[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] hey, Hey, welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. Today is January 4th, 2020 for those of you listening to this show a hundred years from now, and you realize, wow. Just how brilliant we all were in this audience. Okay, so I'm so excited to do this show. I've been patiently waiting to do the show for well over a month now, and actually longer than that in anticipation, because I knew what was going on behind the scenes.

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[00:00:49] peptides have been a great interest of mine and my guests today for a very, very long time. And every place you turn there is a peptide expert. In fact, I get [00:01:00] emails regularly from people telling me. You have to have doctors, so-and-so on, she's a peptide expert. You have to have dr so-and-so on. He's a peptide expert, and you know, I don't, I don't know these people, I don't know how intelligent they are, what they know.

[00:01:18] So I'm not disparaging them, but. It's way too soon to have all these peptide experts out there considering that this is a burgeoning area of science. I want to bring my guest on real quick because I don't do well talking good about somebody when they're not on the air with me. Okay. How are you doing bill?

[00:01:39] Dr. William seeds?

[00:01:41] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:01:41] Doing great, Carl.

[00:01:43] Carl Lanore: [00:01:43] Okay, so you and I have been following peptides for better than a decade at least. And um, you really, I will say, I can credit with taking peptides out of the darkness and bringing them into modern medicine [00:02:00] singlehandedly, uh, you have legitimized peptides for therapeutic purposes.

[00:02:05] Would you agree with that statement? I know you're humble. I know. I'll put you on the spot. I know that,

[00:02:13] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:02:13] uh, I would say I've, I've contributed to the education of the validity of, of, and the empowerment of what peptides have in. In their ability to change the efficiency of the cell and how we can affect aging and disease and cancer.

[00:02:36] And, uh, I feel very comfortable in, in saying that.

[00:02:42] Carl Lanore: [00:02:42] Okay. Well, I don't, I can say more than that because it's me and nobody, nobody can take my microphone away from me, at least not yet. You, you have singlehandedly taken what was before, uh, a dark side thing and applied it, uh, as a [00:03:00] doctor would and have shown the efficacy of these peptides and now everybody knows about peptides and everybody is trying to become.

[00:03:10] The tip of the spear and peptides, and I'm so glad that you wrote this book. I'm just going to put the image up just for a second here. Peptide protocols, volume one, and obviously it's volume one because we're learning every day more and more. So now people who want to know about peptide don't have to wait for me to talk about them.

[00:03:31] Don't have to wait for the other guy out there who's just trying to develop a strong audience following to talk about them. They can buy the book and basically learn what clinicians learn who are treating patients. Is that an accurate statement?

[00:03:46] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:03:46] Yeah, I think it's, um, the book is written for the healthcare provider.

[00:03:51] Uh, there is another book that's actually coming out also, that's for the general public. Uh, but this is the first book that's been [00:04:00] needed for the practitioner and also the high end, you know, uh, like your audience, the people who, who do get this aspect of, uh, cell efficiency and how important it is. And.

[00:04:14] Recovery and in the things they're trying to improve in their lives. So, so the book definitely meets those standards. And, and more so, uh, from the science side and from the application side of, of just making, I think giving them this book is meant to give everybody a good foothold and understanding the science and the thought process behind this so that they, they can make their own.

[00:04:41] Good critical decisions now moving forward, you know, with all the things they hear on shows like yours and others, and they can be a better judge, I think of, of, um, of learning more and getting more information. And, and I have to tell you, I'm, I'm [00:05:00] very, I am very humbled by all the people now that are trying to bring peptides to the forefront.

[00:05:06] I think that's. I think it's fantastic. Um, you know, I'm not the, the, the peptide experts that are out there, that's all that does is just push the message forward. I would just encourage everybody to understand that there really is a training process to this. And, um, and that's why the international peptide society was started.

[00:05:30] And this is why we built up certification courses. So. I, I think you have to take that all into account when you listen to what people are discussing and talking about to make sure that they have, um, you know, those backgrounds. And, and that's really important for us is to make sure that there is credible information that represents the science.

[00:05:52] And isn't, isn't really self-promoting, but it's to promote the information for the people to utilize this [00:06:00] to really have. You know, they w what's the exciting thing about this is you and I have realized it's how you really can change lives and how you really can make a difference in the aging process.

[00:06:11] And, and it's just begun. It's just begun. And

[00:06:14] Carl Lanore: [00:06:14] this really is the embarkation point. That's all this is. This is like where we start, what, what's going to unfold over the next three. Five and seven years has got to be nothing short of amazing. I predict because we finally have something that's considered medicine that doesn't treat symptoms, but actually treats causes.

[00:06:35] Like we just did a show with dr  recently about ARA, uh, two 90, I mean, we're talking about treating neuropathies neuralgias. Uh, maybe even fibromyalgia with something that doesn't just confuse the brain and not feel anything anymore, but actually causes the sprouting of these nerve fibers that have been attacked, that caused the problem in the first place.

[00:06:59] And. [00:07:00] It does it in the whole entire body from the cornea, you know, to the, to the skin, which means that your entire water harness and your body is getting an upgrade. That's magnificent from an anti aging perspective.

[00:07:16] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:07:16] Yeah. It's fantastic, isn't it?

[00:07:17] Carl Lanore: [00:07:17] And it's, yeah,

[00:07:19] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:07:19] it's a, it's relevant science. And I have to say, Carla.

[00:07:23] Very impressed with, uh, the speakers like, uh, Betsy, your earth and Carl and, uh, Suzanne that you, that you have really, uh, exposed to the world. I mean, those are some brilliant people and I am very fortunate to be able to work with all of them. Yeah. I think they're amazing people that are spreading. An amazing message and, and doing it well.

[00:07:49] Thank you for, uh, for, uh, having them on your show.

[00:07:52] Carl Lanore: [00:07:52] Oh, of course. Well, you know, it's, it's really good content because for me, I'm looking for my own [00:08:00] answers. And so, you know, it's like, if you want to eavesdrop on what I'm learning for myself, come on, come on along. You know what I mean? So every single peptide interview I do.

[00:08:10] I'm looking, I've got things in my head to achieve answers for. So it's, it's really, it's, it's really amazing. The other thing that I really think is very generous. Um, medicine has been built around, uh, it has a shroud, um, that is designed to keep average people from understanding things. You know, the continued use of Latin.

[00:08:32] A dead language is purposeful. Doctors don't need that, but patients can't read it. So that's why it's used. And, um. And doctor's attitudes that while you wouldn't understand this because you're just a patient and instead what you've done is that you have taken all this information from a clinical standpoint and you're saying to people who would be patients, arm yourself with the knowledge yourself, be a, be a better [00:09:00] consumer by being an educated consumer.

[00:09:01] I think that's very generous. Personally.

[00:09:05] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:09:05] Well, Carl, it's a team effort, right? You can't have a patient can't get better unless they understand what they're about to embark on and how your plan of attack is affecting their disease or their, their issue that they're dealing with. So the more, the more, you know, my, my comment is always knowledge is power and the more knowledge you give your patient.

[00:09:31] The better your team is going to be in moving forward to, to make this better. And, and I, I'm sorry, but I, there's nothing too complicated that you can't, you can't explain to someone and give them the base knowledge and then they build on that. I mean, this isn't a, there I, I've, I always, um, I'm real steadfast in that opinion that.

[00:09:55] You know what, it's, anybody can learn anything they want and [00:10:00] anybody can be just as smart as anybody else. They just have to have the information and know where to get it and then to utilize it. And then we're here to kind of just help guide you to improve that knowledge and to keep you on track. And, and maybe we have a little bit more of a better understanding of how the cell works and.

[00:10:19] And how that can relate to, you know, the issues we discuss on your show and in the book and so forth. But it's, you know, it's all about getting, you're absolutely right about empowering people with information. And that's what this is. And it's, that's what makes it exciting because it makes sense.

[00:10:41] Carl Lanore: [00:10:41] Yeah.

[00:10:42] And, and, and this again, this is such a new area that there's lots of opportunities. For snake oil. Quite frankly, you know, you have to be careful where you get your information from because a lot of it isn't accurate. Uh, and a lot of it is driven, uh, by opportunistic [00:11:00] people who are trying to sell things.

[00:11:01] Uh, I've seen websites selling. Transdermal kits for peptides of peptides that are like in the tens of thousands of Dalton in size. And I wrote an article about it because I felt like people were being hoodwinked. Like those peptides are not going to get in your skin unless you use a needle to bypass the stratum corneum.

[00:11:26] So, you know, there's so much out there right now. That's just hogwash. And the best way for people not to be taken advantage of is to educate themselves. And the best way to educate yourself is to read a book like this, peptide protocols, volume one, because you can actually take this book and starting with this book and start pulling from strings.

[00:11:48] Cause I'm sure you have lots of references in the book and start reading studies and educate yourself to where you yourself. All kind of like an expert, right? Because you could use this as a course guide. This [00:12:00] book.

[00:12:00] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:12:00] No, absolutely. It's a, it's a start. And here's the beauty of this book. Um, so this book is alive book.

[00:12:10] It's going to keep expanding and it's going to stay current with the literature. There's no, there's no book out there that does that. This is, this is doing it, and we'll continue to do it. And it's just the beginning. Like it says, volume one. Uh, it's kind of fun because we can get into as much detail as.

[00:12:33] The audience demands, and it's, it's kind of the beginning. It's a stepping stone. And from there we'll progress to multiple platforms, have a discussion of different silos of medicine, um, the future of peptides, peptide vaccinations, peptide CRISPR type. Um, approaches. [00:13:00] Uh, so it, it, it's, it's everywhere right now.

[00:13:04] And that's what's so exciting about it. And it's just, uh, it's exhilarating actually to be at this point where, where we have the opportunity to, to really educate again, the public that guess what you've been sold a line of bullshit that you can't do something to. Really improved your life and and stave off disease and to some degree.

[00:13:30] And I'm going to stick to this to some degree, control the aging process. Now, when I say that, I'm not talking about making you, you know, 200 years of age. I'm talking about giving you back your golden years. I'm talking about giving you quality of life to do the things that you want to do. That you've been doing since you were 20 or 30 years of age.

[00:13:50] I want you to go out and work out when you're 65 70 years of age. I want you to still have that enthusiasm about being at work. I want you to live life, [00:14:00] and it can be done, and the more people know that there are issues of, you know, how the cell functions. Why we get into these issues as we age and how we confront that through, uh, understanding the different path molecular pathways of the nucleus and the mitochondria and how the cell cleans itself and prepares itself for new cycles.

[00:14:27] We can make that so you can understand that. And we can also make it so. That you get an idea of, wow, this is a multipronged approach and how we go about dealing with disease and aging, and that's what makes it exciting.

[00:14:43] Carl Lanore: [00:14:43] Yeah. Health span is, is really the new mantra now. Right? Lifespan is interesting, but it's not good.

[00:14:49] I, in fact, there was a survey done at a nursing home one time and it made the newspaper about four or five years ago, and people went in a nurse, somebody went in a nursing home and polled [00:15:00] residents there and said, you know, would you like to live to a hundred? They were like, why? This is miserable. So the health span has become more important than lifespan because who cares if you live to be 90 if you're in a chair in a nursing home waiting for somebody to change your diaper.

[00:15:15] That's not, that's not living. The idea is to stay engaged in life until the day you die. And maybe we will eat out some extra years in the in and the goal as well. But even if you don't, even if you only live the 83 years that you were gonna live, to be in fully engaged in life for those entire 83 years is the goal.

[00:15:38] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:15:38] Well, let me, let me give you something very sobering. I, I've been practicing for over. Or up to 25 years now and this, this is what's pushed me in this direction, where from day one, from day one, when you sit in a room and you have the privilege to [00:16:00] listen to people come in and tell you or tell you their stories about what's going wrong in their life.

[00:16:06] And in particular because of my orthopedic background, they functional issues that I see. And con every day, every day. Carl, I have probably over five to 10 patients that say the same thing. Dr seeds, where did my golden years go? Those are, those aren't true that I've, I've saved, I've worked hard. I've, I've done everything right to be ready to take advantage of my retirement or the 25 years I put into this and they can't do it.

[00:16:41] And that is, that's an incredible juxtaposition when I'm sitting there and I know I can help them. But fortunately, you know, early on it was much more difficult, uh, as it's gotten now to where we can, you know, we really [00:17:00] can work through compounding pharmacies and prescribed these safe, tolerant, um, uh. You know, the real deal, uh, in, in, in working on these cell mechanisms, it changed the landscape.

[00:17:15] And you're seeing now big pharma with their progression into, into peptides, uh, in, in all marketplaces, in, in cancer and cataracts and macular degeneration and, uh, in diet, in metabolism. Um. Immune disease. It's unbelievable. And to be in this point right now, uh, I, I'm just, you know, it's, it's just so fascinating to be able to actually, this is why we weren't the medical school.

[00:17:49] Carl. We went to medical

[00:17:50] Carl Lanore: [00:17:50] people.

[00:17:53] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:17:53] This is why we, this is what we thought we were getting into, and unfortunately it didn't really, it [00:18:00] wasn't a model like that. We learned everything, but we couldn't utilize it because there was nothing out there to utilize it for. It was like treating your treated disease after it happened.

[00:18:09] You treated it, you know, injury after it happened. There was nothing about prevention. There was nothing about nutrition, there was nothing at all. And the world's changed and everybody better wake up because here we come. It's exciting.

[00:18:25] Carl Lanore: [00:18:25] And you know, I want to talk more about medicine in a second. I want to put this up cause I just got a message from somebody.

[00:18:30] I had this up earlier. Seeds dot. MD is the website to go if you want to order your copy of peptide protocols, volume one, and anybody can order this, right? You don't have to be a clinician to order this, right?

[00:18:41] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:18:41] No. So again, this isn't, well, this is a book that is meant, this first book is meant for the clinician and healthcare provider and also the type of audience that is a high end.

[00:18:52] Um.

[00:18:53] Carl Lanore: [00:18:53] Intelligent, more like a more like a university class instead of a, the average person

[00:18:59] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:18:59] that's [00:19:00] seeking information and understands how to sift through the literature. And it's written that way. I mean, it's really written. I, I, you know, I wrote it, but I feel it's really written well. So that there is a clear understanding of the pathway.

[00:19:14] It's really written and it's kind of written in two parts. And one of explaining, okay, this is our approach to medicine now, and this is, uh, gives them a great base and understanding that isn't being taught anywhere. Um, but it is here and it has been through the IPS and what we've done with our certification.

[00:19:36] And, and I, I, I'm going to tell you, this is where we're going in medicine. This is where the world is going and you have a chance to understand it just like everybody else. And then that's when we bring in. So once you understand the disease process, you understand aging and you understand what we have available and, and why it happens.

[00:19:57] Then the use of these peptides [00:20:00] make so much more sense and it sticks, you know, it sticks in the, in the brain. And that's the key is having things stick. So when people read more information or hear more, they can go, okay, I recall this. This was a story, and the story made sense to me and I can bring this out of my brain and put things together and then, and then people, you know, become more intelligent and, and make better critical decisions.

[00:20:24] Carl Lanore: [00:20:24] How much is the book, dr? Faith.

[00:20:26] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:20:26] Uh, so Craig question, it's, it's going to be around 39, 95, I believe, cheap and go cheap, but, and then there's going to be discounts for like people on your show and, uh, people on IPS. I mean, there certainly will be discounts for it. Uh, the book itself is a. Uh, what else did I want to tell you about it?

[00:20:48] Um, so we're, we're looking at some type of a springtime launch right now. If you go to this site, this site is going to, it'll introduce [00:21:00] you to being, having the book available. But what it also has is a lot of extra things that I'm going to be sending out and. Um, you'll see, I, I've got a, I think a very powerful newsletter that I've, that's going to be coming out of this, that everybody will have access to.

[00:21:17] I'm a big believer in information and knowledge, and this is, I think, you know, if you ask our, our docs that are all on international peptide society, we're successful because we built something for the doctors. Uh, that I, I don't think there's anything like that in the, in the world that has that repository of information to, to help them make better clinical decisions for their patients.

[00:21:40] So this is the beginning of that platform for everybody to have a better conversation.

[00:21:48] Carl Lanore: [00:21:48] How many docs have been through the IPS certification now?

[00:21:52] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:21:52] Oh gosh. I have to say, uh, at least a couple hundred right now, which, which is a huge number if you understand the [00:22:00] commitment. Um, well over a year, you know, to go through the certification.

[00:22:05] Uh, we have over a thousand in IPS, but that are, that are completely certified. It's just a couple hundred right now with the, uh, certification course. And you have to realize that's a tremendous commitment for these doctors to make on top of keeping their practices going on top of staying true to what they're doing.

[00:22:26] They have to give up a lot of time in that year too. Open the door to learn more. And I, my hats off to any one of those people that take the time to do that. And I think you'll, I think you're gonna, you know, we're already, we're filling up our certification courses, uh, as we speak for this year. Um. And it's all I can say, it's a freight train.

[00:22:50] I mean, I've, I'm just blessed to be around so many people that are willing to listen to maybe a different story and a, [00:23:00] a different concept of, in understanding, uh, how the cell is a part of aging and disease and, and use their knowledge, you know, to help me get smarter and to help them with their patients.

[00:23:13] So that's kinda how it works.

[00:23:15] Carl Lanore: [00:23:15] Right, right. I want to take a first commercial break real quick. When we come back, I want to ask you how many peptides are covered in the book, um, and some questions about what people will learn from the book. Cause that sound sounds great,

[00:23:29] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:23:29] Carl.

[00:23:29] Carl Lanore: [00:23:29] I stay tuned. We'll be right back with more super human radio.

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[00:23:38] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:23:38] This

[00:23:38] Carl Lanore: [00:23:38] is the superhuman channel evolution just got kicked up a notch.

[00:23:46] Welcome back to superhuman radio and chocolate with Dr. William seats today about his new book, peptide protocols, volume one. You can get it at seeds, S E E D S. dot. MD. Sign up for the newsletter. I just did [00:24:00] to get anybody there. Will recognize my name. Um, so I got an announcement for those of you who love the dr seeds line.

[00:24:07] From today through the 12th if you use the coupon code mail, M a I L you can save $20 off of BPC BPC plus, and the chill pill. This only will be valid through the 12th. So if you go there on the 13th, then texts me and say, Hey, it didn't work. It didn't work because you waited too long. Now that brings us to a, before we talk more about the, um.

[00:24:32] The book. We have a, a comment from Albert Woody here, BPC one 57 oral is great stuff. Obviously you have a lot of people who didn't want to cross over to the dark side like the rest of us didn't inject anything who are having great success with this complex protein that once is in the gut, cleaves into multiple strands of BPC.

[00:24:53] Brilliant. Are there other peptides out there, dr seeds that you see that are orally available.

[00:25:01] [00:25:00] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:25:01] Not yet. No, no. There are medical.

[00:25:03] Carl Lanore: [00:25:03] This one is resident in the God from God. Right. We find it in the gut.

[00:25:06] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:25:06] Correct. That's why I can deal with the pH and the enzymatic, uh, aspects of, of how peptide bonds can be degraded.

[00:25:15] The hydrolysis, the environment, it's, it's meant to survive in that environment. And that's how we were. You know, how we were able to bring something like this as a supplement that can be converted into strands of BPC and make it much cheaper for, you know, people to, to be able to utilize instead of, uh, having to deal with the, uh, injections.

[00:25:39] Um, or the, uh. You know, the BPC one 57 that is the prescription.

[00:25:45] Carl Lanore: [00:25:45] Right? Right. And obviously you can't sell that. And there are companies out there attempting to sell that in oral. Um, and that's illegal because it is considered a drug. It's not an over the counter supplement. It's synthesized. It's not naturally occurring like [00:26:00] the protein is.

[00:26:00] It's synthesized. So that means it's a drug and you sh if you're buying that, you know you're, you're running risks, there's no doubt about that. So let's talk about the book now some more. How many peptides altogether are covered? You say.

[00:26:15] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:26:15] Wow. I should probably look through the book for that one up. I cover, I think the basis we cover about 30, about 30 peptides that are, um, I think relevant to the reader at this level.

[00:26:30] Um, the, it's, it's really, um, it's really kind of, uh, focused on. The process of looking at, you know, at the beginning it's kind of divided into two parts. Part one is basically looking at redefining what aging truly is and exposing people to how intelligent the cell actually is. You know, that, that all we're doing with peptides is providing the cell, the [00:27:00] giving it its ability to deal with the issues it wants to.

[00:27:04] Uh, meeting redox and aspects of why a cell goes bad, it we're just giving the cell the opportunity to handle those issues, to stay in a normal state, to take care of issues. Because the cell is that intelligent, smart. We're not changing anything. You know, as far as what the cell can't isn't supposed to do, we're, we're giving it the, the input so that it can make those choices.

[00:27:34] You know, to, to choose what pathway it needs as far as, you know, let's say it's working against a significant amount of, uh, free radicals or antioxidants. Well, it has the choice of increasing a topic. G my Tophat G it can go to senescence. Um, it can do the things, it can go to a pop ptosis. It can do the things it needs to do.

[00:28:00] [00:28:00] Um, that it's programmed to do. And that's, that's the, that's what the power of this process is. So we talk about intelligence, we bring in this whole issue about senescence, that which everyone needs to understand because this is where medicine is today. Um, and then we go into the different aspects of harnessing this information and looking at how peptides can enhance cellular function and efficiency.

[00:28:25] And then, you know, we'll go, we go through how. Uh, how that's important in repair and recovery. And we relate it to disease processes and to, you know, post-workout, cause it's all the same. And if we make it relative that way than people, again will, will, will remember. And so we go through that. We go through the immune system and immune upregulation would have to do with everything.

[00:28:50] And then we talk about metabolic enhancement. Uh, we talk about cognition and, uh, and, uh, uh, uh, also [00:29:00] neuropathic issues with pain and so forth, like you've mentioned. So, so we covered just the wide spectrum of what everybody's kind of, um, had exposure to. And. We just give them the information to make, I think some better decisions and, and some alternatives in how they look again at disease and aging.

[00:29:21] Carl Lanore: [00:29:21] So, so did I send you the study on a single bout of resistance training eliminated 48% of, uh, senescent cells in muscle tissue. Well,

[00:29:33] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:29:33] wouldn't surprise me,

[00:29:34] Carl Lanore: [00:29:34] but wait, wait, wait, wait. Here's the best part. They had a high protein and low protein group and the high protein group had the same results, which means that you don't have to blunt M Tor to get rid of senescent cells.

[00:29:48] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:29:48] Well, uh, okay.

[00:29:54] So he couldn't say that. But, um, I mean, cause the senescent cell is all about M tour. [00:30:00] So, but, but, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's what people need to understand. It isn't like everything's in senescence and everything's not in senescence. It's. W you got, you know, millions of cells that are in different phases. And again, this is the intelligence of the cell.

[00:30:21] The cells know when they need to take care of their issues and to go through a tough muggy turn off amateur. Upgrade a MPK and set that process into better sell efficiency. Why they can be right next door to a cell that's common in Amador. I

[00:30:39] Carl Lanore: [00:30:39] mean,

[00:30:40] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:30:40] it doesn't work like we, it's not a single set of processes.

[00:30:45] It's why it's why mTOR, we could get into a great discussion about mTOR and an PK. Can be working simultaneous. Yes. So, um,

[00:30:56] Carl Lanore: [00:30:56] but that, but that's my frustration with this whole mTOR [00:31:00] bad and PK. Good argument. It's not that simple.

[00:31:04] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:31:04] No, it's not. It's not at all. And, um, you know, it's, it's that same argument about it goes back to the ying and yang.

[00:31:14] It goes back to the . Doesn't it make sense to everybody that it's gotta be in balance, right? This can't be one more than the other, but it can be more one thing during a period of time and more of another. It's like working out, I mean, initially after working out or at the beginning of a recovery, it's all about proliferation and the later it's about differentiation and then you know,  can upregulate later.

[00:31:42] Autophagy can take place early. Before that, I mean. It all works together. You just, the more you understand it though, you realize that, okay. Some of this stuff. Makes sense then about timing when you do things, uh, you know, why sleep is important. All these [00:32:00] issues I think just become more important to everybody and I, I think that's been a real blessing from a, a standpoint as a physician and working with patients is appreciating once you start, you know, here's the beauty of some of the things with peptides.

[00:32:14] It, you do get these amazing stories. Sometimes that are right off the bat of how people just notice changes. And that's a bull. You know? That's a blessing to have the back. Cause that's not going to happen with everybody. But you get everybody to a point of where, wow, they really have a life change. You know, a moment.

[00:32:34] Well that takes them to the next step. They had come to you. The conversation stops Carl and changes where your patient's going. Dr seeds don't, what else can I do to improve my life? What, um, exercise. Diet. You know what, what?

[00:32:50] Carl Lanore: [00:32:50] How do I make this rock track your sleep? Yeah. Then you can actually want, because now they're hooked.

[00:32:55] Now they know. Wow, there's something that can be done. What else works? That's really [00:33:00] a great point.

[00:33:01] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:33:01] It's an amazing transformation to be part of that with everyone that takes that journey. I mean, I, I, it's so. Awesome to see those changes and it's, there's nothing like it in medicine. I mean, this is what I went into it for, and to get that feeling is it, don't get me wrong.

[00:33:19] As an orthopedic surgeon, I love fixing things. I love repairing. I love getting people feeling better. This is on a whole nother level of where you've taken somebody who thought they had no more options. You know, their brain fog, their, their guts destroyed, uh, there, I don't know, you know, a multitude of their chronic fatigue there.

[00:33:40] They're anxiety ridden that, and they've done, you know, they search for answers for years and you can change that in months. And that's. That's something,

[00:33:53] Carl Lanore: [00:33:53] since we're talking about a senescent cells for a second.

[00:33:56] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:33:56] Yeah.

[00:33:58] Carl Lanore: [00:33:58] Do you have a chapter on [00:34:00] foxhole for,

[00:34:01] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:34:01] yes. So there's four Fox, there's four Fox gene transcription factors, and we talk about them all.

[00:34:10] And, um, it just depends on what part of the system, you know, if we're talking about immune cells or we're talking about the nuclear , uh, of, of cell repair or. Um, insulin cells are beta cells. So, so it's very, it's very different. But, um, we, we bring all those concepts of the cert gene, the Fox gene, um, and, and their importance with P 53, the tumor suppressor, we put the picture together.

[00:34:41] So it makes sense because I, I, I, I'm going to promise people that if you. If you follow that process because it's all very, there's a lot in the literature that really can confuse you about all of those, uh, drink gene transcription factors and how they work. But I think we [00:35:00] do a really good job of taking you through, okay, here's how a cell is efficient and here, how it becomes inefficient and how that affects.

[00:35:09] Other cells like the immune system and so forth. And why these transcription factors are so important in, um, like, like  is your master regulator of what's going to happen with a cell progressing into senescence or progressing into a tophiG  or are undergoing DNA repair or going into a pop ptosis.

[00:35:36] Um, it's the master of pulling all of these things, the immune system in utilizing the Fox genes, utilizing PGC one alpha, turning off mTOR. I mean, it can control the metabolism. It can stop part of glycolysis. It can improve part of the TCA cycle. I mean, it is the master of your [00:36:00] genome basically. Right. And, and what we're really doing.

[00:36:04] Is, and this is, this is something that I get really, I get, I, I do get into this a little bit in the book, but that, you know, I kind of see, I, I don't want to make the statement in the wrong way, but I've see evolution is a place right now where we've got to make some serious choices because we've gone backwards and it has to do with.

[00:36:31] Not really what the genome is. The genome is transcribing information, but environment and things that we've done to our bodies have changed that messaging and signaling to the genome, which is called an epigenome. Epigenome has, is what's changing the phenotypical signature of a cell, meaning that phenotype.

[00:36:58] That sell what it was [00:37:00] meant to. Genetically transcribe has changed because of things that have affected it. So the phenotype has changed. The phenotypic signature can be transmitted across progeny. That's why we're seeing autism. All of these issues are a progression of multiple changes that are epigenetic changes that can transgress generations.

[00:37:28] And I think we're finding out, you know, all this stuff people doing on 21 or 23 of me and all these things to find out what they're. Genetic code is. That's about inborn errors. That's, that's like the studies are already coming out that, Hey guys, this has like this much to do with what's

[00:37:48] Carl Lanore: [00:37:48] happening. We see that in Brocka M and a, a twin studies with a women who have the Baraka gene and one gets breast cancer.

[00:37:56] One does it. That immediately disqualifies that the gene [00:38:00] is everything. Concept

[00:38:01] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:38:01] it has to do with the epigenome.

[00:38:07] Carl Lanore: [00:38:07] Let's talk about the epigenome for a second. The epigenome was an, was actually part of the evolutionary driver. The epigenome was designed to read the environment. And reprogram the body for the environment and subsequently the offspring that we were going to bring into the environment.

[00:38:29] You see germlines in both men and women change. Based on epigenetic and coding, but it served the purpose a long time ago. It served the purpose by allowing us to adapt and predict what is going to be needed for the next generation to survive in this environment we're in right now, but we've taken it in a different direction because we're doing crazy stuff through our bodies now.

[00:38:52] We're being exposed to stuff. In fact, I've got somebody from the Robert Kennedy foundation coming on in two weeks to talk about, you know, there's real [00:39:00] issues about. RF. It is doing things to people's bodies as they're causing cancer. I don't know. But it is doing things and these are having epigenetic changes on our offspring, and we can't deny that epigenetics is necessary for us to build humans that are going to survive in this environment that we're exposed to today.

[00:39:23] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:39:23] I mean, it goes, it goes back to Darwin and Dawkins. I mean, Darwin was all about adaptive behavior and fiscal adaption to environmental changes. And he wasn't far off, but he didn't know anything about the genome. Right. And then Dawkins brought all of this about, Hey, look, the genome is there to determine what can potentially happen.

[00:39:45] And his, his actual. You know, his, his work was, was incredible because in the 70s he brought to light that the cell is intelligent in the cell because of its genetic code. [00:40:00] It can, it adapts to, it wants to be dominant. And that's really through the epigenome. It's how the, it's, it's, it's changes to change the phenotype of the cell.

[00:40:11] So. So if the information has been out there, it's just about putting it all together. And, and what we're doing is, and I'm going to, I'll make a, uh, make a really, uh, a profound prediction here. And, and I don't think I'm far off is, and this is part of where my work is right now. I think, you know, everybody's looking at markers, they're looking at blood tests, uh, specific enzymes.

[00:40:40] You know, there are looking for that one marker to tell me that something's going wrong. Well, guess what? There's over there. We need to look at 20 million different factors that change how a cell functions, but we can do it now and we can look at how the epigenome. [00:41:00] Changes due to aspects that a cell has been.

[00:41:03] If we can take a cell like a STEM cell and we can take a STEM cell and specifically look at one cell, which has just recently been done, by the way, and know how that epigenome works in that cell. And then take that cell outside of its environment, and let's say, take a senescent STEM cell, depending on where it is, and then look at how that epigenome is affected.

[00:41:28] Oh my God.

[00:41:29] Carl Lanore: [00:41:29] Right now you have something right.

[00:41:32] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:41:32] Lights out. Right? And that's where we're going.

[00:41:37] Carl Lanore: [00:41:37] But real quick, I don't want to, but does Fox Oh four or Fox Oh four whatever, you probably actually have an ability to clear senescent cells.

[00:41:47] Um,

[00:41:48] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:41:48] it's more involved. No, it's more involved in a tophi G. um, it, it stays, instead of transcribing from the nucleus to the cytoplasm, it stays in the nucleus.

[00:42:00] [00:41:59] And it upregulates those, uh, aspects of and PK and things to, to make the cell survive. Right. And to clear, uh, to potentially improve a tophi G. um, the FOXO FOXO three is real important for a STEM cell to maintain it. Resilience to stay in a state of  to be able to reproduce. Um, it's big. The Fox gene is a transcription gene is very big on producing.

[00:42:31] Catalyzed glutathione peroxidase, um, superoxide dismutase, um, . These are all significant antioxidants that deal with the cell when it starts to go into that senescent state, so it doesn't Fox it. P 53 is really more important with taking a cell out of senescence incidences. Then the Fox is the Fox Fox is just [00:43:00] part of cleaning up a cell.

[00:43:01] Okay.

[00:43:02] Carl Lanore: [00:43:02] Yeah. And it's interesting because I remember about five years ago, life extension foundation came out with catalyst and they were like, this is it. This is the answer to aging better. And they were selling literally catalyst in tablet form for people to take. And so here we come back to that same discussion.

[00:43:17] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:43:17] It doesn't work. So, but so that's

[00:43:20] Carl Lanore: [00:43:20] gotta be made. It's gotta be made in the cell. Right,

[00:43:22] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:43:22] exactly.

[00:43:23] Carl Lanore: [00:43:23] I know, I know.

[00:43:24] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:43:24] I mean, that gets into, you know. Talk about how long ago was that you said that they were doing

[00:43:29] Carl Lanore: [00:43:29] that four or five years ago. They came out with it. So catalyst.

[00:43:32] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:43:32] Yeah, so this is again, this is the focus on peptides.

[00:43:38] We're giving the ability of the cell to up regulate it's Fox gene transcription that can then affect the upregulation of the nuclear respiratory factor one and two more so too. That transcribes in the nucleus, these superoxide, [00:44:00] Desmond taste, catalyst, all of those that are very important as antioxidant.

[00:44:04] So again, it's the cell, right? The cells intelligent. The cell role is when it needs to utilize it. Well, that's all we're doing is we're, we're, we're giving it that, that ability to do that.

[00:44:16] Carl Lanore: [00:44:16] Uh, I want to take our last commercial break for this interview here. When we come back, we'll wrap it up and we'll talk about where you can get the book, when to expect it.

[00:44:23] And then, uh, later in the show, I'm going to tell you about my own personal experience in an episode of what I'm digging. I had to go for blood work recently, uh, and. If you look at my blood work, you would swear I'm dying of congestive heart failure. But I'm not, because a lot of athletes run into this and we have more and more athletes out there with the emergence of CrossFit who are going for blood work for different reasons.

[00:44:46] And they are being told, you know, their creatinine levels are too high or their, uh, their pro BNP. Uh, it's too high and it, and it comes down to, did you train the day before they drew your blood? [00:45:00] So we're going to talk about that when we come back. Stay tuned. You're listening to super human radio. We're talking with Dr.

[00:45:05] Williams seeds about his new book, peptide protocols, volume one. You can get it at seeds, S, E, E D S. dot. MD. We'll be right back. This is the superhuman channel where we use oxygen for the power of.

[00:45:22] Welcome back. So Penelope Whitworth said what actually was on my mind. She said he beat everyone to it. He's the first to write a peptide book. So he will go down in history as the peptide expert. I'm sorry. It's the truth. I know that you hate that kind of stuff. I know one thing I know about you is that anytime I bragged about you on the show, you've always had called, don't do that.

[00:45:48] Please. I don't want that. And you're a very humble man. Uh, it's, it's all about, uh, your, your practice and your family, and that's it. But it's the truth. It's the truth. You look, you and I both started [00:46:00] out kind of in the same place, uh, reading stuff from GAT and all these other people out there, but you're the one.

[00:46:07] Who adapted it to medicine. You created the international peptide society for the proliferation of good information about using peptides therapeutically, and you are training doctors who are having great success using your methods and modalities and it can't be denied. You will go down in history as the father.

[00:46:28] Of, uh, bringing peptides into modern medicine, and that's my opinion and nobody's going to change it. So

[00:46:34] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:46:34] that's very nice of you all. I want to go down in history as being a good dad and a good husband.

[00:46:40] Carl Lanore: [00:46:40] I know are, I know, I know that. So, um, is the, is the book actually shipping now? I know you gave, you had copies

[00:46:48] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:46:48] of the book.

[00:46:49] Well, yeah, it's, you know, of course, some of the people that have been, um, that have, uh, that. [00:47:00] I've, uh, I've had, uh, involved in teaching and so forth. I've had them look at it and read it and give me their feedback and so forth. Um, but it's, I'm not gonna release it til the spring time. Um, and there was a couple of reasons for that.

[00:47:16] And it has to do with, uh, uh, multiple, multiple aspects of trying to, I'm really trying to hit a worldwide audience of physicians. And. I just want to do the right thing in preparing people for some information that I think is going to change the world. And I want to do it right. And, and it's not about the sale.

[00:47:36] It's not about, you know, how many of these you get out. It's about doing it right to give them the information. And, uh, so I'm looking at springtime, um, I, I believe .

[00:47:48] Carl Lanore: [00:47:48] But in the meantime, if people sign This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., they can fuck getting newsletters and blogs,

[00:47:54] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:47:54] get the newsletter and they'll get the release date.

[00:47:56] Cause I honestly don't have, you know, that stuff is [00:48:00] amazing when it's controlled by publishers and, uh, you don't have complete control of that. But I know it's spring. I don't know the exact date

[00:48:08] Carl Lanore: [00:48:08] though. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well that's good enough. And, uh, and then of course, uh, international peptide society, anybody who's listening to the show.

[00:48:17] If you're, if you are a physician, uh, you can go to the, uh, it's peptide society.org. If you're not a physician and you are under the care of a physician, inspire your doctor to go to peptide society.org and sign up. Um, and if you got, I'm sorry,

[00:48:33] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:48:33] and curl, we have, um, we actually have a locator now. That comes up on that'll, that goes live.

[00:48:39] This Friday.

[00:48:40] Carl Lanore: [00:48:40] I've been asking for this for a year.

[00:48:43] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:48:43] I've been

[00:48:44] Carl Lanore: [00:48:44] asking

[00:48:46] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:48:46] it. Believe me, it's hard, Carl, when you're, when you're a, when you're an institutional thing like this, that you know your money's tight and you have to build as you build your membership, it's hard to do all [00:49:00] the things you want to do right off the bat.

[00:49:01] But. We're finally at that spot of where we've instituted this location, dr location, a beacon that when people come up and, uh, patients that want to find it, IPS doctor near them, they'll be able to find who is around them. And that's, uh, that, like you said, it's been a long time coming and it's a, it goes live Friday.

[00:49:23] Carl Lanore: [00:49:23] And that's, that's wonderful cause you can go to peptide society.org as a patient wanting to find a doctor who's already trained and find someone in your area. Now, if you're listening to my show internationally, you're in the UK, you're in Australia, you're in Canada, your wherever you are, Germany and you are a doctor, or you have a relative that's a doctor or you know, a doctor.

[00:49:46] Tell them to go to peptide society.org and connect now because this will enable them to bring this kind of like a flash bulb, boof, and it just kind of goes out. We could, we could, we do need an international [00:50:00] involvement in this. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it.

[00:50:02] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:50:02] Well, that's the beauty is we do have that right now, and that's growing.

[00:50:08] I can't, I can't tell you how many Skypes I'm on to Japan and Russia and Australia and Brazil and Israel. I mean, it's crazy. This international push we're getting right now, this is just the beginning, just the beginning. It

[00:50:29] Carl Lanore: [00:50:29] seems that all the traditional doctors believe in the take a pill and go away practice of medicine.

[00:50:36] I am hopeful that more progressive doctors become available to everyone, and there are more today than there have ever been. That's the truth.

[00:50:44] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:50:44] Well, like I said, Carl, we all, we all want it. That's why we all went to medical school because that's what we thought we were going to be. Um, it's just till now where.

[00:50:56] You know where science and [00:51:00] technology has come together, because you know, peptides before were things that synthetically were very difficult for us to reproduce because the body would enzymatically degrade them and break them down and we couldn't repeat what the body was doing. We just been able to kind of progressive Lee do that over the last, you know, 40 50 years, but to where it's getting better and better and better.

[00:51:23] So now we're able to, you know, approach the disease process like that. And. That's a, that's significant.

[00:51:33] Carl Lanore: [00:51:33] I know you have patients waiting for you. You were gracious enough to escape for a little while to do the, the podcast. And I'm really thankful, thankful for your friendship and your, and your mentorship because I've learned a lot from you over the years.

[00:51:45] Uh, and I hope that people go out and get this book because knowledge is like fire and you've got to fan the flame so that it can cover the earth. And we need more people to know about peptides. And every one of you can be the fire carrier by getting the [00:52:00] book, educating yourself and talking openly with crowds so that people start to understand there is, there's a new sheriff in town when it comes to medicine and it's the peptide.

[00:52:12] Dr. William Seeds, MD: [00:52:12] That's great. I like it. Hey Carl, let me just say thank you for everything you've been doing for over 10 years. With your, uh, you know, your inquisitiveness, your questioning, your critical decision making, all the things you've done to give people the ability to look outside the box. And, and to think that, you know, there are other possibilities and you, you are the pioneer of that and you continue to be, and I, my hats off to you for all those things you do.

[00:52:40] Carl Lanore: [00:52:40] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And we're going to let dr seeds go now. When we come back on, I'll tell you why I may be dying of congestive heart failure and didn't know it. Alright, we'll see you later. Take care of dr. bill. See you later.

[00:53:00] [00:52:59] Welcome back. This will be short and sweet.

[00:53:06] Um.

[00:53:09] So recently, uh, I had to increase my life insurance. I love this company, big Lou. They're fantastic. But, uh, when I had my blood work done initially, it came back with some shocking stuff, literally, like I am dying kind of stuff. Um. So I trained, I've been training very hard again, and I'm doing three days in a row.

[00:53:36] I'm hitting every body part, every one of those three days. And you know me, I mean, I pushed the envelope. I don't, I never go into the gym and coast. I'm training very hard. And then I'm taking two to three days off. So the day that I had my blood work done for my, uh, my life insurance, it was the first day off.

[00:53:55] It was the morning of the first day off and. You know, everything checked [00:54:00] out. Okay. My blood pressure was fine. And all, all the, all the stuff I answered was great and all that stuff. But then my blood blood work came back. They were like three red flags, really bad red flags. So the first one was, uh, the, well, the very first one was the ratio of, um, of, uh, not creating, but, um, creatinine, creatinine, and, uh, obviously, which is common.

[00:54:27] Because if you're training hard and you're breaking down muscle, this sort of stuff happens. Um, the other one was actually a result of a, I'm trying to think of the names that they use  so just bear with me for a second. The other one is actually, uh, produced as a result of how hard the heart is working.

[00:54:48] And it's w while it's a while, it's, it's, it's designed to be a, a marker for heart stress. It seems to have other roles in the body. [00:55:00] After I found some studies and started to read about it, and clearly I am putting heavy workloads on my heart, but this looks like I'm dying. I had, and I'm not, obviously, I'm not, and so.

[00:55:17] The, the, the point of this whole discussion is that bloodwork doesn't really tell the whole story. If you are somebody that's in our audience, um, you know, creatinine levels, uh, may be higher in people who train, well, they all hire and people who train hard. And, um. As a result of that, we don't look like average people.

[00:55:43] And when you have blood work done for health insurance or life insurance, they're looking at average people who sit on their asses and do nothing. Now when their hearts start to go bad, it's from doing nothing. And there's certain things that appear in your blood [00:56:00] that indicate, wow, you're in trouble. But the reality is we're not in trouble because this is part of the, uh, up-regulation and adoptation to heavy resistance training.

[00:56:13] There's not enough. And the other thing is there's plenty of research out there about people who run, right? There's plenty of research about people who do bicycling. There's not a lot of good research out there about people who lift weights the way we do in this community. And so. Initially, uh, the underwriter said, wow, you know, this, this isn't, this isn't good.

[00:56:38] And I said, well, you know, I had just come up for three day training and I don't think they really get it when we talk about training and when the average person talks about training, like I have friends who go to the gym and they're chatting while they're working out. I can't chat while I'm working out because I'm focused and I'm grinding.

[00:56:54] And so. The reality is that, uh, we are [00:57:00] now going to start to see, uh, insurance underwriters having to understand and take into account, especially with the, the introduction of CrossFit. I mean, you've got people out there that literally are like human machines and they are pushing their bodies to new limits and markers that used to mean pathology.

[00:57:24] Actually mean physiology. So markers that the average person would have, and they'd say, Oh my God, this guy is going to have a heart attack. He's dying. Uh, which one of them mine was, it's like, Oh man, you're, you like the Rangers one to 17 and you're 470. And so I'm going to post links to some studies in today's show that I hope people take a time, a moment and read.

[00:57:47] Because if you're going to be going out for life insurance. Uh, if you're going to be going out for any kind of insurance, you need to be prepared because the model they're putting you up against is the average [00:58:00] slothful American. When these walkers show up in their blood. It's because their heart is failing.

[00:58:08] It's going to, it's starting to wear out, but when they show up in our blood, it's really not pathological. It's physiological changes. It's actually part of the adoptation process, and we have to take it upon ourselves to start educating. Um, people. About this because we are really super humans compared to the rest of the country.

[00:58:29] Uh, people don't train hard like we do. We're very, very small select group within this community and, and the average doctor has never seen somebody who goes in and regularly does what we do day in and day out. Now granted, I was doing three days in a row. And that was excessive, and I have backed it down just because I have common sense.

[00:58:52] I'm not trying to grind myself into the ground. Um, but w we, we need to start to talk more, [00:59:00] uh, with our physicians that we know that some of these markers are going to be elevated. Uh, because we train so hard. Uh, there's a big difference between pathological adaptation and physiological adaptation, but the markers may look the same.

[00:59:19] Someone whose heart is starting to fail. Uh, they may end up with the same markers as somebody who gets out in the gym and crushes it, but clearly they're not the same. And clearly their outcomes are not going to be the same. And so what I want people to start thinking about is when you start going for your annual annual physicals, if you're applying for life insurance or health insurance, anything like that.

[00:59:47] You need to have discussions with people about just how hard you train and they should be able to know. Cause don't forget, we're, we're kind of like, we're locked into the whole BMI thing, right, right. I mean, people look at, some of us, we carry a, [01:00:00] uh, you know, I'm supposed to be a hundred and at six, one I'm supposed to be 170 something pounds.

[01:00:06] I mean, it's crazy. I'm 218 pounds right now. I want to say. And I'm not fat. You know, I got a little bit of fat on me. Don't get me wrong. I do. But I'm not somebody who is a, you know, 40% body fat. And so I, but, but BMI still looks at me the same way as if I was somebody who was 40% body fat. And so we need to start educating ourselves and we need to start educating the people within medicine to understand these things.

[01:00:36] Now I'm going to go ahead and have blood work done. I'm going to take a couple of days off cause I know some of the markers were actually a result. Of enzymes produced from rigorous exercise. And we know that they can, but there was so elevated, cause I did three days in a row of gargantuan whole body work.

[01:00:55] Uh, and, and naturally these, uh, the, these markers were elevated and I'm [01:01:00] going to, uh, wait a few days, I'm just walking and I'm going to go have blood work done again. And I'm sure I'll pass with flying colors because my heart's not failing at all. If they saw the way I trained, they would go, this guy is not, he doesn't have a weak heart at all.

[01:01:13] But I'm going to post some of these, uh, links to these studies in today's show, and hopefully they'll help people become more educated. The people that really need to be educated about this are the ones that are doing the underwriting. They can't look at a 220 pound, six foot man who is a hyper muscular.

[01:01:34] And only carrying 12% body fat the same way they look at a six foot, 220 pound guy who's got a 42 inch waist and is 40% body fat. And but we are where we are, looked exactly that way and it's really unfair because. We're definitely healthier than the average person would. [01:02:00] Definitely stronger than the average person.

[01:02:01] We definitely take, uh, more care in making better choices. We try to improve our sleep. We watch what we eat, we don't eat crap. If we do drink, it's moderately once in a while we don't, we're not partying and you know, banging the drum every single weekend and we should be treated that way. We really should.

[01:02:21] So I'm going to put some links to studies in today's show, and I want you to take a look at them and keep them handy because if you find yourself in a situation where you're applying for life insurance or health insurance, and they're about to do blood work, educate yourself so you can have the discussion ahead of time.

[01:02:39] Because if you have the discussion ahead of time. Then people can go, Oh, he kind of said this would be the case. If they tell you, Oh man, you know, you look like you're about to have a heart attack and you go, nah, it's because of the way I've been training the past three days. They don't believe it because the way they think, well, I go to the gym, what are you talking about?

[01:02:58] They don't understand how we [01:03:00] train. They don't understand what it takes to upregulate the plumbing, the heart, the muscles the way we do. And so I'm going to put these links in today's show so people can take a look at them, have them handy, and let's say we have a couple of questions real quick I want to answer.

[01:03:18] So a Jess Kessler says, will this be available after? Yes, it will This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. You can download the podcast, or you can go to Facebook and look for the superhuman, a radio network Facebook page, and watch this entire video over if you choose to. Uh, and uh, and thank you, Jeff Robinson said, yeah, I always link them in the group, so that's excellent too.

[01:03:43] So there you go and share this show around because peptides are the future of medicine. In fact, there are pharmaceutical companies out there trying to create pro peptides that they can patent. And, and, and market because you [01:04:00] can't, you can't, these peptides are naturally occurring in the human body. You can't patent them.

[01:04:06] Now, there are some peptides out there that are one offs where they're changing them a little bit and they're able to protect them. Uh, but the majority of the peptides that we're talking about, they, they, they occur naturally in the body. So the pharmaceutical industry is trying to capitalize on them, but the reality is, uh, it's going to be real hard because these are naturally occurring in the body.

[01:04:27] Uh, that's it for today. So tomorrow we have a really, really good show too. You're going to want a tune in. Um, we've got a scientist who's a very, very, uh, profound thinker. Within the anti agent community. Uh, he is, uh, with the buck Institute, and he will be coming on tomorrow and we're going to be talking about an interesting molecule, uh, that is readily available over the counter.

[01:04:50] And it's ability to, uh. Help you age better and let's face it. That's my goal too. I want to age better as well. That's it for today's super human radio. Don't [01:05:00] forget to share the show. Tell your friends about the show. Help the superhuman nation grow because the more people we reach, the more people we can help.

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