[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] have you been wondering where I am where I've been? Oh man. I'll tell you in a minute. Let me get robbed on here real quick so we can talk about this Carl decided to go on a cruise.

[00:00:13] Coach Rob Regish: [00:00:13] Calling all blueprint Army fall in line. It's time for the blueprint Power Hour with Coach Rodriguez on the Superhuman radio network.

[00:00:26] How you doing Robert? Well Carl. I'm much like you fighting off a cold that I probably got from my wife who unfortunately came down with it, but she was under European Cruise so he can or if

[00:00:40] Carl Lanore: [00:00:40] you took a cruise also.

[00:00:41] Coach Rob Regish: [00:00:41] This year. Well, she flew over there to Italy and then that I think they cruise to Greece and a few other places on a river cruise then I don't know.

[00:00:50] I think I've acquired an open ocean or river lady. Maybe I okay. Yeah, but needless to say, you know, you get sick on vacation like that and

[00:00:57] Carl Lanore: [00:00:57] no no. No, it's so here's the deal. [00:01:00] I've come to the conclusion. So Alicia always wanted to cruise on the Queen Mary 2. It's a prestigious. Transatlantic cruise ship that has a history that is unbelievable was used to transport military infantry men.

[00:01:18] I'm gonna be doing this all day. So bear with me during World War One and World War two and you know, they painted it gray. They took all the amenities out of it, then they put the amenities back in and and she's still at work, you know taking people. From the UK to the United States and all over the globe.

[00:01:37] It's an amazing ship. It only holds about 2,000 passengers, which is small by today's standards some of these cruise ships that a whole date 10,000 passengers. But anyways, okay. So tip number one. If you take a cruise. And there are sick people on the cruise ship. You will be sick too. [00:02:00] It's a.

[00:02:01] It's communal you you people are coughing. They don't kind especially the kind of people who take cruises. I'm sorry to say this most of them by and large a very old very sickly very out of shape that whole day revolves around drinking booze and eaten food. All day long, they cough constantly.

[00:02:24] They don't even cover their mouths when they laugh and we were we were on and we were on a hop-on hop-off bus tour which was one of the excursions we took get off the cruise ship and in this particular case in Vancouver in Halifax. Nova Scotia and the lady sitting next to me on the bus. It's coffin and she's not even covering her mouth.

[00:02:52] And I said to Eliza I could feel her breath spraying my face and I said we have to get off we have to get off the bus. We [00:03:00] got off the next stop we got right off. It was too late. Not that night, but the night after that I have felt my sword my throat got sore my ears started to hurt. I'd the son of them just lady made me sick and everybody on the bus on the cruise ship was coughing everybody.

[00:03:16] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:16] Yeah, I do not have this as bad. I think his you do or my wife but be that as it may it'll you know, it hangs around for a long time and it'll really zap your energy. I noticed that I noticed it right away when you know, I got to I want to go to the gym it took my normal pre workout stuff. Didn't feel a fairy don't

[00:03:37] Carl Lanore: [00:03:37] feel

[00:03:38] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:38] bad enough.

[00:03:40] That's kind of when you know, at least when I

[00:03:43] Carl Lanore: [00:03:43] do and I had the good sense not to try to train and I was training every day on the ship. I was really proud of myself. I use the equipment I use the free weight I use the sauna. What

[00:03:54] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:54] was the General? I

[00:03:55] Carl Lanore: [00:03:55] always nice. I mean, this is a luxury cruise. I mean is it the gym was at the front of the boat?

[00:03:59] It was [00:04:00] huge.

[00:04:00] Coach Rob Regish: [00:04:00] Yeah, my wife said the same thing. Yeah, you said

[00:04:03] Carl Lanore: [00:04:03] it was amazing. I they had every kind of machine I needed I did I had great workouts. I actually trained every body part every day. I felt great but then once I got sick, I was like I can't I can't train

[00:04:14] Coach Rob Regish: [00:04:14] I'm not going to try it. Yeah.

[00:04:16] Well, I mean, it's almost as bad as being an airplane. The Germans don't have anywhere to go. Well

[00:04:22] Carl Lanore: [00:04:22] the worst part was coming home. So we went we got off the ship in New York in Manhattan. We stayed overnight in. Which was nigh really fun. We stayed in in Midtown Manhattan at the Hilton. We saw my daughter Taylor went up to the place that you work the Diamond Exchange Place.

[00:04:38] She works and the next day. We flew home from Saturday morning. We flew home from from Manhattan and you know when your ears hurt. And they're a little plugged up when you thought to land the pressurization changes. Excuse me. Holy crap. [00:05:00] My ears hurt so bad. I told Lisa I said I just want to get off this plane.

[00:05:04] I just wanted my ears will killing me because the pressure changes and my ears were already inflamed from whatever. This is would that I had my throat. I slept 11 hours last night and I slept 11 hours the night before and I slept wasn't like I'm I I just couldn't get out of bed. I mean this thing really knocked me out.

[00:05:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:05:23] And I bet you're tired today and oh, yeah, you're 11 hours of sleep. Yeah, that's yeah, that's pretty much how it goes. But hey, you know, we do everything we can I'm using copious amounts of vitamin C garlic and some other immune boosters and knock on wood. I seem to be handling it better than she got it.

[00:05:43] Although to be fair. She you know, she hadn't he's on a cruise ship and an airplane. So she had nowhere to go. It was a germ incubation

[00:05:51] Carl Lanore: [00:05:51] fact, and that's why I at least have said to me that that's it. Last Cruise. I'm ever taken I said I'm with you.

[00:05:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:05:56] Yeah create you know what we took a cruise on our honeymoon.

[00:06:00] [00:05:59] I would say if I were to do it again do not go on a Carnival Cruise if you want to sleep, you know, if you want to be able to Bunch it drunk idiots running around the cabin carnivals for you. But well

[00:06:13] Carl Lanore: [00:06:13] they the cute the Queen Mary 2 is exactly opposite of that. I mean we had we had a couple nights.

[00:06:20] You have a tail wagging in your and you're like you to do is look in the mirror.

[00:06:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:06:23] That's so cute. Molly the Wonder Dog.

[00:06:26] Carl Lanore: [00:06:26] We had a couple nights why to put on a tuxedo we had like a formal events to go to it was really nice. It was a Class Act. Don't get me wrong, but the kind of people that gravitate towards cruises that it's just not me.

[00:06:37] Just getting all so my goals now to recover. This week and get back into the gym and start making progress next week. That's all I can do right now. Mike Anderson says, I have a question about vanadyl sulfate. You know, I haven't thought about vanadyl sulfate long time never had a chance to use it and was wondering if it did anything also.

[00:06:59] What [00:07:00] were some other supplements around that timeframe did any of them actually work Vanadium salt Vanadium? Banana? Vanadyl sulfate did work did

[00:07:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:07:10] it did apparently have an effect in those that had some sort of blood sugar disorder, right girl. So let's get into it here this kind of going back in the time machine, but.

[00:07:21] Way back when this was the mid 1990s, there were really three Van Andel products one was made by a company sport Pharma and I don't think they're around anymore. It was straight vanadyl sulfate and then they came out with vanadyl ph that was kind of their little angle on it small 7.5 milligram tabs used a lot of it Ultimate Nutrition a company right here in Connecticut.

[00:07:44] That just went out of business. They've been in the business. Decades, they had a 10 milligram product now used even more than that. And then Bill Phillips came out with something called v2g, which was Vanadium and a [00:08:00] couple of other trace minerals. I think it was, you know, Looking back that was a lot of money to spend on something that if I sat down and thought about it, and I didn't even really need so so picture this I'm 25 years old.

[00:08:18] The end of Shane's writing about it right in his columns in his muscle Maggie included a certainly included it in body Opus. I think his last book that he wrote so if he's writing about it, and those people are talking about it I'm using I did not stop to think what this product does and whether I needed

[00:08:37] Carl Lanore: [00:08:37] right?

[00:08:37] You just took it, right?

[00:08:39] Coach Rob Regish: [00:08:39] Exactly. And so, you know, long story short. It was a. Glucose disposal agent or

[00:08:47] Carl Lanore: [00:08:47] well, it was so so first they thought it was an insulin sympathizer or insulin medical insulin sensitizer, but then they found that it worked through a completely different pathway because they they actually did a couple really [00:09:00] good human studies with it where they showed that it stimulated glucose uptake.

[00:09:07] through a different mechanism than the insulin receptor and I want to say it was like. Glute three or glue to a glute one or glute for something like that. But but they also discovered that. Once you took it long enough, you didn't have to keep taking it because your body stored it like other other metals.

[00:09:28] Coach Rob Regish: [00:09:28] I was gonna say there was some risk of toxicity. Yeah with extreme youth which I probably qualified for personally. I you know, I was waiting to see people turn blue after I read that

[00:09:39] Carl Lanore: [00:09:39] but it was that nice blue color was it it was yeah. It

[00:09:42] Coach Rob Regish: [00:09:42] was like a sparkling blue. Yeah. Yeah, and in fact, I remember a friend of mine that calling me up and asking me.

[00:09:50] Is everyone in here Jim using those little blue tablets? And so, you know, we finally deduced he was talking about vanadyl sulfate right and that [00:10:00] the other little blue cap, but. Look for that time period Van Der rohe debuted with a lot of other products like ultimate orange and glutamine and creatine and so clearly at least a couple of these things work, you know a federal Works, which was in ultimate orange.

[00:10:22] The creatine of course work, but then you know, we've then are these kind of other supplements that turned out to be not so great like glutamine and vanadyl sulfate. But again put yourself in my position. You're 25 years old. Do you really want to miss out on any of this?

[00:10:38] Carl Lanore: [00:10:38] Yeah, right that Micron of that Micron of muscle that you wouldn't get if you didn't.

[00:10:43] Coach Rob Regish: [00:10:43] Right, man, I mean I got in the tail end of the years where there was nothing. I mean nothing that works and all of a sudden, you know, like a half a dozen things did and this was kind of in that mix so, you know, that's why I took it if I was a little more [00:11:00] Analytical in my thinking and reasoning at the very least I would have gotten.

[00:11:06] Blood work done showing right My fasting blood sugars to see if there was any effect on them. The fact of the matter is I didn't like a lot of kids. I suspect at that time. I was just shotgunning whatever I could get my hands on legally anyway, and you think. So that's the story on vanadyl. Did it work?

[00:11:25] Yeah, there was some research saying it did personally. I don't think like any other glucose disposal Asian. If you don't have a problem disposing of glucose, they're not going to do anything for you. Yeah, but but you know, there are certainly berberine now the are isomer of lipoic acid those things if you got blood sugar disorders, they're worth looking into

[00:11:46] Carl Lanore: [00:11:46] by the way.

[00:11:47] I want to just mention. We don't know what happened yet. But Flex wheeler had emergency surgery to remove the bottom portion of his right leg

[00:11:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:11:56] Yeah, and

[00:11:58] Carl Lanore: [00:11:58] the story is a nice one [00:12:00] acknowledge that by the way, I forgot to mention today is is October 22nd 2019. For those of you listening to the show hundred years from now.

[00:12:09] My producer Sean can earn Shield will get mad at me. If I don't

[00:12:13] Coach Rob Regish: [00:12:13] say

[00:12:13] Carl Lanore: [00:12:13] that. Yeah, but Flex wheeler had sir emergency surgery yesterday to have. The lower portion of his right leg amputated junkies complicate was kind he went for something else and there was complications they like that to take the leg off.

[00:12:25] So we don't know any more than that wishing him a speedy recovery.

[00:12:30] Coach Rob Regish: [00:12:30] Certainly. Hope it's not malpractice for you gotta believe. You know, it's possibility.

[00:12:34] Carl Lanore: [00:12:34] Yeah, Todd ghatak says you mentioned craze a few weeks back and that it felt healthier than some of the dirty stems now on the market. What did you mean by that?

[00:12:45] I thought it was spiked with amphetamine.

[00:12:48] Coach Rob Regish: [00:12:48] Yeah. Okay. So so what follows is my opinion in my opinion only of crazed versus let's say stimulants today. So way back [00:13:00] when craze debuts into the Pre-Workout category, which was starting to get very crowded and it is a runaway bestseller. I decide to find out why.

[00:13:12] So I order two tabs and I took it and I remember a number out of the gate thinking Hmm. That was different. It didn't I didn't get a big, you know hit you over the head and central nervous system stimulating effect, which is what I was looking for out of those products at that time. It was only later that I kind of refined its use that.

[00:13:41] I was able to ascertain, you know, this is really good stuff. And if it wasn't nobody would be buying it and repeat buying it and stocking up on

[00:13:50] Carl Lanore: [00:13:50] it and nobody and nobody would have went after them. If it didn't work the way it worked. Nobody would ever decided Well, what what the hell's in that stuff, we gotta find out and it was it [00:14:00] wasn't it wasn't an amphetamine.

[00:14:01] It was a precursor

[00:14:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:14:03] to a precursor of

[00:14:05] Carl Lanore: [00:14:05] yeah would be coming in feta me. In your body, but whether or not it converted to that was a different story, but think about that if it wasn't as good as it was nobody would have cared.

[00:14:15] Coach Rob Regish: [00:14:15] Yeah, and the fact of the matter is competitors did care right because they suspected there was a little something extra in it and it's my opinion based on lab tests that I've seen that there was and but the real issue is this it wasn't.

[00:14:34] It wasn't disclosed on the label. I mean they were many different Peña analogs that they put on there and you can spend months and years tracking that down, but we get to the Practical effect of the product. when you took craze, you didn't get all crazy and you know and jittery and that sort of thing you did become extremely [00:15:00] focused and.

[00:15:02] It wasn't out of care and out of control focus. It was a very much in control focus. It puts you perfectly in the zone. Okay, so just picture ultimate tunnel vision without the jitters. For many I suspect it was the perfect stimulant. I rather doubt it will be making a comeback anytime soon because I do not I do not believe it was naturally occurring if it was and they've got the science to do it and do it again, but the fact of the matter is it tastes didn't feel natural.

[00:15:41] Let me put it that way. So having said that. We will all have to await the next arrival of a natural compound or another time dodgy stimulant will I will say this if you like your sports products and a lot of [00:16:00] people do then their latest releases particularly in the stimulant category can be found over at Predator nutrition.com.

[00:16:09] They're out of the UK. But I think you'll find if you go to German Sports Page, you're going to see all sorts of things released since crazy. There was a frenzy there was crazed to there's something called rise now, you know clearly if you're a pre-workout, Junkie. That's that's probably the place that you want to be.

[00:16:33] I have no idea. What's in those products. I have no idea. I mean even really kept up with the feedback a little bit here and there seems to be hit or miss.

[00:16:43] Carl Lanore: [00:16:43] I was under the impression that craze in its original form was still available in the UK because it wasn't illegal there, but I guess I'm wrong about that.

[00:16:53] Coach Rob Regish: [00:16:53] No, I know enough about the folks over there who have been asking for just that. Hey, you [00:17:00] know this this new stuff is pretty good, but what you know, could you get to bring back the original craze? Could you make it back please now? I don't know maybe some people might be selling it behind the counter or something, but there's certainly no OTC market for.

[00:17:14] Original crave. So look, here's the Bottom Line craze was a huge hit and it's easy to see why I only wish that mystery ingredient was with naturally occurring but it is what it is for now. We will have to wait and see what the next big thing is and personally I think history is going to repeat itself.

[00:17:38] I don't I don't know what companies going to do this, but. Personally, I think a young upstart new company is going to introduce something with another designer stimulant may not be in the second or third batches, but it will happen again. It's a very common occurrence in this market. That's just [00:18:00] how it is.

[00:18:00] Carl Lanore: [00:18:00] A lot of companies knowingly introduced questionable ingredients and make millions of dollars. Waiting for the FDA to send them a cease and desist letter and then they stopped but they've already made the money. This is a common tactic in the supplement industry has been going on for four decades their bar manufacturers that put a lot more sugar and a lot less protein that bars the bars sell out people love them and then someone catches them call them on the carpet, but they've already made millions of dollars.

[00:18:32] So they're happy. So it's it's really sad that that goes on.

[00:18:35] Coach Rob Regish: [00:18:35] Yeah, and I've seen another company but I won't mention their name. They came out with a fantastic pre-workout to the hardcore Market. Hardcore Market loved it. The name is out there. It's established the next thing you see it shows up in Vitamin World GNC completely different water down ingredients for the math for the mass Market.

[00:18:59] So, you know [00:19:00] personally I hate that because I'm part of the hardcore crowded don't use us, you know to get your product name out there and then kill it by watering it

[00:19:10] Carl Lanore: [00:19:10] down. Next question comes from West Justin. He says I know you're a big proponent of bodyweight exercises and I and doing increased amounts of it as you age.

[00:19:20] Can you give me an idea of what you're doing right now? I'm around the same age as you. And just want to make sure I'm doing this, right.

[00:19:30] Coach Rob Regish: [00:19:30] yeah, so to refresh my guidelines on body weight exercise or this you simply take your age and. Bodyweight exercises should take up a percentage equal to your age.

[00:19:45] So here I am a couple months shy of 50 years old and I can tell you that instead of for example standing barbell presses, which I can no longer do if you'll even if I wanted to with this right elbow instead of [00:20:00] that I'm doing waited. And stand shoulder presses and for whatever reason probably because my elbows and arms are in the anatomically correct position.

[00:20:10] I can do those without any pain at all. And that's bone on bone in the Elmo Del Camino car. Yeah, no cartilage whatsoever instead of bench presses. I'm doing push-ups with my feet elevated or one-arm push-ups. Certainly chin-ups heavy weighted chin-ups on even chin-ups, you know with each arm and as I continue to lose weight because I'm dieting to get my waist out those exercises only become that much easier, right?

[00:20:45] I mean there it's a great trade-off, you know, you might be dropping weight. It might be seeing the numbers go down. But your strength is actually going up on chin-ups on dibs on push-ups on the handstand push-ups, you know, squatting movements [00:21:00] of various degrees. The point is it's going to treat you well now does that mean there's not a place for weighted movements absolutely not, you know, I will concede that pistols one-legged squats with bodyweight only.

[00:21:17] Are not going to hypertrophy your legs to the same degree that Waits well likewise, you know things like traps and upper back trap bar deadlifts are a core component of my lower body day. Right? So those are work into the mix the four-way neck machine. That's where it's we're going. We're getting a reverse hyperextension of my gyms.

[00:21:41] Ooh, that is another waited movement. That's simply. Can't be really duplicated by body weight stuff. So that's how I do it. I found the movements that work for me. They are incredibly challenging and there are a lot more gratifying. I [00:22:00] mean, you know being able to kick up into a handstand and do a full handstand push up, you know with additional weight 25-pound weight vest.

[00:22:10] That is to me. It's a lot more gratifying to grab a barbell. Just push it over my head because you have to have balance. You have to have a lot more balance. You have to have a lot more coordination and it's a much better movement for building muscle. Why because the body and weight are moving through space simultaneously, which can be said about virtually every body weight movement as a as opposed to.

[00:22:39] Lot of weighted movements where only the limbs and the waiter moving through space and not saying those don't work am saying it's much better to have the body in the way you move through space simultaneously the last benefit that will give you it naturally regulates your appetite. You're not going to be as hungry.

[00:22:58] Right as [00:23:00] if you're overloading your body with hundreds and hundreds of extra pounds every workout with free weights and that helps with that.

[00:23:08] Carl Lanore: [00:23:08] So you're so you feel like 50% of your training should be body weight because you're 50 now. And if I'm sixty one sixty one percent of my training should be body weight.

[00:23:19] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:19] Yeah, and I'll tell you what else it served me. So well, I'm thinking of bumping it up something like 60%. I'm either to be totally honest you could do a set of trap bar deadlifts as the only way to component of your extra and do the rest body weight stuff. You'll be an absolute beast beast, you know think about it.

[00:23:41] You add 10 pounds. If you add 10 pounds a week to your trap bar deadlifts reps of let's say 10 reps, you know in five weeks where you going to be 50 pound. Let's say start of 300 in 10 weeks. You're going to be at 400 410 you think you're going to put you think you're going to put on more muscle, [00:24:00] you know going from 310 for 400.

[00:24:03] It even if it takes you 20 weeks who cares that that's still not half a year, right? So something to consider

[00:24:11] Carl Lanore: [00:24:11] Rikishi and says, so I was looking again at FT stare own studies and a few others that have done it done on that would done on it. Most of these studies would never hold up in Western Medical journals.

[00:24:26] How can you possibly advocate for a compound in light of all of this?

[00:24:32] Coach Rob Regish: [00:24:32] I can advocate for it because I've successfully used it in one form or another for the past 25 years and know lots know

[00:24:40] Carl Lanore: [00:24:40] what somebody's is he talking about the ones done in Russia? I don't

[00:24:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:24:44] know it's tough to say because so many Studies have been done right in Russia in Japan in Brazil in Germany in Hungary in the United States, you know, they've been done literally all over the [00:25:00] globe.

[00:25:00] So, you know, you need to tell me which ones you don't agree with. First of all, though. I want you to understand this. This really shows a lot of arrogance many American researchers will look at any foreign journal and turn their nose up to it, you know because it has what I call not invented here syndrome.

[00:25:25] They don't they simply think that because it wasn't done in the United States. They're not going to be able to do the study correctly. And I find that incredibly arrogant, you know, think about it. If you're just counting both the abilities and the ethics of the rest of the world. Hey, you're in you're conducting a study showing each MB puts on more muscle that steroid.

[00:25:49] It doesn't it doesn't what's that say about you. I mean me there's

[00:25:54] Carl Lanore: [00:25:54] plenty. There's plenty of shoddy science right here in the United

[00:25:59] Coach Rob Regish: [00:25:59] States. I [00:26:00] just reviewed another one this morning and what it claimed was if you took 12 milligrams of Astaxanthin a day. That walking on the treadmill will have the same effect as a weight-bearing workout building muscles.

[00:26:14] Now wonder of Wonders guess who it was funded by

[00:26:19] Carl Lanore: [00:26:19] and astaxanthin company

[00:26:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:26:20] the fiesta xanthine company. So to your point there's a lot of bad science. Okay, and if it's not just overseas it's here too. But my point earlier about the Russian findings and and these other countries. We're have been done it think about this have been done in the test tube in furry Little Critters like mice and increasingly now in human beings they have all in one form or another shown positive findings.

[00:26:53] Okay every single one. It showed various degrees but in different [00:27:00] countries, so I want you to think about

[00:27:01] Carl Lanore: [00:27:01] that. Yeah, we have to be a conspiracy. I call these other cut all these countries got together one day and they said hey, we're going to stop publishing studies on activists are on and we're going to say good things about.

[00:27:12] Would you please do the same thing? And yeah, we'll all conspire we'll get together. We'll all lie about this one thing.

[00:27:17] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:17] Yeah, that's literally what would have had to happen. And so look what are the answer that I obviously love the answers clear. I do want to comment briefly on the latest study done in Germany and it's true some elements of that study could have been improved upon right that I don't think they used Excel for body mass index.

[00:27:40] It sounds like they did. I don't know if it was old-fashioned calipers or what have you and the protectee product itself had a hundred milligrams of leucine. So,

[00:27:51] Carl Lanore: [00:27:51] you know we didn't they do that. Why did they even do that? Like what was the purpose of that?

[00:27:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:56] Right there and I think everybody knows and understands a [00:28:00] hundred milligrams of loose as nothing isn't gonna do Jack.

[00:28:03] Okay,

[00:28:04] Carl Lanore: [00:28:04] but why don't it in there. Anyway just to like have come a point at it like well, why did you do that? You know,

[00:28:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:28:09] right exactly. So so my point is this you could look at any study and nitpick have this could have been done better. That could have been done better. I don't agree with this. I don't agree with that.

[00:28:21] Listen. You you can spend from today until the end of time debating people about whether this study was good weather. This study was bad weather. This needed to be done in that needs to be done. You need to ask yourself the question. Are they all conspiring to sell like these Darrow in the answer is no.

[00:28:44] That's her style and I think you will find additional human studies continue to prove my point. I used to get all the flag in the world and the you know what they love to throw my face. Show me the human studies. I don't care about studies on [00:29:00] rats. I don't care about what the test tube say. Show me a done in humans and when they finally did yes.

[00:29:06] We're at least one person said that's jock. It's no good. That study doesn't mean anything. So those people are never going to be happy, you know, and I heard

[00:29:17] Carl Lanore: [00:29:17] Once A lotta. Why does official position correct me is they haven't banned it

[00:29:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:23] yet.

[00:29:24] Carl Lanore: [00:29:24] But they're watching it.

[00:29:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:27] Have you seen that? Yes. The research is on that particular human study in Germany concluded by recommending that want to include at least their own as a banned substance under whatever chapter and verse of the banned list under other anabolic substance.

[00:29:48] I think it is probably prudent for wada to still take a wait-and-see approach because I don't think it conveys the advantage obviously that [00:30:00] steroids you but it's interesting because water you want to just wants to know the truth man. Why does the why does not interested in wasting its money or having to test for things?

[00:30:15] Very expensive lab tests for things that don't really work. It don't make money right think about that was just stupid. So we'll have to wait and see until then. I'm going to continue doing what I've been doing for 25 years. I use it almost every day now and I love.

[00:30:33] Carl Lanore: [00:30:33] We have a question when we come back from Matt bozak.

[00:30:35] We're going to take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back with more of the blueprint power our here at superhuman radio. It feels good to be back in the studio

[00:30:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:30:44] to tell ya.

[00:30:46] Carl Lanore: [00:30:46] So apparently I don't have the right questions in front of me. How can I

[00:30:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:30:49] watch actually I just that you have the version where.

[00:30:54] Didn't include the question that was sent to on air today. So just add that I have to [00:31:00] find it then

[00:31:00] Carl Lanore: [00:31:00] I'll find it. Oh,

[00:31:01] Coach Rob Regish: [00:31:01] okay I've got it. Okay.

[00:31:04] Carl Lanore: [00:31:04] Okay. So the next question comes from Matt bozak. He says I'm on HRT 200 mg a week of testosterone has definitely improved my mood energy levels and sex drive, but I was wondering what else I could take with it.

[00:31:17] To increase muscle building power. How about up your protein

[00:31:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:31:23] intake by a hundred grams a day. There you go round. You know, it's amazing. We finally get out of compound that works right the mother of all

[00:31:33] Carl Lanore: [00:31:33] hey. Hey, let me this is a good chance to plug something, right? This is the okay good not a sponsor of mine.

[00:31:39] This is Krogers. Break Free, it's four dollars and forty-seven cents a quart. It's liquid pasteurized liquid egg whites tastes, like water delicious doesn't feel like Snot. It's Ultra Ultra purified ultra-filtered literally tastes like water. Hundred grams of egg white [00:32:00] protein in that container right there.

[00:32:02] So get 2 of these a day and drink them around your normal meals that is grams of protein a day. That'll put on muscle. There you go here is

[00:32:12] Coach Rob Regish: [00:32:12] this a new product? I never heard

[00:32:14] Carl Lanore: [00:32:14] of they mean Kroger's is had this stuff Forever at least and I have been using it in the morning. I'll take two whole eggs and then a cup of these a cup of these is 25 grams of egg white protein.

[00:32:26] And I'll make my eggs with it. So they don't have all the extra fat but I get to good nice beautiful yolks, but I didn't feel like cooking. I don't feel good. I feel like really I feel terrible and I'm like, I'm just going to bring it with me and I've been drinking it. I drink two of them a day right now.

[00:32:42] It's 200 mg 200 grams of protein. You want 300 grams of protein a day drink 3. This is the cheapest protein in the world for dollars and forty-seven cents for a hundred grams of protein $4.97. Think about that.

[00:32:55] Coach Rob Regish: [00:32:55] Yeah, that's that's amazing. Also look for that. [00:33:00] Okay, so but but the point remains right we get on the mother of all steroids here testosterone and almost immediately be want to Stack

[00:33:10] Carl Lanore: [00:33:10] it.

[00:33:10] What can I take with it?

[00:33:11] Coach Rob Regish: [00:33:11] Yeah, right. So so this is. You know, you hit the nail on the head the compound that will increase your results. The most is food. It's very quite simply food. I talk about why I developed progenitor X to amplify food the more food. You eat the been good. If you got it, right the better your results you're going to get from virtually any bodybuilding

[00:33:38] Carl Lanore: [00:33:38] drug fact.

[00:33:38] I did a show right before my vacation. With Ronnie Milo Where We examined the study that shows that it's not your training but your lack of eating that causes overtraining now think about that.

[00:33:57] Coach Rob Regish: [00:33:57] Yeah, if [00:34:00] unfortunately the knee-jerk reaction by most people is just take more of what they're currently

[00:34:05] Carl Lanore: [00:34:05] if you if you added Deca and Trend to this makes you you'd feel you'd feel it.

[00:34:10] But you wouldn't gain any more muscle as you packed on the calories.

[00:34:14] Coach Rob Regish: [00:34:14] Yeah, and and in that respect it kind of depends right if you're eating the game muscles, I think we can all agree that extra protein creatine maybe beta alanine or the research proven and their good ideas. Okay. The real question is where do you go from there?

[00:34:33] If your HRT dock is on the Progressive side, you should know. There are two other FDA-approved steroids that they can still prescribed to you. If you have an injury those two being Deca and anavar we're going to go over each and the pup the pluses and the minuses and you should certainly know about those.

[00:34:57] The deck is certainly the more reasonably [00:35:00] priced of the to and of ours prohibitively expensive especially going through a doctor where insurance doesn't cover it. I don't know if you got insurance that covers it contact me at one your insurance Deco of course much cheaper. If you get a case is usually prescribed for injuries in the amount of a hundred milligrams a week.

[00:35:22] Okay? And what I hear from Adams what I hear from athletes is that they will look for them save it up and run anywhere from 200 to 600 milligrams per week. Right right along along with her. I would be remiss not to mention one of that has side effects. He very important side effect that being erectile dysfunction.

[00:35:51] Yes, some people can get around get around that with higher dose test.

[00:35:57] Carl Lanore: [00:35:57] But that doesn't you gotta if you [00:36:00] start using Deca, you gotta go slowly with it. You really don't. I would I would add in 50 milligrams a week to your current testosterone and I would do that for a couple weeks to a month before you go up to a hundred milligrams a week because I was taking two grams of testosterone and a gram of deca a week and it gave me erectile problems.

[00:36:23] Even though I was taking twice as much testosterone as I was deca.

[00:36:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:27] Yeah, I was going to say, you know, if it was me and I was out I'd also have Viagra on hand just in case because I have heard from some from some guys from really scary stories. I don't know how much of it is physiological. I don't know how much of it is is in their head.

[00:36:44] But I've heard from people where you know, they have erectile dysfunction a year later after coming off the stuff and if you think about it. Well,

[00:36:56] Carl Lanore: [00:36:56] that's a black but that because that's because of anxieties once [00:37:00] you went you get Deca d word. Yeah, then you always think you're going to get it like it.

[00:37:07] You don't realize if the DECA and that's anxiety

[00:37:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:37:10] driven

[00:37:11] Carl Lanore: [00:37:11] telling you you have to do something about that. That's a different story entirely. I had your conversation with Dave Palumbo because I waited like a month. I had no injections. I said, how long do you think it takes for this deck going to get out of my system.

[00:37:26] He said probably six weeks eight weeks top and I waited six to eight weeks. I was nervous and that was actually giving me issues.

[00:37:36] Coach Rob Regish: [00:37:36] Yeah so much of its in your head right now. I mean here it's not just you start shooting large amounts of hormones and you get erections. No, I mean even with Viagra right you need some sort of.

[00:37:49] Stimulation for it to work. So that is a obviously huge consideration before you go down [00:38:00] the Decker room. Edie's no laughing matter, you know, it's one thing if it just affects you the fact of the matter is it's going to affect your significant other.

[00:38:10] Carl Lanore: [00:38:10] Well if it CD from anxiety. It's not as worrisome to me as if it's Ed from vascular issues

[00:38:19] Coach Rob Regish: [00:38:19] because

[00:38:21] Carl Lanore: [00:38:21] the reason guys get Edie most of the time in today's environment is because they build they develop plaque inside the spongy portion of the penis that is supposed to fill up with blood.

[00:38:37] Well, if you're getting plaque in there where blood can't get in anymore, you got plaque other places that are more worrisome than your penis like in your arteries. And that's why they say whenever you hear people say Ed. Sometimes is the early warning sign of cardiovascular disease. This is what they're talking about.

[00:38:59] Because [00:39:00] if you're getting plaque in your penis, then you've got plaque probably in some of the major arteries in your heart to and and that's so that kind of Edie is worrisome. But the Ed from from a failed attempt because you're getting older you tend to be anxiety-ridden. There's a lot of things you can do for that number one cardio.

[00:39:22] I'm telling you cardio cardio cardio cardio 45 minutes on the treadmill walking in a nice. Leisurely Pace this lowers anxiety level this improves performance of all type. Number one. Number two meditation number three, make sure you're sleeping right because cortisol levels go through the roof and mr.

[00:39:45] Winky doesn't want to work because he's nervous all the time.

[00:39:48] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:48] Yeah,

[00:39:48] Carl Lanore: [00:39:48] so those kind of easy. They're fixable and they're not like oh man, you're going to die here. But the other ones where it's vascular you can end up with a stroke. You can have plaque building up in your brain.

[00:39:59] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:59] Yeah, [00:40:00] excellent points.

[00:40:01] I noticed the same thing with trim or at least related, but that's another story for another day. So that's definitely an Amar on the other hand. It's usually prescribed in the amount of 25 milligrams a day for up to 90 days. You know, the problem is the going price at least from what I've been able to ascertain for that cycle is in the neighborhood of a thousand dollars, you know, it's crazy, you know, and it's doubtful insurance is gonna

[00:40:31] Carl Lanore: [00:40:31] you know, using out of our female movie stars that are getting ready for action movies, right?

[00:40:38] God bless your hands and type. I'm not saying her. But there's times where they're getting they're getting ripped and they get muscular for a show, but they don't want to end up with an enlarged clitoris and hair growing on their face. They're using anavar.

[00:40:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:40:51] Right? So it's very popular with women always has been

[00:40:54] Carl Lanore: [00:40:54] yeah, very very very very very low antigenicity very very low, but [00:41:00] very very high anabolic to androgynous Janessa T ratio.

[00:41:04] Coach Rob Regish: [00:41:04] Right, and then finally, we'll turn our attention to one of the things that's legally can legally be prescribed and that's growth hormone. Given what we're seeing though from research that ties our ability to boost. Uh, I would take a good hard. Look at CJC 1295 right without deck stacked with a good cheat, you know growth hormone releasing peptide like get from Marella hatred or Vic's right, uh rp6 right now, but just what someone to further increase your appetite.

[00:41:34] You know that we're back to food.

[00:41:36] Carl Lanore: [00:41:36] Hey, I just take it three or four times a day. That's what people miss out. They take it in the morning and they think they're done. No, you gotta men pulse growth hormone. Every three hours women every hour and a half. So after that first shot in the morning, if you're a guy count three hours before you eat at least an hour after you've already eaten and at least a half hour before you're going to eat you take another [00:42:00] shot and then you get half hour.

[00:42:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:03] Right, and I've used those and I can certainly say that they're effective. I've never used Straight growth hormone. So I can't really speak to how great it is that building muscle and losing fat. I suspect it's a lot better at helping injuries. But here's the bottom line the best stack with.

[00:42:23] Testosterone for the steroid other than more food, right? And that's a big one more food is the big one is for most guys. It's usually just more and or different steroids lacking that boosting growth hormone, either through peptides or the real deal. I would look there next. It's largely. You know, it's largely lip service though, because most most athletes will simply use more powerful drugs like d-ball or amateur.

[00:42:55] All right from our trend from underground labs. I passed [00:43:00] out judgment on that but you know, I really don't think most athletes. I want to add a lot more muscle are going to select and of our place the depot. So and there's only one place they're getting that that's usually the black market. So more food though is the real answer.

[00:43:19] It really is because

[00:43:21] Carl Lanore: [00:43:21] either it's magic and people just don't get that. They did you get it you are you up your you get a container of Break Free from Kroger's that's a hundred grams of protein drink one of these a day in addition to whatever you're doing right now don't change what you're doing right now.

[00:43:35] Just drink one of these a day do that for a month. Watch What Happens

[00:43:40] Coach Rob Regish: [00:43:40] here is the for a month? In fact after get these for next week? I know there are studies showing that over feeding alone in the absence of training course added lean body mass.

[00:43:53] Carl Lanore: [00:43:53] Of course, if your body isn't going to only build fat it's going to build muscle and bone and everything else of [00:44:00] course, right?

[00:44:00] Yeah anabolism isn't discriminatory. It's not like oh anabolic. We're only going to pay attention to muscle. No fat muscle. Soft tissue everything

[00:44:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:10] never compete look at all these people that are 350 pounds

[00:44:13] Carl Lanore: [00:44:13] haven't been worked out hard look at that and look at that calves

[00:44:16] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:16] together.

[00:44:18] Carl Lanore: [00:44:18] Look at that.

[00:44:19] That's because of two things the stimulation of carrying that weight and the anabolic effects of their diet,

[00:44:26] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:26] right?

[00:44:26] Carl Lanore: [00:44:26] Let's just throw this up there real quick for Robert David. He's going to come back and listen later. He said I've always enjoyed when you both talk about the old supplements. I love reminiscing how.

[00:44:37] Your experience with old courses. I know the wieder workouts with very basic, but that's what I started with and I still added to my yearly routines. I also remember using my allowance as a kid to buy the universal body building courses. Can you go back to some of the old routines that you remember [00:45:00] love your show love listening to you.

[00:45:01] I'll listen after work.

[00:45:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:03] Yeah, you know what he brings up a great. Great topic here because although they were certainly not as popular as the supplements. The course is the information. Gave me better games and all the supplements come by and I'm talking about super squats. Right? I've had 30 pounds of muscle in six weeks provocative title, but I'm telling you now, if you put the work in you can do some amazing things Leo castas right beyond belief for Bulgarian burst training.

[00:45:35] I remember devouring those those manuals doing that this jaronda a muscle has six sides. And then I started of course to get into dr. Squat Fred Hatfield stuff, which led me into loading patterns and I found them from Germany and write all these other places. There was there was also I can't [00:46:00] believe I found this on YouTube Someone.

[00:46:05] Took the side regenexx total body building system. Okay from back in the day and he documented his progress, you know throughout and he went through what was in the supplements and but most importantly what the training and the diet was like and we all laugh about cyber genetics, but you know what the fact of the matter is, he was the first that I read about anyway that talked about training faster.

[00:46:32] About cycling calories and carbohydrates in relation to your exercise. He did come out and say it but specific amino acids taken before and during the workout some of which were nitric oxide enhancers. Stretching a muscle after it's been right tax maximally and I can tell you this is a huge statement the Siamese [00:47:00] Yonex leg workout was the most difficult workout I've ever done and if you if you Google this you'll see it, but just to give you an appetizer.

[00:47:09] 80% of your one rep max on squats you do what to you do? You can't do it anymore. You strip off half the weight you do it to you do it can't do it anymore. Then you back away from the bar and you do plyometric jumps you jump up into the air until your legs give out then it might still not over that you do bodyweight squats until you can no longer do them and then you do extreme stretching before returning.

[00:47:34] Okay, that was round one. He wanted you to do it. Four times and that was just the start of the workout.

[00:47:43] Carl Lanore: [00:47:43] They did that the one that Casey Viator did back in the day when he was training with Arthur Jones, and he literally like he trained and he passed he couldn't get up off the floor. He passed out he couldn't get up off the floor.

[00:47:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:47:56] The one supposedly were Jones put a gun to his head.

[00:47:58] Carl Lanore: [00:47:58] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, [00:48:00] it

[00:48:01] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:01] was it was version of that. But if anybody's listening and you have those cybertronics manuals, I'm certainly willing to trade or pay you for them because. There was value in it if you fight and I did if you followed the workout and the training to a tee for 60 days, you better believe you got results, you know, you got great results in put me in the hospital today that's type of training but there's Merit to it and you should you should.

[00:48:35] Seek it out and and use it. I dare say use it perhaps modified a little bit to cut down the volume because there's value there

[00:48:44] Carl Lanore: [00:48:44] eight an array has a good question and I have a good answer for him. He says do you forsake abs while you're overfeeding will

[00:48:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:51] grow your fourth and for yourself?

[00:48:53] Carl Lanore: [00:48:53] Yeah, forsake the leather word.

[00:48:54] Don't worry about your abs. They'll come back later. Oh and and he says it's because he and I belong to the [00:49:00] same Club. We are card-carrying fat people once fat people. Okay, so here's the easy answer. If you increase the protein, if you look at all of dr. Jose Antonio's work on overfeeding protein, these guys got leaner while they built muscle.

[00:49:18] So you're up your protein to three gram. Two-and-a-half three grams per pound of body weight cut back on your fats in your carbs make the protein to overfeeding. And you won't gain any fat. You'll still have abs you beer you get more muscular, but you won't get fatter. Once again drink a couple of these a day.

[00:49:38] Here's 200 grams of protein. Boom gone. There you

[00:49:42] Coach Rob Regish: [00:49:42] go. People forget the body burns up one and one-third its weight in whatever from out of protein that you take 1 and 1/3. Okay, that's why people on high protein diets despite the fact they can be high calorie lose weight. [00:50:00] Food For Thought yeah,

[00:50:02] Carl Lanore: [00:50:02] I mean look at any of Jose Antonio's work on overfeeding protein guy the guys that ate the most protein gain the most muscle and also lost the most fat at the same time.

[00:50:12] It's bad.

[00:50:12] Coach Rob Regish: [00:50:12] I would yeah, I wouldn't answer his question briefly just by saying you should certainly still train them to be strong. Yeah. Yeah, but but Hey, listen, if they disappear, I promise you they're still there. They'll come back when you

[00:50:27] Carl Lanore: [00:50:27] cut again. If you just increase your protein and not your carbs, you won't put on any extra body fat your abs won't disappear.

[00:50:36] Brian. Adia says a lot. I gotta clear my through.

[00:50:40] Coach Rob Regish: [00:50:40] I

[00:50:41] Carl Lanore: [00:50:41] had to take myself off camera for a second there. I was hacking. He says I know you recommend essential amino acids and use them in sentence. But Pepto pro has more science behind it. In fact, there's a study that says that die and tripeptides in Pepto Pro are superior [00:51:00] to both intact proteins and isolated amino acids knowing that how can you recommend EAS instead?

[00:51:08] Coach Rob Regish: [00:51:08] Yes, Brian

[00:51:10] Carl Lanore: [00:51:10] sounds like he I tell you one thing I got to tell you whoever this Pepto Pro company is they have good marketing because they brainwashed

[00:51:17] Coach Rob Regish: [00:51:17] him. Yeah. Look the fact is this Brian in one respect? Anyway, he's absolutely right because there is a study showing that guy and tripeptides. Our faster absorb than free form amino acids and basically anything else the

[00:51:36] Carl Lanore: [00:51:36] problem of the how can that be?

[00:51:37] I challenge that and I'll tell you why because a dipeptide is two amino acids bonded together. A tripeptide is three amino acids bonded together with with electrical Bonds in between them holding them together like a choo-choo train a freefall amino acid is one amino acid no bond. I I challenge that research.

[00:51:59] I would [00:52:00] challenge that research all day long because it doesn't make sense. When you look at it from a critical thinking standpoint. There's no bonds to break. That's why a free-form amino acid goes right through the lining of the stomach into the bloodstream. This is this is documented in science.

[00:52:17] Yeah. I don't buy it. I don't buy it. I'm sorry.

[00:52:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:20] I know what their answer to that contention will be but again we go back and forth all day long. The fact of the matter is this and the problem for the Pepto pro-people is this it doesn't seem to outperform certain combinations of essential amino acids in the real world now.

[00:52:38] I don't want you to take my word for this. I want you to go ahead and I want you to take if you can stomach it and much pepped up row as you would like. And then I want you to repeat that same process with 10 grams of essential amino acids. Not nearly the amount of Pepto fro that that you could [00:53:00] swallow given the same time.

[00:53:03] Right before during and after have all been looked at essential amino acids recover you faster and increase protein synthesis more provided. Right there taking pre workout and I suspect also slipped into a workout between sets. Although they haven't specifically looked at intra they have looked at three more importantly if you think about it, you can manipulate the ratios of these essential amino acids rather easily with Peta Pro or any hydrolyzed protein the dye and tripeptides.

[00:53:38] They've already been cleared. Right, and they can't really be altered by the time you get it home. There's no way there's no way you're cleaning different amino acid sequences, right? Neither one of them to be fair taste that great. But Pepto Pro is significantly more bitter because [00:54:00] casing from which kept the pros derived contains very high levels of prony the amino acid Proline and the bitterness right of those Proline Rich peptides is due to the nature of.

[00:54:13] the protein where. Problem is located basically in the middle of this peptide chain, the current product current Pepto Pro product will tell you it's bendy bit erised now taste doesn't matter to some people. I'm one of them but don't be fooled. This stuff is still bitter as hell. It's awful which would be fine.

[00:54:34] Right if it worked better than essential amino acids. The problem is it doesn't and it's inexpensive right experiment. Look, I have

[00:54:46] Carl Lanore: [00:54:46] nothing to contribute to this.

[00:54:47] Coach Rob Regish: [00:54:47] Okay, so go ahead guys.

[00:54:49] Carl Lanore: [00:54:49] So every towel on we all know what every Talent is, right? Yeah. Okay at a lan is a tripeptide every towel on must be injected.

[00:54:59] Why [00:55:00] because the gut treats it like any other protein if you took Epi towel on and didn't inject it but squirted it down your throat. The digestive acids would break it apart into their individual. Amino acids like it does with every protein that you digest. So this idea that you're putting die and tripeptides in your stomach and somehow they're bypassing the normal digestive process and entering the lining of the stomach.

[00:55:29] Is a lie and if it wasn't a lie, then no one would shoot penal on at Battalion or any of these other died and tripeptides. Peptide injectables, they would just take them and put them in their mouth. I mean you what you win now when we talk about absorption in the stomach, nothing nothing. Nothing.

[00:55:54] Nothing goes from the inside the gut to inside the bloodstream [00:56:00] faster than a free form amino acid. I don't care if it's glutamine. Arginine I don't care what it is. If it's a free-form amino acid, it means it's a single amino acid like a little capsule nothing attached to it and it's attached to nothing.

[00:56:14] Nothing goes from inside the stomach to inside the bloodstream faster than that. So this idea that. Diane tripeptides have some sort of magic is nonsense. And if it was true, then modern medicine would have harnessed that we wouldn't be injecting dye and tripeptides we would just. Eating them and go.

[00:56:33] Oh man, we can just eat more of this stuff. This is great. Yeah. I mean you got to use critical thinking here. You can't fall prey to Slick marketing you just.

[00:56:43] Coach Rob Regish: [00:56:43] Yeah, and like I said, you can prove it to yourself to if you want to but you know, that's that's literally how it works the final argument that they're going to give you is essential amino acids.

[00:56:54] We look if you use if you're eating enough protein you're getting that in your diet. You know, [00:57:00] whey protein is chock-full of essential amino acids. Well now again don't take my word for I want you to eat. However much you normally the protein today 300 grams get a from way get a from steak and chicken get it from wherever and then I want you to do the same thing, but take 10 grams of sexual amino acids before during your workout.

[00:57:22] You tell me. Which one you recover better from I already know the answer. There's Merit in Standalone essential aminos time with exercise and it's a lot more Merit than getting them in an intact protein strength from way or beef or chicken or fish or whatever.

[00:57:43] Carl Lanore: [00:57:43] We have a question that someone sent in do you have it there?

[00:57:47] Let me see if I can

[00:57:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:57:49] you hold on a second. Yeah,

[00:57:50] Carl Lanore: [00:57:50] I know I forwarded it to you, but I just don't know if I have it on my phone now.

[00:57:53] Coach Rob Regish: [00:57:53] I think I do happen to coach Rob.

[00:58:00] [00:58:00] Yeah, I think I have it. Okay.

[00:58:04] Carl Lanore: [00:58:04] regarding this comes from. Gabrielle regarding strong strong range rack poles top range. Obviously, I'm curious especially given. Your knowledge of back issues. Let

[00:58:22] Coach Rob Regish: [00:58:22] me turn this

[00:58:25] Carl Lanore: [00:58:25] sideways. Is there any symptoms that would make you steer someone away from this movement? I have a back issue from time to time, but it does they don't seem to aggravate get aggravated by lifting. But rather by awkward movements, I'm wondering if I had a bulged disc and didn't know it and heavy rack pulls would be a risk how would you know, they are putting themselves at risk creating [00:59:00] aggravation to the disc itself.

[00:59:01] Or the first thing you do is have an MRI of the disc.

[00:59:04] Coach Rob Regish: [00:59:04] Yeah. I mean don't don't do what I did and guess it's self-diagnose

[00:59:08] Carl Lanore: [00:59:08] not something you can guess.

[00:59:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:59:09] Right, so but it's interesting that he asked this because I just did them yesterday. And so we need to speak to the movement and what to do if your backs feeling tender what have you I have had issues in the past.

[00:59:25] It's not as serious as a bulging disc was more subluxation of the vertebrae. And so I think I can feel a little something going on my lower back. However to my great surprise when I did rack poles obviously with a lesser amount of weight than usual. But when I need rack post it made my fat my back feel fantastic.

[00:59:49] I was pain-free. I was dumbfounded. I was walking away from that workout and I said to myself how and then I thought. Oh, it's just the endorphins that must be what it is [01:00:00] and I woke up the next day. No back pain. I don't know what it is about it. I don't know if it was unique to me, but for some reason performing them actually helped when I have back pain, I will also tell you this though the movement itself top range rectal.

[01:00:18] Is extremely safe why because there's little to no trunk flexion. Think about it your lips your simply lifting the barbell off the pins the top inch of the movement you are literally standing, erect. All right and not flexing bending at the waist. They are safer than any deadlift and that goes for trap are dead last.

[01:00:45] Which is really saying something the amount of overload that you can generate is greater than virtually any other movement and believe you me you do these twice a month and you will see exactly what [01:01:00] I'm talking about. Now having said that if someone thinks they have an issue, I would go really slow start with lightweight, you know make smaller jumps as opposed to larger ones and.

[01:01:13] See how you feel How You observe not just that day. But you know the next day after that if an issue still presents itself the question becomes how do I overload those same muscle groups without stressing the back and the answer is another one I call Super. Glute ham Bridges, but from the ground, so normally you'll see people performing these the back will be to The Bachelors to the wall or what have you and of course that increases the range of motion that the barbell has to travel.

[01:01:46] However, if you lay flat on the ground and roll the barbell over your groin bring your heels up as close as you can to your glutes. And thrust that barbell as high as [01:02:00] it'll go and hold it there for a minute or two. You're going to find two things one. You can handle a prodigious amount of weight.

[01:02:09] In fact, I have found for whatever reason that you should be able to handle a similar amount of weight that you do in the top range rectal and the other thing that you will. Notice is that there is no vertical compression of the spine zero. It is an extremely safe movement and something that you can work with and increase the weight on while your back heels.

[01:02:36] Carl Lanore: [01:02:36] If you have a problem with your back go get an MRI. First of all, don't don't don't don't do anything. If you think you know, I got some going on my back go get an MRI find out if you have a disc that's that's not right find out if you have something else that can be fixed. Maybe by a chiropractor number one if it's lower back the thing that strengthens the lower back.

[01:02:59] The [01:03:00] best is planking

[01:03:03] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:03] play it right so

[01:03:04] Carl Lanore: [01:03:04] you can either do push-ups more often. Or you could just do planking more often, but you do those every single day for five times a day and your lower back pain. If you do have pain or that little wind seat thing that you feel are just something doesn't that'll probably go away and then obviously you can move into these things slowly but don't do anything without getting an MRI because.

[01:03:26] You'll go into the gym and go. Okay, I'll start out real light and you'll do something you'll be like, oh my God, I can't move. I have to lay on the floor call the ambulance. I can't get home. Please go get an MRI of your lower back and see what you're working with first before you do anything else.

[01:03:42] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:42] Yeah, that last point that you made about ab work and in particular like heavy have work. A lot of time. I can't count. The number of times people come to this other feel something in my lower back. I said go. Do, you know standing ab crunches? They come back to me. I can't believe I don't [01:04:00] have any pain.

[01:04:00] Carl Lanore: [01:04:00] Well, the other thing is get it get an inversion table. I mean get an inversion table one of the most valuable investment you can make if you're somebody who has back problems is an inversion. And slowly get into a vertical position, you know, you start out with 45 degrees and just keep increasing it week after week a little bit further and then wiggle your hips a little bit feel your relax your stomach feel your spine literally coming up.

[01:04:25] You'll hear it pop pop pop pop. Yeah and keep doing that and over the course of six or eight months get to the point where you can hang completely upside down from your ankles. Nothing will keep your back healthier than doing that nothing.

[01:04:38] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:38] I've got one downstairs. Thanks to you. I think the very first show we did he recommended inversion table.

[01:04:45] I went out and go

[01:04:46] Carl Lanore: [01:04:46] me I have I haven't been able to invert it because when I had the leg surgery, I had this stupid boot on. Yes. It's once twice in the year of 2018 the eye and I'm just now getting into like just the 45 degree [01:05:00] angle. I'm just like slowly because one of the things that you have to understand inversion tables work, that's the good thing.

[01:05:07] The bad thing is they work. So if you've spent the long time without having those vertebrae separated and they're kind of jammed in together you go too aggressive too soon and you'll be like, oh my God, I hurt my back. Yeah, you hurt your back. There's no doubt about it, but it's not the kind of hurt that you think it is.

[01:05:24] It's the spine starting to it hasn't been used to stretching in a long time. So you got to go slow with an inversion table. And if you work at it in the course of eight months a year, you will be hanging completely upside down and I use that length of time on purpose because even me I went too fast with the inversion table the other day.

[01:05:44] I was like, oh

[01:05:45] Coach Rob Regish: [01:05:45] F

[01:05:47] Carl Lanore: [01:05:47] I couldn't walk up the stairs to go to bed. That night was like, okay Carl. Take take take the advice that you would give somebody else and I just put it at 45 degrees and I lay there and I wiggle and I milked my hips. I call it. I'm [01:06:00] I thrust my hips back and forth and side to side and I can feel that lumbar spine stretching and then I'm done and I go upstairs and I'll do that for a couple months and then slowly start to invert more and more.

[01:06:10] You don't want to go too aggressive with that. But that's gold if you have lower back problem

[01:06:15] Coach Rob Regish: [01:06:15] goal. Amen. Amen.

[01:06:19] Carl Lanore: [01:06:19] We're going to take all last commercial break and then we have the blueprint tip of the day. You're listening to the blueprint Power Hour brought to you by coach Rodriguez.com. Check out the website sign up for something read something be stronger tomorrow.

[01:06:31] We'll be right back. Welcome back. So we got to put this up, David, Florida. David Lister to the show. Says he's 18 days out from an office Copic arthroscopy surgery on his right shoulder and AC joint. He's using daily Thrive fish oil curcumin gamma g h and hoarded bottles of cyntha genetics to [01:07:00] have almost no pain like after a good workout and range of motion is coming back fast.

[01:07:05] Yeah. So this is this is an example of a guy who made a plan. A sensible plan and it's going to pay off because his surgery is going to heal faster heal better and he's probably not going to lose anything, you know, a lot of people have surgeries like this. Oh look almost forgot. Dr. Seeds bpc one that works the oral work.

[01:07:27] That's the only peptide that survives the gut that's it. And that's because it's made in the gut people go. Oh well, well, you can take BP c-137 orally that's because bpc 157 that one bpc is made in our gut that's why it knows what to do when it's in our gun. But here's a guy with a plan. He's working his plan.

[01:07:48] Just make sure you increase. Your collagen protein. The best is Great Lakes. They have a collagen hydrolysate Take 2 tablespoons twice a [01:08:00] day that will also improve soft tissue healing and give the GH stuff and all that other good stuff something to build building blocks, but he's got a plan. He's got to come back a hundred percent.

[01:08:10] Why?

[01:08:11] Coach Rob Regish: [01:08:11] Yeah, I mean I've often thought other than workouts for Cynthia Jim recovery from surgery. Everyone knows how well it works after a workout. I can just imagine how it would benefit those patients

[01:08:23] Carl Lanore: [01:08:23] when I had my foots bite my first and second foot surgery. The only reason why my foot is functional because I was told to surgeries chances are your foots not going to work.

[01:08:34] I was told by the last doctor you'll never run again, and I'm going to run again. I'm actually getting close to it now. I was injecting bpc 157 thymosin beta for growth hormone directly into my foot into the I had him leave a a little area at the top of the foot with a bandage where I can open it up and I would stick it right in the in the InStep and inject that and it hurt it hurt like a son of a b, but it [01:09:00] was like II needed to give myself every opportunity to come back stronger not make this be my final, you know

[01:09:07] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:07] story.

[01:09:08] Yeah, and I predict he will Amaze his doctors with his recovery.

[01:09:12] Carl Lanore: [01:09:12] Oh, yeah, look at us Dave Hart and it says bpc 157 V fixing my torn rotator after two months of suffering. I ordered it from peptide Sciences two weeks later. I'm 70% but it's like magic. Look my son. Chase is an avid climber, you know, he's like when he's rock climbers and he goes to Northern California and climbs and he told me dad.

[01:09:34] I have tendonitis for two years. And I sent them a bottle of BBC One Thing seven a bunch of syringes and some diluent and literally in two weeks is his his his his tendonitis that he lived with for two years was gone people can't believe it and when you try to tell somebody like I have friends that like, oh I got you know BBC One on I'm not gonna do that, huh?

[01:09:58] Okay go on with your [01:10:00] bad self.

[01:10:02] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:02] Unfortunately, it will probably be like CBD is today the FDA is going after if they want to control it.

[01:10:08] Carl Lanore: [01:10:08] Well, it's by prescription. So, you know, we're all getting it by prescription

[01:10:11] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:11] Rob. Yeah, that's true. They accrue.

[01:10:14] Carl Lanore: [01:10:14] So what is the blueprint tip of the day right

[01:10:18] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:18] this ship of the day is my thoughts on dog's death and training as therapy for a broken heart.

[01:10:27] So one of my son's dogs died recently and it absolutely crushed them. I'm going to crush me. Just imagine what it's like for him it is this would be his first experience really with loss. He's 13 years old so he knows what's happening. And so it'll be the first time you felt the pain of losing someone or.

[01:10:52] Friend right repent that he loved he he was really he just completely [01:11:00] broke down and he went through all the typical emotions right denial anger grief. I forget what they all are but but then you know the question started, you know, why did he have to die? Where is he now wears happen. Am I ever going to see him again?

[01:11:19] You know I asked I remember asking those questions when I was little after someone died. I'll never forget this and it quickly became obvious based on the answers that I was getting that the adults. Phil I ask these questions of and that I looked up to and depended on they didn't have all the answers they didn't have all this stuff figured out and believe it or not that scared me almost as much as death itself because it was the first time that I realized, you know, they don't have all the answers and therefore, you know, can they still help me [01:12:00] everyone of course Grieves differently.

[01:12:02] The way I dealt with it when I was young. Was not the healthiest and I'm much better today, but it's still not good. What was specifically what I did was. I beat myself up for months or even years in some cases and. Just felt awful about it think because a lot of it because of the finality of it all I was worried that he would do the same.

[01:12:32] Right? So I kind of stayed close to him and and at first I just tried talking to him he seemed though to be dealing with it by not talking about it and focusing on of the things right things things that he likes right like his phone games things that made him happy and. And at his age and I'm never forget this at his age 13 if I did that [01:13:00] or I saw someone doing that.

[01:13:02] I took that to be incredibly disrespectful to the person that I just died. You know someone and this is my thinking someone Close to You dies and you're so fast to put him out of your mind right carrying on and laughing like they never existed, you know, but again, that's how I used to deal with it.

[01:13:23] Not everyone sees it that way. He was still pretty shaken up last Thursday. So I gave him the option of not training we train on Thursdays and Sundays and Zach's just said, hey just come to the gym and help me test Time by rest intervals. So he took that option and he sat that one out and by the looks of him.

[01:13:48] He was still pretty shaken up when Sunday rolled around which was our next schedule worked out. He again asked if he could sit it out and I thought about that for a little bit. [01:14:00] And then I said now I said you need to get back on the horse and ride, you know, or at least try to. Long story short, you know kiddo before we even got started he put a 20-pound weight vest on and he just started walking around with Jim kind of like aimlessly his workout hadn't even started yet.

[01:14:22] So I didn't say anything the next thing I know. All right. Next thing. I saw it shocked the hell out of me. He did two solid chin-ups with a 20-pound weight vest and and then you know the biggest smile that you're seeing came across his face. And from there. He actually he even did an uneven chin up right same way.

[01:14:44] You saw on Rocky the original rocket Rocky movie. Now this from a kid who could not perform even a quarter. Shut up. Less than a year ago. He was over the moon [01:15:00] and dad was too right because I just love seeing them get stronger and make progress and that was a very important moment because. You know a greater fear in me was kind of lurking when he initially got upset.

[01:15:18] So so look, it's no secret on this program. I have not kept my family's history, you know with depression from anyone and I do that in the hope that it helps other people. But of course along with that comes the horrible consequences of it if you don't get her under control, And I've lost more than one.

[01:15:44] Family member to Suicide so you can just imagine how worried I was right about necklace again. We all have different ways of dealing with death. And I personally I beat [01:16:00] myself up for a long time months or even years. He's trying to distract himself some people. Turn to alcohol and drugs right thumb run to the doctor to get the legal drugs, but everyone everywhere experiences death sooner or later.

[01:16:16] It's just right. It's just a matter of time and how you deal with it. What I'm getting at is this. The next time grief extreme grief sets in in your life and you have to deal with it, please. Don't forget exercise. To begin the healing because I honestly think that was his moment where he started healing again.

[01:16:41] It was the first time I saw him smile the first time I saw him happy after being way down. You don't for several days in my opinion exercise is the best antidepressant that there is so the next time death gets you down. You know, please [01:17:00] do consider training as a form of therapy. It is really helping my son.

[01:17:06] I know it certainly can be saying, you know during the my worst times and I hope it can do the same for you. So.

[01:17:14] Carl Lanore: [01:17:14] Way back way back in like 2006 and 2007 one of my earliest shows. I did showed that exercise was more effective than Zoloft and mitigating major depressive disorder.

[01:17:28] Coach Rob Regish: [01:17:28] Think about it doesn't surprise me and it doesn't come along with the suicide risk.

[01:17:35] Rye

[01:17:35] Carl Lanore: [01:17:35] or anything else. I mean people who go on ssris their lives are screwed. They don't feel anything anymore. And

[01:17:43] Coach Rob Regish: [01:17:43] and you know, right so you sit back and ask yourself. Is that really a way to go through life know now right and now I have at the time of extreme depression. Somebody might say, well it's better than feeling like your 10,000 feet underwater and and I can [01:18:00] see that I get them.

[01:18:01] I understand that but at some point, you know, you have to ask yourself if I go through the rest of my life without feeling anything. Is life going to be worth living. I mean, I've seen people get that low after they get on anti think it stops them from hurting momentarily and my point is and then it deeper hurt settles in I can't imagine having less hope than getting up every day thinking.

[01:18:35] I'm not going to experience, you know, joy and like an experience happiness and I'll give you a great example. They put me out of my demands Olaf. I don't know and I remember this. Because the gym was keeping me sane. I remember going to the gym. I remember hitting PRS and I remember walking out of the gym, like nothing happened

[01:18:56] Carl Lanore: [01:18:56] like it wasn't even enjoyable.

[01:18:58] Coach Rob Regish: [01:18:58] Like it wasn't even a joyful like [01:19:00] like the 35 years that I put into it to get to this point meant nothing and and God that's that's terrible

[01:19:09] Carl Lanore: [01:19:09] thing. You know, you know, what's really funny I find this so. I feel like I'm watching a movie sometimes. When it comes to this topic. We have people killing people and the guns aren't the problem.

[01:19:25] I mean, I can give you statistics. I'm an NRA member. I hunt I own guns and that's not the problem. But I'll tell you what I think is the problem. Every single person who has been involved in a mass shooting. All the way back to the guy in the Texas book. store Tower. Have been on antipsychotic drugs of some sort some kind of mind-altering drug.

[01:19:56] And you know, I find it. I find it [01:20:00] perplexing that the pharmaceutical industry has done something to sidestepped. Even the question of it. Let's say let's say I'm wrong maybe maybe eighty percent of them have been on. On mind-altering drugs and the other 30% warrant, right but it's not even it's not even in the discussion.

[01:20:26] The discussion is exclusively AR-15s and and and AK-47s. It's exclusively the guns fault the gun meanwhile. People more people die every year from stabbings then from AR-15s and MK and AK-47s combined. No one's going after the knives, but that's because I'm starting to think that the pharmaceutical industry is actually behind this fervor to make the gun the problem because they don't [01:21:00] want anybody step back and go.

[01:21:02] Oh, he was on an antidepressant. Oh, he was on an antidepressant that kid in Parkland. He was on antidepressants the guy in the in the book Tower in Texas. He was on a anti-psychotic drug. Wait a minute. The problem is the drugs.

[01:21:21] Coach Rob Regish: [01:21:21] Yeah, and it starts with the naming. Okay, you said it these are mind-altering drugs.

[01:21:28] Carl Lanore: [01:21:28] I mean think about it if you're a guy nothing makes you happy anymore your life is this doldrum you wake up in the morning you go to sleep you question your own existence. Why why should I even exist then people start to annoy you you think man people annoy the crap out of me. I really hate people.

[01:21:45] You know, what? I'm gonna kill myself before I kill myself. I'm gonna kill some of these annoying people and take them with me.

[01:21:53] Coach Rob Regish: [01:21:53] Yeah, you know you bring that up and more than one of those Mass Shooters and made the comment or something [01:22:00] similar to the effect of this. I felt like a nobody I wanted to be a somebody.

[01:22:06] Yeah. And how do you become a somebody in their mind, you know, you kill as many people as you can before putting one in your head and you're going to go down in history as the greatest mass murderer, you know of whatever school shootings in the United States

[01:22:24] Carl Lanore: [01:22:24] e and and the pharmaceutical industry has a very very strategic.

[01:22:31] Obstacle protecting them. It's called hip. Yeah

[01:22:34] Coach Rob Regish: [01:22:34] cancel, but

[01:22:35] Carl Lanore: [01:22:35] but but see well, no, not that they can't sue them but we they won't divulge the health records of another person. But I really think that the government that always wants it run our lives should go well and these 16 cases. We want to know where these people on antidepressants.

[01:22:54] Coach Rob Regish: [01:22:54] And you know what they have an obligation to do that because I'll compare it to an airplane crash [01:23:00] when an airplane crashes the national Transportation safety board investigators. It may take six months. It may take a Year and may take a year and a half. But ultimately they get down to what causes it and more importantly, how can we prevent this

[01:23:18] Carl Lanore: [01:23:18] and you know, you know is that the NTSB finds out if that pilot was on ODed.

[01:23:25] Oh, they just prescribe them new antidepressant meds, huh?

[01:23:28] Coach Rob Regish: [01:23:28] Yeah,

[01:23:29] Carl Lanore: [01:23:29] you don't think Hip is. Oh, no, we can't talk about that bullsh. Tell her right now. We need to know that now

[01:23:35] Coach Rob Regish: [01:23:35] they'll chalk that up to Pilot error.

[01:23:39] Carl Lanore: [01:23:39] No, no, no make don't make no mistake folks. This show isn't about this but make no mistake.

[01:23:47] It's just a matter of time before the truth comes out that all these people trying to kill Mass pit mass the mass murderers. They're all on antipsychotic drugs. They all on ssris. They're all on some sort of mind-altering drugs being [01:24:00] prescribed by their doctors. I mean hell Robin Williams. Was told he had Parkinson's disease?

[01:24:09] Robin Williams became depressed. That's a good read. I be depressed to if I found that I had Parkinson's disease, right? Right. So what did they do? They put them on antidepressants and he hangs himself,

[01:24:20] Coach Rob Regish: [01:24:20] right? Right.

[01:24:22] Carl Lanore: [01:24:22] I mean, come on. Give me a break. The guy was depressed because he had Parkinson's disease.

[01:24:28] So let's put him on a drug. That takes the Press people and gives them a tendency to commit suicide and then no one questioned the fact nobody ever came out and said whoa. Why did he commit suicide? Oh, well, he was depressed because you had Parkinson's. Yeah, but didn't you guys don't forget wait a minute.

[01:24:44] You're a wrestling Enthusiast. Okay. There was a wrestler in Florida that killed his children killed his wife and then killed himself.

[01:24:54] Coach Rob Regish: [01:24:54] 11

[01:24:55] Carl Lanore: [01:24:55] yeah, and he had had so many TB is that he was on all these different [01:25:00] mind-altering drugs. He was on ssris. He was on a schizophrenia drug use on all these drugs.

[01:25:06] But what did they do Min on he had the testosterone level 10 times higher than the average man? All right. Well, I had nothing to do with all the mind-altering drugs that was taken by right. I'm telling you we are being we are being Hoodwinked. We are being sold a bill of goods

[01:25:26] Coach Rob Regish: [01:25:26] by the

[01:25:26] Carl Lanore: [01:25:26] pharmaceutical industry and this complicit government that is covering up the fact that all these crazy people that want to kill all these other people.

[01:25:36] They're all on antidepressants and we can hear you want to know what I say. Okay, I'm in and I remember I'm all about the Second Amendment, but I think that if you're on an antidepressant, you got to turn your guns in for a while.

[01:25:48] Coach Rob Regish: [01:25:48] I'm good with

[01:25:49] Carl Lanore: [01:25:49] that. Look at that goes for me too, because I'll never be on an antidepressant but I think that's okay.

[01:25:55] Look, you know. Yeah you own guns antidepressant. Yeah, we're going to have to have you [01:26:00] Surrender Your Guns to a family member or to local authorities. You can't have your guns until you're off your ssris. Okay, that's cool.

[01:26:08] Coach Rob Regish: [01:26:08] Yeah, I mean that that's logical that makes sense. But here's your you brought up a great point though and hat as someone who went through this.

[01:26:18] I'm going to throw up the caution danger flag. There might be an SSRI that works for you, but. Your doctor in the course of practicing medicine is going to run you through the gamut of half a dozen a dozen. However, many it it takes right in the course of doing so there's a really good chance that you're going to be prescribed something that makes you suicidal and that in that exact thing happened to me.

[01:26:51] I was I never been suicidal in my life and I forget which one it was. It affects or whatever the heck [01:27:00] that is.

[01:27:00] Carl Lanore: [01:27:00] Yeah thousand SSRI. Yeah.

[01:27:04] Coach Rob Regish: [01:27:04] For the two weeks that I was on that. Honest to God, I was suicidal. I woke up. I first woke up every day thinking you know what today wouldn't be a bad day to die matter of fact it be a relief.

[01:27:17] And when I finally, you know started to talk to people they're like, you know that in and of itself is a suicidal thought. Suicide doesn't suicidal thought doesn't need to be I'm gonna you know, cut my slit my wrists or shoot put a bullet in my head. It can simply be you know, what man today be a great day to die in an auto accident.

[01:27:41] It's just it's in

[01:27:42] Carl Lanore: [01:27:42] subtle and it's a subtle shift in in your mindset a very very subtle shift in your mindset

[01:27:48] Coach Rob Regish: [01:27:48] and you don't realize how bad it is. Until you come off and you're you're like this outside Observer looking back and thinking [01:28:00] my god, did that make me sick. I mean really,

[01:28:04] Carl Lanore: [01:28:04] I know people that have been on ssris their entire life.

[01:28:08] Coach Rob Regish: [01:28:08] Wow,

[01:28:09] Carl Lanore: [01:28:09] I mean, I can't even imagine it I can't imagine it life. I can't imagine that life has a whole lot of meaning for them. I think that it just I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong some people do well with it. I'm sure there's some people that it will say Carl my life was horrible until ssris. Okay, you're one of the people that worked for but you should but you shouldn't own a gun.

[01:28:30] That's all. Yeah, and I'm and I'm. I'm a gun. I mean, I'm carrying right now. I got guns. I love guns. I've been hunting and shooting guns since I was in my teens, I'm a big-time second amendment rights. I don't think that anybody needs to have their guns taken away. We have more than enough laws out there if we just started to apply them to change things, but let's stop ignoring the the 6 million pound gorilla in the room that all these people do a mass mass murders.

[01:28:58] Yeah. They're all messed up in the head [01:29:00] and they're on some sort of drug.

[01:29:01] Coach Rob Regish: [01:29:01] Yeah, the only gun I've owned is the squirt gun, but I'm a hundred percent on board your position that helmet is just that the common denominator here is people an antidepressant drugs not the fact that they have got

[01:29:15] Carl Lanore: [01:29:15] so there was a guy two years ago going on local radio going on AM radio stations all over the country and he had done the research.

[01:29:25] and he was going on and saying that the reason I know that the guy. From the Texas book Tower was on an anti-psychotic drug was because this guy I heard yep and he had done all the research and he wants to know why the government and the big Pharma wasn't looking into the relationship between mass shootings and ssris and and he was on Terry minor show on 840 WHAS here in town and I emailed Terry.

[01:29:52] I know him and I said, can you put me in touch with this guy and he put me in touch with the guy and. I had one conversation with the guy call them up. I said [01:30:00] would you come on my show? I know this isn't like the typical wheelhouse but you know mental health is a big thing and also the stuff he said absolutely and then I kind of forgot about it.

[01:30:13] I sent them a couple emails. They didn't bounce back. I never got a reply. I called the cell phone number I had form it had it was disconnected it rang rang rang and then it just you know, nobody ever answered. No, that was it. And I thought to myself. I wonder what happened with that guy. And I haven't thought about it from that point till now you would think that this guy would be out there and talking this.

[01:30:37] I don't know what happened to him why he silenced himself why he got silence? I don't know what happened, but he was going on AM radio stations all over the country saying it's time to look at ssris and mass shootings.

[01:30:49] Coach Rob Regish: [01:30:49] I have no doubt that he was silenced by other people.

[01:30:54] Carl Lanore: [01:30:54] I'm sure that the pharmaceutical industry said look we're gonna sue you into the ground.

[01:30:59] Your kit [01:31:00] your children won't see sunlight welcome

[01:31:03] Coach Rob Regish: [01:31:03] and they have unlimited resources and he does and he doesn't yeah, so

[01:31:08] Carl Lanore: [01:31:08] I will up that's the that's an interesting discussion.

[01:31:13] Coach Rob Regish: [01:31:13] Hi Rachel. I

[01:31:15] Carl Lanore: [01:31:15] found I feel pretty terrible, but I'm going to go home early and have some chicken soup.

[01:31:20] Coach Rob Regish: [01:31:20] Yeah get a good night's sleep to okay

[01:31:21] Carl Lanore: [01:31:21] 11 hours.

[01:31:22] I'm going to sleep 11 hours. I'm going to sleep at six o'clock.

[01:31:25] Coach Rob Regish: [01:31:25] Awesome.

[01:31:26] Carl Lanore: [01:31:26] I want to get back into the gym. That's what I miss right now. All right. Thanks for a great show. Rob will see everybody tomorrow with more superhuman radio. Thank you for listening

[01:31:36] Coach Rob Regish: [01:31:36] today. [01:32:00]