20] How you doing?
[00:01:21] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:21] I am doing fantastic. Thank you for asking.
[00:01:25] Carl Lanore: [00:01:25] I'm pimping Thrive more often now and and believe it or not lo and behold people buying it go figure.
[00:01:30] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:30] All right, I'll let go team NBA angle. Yeah. Yeah, right.
[00:01:36] Carl Lanore: [00:01:36] So anyway, what's new man?
[00:01:38] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:38] Well, in addition to the new website you can shoot on over to coach Rob register.com all new content every day.
[00:01:47] I wanted subscribers to know we have a really hot issue coming out next month. I'm going to be debuting a new what I call Turbo taper. Training cycle in addition [00:02:00] of Adam also going to talk about a new caffeine alternative that I'm sure you and other people be interested in
[00:02:06] Carl Lanore: [00:02:06] me. I will
[00:02:07] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:07] write we're also going to discuss a metabolite of DHEA that's been shown in studies to Triple the rate of fat loss and.
[00:02:17] Lo and behold maybe synergistic with some of the XD analogs like Lex Ogen in that people are using and then finally I am going to show folks the lab tests on eight of the most popular XD steroids. And Tribulus products some of these are Big names in the supplement game and you will not believe what is not in many.
[00:02:43] Wow of the top brands. Yeah. It's really interesting. That's
[00:02:46] Carl Lanore: [00:02:46] bold. That's awesome
[00:02:48] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:48] Yep
[00:02:49] Carl Lanore: [00:02:49] after you release that and your subscribers get the news first. Can you come on the show and talk about.
[00:02:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:56] I'll check into that. Okay?
[00:02:58] Carl Lanore: [00:02:58] See see if there's any legalities or [00:03:00] anything
[00:03:00] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:00] like that, right? I'm going to check it out first before moving forward.
[00:03:05] Okay, so I also wanted to mention that we have a special guest with us today. My friend, Mindy and Mindy reach out to me several months ago after a particular episode you and I did Carl. It was a show where I gave out my personal phone number and lo and behold she called and we talked for a long time a really long time and I thought it would be great to have Haram So to that end.
[00:03:35] Welcome to sh our Mindy. Thank
[00:03:38] Mindy Hartman: [00:03:38] you. It's great to be here
[00:03:39] Carl Lanore: [00:03:39] Mindy. Can we say your last name? Yes, Mindy Hartman. There you go.
[00:03:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:44] Yeah, and so Mindy I'd like if you would tell us just a little bit about yourself and maybe how you came across as HR. This is a really interesting story.
[00:03:56] Mindy Hartman: [00:03:56] Well, I actually I'll start with the show and how I came across the show [00:04:00] as I started using an iPod and really frustrated with a lot of aspects of it.
[00:04:04] And one of the Apple people said they have an accessibility line that runs 24/7 to help people with disabilities. So go Apple. Not every company can boast that he said wait till you get into podcasts while I'm an information. Junkie and I was looking through Health podcasts because I am also a natural health Advocate and came across superhuman radio and while I don't listen to every episode I do listen to many of them and some of them I kind of jump around and listen to Parts depending on what their what's being talked about.
[00:04:34] I am certainly not an athlete. But as I said, very interested in health, I did not grow up with an interest in health at least not in. The natural realm my mother is a nurse so I was kind of interested and I thought I wanted to be a nurse when I grew up when I was younger, but everybody said oh you're not going to be able to do that because I've been blind since birth and in actuality looking back.
[00:04:58] I probably could [00:05:00] have if I would have chosen the road that I ended up becoming most interested in which would have been being a certified nurse Midwife, but that's a whole other topic.
[00:05:08] Coach Rob Regish: [00:05:08] That is wonderful that it's just a fascinating story. So and
[00:05:13] Carl Lanore: [00:05:13] so wait so you so you deliver babies then
[00:05:15] Mindy Hartman: [00:05:15] I know I don't if I had gone down that road.
[00:05:17] I could have looking back like I there were so many people who said oh you couldn't do that. Well, I probably really could have because midwives often work in pairs, but for me, It wouldn't be real practical now because of the history of depression that I've had and the fibromyalgia and other health issues that I have gotten mostly squared away, but because of that I just I know better than to try to go into a career like that.
[00:05:42] That would totally mess up my.
[00:05:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:05:44] Yeah. Yeah, and that's a that's a great Segway because the particular episode I think that you heard me talking on Carl and I were having a discussion about depression and you certainly have some thoughts about that and [00:06:00] some practical experience as I and many other people do so, I'm wondering if you could tell us a little bit about that and maybe some tips about how you've dealt with.
[00:06:12] And certainly we can get into other histories, but could you speak a little bit more to that the depression thing?
[00:06:21] Mindy Hartman: [00:06:21] I have struggled on and off with depression. Definitely since I was 16, which was the first time I was ever suicidal and looking back. I think I might have been struggling with it a little bit before then just not as much and it's been kind of an on-and-off thing.
[00:06:35] I started on antidepressants when I was 19, so three years after. I started dealing with depression and I had already tried counseling for a year and that just wasn't doing it. So I was on four different antidepressants one at a time and then a combination of two and that was what caused me to reach out to a lady who later became my naturopath and say what can we do because I was [00:07:00] kind of scared.
[00:07:00] I've seen people really medicated on for five drugs. I didn't want to go down that road. And there were times even on the antidepressants that I was suicidal. So by the grace of God support of friends diet and lifestyle changes supplements all kinds of different things exercise. I took my last antidepressant in the fall of 2007 now, please please if any of you are listening to this and you're on antidepressants do not do not stop cold turkey.
[00:07:29] Please do so only with the help of a medical professional and I am also not saying that. Well should not be on an antidepressant if that's how you function and you're doing well. That's not for me to say that's between you and your doctor. I'm what we
[00:07:43] Carl Lanore: [00:07:43] want to ask you a question because this is this is a really important topic.
[00:07:48] so. What happens when a person says I want to get off my antidepressants in the doctor kind of resist the cell, you know, you shouldn't do that and blah blah blah. Then
[00:07:59] Mindy Hartman: [00:07:59] you find [00:08:00] another doctor you can fire your doctor. I had a nurse practitioner who was willing to work with me. She was a little bit unsure but I said, look, let's do this.
[00:08:09] I'm still coming to see you regularly and I was also working with my naturopath at the same time and it took us eight months. Probably seven eight months to get me off of. To antidepressants and some people take even longer than that and that's okay if that's what they need to do. But to stop them cold turkey is just a really bad idea.
[00:08:29] Did
[00:08:29] Carl Lanore: [00:08:29] you titrate down, you know half the yes for two weeks half that drops
[00:08:33] Mindy Hartman: [00:08:33] and it wasn't it wasn't bad coming off of the Wellbutrin. It was horrible coming off of the Effexor.
[00:08:40] Coach Rob Regish: [00:08:40] Well, no see you. That's interesting because it kind of parallels my experience. I fortunately I guess have not had as serious episodes as depression as some people except when I was on.
[00:08:58] I think it was [00:09:00] Effexor. It was the one and only time in my life. I was suicidal so I would be interested to hear how you. Moved away from that and maybe into the naturopathic realm and some of the solutions that that they brought forth
[00:09:18] Carl Lanore: [00:09:18] and cover the cover the pathways of action how they differ why the affection was so much harder to come off of than the Wellbutrin doll.
[00:09:28] Mindy Hartman: [00:09:28] Oh the Wellbutrin if I am remembering correctly has something to do with dopamine. I think the Effexor if I'm remembering is an SN r y snri. I haven't done a lot of research in that area in in recent years and I'll probably I'm just glad to have that behind me. So if either of you want to elaborate more on the pathways, you may
[00:09:53] Carl Lanore: [00:09:53] well, I know that Wellbutrin has a dopamine reuptake inhibition effect, and that's why they [00:10:00] use it for reward-based addictions like tobacco.
[00:10:04] They know they'll use that to get people off of tobacco and so on. I didn't know about affects her. I that's why I was curious.
[00:10:13] Mindy Hartman: [00:10:13] Yeah, I think I want to say it's a serotonin norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor.
[00:10:18] Coach Rob Regish: [00:10:18] Okay. I think you're right. And is that also lets see effects or what's the other name for it Lexapro.
[00:10:26] Carl Lanore: [00:10:26] How is that the same thing Lexapro is if I don't
[00:10:28] Mindy Hartman: [00:10:28] think
[00:10:29] Coach Rob Regish: [00:10:29] so.
[00:10:30] Mindy Hartman: [00:10:30] Maybe somebody can check that during the commercial break?
[00:10:32] Coach Rob Regish: [00:10:32] Yeah. Well, I guess the point is point. We're trying to make is look it's a good thing that you're going to get help right with your. But the dangers of some of these psychiatric medications are our profound, you know, like I said, I was never suicidal till I got on that stuff, but let's talk a little bit now Mandy about your journey away from that and maybe the steps you took [00:11:00] towards the world of physical culture and what you.
[00:11:03] Mindy Hartman: [00:11:03] Well, there were a whole lot of things I was dealing with when I contacted that naturopath besides depression. I was dealing with fibromyalgia and spending 12 to 18 hours a day in bed. So one of the things that I came to understand and I was not having chronic pain when my Depression started but I but I did come to understand as I.
[00:11:20] Started getting better and my pain decreased at that also helped with the depression because you know, they one feeds off the other. So if you're dealing with chronic pain don't be surprised if depression wants to get in there too.
[00:11:35] Coach Rob Regish: [00:11:35] Yeah, you know, my wife is experiencing this now. She's got a blown MCO and you know when your knees out you can't exercise so it's killing.
[00:11:45] Carl Lanore: [00:11:45] Well, and then there's all we've actually done shows when I came back from the ancestral Health Symposium in 2014. I had someone who did a guest speaking event on that tying a certain types of major depressive disorder to by [00:12:00] and large to chronic inflammation the brain becomes inflamed as well. See that's the problem with treating depression.
[00:12:08] There there there there are so many reasons. To suffer depression and some of them shouldn't be treated in my opinion. Like if you just lost a spouse or you lost your job. Well life really has been sucky. You know, I wouldn't walk into a movie theater where a funny movie was playing and people will lotta crying laughing uncontrollably until they cried and said you need a pill for that know it it's appropriate to laugh and sometimes it's appropriate.
[00:12:38] To be sad, but with that being said, I think that there's lots of reasons for depression interestingly enough fibromyalgia is an autoimmune disorder that is closely tied to chronic inflammation. So it doesn't surprise me that both of these happen to. [00:13:00] Occur in your circumstances, even
[00:13:02] Mindy Hartman: [00:13:02] though the Depression started years before they
[00:13:03] Carl Lanore: [00:13:03] could bring the brains more delicate the brain the brain the brain is going to experience the maladies of chronic inflammation a lot sooner than the nerves peripheral nerves and muscle tissue are going to start going wow.
[00:13:20] Now we're getting whacked to
[00:13:22] Coach Rob Regish: [00:13:22] yeah, and you know. Depression, right? It's a very difficult thing to talk about particularly. I think for men and you know, you guys have heard me open up about family members that I've lost and that discussion is not easy but Mindy I guess I'd like your thoughts on why it's important you think maybe that we do talk about it and get it out of the Shadows because that's where it's been, you know for a long time.
[00:13:53] Mindy Hartman: [00:13:53] Well, you can't work on fixing any problem until you acknowledge it and you know your depression it's [00:14:00] a problem and you can't fix it until you're willing to talk about it. You have to be willing to do things to make it better. But it's a whole lot easier to do those things when you first admit you have a problem and then you reach out and say hey, I need some help I'm struggling and.
[00:14:17] For some people that help is counseling. I think that counseling a lot of people can can get some some people short term some people it might be a little bit longer term depending on what the issues are. Especially if you have PTSD or something like that in addition, but I think that it also is great to have a friend or family member who is supportive to encourage you to exercise eat, right?
[00:14:43] Practice good sleep hygiene and do different aspects of self-care that you need to get yourself on the right track. It's hard to do that on your own because you don't feel motivated to do a lot of things for
[00:14:57] Coach Rob Regish: [00:14:57] you. Hit the nail on the head there. I [00:15:00] don't know what it's like for most people but when I do not exercise I get depressed.
[00:15:06] I mean, I don't get that dopamine head and I've been fond of saying it the greatest antidepressant in the world is exercise in my opinion. And I don't know if the same way for you Mindy but I would be curious to know, you know, what have been your experiences along those lines exercise and natural things that that help.
[00:15:32] Mindy Hartman: [00:15:32] Well, I do feel better when I exercise now for me. That hasn't been it's definitely an antidepressant for me, but I would also say that I have also used EFT part of my depression is seasonal and I benefit from using the far infrared sauna and being involved. In different social activities I sing in choirs music is great for your mental health if that's something you enjoy, but [00:16:00] even if it's not music just finding your finding ways to be involved in community to connect with friends.
[00:16:06] Coach Rob Regish: [00:16:06] Yeah, you know, one of the things that I learned was isolating yourself is definitely not going to help it's definitely not going to help now. You mentioned infrared sauna. Yes. Could you speak just a little bit more to that?
[00:16:20] Mindy Hartman: [00:16:20] Well for me, it feels like I'm lying in the sun which is perfect because I'm someone who spends hours in the sun in the summer and I have wondered sometimes why the seasonal affective disorder was an issue with me considering I don't have light perception, but it is so anyway, the sauna just helps for me with the seasonal aspect of it.
[00:16:41] But it's also a great way to detoxify your body some things like Plastics. Can only be detoxified through sweating and the sweat when they've analyzed the sweat from sauna in studies. You are getting rid of more of those toxins in your body. If you're using a far [00:17:00] infrared sauna as opposed to just a standard sauna that's not infrared detectors infrared rays penetrate deeper,
[00:17:08] Carl Lanore: [00:17:08] right the convection song are you talking about and then obviously being out in the sun, too?
[00:17:12] So do you get out in the sun and
[00:17:16] Mindy Hartman: [00:17:16] as I can I get a whole lot darker in the summer because I can sit out there for hours. And I know some people say, oh don't do that. But I've always felt like God created the Sun and I just feel so much better, but it's interesting to that. We need to keep our vitamin D levels up for a whole lot of reasons, but one of them is you're more likely to be depressed if your vitamin D is low and when I first got mine tested it was in the teens.
[00:17:41] Carl Lanore: [00:17:41] Well, and it's not just vitamin D believe it or not. We don't we give a lot of credit, you know when you eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich the bread the peanut butter and the jelly just kind of get mixed together and you go man that tastes so good. But what really [00:18:00] tastes good to you is that the jelly is at the peanut butter and and the same is happening right now.
[00:18:05] With vitamin D in this sun a more powerful system is at work when you sit in the Sun and it's called the Milano court and system. The Milano court system is the reason you and I get dark when we sit in the sun. We have a lot of melanin. The more melanin you have the more likely your ancestors spent a lot of time in the Sun from an evolutionary perspective.
[00:18:27] We developed this protective mechanism where we get dark which actually diminishes the production of vitamin D. Ironically, however, Milano court and hormone is produced in the Sun and there's each cell has for four separate Milano court and receptors and they do everything from reduce chronic inflammation increase libido, cause the microbes in your gut to switch to those that prefer your body to be lean.
[00:18:57] I mean when you look at the Milano court and. [00:19:00] You can't help but go man. We must give vitamin D A lot of credit really doesn't deserve.
[00:19:06] Coach Rob Regish: [00:19:06] Yeah, I mean that's incredible just to sit here and think about it. So Mindy you can't sense light but I bet you can tell when you're getting liberal amounts of sunshine.
[00:19:16] Mindy Hartman: [00:19:16] Oh, I feel so much better and you know, it just it just feels so good. I mean that just it just feels so good on my skin.
[00:19:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:19:23] Yeah, well, this has been great tala great tips. Obviously we could talk about this forever and maybe we'll do it again in the future. Is there anything many that you wanted to listeners to know maybe about depression or your experiences with it?
[00:19:40] If you're
[00:19:41] Mindy Hartman: [00:19:41] struggling please reach out, please talk to someone as Rob and Carl have have said. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem don't do it. There are people that will be affected by that. What kept me going when I was struggling and 16 years old. [00:20:00] There was a single mom who was there for me?
[00:20:03] And you know, she said you need to promise me you won't you won't do anything and and I didn't and you know, we talked daily for a while when I was at my worst and just knowing that that someone else knew and that I couldn't do that to her. I couldn't leave her. Knowing that I felt that way and you know and have her feeling guilty that she didn't.
[00:20:22] Reach out to someone else but I just I just needed that one person. And so please reach out to someone and get help there is hope may not be easy. But there's hope
[00:20:33] Carl Lanore: [00:20:33] I still have one more question Rob if that's if I can ask. Do you think some of your depression is affected by what is now called non 24.
[00:20:45] Do you take melatonin now?
[00:20:48] Mindy Hartman: [00:20:48] I didn't used to but I have been recently and I do think that it has helped a little bit with my sleep. I don't know. I think my depression has been caused by a whole lot of things and [00:21:00] it's not really easy to sort out. I do know someone else has been a
[00:21:03] Carl Lanore: [00:21:03] prescription drug for non 24 is just a modified version of melatonin that they can prescribe and make money on and I've always said, you know, if you saw someone who suffers from non 24 probably could benefit from just taking.
[00:21:17] Our tonin at sundown since they can't tell the sun down, but they can tell the pineal gland in the brain that it is. So I was curious about that. Then I wanted to read a poem to you that just seems appropriate with our discussion of the sun. I wrote this poem on June 12th day after my birthday on 2017.
[00:21:39] I was inspired to write this poem while laying in the sun and the poem is called Ode to the sun. I lay down and close my eyes and you're there. I feel your warmth caress me familiar like every other time I pray to you heal me and I'll never leave you always take me back. You really
[00:21:59] Coach Rob Regish: [00:21:59] wrote [00:22:00] that yeah, but I like that and I
[00:22:02] Carl Lanore: [00:22:02] I say
[00:22:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:22:03] I'm
[00:22:03] Mindy Hartman: [00:22:03] a sun worshiper and in two ways.
[00:22:06] They worship the capital sson of God and I don't don't literally worship the S un because he created it but I sure love it and you have a
[00:22:16] Carl Lanore: [00:22:16] website tell the listeners your website where they can find you. I
[00:22:20] Mindy Hartman: [00:22:20] knew my website is out of sight s IG HT ministries.com and you can find more info about me there and my contact info.
[00:22:28] There as well
[00:22:29] Carl Lanore: [00:22:29] cool having you wanted a very very thank
[00:22:31] Mindy Hartman: [00:22:31] you so much.
[00:22:32] Coach Rob Regish: [00:22:32] Very cool. What
[00:22:33] Carl Lanore: [00:22:33] can I take one quick commercial break. We'll be right back with your questions and answers and pick up the show from their stay tuned. Welcome back to the blueprint power. That was an interesting discussion, wasn't
[00:22:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:22:44] it?
[00:22:44] Yes, I'll tell you she's an incredible voice out for radio.
[00:22:49] Carl Lanore: [00:22:49] Yeah. I know she does and you know, it's amazing the information that we cover on this show.
[00:22:53] Coach Rob Regish: [00:22:53] I know it's going to send just learn to shut up.
[00:22:55] Carl Lanore: [00:22:55] You know, it's like you know it I get I get messages from people on [00:23:00] Instagram and Facebook all the time and even through email and you know, they're like I just found your show.
[00:23:07] I can't believe how much great information there is and times that by four days a week. I mean, it's just you know, you know when I die, it's going to be an amazing. Body of work left behind and I have to make sure that I set up the proper mechanisms to make sure that these files stay out there.
[00:23:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:27] Yeah. It's an incredible Legacy man. Really
[00:23:30] Carl Lanore: [00:23:30] is Evan Provo says after protein powder fish oil intra workout essential amino acids. What would you use? For someone that wants to lose weight a gram of testosterone a week, by
[00:23:42] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:42] the way.
[00:23:43] Carl Lanore: [00:23:43] I have to admit I'm a backup to a grandma weak man intramuscular. I feel effing amazing.
[00:23:49] Just got to put that out there just gonna put
[00:23:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:51] that
[00:23:51] Carl Lanore: [00:23:51] out there.
[00:23:52] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:52] Well, maybe we'll talk about that later. But what the real answer to this question isn't another supplement and [00:24:00] I'm not saying there aren't some supplements that could help you further. Brought the reality is the three that you're using right now are plenty to help facilitate changes in body recomposition.
[00:24:15] Now notice what I didn't say, I did not say weight loss. Ninety-nine out of a hundred people only care about the scale we've covered before why that's not a good idea. But you know suffice it to say I said body recomposition big difference versus fat loss and given that I'm actually doing this now it's fertile ground for discussion.
[00:24:41] So after a few more Jiu-Jitsu experiences where I guess now too early I made a decision. To drop 20 or so pounds, but more importantly lose 10 of fat and replace with [00:25:00] 10 of muscle or some mix then other words. I can tell you this is what I've learned in not just this time, but doing it in the past the single most important variable in being successful.
[00:25:16] Is Diet there's just no question about it. What and how much you shovel into your mouth every day matters and it matters a hell of a lot because it will make or break you a gram of testosterone the week or not and whatever other Super Supplements you're on diet is the most important variable so.
[00:25:42] With that being said, I'm going to share with you a little bit about what I'm doing now. And what's working for me because I do think there are Ties That Bind here for a lot of people number one. I'm using a intermittent fasting approach six [00:26:00] days low-carbohydrate with intermittent fasting and then I have a 24-hour one day a week.
[00:26:08] Carb up if you will so what's the cycling ketogenic diet, but it's a 6 on one off there is relief once a week the first six weeks of this. What I've done is I've left the table. Satisfied so in other words, I'm not stuffed new or my hungry when I push away from the dinner table. I'm just satisfied as the week's go on.
[00:26:32] I'm going to start. I've already started this leaving the table just a little bit hungry right during those low carb intermittent fasting days since I am an ectomorph in prone to losing too fast. There's probably going to come a day when within the next two weeks. Have to Institute a carb Spike.
[00:26:56] Let's call it Wednesday or Thursday of the week [00:27:00] during the week and that simply involves one very high carb meal. Okay, but and this is the important part it always comes after a weight training workout. Which gets us to training? I can tell you that the single biggest mistake people make. When trying to lose weight is they lighten up on the weight and the up the Reps and it is going to it's going to backfire on you every time.
[00:27:35] Okay what that does is it sends a signal to the muscles that there aren't any more heavy weights around to lift. So there's no need to be is it because he's big and strong and carry as much muscle and sure enough. Within a few weeks of instituting that that type of workout you'll notice that you will start losing muscle and remember muscle is [00:28:00] the metabolic currency that keeps your metabolism humming along and that's intimately tied to face fat loss.
[00:28:07] Now. I'll also tell you that I'm beginning to switch by training percentages from a 50/50 body weight to weight ratio. More to 70/30 70% bodyweight stuff as I get lighter and lose more fat. I may even move to an 80/20 and and so once I've gotten to roughly the area that I want to be 225 with a lot different body recap.
[00:28:36] I will institute. What I refer to as lactic acid tolerance training sessions with you know, I've discussed it before five or six compound movement stacked on top of each other. No rest in between each one and then when you're done with one round you rest a minute and begin the next one ultimately [00:29:00] try building up to five rounds of that every third workout.
[00:29:05] I'm going to lift heavy weights with long rest periods in between sets and again that goes back to you don't want to lower the weight. It's a big mistake. My cardio has been a mix of sled Sprints which have been non-stop right of the goal of getting to 10 minutes non-stop start with a hundred pounds when you can no longer Sprint with that down to 75.
[00:29:30] 50:25 and it'll ultimately you're just sprinting with the sled the point is you go into you can go no more. So I do that but also you can't do that every workout. So I have a 1-mile run. It's kind of a jog. I've gradually been increasing the speed every week. And of course my rolling sessions at Jujitsu.
[00:29:55] Okay, I can tell you I already feel. [00:30:00] Let's say smaller in close but interestingly enough people have come up to me and they in the gym and they're like wow, man, you look bigger, right and so it's the old it's the old. I don't know. What do you want to call it optical illusion, maybe when you're 225 and really lean you look a lot bigger than I was when I was 245 and chubby.
[00:30:27] Okay. So the other thing to keep in mind is this I'm 50 years old the older you get the more important. This gets carry around a healthy body composition and take some of those tips to do it.
[00:30:44] Carl Lanore: [00:30:44] Okay, the next question comes from Simon Demers, excuse me. I've bumped my fish oil up like you said a few weeks ago and can't believe what a difference it made just getting out of [00:31:00] bed in the morning.
[00:31:00] However, I still have a knee issue. That won't go away any other suggestions what we'll have you have you had an x-ray. Have you had a scan of it? I mean, come on help us out here a little
[00:31:12] Coach Rob Regish: [00:31:12] bitter a knee injury is probably the most debilitating you can suffer in my opinion. As an athlete because I thought it was a hurt lower back.
[00:31:21] It's not I could still do hip belt squats and and develop my legs. You know, I've blown out a shoulder I could still Squat and deadlift, but if you blow out a knee bad enough, you won't be able to even perform leg extensions. Never mind, you know movements that actually build muscle to your point though Carl first and foremost get an accurate diagnosis.
[00:31:46] From Medical Professional because misdiagnosing it yourself can delay treatment and in the case of arthritis, there's not much you can do once your bone on bone. I [00:32:00] learned that lesson the hard way. I thought I had elbow tendonitis. I let it go for years. I may have been able to do something about it while there were still some cartilage there Unfortunately today.
[00:32:15] There's no cartilage. I'm literally bone on bone and my options are very limited. So get an accurate diagnosis. That's first and foremost if it's a tendon issues. I can tell you I've seen people do really well for whatever reason pushing a weighted wheelbarrow up a slight incline. It works wonders for them.
[00:32:39] I wish I could tell you why but I don't know the mechanism behind it. It just does you may want. Or even need crutches. If so, then what you know you call you said it once your triceps and upper body load
[00:32:56] Carl Lanore: [00:32:56] the most underestimated work out in the [00:33:00] world is do cardio with crutches.
[00:33:02] Coach Rob Regish: [00:33:02] Yeah, I mean think about think about the thousands and thousands of reps that you do
[00:33:07] Carl Lanore: [00:33:07] dude you your first of all your triceps will explode your shoulders will explode like all the muscles in your shoulders will explode your.
[00:33:16] Lats will explode and I mean fast like within like if you really had to go around on crutches within three or four days your swole.
[00:33:26] Coach Rob Regish: [00:33:26] Yep,
[00:33:26] Carl Lanore: [00:33:26] because think about this, you know, you do 10,000 steps a day on your Fitbit, you know, I just have not tried doing 10,000 steps a day on your hands right on your arms on your triceps on your shoulders on your pecs.
[00:33:39] Try doing 10,000 of those a day because that's what you're doing when you're going around on crutches.
[00:33:43] Coach Rob Regish: [00:33:43] Yep, so that's going to be a blessing in disguise. Otherwise, I want you to remember this. You do have one good leg. And what that means is you can perform unilateral movement such as one-legged squats, you know, either [00:34:00] off a box or holding onto a belt.
[00:34:02] That's hanging from a power rack at first until such time as you can you know actually do one-legged squats. There is some evidence in the medical literature that training your good leg can benefit your bad one. Although, you know, don't be concerned. If it doesn't it's just, you know, you're going to be down for a certain amount of time with the injury.
[00:34:25] Otherwise, I can tell you the following things have helped. Tremendously in the case of my elbow and other people's injuries csis quadrangular Iris. Glucosamine chondroitin collagen DMSO and probably the most underrated and underappreciated one boswellia Serrata those thing and fish oil they make tremendous differences.
[00:34:54] In Turkey meant of course, that's just I guess an assumption [00:35:00] in my mind at this point after seeing the difference that it's made in myself and others some of those tips I would recommend in this is a big one. The Glucosamine in some form for everyone north of 40 whether or not you're experiencing pain or not.
[00:35:19] There is too much evidence showing that there is if there is at least some cartilage left glucosamine can make a big difference. I can tell you even in my case where I'm bone on bone in the elbow. Glucosamine is the difference between me being able to get through a set of handstand shoulder presses and not even being able to kick up into a handstand.
[00:35:45] Never mind bend my elbow when I came off of it glucosamine has been on the market for 20 years. It's had repeat buys for 20 years. There's a reason for that. [00:36:00] So I hope those I hope those tips help, you know injuries try to look at them as learning experiences. That's what I'm doing. Yeah,
[00:36:08] Carl Lanore: [00:36:08] and get diagnosed.
[00:36:10] Like you can't guess why your knee hurts you got to find out for sure because then you can take the appropriate action to fix it Marty Lund says. I read somewhere that like sojin and was good for fat loss and 5 Alpha hydroxy, like sojin was good for muscle growth and. That most supplement companies didn't know the difference.
[00:36:32] Is that true? And if so, why do you have like sojin and not 5 alpha-hydroxy in progenitor X?
[00:36:38] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:38] Yeah, I know precisely what article this guy's referring to long story short. It's completely Bogus the assertion that lack sojin in is for fat loss and 5 Alpha hydroxy, like Sachin is for muscle growth is completely bogus it goes back to.
[00:36:57] One guy's website [00:37:00] and his opinion on that website the author of the article. This is interesting rails against XD stare on products calls them a scam. They don't work but he does cell A5 alpha-hydroxy like sojin and which it you know, go figure because Lex origin and is an analog. XD sterile, which means if functions in the same way just on a lower milligram amount.
[00:37:30] So it goes back to the opinion of one man and his website. It's absolute nonsense just as an example in 1976. The Russian researcher scientist and Godfather of equity research. Dr. VNC Ross. He studied for different analogs referred to variously as compounds 1 through 4 Flex Ogen and was one of them all of them was fought were found to increase the weight of the [00:38:00] muscles as well as the internal organs.
[00:38:02] Okay. So again, all of them were found to be anabolic so to speak not want any where have I ever. Seen research pointing to Lex Ogen and not being anabolic and burning fat instead of the other one building muscle again. This is a guy who sells primarily protein but he's called XD a scam and but Lex origin and he'll sell look either in my mind.
[00:38:31] Anyway, you have I all work or none of them do and. They all work to varying degrees in my opinion. If I didn't think Lex religion and had Merit. It wouldn't be in progenitor X it's not inexpensive. It's not easy to Source. Okay in combination with the other ingredients though, it pairs well, and it adds to the overall punch of the product getting you better results faster.
[00:39:00] [00:39:00] So look if I gave this guy that wrote the article if I gave him a six-week run of Lex origin and then a six-week run of 5 Alpha hydroxy Lexington it I guarantee you he wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Neither would most neither would most
[00:39:15] Carl Lanore: [00:39:15] peace and that's the truth about I just about everything that people think.
[00:39:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:20] Right. I mean if I give you straight caffeine and I give you a slightly different form of caffeine, you're not going to be able to yeah,
[00:39:28] Carl Lanore: [00:39:28] I give you a guar I know with the same amount of caffeine in it. Exactly.
[00:39:31] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:31] So there you go.
[00:39:34] Carl Lanore: [00:39:34] Okay. So let's get the next question. The next question comes from John Laurentiis.
[00:39:40] He says whatever happened to metrics. I mean the MRP product that came and individual packets. That was a good product. They will all the rage in the mid-90s, but now you can't find them can't find most of metrics as products anymore.
[00:39:52] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:52] Well, you can't find them are piecemeal meal replacement products, you know, a lot of people think metrics was the first [00:40:00] MRP in reality.
[00:40:01] It wasn't there was a product. I don't know if you remember it was called metabolites. And that really was the first meal replacement powder, but regardless Mr. P's were parked car powder usually maltodextrine part protein powder and they some of them had a sprinkling of vitamins minerals or other things tossed in it would be fair to say that metrics was the most heavily marketed and distributed them RP in the original version.
[00:40:30] To your point a great product. Okay, but then the floodgates open and every other company had to have one most of them were used in the dieting sense and why because simply because they were pre-measured amount of right calories proteins carbs and fats and the first iteration of metrics. I'll never forget.
[00:40:53] It came into canisters. Based on plus it seemed to work like magic I can you don't [00:41:00] long time muscle mag column columnist. Jerry brain. Mmm. He wrote a very interesting piece once he subsisted on metrics and only metrics for like three months and he ultimately lost a ton of fat no muscle and he was never hungry.
[00:41:18] Which which sounds awful curious right? He had plenty of energy and he remained strong despite these big losses in body weight so speculation and it's only speculation was that metrics had a little something extra in it, at least in the first batches today as I mentioned Mr. P's are all but dead and part of that is the cost of protein as we all know is through the roof.
[00:41:47] And individual packets themselves are in order of expense, you know a magnitude greater than just getting two pounds of proteins
[00:41:57] Carl Lanore: [00:41:57] how you know, that's because when metrics first came out [00:42:00] there weren't any commodity protein products at that time there weren't there wasn't any protein factory or what's the other guy?
[00:42:10] Yeah Dante trudells company, you know where you could buy? Bulk protein powders 4789 dollars a pound you got to remember that the landscape has changed the prime and everybody's got a protein product and quite frankly. The reason that thrive has had a hard time is because I'm not a commodity protein.
[00:42:32] I'm not buying $3 a pound protein and just labeling it and and marketing it at $9 a pound. You know, I'm actually blending a bunch of really expensive ingredients into it which kind of puts me with metrics was back in the beginning could remember metric started because dr. Scott Connelly developed a protein powder to use with burn victims that actually caused their skin to grow back and heal faster because it [00:43:00] guess what it was high in collagen.
[00:43:04] Connolly introduce collagen back in the day now everybody's got collagen protein, right? So that's you know metrics was able to charge $3 three fifty four dollars for one of those packets today. They wouldn't survive and proof of that is that it's gone.
[00:43:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:43:20] Yeah. So if you're really missing them look you can you can make your own you don't just take one packet of.
[00:43:27] Sugar-free pudding mix a scoop of Thrive and the scoop of unflavored karbolyn, you know that that will give you about a two to one mix of clean burning carbs, right High molecular weight modified starches the best protein on the market and it's going to be have the consistency of like soft serve ice cream.
[00:43:48] So there it is and all you're doing yourself MRP.
[00:43:54] Carl Lanore: [00:43:54] Yeah, I've always made my own Mr. P's personally just caught, you know with raw milk [00:44:00] and all sorts of different ingredients raw eggs. I just find it's better.
[00:44:04] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:04] Those are the best mom.
[00:44:06] Carl Lanore: [00:44:06] Can I miss one can grosh Co he's the next question right? Ken Ken gross go says if I'm going to try and control cortisol.
[00:44:14] What's my best bet supplement wise first of all, You don't want to control cortisol all day long. You just want to control it at night. But that's a different discussion. Good good.
[00:44:25] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:25] There are a number of products that do so show some promise. So I'll go down that list and then I'll get into you know, but I guess you really should be doing the first is probably phosphatidyl serine.
[00:44:40] It is somewhat pricey, but I have a daily dose of anywhere between two and eight hundred milligrams for extremely intense workouts or or you know cortisol really run amok it's been helpful to the people that I've spoken to. Anyway. Nobody is quite sure how csis works, [00:45:00] but I suspect there is a mechanism at play there that controls cortisol.
[00:45:04] I am absolutely convinced. Bhakti lowers cortisol and it's a big reason that shines on a diet speaking of which a diet extremely low calorie diets will trigger lots of cortisol. So does overtraining and lack of sleep. Those are your biggest ones training diet rest were back to the fundamentals. So the first thing I would do is ensure that number one, you're not starving yourself right like a lot of.
[00:45:36] Young girls do the next thing I do is I would keep workouts to 30 minutes no more than four days a week and now we get to sleep. You should be getting anywhere from seven to ten hours, you know, depending on how heavy your training schedule is the fact is though almost nobody I've spoken to gets enough and in many people many [00:46:00] people listening are in a chronic sleep deficit what can help melatonin.
[00:46:06] Velarium passionflower l-theanine tryptophan Gaba in zma as well as highly bioavailable minerals. All of those are effective to varying degrees of just takes them. You know personal experimentation, I would tell you that using Gaba plus melatonin zinc and magnesium aspirate citrate War picolinate as long as it ends and 8ee.
[00:46:35] Those are all highly effective at least in my case. I would work up to three to five grams of Gaba on an empty stomach. In addition to helping, you know, putting helping you fall asleep and staying asleep. There is research showing greater growth hormone output. Now, you know, it's a different argument whether or not that translates into more muscle and less fat but look it helps you sleep if [00:47:00] Gavin doesn't agree with you glycine the sweetener and Thrive can do the same a lot of the same things although.
[00:47:08] You're going to have to start a little slower another words, you know, 2 or 3 grams and then fry working your way up to 10 to 12. L've whereas Gaba is relatively tasteless glycine is very sweet. So, you know pick one melatonin perform so many functions in the body. I have no hesitation in saying to everyone listening if you're 35 or older I'd be using.
[00:47:35] You know, it was rated the single most cost effective anti-aging compound by the life extension Foundation some years back, which should tell you something. I have talked to people that do well on anywhere from 3 to 20 to 50 milligrams of melatonin. And you know, you're it's a personal thing. You got to see what works [00:48:00] for you zinc and magnesium.
[00:48:02] So many reasons to be taking them so many people are deficient you need it. Anyway the soil that we grow our crops in today is depleted from over farming and a lot of other things take it at night with your Gaba your glycine make every effort to control but not in this is the big thing not eliminate cortisol, right?
[00:48:28] It's there for a reason. It's like testosterone your body needs it. Don't try to totally eradicate. It just control it. So keep that in mind as you make these moves to lower your cortisol.
[00:48:43] Carl Lanore: [00:48:43] Yeah, and then don't get crazy about lowering your cortisol during the daytime, please it's the silliest thing in the world.
[00:48:47] You want cortisol High during the day low at night and as raw pointed out the cheapest easiest way to lower your cortisol in the evening is Take 3 milligrams of melatonin at sundown and forget about all the other stuff because that's the [00:49:00] biologically appropriate thing to do. Yeah, okay. Joe premise says did you ever find out what your friend died from?
[00:49:09] I know you guys were close and it literally affected you or your son too. By the way. How is your son doing? Is he going to follow in your footsteps?
[00:49:18] Coach Rob Regish: [00:49:18] Yeah, and thank you for asking that I'll simply say that there was an autopsy performed but nothing's been made public that I've heard and that's.
[00:49:30] Understandably up to the family's distress discretion. I personally think it was a stroke. He looked like a million bucks on the outside, but every joint in his body was wrecked. So it's so he was riddled with arthritis and just to give you an idea. He had to artificial hips by age 40. He once told me I look like one of those shiny apples.
[00:49:54] That's rotten on the inside. So, you know, he kind of he knew it [00:50:00] in a few weeks before he died. He checked himself into the hospital with unresolved stomach issues. He could not for whatever reason keep food down and they discharged them without really finding anything or telling him what it was and but this is probably the most telling one of few days.
[00:50:19] Before it happened. He died in his sleep. His left arm went numb. Okay, my wife noticed it, you know, he was curling dumbbells and he could only get his left arm about halfway up to you or me. That would sound alarm Bells off right to him. It was I'm sure it was just one more a campaign that he was dealing with.
[00:50:42] Look when there's that much inflammation in your joints. It's going on elsewhere to like. Blood vessels in your arteries over time. He probably developed a blockage. I'm guessing, you know, it could have been a stroke but it doesn't really matter right? I mean [00:51:00] whatever it was, he's gone. I can't bring him back.
[00:51:04] My son was hit by this very hard because Doug always had something nice to say to him. He was one of the adults that actually treated Nick like an adult he would engage him in conversation. Having said that I still hear from Doug and I've gone into that in the past. But I mean, I never believed in this stuff until it started happening.
[00:51:28] But too many things are going on to be coincidence. They'll be going on, you know, they're going on to this day as far as my son goes. He's 13. He's really coming along. He's six feet tall. He's this tall as Ian. Yeah, and he just hit a hundred fifty pounds. He can now do full chin UPS dips. He's trapped bar deadlifting and he can he can squat on one leg 5 reps with 50 additional pounds of weight vest.
[00:51:57] So look, the important thing [00:52:00] is he's healthy. We are blessed beyond words with that whether he does what I do later. I don't know I you know, I hope so, but maybe not here's the bottom line not a single one of us. Knows the day or the hour when it's your time, it's your time. There is nothing you'll be able to do about it what you can do.
[00:52:22] Now is live your life to the fullest and be as good to other people as you want them to be to you because I assure you that just like you and I dug never thought in a million years. He'd go to bed one night and never wake up.
[00:52:40] Carl Lanore: [00:52:40] And that's the way to do it folks. Yeah. Rest away Die In Your Sleep is the best.
[00:52:45] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:45] Yeah, man, you know other than going in the gym. I'm you know, I'm glad he hoping he never felt anything, right?
[00:52:53] Carl Lanore: [00:52:53] You know II said this on a show and I published it on Facebook and it came [00:53:00] back up from three years ago. It was a memory that I re-shared but it doesn't matter how or when you die. What matters is how you lived?
[00:53:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:53:10] Yeah, it's a great. That's it.
[00:53:12] Carl Lanore: [00:53:12] That's it. So give everything you got to every day that you have and don't worry about the days that you don't have right don't even worry about.
[00:53:21] Coach Rob Regish: [00:53:21] Hundred percent
[00:53:21] Carl Lanore: [00:53:21] so we're going to take a quick commercial break and when we come back we're going to do the blueprint tip of the day and then we're gonna do a little banter because my producer Sean can earn Shield said we have to keep doing the banter everybody loves the banter and he's my producer.
[00:53:34] So I have to follow his instructions stay tuned. We'll be
[00:53:38] right back.
[00:53:39] Coach Rob Regish: [00:53:39] Welcome
[00:53:40] Carl Lanore: [00:53:40] back
[00:53:41] Coach Rob Regish: [00:53:41] to the will
[00:53:41] Carl Lanore: [00:53:41] Propel
[00:53:42] Coach Rob Regish: [00:53:42] our.
[00:53:43] Carl Lanore: [00:53:43] The Rob what is the blueprint tip of the day?
[00:53:46] Coach Rob Regish: [00:53:46] Tip of the day has to do with something that I saw so much of yesterday. I just had to talk about this and I'm talking about winging it in the gym.
[00:53:57] I Musta spoke to [00:54:00] half a dozen people tragically in their late 20s who had been training in some cases for 10 years. But outside of new begins they have completely stalled and it's all because they're just winging it. So we're going to talk about that right now waiting. It is a popular term right for pretty much making things up as you go along.
[00:54:27] You can do that with your training your diet or or any part of life. Really. In fact most that's exactly what most people do because it's a lot easier than thinking right, especially critical thinking or investing in someone or some information that can help you. Okay, for some people that's that's the barrier, you know, it isn't fun and it for sure isn't very convenient.
[00:54:55] So they're just going to wing it. So I just want to give you the example and in each [00:55:00] case. These kids were late 20s are typical 20, you know something your old he decides to go to the gym and lifting heavy is enough. That's all he knows. So that's all he does. He's gained some muscle. So he at some point in time, he must have been doing something.
[00:55:19] Right? Right as far as diet goes. There's no way he's tracking calories nevermind macros. He'll make sure though that he buys in consumes a lot of protein every month because well, that's what everybody else does right one day, though. And it's not long after he begins training. He hits a major Plateau.
[00:55:44] Everything comes to a screeching halt the scale doesn't budge the weight on the bar won't either so we might decide to resolve to eat more but the only things that are getting bigger or is waistline and is [00:56:00] grocery bill. He's already taking supplements, right? And that is really where the people will invest their time and money and they think they're stepping up their game.
[00:56:14] Okay, so maybe he orders some pro hormones or whatever is hot this month because he doesn't know that a lot of the products that he's buying don't even contain what their label claims he can understand. Why even now? He's not gaming you taking all these super supplements that the manufacturer saying or you're the answer to all of your prayers.
[00:56:40] Well as my subscribers are going to find out in a few days when I release the September newsletter a lot of big-name Brands don't contain anywhere near what their label claims but be that as it may be. He just hangs in there for a few more months [00:57:00] and maybe things will turn around. So it's back to the cycle of the same old training routine lots of protein and these ordering whatever product is off this month.
[00:57:12] The reality is this. He's not going to look or perform much different at age 35 than he did at age 25 think about that 10 years. And is absolute prime will have been squandered because he decides to wing it. Now. I want you to compare that to the guy who hires a trainer a coach or consultant or what have you invest in something some expertise other than what he understands his gym sessions now have a clear defined goal and he's hitting these goals.
[00:57:52] He's using a diet that is consistent with those gym goals and it's doable. It's something he can live with [00:58:00] the supplements that he does decide to use are actually true to label and he gets every next best thing that comes out and happens every month. You know it. Every Super Supplement that comes out he gets vetted prior to purchase.
[00:58:20] Which means he's got a lot more money left over every month and I guarantee you he will be bigger stronger and leaner at age 35 than he did at age 25. Here's the bottom line. I want you if you're listening and you know, if this is true you you know, if this is you I want you to stop ringing. And get on board with me or someone like me or someone's information like mine or even another person's information because once that decade or more is gone it is gone for good.
[00:58:58] So if you're between the [00:59:00] ages of 15 and 30 and you're listening to this, this message is all the more urgent because the amount of muscle. That you build during that time 15 to 30, maybe 35. I've will determine how you how much muscle you have for life. It's going to determine how you look it's going to determine how you feel and it probably is strongly correlated with longevity.
[00:59:29] We know from studies lean body mass and Longevity are strongly correlated. So when it comes to this issue, There are really only two types of people in the world. Number one. Most people who think they're serious about training, but they never actually do anything about it. And number two the Five Percenters that is the small percentage of people that are serious about their training.
[00:59:56] They don't just talk it like that they walk it [01:00:00] and they actually do something about it Consulting with someone. Provide, you know subscribing to various forms of information whether it's mine or somebody else's stuff. You're either one of those two people. So today right now. I need you to look in the mirror and ask yourself this.
[01:00:22] which one of those two people are you? And if you're the latter one, like I know a lot of guys are out there. I really look forward to hearing from you because I guarantee you in 10 years. You will look back and say it's the best thing I ever did.
[01:00:42] Carl Lanore: [01:00:42] Very good stuff and that's the big problem with most people.
[01:00:44] Nobody has them roadmap that you wouldn't you wouldn't take a trip. You wouldn't go you wouldn't take your family to Disney World without having directions. You wouldn't say. Oh, I know it's South we'll just head south will get there know you may end up in Georgia,
[01:00:57] Coach Rob Regish: [01:00:57] right? And so what's the danger of the dangers getting [01:01:00] lost?
[01:01:01] It's the same danger and your physical culture Journey. Yeah, you can waste a lot of time being lost. Yep. So so what does Sean want to talk about this?
[01:01:13] Carl Lanore: [01:01:13] I'll just banter so I to out there that I'm back up to a gram of week of testosterone and I feel amazing, you know, I spent the better part of 10 years at a gram or more.
[01:01:25] Of testosterone
[01:01:26] Coach Rob Regish: [01:01:26] and how much were you coming from?
[01:01:28] Carl Lanore: [01:01:28] I've been taking 250 350 a week.
[01:01:32] Coach Rob Regish: [01:01:32] Okay. And so how long did it take after you bumped it up?
[01:01:36] Carl Lanore: [01:01:36] Oh two days
[01:01:38] Coach Rob Regish: [01:01:38] two days.
[01:01:39] Carl Lanore: [01:01:39] I felt it in two days. And I got to be, you know, I've talked to some doctor friends of mine.
[01:01:45] Coach Rob Regish: [01:01:45] Yep,
[01:01:46] Carl Lanore: [01:01:46] who you know and I may take it down to seven fifty a week.
[01:01:50] To be honest with you just because of the Simplicity of doing 1/3 milliliter shot a week as opposed to two to milliliter shots a week right now [01:02:00] and I went back to intramuscular is no, you know, I have to say this and you know, posthumously I would never try to. Mar the reputation of somebody and dr.
[01:02:15] John Chrystal was a friend an ally and a teacher but the reality is that I am the one who first started talking about subcutaneous testosterone injections in 2010. I have the I have the audio of him coming on my show and telling me that it wasn't a good idea.
[01:02:35] Coach Rob Regish: [01:02:35] Well
[01:02:36] Carl Lanore: [01:02:36] and the reason I did it was because I just had you know.
[01:02:42] I've always been at a gram of week for at least 10 years and there's a there's a portion of that time 2008 to around 2010. When I started dating a Lisa that I was doing two to [01:03:00] three grams of oils a week plus plus orals.
[01:03:03] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:03] Wow,
[01:03:04] Carl Lanore: [01:03:04] and so I've always spent time in those higher ranges and I really never got any side effects from it.
[01:03:10] I'm not. I'm not a high aromatized. I've never had gyno.
[01:03:16] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:16] Medikit,
[01:03:17] Carl Lanore: [01:03:17] my hematocrit has been high it has but it's not been like what I had my hematocrit checked if I would have said. Oh, yeah, I'm doing two grams of tested Grandma Deca and 600 milligrams of trend ballon an ant a two-week right now.
[01:03:28] Nobody would have believed it because my hematocrit was on the high side of normal,
[01:03:33] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:33] right?
[01:03:34] Carl Lanore: [01:03:34] My blood pressure did go up. There's no doubt about that, but that was the trend. More than anything else.
[01:03:41] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:41] Hello.
[01:03:42] Carl Lanore: [01:03:42] Good.
[01:03:42] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:42] Let me ask you to you at age. What 6061 at age 61. Do you find it difficult to eat enough
[01:03:51] Carl Lanore: [01:03:51] now?
[01:03:52] That's another thing my father had to the day. He died ugh fantastic appetite. [01:04:00] Yeah, and I do too. In fact, my problem is I've been eating too much and now I have to cut back.
[01:04:07] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:07] Well, that's a blessing right because you're going to do a gram of test a week and
[01:04:11] Carl Lanore: [01:04:11] got to feed yourself. Yeah, no. No, so I was eating 5,000 calories a day last week and I wasn't I wasn't paying attention to clean calories.
[01:04:20] Like like I don't know if you are you familiar with these Power Crunch bars.
[01:04:26] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:26] I've heard
[01:04:27] Carl Lanore: [01:04:27] of them. So Power Crunch bars, are these waffle wafer bars? You know that like they wafer and then filling cream chocolate on top all different flavors are really good 15 grams of dairy protein 5 grams of sugar per bar.
[01:04:47] The only thing I don't like about them is they do have wheat in them, which I don't do well with wheat, there's no doubt in my mind about it. I know this for a fact but a box has five bars. Each bar is [01:05:00] 200 calories. Let's say each bars 205 calories 13 grams of protein 5 grams of sugar 10 grams of total carbs.
[01:05:09] 13 grams of fat. So I was eating a whole box a day. That's a thousand calories.
[01:05:19] Coach Rob Regish: [01:05:19] Wow.
[01:05:21] Carl Lanore: [01:05:21] I was eating them after meals like two bars after a meal the meals consisted of you know, pound of beef chicken liver worse turkey. I was having lots of salads. I was eating a lot of salads the problem with salads is that they fill you up.
[01:05:41] They're kind of like Halo calories or then I switch the broccoli. But I ate 5,000 calories a day again not clean calories
[01:05:52] Coach Rob Regish: [01:05:52] and after
[01:05:53] Carl Lanore: [01:05:53] I got and I got bigger and stronger in a week.
[01:05:56] Coach Rob Regish: [01:05:56] Well, and now how about carbs? Are you doing moderate [01:06:00] carb low carb?
[01:06:01] Carl Lanore: [01:06:01] Well, as of today I cleaned up my diet this week.
[01:06:05] I'm meal prepped a grilled my chicken. I made my broccoli. I'm getting about 200. About 200 grams of carbs a day right
[01:06:15] Coach Rob Regish: [01:06:15] now. Okay, so that's that might not be low low carb, but that's certainly not super high carbon.
[01:06:20] Carl Lanore: [01:06:20] No, no and a lot of that is green. You know, I have a bowl of oatmeal in the morning a serving of oatmeal that's like 34 grams of carbs.
[01:06:30] But I mean, there's no doubt in my mind. That. I was taking there was some weeks where I took 600 mg Sub-Q. I didn't notice anything. I didn't feel
[01:06:43] Coach Rob Regish: [01:06:43] it.
[01:06:43] Carl Lanore: [01:06:43] I just think it just it just bleeds into the system. So slowly that you just don't really notice it when you do an intramuscular injection 50% of that dose 50% of that 500 milligrams hit you in the first three days.
[01:06:58] Coach Rob Regish: [01:06:58] Yeah,
[01:06:58] Carl Lanore: [01:06:58] so you feel
[01:06:59] Coach Rob Regish: [01:06:59] it. [01:07:00] And and so when. When you're using this amount are you also using pregnenolone DHEA and the other metabolites?
[01:07:10] Carl Lanore: [01:07:10] I do take DHEA not consistently about. Four days a week. I take a hundred milligrams of DHEA. I'm not taking any pregnant alone or anything else at this point in time.
[01:07:25] I'll go get blood work done in another two weeks. See where those others
[01:07:30] Coach Rob Regish: [01:07:30] are. Interesting. Yeah,
[01:07:31] Carl Lanore: [01:07:31] so but I mean, I just feel so much better. I feel so much better in the gym. I'm sleeping better and deeper. I have I still have some gut issues but my gut issues are going to be cleared up because of my diet changing.
[01:07:48] My gut issues got worse because I my gut got great. And then I just threw all caution to the wind and started eating crap food and drinking alcohol drinking coffee and my gut gato left up again. So [01:08:00] now I have to fix it again.
[01:08:02] Coach Rob Regish: [01:08:02] Is there any supplement that you use other than protein that you think pairs particularly well with that amount of testosterone
[01:08:11] Carl Lanore: [01:08:11] now, I just think it's food.
[01:08:13] Yeah, I just think it's cool. I mean I I'm I'm having so my morning meal is two scoops of thrive. A cup of egg whites some water in a shaker bottle and a serving of oatmeal. That's my first meal every morning.
[01:08:30] Coach Rob Regish: [01:08:30] Well good.
[01:08:31] Carl Lanore: [01:08:31] That's 65 grams of carbs. I mean of protein 34 grams of carbs and not a lot of fat not a lot of fat at all and then post workout.
[01:08:43] I usually have a half a pound of beef and then right before the show today. I had another half a pound of beef. Yep, after the show today. I'll have a half a pound of chicken with broccoli and then I'll probably have more chicken and broccoli for dinner all in all I'm getting [01:09:00] about 260 grams of protein a day right now.
[01:09:06] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:06] Yeah,
[01:09:07] Carl Lanore: [01:09:07] and that's easy for me. I could I could easily eat more than that.
[01:09:11] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:11] Yeah, still eating liverwurst. Well
[01:09:13] Carl Lanore: [01:09:13] that is much once a week. I have 1/2 pound of liver worse. Just because I don't want all the iron right now.
[01:09:22] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:22] Yeah, well, that's very interesting.
[01:09:25] Carl Lanore: [01:09:25] But yeah, I mean, it's just like night and day going back to intramuscular injections and I'm taking a milligram of bpc 157 a day and I can tell you that it's healing the soreness at the injection site because usually.
[01:09:40] After I do a shot like so right now I'm doing two shots a week. Right right leg left leg next week, right leg lifts. So I'm doing an injection in my right quad and my left quad every week and usually by the second or third week I start to feel sore. Because you know, you're not giving that area a [01:10:00] chance to heal and you're sticking the needle maybe still a half inch away but still in the same area of the muscle and but I got to tell you man.
[01:10:08] The bpc 157 is definitely is a game-changer for injection site. Soreness. There's no doubt in my mind about it because I'm taking a milligram a day actually. When I started to reintroduce bpc 157, I was taking a milligram twice a day first thing in the morning and post-workout now. I've cut back to a half a milligram first thing in the morning and a half a milligram post-workout.
[01:10:32] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:32] That's really interesting. I mean you seem to be doing the opposite of what I'm doing using a very minimal amount of test because I'm getting blood test right every freaking week. Not that I've seen them, you know. Test for testosterone, but. they have believe it or not. The doctors have largely disengage even though my create, you know, [01:11:00] creatine kinase levels are still four times normal, but that only came after I presented them the studies showing that.
[01:11:09] CK levels and athletes are a lot different than in the general population. Yeah, but it's you know, it's interesting. I would I like to use more testosterone. Yeah, but you know as I just told you my body weight stuff is at 70 30 and honestly, it's probably going to 80/20 soon. I don't think the extra bloat of all that testosterone is I
[01:11:35] Carl Lanore: [01:11:35] am not bloated from this testosterone again, I don't aromatize.
[01:11:39] Really? Oh hell. No. I haven't I haven't put on any weight from this testosterone per se like in other words. I'm not old or puffy looking there's no no, I will tell you this. I did use some MK 677 for about five days. Yep, and that made me hold a lot of water.
[01:11:56] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:56] Yeah, you hear that all the time.
[01:11:57] Carl Lanore: [01:11:57] Yeah, I won't use it anymore. I mean, I have a couple [01:12:00] bottles I've had for a long time. I thought oh, you know held it let me add this in the thing. I don't like about it is it causes? GH bleed, you know a constant bleed of growth hormone, which has been shown to actually desensitize the body from the effects of growth hormone, but I thought let me just see what it adds to the mix.
[01:12:18] All that added was water retention.
[01:12:21] Coach Rob Regish: [01:12:21] And how about peptides if you're using peptides instead 4gh release is a true that you hold water from those.
[01:12:29] Carl Lanore: [01:12:29] No because you're pulsing like it's normal. You know, I'm using I don't use CJC 1295 with DAC I use growth hormone releasing hormone the modified.
[01:12:38] Growth hormone releasing hormone, which is just momentary causes a pulse.
[01:12:43] Coach Rob Regish: [01:12:43] Right
[01:12:44] Carl Lanore: [01:12:44] and I do use those several times a day.
[01:12:46] Coach Rob Regish: [01:12:46] No right?
[01:12:48] Carl Lanore: [01:12:48] No DAC because I don't want that GH bleed. Everybody wants that GH bleed. They think it's good for you. It's not good for you. It doesn't help you.
[01:12:55] Coach Rob Regish: [01:12:55] I've listened to some of your peptide shows and they really are eye-opening.
[01:12:59] So, [01:13:00] you know keep that series coming for
[01:13:01] Carl Lanore: [01:13:01] ya. I'm actually going to be so right now. I'm right running a thymus and beta for once a week. Bpc 157 pretty much daily. I may take a day off over the weekends. I'm using oxytocin post workout at 25 I use which is a whopping dose. It actually it actually gives me a head rush.
[01:13:23] I have to sit still for a little while. I am using I am using test Morel in in the morning one milligram. Gah, rp6 and modified growth factor 1 through 29 that do those simultaneously hundred micrograms of each. Let me think. Are you do use melanotan but not as much because I'm getting a lot of sun right now, but I probably use it once a week.
[01:13:50] Yep, if that and I'm very 25 micrograms. That's all I take that very very little it's not tanning me. And then at night I take HCG [01:14:00] a hundred fifty. I used before bed helps me sleep deeper. I think that's pretty much it right now, but I will be adding in thymus and Alpha 1 and I will be adding in ll3 seven again to get my gut straightened back out.
[01:14:17] Coach Rob Regish: [01:14:17] So melanotan to is that the one that you want to Roto-Rooter job on the artery well
[01:14:23] Carl Lanore: [01:14:23] over time yet helps the body reabsorb arterial plaque and that's why I use it. I use it for its its anti-inflammatory effects. Its powerful powerful reduction in chronic inflammation in the body. It's powerful
[01:14:37] Coach Rob Regish: [01:14:37] and I guess to that point.
[01:14:40] You know, I feel that the question beforehand and I'm just using performance-enhancing drugs. I don't need to use any supplements. Right and so my argument would be that might not be a bad one to use whether or not you have known inflammatory issues or not. And [01:15:00] obviously it depends on what you know what they're taking and orals are a lot worse for arterial health.
[01:15:08] But it's a good example of something that's legal for research purposes that can you know kind of Stack the deck in your favor. Yeah, absolutely. So
[01:15:21] Carl Lanore: [01:15:21] and give you a nice tan
[01:15:23] Coach Rob Regish: [01:15:23] exactly. Yep. Yep, helps helps erectile function to if I don't all
[01:15:29] Carl Lanore: [01:15:29] right. Yeah in higher doses you got to have higher doses
[01:15:33] Coach Rob Regish: [01:15:33] interesting.
[01:15:35] Carl Lanore: [01:15:35] Well, that's the banter. Yeah,
[01:15:37] Coach Rob Regish: [01:15:37] that's it. That's it for me. I think I thought we had a great show Mindy certainly opened up a lot of great insights and boy, I guess what blew my mind was the effect sunshine has for her even though you
[01:15:52] Carl Lanore: [01:15:52] can't see it.
[01:15:53] Coach Rob Regish: [01:15:53] She cannot sense any light.
[01:15:55] Carl Lanore: [01:15:55] Well, she can sense it on her skin,
[01:15:57] Coach Rob Regish: [01:15:57] right.
[01:15:57] I was gonna fail you just you know, [01:16:00] as somebody who loves the song you can feel it within seconds, right?
[01:16:06] Carl Lanore: [01:16:06] And her website is out of sight ministries.com. Yes,
[01:16:11] Coach Rob Regish: [01:16:11] she's interesting woman and certainly a good heart. So maybe in the future maybe we'll have her back up.
[01:16:20] Carl Lanore: [01:16:20] Absolutely. Yeah, and that's it for today's show.
[01:16:23] We will see you tomorrow with more superhuman radio. Thank you for listening today. Don't forget to visit coach Rob register.com. I'll be the strongest kid on your block by learning something new. There you go. See you
[01:16:36] Coach Rob Regish: [01:16:36] tomorrow. Alright, thanks for
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