Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] [00:00:00] welcome back to another episode of super human radio. Today is Tuesday. We're starting the week off on Tuesday. Uh, I was still traveling. Today is Tuesday, December 17th, 2019.

[00:00:12] The holiday season is getting close to us here and today, since it's Tuesday, we have the blueprint Powell hour with my

[00:00:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:00:20] cohost,

[00:00:21] Carl Lanore: [00:00:21] coach Rob Rogers. Let's play his theme music here as we bring him on.  calling all blueprint army, fall in line. It's time

[00:00:31] Coach Rob Regish: [00:00:31] for the blueprint power hour with coach Rob Gish on the superhuman radio network.

[00:00:40] Carl Lanore: [00:00:40] Rob, can you adjust your camera a little bit or come up? Yeah, just so your head comes up a little bit. There you go. You're good there. Uh, which dog was that?

[00:00:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:00:49] That was Molly, the wonder dog. She's the puppy. Yup. No less than a year old golden retriever. Um, and she's a wonderful dog. She choose [00:01:00] a lot of stuff up, but you know, she's a puppy.

[00:01:02] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:01:03] Carl Lanore: [00:01:03] You got to cut them some

[00:01:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:03] Slack when they're young.

[00:01:05] Carl Lanore: [00:01:05] Anyway, how are you?

[00:01:07] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:07] I'm doing well. Um, I'll have some updates on, uh, you know, some health issues today on the, on the newer side of things. Uh, the coach rod ruggish website. Has been updated with all new Q and A's, so people should head over there.

[00:01:22] Uh, at your leisure and read all the free stuff. And there's quite a bit of writ over there. I also just wrote a new article, um, for masses newsletter about tribulus. Terrestris is lesser known benefits. And this was really, really interesting. The stuff that I uncovered about it, um, because nobody else is talking about it, but it's there in the study.

[00:01:46] So it's a real eyeopener. Uh, I'm hoping people will take advantage. If you want to read it, you can go to bodybuilding supplements.com forward slash newsletter and uh, it'll take you right to it. [00:02:00] Some, some pretty incredible stuff, especially for the aging athlete. Hmm. Yeah.

[00:02:06] Carl Lanore: [00:02:06] Martin Juergen says, Oh, I'm sorry.

[00:02:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:09] I was just going to say, because Cynthia Jen is still out of stock. Um, he's running a really nice 15% off sale on it now. So if you're interested, it's a, it's a great product.

[00:02:22] Carl Lanore: [00:02:22] Martin Juergen says, I heard you saying, I got feedback. This is going to be tough. I Martin Jergenson said, I heard you saying your gym just got a reverse hyper mind, supposedly is to, in your opinion, how good is it?

[00:02:35] I've heard it can handle. You can add a hundred pounds to someone's squat or deadlift a, why should I use it? And do you have any suggestions on sets, reps and schemes?

[00:02:47] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:47] Right. So we've, we've discussed the story behind the reverse hyper before. Um, this is a piece of equipment, uh, developed by Louis Simmons that works the entire posterior [00:03:00] chain in unison, that being the glutes, hams and the lower back right.

[00:03:06] But what makes us unique is that unlike the squatter deadlift, there is no vertical compression of the spine. As a matter of fact, if it is used correctly, the reverse hyper actually can decompress the lower spine due to, um, the tractioning effect, uh, that is put on it. So, so first, I guess I'll address the loading.

[00:03:31] And then I'll get to the claims of, you know, how much it can add to your deadlifts and so forth because they are out there and they cause a lot of confusion for people. So the ideal in my mind is to perform the reverse hyper twice a week. One of those workouts is going to be a lighter one. The other one's going to be a heavier one, um, with a little more motion or swinging to the pendulum arm.

[00:03:56] But if possible, whenever possible. [00:04:00] Uh, perform those reverse hypers after you've just squatted or dead lifted, I think you're going to find it does a really nice job decompressing the back. So, um, now let's talk about the two workouts. On the heavy day, you're going to be loading a lot of weight on there, possibly even dance too, and you're, you're going to perform it where there's a maximal swinging motion.

[00:04:24] So in essence. You're kicking back is as hard as you can. Try and get your legs to be parallel, um, and that you're allowing the pendulum arm to pull your legs underneath. So to a point, actually where the weight is below your face, and that's what's responsible for pumping up the, uh. Or decompressing rather, the lower back the other day is to use a lesser amount of weight and instead of using a swinging motion, the ideal is to cut that range of [00:05:00] motion in half.

[00:05:01] So a little stricter form, um, and a little more hamstring involvement due to that. The key on both of those days. If you're performing, the reverse hyper is to keep your legs straight. The temptation will be to perform almost like a leg curl and that that's not the correct motion. You want to keep the legs as straight as possible.

[00:05:27] One of the best ways to do that, I found a great cue is to point your toes directly backwards, or at least try. Okay. So keeping the leg straight straight. Very, very important.

[00:05:41] Carl Lanore: [00:05:41] And, and you know what? And if you do have lumbar spine compression, yup. Don't use any weight for a long time.

[00:05:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:05:50] If you

[00:05:50] Carl Lanore: [00:05:50] do have lower back pain.

[00:05:52] Just use the machine with no weight, because just articulating the, uh, you know, the, the [00:06:00] lumbar spine through the, uh, uh, Sai joint, uh, is going to be a lot of work for your lower back.

[00:06:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:06:09] Yeah. These are, thank you for clarifying that. My recommendations are assuming healthy backs, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[00:06:17] Carl Lanore: [00:06:17] It's great for the lower back.

[00:06:18] In fact, I'm actually thinking about buying one and donating it to my gym. I just talked to the gym manager a couple of weeks ago. He said. Where would we put it? That's the problem. And I said, well, if I buy one and donate to the gym, I'm sure you can find a place to put it. Right?

[00:06:33] Coach Rob Regish: [00:06:33] Yeah. Wow, man, that wouldn't be a fantastic gesture on your part.

[00:06:39] Um,

[00:06:39] Carl Lanore: [00:06:39] well, I, I need access to one and I can't put one in my home. I don't have the room for it in my home. Otherwise, I would.

[00:06:45] Coach Rob Regish: [00:06:45] Right. Right. So, uh, let me get to, um, the claim strength gains. I've heard this more than once. You know, if you work your reverse hypers really hard, you can put a hundred pounds on your squat or deadlift.

[00:06:59] I'll be honest, [00:07:00] I, I never saw anybody do it. I've never even heard of anybody doing it that they might be out there. I don't know. Um, what I do know is it is an incredibly efficient, uh, and. Innovative way to work that posterior chain in. It's unlike any other movement in the gym because of that. Partially because of that, believe it or not, people won't use it.

[00:07:29] The reverse hypers that I've seen in gems, usually late the dormant for two reasons. Number one, people don't understand. What it works, how to use it, etc. But number two, and I suspect this is the bigger part, one part of the reason, it's a lot to load and unload. Okay. Um, there is a pendulum arm that swings underneath that, uh, your feet are attached to you.

[00:07:57] Either via a roller [00:08:00] attachment or a strap. A simple strap I think works best. Um, but yes, sad. I mean, we've got this beautiful reverse hyper and most people don't use it. And so, you know, my challenge to you would be, I would tell you absolutely use it, use it in the fashion that I just described. Um, and I am confident that it will add to your squat or deadlift.

[00:08:26] I can't tell you how many pounds. I don't think it's going to be a hundred, but yes, it will. And it'll keep your back healthy. It was one of the very few movements that you can perform almost every day and not have it over-training because there is no ecentric motion unless you are really slowing it down.

[00:08:48] So it's an incredible tool of both strengthening wise, rehab wise. The movement is great. I'm taking advantage

[00:08:55] Carl Lanore: [00:08:55] of it. The next question comes from Matt McCain. He says, I found your [00:09:00] update on rhabdo last week. Interesting. It seems things are back to normal, but I don't recall you saying what your creatinine or creatine kinase numbers are now.

[00:09:12] Uh, can you elaborate because I'm across for that athlete and increasingly concerned about rhabdo they have us doing a lot more than just a month ago, pushing ever increasing training volumes. What can I do to make sure it doesn't happen to me? Stay hydrated. Baking soda, baking soda, baking soda,

[00:09:34] Coach Rob Regish: [00:09:34] or stopped CrossFit.

[00:09:36] Uh. Well look. Um, a couple of questions there, the last one of which I think is probably the most important. Um, so I'll only touch briefly on my situation and then we'll get to the rest of it. After getting full lab panel works done, complete blood count, the whole nine yards. Uh, I forwarded that blood work in turn to my kidney specialist and my primary care doctor, [00:10:00] the kidney specialist, only comment was, Hey, I don't see creatine kinase here.

[00:10:05] And that's true. It was the only thing that I can think of that wasn't tested. Uh, but he more or less let it up to me as to what to do and seeing as I had an appointment with my PC coming up, I elected to see him in step and to my great surprise when I went to see him, we discussed creatine kinase and I went to roll my sleeve up cause he always takes blood.

[00:10:32] He didn't do it this time. He didn't do it. And I can't, I have a few suspicions as to why he has him. But here's the thing. Ever since I presented those two studies to him, the sky is falling. Reaction to CK levels. I might be a little high, but everything else is showing it's fine. You know, it's been changed dramatically.

[00:11:00] [00:10:59] So, um. That is the situation with me now onto your situation with CrossFit, I think you need to be cautious. I don't think you necessarily need to be, you know, terrified of this, but you need to be cautious and only concerned if several warning signs present, present themselves in some of this stuff is common sense, but others is stuff that I've learned by having to deal with it.

[00:11:27] Um, first. Never ever, ever jump into something brand new. The single biggest trigger for rhabdo in the studies that I read, uh, was an unfamiliarity with the exercise activity or loading, uh, that the person performed. So it could have been someone who's been out for two months and they tried to pick up where they left off.

[00:11:53] Or it could be someone that's performing, you know, a low volume. Strength training program right now, and he [00:12:00] jumps into a German volume training 10 sets of 10, you know, that's, you gotta be careful about that, especially right as you age. Um, I would also tell you. Based on that research that I read, upper body workouts trigger more rhabdo episodes and the lower body ones.

[00:12:21] And they further stated that people that use short rest intervals between their sets triggered more rhabdo ups, so it's them longer ones. Long story short, I think it has a lot to do with just. Making sure you don't try to go from one extreme to the other too fast. And I've been guilty of that certainly in the past, and I paid the price for it.

[00:12:44] So some common sense recommendations for you? Um, I would suggest one day off for every day that you've trained. Minimal. Okay. So a one-to-one rest to work ratio. Uh, and [00:13:00] then a minimum of one week off every eight weeks or so. If you're under 40 and a week off every four to six weeks, if you're over 40, there are a couple of supplements.

[00:13:11] Interestingly enough, that I came across in my research and it showed on my lab work can help. And when I say help, I mean it cuts down muscle damage as evidenced by lower. C K numbers. Tribulus is the top. Is that the top of that list, by the way? Interestingly enough, back to the Sarah and follows and then the third one was ursolic acid.

[00:13:38] I've had, I, I've really pushed things I would say in the last three weeks, and I haven't had any episodes. A big part of that time I was using both trim and ft. Okay. Yes. I was resting a little bit more, but still, you know, I mean, I, I, I pushed it. [00:14:00] Um, also maintaining high cellular antioxidant levels is extremely important.

[00:14:08] So when the research, they talked about the muscle cell membrane permeability being something less than ideal. If you don't have a lot of antioxidants, you know, floating around, that means things like NaCl, assisting, uh, alpha lipoic acid, vitamin C and E, uh, resveratrol, curcumin, and green tea among others.

[00:14:30] Okay. I, I think those things should be used on a regular basis given the research on. I would interacts with workouts. I would suggest taking it as far away from a workout during that days possible, but still gets your antioxidants. Blood work is best to know where you are, but lacking that, they make urinary testing strips for many different things.

[00:14:56] It's a multitask urinary testing strip that I use, [00:15:00] and amongst other measures, it shows protein in the urine. And or, or blood in the era, there really shouldn't be much protein there and there definitely shouldn't be blood in your urine. It's good to have the sticks because although my episode was, you know, it was bright red, my urine was bright red, not, you know, that's tough to miss.

[00:15:24] Right. Um, I'm also told by the doctors that there can be microscopic levels. Of blood in your urine, that visually you can't pick up the test. Well, those two things might keep you from hitting the red zone and having an episode with rhabdo. Um, other warning sciences I've discussed before, a darker color, you know, dark, dark yellow or Cola colored urine, extreme mental confusion, um, disorientation, that sort of thing.

[00:16:00] [00:16:00] So. If you can get the blood work done, if you can't use the testing strips, exercise some common sense and uh, take all the reasonable precautions that you can rhabdo is, is I'm learning for all its seriousness and it can kill you if you don't get immediate medical attention or you can lose your kidneys or whatever.

[00:16:24] Obviously the point is, it's bad. But here's, here's another even more relevant point. It's completely preventable, right? This is something that didn't happen to me. This is something that I did to myself and for all of you training with weights and burned with it, it's something that you need to make sure you don't do with yourself

[00:16:47] Carl Lanore: [00:16:47] and please.

[00:16:49] Supplement with baking soda, the thing that they use to rescue you when you're in the hospital with rhabdo, the thing they use to rescue you from the jaws of death [00:17:00] is intravenous, uh, of, uh, of, uh, of, of sodium bicarbonate. And so if they can rescue you from the jaws of rhabdo death by giving you sodium bicarbonate, doesn't it make sense that all those out there who are training in a CrossFit style to bought a style, one of these high volume, high weight training styles, is it makes sense that you just supplement with some baking soda three or four times a day.

[00:17:29] That's not that hard.

[00:17:31] Coach Rob Regish: [00:17:31] Yeah. And interestingly enough, when my PC sent me to my kidney doctor said, why are you sending me to a kidney guy? He said, he can prescribe me your, the baking soda pills

[00:17:40] Carl Lanore: [00:17:40] he can prescribe. He could prescribe you baking soda pills, of which you could go to your local grocery store, buy a whole frigging box of it for a dollar 79  600 milligram.

[00:17:52] Baking soda tablets that they give you and they either tell you to take one, two, or three at a time, 600 milligrams of baking [00:18:00] soda pressed into a tablet so that your insurance company can gouge you and pay for them. Or you go to the grocery store and you take an eighth of a teaspoon three or four times a day and you're safe.

[00:18:13] Coach Rob Regish: [00:18:13] Yeah. He never, he never prescribed him, but I asked him the question, I said, how is this different than the arm and hammer baking? Sort of a similar refrigerator. He just looked at me and he said, it isn't

[00:18:25] Carl Lanore: [00:18:25] Marco Pula says something interesting here. He said, he's talking about vitamin CNE on a regular basis, rather, contrary, according to the research.

[00:18:33] So I got to talk about that for a second. Um, the research that shows that taking antioxidants before working out, uh, is that it affects the, uh, the preferred changes in the mitochondria. Uh, that create mitochondrial adaptation from exercise have mostly been done in endurance athletes. They have never been done in strength athletes.

[00:18:59] To my [00:19:00] knowledge, where guys are lifting heavy weight and taking vitamin C, number one. Number two, whether he uses drugs or not, Michael Hearne has been taking 10 grams of vitamin C a day for close to 25 years. And the guy is, is in superior conditioning. He can squat. Um, three 15 or four, Oh five he does for his birthday squats.

[00:19:28] I think it's three 15. Does it feel like 40 reps, 40 something reps? He's 47 I think, and he did it for 47 reps on his birthday. So as far as cardio is cardiovascular conditioning, a mitochondrial adaptation, his ability to put on muscle, it seems not to be affecting him. Now. Maybe he's a one an N equals one guy.

[00:19:50] Maybe everybody else would take 10 grams of vitamin C would see something different. But he learned that from Jack Lalaine. Yeah. Back in the day, all of them, Arnold, [00:20:00] all of them, they will all taking mega doses of vitamin C. no one talks about it because it wasn't a big deal. It was just vitamin C. it wasn't Debo, but all, uh, you know, uh, antioxidants have been used until recently in individuals who appeared to be able to improve their physical performance, their endurance, and their muscular strength.

[00:20:23] Contrary. Then a study comes out and everybody goes, Oh, well, wait a minute. We have, we have like four decades of evidence that it doesn't hurt you when you're an athlete to take vitamin C or a for that matter.

[00:20:34] Coach Rob Regish: [00:20:34] Yeah, and I want to say there's at least one study showing much lower cortisol levels for those taking massive quantities of vitamin C.

[00:20:42] Carl Lanore: [00:20:42] well, but see the pro, the problem with all of this discussion is it's a, it's in a event. Oh, lower cortisol levels. It would be good for someone. Who has high cortisol levels, lower cortisol levels. If somebody who has normal cortisol levels not so good, now you're going to create low cortisol. Wake up in the morning, you feel groggy.

[00:20:59] So [00:21:00] again, again, just look at the multitude of people who have been taking high doses of vitamin C for so long. And we, uh, we have, uh, we have a, an informal study out there. If we could just got everybody together and said, what did you notice? Oh, I continued to run faster, you know, uh, jump higher, lift more weight.

[00:21:20] It didn't hurt me. But a study comes out and says, Oh, mitochondrial adaptation is impaired in the face of pre-workout antioxidants, especially, especially when you consider this fact. We could all agree to glutathione is the most powerful antioxidant. The body knows, right? It's manufactured while you exercise, so apply some critical thinking here so you don't take any vitamin C, you don't take any vitamin a, you don't take any antioxidants, but the strongest antioxidant your body knows makes it while you exercise.

[00:21:55] Coach Rob Regish: [00:21:55] Interesting. Real interesting. [00:22:00] It's not preventing training adaptations there?

[00:22:02] Carl Lanore: [00:22:02] No. In fact, the body thinks it's part of the adaptive process. We're going to take a quick commercial break.

[00:22:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:22:09] Cool.

[00:22:10] Carl Lanore: [00:22:10] I have to, I have to get some water in me. My throat is dry. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with one.

[00:22:16] Coach Rob Regish: [00:22:16] You are listening to the superhuman channel.

[00:22:18] Carl Lanore: [00:22:18] We're ripped and we're ready.

[00:22:26] Welcome back to the blueprint power hour brought to you by coach Rob ruggish.com if you go there today, you'll be stronger tomorrow. You'll be the smartest kid in your gym. Everyone will watch your advice and little will they know that you get it all from cold Traub, ruggish.com so the next question comes from, uh, Marty Keegan, I believe.

[00:22:51] Let's see that I do this right. I enjoyed you to the discussion about Dan Dushane. Is there a steroid guru today? And if so, who, what's the best place to get [00:23:00] information on steroids? And what basics do you think someone should know.

[00:23:05] Coach Rob Regish: [00:23:05] Okay. A lot of questions there. Um, and I'll freely admit, and I'm not the steroid expert so to speak, but to my knowledge, there is no one steroid guru, uh, that's out there today, at least in the way that Dan induced Jane was, right.

[00:23:22] He was a unique personality. He had a unique mind, and like a Vince Geronda. Was to training. He was way ahead of his time with how things were with the drug scene. Uh, I would tell you though that as a reference for reference materials, uh, William Lewellen's books on antibiotics are probably the best written and most thoroughly researched that I seen.

[00:23:49] There are others. There may be others that I'm not aware of, but, um, as a solid reference point, I think it's fair to say his books are good, real good starting [00:24:00] place. Um, he has also apparently come up with some unique home tests, home testing kits, see if the gear that you bought is what you thought it was.

[00:24:11] Right. And that is money well spent in my opinion. It's really invaluable. Um, if you're playing that game. So I would look into that. Otherwise, there is a plethora of information out there today on the web, uh, about steroids, and it's only getting bigger every single day. That doesn't mean it's all necessarily accurate.

[00:24:37] There's some really crap stuff out there. Um, but there's a large knowledge base. It's fair to say that understand though. That the drugs are little changed, uh, from Duchenne's day. Right. It's still the ball test, DECA trend, you know, all of those drugs still [00:25:00] pretty much dominate. At least the steroids scene in some corners of the web.

[00:25:05] On the black market, uh, at least in the United States, you'll see methyl one test or super draw. Uh, but by and large, the drugs are the same. Uh, w when Dushane wrote his original underground steroid handbook, I think in 1991. So, um, that brings up the question about what should, what should somebody know about this topic?

[00:25:29] I will tell you the first thing is. You need to understand. Nobody only does just one cycle. I have never seen a single person that tried steroids once and stopped. And look, the reason, the reasons obvious, right? What's he been on? The drugs. Assuming you have good stuff and you know what you're doing and you're sprouting muscles and places where you didn't even have places before.

[00:25:59] Who wants to go [00:26:00] back to being mr natural? Nobody. So, you know, the truth is, once you're in the game, you're going to be in the game probably for a long time. Um, I would also tell you. That blood work is absolutely essential, at least annually, and preferably a little more frequently. Now, I don't think you need to get it every month or even every quarter, but once or twice a year is really important.

[00:26:26] I'm going to tell you why. Um, bloodwork can spot things like an elevated hematocrit level. Um, that's, that starts creeping up and that's prevalent in athletes 40 and over. Uh, that takes testosterone and other red blood cell building almost. All right? It leads to a condition known as Polycythaemia with basically too many red blood cells to blood gets too thick and it puts you at increased risk for heart attack, heart attack, and stroke.

[00:27:00] [00:27:00] Um, my tongue is swollen today. For some reason, I must have a food allergy. There's an easy fix to that though, right? It's called giving blood. And it's not a big issue. You know, you usually go to the blood bank and donate your pint and then you're on your way. Um, however, I have encountered places that won't take it because of the amount of crib being too high, the, and being too high in that event.

[00:27:30] If you have a doctor and you should, um, you can get a. Um, what's, what's called a therapeutic phlebotomy, same deal. They'll take it out of here. They just throw the blood away and they don't use it. So, um, blood work can also catch things like, let's say, an elevated homocysteine level. Uh, and that's an easy fix to, you know, for folic acid.

[00:27:55] Uh, it reman better TMG trimethylglycine can bring [00:28:00] that down like right quick. Um, and. I just have this done and I noticed it was really interesting. Uh, it can catch, you know, like a PSA, prostate specific antigen test. Right? They want the number to be under four. Well. You know, you need to know where you are.

[00:28:20] And if you go from let's say 0.5 to a 1.5 and in a year or less time, even though that's still under four, that's kinda cause for concern. You know, if I saw my PSA trip triple in a year or less time, I would want that looked at a little bit closer. The point I'm trying to make is you would not be aware of any of this.

[00:28:44] If you weren't having blood work done. Um, and finding a physician that will agree, finding a physician that knows you're on super supplements and we'll work with you to try to keep you healthy, okay. No [00:29:00] doctor is going to turn you in to authorities, all right. There they're there to try to optimize your health, okay.

[00:29:08] Or at least get you to be what they consider healthy. Find one, even a simple office visit can catch, uh, the silent killer, right? Elevated blood pressure. That's probably the number one thing I would say people, especially young guys that are looking, looking to, you know, book up and put as much muscle on as possible.

[00:29:31] That should probably be the number one thing you're concerned about. Because let's think about this. Uh, you're eating massive quantities of food. Probably enough for two or three people. You're putting on weight. You're using steroids, which increase water retention, like test and deep ball and, and, uh, a bombs.

[00:29:53] Certainly a bombs. Okay. There's more weight. And finally, [00:30:00] when you go to the gym. Who's not using a pre-workout, and so we know what the stimulants do and pre-workouts. Do your blood pressure, add that on top of the other things that I just mentioned, and you're probably not doing enough cardio and you have a, you know, a time bomb that's just ticking.

[00:30:17] Ready to go off.

[00:30:18] Carl Lanore: [00:30:18] Well, I want to, I want to throw something else in here about caffeine, just real quick.

[00:30:22] Coach Rob Regish: [00:30:22] Yeah, sure.

[00:30:22] Carl Lanore: [00:30:22] Study was just published on women. Now, does the same thing happen in men? One could say probably. But women who consume more than 300 milligrams of caffeine a day, or from 300 or more milligrams of caffeine a day have impaired vitamin D receptor affinity that is linked to osteoporosis.

[00:30:50] Even one 25 hydroxy levels are observed.

[00:30:55] Coach Rob Regish: [00:30:55] Interesting.

[00:30:55] Carl Lanore: [00:30:55] So, you know, what are we doing with this caffeine man? I [00:31:00] mean, when we really look at what caffeine is doing to the population.

[00:31:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:31:03] Right?

[00:31:04] Carl Lanore: [00:31:04] Nevermind distress. If it's impairing vitamin D's effectiveness and everybody's getting their 25 hydroxy tested and they go, Oh, my 25 hydroxy is 80 but the vitamin D can't do anything if, if the receptors are impaired.

[00:31:19] Coach Rob Regish: [00:31:19] Right. And you, you can tell by the research that it's a juvenile a lot more than preventing us, you hope for OSIS, you know, we're talking what, hundreds, thousands of things. Unbelievable. Yeah. It's crazy. Um, so thank you for that point on caffeine. Um, I'm, uh, writing about an alternatives. In fact, in my monthly newsletters now anyway, back to, um, blood pressure, never start a bulking cycle without first beefing up your cardiovascular work.

[00:31:51] Okay. It just makes sense. If you want your body to carry around 20 more pounds of muscle, you need to have the heart and lungs to do that. [00:32:00] Okay. If you need a prescription to control blood pressure, take one. Okay. I know I was one such person. I was completely against any pharmaceutical drugs, and I'm not saying it needs to be for long term, but if you need something to control it, then so be it.

[00:32:20] Okay. It sure beats living with high blood pressure and plenty of people that just live with it, just die with it. It's sad, but true. The final thing that I would do, and this is just main and maybe in some paranoia, but, uh, when you're dealing with the black market, you need to take precautions. One of those precautions is to know what to do if everything goes South.

[00:32:47] And he, I can sum it up in two words. Rick Collins, Rick Collins is. Uh, an attorney that I believe all he does is steroid cases. [00:33:00] Okay. And, and helping people, he's headquartered in New York, but he of course, can refer you to competent legal counsel in the event you have a little run in with the law. And speaking of which, if you ever do, do not ever speak with the police.

[00:33:21] Allow them to search your car or home or answer any questions. Okay. If it comes to that, because these are scheduled three drugs and in whiskey, they're in the same categories. What methamphetamine they carrying mandatory. Time. In some cases, if you're found guilty, and those cases are a lot more prevalent than they used to be because they change the laws and the way they count steroid units.

[00:33:53] Rick has worked wonders for some people who get into a bind. Okay. I've seen [00:34:00] situations that look like the guys going away for a long time, and Rick gets him off because he knows the game, but he can't help you. If you're singing like a Canary, you've already given police permission to search your car home and then they find the drugs and you wind up confessing every transgression back to those M&Ms you stole from a convenience store when you were five years old at that point, he can't help you.

[00:34:27] Nobody can. You've, you've hung yourself. So there's one rule. If things go South and it's this silence is golden, the only words that are coming out of your mouth should be, I want my lawyer. Okay. The police have a job to do, and you do too. It's called being silent. It's fair to say though. That being in the game is a lot safer today than it was 10 to 15 years ago.

[00:34:58] 10 to 15 years ago, president [00:35:00] Bush mentioned steroids in his state of the union's speech in the same breath of Al Qaeda and terrorism. He mentioned steroids accordingly. Law enforcement. Tuned up the band and all that, and you've got all kinds of new funding from the government to make examples out of people that were using steroids.

[00:35:22] Okay. Now that time period seems to be over. That doesn't mean that bus don't ha still don't happen. They do. What it does mean is that the amount of federal resources that are devoted to the steroid problem, uh, is not what it once was. That's all. But as I like to say, a lot of people like to say, and I think it's good advice for life, better safe than sorry.

[00:35:49] That's what I think you need to know about an anabolic steroids. Yeah, you just

[00:35:56] Carl Lanore: [00:35:56] need testosterone anyway.

[00:36:00] [00:36:00] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:00] Your body knows what to do with

[00:36:01] Carl Lanore: [00:36:01] it day. That's all you need. Kevin Waterman says, interesting question. You posed during last week blueprint. Tip of the day. I honestly couldn't answer it. But I see plenty of programs out there designed to get you stronger.

[00:36:12] What's wrong with them? Why can't I just find one that works and just keep using it?

[00:36:18] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:18] Yeah. So if you didn't hear last week, um, the question that Kevin's referencing is this, and it's something I think everyone should ask themselves, where is the next 25 pounds going to come from on your deadlift? Okay.

[00:36:33] Truthfully, most people can't answer that question. Right? So at least he was honest. But then he says, there are plenty of programs online that he can use. You know what's wrong with them? Uh, and then he asked the question, why can't he just keep using that program? Well, those are all fair questions. So let me take them one by one first.

[00:36:56] All too often, almost always, [00:37:00] the program does not tell you what to do after you've peaked and you've got your new one rep max. I seen this time and time again, and I have been guilty of it too. Okay. An athlete works their tail off for eight, 10, 12 weeks. I've XYZ program, uh, you know, and in the pools in additional 20, 25 pounds on his dead lift squat or bench press.

[00:37:28] And then because he doesn't know what to do next, he loses. The peak and you will lose that peak strength in a matter of weeks, if not sooner. It by very by their very nature. These are peaking programs, right? In blueprint basics, which is one of the membership things on my website. We cover not one, but six such programs.

[00:37:53] I call them loading patterns. And here's the key that are all designed to be used together in a [00:38:00] fashion where they build. On one another. So for example, um, we loo, we use a couple loading patterns from Germany that were custom made by the Germans to be used together. That's why they're called GLP one and two.

[00:38:16] We then use one from another one from Russia, and we position it there. Because you've been training now for many weeks in the 90th percentile. And the Russian program that we use has you using no more than 80% of your one rep max for the first three to four weeks of that program. Okay. And that's incredibly important.

[00:38:40] If you've peaked your body not once, but twice, and without that break, you're going to find out probably the hard way those loading patterns fall apart. Okay. I'm even debuting a new one that I found, um, that's coming out in the January bulletin. It delivers an increase of 11% [00:39:00] to your one rep max in 12 workouts.

[00:39:03] And here's the, here's the punchline. It does it using only two work sets. That's pretty incredible. In addition to all that, we understand how often to take breaks and how long. Between these loading patterns. I know how long someone will hold their peak after GLP. One, two, the Russian program, the 10% solution, the 11% solution.

[00:39:31] Okay. And you, what happens is the strength gains. Pylon and it, it's, it's like a big Boulder going down Hill. They, you build all kinds of incredible momentum and put tremendous amounts, um, on your one rep max. And that builds a lot of muscles. So let me get to the point though, where, Hey, if, you know, if you think you've found a good one and it works really well, why can't you just keep using it?

[00:39:59] Well, if you [00:40:00] tried to do that, you will find that the next time you try and run it. You're not going to get the increases that you wear. You're going to get three, four workouts in and it's going to fall apart. You're going to start missing reps, you're going to start missing weight, you're going to start missing both badly.

[00:40:16] And that's simply because the body is an adaptive mechanism. It has seen the loading pattern or the program once, um, and it will not respond to it. You really need a good. Eight to 12 weeks away from that particular loading so that the body responds to it again. Okay. Uh, you know, from there, I would just tell you, I would tell you this, when you get it right, when you have a half a dozen at your disposal that you're using in your, let's say you pick your deadlifts to do that, it is not an uncommon occurrence [00:41:00] whatsoever.

[00:41:00] That my guys put over a hundred pounds on a big barbell lift like that in a year, and some do it a lot sooner. Okay. You can only imagine what, how much muscle, uh, extra muscle you're going to have dead lifting, you know, 400 for 10 reps and eight months earlier you were lifting 300 for 10 reps. It's staggering.

[00:41:27] Okay. So blueprint basics gives you that for five bucks a month. I don't. You absolutely can't go wrong because once you have them, once you have those loading patterns, you have the keys to the kingdom. You really honestly do. And it's just a matter of performing in the workouts. There's no guesswork. It tells you exactly how much weight to use for how many sets and how many reps.

[00:41:54] No guesswork whatsoever. As long as you stay healthy, you will get [00:42:00] absurdly strong usually.

[00:42:03] Carl Lanore: [00:42:03] Well, we have, we have Gordon Kelly listening to us all the way from across the pond. How are you doing, Gordon?

[00:42:09] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:09] Gordon

[00:42:10] Carl Lanore: [00:42:10] Gordon's a good dude. Anyway, um, you know, the funny thing that I, I notice about people in their training patterns in general.

[00:42:22] It is, and we've talked about this before, and the lack of

[00:42:25] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:25] consistency

[00:42:26] Carl Lanore: [00:42:26] of giving anything, a chance to work more than anything else. I mean that, that's the most common thing that I say.

[00:42:33] Coach Rob Regish: [00:42:33] Yeah. And in this case it, you know, it's far from everything that you're doing. You, you do two work sets and then you do whatever the hell else you want to do.

[00:42:43] I mean, if you don't particularly like being told what to do, this is to, to work sets. Once you're done, you're done, then fine, go do whatever you want. And then give me the sh, you know, give it a fair shake though. Give it at least four weeks. If it takes six weeks or eight weeks to, you know, [00:43:00] to run it out and complete the program, then do it.

[00:43:03] Carl Lanore: [00:43:03] I did, I did. I did the five by five method early at one when I was first starting to train for strength. I did the five by five method for two years straight.

[00:43:14] Coach Rob Regish: [00:43:14] Yeah, you can find we use five by five. Um, not in the, in the hyper gaining part of the program, but I am always said, if anyone listening is confused about what to do training wise to five by five, you can't go wrong.

[00:43:30] You literally can't

[00:43:30] Carl Lanore: [00:43:30] know. And I wish we had camera phones back then because I mean, I took, I took a single four Oh five. So, so one of the things that I love to do

[00:43:41] Coach Rob Regish: [00:43:41] that

[00:43:41] Carl Lanore: [00:43:41] I will do again.

[00:43:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:43:44] Trying

[00:43:44] Carl Lanore: [00:43:44] to build to trying to build strength is, is taking a weight of about 80% of your one rep max and doing one rep with it and then watching the clock and [00:44:00] waiting, let's say two minutes,

[00:44:04] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:04] right?

[00:44:04] Carl Lanore: [00:44:04] And this T this is, you go into train, just this movement. This is, this is the whole time you're at the gym. You do one rep and let's say you'd say two medics, you w you rest for two minutes. You grabbed the bargain, you'd do one rep and this in the beginning, this is easy stuff, but you're going to do 15 reps as long as it takes.

[00:44:24] If you have to bump up your rest in between, as you go deeper into this, you do so and you do that two weeks in a row and then on week three you cut 15 seconds off of your rest time.

[00:44:38] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:38] Wow,

[00:44:39] Carl Lanore: [00:44:39] whatever it is. And you do that two weeks in a row and then week five you cut 15 seconds more off your rest time, and you continue to do this for six months until you're doing 15 reps with that weight.

[00:44:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:56] Oh,

[00:45:00] [00:45:00] I can't say that I remember her, that,

[00:45:02] Carl Lanore: [00:45:02] that, that made me the strongest in my dead lift ever. Yeah, I mean, so I, you know, the funny thing is like I see YouTube videos and I see Instagram videos of guys pull in 500 pounds for a few reps and I got to the point where I was doing 10 reps with 500 pounds because of this method of progression.

[00:45:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:23] But it took, it took the patience of six months, right?

[00:45:27] Carl Lanore: [00:45:27] Yes. And it, and some, some people will get there and for some we'll get to it, but the bottom line is you don't stop using this protocol until you're doing the targeted number of reps with that weight. And trust me. If you can take 80% of your one rep max, and over the course of six months, do 15 reps with it continuously without resting.

[00:45:53] Your one rep max just went up big time.

[00:45:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:56] Oh yeah.

[00:46:00] [00:45:59] Carl Lanore: [00:45:59] And I did that patiently fro, I did it for six months and blew it. It was the cause. What happened was I got stuck in my dead lift. The the most I was able to pull for a while was do like a triple with four Oh five and then that wasn't, that wasn't chump change?

[00:46:17] Coach Rob Regish: [00:46:17] No, not at all.

[00:46:17] Carl Lanore: [00:46:17] But I just started doing, I just started doing singles with three 85 and I just took law. I took, I, I just slowly whittled down the rest period. The concept is. Eventually you're not resting. You get to the point where you're resting 15 seconds in between in between sets and now, now all of a sudden it's like, okay, I'm just going to do this now I'm just going to rip out with this.

[00:46:45] And if you do that, if you do this, you take take one day a week just to do this. If your weak spot is your bench press, you use the same approach with the bench press. If your weak spot as your squat, use the same approach with your squat, but you give yourself six months to take [00:47:00] this lift. And blow it up and it will blow up.

[00:47:04] You will do it. You will.

[00:47:07] Coach Rob Regish: [00:47:07] That's very interesting. Do you remember where you go?

[00:47:11] Carl Lanore: [00:47:11] I can't say I got it from anybody. I can't, I, I just want to say Gordon Kelly. I'll look on my, uh, Facebook page during the commercial break. I will, um, I can't say it just, it just became, because I was doing five by five.

[00:47:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:47:27] Yup.

[00:47:27] Carl Lanore: [00:47:27] You know, five reps, five sets.

[00:47:30] And I just got to the point where I thought to myself, I just want to start doing singles for awhile. And I instinctively started doing singles with two minutes of rest in between. And then I thought to myself, cause I became impatient. Well, what if I don't wait two minutes? You know what if I, and then, then it dawned on me, I know what I'll do.

[00:47:53] I'm going to just. Whittled down the rest period over the course of months until I'm literally doing 15 reps with this weight.

[00:48:01] [00:48:00] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:01] Great. We'll call it the Lenore method.

[00:48:03] Carl Lanore: [00:48:03] I don't know that that's fair because there's obviously somebody out there who's probably thought of it before me. I'm not, I'm not that unique of a thinker.

[00:48:09] When faced with these challenges, we all kind of think in the same line, but it works with any move you want to, if you want to build a move, a movement up that you seem to be stuck in. Try this. Doing and just do 10 just do 10 singles and and give you two minutes in between and then do that for two weeks and all week three cut 15 seconds off your rest time and do that for two weeks and the following week.

[00:48:36] Cut 15 seconds off your rest time and do that for two weeks and just keep doing that until now. You may hit a point where it's like, Oh my God, I can't, I can't. So then stay at that weight. If you're stuck at one minute of rest with 80% of your one rep max, stay with that. Just stay with that for awhile until you feel strong enough to cut 15 seconds off, but just make, just make that your [00:49:00] compression, that compressing the rest time is your progression.

[00:49:03] That's it. That's it.

[00:49:05] Coach Rob Regish: [00:49:05] I'm glad you brought that up. That's a unique. I haven't heard of it before.

[00:49:10] Carl Lanore: [00:49:10] Kevin Sullivan says, I know you've discussed nootropics before, but what are some of the better ones? I'm just looking for energy to study, focus and concentration. Anything else that carries over into the gym is just bonus.

[00:49:23] I mean, my first thing is a, is a draft. Know.

[00:49:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:49:27] If you're looking at, for purposes of answering the question with one word, I would tell you Modafinil is no new tropics, so to

[00:49:37] Carl Lanore: [00:49:37] speak. Yeah. I mean, if you want mental energy, because pilots use it to stay awake when they're flying. If you want pure mental energy, you don't want, you don't want a.

[00:49:47] Something that's going to raise your heart rate and, and Jack up your blood sugar and all the other stuff, which caffeine does, by the way. Uh, I would just go with Modafinil or .

[00:49:57] Coach Rob Regish: [00:49:57] Yeah, absolutely. So, um, [00:50:00] the only wrinkle there is Modafinil schedule for, uh, which means, you know, importing it into the U S there's a slight rescue.

[00:50:09] We'll get a form letter. It's nothing I think they're going to pursue you on. Um, however. Now that I think about it. There's one other thing readily available over the counter everywhere. You wouldn't want to use it all the time, but, um, nicotine gum, nicotine gum will certainly rev up. Um, your thought process.

[00:50:32] It'll rev up your heart rate a little bit, a little bit, your body, especially if you're not used to it. And I would suspect it would be useful in these situations, but you have to really be careful about the dose. You know, I'd started out with two milligrams. Don't go above four. I don't think they make gum with more than four milligrams.

[00:50:52] Um, but experiment with it, you know, do not, she would all the time. That's, that's a problem. [00:51:00] Now, um, most of the time when people ask about nootropics, right? That you can talk about fetal paracetam, acetylcarnitine, tyricine, um, and all these other racy thems that seem to dominate.

[00:51:14] Carl Lanore: [00:51:14] Yeah, and I, and I've never gotten anything from any of the race teams.

[00:51:18] Nothing, nothing that I can, nothing that I could say I got, I got a lot from Dai Hexa rubbing it on my neck, but that has to be prescribed.

[00:51:27] Coach Rob Regish: [00:51:27] Yeah. I would say is a one stop, one or two stop solution, you know, a co maybe. Oh, coffee, a couple hundred milligrams of Modafinil. It's going to help her form.

[00:51:37] Carl Lanore: [00:51:37] I think that would rock your cause that, you know, don't forget, this is exactly, the other thing obviously is a.

[00:51:43] Is ADHD drugs like Ritalin, obviously, but that comes with some risks because you end up with a buildup. If you Reik acid, uh, you could actually kind of burn yourself out on them if you're not careful. And then the other thing you gotta remember is, uh, there was a study [00:52:00] done that shows that if you use these types of agents to improve your capacity to study, you must take them during testing.

[00:52:12] In order for it to carry over. Yeah.

[00:52:15] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:15] Yeah. It's, it's an interesting field. Um, and like we said, both you and I agree. Modafinil is probably the best that's going to get my dog and Skokie keep her quiet. Um, it's probably best in outperforms everything else. Uh, now, interestingly enough, last month I secured. A domestic supplier, Modafinil, so there's no customs involved.

[00:52:41] Um, if you're not a subscriber though, to the newsletter, I would tell you the next best option is probably the pro drug to Modafinil, which is addressing them right, is readily sold right over the counter as a nutritional supplement. It [00:53:00] takes longer to kick in. It takes about 45 minutes. Um, but you can feel it if you use enough.

[00:53:07] It's weaker than Modafinil. Um, but it's still miles better, I think, than RACI thems and like things. Uh, now you should, you should know one of the thing about it though, uh, it is, or can be. Liver toxic, more, much more so than Modafinil. I'm not sure why. I'm sure it goes back to the chemical structure. Um, so if you want to be safe, you can try taking it with a MH.

[00:53:36] It'll cystine uh, Tuka alpha lipoic acid, things like that. Uh, I don't think, you know, if you're using it. Like you should be every so often. It's not going to be an issue. Now, if you still want to mess around with nootropics and you don't like any of those options, uh, I would tell you [00:54:00] that the best ones that I've used are alpha GPC.

[00:54:06] Uh, fenal, paracetam, D, M, a, E, which is way underrated as a source of cooling. In my opinion.

[00:54:16] Carl Lanore: [00:54:16] Ah, but wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yup. Research researchers just provided that Adele moose, who wrote about shows that the only effective Coleen source is egg yolks, that it beats everything else. And that's some of the supplemented Coleen type products don't eat, they don't even compare 10% of what the Coleen and egg yolks

[00:54:36] Coach Rob Regish: [00:54:36] still.

[00:54:38] Uh, well, it's interesting. 

[00:54:40] Carl Lanore: [00:54:40] he wrote two good blogs just recently back to back within the past month, showing that, uh, if you want Coleen, you gotta go with eggs.

[00:54:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:54:51] Yeah. I usually, today I get it in luck in granuals but, um, I guess I'll have to take a look at that research. [00:55:00] Yeah, one of the thing that people have, and I know you use the car and like it, lion's mane mushroom.

[00:55:05] Yeah. It works. It works. And, and it's one of those things that you wouldn't think works, but look, we all know mushrooms have effects in people. Some, uh, some are rather dramatic, you know, can take you places where you've never been before. It just illustrates the power of the mushroom. Uh, lion's mane is something I would opt for if you're not going to go for Modafinil or draft.

[00:55:33] Yeah.

[00:55:34] Carl Lanore: [00:55:34] And people think that mushrooms can't do it, but they can make you hallucinate. They absolutely have an effect on the brain.

[00:55:40] Coach Rob Regish: [00:55:40] Absolutely.

[00:55:41] Carl Lanore: [00:55:41] I'm going to go ahead and take a break real quick. Uh, and when we come back, we have another question from Doug McGill and then we have the blueprint tip of the day.

[00:55:49] So stay with us. We'll be right back.

[00:56:03] [00:56:00] so the next question comes from Doug McGill. He says, uh. Like you, I've got arthritis in both my knees. It's absolutely killing me. My doctor gave me this same song and dance. Yours did. There's nothing they can do or is there? No, there is nothing your doctor could do because your doctor doesn't keep up with all of the things that can be done for arthritic knees.

[00:56:27] And really Rob is going to list, I'm sure, some fantastic things you can do. But nothing, nothing works better than growth hormone. Nothing. In fact, there was a, it was a doctor named Dr. Allen Dunn, who I think he might've passed away. Uh, he was on my show probably five or six years ago. Uh, and he was training orthopedic surgeons to do intro articular growth, hormone injections, and, and literally regrowing cartilage.

[00:56:57] And, uh, and, and, you know. [00:57:00] This is, this is a, I have good friends where I tell them these stories and they go, but Carl, if that was true, why wouldn't we all know about it? And it's because there's no money in fixing your knees. There's money in replacing your knees, and this is not a sinister thing, but they don't invest any time and money and effort in science and to understanding how to avoid.

[00:57:26] Knee replacement surgery because knee replacement surgery is $1 billion business all by itself. Just the knees, billions, billions, billions. And so no one really cares about fixing your knees. They just want to take them out and put their new Teflon coated knees in for you. But. Uh, I just want to tell this one story real quick, Bob, uh, Rob, and then you can go on from there.

[00:57:51] I have never called you Bob before. Does anybody call you Bob?

[00:57:54] Coach Rob Regish: [00:57:54] Uh, no. No.

[00:57:56] Carl Lanore: [00:57:56] Okay. All right. So, so, um, a good friend of [00:58:00] mine came to me, uh, last month. He ruptured his Achilles tendon. He actually didn't come to me, posted on Facebook that he had surgery scheduled. He was so upset. Uh, he has to have surgery scheduled because he ruptured his Achilles tendon.

[00:58:17] I messaged him and said, if you want to avoid surgery, I've got away. He called me immediately. I told him about three peptides. I told him about BPC one 57 Thomason, beta four and McConnell growth factor. Those three. I showed him where to get them. I told them, go and buy a walking boot because they sent him home.

[00:58:38] They said, you're going to need surgery, but we need the swelling to go down. We can't perform surgery now. Come back in a month and we'll schedule your surgery. It's true story. He immediately got the peptides. He went out to uh, one of these, uh, uh, medical supply stores. He bought himself one of those little walking boots.

[00:58:57] I said, you got to restrict movement of [00:59:00] the ankle and, and, and inject these as close to the ankle as you can. I showed him how to reconstitute them. I showed them how to inject them. Papa, he went back for his schedule, his surgery last week. And they told him he doesn't need surgery.

[00:59:17] Coach Rob Regish: [00:59:17] Wow.

[00:59:18] Carl Lanore: [00:59:18] So when people talk about this stuff, a lot of people go, if that was true.

[00:59:24] Why wouldn't we know about it? Why wouldn't the doctor, why didn't the doctors prescribed that for him? Why didn't the doctor say, well, before we do surgery, let's put you on these three peptides. Let's lie. They didn't even block the ankle up on him. They didn't even tell him to go get a walking boot. I told him to do that.

[00:59:39] Why wouldn't they say, let's lock your ankle up in a walking boot so that the ankle is not moving. Let's give you these peptides. You're going to inject these every single day and come back in a month and we'll see if there's progress. We'll keep doing that. If there's no progress, then we'll go for surgery.

[00:59:52] Why don't doctors do that?

[00:59:54] Coach Rob Regish: [00:59:54] That's amazing.

[00:59:55] Carl Lanore: [00:59:55] But I mean, so, so the question is, the question is that your doctor saying there's [01:00:00] absolutely nothing he can do for you? If I went to a butcher and said, I need cabinets built in my home, he would say, there's absolutely nothing I can do for you because he's a butcher.

[01:00:14] He's not a cabinet maker. And these doctors, they have tricks and that's all. They don't know anything else. But what they are told to promote and, and, and in their defense, if they step out of line and say, try this and you're the one person who doesn't work for, you'll Sue them. We've kind of asked ourselves when it comes to doctors not sticking to the standards of care.

[01:00:39] Because it helps 60 people, but the 61st person, it didn't help that 61st person sues and ruins it for the 60 people that it helped. But go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Just a frustration of mine.

[01:00:52] Coach Rob Regish: [01:00:52] Yeah. Well, um, I can certainly empathize with Doug. Right. Ever since my diagnosis, [01:01:00] right elbow, severe arthritis, no cartilage left.

[01:01:03] I have been. I'm doing what I normally do. When they tell you there's nothing you can do, I go looking for better answers because that really doesn't work for me. Now, the first, um, answer and part of the puzzle was injectable glucosamine. Now it is not 100% fixed, but. For reference sake. It's the difference between me being able to do handstand pushups and me not even being able to hold a hands-down,

[01:01:39] Carl Lanore: [01:01:39] wait, you said injectable is not 100% safe?

[01:01:43] Coach Rob Regish: [01:01:43] No, no, it's not 100% fixed. Okay. Okay. For the arthritis. Gotcha. It's a, it makes a big difference. So, you know, as the example that I just gave you, um. Illustrates. So, you know, if you asked me, that's pretty significant. [01:02:00] You should know, uh, that compounding pharmacies and doctors can prescribe this in this country.

[01:02:08] 100% legal, you know, um, theirs comes from an FDA.

[01:02:16] Carl Lanore: [01:02:16] I think the dog just knocked Rob's camera over.

[01:02:24] Coach Rob Regish: [01:02:24] So what do we do?

[01:02:26] Carl Lanore: [01:02:26] Uh, we could wait for him to reconnect. I know he looked like he was wrestling with the dog. I'm going to take him down for a second

[01:02:34] Coach Rob Regish: [01:02:34] here. Let's see if he can, uh,

[01:02:39] Carl Lanore: [01:02:39] I don't think he's gonna be able to recover from this one very

[01:02:41] Coach Rob Regish: [01:02:41] quickly.

[01:02:42] Carl Lanore: [01:02:42] I, I, I sensed that he was kind of wrestling with his dog

[01:02:49] Coach Rob Regish: [01:02:49] and.

[01:02:50] Carl Lanore: [01:02:50] So let's, let's, let's, let's continue on for a second. So he's talking about injectable, uh, Glucosomine and conjoin. It's a good thing. Uh, it can actually help [01:03:00] the, um, the, the, uh, chondracytes that are still there, that aren't destroyed, repair themselves and be healthier and be more cushioning. Uh, but there's really nothing that's going to regrow cartilage.

[01:03:15] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:15] Like growth hormone.

[01:03:16] Carl Lanore: [01:03:16] In fact, growth hormone is so effective at regrowing cartilage is that it is actually a deficit for bodybuilders who use high doses of it because they end up with something called joint crowding, where the cartilage in every single joint in their body from their neck and spine to their fingers and their knees and their hips grows.

[01:03:39] When you use growth hormones. And so we know that it has the ability to make cartilage and chondrocyte and soft tissue folks, tendons and ligaments grow and get thicker and get stronger and repair. It's never been a mystery to the medical orthodoxy that it does [01:04:00] that because that's one of the side effects of using human growth hormone in certain groups of people.

[01:04:09] So you would say to yourself, well, the doctors know that growth hormone use will cause a crowding in the joints, which means that it will in fact cause cartilage to grow. And we got Rob back. We'll bring him up now.  and it's baffling to me. Why since they know that it has this, this potential side effect of causing cartilage to grow, that they don't just deductively think, Oh, so if we want cartilage to regrow in someone's joint, we just have to give them growth hormone.

[01:04:43] I was just, I was just filling some time. So the injectable 

[01:04:48] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:48] yeah, so the injectable glucose, I mean, you can get from a doc. The only problem is it's absurdly expensive. You can find it at a vet supply houses. Um. Racehorse [01:05:00] meds makes one, uh, and I'll leave that up to you is what to do with that now. Um, the next solution I found, and I was really excited about this, still kind of am once a drug called pentose in poly sulfate.

[01:05:12] Carl Lanore: [01:05:12] Yeah. I, the orthopods who are in the ER, we were talking about it at the HRM orthopods in the, no, seem to love this stuff.

[01:05:22] Coach Rob Regish: [01:05:22] Well. Okay. And, and I, you know, reading about it is just, it literally sounded like a one shot cure. Um, and in addition to being able to regrow cartilage, it's, uh, apparently it's a mild blood thinner about one 15th out of warfarin.

[01:05:42] Um, there is an oral form in this country pentose in poly sulfate that's FDA approved for treatment of interstitial cystitis. It's a status. Um,

[01:05:54] Carl Lanore: [01:05:54] it's called Elmiron, right?

[01:05:56] Coach Rob Regish: [01:05:56] Yeah. My, I'm not sure. I don't know. But the [01:06:00] injectable though, the one that's being used for arthritic joints, um, that has been being used down in Australia as far as I can see, it was used in, um, livestock down there for many decades and for at least 10 years now in rugby players and other people.

[01:06:19] Um. So unfortunately here I can find no human grade injectable. That doesn't mean it's impossible. You know, just, it might not be out there right now. Are you saying there were some doctors that are using it?

[01:06:33] Carl Lanore: [01:06:33] Oh, yeah, there are, there's, there's an oral form that you just mentioned. It's called Elmiron, E. L.

[01:06:39] L. I. R. O. N. and it is a, it's used for bladder conditions, which you just identified, but it has been linked to the potential for some sort of, uh, eye damage. Now, I don't know. There is actually a class action lawsuit out there if [01:07:00] you've used Elmiron and and and develop the eye problems. I think if you stay on it for like three years consistently, you'll end up with the eye problems.

[01:07:08] Now, I don't think people are espousing staying on it consistently right.

[01:07:13] Coach Rob Regish: [01:07:13] Um, no, I'm barely conflicting things about that. One of the things that I read that scared me, um, bill Roberts, he writes for the website. Um, I think metamorphosis.com it's primarily a steroid education site, but he reported several cases of people, uh, having.

[01:07:34] Pentose and polyiso fade induced thrombocytopenia, which is a condition the abnormally small number of platelets in the blood, uh, and could lead to stroke. So at that point, my heart sank and, um, I more or less gave up on it. It's, here's the thing, the, the literature suggests, can Towson poly sulfate, [01:08:00] it could induce that condition, and this is the interesting part, could induce that stroke risk if the route of administration was intramuscular or subcutaneous and regardless of dose.

[01:08:15] Although the literature doesn't address the safety of intra articular injections of pentose and poly sulfate, that may be the only safe route of administration to treat things like osteoarthritis. So man, I would love to know, I'd love to check Carl sometime about what was said at eight 4:00 AM about this stuff.

[01:08:37] Carl Lanore: [01:08:37] Well, no, people were just talking about how great it is. That's all. Like, you know, several people, especially amongst the other orthopedic surgeons that were attending. I'm looking for something right now. I turn on my phone. They were talking about how great it is. Um, but again, you know, I think you gotta I would rather go with growth hormone.

[01:08:57] Because growth hormone is something that your body is used to [01:09:00] seeing. And you know, growth hormone has potential effects, negative effects when you use too much. And so you have control over that. Uh, you just need to use, uh, a sensible amount. But, but your

[01:09:14] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:14] gut, you're saying intra articular injections of growth hormone is regrowing cartilage where there was no cartilage.

[01:09:21] Oh, dude.

[01:09:22] Carl Lanore: [01:09:22] First of all, intraarticular injections. Okay, and you missed this because I actually kind of just talked about this when we, when we lost you to fill the time.

[01:09:32] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:32] Yup.

[01:09:33] Carl Lanore: [01:09:33] It is a well known effect of growth hormone, exogenous growth hormone use. Uh, that it, it, it makes soft tissue grow. It's well known.

[01:09:46] Doctors know this. In fact, um, when we see, uh, Agora Miglia. Uh, which is a pituitary dysfunction where people overproduce growth hormone. We see bulging joints in these people. [01:10:00] We see, we see areas of, of of transition from hard to soft to bone. Like in the nose, we see the soft tissue grow. We see that bulging joint and, and bodybuilders who use.

[01:10:13] 10 I use a day 15 I use a day for six months at a time. They end up with joint pain, terrible joint pain, their knees, and it's called joint crowding. So one of the effects of growth hormone use systemic effects. So in other words, you're injecting it in the fat in your belly, is that it makes all of the cartilage in your body grow.

[01:10:37] Now doctors know this. They call it joint crowding. It's one of the side effects of growth hormone use. So you would think that since they know that growth hormone will make cartilage grow, that they would go, Oh, there's an a a side effect that we could actually use. To help people who have cartilage so, so [01:11:00] worn out in their joints that they have arthritis now, cause that's all arthritis is arthritis is the cartilage is gone and the bone and the bone and starting to touch now.

[01:11:08] Okay. So, but they don't, because they're not allowed to use deductive reasoning. But the reality is that this doctor, Dr. Allen Dunn, he would inject 20 units of growth hormone right into the capsule and it, and it stays put there. It doesn't get delivered systemically or very little of it gets out into the bloodstream, let's put it that way.

[01:11:33] And he actually was putting it in a medium, like a gel to keep it even great. I think he was putting it in hyleronic acid, which is, it has a very thick, consistent consistency, high molecular weight, and injecting it directly into the knees three weeks in a row, one week apart. So every Saturday for three weeks and sending people home, and in six months they would, [01:12:00] they would do X rays or their knees and they'd go, Oh my God, this, this thick cartilage has already grown back.

[01:12:05] And he did the research he showed that. With the first injection blood vessels, vascular endothelial growth factors are increased in the joint. Blood vessels start to pop out of the bone cause first you have to have blood vessels to create the scaffolding to grow the cartilage. Then after the second shot, now that the irrigation system was in place, you started to see chondracytes actually starting to to bud.

[01:12:34] And then by the third injection you see these chondracytes getting large, and then when you send people home for six months, it just continues that trajectory and they regrow the cartilage and don't need the knee replacement surgery and their knee, their arthritis goes away. Now he said the only joint that he has problems with.

[01:12:52] Having great success back then was the hip joint. Cause getting into that hip joint and actually delivering the injection is, [01:13:00] is tough. Obviously ultrasound and so on and so forth. But in the knees it's very easy. You use ultrasound guided, but it's very easy to get it right into the joint. But, but yeah, that that would, you would see, you would see prosthetic knees.

[01:13:18] Dropped by 90% if they just started giving people intraarticular growth hormone injections, 90%

[01:13:25] Coach Rob Regish: [01:13:25] easily. Just just one question on that. Does it have to be a physician or is it possible for an individual to do an intra articular injection?

[01:13:35] Carl Lanore: [01:13:35] So there are lots of people out there, uh, clinicians that are doing PRP now, like you've got, you've got nurse practitioners who now work for, for chiropractors.

[01:13:48] Coach Rob Regish: [01:13:48] And

[01:13:50] Carl Lanore: [01:13:50] they would not be able to write you a prescription for growth hormone. But if you happened to walk in with 20, I use of growth hormone and said, Hey, I'd like PRP, uh, [01:14:00] and I'd like hyaluronic acid. And do you mind mixing this in with it? You might be able to get them to do it.

[01:14:08] Coach Rob Regish: [01:14:08] Well, okay, well, I mean, that's good, right?

[01:14:12] Because we're. We're not taking, there's nothing you can do for an answer. No, this is too, this is 2019 arthritis is not some obscure condition that strikes less than 1% of the population. We, we need to have a better answer then there's nothing you can do because that doesn't work. It work for me. No.

[01:14:36] Carl Lanore: [01:14:36] Cause it worked for most

[01:14:37] Coach Rob Regish: [01:14:37] of us. Let's be honest.

[01:14:39] Carl Lanore: [01:14:39] I mean, the reality is that nobody, most people don't want to have to undergo the, the, uh, torture of having a hip or a knee replaced. And we don't even know, you know, there's a guy at my gym.  that asks me for my advice, but never, ever takes it. So now when I see [01:15:00] him in the sauna, he says, Hey Carl, how you doing?

[01:15:02] I just go, good. And I put my headphones on because I don't even want to

[01:15:05] Coach Rob Regish: [01:15:05] waste a minute of time with him.

[01:15:09] Carl Lanore: [01:15:09] He had to go. So, so I told him years ago, daddy's literally wearing his body out and he's had one hip and one knee replacement, and he's getting ready to have the other knee replaced him. And he's, he's, he's thin.

[01:15:25] He probably weighs 115 pounds. He's probably five foot eight, five foot nine. He carries no muscle. Um, he's older, he does excessive cardio. He doesn't eat enough protein. I mean, there's so many things that this guy does wrong. It's just flabbergasting but, but, and he doesn't connect that he's destroying his body as he gets these joint replaced.

[01:15:50] And I told him about intraarticular injections of growth hormone. I told him about using growth hormone and I ran into him last year at the, at, at, [01:16:00] uh, a store with his wife, and he chuckled and said, this is the guy who told me not to get knee surgery. And you know, it's like, and I'm thinking myself, so like I'm, I'm the dummy, right?

[01:16:11] Like I, I told them not to get knee surgery, but he's so happy. So he tells me the other day, his knees doing great. He's going to get the other knee done. And the doctor said that this new knee will last will last at least 15 years, I think he said,

[01:16:27] Coach Rob Regish: [01:16:27] but you can't do a damn thing with it.

[01:16:29] Carl Lanore: [01:16:29] Well, no, no, but here's what I said to him.

[01:16:30] So in 15 years, Chris, you're going to be too old to have surgery. And so when that thing wears out, you have to live with it for the rest of your life, not being able to walk around

[01:16:40] Coach Rob Regish: [01:16:40] anymore. Yeah, that's a, that's a really good point. Um, unfortunately, if there's a family member of ours right now that's in that position where, um, surgery's not an option because of age and frailty, uh, it's not going to happen.

[01:16:57] And if you're a physically [01:17:00] active person and you're pursuing a joint replacement. From what they tell me, you're not going to be lifting weights. I can be running. You're not, you know, this is just to get around. It's not to, uh, to do the things that we do and athletes to

[01:17:16] Carl Lanore: [01:17:16] know. It's not a, it's, you know, you have to try to keep all of your parts.

[01:17:21] This idea that we could just replace, excuse me, replaced, replace them with some prosthetic device is not going to work out good for a lot of people. Nevermind the fact that. For years, people were being contaminated by the metals that these devices were made from. A, I had a guy on who thought he had Lyme disease.

[01:17:44] He turned out to have cobalt poisoning from his knee replacement. You know, the idea of having them put something permanently inside of your body, uh, that metallic, like, I worry about this stupid screw I have in my elbow when [01:18:00] they reattached. My. Uh, my, my, my, uh, tricep that I tour. I mean, it's like, I don't even want that in me.

[01:18:07] I don't know what that, that's titanium. We don't know that a decade from now they're not going to realize that all these titanium prosthetics actually causing problems for people.

[01:18:17] Coach Rob Regish: [01:18:17] Right?

[01:18:17] Carl Lanore: [01:18:17] Auto immunity. We don't know. So this idea, like he's anxious, this idiot is anxious to go get his other knee done. He is,

[01:18:28] Coach Rob Regish: [01:18:28] uh, something.

[01:18:31] Yeah, I know. You just got to shake your head sometimes. Right. And you know, to think about how much this would save, how much money it would save, how much wealth or quality of life dues on what we

[01:18:43] Carl Lanore: [01:18:43] could, we could fix it the entire healthcare system in 10 years. Not just fix it, but fix people's lives at the same time.

[01:18:55] If we were able to actually teach people through the [01:19:00] government because the government stands up there and they're the, they're the bully pulpit. They tell you meat is bad, eggs are bad, cholesterol is bad. You know, they're, they're the ones that actually out there through their my plate and their, their initiatives to teach people about meatless Monday.

[01:19:17] They're the ones that are giving people bad information that a leading. That's leading to the health problems we have today, or they're suppressing good information that can actually fix it because we could, we could change it all and we could change it in overnight, and the effects in 10 years would be, we don't have all this money going into the healthcare system, but the problem is the system would dwindle.

[01:19:41] It would shrink. Hospitals would lose revenue. Pharmaceutical companies would lose revenue, lose revenue. Everybody would lose revenue. When the system that we need is only 20% of the size that it is now, 80% of the system would just disappear. That's a lot of jobs lost. That's billions of dollars in [01:20:00] profits for corporations lost, so you're not going to see it.

[01:20:03] You're just never going to see it. You're never going to see. The right thing be done by the people, because I've said this in a mem government and, and, and industry are like conjoined twins that share a heart. In order for the government to do the right thing, it has to kill its twin by taking its heart and industry.

[01:20:28] If industry wanted to do the right thing, while I industry could do the right thing and survive, but the reality is we're never going to have the government. Fix it for us and everybody out there who thinks the government is the answer to fix this stuff. You're just, you're just Bly into yourself cause they're part of the, they're part of the problem cause they're profiting from it.

[01:20:46] Coach Rob Regish: [01:20:46] You're right. VFD is the problem.

[01:20:50] Carl Lanore: [01:20:50] One of their, one of the problems there, one of them is a lot of problems. They're one of them. They're, they're an enabler. We're going to take all last commercial break. When we come back, we actually have the blueprint tip of the day, so [01:21:00] stay tuned. We'll be right back.

[01:21:02] Coach Rob Regish: [01:21:02] Yup.

[01:21:07] This is

[01:21:08] Carl Lanore: [01:21:08] the superhuman channel.

[01:21:15] Welcome back. So what is the blueprint tip of the day? Rob?

[01:21:20] Coach Rob Regish: [01:21:20] Tip of the day is a thoughts on aging and one of our iron forefathers because, um, he certainly illustrated. How to age gracefully with a lot of muscle tissue and very little body fat. So there are a lot of things to learn there. So when I was just 19 years old, I, you know, participated in my very first full power lifting meet.

[01:21:47] And by flow, of course, I mean, you know, the squat, the bench press, and the dead lift. I did. Well, matter of fact, I took first place in the new England junior open division. [01:22:00] So with just a belt, I got squatted and dead lifted five 25 and I benched three 20 okay. But that win and the trophy they gave me was not.

[01:22:13] What registered with me, believe it or not, it was something else that I experienced and it's still with me today. It never left me. I was getting ready to open right in the deadlift and I was going to open with four 85 I caught out of the corner of my eye. What I thought was a grandfather in the warm up area, right?

[01:22:37] This guy's loading weights onto the bar. I'm thinking he's doing it for his grandson. This kid, he looked like rip van Winkle. He had a white beard almost down to his, you know, groin, a French Canadian guy who King came down over the border. And, um. That was about the only Gary there on the, uh, on his beard when [01:23:00] it came time for our openers.

[01:23:01] Okay. I opened a four 85, and the old guy who I thought was a grandfather, it may, it might've been, he meant right after me or raped before me, as a matter of fact, with four 95. No kidding. Right. That's, I don't know if they still have flights, but, um. They're everywhere, you know, me and him lifting pretty much.

[01:23:22] He's actually lifting a little bit more than me, at least on the opener. The takeaway I got from that was nothing less than this. You can do this. You can lift weights even competitively. Into a very old age, by my estimation, this guy, he was at least 60 at least, and probably more like in his late sixties maybe even the seventies regardless of how old he actually was, he made me realize that you can productively strength train pretty much right up until they put you [01:24:00] in the ground.

[01:24:01] Okay. Getting to know these older lifters and what has kept them in the game that long is important. In fact, I would tell you that some of them, some of the most valuable advice I ever got came from these guys. Uh, so let's think about it. There's a reason they're still going strong, while many of their fellow senior citizens are.

[01:24:28] You know, in lazy boys all day or using walkers, or even worse. To that end, I would encourage you to read the writings of one Vince Drano. Okay. Vince did things his own way, but most importantly, that's got results as a bodybuilding trainer, he was way ahead of his time, and I mean way ahead in the fifties in the 50s.

[01:24:56] He was advocating for a low carb ketogenic diet with [01:25:00] periodic re feeds. Okay. He had a bunch of diets, but just as an example, he had one high carb meal every fourth day, you know, for a lot of his guys, that worked really, really well. He championed the copious consumption of what he referred to as raw, fertile eggs, whole eggs, not just whites.

[01:25:21] He understood the difference. And we talk frequently about clean and unclean foods. He understood the power and the value of Liberty tabs as a source of amino acids minus the calories. Think about that. Not many people think about, you know, do that anymore. Even when they're dieting. Here's a source of amino acids with virtually no calories.

[01:25:47] You know, thinking about what that means for nitrogen retention, right? He understood why. Half and half are heavy cream and other fats were instrumental in amongst [01:26:00] other things, testosterone production. Right. Uh, it's just, it blows, it would blow your mind to read about these things that he was talking about in the 1950s.

[01:26:11] There is more to learn from Sharanda. Much more. Um,

[01:26:17] Carl Lanore: [01:26:17] can, can I just jump in just real quick for one second? Yeah,

[01:26:19] Coach Rob Regish: [01:26:19] sure. Yup. 

[01:26:22] Carl Lanore: [01:26:22] what we've learned Geronda must've deduced this cause we didn't have any of this science back then. What we've learned about fertilized chicken eggs over non fertilized chicken eggs is that fertilized chicken eggs contain full of Stanton.

[01:26:44] Oh, is that fullest? That and suppresses Maya status. Right? And in fact, on the early research done by dr , Jen Lee, who discovered myostatin,

[01:26:58] Coach Rob Regish: [01:26:58] he

[01:26:59] Carl Lanore: [01:26:59] proved [01:27:00] that fullest Staton. Okay. So transgenic rodents that are genetically mutated to create more folate status. Versus transgenic rodents that are genetically mutated to produce.

[01:27:17] No myostatin see the difference. No myostatin overproduce full of Staten, but still produce myostatin the rodents that overproduced myostatin developed almost two times more muscle than the myostatin. No rodents, which developed five times more muscle than just regular rodents. So when you increase FOLA status, it's not only does it suppress myostatin, but has some other growth factor driving, uh, uh, effects that build muscle.

[01:27:53] Now, the only eggs that have that are those that have been fertilized. Now, there's no way for [01:28:00] Sharanda to have known this other than he saw over time a difference in athletes that were eating. Uh, uh, uh, uh, eggs that were fertilized that he just did. He just put the dots together.

[01:28:14] Coach Rob Regish: [01:28:14] Yeah. And, um, you know, you often talk about, you know, let's use our brains and critical thinking.

[01:28:20] Geronda was probably the, the foremost example of that, especially when it came to training and diet. And that right. There is a perfect example. So, um, several of his books are still available. Uh, and I would highly encourage you to buy and read them. One of the most interesting ones is a muscle has six sides.

[01:28:42] It's unlike anything else that you read today. Um, but, uh, you know, all those are all good there. There is a website, iron guru.com. It's an excellent resource for many of his teachings and, and you [01:29:00] know, the things that you're going to read about there. You have real results, unlike the, the writings and in other places, I'll leave it at that.

[01:29:09] And other websites, you know, this was a guy who was so good, the Hollywood studios sent their actors to him when they needed to get in shape fast, like real fast. They get, you know, he was able to do that. So what does that say, no matter how old you are. You should avail yourself to this kind of information because it's some of the best real info that you'll ever come across.

[01:29:38] Now, in some cases, I'm going to tell you now, you're going to be absolutely shocked at what you read, like would you believe three dozen raw, fertile eggs a day? You're going to read about that and other stuff, but remember, virtually all of its ideas and methods. Have stood the test of time. He was wrong on a few things, but [01:30:00] you know, his accuracy rate had to be close to 90% he was one of those, I don't know if mad scientist is the right term, but he had an uncanny ability to unlock mysteries of how the human body builds muscle and burns fat.

[01:30:18] There's no other way to say it. This guy, this guy, read what the human body did. Um, to grow muscle and burn fat and he got it done. His methods got his done. So get going on this today, right? We, because we have a lot to learn about our physical culture for fathers. Events was certainly one of them. I can't find them anymore.

[01:30:44] I'll tell you that in the night. I do remember in the 1980s there were still some old timers around. From the, you know, before steroids or at least before steroids were very widespread days. They trained differently. They ate [01:31:00] differently. They would, I'll never forget one would see a kid. Uh, you know, mix up a, uh, way shaken water and drink it down.

[01:31:09] He'd shake his head like this. I said, what's, what's wrong? He said, he said that, that protein is just going to be burned for energy. It's not going to be used to build muscle. He says, if you want to, you know, build some muscle, add some heavy cream to that, add some half and half, you know, um, they just knew.

[01:31:30] So this is an opportunity for you to. Get some of that knowledge. And, uh, thankfully it's still out there in the form of some of his teachings. It'll take you a lot farther than what most, um, current quote unquote experts though. And, uh, I just think it's terrible, but a lot of his stuff has been lost to the midst of history.

[01:31:56] Vince actually died a broke and broken man. [01:32:00] You know, he's sold Vince's gym or Vince's studio, whatever he called it. But that was his whole, you know, his entire life was that Jim, and they eventually bulldozed it. And Vince, you can imagine what that, did he have children? You know, that's a good question. I don't know if he did.

[01:32:21] He never talked about him. And then he was writings.

[01:32:23] Carl Lanore: [01:32:23] Right. I also read that he started to drink a lot. Towards the end of his life. He would wine, he drank wine, but he drank. He drank a lot. And you know, I can tell you firsthand, and I'm sure a lot of you can recognize this reality, that as you get older and you start drinking a lot, it's because you're trying to numb something that's wrong with your life.

[01:32:45] Either you don't feel well or you're unhappy where you are. People are self-medicating when they drink a lot of wine, they really are. Something is wrong and it makes them feel better. Wine makes them feel better.

[01:32:56] Coach Rob Regish: [01:32:56] Yeah. And I just wish somebody was there at the end to see what you've [01:33:00] contributed. Yeah. You know,

[01:33:02] Carl Lanore: [01:33:02] very sad.

[01:33:02] It's very sad that he had to die and, and now he's being rejoiced.

[01:33:07] Coach Rob Regish: [01:33:07] You know what I mean? Yeah. Yup. So that's it. Get that information and go to Rob rigger, coach Rob rogers.com for even more free information that will take you places.

[01:33:21] Carl Lanore: [01:33:21] We're going to have Dr. George  all the way from Greece tomorrow to talk about the, uh, psychological effects of anabolic steroids.

[01:33:29] If there are any, uh, do they, do they lead to psychotic episodes with psychosis, uh, or do. People with psychosis seem to gravitate to anabolic steroids. We're going to talk about that tomorrow. It's going to be a very interesting show. Hopefully people can make it, and by the way, dr  is taking his position as an expert in the steroid world.

[01:33:54] Okay, so that's another guy that you can look to. He, he's written a book, but it's in Greek. We're waiting for the, uh, [01:34:00] English version to come out.

[01:34:01] Coach Rob Regish: [01:34:01] Terrific.

[01:34:02] Carl Lanore: [01:34:02] All we say about NMR tomorrow with more superhuman radio, thank you for listening. Don't forget to visit  dot com often sign up for stuff. Help, help support the people that help you for free.

[01:34:17] That's it. Yeah. All right. We'll see about tomorrow.

[01:34:18] Coach Rob Regish: [01:34:18] Thanks for watching. Thank you. [01:35:00] .