[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to super human radio. Today is October 29 2019 for those of you listening to this show a hundred years from now and realizing that we will way ahead of the curve and we are. Today is a Tuesday. So we have the, uh, blueprint power hour with my co host, coach Rob record starting in just a second.

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[00:00:42] Check it out, and without further delay, let's get Rob's music. Queued up here calling all blueprint army, fall in line. It's time for the blueprint power hour with coach Rodriguez on the super

[00:00:57] Coach Rob Regish: [00:00:57] human radio network.

[00:01:01] [00:01:00] Carl Lanore: [00:01:01] Hey Rob, how you doing?

[00:01:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:03] Well, I am decidedly under the weather. However, uh, I'm making up a fast rebound, so I'm here.

[00:01:10] That's all. That's all I can say.

[00:01:11] Carl Lanore: [00:01:11] Everybody is. Everybody I know is, you know, I don't understand it. Sometimes I wonder if, like in my case, I caught a virus on this cruise ship and listen, those of you who are contemplating going on a cruise, let me help you now. I'll save you tens of thousands of dollars over your lifetime.

[00:01:28] Uh, every time you get the urge to go on a cruise, go to a local hospital and lick the floor, go home, be sick for a Wicker week or two, and uh, you can feel like you were on a cruise, but you didn't have to spend thousands of dollars to actually do it.

[00:01:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:44] I would second pervert. I would second that recommended.

[00:01:47] Carl Lanore: [00:01:47] Who's is it for people who are fat and lazy and gluttonous, and I mean, you want to start drinking at 9:00 AM in the morning and eat every two hours. I gotta tell you, I think the hardest working part of a [00:02:00] cruise has to be the toilets in the rooms. I'm telling you, these people are big and fat and they eat constantly and they must crap four or five times a day.

[00:02:11] Half to

[00:02:12] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:12] half. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree.

[00:02:17] Carl Lanore: [00:02:17] So now coach, I'm taking off. I've been off for a week since I've been home from the cruise because I'm sick. Will you take off? Do you take off when you're sick?

[00:02:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:27] Well, I will now, let me just say whatever hit me yesterday, snuck up on me and hit me hard and fast.

[00:02:34] As a matter of fact. The only little bit of a warning I got was I noticed that I was sweating a lot more on warmups. You know, I did my trap bar, dead lifts, I got those done, but then I was hit. With a sudden wave of, of I would say like a cold sweat, and I just became progressively weaker.

[00:02:52] Fortunately, I was smart enough to cut it short, came back here, laid down in bed, and honest to God, that was 15 [00:03:00] hours ago and I only got up about an hour ago. So, um, I do have my appetite back. I will say yesterday all I had. There was a banner day for fat loss. I had two to thrive shakes and heavy cream in three hard boiled eggs.

[00:03:15] That was all I could get in me, and that works cover, keep

[00:03:18] Carl Lanore: [00:03:18] it. I lost way too. I li I got leaner as a result of being sick. My appetite has come back the past few days.

[00:03:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:27] Sure. I'm

[00:03:28] Carl Lanore: [00:03:28] definitely eating, but I'm trying to, I mean like today for breakfast, I had a half pound of liverwurst

[00:03:33] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:33] and water and that was it.

[00:03:35] Oh, Phil is a year of health and sickness or make you appreciate it.

[00:03:40] Carl Lanore: [00:03:40] Mike Grady says, Hey, Rob, long time. No talk. Anyway, since we last spoke, I'm down to 213 pounds from two 80 that's great, and I'm really happy with my progress. I lost a hell of a lot of strength though, until I hit two 20 it was at that point that I added Cynthia and bam, [00:04:00] my strength losses halted.

[00:04:02] Even better. I've started gaining some of the strength back and even as I dropped another seven pounds, my problem is this. I ran out of Cynthia gin and it's out of stock. It was even I w I was even ready to import it from predator nutrition, which is in the U K but they're out of stock too. How much longer is this gonna last.

[00:04:28] Yeah.

[00:04:28] Coach Rob Regish: [00:04:28] Um, well, look, here's a situation. I know it is frustrating to people, me included, because I'm one rhabdo episode away probably from my last, and I'm looking at my last model or Austin dwindle away. Um, okay, here it is. Long story short word from the lab is that it's going to be another four to six weeks.

[00:04:53] And labs are notorious. For bad E T A's. I would tell you realistically, I would [00:05:00] put it being, you know, back in stock around the end of the year. Um, now I'm gonna make some suggestions to get you through, uh, and they're good suggestions, but I want to tell you how we got here so that you can understand how and why these sellouts occur.

[00:05:18] Mass truly does everything. That they can to accurately forecast inventory, and they've been doing it for 25 years. This product though, is exceptionally difficult to keep in stock for a few reasons, and they're up against several things that are out of their control. Things like, um. peak strength response.

[00:05:40] Your condo is only harvested once a year, and that's in August. If you harvest it at any other time, the amount of the actors in the plant is something less than optimal. So that's when the major production run of it is taken in from the fields after harvest. [00:06:00] An enormous amount of raw or is imported here to the U S where it takes time to make its way through customs.

[00:06:08] And anybody that's ever had something stuck in customs knows it can be anywhere from a couple of weeks to a couple months, which in a worst case scenario would bring us to late October. The lab now needs to turn those many. Metric, tons of come into of raw herbs into an extract, which can take another four to six weeks depending, um, on what, how many machines are available, et cetera, et cetera.

[00:06:39] Those extract batches are then sent out for third party lab analysis in certification. Assuming those pass, it takes an additional two to three weeks. Okay. Uh, if a batch fails to live up to the 95% standard, most are 98. Um, 95 is the least that he will accept. [00:07:00] But if it, if it fails, which is, it happens, but it isn't often, the process basically has to start all over again.

[00:07:08] Okay. Once that third party lab analysis is done and certified, each batch of Cynthia is stamped with an individual lot number. So those of you holding bottles right now, if you turn it upside down, you'll see it. And so the lot number appears on the bottom of every bottle along the way. Guys, stuff happens like.

[00:07:31] Uh, a year or two ago, the lab didn't have our trademark black and white capsules that it's always coming in. We were already four to six weeks behind. People were screaming for it. John says, what do you want to do? I said. Run it with all white caps, which is the only other cap that they have available.

[00:07:50] I don't want to even get into the the fiasco and the firestorm that that cost. I mean, people literally were thinking they were getting counterfeits, Cynthia gym, [00:08:00] bootleg synthesis, and it was ugly. We're never going to do that again. I'd rather wait at the end of the day. Right. It's usually not until late December, January the following year that Cynthia Jenn is back in stock.

[00:08:12] Finally. And this is probably the big one that's wiped us out the last couple times. We have no way of forecasting people who buy a lot of it and what typically we can if we know that their right recurring customers. The problem is we had a customer just recently, he plays semi professional baseball.

[00:08:34] He's a pitcher and you ordered bottles. He found out real fast, he can throw on a day's last arrest every week. Uh, and he came back in New York caseload, not one case load, multiple case loads of it. So when case loads are flying up the door, it makes it really, really difficult. Like to keep it in stock and to stay on top of things.

[00:09:00] [00:08:59] There's also the issue of waiting on nature, et cetera, et cetera. For a lot of now, masses, mass does everything they can to say, Hey guys, we're getting low on stock. You know, we got this issue. We got it. It's getting short. For a lot of companies, that's BS. All that is marketing. It's legit when mass does it because they did it just before this last sell out and they only do it when it's the truth.

[00:09:27] That's the way you have to roll with. Legitimate products. Trust me, I would love to be thinking about this. I would love to be selling tons of it in month in and month out without any pause, right. All year long. But the reality is that's not always how it works, at least not with a legitimate products that are done right.

[00:09:47] And they deliver real results for you, customers and me. By the way, I'm the customer. So as I get more information, I will pass it along here. I appreciate everyone's patience. I really do. And [00:10:00] rest assured we are doing everything we can on our end. At the end of the day, guys, it's a lot like a fine wine, right?

[00:10:07] It does take some time. Just know that we are doing everything we can to fast track

[00:10:13] Carl Lanore: [00:10:13] it. Hey, coach. Um, the document, I have only had the first question and it from migrating.

[00:10:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:10:20] Oh God, I'll have to send you, I'm sorry. I guess they sent you the

[00:10:23] Carl Lanore: [00:10:23] wrong, I'm thinking we'd just go ahead and run the commercial early and you could resend me the right one during the commercial break and then we'll come back and we'll, yeah, because I otherwise.

[00:10:32] Otherwise, I could just go home and you can read the questions and then answer them as

[00:10:36] Coach Rob Regish: [00:10:36] well. I don't think they like it

[00:10:39] Carl Lanore: [00:10:39] that much, and yeah, we have a good discussion at the end of today's show too, so stick around. We'll be right back with more of the blueprint. Hello. Welcome back to the blueprint power for now.

[00:10:50] I have all my questions. I can fulfill my duty as the host of the show. The next one comes from Enzio Panetta. Because I'm a big fan of the [00:11:00] blueprint power hour and I seldom miss a show. What I want to know about is keeping inflammation down. My family has a history of inflammatory disease, so this one is really important to me.

[00:11:10] What can I do to prevent this from happening?

[00:11:13] Coach Rob Regish: [00:11:13] You know, um, he is absolutely right about keeping inflammation in check. Right? That's important, I think for all of us. Now it's also important though to point out that that some inflammation is natural and healthy

[00:11:27] Carl Lanore: [00:11:27] and neither are necessary and

[00:11:29] Coach Rob Regish: [00:11:29] needed.

[00:11:30] Uh, and, and if it can be controlled like a, with, um, arachidonic acid, it could be beneficial for some individual

[00:11:40] Carl Lanore: [00:11:40] Dominic acid increases. Inflammation.

[00:11:42] Coach Rob Regish: [00:11:42] Right. Right. And, but that was my point about sometimes it's natural and healthy and can be used to your advantage. Um, but all too often, uh, too much inflammation is not.

[00:11:55] And I, I do think as strength athletes, we tend to forget that we [00:12:00] live, you know, a pretty pro inflammatory type lifestyle. I mean, if you think about it, and that's important to acknowledge because inflammation. And this is a big statement, but it's the truth. Inflammation is either the underlying cause or exacerbate almost every medical condition you can think of, right?

[00:12:21] Heart disease, high blood pressure, metabolic syndrome, right syndrome, X, arthritis, tendonitis, bursitis, all of the itises, you know, any of them. The question becomes then how do you keep it in check? And so I sat down my fought long and hard about this, and there are a ton of nutrients that I'm going to get to them that I can give you.

[00:12:47] But first I want to talk about training because I think what we do with strength athletes really is unique versus any other sport. And if you think about it in what other sport are you [00:13:00] intentionally. Doing damage to the inside of your body, it just doesn't happen. So, so let's talk about training first.

[00:13:10] The Bulgarians in fact consider training a form of irritation to the body. And I mean, you know, if you think about it logically, if you're working out with weights or resistance training or you know, some form of resistance training. You are breaking down muscle, you are stressing tendons and ligaments and versa, and facia and all of those underlying tissues.

[00:13:36] Do you think your insides are going to be a little inflamed? You know, of course they will. So I would tell you the first and most important thing would be to do is stop overstressing your system by learning to balance rest. Um, with training would be number one. The problem is we don't see the cuts on the inside of our body.

[00:14:00] [00:14:00] You know, we don't see the damage. Like you can see under an electron microscope cause you do muscle biopsies. Uh, you feel a little bit of it, you know, with your residual delayed onset muscle soreness times. But you really don't see it. I, I tend to think of, we saw it, we'd take it a little more seriously.

[00:14:20] Um, so. Having as many rest days as training days, I think would be number one. And sure. You know, you can argue, cause I cited the Bulgarians. You can argue that in some cases they train multiple times per day, you know, uh, six days a week. But on the other hand, if you are a real student of Leo Costa's manuals and his works and Bulgarian bursts training and big beyond belief, you also knew.

[00:14:50] That they always practiced recovery techniques subsequent to, and in some cases even prior to those training sessions.

[00:14:59] Carl Lanore: [00:14:59] Well, and [00:15:00] also they rested more than they trained. So when they would go into the gym for those multiple times a day, they didn't spend an hour and a half in the gym trashing themselves.

[00:15:10] They went in, they did a warmup set, they did a max PR set. Then they went back to their room and they laid down and they arrested. I

[00:15:19] Coach Rob Regish: [00:15:19] was to 30 yeah, I was absolutely going to say, when you look at it on a, on a, on a daily or weekly basis, you can see, yeah, they were training frequently, but if you look at it at an hour to hour basis, to your point though, we're arresting a lot

[00:15:34] Carl Lanore: [00:15:34] longer.

[00:15:34] Absolutely. And eating like animals,

[00:15:37] Coach Rob Regish: [00:15:37] you like animals. So, and some of those suggestions like massage. Okay. That might not be practical. Taking naps, that might not be practical, but. You know, presumably everyone in the audience showers, and as, as long as you're in there, you might as well try it.

[00:15:54] Hot and cold contrast showers are a way of incorporating recovery [00:16:00] techniques into what you're doing. And they're surprisingly effective. You know, you, you don't need to be using them for more than a week or so to see the benefits that they have. So I would tell you to do that. And. That wouldn't be the only thing.

[00:16:13] I leave those books still available.

[00:16:16] Carl Lanore: [00:16:16] Yes, they are. He's got a couple of, he's got that burst trading book and then he's got the, a big beyond belief and then he's got one other, I believe that he wrote later on.

[00:16:25] Coach Rob Regish: [00:16:25] Yup. And you know what? I would buy all of them. I would buy all of them. It's a true, I'll never forget the education I got reading those books.

[00:16:34] But anyway, it'll speak to, you know, balancing training with rest and recovery. Second on my list, of course, would be, um, anti-inflammatory nutraceuticals and the list is a long one. Um, probably

[00:16:50] Carl Lanore: [00:16:50] I know two of them that are on there

[00:16:53] Coach Rob Regish: [00:16:53] in terms of of your favorites. Well in terms of cost effectiveness, baby aspirin, [00:17:00] or even better Sal acidic acid, uh, which is where baby Epson was derived from is way up on the list.

[00:17:07] I can recall vividly reading dr Hatfield's a book strength, the scientific approach where he made the statement, and it's true. If aspirin was discovered a hundred years ago. And all that. It did. You know, it'd be a prescription drug. Fortunately it's not. So

[00:17:25] Carl Lanore: [00:17:25] I've even read that you couldn't get it approved today because of its side effects.

[00:17:29] Coach Rob Regish: [00:17:29] Probably. Yeah. Probably. Um, so that would be high on my list. So would, of course, fish or fish oil. Um. Uh, to your credit, Carl, it's terms in so far as dosing goes, I would be using higher doses every second or third day. You know, most people take one to three grams of fish oil of the day.

[00:17:52] Most people also don't get much out official. There's a reason for that. I don't think they're using enough of it.

[00:17:58] Carl Lanore: [00:17:58] Yeah. And, and, and, and also [00:18:00] eat fish. It's the best way to get your fish wild. You'll never ever get fish burps from fish, from fish or eating fish, but you will get them from fish oil.

[00:18:07] Coach Rob Regish: [00:18:07] Think about that again, you've got a lot of top shelf protein and creating too. Um, so fish oil would definitely be there. Uh, when I talk about higher dosing, every second or third day, I'm talking six to 10 grams. That's what I consider high dosing. You can, uh, do that with less krill oil, uh, or do the, do the same with much smaller capsules, which are important to some people.

[00:18:34] You know, those tiny red capsules. Especially for women, you know, capsule size is a big deal, and the smaller the better. Um, curcumin of course, I think would be the number one in terms of herbs on that list between one and two grams a day. For most formulas. I have seen formulas with enhanced absorption, uh, down to about the 400 milligram a [00:19:00] day Mark showing acceptable blood levels of it.

[00:19:04] Um. But otherwise, one to two grams and make sure you're getting it either with a uh, sub Vince's trademark material is, I forget the name of it. C3

[00:19:19] Carl Lanore: [00:19:19] I'll walk up the, my purine or the, or

[00:19:22] Coach Rob Regish: [00:19:22] the bioprinting is at CC three

[00:19:24] Carl Lanore: [00:19:24] is there. That's their standardize a curcumin.

[00:19:29] Coach Rob Regish: [00:19:29] Yup. And to be fair, it's the one youth and work through the studies Seixas quadrangular terrace is yet another.

[00:19:36] You've heard me talk about that a lot. It takes about a week or two to kick in and it has a surprisingly effective success rate for many. I would say that over the years, nine out of 10 people that I've recommended that to, they've come back and said, yo, yeah. You know what? That's that does, that works.

[00:19:53] And it works. Well, the sleeper in here though. There's some, and it's something you just don't hear enough though [00:20:00] as well. Has Serrata AKA boswellic acids is a very overlooked anti-inflammatory herbs. And, and here's the weird part. I dunno why it's so overlooked because it brings with it almost immediate relief.

[00:20:16] Uh, if I were to, let me put it this way, if I were to do a glucose to mean conjoint and type product, buss Wailea would be first on that ingredient list. Now. We also, when it comes to anti-inflammatory stuff, uh, there's research showing Creighton. Some of the actives have not just an analgesic effect, but in anti-inflammatory.

[00:20:40] If I, uh, it is not as addictive as heroin. It is not an opioid, and it is not any of the other nonsense that you're hearing. Parented by the FDA and the DEA now in an attempt to get at them, and you should be aware that every [00:21:00] day they are trying to, that they just, they're going to continue to do with guys until they get it done.

[00:21:05] Unless we, and the American crepe Tom association, by far the most well-organized organization. In the business can keep it legal and they've been doing a pretty good damn good job of it. So please support their efforts. Next up on my list would be antioxidants and now oxidation, while technically it differs from inflammation, inflammation is in and of itself a major problem, and it is not just a accelerated aging problem.

[00:21:39] It's not just a cosmetic problem, although those are two. Side effects from oxidation run a muck to better understand that I, I, I always go back to the example of cholesterol, right? You've heard high cholesterol is bad. You've heard LDL cholesterol is bad. [00:22:00] The Framingham heart study left, no doubt.

[00:22:03] High cholesterol wasn't the culprit. The culprit was oxidized cholesterol. So. Well, you know, when you, when looking at antioxidants, I think it really pays to get into, well what the top shelf ones are. And those would be a revisiting. Curcumin, ECG, epi, Gallo, catechin gal aid from green tea extract short courses of Buckminster fuller rain, which to your credit, Carl, I think this show broke the news on that one.

[00:22:37] Um. And of course, you know, then there are the more common antioxidants, vitamin C and E. but when we, by the way, when we talk about E, not only are we looking for the natural D form of Toca Sephora, not the synthetic D L form, it's real easy to miss on the label, but we're talking about, um, right toe Katrina's [00:23:00] as well.

[00:23:01] I think you said them yours or

[00:23:03] there's

[00:23:03] Carl Lanore: [00:23:03] four took off Rawls and four tocotrienols, and you should take, you take a full spectrum a, but there's a lot of evidence that people take too much vitamin a. um, E is really good and in smaller quantities, very high quantities of vitamin E. in fact, Del Moosa just blogged about it recently, uh, in just 30 days.

[00:23:24] High doses of. A vitamin E, uh, compromised kidney and liver function in just 30 days in individuals. So E you should get, you could get plenty of HEA if you eat the right foods. Do you

[00:23:38] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:38] recall what, what high doses

[00:23:40] Carl Lanore: [00:23:40] were? But I think that it's pretty accepted that people who are taking. A more than 400 IUs a day are starting to go into the the hi and

[00:23:52] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:52] okay,

[00:23:52] Carl Lanore: [00:23:52] so, and this was just the de to call for all version.

[00:23:56] This wasn't the balance, tocopherols and tocotrienols. So we don't [00:24:00] know what contribution that has to the to discussion, but vitamin E has always been thought to be a very powerful and potent fatty, fat soluble vitamin a. And I don't think you need a lot of it. You know, cause you know, you know, the problem is people have their favorite antioxidant.

[00:24:19] So they take six grams of this one and three grams of that one. And, and antioxidants all have different jobs. So just like there's different drill bits to drill different holes there. All you have is a five eighth inch drill bit. Then all the holes you drill are going to be five eighths in size.

[00:24:38] And that's not gonna work for every job that you do. Right? So you, you, you, people need to start to think about antioxidants as a spectrum and getting a fair amount of all of them,

[00:24:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:24:50] you know? Yup. So, you know, you've got C, you've gotta be, you've got a picked dog and all, uh, and of course, alpha lipoic [00:25:00] acid.

[00:25:00] The best form of that would be the R isomer, not the S a, which importantly, it has been shown to reasonable recycled vitamin C. I, I can't recall if it was shown to do the same for II, but certainly foresee, um, and it is both fat and water soluble as to xanthan is a really, really sharp carotinoids that has an ever growing body of research around it.

[00:25:28] It's not gonna make you bigger or stronger. It's not gonna make you muscular, more muscular or leaner. Um, but its antioxidant activities quite a bit more potent than C E N and the like, the most important antioxidant, a film that I would be getting if I were to get one, we'd be an ACL assisting or cystine residues from high quality way.

[00:25:55] The likes of which are found in thrive, okay. Because what those do [00:26:00] is they are precursors to building your body's most prolific indogenous antioxidant. That being glued a file and so reliable is glutathione as a biomarker for aging is that's what the medical community uses. So, you know, think about that.

[00:26:19] And they shuttle assisting. In any reasonable dose is, it's just a very easy, simple way, I think, to stay on top of your body's most important antioxidant. So works to what keeps inflammation in check and honorable mention goes to DMS. So if you can hack smelling like garlic, uh, now, and were two products though on the market.

[00:26:49] That were no odor. DMS. So one of whom was years, Carl Wright was a primal D and the other one was put out by Pat Arnell. I can't for the life of [00:27:00] me remember when he had in it, but um, you know, listen, I can't find an odorless one. If anybody out there listening can, I'd really appreciate

[00:27:09] Carl Lanore: [00:27:09] what we used and probably is odorless.

[00:27:13] I'm not going to explain why that is. I'm not going to tell other people how to. To fix the problem, but it is odorless.

[00:27:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:20] And

[00:27:21] Carl Lanore: [00:27:21] even in fairly large doses, I mean, there are big, I mean, if you poured it on your skin, like out of the bottle,

[00:27:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:27] you'd see us

[00:27:30] Carl Lanore: [00:27:30] spraying five or six pumps of it on you.

[00:27:32] Doesn't make you smell like DMS out.

[00:27:35] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:35] Yeah. You know, the other night I got home from jujitsu, I got out of the shower. Right? Put it some, a DMS. Oh, roll onto it. I went to bed and I woke up with the most God awful tasting mouth. Yeah, yeah. Oh God. It was like this metallic Charlie yacht.

[00:27:54] Terrible thing.

[00:27:54] Carl Lanore: [00:27:54] And there's a reason why it smells like garlic and or some people say onions and that's because it's that and that. [00:28:00] So full of soul funeral feign family of owners that actually supposed to be good for you. A Jeff Clifton had a question. Yes. It a, can you speak to on regards to curcumin or turmeric acting as a monoline, uh, oxidase inhibitor?

[00:28:18] I may. I am a, Oh, I

[00:28:22] Coach Rob Regish: [00:28:22] I'll be honest and say I don't, I don't know a lot about that. I don't recall reading much about it. The one thing that I do recall reading was that it could tie up the cytochrome P four 50 enzyme in the liver, but that's a

[00:28:35] Carl Lanore: [00:28:35] different reason. Everything does that. Everything does that.

[00:28:38] Yeah.

[00:28:38] Coach Rob Regish: [00:28:38] Everything does. It'll make your crates on work better. I'll say that.

[00:28:43] Carl Lanore: [00:28:43] You know, so, uh, I think M a Monomy in oxidation. Hibita is w I, I'm, I'm not really clear on what they do, but I kind of feel like they have something to do with, um, mood altering

[00:29:00] [00:29:00] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:00] drugs. You often hear about them?

[00:29:03] Spoken about in what context? Antidepressants.

[00:29:05] Carl Lanore: [00:29:05] Yeah. Okay. So there you go. And so, um, I know things like, uh, what's the yellow stuff they put in the rice?

[00:29:15] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:15] Um, MSG?

[00:29:18] Carl Lanore: [00:29:18] No, no, the plant. It's very expensive. It's,

[00:29:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:23] um,

[00:29:24] Carl Lanore: [00:29:24] it'll come to me in a second. But anyway, I, there are certain natural, uh. MAOI inhibitors out there that people have to be aware of if they are on those types of drugs that either make them work harder or a blunt their effects at all.

[00:29:42] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:42] Um, you know, but really, you know, it's really weird though, for all the warnings I've heard about that I've never heard from a single person that said, Oh my God, I had this horrible adverse reaction because there was using an MAOI inhibitor and Nagel or whatever. MAOI yeah. You know, [00:30:00] and I, I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but got for all the warnings they put out, you would think you'd hear a lot more horror stories about people having issues with that.

[00:30:09] It's not like they're overrunning emergency rooms or anything.

[00:30:14] Carl Lanore: [00:30:14] So it says, obviously a MAOI inhibitors are, uh, both mean, uh, oxidase inhibitor enzyme inhibitors as well as Monomy oxidase a and mean. Uh, oxidase B, they are best known as powerful antidepressants as well as effective therapeutic agents for pain disorders and social phobia, which tells me that they have an anxie lytic effect.

[00:30:40] Um. You know, I, I have a funny feeling that saffron, Mike bear. Thank you. I couldn't think of Sam. Saffron is a known MAOI inhibitor. It also has been shown in high doses to act like an SSRI and actually alter mood. And so it's interesting that saffron [00:31:00] has that yellow color, uh, and that curcumin and tumeric have that.

[00:31:05] Yellowish orange color. Uh, I was gonna point that out because both of them seem to be Contra indicated, uh, of use. If you are on M a O inhibitors, Zoloft apparently was an MAOI inhibitor, uh, and we know that Zoloft underperformed against exercise in treating major depressive disorder. Oh, just connecting some dots there.

[00:31:33] Um. Yeah. You know, I don't know enough about these. I, the reason I don't know enough about these is because this is a class of drugs that I not only have no use for, but I'm suspect of causing lots of harm in our population. These, the, these, uh, psychotic slash mood altering drugs like SRIs and MAOI MAOS.

[00:31:53] Um, they, these drugs are horrible. I'm just waiting for someone to tie them [00:32:00] back to all the mass shootings. It's, I've said this before, and it's worth saying again, but the lack of any. Discussion about the role of antidepressants in mass shootings, to me is very suspicious. It would be, it makes itself available for discussion.

[00:32:19] Hey, we're talking about this with guns and fatherless homes, and but yet not a person is saying how many of these people want antidepressants? And then when they find out that almost all of them were, then the next logical question would be. What role are antidepressants playing in the types of behavior that lead to not only suicide, which we know of already, but mass shootings and you wait, wait, hold on one second.

[00:32:45] Hold on. And the, and the, the fact that there is not one major media outlet. Even going, you know, this is tangentially interesting in this discussion. We should probably [00:33:00] at least take a look at, it tells me that the reason that capital Hill wants to overzealously go after guns as the problem.

[00:33:11] When, when all of this statistics and all of the facts show that that's not the problem right down to the fact that only 800 people a year die from rifles like AR fifteens more than 4,000 people a year die from knife stabbing wounds more than AR. Fifteens no one wants to talk about removing your steak knife.

[00:33:34] Uh, the fact that I almost have started to think, you know, I think. The pharmaceutical industry is funding the anti gov gov anti-gun rhetoric to divert people away from the obvious question, and that is what role are these mind altering drugs playing in, in mass murders? It's a logical question.

[00:33:59] No one [00:34:00] has, no one is talking about. It's amazing to me.

[00:34:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:34:03] You made a very interesting statement last week. You said. Every instance, or almost every instance these people had been on psychiatric drugs. I went back and I look, you are absolutely 100% correct.

[00:34:16] Carl Lanore: [00:34:16] The guy, the guy in the Texas bell tower, the book tower at the Texas college where he had a high powered, uh, military rifle, basically, you know, bolt action rifle that's considered a deer rifle today.

[00:34:30] Uh, and he started just picking off people down in the campus. He had just been put on a drug for schizophrenia or a bipolar disorder. They didn't call it bipolar back then. They called it manic depression or something. He had just been put on a mine altering drug like just a week before that, and then he goes out and so it's killing people and you know, the fact that nobody's talking about this means something's there.

[00:34:56] Something's there, and I really believe that big pharma is going, [00:35:00] we can just throw more money into politicians pockets to keep them talking about guns so that nobody asks any questions about these drugs, we're going to do better off. Because I suspect that once somebody starts asking questions about these drugs and so intelligent, unbiased, well trusted group starts looking into it and going.

[00:35:21] Wow. There is a correlation. You know, 90% of the mass murders were on new drug. They would just, their drugs would just change. They put on these drugs, uh, and, and wow, we need to look at this. As soon as that happens, it's all good. It's all gonna fold for the pharmaceutical industry. It's all gonna fall.

[00:35:40] Coach Rob Regish: [00:35:40] The problem is they got HIPAA You can't go into somebody's medical records

[00:35:46] Carl Lanore: [00:35:46] you can't, but you can sometimes, right? You can sometimes what you want, you get when you get authorization, right? HIPPA requires authorization to see these documents, so, so family members could easily. Oh, that have the, the power of attorney or [00:36:00] assumed power of attorney because of their, their last kin or whatever.

[00:36:04] Uh, could say, yeah, we want to show that or those records. And now the cat's out of the bag.

[00:36:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:10] It's a great question. Can your, you know, can your medical records be accessed as part of a criminal investigation to see if you were on. Mind altering drugs because if you were than mind altering drugs.

[00:36:26] In my mind, I have a lot more to do with this than guts course a lot more, of course. And of course it's, to me that's common sense, but you're right. It's like, why is nobody talking about, what they do is it gets to the second amendment issue and then they, they have some successfully succeeded.

[00:36:48] In dividing the country. 50 50 down here, your little Democrat, Republican second amendment. Not second, but we're all at each other's throats. And meanwhile, these idiots are getting away with it.

[00:36:58] Carl Lanore: [00:36:58] They made it a sport. [00:37:00] So Mike bear says, a FYI, Walmart is now selling collagen peptides. What brand they are.

[00:37:08] Are they, um. Great lakes. I, I by great lakes, because great lakes has the single best collagen hydrolysate, which is basically collagen peptides. They have the best in the world and it's all, they also test it. They, they use non-GMO sourced, um, raw materials and they test for, for glyphosate.

[00:37:32] They don't brag about it. I know that they do. The owner has been doing this for decades before collagen protein became popular, and I talked to the director of marketing one time, really nice guy, and I said, you guys ought to promote this fact that you test for glyphosate. And he says, you know, we just don't want to bring any attention to it, but we do do it.

[00:37:51] So all of their collagen. Protein is free of glyphosate. Cause remember, glyphosate is a synthetic form of glycine. So it accumulates [00:38:00] wherever glycine should accumulate. Collagen. Protein is 40% glycine. So if you're using a collagen protein that is not organic, a from organically source material, and it does have glyphosate in there, it's going to become part of the collagen protein.

[00:38:18] Coach Rob Regish: [00:38:18] Yup. Yeah, that's good to know. That's a great tip. Thank you for passing that along.

[00:38:23] Carl Lanore: [00:38:23] Yeah. Uh, let me see where we are on time cause we took an early first break. I think we're going to continue on here. Yes, we are. We're going to continue on just a minute a little bit longer and go back to another question here.

[00:38:35] Get back on track. Uh, George Corrigan says, I have a real issue with staying awake during the day, and it's not because of lack of sleep. What are some good stimulants I can use to stay awake during work hours? I've been using a F Adrienne and caffeine and more and more of it, but it's not working anymore.

[00:38:56] Suggestions about, look, dude, don't [00:39:00] say it's not from lack of sleep, just because you're laying still for eight hours a night. With your eyes closed, you're not sleeping. The first thing you need to do is buy a sleep tracking device, like the sleep on ring, or even an aura ring. And also download an app called sleep cycle, which will record whether or not you're snoring at night.

[00:39:21] And if you know you're snoring. You don't need more caffeine, you need to correct your sleep problem because you're not sleeping just because you, you, you, you lay down at nine o'clock and get up at 6:00 AM in the morning and what happens in the middle of the night? You don't remember. Cause that's, that's BS.

[00:39:37] You're getting enough sleep. If you get enough sleep, you don't need these things.

[00:39:40] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:40] You just don't. Yeah. Let me, let me, um, let me answer it this way. George is, I can really emphasize with you. I was in the exact same situation that you were basically, it was using ephedrine, caffeine in the mornings by 12 noon.

[00:39:58] I was shocked. For the rest of [00:40:00] the day, I'm using stimulants to stay awake is never a good idea, and it's particularly troubling though. If you're getting adequate sleep, um, besides the point, you know, as you're finding out now the same way I did, they keep using them a lot. They stop working.

[00:40:18] Okay. So here's what I would do. To your point, Carl. First, I would get a, some sort of sleep tracking device. Frankly, I'd see a doctor, you know, if you're falling asleep during the day, daytime sleepiness is not normal. Okay? Um. Getting a sleep study done. That's quite possibly another thing to do.

[00:40:39] Uh, like you said, to your point, people who usually think they're sleeping adequately, oftentimes they're not. You know, you won't really know. Right. And unless it's accurately tracked and a proper sleep study is sometimes necessary, you might gain some insight, like you said, just [00:41:00] just a Fitbit, I would imagine, would tell you a lot more than.

[00:41:03] You know

[00:41:03] Carl Lanore: [00:41:03] what? The bed, the bed, the best thing is to buy a sleep on ring. There are only like $90 and it checks your blood oxygen. It checks your hypoxia levels. If you are holding your breath at night, you know you're snoring and you're taking longer and longer pauses in between your snores. It measures hypoxia.

[00:41:21] It measures heart rate. So it shows you that if your heart is in dipping, like it's supposed to, when you're resting because you're snoring, you go if you, if you're sleeping. Like I, and the sleep cycle will record every time you snore. Last night I snored for a minute and a half at 1:00 AM in the morning.

[00:41:39] I know that cause it recorded it. And I want to know that because when I, the more I snore, the worse my sleep is.

[00:41:48] Coach Rob Regish: [00:41:48] And given how important sleep is, $90 is a bargain. Car

[00:41:53] Carl Lanore: [00:41:53] and getting the sleep on ring is a sleep study in your finger. It's a little big, it's the size of an almond that [00:42:00] fits on the inside of the ring.

[00:42:02] And so, so all the, all the, the real stuff is back here. So you have your hand close while you're sleeping or whatever. It's checking blood, oxygen. It's telling you if your blood oxygen is dropping, you'll, you'll use that along with the. Sleep cycle app. And in one night you'll go, Oh my God, like I'm suffocating at night, or I'm waking up 40 times at night.

[00:42:23] Like, because I'm

[00:42:24] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:24] snoring. Right? And so, so let me tell you what the end game, and my situation was, um, my testosterone levels, they were totally in the cellar again, on a decent dose of HRT. And I have. Very clean, consistent energy throughout the day. Now, just even nights when I didn't sleep a lot, frankly, you know, I do pretty good in the past.

[00:42:52] I mean, I was a wreck. I can distinctly recall looking up my grandfather and saying, there's no way I'm gonna make it another, [00:43:00] you know, 20 years or 30 years to retirement. But, but let's assume you aren't getting adequate sleep. Um, and, and you're still nodding off during the day. It may be that you have a condition called narcolepsy.

[00:43:13] And I know a lot of people have heard this, including me, um, which is up to and including a sudden loss of consciousness during the day. You can fall asleep for anywhere from a few minutes to half an hour. And if that isn't scary enough, and they're in the process of researching this question further, there's a condition called cataplexy.

[00:43:36] Which can cause a number of physical changes anywhere from slurred speech, uh, to. Lose all strength in your muscles, and that includes your bladder muscles. Cataplexy is uncontrollable and is usually triggered by intense emotions. Interestingly enough, including positive ones like laughter or excitement.

[00:44:00] [00:44:00] It can also sometimes be triggered by fear, surprise, or anger. Anything that apparently is rather subtle. Um. You know, when you laugh, when, when these people laugh, you know, unexpectedly their head boom drops uncontrollably. Um, and though, although they may be conscious, they can't raise their head.

[00:44:23] Think about how much scary, scary that might be. You know, where your or your knees buckle. Um, some people with narcolepsy only experienced one or two episodes of cataplexy a year. Other people. Scarily enough, have numerous episodes daily and you think about that. Think about how terrifying that must be.

[00:44:42] Just getting behind the wheel, right? So you to run errands or to go to and from work. Most physicians, interestingly enough, tell you that there's not a real cure for narcolepsy. And I don't know. That may be true. They may be one of those things where [00:45:00] not enough research money flows in and nobody's looking at it, but.

[00:45:04] It would seem to me that there are ways to at least treat symptoms and you need and be hopped up on stimulants all day just to address it. But definitely AKA Provigil

[00:45:18] Carl Lanore: [00:45:18] stimulants it. But stimulants have, from what I remember, stimulants have the opposite effect on narcoleptics.

[00:45:24] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:24] They may, they may.

[00:45:25] That's good because

[00:45:28] Carl Lanore: [00:45:28] course what they give narcoleptics is G H B. To keep them awake. Wow. And stimulants make them sleepy. So if he was not truly narcoleptic, I think his abuse of caffeine and eff Adriene and things like that would actually make him more tired. So if he's taking them and getting exhausted afterwards, and he may be narcoleptic narcoleptic and he's just using the wrong meds.

[00:45:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:50] The the people that I know, and there aren't a lot of them, it's only two or three that deal with this issue with the way they deal with it is Modafinil. Ah, which is prescribed as a [00:46:00] prescription drug for alertness and awareness. It was originally created with us military funding, um, given it's fighter pilots on transatlantic and transfer perfectly cops.

[00:46:11] Right. They don't respond real well to traditional stimulants. I don't know if you guys are familiar with what an F 16 cockpit is or how big it is, but you take a guy that's just my size, like two 25. You put them in there. It is almost MRI. Like now you take an even bigger guy, put them in there and then give them, you know, Ritalin or whatever to keep them awake on an overseas flight.

[00:46:36] My God, you know, that would be, to me torture. Um, I'd freak out. Freak. Definitely freak out. But definitely is only available with your doctor's prescription. Uh, it is a schedule four drug. Having said that. I'm sure customs are. I would hope they have better things to do right. Then go after [00:47:00] people who want to stay alert during the day and not be hopped up on stimulants.

[00:47:06] At least I would hope so. It is not a stimulant, at least in the traditional STEM. Instead you just have this feeling of being wide awake. Um, and if the focus is quite noticeable as well. You know, there are a lot of students, frankly, that use my definitely, um, a

[00:47:22] Carl Lanore: [00:47:22] lot of pilots, a lot, a lot of everybody that I've got be dead.

[00:47:26] Uh, it's very popular in Silicon Valley and for these guys who are working in the tech area as

[00:47:32] Coach Rob Regish: [00:47:32] well. Right. And so, you know, if the, I guess the good news is, is that Mo Modafinil is a controlled substance. It's pro drug is not okay. So it's the precursor to Modafinil. It takes longer to kick in around 45 minutes in most cases, and you need to take a lot more of it.

[00:47:53] I, you know, your standard Modafinil dose, I think is one to 200 milligrams. You're going to need [00:48:00] six to 900 milligrams, maybe even a little more of a draft and able to get a similar effect. Um, and again, that takes about 45 minutes to kick in. On the, the other downside to a draft, you know, versus Modafinil seems to be, uh, it has much greater liver toxicity.

[00:48:19] And although it's not something you want to be using frequently, I would still to be on the safe side, I'll be using a healthy dose of NAC, cystine that we discussed earlier, or Tuka to UDCA, uh, for liver protection, just to be on the safe side. Um. So if you're going that route, you know, I would, I would start with a draft and I'll let maybe 600 milligrams go up 300 milligrams.

[00:48:47] Most pills are 300 milligrams. What I've seen, um, and if that's still not cutting it, see your doctor about what Avenue, you know, it's not like you're walking into the guy and saying, Hey. [00:49:00] Give me a prescription for those amphetamines, Ritalin, or you know, whatever. Uh, you're much more likely to get a subscription for Modafinil, although don't be surprised if he or she recommends what we just did, which was, Hey, let's get a sleep study done first.

[00:49:18] You know, to see what's really going on.

[00:49:20] Carl Lanore: [00:49:20] Yeah. Something's going on. I want to answer this question before we take our break. Excuse me. This is from Nathan Haney. A is. He goes by Nathan Joseph on his personal page. He's an amazing boxer, and he's saying that he has an acute shoulder problem and he can't rest because he's preparing for the most important fight of his life.

[00:49:42] Uh. But the point, the bone at the top of my shoulder is sore to the touch. This attendant issue. It could be soft tissue for sure. And, and here's, here's what you're talking about. So the acromion bone, that bone that goes across the top of your shoulder [00:50:00] has a, a joint in it that allows a little flexibility in the tip called the AC joint.

[00:50:06] And that could be the source of your, your pain. Uh, it's also, uh, presses down against the bursa that, that starts off and, and capsulates the, the deltoid, uh, the medial deltoid. Go ahead. Tell deltoid muscle as well. Um, I have a funny feeling that, uh, VPC one 57 and a thymus in beta for site injected, uh, possibly even mechanical growth factor.

[00:50:39] Uh, pegylated the MGF. Uh, what would cure this inside of a few days to a week tops,

[00:50:45] Coach Rob Regish: [00:50:45] you hear it all the time.

[00:50:48] Carl Lanore: [00:50:48] Uh, but that, that's most, most likely soft tissue because that AC joint is designed, if my finger is, is the acro Meehan right here at this knuckle, [00:51:00] there is a, uh, a gap, a gap of bone that is filled in with soft tissue so that the tip of that can move and have a little bit of flexibility to it.

[00:51:09] But when you overextend your, your, your shoulder, the bone doesn't just snap. And so something you're doing repetitively probably thrown the way you throw a punch. Maybe the way you throwing a punch from, from low to up. Um, with that arm, did he say it was his left arm? He didn't say, uh, is, is, is causing a, uh, a repetitive motion injury?

[00:51:39] Uh, overuse injury, you know, like a bursitis or tendonitis or in that joint there, uh, just because of the way you explained it, that it's the top of the bone. And so I absolutely, uh, thymus and beta for BPC one 57 and McConnell growth factors. Um, I would do, um, [00:52:00] I would do a half a milligram of BPC one 57.

[00:52:05] I would do a one milligram of thymus in beta four, and then I would probably do 250 micrograms of McConnell growth factor right into that area twice a day, just for three days. That's all you need it probably three days. Um, and you know, you just have to pull the skin up, have somebody do it for you.

[00:52:26] If they have to pull the skin up, you don't have to stick it in. The AC joint, you'd have to get it localized so that as it, it drains into the body, it hits that area first before it goes on in searches for receptors elsewhere. Um, but I would absolutely, and I, and I predict that if you did that three days in a row, uh, twice a day, like I'm saying, uh, within a week it'd be gone and it'd be gone for good

[00:52:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:51] to me.

[00:52:51] You know, you hear that all the time, even when P P S is the only greener tape. Yeah. Yeah. [00:53:00] I know it sounds like people are over selling this stuff, but I mean, those reports are common,

[00:53:05] Carl Lanore: [00:53:05] even though even dr seeds is oral stuff. I mean, I got something this morning on my Facebook page from Joe Mazza.

[00:53:10] I think it was him. Joe Mazza. Hold, hold on, let me, I don't want to, I don't want to misquote somebody name and not give them credit for something, but, um, let's see who it was. Uh, Mark, I'm sorry, Mark. Mazzeo. He said, thank you, Carl for hosting dr seed's VPC, one 57 on your show. One bottle in, and my nagging hip and knee pain is almost completely gone at 59 no pain is a good thing.

[00:53:38] So that's the one that's the one peptide that you can deliver orally, cause it, it's actually made in your gut naturally. So the gut knows what to do with it. But the MGF. A McConnell growth factor and the thymus in beta for a, you can't take those orally. Uh, so you'd have to inject those in the site.

[00:53:59] But [00:54:00] again, you'd probably just need to do it for three or four days and that, and not, not have to do it anymore. And much more than that because you'd probably feel better by then. And if you did want to, you could keep running, uh, just back out the MGF and you could keep running, uh, and, and the thymus in beta for.

[00:54:15] And just keep running the BPC for free until it's all gone. That's all

[00:54:19] Coach Rob Regish: [00:54:19] it is. PPC band by any sporting organization?

[00:54:22] Carl Lanore: [00:54:22] Of course not.

[00:54:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:54:23] No. No. Say how could they, it's naturally occurring in

[00:54:26] Carl Lanore: [00:54:26] the, how do you find it? It's not something that's, you know, how do you find that? Like what do you, you got, they remember the Tesco growth hormone don't even work.

[00:54:35] Coach Rob Regish: [00:54:35] Yeah. I'm just saying, I'm thinking he's a high level boxer, obviously, so he might have to consider some of those things.

[00:54:41] Carl Lanore: [00:54:41] Well, of course he, and, and I'm just telling you what would cure the problem. And then obviously I would also take, um, you know, a little bit of vitamin C every day along with some collagen, uh, protein, uh, good quality collagen protein, like something from great lakes.

[00:54:56] Ah, let's do this. Let's take a quick commercial break. When we come back, we'll wrap [00:55:00] up the show. We have a couple more questions, and then we had a couple things we wanted to talk about, so stay tuned. We'll be right back. Let me get the music grow linear. I'm really behind on my job today. Here we

[00:55:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:55:09] go.

[00:55:14] Carl Lanore: [00:55:14] Welcome back. I put a tag up here. We have a listener named Carl Lenore,

[00:55:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:55:23] and

[00:55:24] Carl Lanore: [00:55:24] he said to check out peptide sciences.com and use the code SHR for 10% off a smart phone. You do need any a VPC? I was in alpha one. I was in beta for MGF IGF. Use the pegylated version of MDF. It lasts longer, it makes a difference.

[00:55:41] All right. So, uh, let's see. Next question. I'm sorry. Uh, do we have, let me say how many more questions we have cause we, then we had a topic we want them to cover as

[00:55:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:55:50] well. So let me just see something here. What's that secret around? We did the first three questions, so we shouldn't be,

[00:55:58] Carl Lanore: [00:55:58] no, let's see [00:56:00] here.

[00:56:00] George Corgan, we just,

[00:56:02] Coach Rob Regish: [00:56:02] uh,

[00:56:03] Carl Lanore: [00:56:03] John Barlow. What would you do. For weak shoulders. I'm using a Wendler is five, three, one and going lots of doing lots of pressing upright rows and other direct shoulder work. What really works and why are they so difficult for me to

[00:56:19] Coach Rob Regish: [00:56:19] grow? Yeah. You know? Um, for most people, shoulders are not the most difficult body parts to grow, nor are they usually the weakest shoulders.

[00:56:28] Actually DRO. Pretty well on most guys. The, and there's an old saying and it's very true, and that's, you can't hide weak shoulders. Um, but normally the issue is not in getting the muscles to hypertrophy, but rather a pure people with a narrow, let's call it bone structure. So it's a bit like having wide hips, right?

[00:56:53] You can't change your bone structure, but. Oh, we're going to look at an example here of a guy who had less [00:57:00] than optimal genetics for shoulders. Um, and he was a guy by the name of Larry Scott. Larry Scott, when he started training in 1956 he is narrow. Shoulders were particular weak spot, but he went out and he found a solution to that.

[00:57:19] And his first and most important solution was a guy by the name of Vince Geronda. Correct. And then subsequently, um, Scott became best known for his arm development. Now, but when it comes to Scott, though, there are a couple things I want you to focus on. Actually. Three, the first of which is, okay, you may have had a narrow bone structure for shoulders, but number two, he went out and he found an extremely powerful ally in Vince Geronda.

[00:57:54] Uh, and if you don't know who he is, we'll get to it. But suffice to say, he's one of history's greatest [00:58:00] trainers, and that has no understatement. Um, and then finally he became one of the best built men in history. Okay. So when he found himself with narrow shoulders, which was point number one, notice what he did not do.

[00:58:17] He did not resign himself. To a life of bodybuilding obscurity, just because his shoulder girdle was narrow. Instead, he trained out of the supervision of the greatest bodybuilding coach of all time by many people's count with Geronda. So he, he knew we had a problem and then he got helped. Notice where it's helped income from, didn't come from a pill, a powder, or a potion that needle.

[00:58:43] None of that stuff. Okay. He got some of the best help in the business from one of the best brains in the business. Second, Scott didn't let a bad genetic hand define who he was because to this day, Larry Scott is known for [00:59:00] his arm development. Okay. He had some of the best, most of the statically pleasing arms and biggest, especially for his body weight that we're ever seen, I want to say in a body weight of about 210 pounds.

[00:59:12] He had a legitimate 20 inch arm, muddy human Tigger. Um, and so in that respect, nobody was talking about his shoulders instead, you know, they all wanted to build arms like him. As a result of those issues. Number one and two, he became one of the best built men in history. In fact, during his heyday, it was something known as Larry fever.

[00:59:36] Okay. He became the very first mr Olympia in 1965 and then defended his title and won again the following year, receiving a ven record purse of. $1,000. If you can imagine that. I would tell you a few things. Then based upon, you know, w what you've shared with me. [01:00:00] First, I would ditch the standing overhead press, um, for the handstand pushups and I would train that using one quarter inch mat, starting with eight to 10 of them stacked up on top of each other.

[01:00:12] As soon as you can do seven reps, pull one mat out. And which extends the range of motion. Right. And it makes it a little more difficult, at which point the reps will drop again before building them back up and going through the whole same Rick and Merkel. Um, in short order, you should be able to do full handstand pushups, which are an incredible feat of strength.

[01:00:38] Okay. And you should continue. To add weight to those in the form of a weight fast or you know, whatever other apparatus is necessary. You can also make them more difficult by performing them on handles, which extended the range of motion. Right? Cause they had us go down even farther to preserve a [01:01:00] higher volume of sets and reps though after that strength work, what I like to do is add some of the mats back.

[01:01:09] And then do partial and stay on presses after that. Meaning, you know, you go from doing full range, one or two reps with a heavyweight to half handstand pushups for much higher reps. you know, maybe two or three sets of 10 to 12 the pump that you get in your shoulders should be absolutely.

[01:01:33] Brutal, and you can't even imagine it. Something, you know, I never got from any amount of standing or seated barbell or dumbbell shoulder press work for whatever reason. That's just how it is. Uh, and for whatever reason, even the one bone on bone in this elbow, I can do hamster and shoulder presses without pain.

[01:01:57] I can't do. They can't anymore anyway, do [01:02:00] standing, um, a barbell presses. As for the upright rows, I would drop those like a bad habit because they are a, it is a terrible movement in my opinion, and it puts the shoulders at major risk for injury, especially. Due to the fact that most guys get carried away with the amount of weight and now they're slinging it, then there's more momentum in the movement than muscle contraction.

[01:02:26] But even if that wasn't the case, I still do not like to move. I just, I've seen a lot more bad things happen that good things. If you are able to do at least one, let's say barbell press, I would make it the Bradford press, and this is a version of the. Standing overhead, barbell lift, which is you're using a very moderate, moderate weight, but essentially you start from a point below the chin, you press the barbell up just until it clears to the top of the head, and then you bring it down [01:03:00] behind the neck, and then you reverse that to a point.

[01:03:03] Now where you're under the chin again, that is considered one full rep. If you can perform two or three sets of six such reps, uh, then I would ask you, tell me what you notice. And what I noticed, what I always noticed, which I didn't get out of any other movement, including the antsy and shoulder press, was an intense contraction and pump in every head of the shoulders.

[01:03:31] Those being the front, the medial in the back, right, the rear. Um. As far as what movements to finish with. I never liked the dumb, the side and dumbbell lateral race. I just think it's another movement where guys get carried away with the weight and even if they don't, it places your joints in a very unfavorable position.

[01:03:53] Right, and due to the arc of the movement and how far away the dumbbell gets from the fulcrum. [01:04:00] Again, I've seen more bad things happen than goods. Instead, I would do a couple of sets of dumbbell front raises, and personally, I do not use an overhand grip. I use a pronated grip and I perform it for high reps, high reps being defined as anywhere from 12 to 20.

[01:04:21] Um. Let's see, what else can I say? Oh, a lot of people asked me about, you know, the, my rear delts are weak. Shouldn't I be doing bent over dumbbell, you know, side library. I didn't know. The answer is no. And the reason is there's a reason you have poor delts, rear delts. The same reason that most guys have a substandard back.

[01:04:42] They failed to perform as many pulling movements as they do, pushing movements. So as an example, um, when I go to work. You know, let's say chest and back. I am super setting seed cable rows with close [01:05:00] grip pushups with my feet up on the wall. I am doing set for set and rep for rep equal for both of those.

[01:05:10] Okay. So it's usually anywhere between three and five sets of between, you know. Seven and 10 repetitions. Uh, occasionally I'll play with lowering the rest intervals in there. But look, think about it like this. Your rear delts, are they going to grow better by using light dumbbells, leaning over, doing, you know, bent over side dumbbell races?

[01:05:36] Or are they going to grow more if you're using a very substantial weight. On a CD, cable row, or any other deserving rowing movement. Of course, you know, the one that we're using more weights can work much better if your back is also going to grow along with it. So, um, there is one other movement though that I would [01:06:00] tell you is worthwhile.

[01:06:02] For the rear delts if you're still having trouble and that would be sitting facing into a Peck deck and then moving the shoulders to the rear. It is probably the only valid use for the pec tech in my mind. Um, but it does seem to do the trick for a lot of guys. So, um, it is also worth remembering this shoulders are kinda like knees.

[01:06:28] You need to be very careful with the amount of work and overload that you're throwing at them. Your shoulders don't or shouldn't need a lot of extra work. You're right. Cause if you think about it, if you're doing justice to, you're pushing and pulling movements like I just described, your delts are getting plenty of work.

[01:06:48] You know, they really are. Um, and, and I'll admit I'm less than, there was probably one of my better muscle groups, but. For all the work I've seen guys put it in the [01:07:00] little fly movements, you know, I would tell them all together, stop doing the upright rows and pour yourself into your pressing and pulling movements.

[01:07:09] You're going to build the shoulders.

[01:07:13] Carl Lanore: [01:07:13] Uh, this next question,

[01:07:18] I had the luxury of being able to read it while you were talking. Let me just drink some water.

[01:07:24] Coach Rob Regish: [01:07:24] And do a

[01:07:31] Carl Lanore: [01:07:31] little research,

[01:07:36] I'm sorry. This has been hanging on. Adam Duvall says, um, I have a question about deaths and bodybuilding and power lifting and strength sports in general. Why do so many people avoid the real reason steroids. Am

[01:07:54] Coach Rob Regish: [01:07:54] I to

[01:07:54] Carl Lanore: [01:07:54] believe so many died before 50 due to natural causes. Why is it [01:08:00] always swept under the rug?

[01:08:02] Because it's not steroids. It's Paul Anderson died at 62. Um, and if you, if you want to be fair to the discussion, you could do a cursory review of research on pub med about the rate of death. And smaller versus big people. There's a lot of research out there and bigger people, I'm sorry to tell you, this goes for me too, but small people live longer than big people.

[01:08:36] Big people die sooner. Um, they even looked at just basketball players, um, since they're not like strength athletes and sure enough, they die sooner. Ah, then counterparts who are smaller and so, um, it's not the steroids. Now is that to say rich Piana, [01:09:00] his steroid use didn't contribute along with his cocaine use and everything else to his, his so enlarged heart that it just couldn't beat anymore.

[01:09:13] Yeah, probably, but so did cocaine. And not every bodybuilder power lifter is out there doing cocaine. So, you know, it's really a miss diagnosis to say that power lifters and bodybuilders die young exclusively because of steroid use, because while we have the losses. In the category, the high level losses, you know, rich Piana, Dallas, uh, um, what was his last name?

[01:09:44] I can't think of it. I'm so sorry. What is

[01:09:46] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:46] it? McCarver.

[01:09:47] Carl Lanore: [01:09:47] Yeah. McCarver thank you. Um, and, and people before them. We also have a much larger, vastly larger, much greater size of [01:10:00] bodybuilders who use drugs that didn't die. So, you know, w we, we look at these, you know, we say take these, let's say 26 guys, cause I did a show with, um, dr uh, uh, what's his name?

[01:10:17] George about this. You know, we look at these 16 guys that died very young that were bodybuilders, but we forget that behind them, our 6,000 guys that didn't die young, who used drugs that were bodybuilders.

[01:10:34] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:34] Yup. Yup.

[01:10:35] Carl Lanore: [01:10:35] So it's, it's, it's, it's really a disingenuous question. Ah, big people do die faster.

[01:10:41] Vape people do die. Younger, small people live longer. Um, there was one study I looked at once that showed like for every four inches, you are taller than this, your longevity will go down by that. And so, you know, but, but really, bodybuilders and power lifters are not [01:11:00] dying in greater degree of numbers.

[01:11:02] Uh, then the general population by far. And, uh, if anything, there's a lot more than a living that haven't died yet. And they're in their sixties and, and older.

[01:11:13] Coach Rob Regish: [01:11:13] So the devil is always in the details. Okay. And so I want you to consider the following. So on one hand you can say that methyl one test of steroids is incredibly toxic, potentially dangerous and continuous.

[01:11:30] Uninterrupted high dose use would almost assuredly result in an early death from something. On the other hand, you could say that testosterone also of steroids is relatively benign, not at all dangerous, and in many cases, benefits. Not just mortality, but also morbidity or the quality of people's lives.

[01:11:56] Right? Book statements are truthful. [01:12:00] Both are accurate. Both are steroids. One will likely add to your Demaro the other subtract from it. The problem is this Republic, the public isn't concerned with details, neither is the press. They like simple stories that are easily understood and the media for its part.

[01:12:22] A is not concerned with, with just pales. Okay?

[01:12:26] Carl Lanore: [01:12:26] They're not, they're not concerned with facts. They're concerned. What is counterintuitive because that gets people to tune in,

[01:12:35] Coach Rob Regish: [01:12:35] easy to understand and grasp headlines and concepts or their entire reason for being and along the way, for whatever reason, they, in my mind, they followed.

[01:12:47] Sport governing bodies and then government, they decided that all steroids were bad guys. Even the one that belongs in your body, testosterone in both males and females, that's a, that's a bad [01:13:00] guy. It's really a classic case of the baby being thrown out with the bath water. I'm wanting to give you one other example because it's very pertinent.

[01:13:10] In the mid nineties there was an up and coming power lifter under this to tillage of Louie Simmons called map de mill. He was setting the world on fire. So I had a body weight of almost 385 pounds. He squatted over a thousand using Luis methods and had likewise monster told. And then at the tender age of 33 he dropped it.

[01:13:35] And at the time, not much was said about it. Okay. But of course, the speculation swirled that it was copious amounts of anabolic steroids. Uh, his extreme body weight, DMD and caring, or some combination of those two that were responsible. Even, I gotta admit this, even I, up until just recently assumed that that was the case.

[01:14:00] [01:14:00] Okay? We were all wrong. Matthew metal died after his stripper girlfriend loaded a syringe up with an eight bottle of Coke and two grams of heroin. And shot it into his arm.

[01:14:15] Carl Lanore: [01:14:15] She was trying to kill him.

[01:14:18] Coach Rob Regish: [01:14:18] God only knows what to

[01:14:19] Carl Lanore: [01:14:19] cause. She had to be trying to kill him. She had

[01:14:22] Coach Rob Regish: [01:14:22] to be, yeah. Yep. His heart literally exploded and he was found face down, leading right out of his mouth.

[01:14:30] Heart literally exploded. I don't know much about illegal drugs. Uh, what grams of even supplements. Never mind. Powerful. Illegal drugs are scary to me. Uh, look, I'm not telling you that staying on tons of gear for decades at a time with known family history of heart disease, high blood pressure.

[01:14:55] Bad lipids like Dallas McCarver and others had. I'm not telling you [01:15:00] that's not gonna do you some harm, okay? But far more dangerous in bodybuilding today, if you want to talk about bodybuilding drugs is insulin, which can kill you in minutes if you shoot too much or you don't get enough carbs.

[01:15:15] You're both diuretics. Which can kill you in minutes via right and excretion of too much of potassium and other things that kinda keep your heart beating, right? Uh, or painkillers, which, and overdose of the opioid based painkillers can shut down your breathing. It happens every day in this country and the VAT.

[01:15:42] And here's the scary part, especially about the opioids. The vast. Vast majority of people dying are not bodybuilders. They are everyday people like you and me. They got hooked. Many of them, I just talked to a woman two [01:16:00] nights ago about this. She's still reeling from it. They got hooked on opioid painkillers by doctors.

[01:16:10] Who will never be held accountable because of their big pharma cohorts in this manslaughter that they've caused are both untouchable. They use their ungodly amounts of money and their influence on Capitol Hill to insulate them from almost any real litigation or consequences no matter what happens to you from taking their drugs.

[01:16:40] So, so yes, Adam, I imagine somebody, builders and other strength athletes may die from using known to be toxic steroids after decades of gross abuse. Um, but before you jump even to that conclusion, and I challenge [01:17:00] anybody listening to do this, I want you to visit. Any emergency room in the country.

[01:17:05] Take your pick, sit there for a day, a week or a year. How

[01:17:11] Carl Lanore: [01:17:11] many bodybuilders come in? That needs

[01:17:13] Coach Rob Regish: [01:17:13] to be a February if you want, and count how many steroid overdose victims come in just clinging to life. There are daddy, if you don't believe me, try it. You'll see. And in the unlikely event, you see one or two that is a drop in the bucket to the millions who are dying millions from alcohol, tobacco, and painkillers.

[01:17:43] Carl Lanore: [01:17:43] And that's why it's so disingenuous and it's such nonsense how we and our government are selective about what things we will tolerate. Causing mass death. Right? Like if we, if [01:18:00] we said no, anything that causes this kind of death we have to do away with, that's the right thing to do for the human population, then yeah, then tobacco would be gone.

[01:18:08] Uh, alcohol would be restricted, probably not gone, but restricted its use would be restricted. Um. I, and, and, and, and there's other high risk behaviors that people partake in that probably would be restricted. Uh, but we don't, we don't, we don't care as long as, as long as the government is making tax dollars on tobacco products, tax dollars on, um, you know, I said something the other day, I feel bad for police officers today, and I'll tell you why.

[01:18:40] Because they take their orders. From the justice system and the justice system has become a business. It's become a business like a business. You want to increase the number of customers you have.

[01:18:59] Coach Rob Regish: [01:18:59] Yeah. The

[01:19:00] [01:18:59] Carl Lanore: [01:18:59] problem with that is that the justice system does this in ways where police officers are forced to go out and do things that the public knows.

[01:19:12] Are scurrilous, but the cop has no choice because he's got his boss, his foot in his ass saying, you got to quota, you got to arrest a certain number. People, I don't care if there's nobody out there doing crime, find somebody. And, and so police officers aren't allowed to police the way they should any longer because justice has become a business.

[01:19:37] And I was telling this to Elisa just yesterday. I said. Let me put it to you in a very, very, very easy way to think about it. If you got paid $100 every time you spanked your kids, there'd be a lot of child abuse in America.

[01:19:53] Coach Rob Regish: [01:19:53] A lot

[01:19:54] Carl Lanore: [01:19:54] people would be beating their kids four or five times. That's $500 a day.

[01:19:57] I don't have to go to work. Think about that. This [01:20:00] is true. So when you take a police officer and you say you have a quota. You have a quota, you have to arrest this many people. You are, then you are predicting that crime is going to happen when maybe it's not and you're putting police in a position where they have to go stop a guy that they probably wouldn't have stopped, but they're thinking, shit, I got a quota.

[01:20:20] I got, I got my boss breathing down my neck that I, I'm going to go see this guy. I'm going to see what this guy is up to. Maybe I'll find something. Maybe I won't, but I got it because that's my job. Now, police officers don't. Uphold the law. They are representatives now of a business model that is designed to increase the number of people that get pulled into the net so that cities who are bankrupt can generate money off of the backs of their citizens without having to go and raise taxes.

[01:21:00] [01:20:59] I, I, it's, it's, it's, it's scandalous. And this is the problem. The day that law enforcement became a business, it's the day that everything fell apart.

[01:21:12] Coach Rob Regish: [01:21:12] Yeah.

[01:21:13] Carl Lanore: [01:21:13] I mean, think about that. If you got paid $100 every time you spank your kid, like there was a. A law that said, you know, we want a better parenting, and so we want parents to be more disciplinary with their kids.

[01:21:23] Every time you spank your kid, you get a $100 man. It'd be a lot of kids catching Beaton's for no reason at all. Mom comes in and says, I wish I could have that new hat. Dad thinks, man, I wish I could buy it for a Joey. Did you clean your room and you go and give the kid a Beaton? You got $100 I mean, think about it.

[01:21:40] I know it's far fetched. I know people gonna go, Oh, Carl, this is the most ridiculous, but it really is what. Yeah. Judicial system has become, it really is

[01:21:50] Coach Rob Regish: [01:21:50] and liquidate, liquidate, and it's got up here. Opioids. Now, the number one killer of Americans under that group.

[01:21:57] Carl Lanore: [01:21:57] Yeah. I just dropped out.

[01:21:58] I had it up there the whole time. [01:22:00] Um,

[01:22:01] Coach Rob Regish: [01:22:01] my, my just last thing, my wife's son's an EMT. He actually tells us he's really a garbage man because almost every call he goes to. Because picking up junkies that have overdosed. Yeah.

[01:22:13] Carl Lanore: [01:22:13] That's sad. Let's get this last question. And Jerry Byers says, I don't train with a training partner, and my high school gym is pretty limited in what it has.

[01:22:22] A few power racks, a few benches, mostly mismatch dumbbells. How am I supposed to train and gain and a place like this?

[01:22:33] Coach Rob Regish: [01:22:33] I would tell you. What do you perceive as limited? Uh, resources are actually the best thing that could've ever happened to you. Cause I'll give you one quick example. When I was 1516, I was brought to a parish rectory.

[01:22:51] They had a dozen universal machines, the latest and greatest, right? And I trained on those for, I dunno, two or three years [01:23:00] before I got to college. When I got to college, the weight room that we had consisted of, there was one power rack, two leg presses, uh, three bench presses and inclined press, and a whole slew of mismatched bar, uh, dumbbells laying all over the ground and I was dirt poor.

[01:23:23] I had no money. What I did have though, I was on the meal plan, so I could go to the dining hall three times a day and. So as a consequence of limited resources, um, my workouts consisted of squatting, pressing deadlifting, uh, or you know, Rose presses, and we had to improvise. You know, you wanted to do something like a T bar row.

[01:23:50] You jammed one end of the barbell on the corner of the gym. You loaded the other one up with weight, you straddled the bar, you grabbed it, and you wrote it. And, and Oh, by the [01:24:00] way. I made more pride, and this is no exaggeration, I made more progress in the span of six months in that dirt hole.

[01:24:11] Jim, if you, after you want to call it with no machines in that. Then I made in three years of training. On universal machines. And at one point, this was, this is even worse than universal. They brought, they said, we're getting new machines. I said, well, what kind? And they said, the latest new MADEC resistance.

[01:24:34] And so what this is, is. Yeah. You know, it's like that little hump on the side of your screen door. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. It keeps them from closing too fast. Yeah. That's exactly what these things were. And so

[01:24:49] Carl Lanore: [01:24:49] it was even the worst. They all, but they offer by directional resistance because when you push, the air would go up and then you'd pull

[01:24:59] Coach Rob Regish: [01:24:59] it.

[01:25:00] [01:25:00] Yep.

[01:25:01] Carl Lanore: [01:25:01] Yeah. Directional resistance. Pneumatic training.

[01:25:06] Coach Rob Regish: [01:25:06] So, you know, long story short, the more advanced we think we become, at least with respect to resistance training devices, uh, the further backwards we go, uh, you know, for my money, the rolling about a couple things that have come along since barbells and dumbbells that add to their effect bans.

[01:25:28] Like, you know, I can simply say, bans, uh. Perhaps chains and, uh, you know, not much else. If you want a great workout, you know, go buy yourself a weight Fest and a book on body weight training, you

[01:25:43] Carl Lanore: [01:25:43] know, buy you a cup of weight fast and go for a walk. Go for a go for a hike.

[01:25:48] Coach Rob Regish: [01:25:48] Right? And if you want to see.

[01:25:50] If you want to see what 20 pounds of fat's going to duty, you throw that 20 pound weight. That's fun to walk upstairs, see what it's like carrying that around and now to [01:26:00] finally to, to your point that you made before about heavier people dying, you know, earlier than lighter one. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny because I have this discussion with my wife the other day.

[01:26:11] I said, you know, I don't know about this, but. I rather doubt I'm going to live well into my nineties like my grandfather's. For the simple reason that they were very slight map. Yeah. One weighed no more than 130 pounds in his life. And the other one I think was one 65.

[01:26:30] Carl Lanore: [01:26:30] Although I, although I think we are at a point now where we understand why bigger people die sooner, and it's because they, they, uh, accumulate more senescent cells faster because the more fuel you put through the body, the greater the accumulation of byproducts that are left behind that are.

[01:26:47] That are metabolic waste.

[01:26:50] Coach Rob Regish: [01:26:50] And we can

[01:26:50] Carl Lanore: [01:26:50] do things about that. We understand that intimate and fasting and upregulating autophagy we understand about using drugs like rapid myosin one day, [01:27:00] every two weeks. Uh, you know, we understand that getting good sleep, uh, you know, heavier people snore, Oh, who knows the contribution of obstructive sleep apnea to the big guys that trained and was so big and strong and they snore.

[01:27:13] So there's a lot of things that we can do now to help tilt the scale blood, regular blood donation, and we, all these things help big guys live longer. Uh, you know, my father lived into his eighties. He probably could have lived another 10 years, but he, he really didn't take care of himself at the end.

[01:27:32] He stayed up all night all the time, and he ate the wrong foods. And I know why he stayed up all night all the time, cause he was miserable. He was sad. He was aging. He. He felt like he, you know, he didn't have his youth anymore. He was probably depressed to a certain degree.

[01:27:47] Coach Rob Regish: [01:27:47] Yeah. And I don't know about you, but you know, I do not want to live from 95 and spend five years in my bed.

[01:27:54] You know, where I can't go to the bathroom by myself. I, I would rather check out in. In [01:28:00] in the gym or my sleep 15 years earlier. Yeah.

[01:28:02] Carl Lanore: [01:28:02] He probably didn't want to take care of himself cause he didn't want to live longer. Aiden Ray says maybe looking to be a fall blood flow restriction training as an option.

[01:28:10] Uh, if not tons of weights available. We will have the premier BFR company as a sponsor probably this week. That'll go live on our website. They are, they are. The safest, most effective blo blood flow restriction training system, because it's built around the actual katsu science. Uh, and so I've been, I haven't been trained, I haven't trained that a week, but before I went on the cruise, I was using them and I was like, I'm going to say something right now to you.

[01:28:39] BFR is better than than steroids. If you want to build bigger muscles, if all you care about is building bigger muscles as a few, want bigger biceps, bigger triceps, bigger quads, bigger calves, bigger forearms, bigger shoulders, that's all you care about. And you're not using BFR, you're wasting your time [01:29:00] because nothing else that you're going to do will be as effective.

[01:29:03] And I'm saying that with all honesty, I could. I looked at this product and I thought I held onto it for months and didn't even try it. I thought this is nonsense and I'm not going to wear these stupid things into the gym and look like a dork. And then one day, Kirkland Moore lady who does some work for me.

[01:29:19] He said he's been using them and he thinks that they're great. And I thought, okay, so let me try it. And within two days I was like, Oh my God, this could actually, uh, this could actually be more effective than anabolic steroids in building muscle

[01:29:33] Coach Rob Regish: [01:29:33] is physique certainly speaks for itself.

[01:29:35] Carl Lanore: [01:29:35] He's in great shape.

[01:29:36] He's in great shape, but stay tuned because we're gonna have a discount code and we're going to have an amazing offer. And if you've been wanting to take the plunge into BFR, we're going to give you a reason to do it. I think that's it. I think we've covered everything we need to cover, brother.

[01:29:51] Coach Rob Regish: [01:29:51] Yep. Great. Well, thank you for having me. I'm sorry I was a little under the weather, but thought it was a good show. Oh yeah.

[01:29:57] Carl Lanore: [01:29:57] And you'll feel better. We'll talk to you later and we'll see [01:30:00] everybody tomorrow with, Oh, tomorrow we're doing a show about breastfeeding. You're not going to want to miss no matter whether you are a man or a woman.

[01:30:05] Seriously. It's gotta be a really cool show, so we'll talk to everybody then. Thanks for listening today.