[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to another episode of super human radio. Today is February 28th, 2020. This is usually the last day of a, of the February month. Uh, but this is leap year, so we have one more day. Tomorrow night. I'm taking Alisa out on date night. Maybe she'll propose, who knows. Anyway, uh, I wanna thank our title sponsor.

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[00:01:01] And when you taste them, you will find out why that is. Um. Cancer is an interesting thing. We are still seeing lots of cancer in our population today, and, uh, when people don't find answers at their doctors, they go looking for answers on their own. Uh, my guest today is just such a person and he is a doctor Al Danburg.

[00:01:25] Oh, I didn't let you can bring them in here. Sorry about that. Here he comes. How you doing, dr Dan Burke?

[00:01:31] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:01:31] I am great. Actually.

[00:01:33] Carl Lanore: [00:01:33] You don't look like somebody who has cancer. I have to. So the first, the first thing I expected after reading some of your stuff and hearing your story was to see somebody who was kind of withered and you know, not, not doing well, but.

[00:01:46] You were given pretty much a death sentence a couple of years ago, right?

[00:01:49] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:01:49] I was

[00:01:50] Carl Lanore: [00:01:50] talking about that. What kind of cancer and what'd your doc, what'd your oncologist tell you?

[00:01:54] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:01:54] You want me to tell you how I discovered I was sick?

[00:01:56] Carl Lanore: [00:01:56] Yes, please.

[00:01:58] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:01:58] So first of all, I [00:02:00] started that, let's go back even a little further.

[00:02:01] I started a, um, a primal lifestyle and a paleo type diet when I was about 66 years old. 

[00:02:10] Carl Lanore: [00:02:10] when you say primal, you're talking about Arjun is Vonda planets. Uh,

[00:02:15] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:02:15] well, I'm, I'm talking about like a Mark systems primal diet, basically a paleo type diet, um, with a paleo lifestyle, meaning or primal lifestyle, mainly good exercise, aerobic, as well as intensive training.

[00:02:31] Um, uh. Actually good sleep. I'm good. May be good. Stress control, maybe not. That was always an issue with me, but basically I thought I was the poster boy for a, a 71 year old, uh, primal lifestyle guy. So from the age of 66 when I started this, so the age of 71 I was doing quite well. Um. At 66 I weighed [00:03:00] 185 or so pounds.

[00:03:03] By the time I got into this kind of eating lifestyle, I dropped 30 some pounds and I've felt good. Lots of energy. I was writing, I was. In my active practice of periodontics. I hadn't had been a periodontist until I retired two years ago for 44 years. I was doing a lot of seminars and lectures and so, and incorporating all of this in the way I treated my periodontal patients.

[00:03:28] So in April, 2018 thinking I was extremely healthy. I was lecturing at the paleo FX meeting in Austin and talking about my. Paleo lifestyle and how it helped mouth and issues. And normally when I travel, um, I walk a lot, especially when I go from airport to airport and I have time, like the Atlanta airport.

[00:03:53] I travel, walk from Concourse to Concourse, and I had this big heavy bag on my shoulder. Never is a problem, but I noticed [00:04:00] that when I was doing that, my shoulders started to hurt. Never happened that way in the past. So, um, I went to the, uh, um, meeting. I did my lecture, I went home and the soreness just continued.

[00:04:14] I thought I pulled a muscle, a rotator cuff issue. I don't know, but it w. Didn't really go away. Kind of transferred from my shoulder to my back and then it went to my chest and I thought, this is not right. It's several months now. So about August or so, I go to my normal physician who I've seen for 35 plus years, and um, he looked at me and said, yeah, something's going on.

[00:04:38] It hurts here. It hurts there. Um, let's do some chemistry. So we did some blood work. Everything was normal. Except my C reactive protein, my C reactive protein, which normally the HSC reactive protein for me was less than 0.5.

[00:04:54] Carl Lanore: [00:04:54] How high was yours?

[00:04:56] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:04:56] Yeah, so it was about four to five. [00:05:00] That's extremely high for me.

[00:05:02] And, um. We know from that mean it tells me that there's some kind of systemic inflammation. It doesn't tell me if it's cute, acute. It does tell me it's chronic. It doesn't tell me where it's coming from. Just something's not right. So we did an MRI and we do this MRI and, uh, my physician calls me on the phone.

[00:05:25] I'm smiling, but I wasn't smiling when he called. And he said, um, Al, do you want to come into the office and we'll talk or let's talk over the phone. I said, okay. Come on, talk over the phone. You said I'd be concerned if I were you. I think you either have lymphoma, leukemia, or multiple myeloma. Oh my God.

[00:05:48] These three doors I would never want to open and I didn't have any idea I was sick. I just had some pain. And he said, did you fall down some steps? Did [00:06:00] somebody beat you up? I said, no. What are you talking about? He says, the mr. I suggests that you have a vertebral fracture, a couple cracked ribs, a crack in your pelvis, and I'm saying, well, what is going on here?

[00:06:17] So my physician gets in touch with an oncologist. We do a variety of tests, including a pet scan. You know, it's a CT type of scan that identifies maybe cancer cells where they're located. Um. And the radiologist that reads the pet scan says, I have innumerable skeletal little lytic lesions in my bones.

[00:06:42] Now this cancer, which I'll tell you about in a moment, is a multiple form of multiple myeloma. And multiple myeloma can manifest in a lot of ways. And when it's defined, one of the definitions is how many holes in the bone that do you have? Because multiple myeloma, this [00:07:00] is a malignancy of plasma cells.

[00:07:02] It creates a lot of bone destruction, looking like a very severe case of osteoporosis. So generally the, the radiologist will call it a particular type of myeloma, but. With one lytic lesion or two lytic lesions or five lytic lesions. He said I had enumerable lytic lesions. If you looked at my bone scan, it looked like Swiss cheese everywhere.

[00:07:30] So my body, my bone skeleton was not supporting my body weight and I was getting pathological fractures, which I didn't even know of is

[00:07:39] Carl Lanore: [00:07:39] carrying that bag that day.

[00:07:41] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:07:41] Exactly. Exactly. So, so he comes up with a diagnosis, a variety of other tests, and a, and a massive plasmas and malignant plasma cells on the side of my spine, a soft tissue mass.

[00:07:56] So he comes up with a diagnosis of what's called [00:08:00] IgG, a Kappa light chain, multiple myeloma with innumerable skeletal lytic lesions. Now

[00:08:10] Carl Lanore: [00:08:10] has the IGA come from the, uh, immune

[00:08:14] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:08:14] antibody? It's a particular antibody that is, it's creating the malignancy in the plasma cells. Wow. So, so he says, um. I need you to start chemotherapy immediately.

[00:08:31] We'll probably do, um, some I the bisphosphonates to try to strengthen your bone and then see where we go. And I said, Oh, wait a minute. Am I going to be treated? He said, well, you're going to go into remission, but your disease, your cancer is incurable. So I said. And now my ma, my wife and my adult children are there to hear what's going on.

[00:08:58] Now this is [00:09:00] a shock, right? I mean, so,

[00:09:02] Carl Lanore: [00:09:02] so could, based on what he's saying is. We can treat you, but we can't fix you. It's just going to keep coming back.

[00:09:09] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:09:09] Right? So here's what he says. He says, the chemotherapy will go, we'll put you into remission, and then you'll be better, and then it won't work anymore. So we'll have to give you.

[00:09:21] Chemotherapy again, but it'll be a different cocktail, more caustic, because the original chemotherapy wouldn't work anymore.

[00:09:28] Carl Lanore: [00:09:28] Because, because the cancer cell from, from a hormetic effect is becoming stronger each . Right. Sure.

[00:09:35] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:09:35] And, and more invasive. So, so it's going to be a new caustic. A cocktail and then eventually those cocktails won't work and I will die from the complications of multiple myeloma.

[00:09:51] Carl Lanore: [00:09:51] prognosis is for whatever period of time you're able to live, you're going to really be miserable and you're going back.

[00:09:58] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:09:58] And that's the point. And I, I [00:10:00] discuss it candidly with him. He said, and I said, does this mean my quality of life is going to go downhill as I'm being treated? And he said, most likely that is going to happen.

[00:10:11] So I said, well, wait a second. My quality of life is everything to me. So if I'm going to live one month with the quality of life or six years declining and becoming degenerative and looking like the cancer patients that are in this cancer clinic, I'm not opting for that. So he totally agreed with me and he said, under the circumstances, I agree with you.

[00:10:36] Well, let's not do chemotherapy.

[00:10:38] Carl Lanore: [00:10:38] And I said, but how long are you going to live now?

[00:10:41] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:10:41] I would have three to six months to live.

[00:10:45] Carl Lanore: [00:10:45] How would go was that

[00:10:47] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:10:47] September of 2018 wow. So I said to him. I need to do some research. Now I'm a geeky guy, so I'm doing some research and I'm trying to create [00:11:00] some protocols.

[00:11:01] I'm getting in touch with some integrative physicians. I know most of my research is from pub med, and I go from there and I try to understand what's being done in the medical communities around the world in an unconventional way. To maybe help my cancer

[00:11:21] Carl Lanore: [00:11:21] and let, let's define unconventional for, for those people out there, unconventional ends up being conventional when it works for enough people, and then the medical orthodoxy goes, Oh, we should pay attention to this.

[00:11:34] You know, I, when you say unconventional, people think you're talking about voodoo or. You know, or something risque. It's like it. No unconventional math methods of treating diseases are often water found on the fringes where the patients are driving the narrative because the doctors have no more answers.

[00:11:54] So the patients are looking and going, Hey, I read a study. What about this? Well, that's very unconventional. Yeah, but can [00:12:00] we do it.

[00:12:01] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:12:01] Correct. So basically what that means is these unconventional methods maybe have some case studies, but they've never been proven through a scientific or medical, um, program.

[00:12:15] Um. To, to identify a scientific method to identify this works because we have controls, and if you don't do it, it doesn't work. If you do do it does work, and therefore it's proven. Well, first of all, you're not going to prove cancer medications in living humans. Because the institutional review boards would never approve that because of the people that were here.

[00:12:39] The control would be dying. The experimental people would be living

[00:12:44] Carl Lanore: [00:12:44] in the wrong group,

[00:12:45] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:12:45] right? Right. So it's never going to happen in the scientific world. So it has to be a number of case studies that are successful, and then they start to do it in a more specific manner. And that's where I am. So [00:13:00] I am investigating methods that I

[00:13:04] Find makes sense to heal my body, so I'm not doing anything, like you said, voodoo or, or we're just totally experimental. I am doing things that have literally been shown to heal the body. Because cancer is not a disease of the genetic makeup of the cell as much as it is the actual, um, mitochondrial dysfunction of the cells and the metabolic dysfunction in our basic eating habits and lifestyle.

[00:13:42] It's all epigenetic drive being the cancer cell. So what I did was start to identify a diet that I needed to maintain. For good nutrition. I needed to understand the support of my guts because [00:14:00] I'm very interested and I've done lots of research even before I had cancer, about gut dysbiosis and the the health of the gut membrane and the manifestation of all chronic diseases.

[00:14:12] And certainly cancer is a chronic disease as well as periodontal disease. So I'm implicating periodontal disease as well as cancer in this . Dysbiosis in the gut, so I knew that I needed to make sure my gut was very healthy. That's part of my protocol. I certainly knew that I needed to support my immune system and did some research with some herbal medications that are.

[00:14:35] Traditionally known for support the immune system that became part of my protocol and understanding my bone lytic lesions, which have been my biggest problem because I started off with all these holes in my bone and a very, um, uh. Unstable skeleton.

[00:14:55] Carl Lanore: [00:14:55] So

[00:14:55] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:14:55] I wanted to make sure if I could, if I could strengthen [00:15:00] the bone itself.

[00:15:01] And I did that as a protocol and I started to utilize pulsed electromagnetic field therapy, which has been shown in medicines and many peer reviewed research to support and help. With osteoporosis.

[00:15:17] Carl Lanore: [00:15:17] In fact, in fact, when, when you have a, when you have a really bad break, like let's say you break a bone in your cervical spine, they'll send you home with a, a PEMF unit that is a medical device and paid for insurance.

[00:15:31] That you use twice a day because it speeds up the remineralization and bone knitting so that it heals bone fast.

[00:15:38] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:15:38] Yes, yes. So

[00:15:40] Carl Lanore: [00:15:40] I

[00:15:40] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:15:40] started to do this research in pulse electromagnetic field therapy and thought, well, I'm only trying to connect the dots here. I'm thinking, well, these are lesions in my bone.

[00:15:51] Maybe they will help. It also helps with . Soft tissue healing. It helps with mitochondrial dysfunction.

[00:15:57] Carl Lanore: [00:15:57] So, so I don't, I don't like to take notes during a show. I [00:16:00] like to just throw questions out. So I'm the, I don't know what, what, uh, what frequency are you using for your PMF device? Just

[00:16:07] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:16:07] curious. So the frequent, I'm using a mat that is supplied by a company called pure wave.

[00:16:13] Um, now it is a QRS mat. It is low frequency. Um, the Hertz runs from a variety of. Frequencies of zero to maybe 10,000. Um, it is pulsed and there is some nice research with this type of mat and cancer in Germany. The mat is manufactured in Germany. And of course, you know that reporting benefits are totally different if you report them in the United States because of FDA regulations, what you can say, and Germany, which probably is doing some great research on it, but they don't have the

[00:16:55] Regulations of what they can say and what they can say. So some of the studies I was reading [00:17:00] in the German research with the mat and it was impressive. So it is a low frequency.

[00:17:06] Carl Lanore: [00:17:06] In fact, there's a, there's a couple of studies out there that I found when I was working at the think tank at quest nutrition several years ago.

[00:17:14] And we were looking at PMF at the time for a variety of reasons. And I found actual studies that show. That, uh, frequencies very close, close to the, uh, the sh shout Schumann wave, uh, resonance Schumann like, um, 7.6 Hertz up to like 18 or 19 Hertz, which is what, what pulsates out of the core of the earth.

[00:17:38] If you're in a pristine environment, actually have the ability. Uh, to, to kill cancer cells.

[00:17:45] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:17:45] Well, this is the exciting thing. And so this mat basically mimics some of the magnetic frequencies of the earth, but of course, it's electromagnetic and it is low and it is harmonic. And there are a lot of [00:18:00] mats that actually produce dirty electromagnetic fields along with the healthier.

[00:18:05] Low frequency, pulse, electromagnetic field. So this mat actually has some filters to prevent that. So I'm very comfortable with the mat I'm using. So are there any,

[00:18:15] Carl Lanore: [00:18:15] are there any beneficial effects that you can find? Cause I've found studies that show that there are harmful effects. Well, maybe not harmful.

[00:18:22] But there are unwanted effects to the microbiota from some of these, uh, uh, higher frequencies we now use in routers and cell phones. Oh, absolutely. Are there beneficial effects from using wave wave forms that are closer to the Schumann resonance?

[00:18:36] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:18:36] Yes. And here's the beautiful thing. What I, what I'm also being benefited by, I mean.

[00:18:43] We get sick because we are overloaded with a variety of toxic irritants to our body. So the dirty electromagnetic fields that are emanating from this screen that I'm you and I are talking with are actually affecting my cells right now. But when I'm [00:19:00] using the mat, and I use it four times a day, and I'll give you all the details if you want in a moment, but when I'm using the mat, it neutralizes.

[00:19:08] The damage from the dirty electromagnetic fields. So my mat, which again is a daily. Therapeutic protocol that I use is benefiting me by neutralizing the damage from all the dirty electromagnetic fields I'm getting all the time. In addition, it's improving my calcium channeling between cells, which is critical.

[00:19:31] It's improving my mitochondria. The ATP production from protein complex was one, two, three, four, all the way, the five to produce the ATP. And it is healing theoretically, bone cells, soft tissue cells, and a whole lot of other things that we don't even know. So I am excited about this. Also as my protocol.

[00:19:54] So I've incorporated all of these different areas of unconventional [00:20:00] protocols. And I started doing that and I saw my oncologist every month. Maybe every two weeks in the beginning, and I was staying stable. I was not going into remission. I've never been in remission. I, but my blood chemistries were stable, my cancer disease was there, but it wasn't getting worse.

[00:20:24] And that quality of my life stayed good. I didn't get sick.

[00:20:28] Carl Lanore: [00:20:28] You didn't become fragile and start to lose muscle mass and no,

[00:20:32] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:20:32] no, not at all. But I was fragile and that's the real down. Um, the, the, the real problems that I experienced, my, my. My setbacks were based on my skeletal frame. So what happened was all the blood chemistry's my mass, my muscle mass, everything was doing basically stable, um, with the, the testing that they were doing.

[00:20:59] But [00:21:00] I was developing pathological fractures. So after, um. Sometime in, um, um, the end of 2018, I had another vertebral pathological fracture that was so severe I couldn't get out of bed and I was rushed to the emergency room and they had to do, and I had to do some conventional therapy. They had to do some radiation because one of the.

[00:21:29] Um, the, the masses of malignant plasma cells were actually pressing on my spinal cord and I was in excruciating pain and couldn't walk. So I had to have that treatment. Um, just to relieve the pain and then that area had to heal. But I continue with my unconventional protocols, no chemotherapy. And then I had another series of pathological fractures when I was in the bathroom.

[00:21:54] And this was, um, maybe, uh, October of [00:22:00] 2019. When I was in the bathroom August maybe of 2019 I was in the bathroom and I was brushing my teeth and I was being very careful, but I twisted and I, my foot was flat on the ground, but I twisted my body and literally fractured my right femur and I collapsed to the ground.

[00:22:21] Oh my, my, my, when I collapsed, I broke two more ribs and completely fractured my right humerus. Now. The pain was excruciating, and, and I, I thought I was going to die. I mean, I actually went into hospice after that. Um, but. I recovered, I healed. Well,

[00:22:44] Carl Lanore: [00:22:44] you recovered because you continued the therapies that you, the unconventional therapies that you will use.

[00:22:49] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:22:49] Once I was able to get to that.

[00:22:50] Carl Lanore: [00:22:50] Yeah. And people may be saying, doc, why didn't you just do the standard of care? You wouldn't have been any better shape.

[00:22:58] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:22:58] No, no. It [00:23:00] wouldn't have been in any better shape. And by the way. If I had bisphosphonates through my body, number one, it damaged it. It cleared through the kidneys so it could damage my kidneys, which automatically would have been more susceptible to the multiple myeloma

[00:23:15] Carl Lanore: [00:23:15] women who use bisphosphonates dif, a large number of them develop esophageal cancer.

[00:23:22] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:23:22] What I was going to

[00:23:23] Carl Lanore: [00:23:23] share, it actually has it there. There's some sort of a. A curve of bisphosphonates because while it's remineralizing some bone, as you know, as being a doctor of dentistry, it seems to take calcium out of the jaw and makes the jaw collapse.

[00:23:40] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:23:40] Well, here's what happens with the jaw and, and here's what's concerned me about this drug.

[00:23:46] And all that knowledge only came after it was being used in humans. And that is that the bisphosphonates. Literally stops the metabolism of the bone, so you're not getting the [00:24:00] bone turnover rate down, but it doesn't rebuild either. So it's, it kind of goes into a state of, of, um, fragility, but it's not getting better or not getting worse, and it's getting more brittle.

[00:24:16] So people that are on bisphosphonates may not, may not have the holes growing, but if they hit their bone, they've, they shatter, like Humpty Dumpty falling off of the wall. Right? So in the jaw, what happens is with this fossa, especially Ivy bisphosphonates on a, in a certain, very small, but still.

[00:24:38] Significant proportion of people. It changes the metabolism of the bone in the jaw. And if a person has to have an extraction, let's say in the jaw, and that tooth is removed, the bone won't heal in the socket, and the jaw can start to become necrotic. And I never saw a patient like that, but I [00:25:00] had a close.

[00:25:01] Friend who was an oral surgeon told me several of his stories where they even had extracted a tooth on a patient, didn't know what the complications yet. This was before all the information of Val phosphate in the phenomena, Fosamax and and what it could do to the jaw. The lady lost her upper jaw because it never could heal.

[00:25:23] Now. I mean, these are excruciating.

[00:25:25] Carl Lanore: [00:25:25] These are, these are not, these are called

[00:25:29] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:25:29] side effects from the medical pro. This is not a side effect. When you have debilitating diseases that are side effects, they're not side effects or exam sample. If I wanted chemo therapy. Um, I could have developed lots of damage in my gut, mucosal tissues and in my mouth called mucositis.

[00:25:53] I would have lots of pain and all SIRS. It would be difficult to eat or swallow. These are [00:26:00] very ,

[00:26:01] Carl Lanore: [00:26:01] several, several chemos, like, uh, SIS, plantain, for instance, which is a, which is a highly used a form of chemo. Destroys your kidneys. Many of the people who have chemotherapy using CIS plantain don't die from cancer.

[00:26:18] They end up dying from complications of using that. This is planted. Yes. And, and, and the interesting thing about that is when the medical orthodoxy scores things, so you come in. You have a cancer, they, they, they administered this plant a few times. You go home, three years later, you die from complications related to kidney failure.

[00:26:40] They put you down as a wind for cancer. While you didn't die from cancer, he didn't die. He died from the treatment, but he didn't die from cancer. So it artificially inflates the success of some of these chemotherapies.

[00:26:53] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:26:53] We're talking about archaic ways of treating people. And th, and this is. Not the way I wanted to go.

[00:27:00] [00:26:59] I didn't want to live my life with a decrease in quality of life, and I wanted to have control of my body's healing. So it never made sense to me to put chemicals in my body that would destroy my immune system when my immune system was all ready compromised because my cancer is a cancer of plasma cells, which produces the antibodies that creates my immune system.

[00:27:22] So. It made no sense. So I did not elect to do that. I never elected to do that. Unfortunately, I never had control of my bone structure and I never was able to heal these lesions in my bones. So I've always now been very fragile and I have to be very careful about having twists or were. Or, um,

[00:27:47] Carl Lanore: [00:27:47] common things that people do.

[00:27:48] Yeah. Common things that people do could lead to a fracture for you.

[00:27:51] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:27:51] For me. Yeah. And that's actually was happening. And then I had another fracture on my left femur, so I had issues with that and I had to go through rehab and, [00:28:00] but all, all basically all of that being said. Other than it was excruciatingly painful when I had the experience and I literally was in hospice because it was so bad.

[00:28:13] My quality of life for the most part has been good. I've not been on can this chemical damaging caustic drugs to destroy my immune system so. I've felt great and I feel crate and I'm healthier and feeling better today than I was when I was diagnosed now

[00:28:32] Carl Lanore: [00:28:32] probably because you feel so great. You have to keep reminding yourself that you're fragile, that you have to be careful.

[00:28:37] Oh yes.

[00:28:38] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:28:38] Oh yeah. Yeah, I

[00:28:39] Carl Lanore: [00:28:39] do. I can't fly. I have to ask you a couple of questions. So, um. Because we're going to, when we take our break, when we come back, we're going to talk about the Economo diet as an addition. Cause there's a lot of people out there who would say that's reckless to eat. Meat. Meat gives you cancer and you know, all that sort of stuff.

[00:28:55] So do you have a strategy? Have you discovered [00:29:00] anything new that you feel could help remineralize? Re mineral arise? You try saying it your bone?

[00:29:06] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:29:06] Well, what I did unconventionally was not working. I was, everything I was doing was working for everything else I was being monitored for, with the chemistries that the malignant cells, they were not getting worse.

[00:29:21] They were not getting much better, but they were not getting worse. It was not progressing. And again, which is critical. My quality of life never was compromised other than when I had the fractures. But, but, um, my physician. Came up with some thoughts because we did not do and would not do chemotherapy.

[00:29:41] The FDA had approved recently a type of immunotherapy, which is not chemotherapy. It is a type of human derived monoclonal antibody that actually is specific for my malignant plasma cells. [00:30:00] And if I could take this medicine. Then it could attack my plasma cells that were malignant and nothing else. Kill these cells and help improve my multiple myeloma, maybe improve my bone structure.

[00:30:19] And there also is a monoclonal antibody that can be used to help support my bone structure. So I'm taking these two immunotherapies that I started about four months ago. Um. I just want to say that number one, what I'm doing, I don't recommend anybody else to do. It's just for me. It is probably working nicely for me.

[00:30:43] It may not work well for me later on, and it certainly may not work well for anybody else, but it's working fine for me. The other thing is I don't want anybody to think that I've conventional medicine is to be thrown out. The, the, the, uh, the [00:31:00] options that you have and only go routes that are unconventional.

[00:31:04] I have integrated conventional as well as unconventional treatment. I am using immunotherapy, which is conventional, although it's newly developed, it's still conventional, and my oncologist has not only accepted, he recommended I do that, and I. Arrange to do these procedures without doing any chemotherapy.

[00:31:26] So I'm again, trying to integrate the protocols that make sense to me that will not destroy my body, will not decrease my immune system and only support my healing process. So

[00:31:39] Carl Lanore: [00:31:39] are you seeing any progress or any indicators of  for your bones.

[00:31:44] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:31:44] Yes. So now that I've done the AMS, my immunotherapy is a continuous process now.

[00:31:50] So now that I started the immunotherapy four months ago, the rest of the chemistries that were doing well are not only doing well, they're getting better [00:32:00] now. As far as my bone structure, we've not done any new testing to see if the osteolytic lesions are starting to develop osteoclastic activity or, or re mineralization, so that maybe the holes are getting smaller.

[00:32:17] I don't know that yet. Um, so I'm still very careful about that, but. Basically, I am feeling good. My energy level is phenomenal, but I had been feeling well with all the other stuff that I was doing without the immunotherapy, but the immunotherapy, I think maybe with everything else I'm doing could throw me into remission and maybe even cure this disease that is conventionally labeled as an incurable bone marrow cancer.

[00:32:48] Carl Lanore: [00:32:48] And so, I mean, you've already beat the odds right. Yes. According to the doctors, you should have been dead a couple of years ago, so you've already beat the odds. You look good. Um, what are you doing. For exercise.

[00:33:00] [00:32:59] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:32:59] Yes. So exercise is very important. Um, I started, um, physical therapy in my, in the hospital after my fracture, my right femur, and then in home physical therapy, uh, that I still am doing, so that we're starting to work with the, the, um.

[00:33:18] Um, th the strength of the muscles and my flexibility, of course, I still had this broken, right, humorous. It never was set. So it looks like I have an extra elbow where my biceps are, only because my humerus is broken in half and it healed with a callus. So it's not a straight bone anymore.

[00:33:38] Carl Lanore: [00:33:38] I have one of those.

[00:33:39] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:33:39] Yeah. So, so, so I have some restriction in movement in my right arm, so I'm working with that. Now. I'm getting to go outside and walk. I use a a rollator or a Walker just to make sure that if I yet support my body so I don't fall. If I fell on the ground, it would be.

[00:33:58] Carl Lanore: [00:33:58] Disaster. Devastating.

[00:34:00] [00:34:00] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:34:00] Yeah. Devastating.

[00:34:01] So I use that. I walk, um, I'm starting to do some more muscle exercising and muscle strengthening. So we're going to be probably getting a in home gym, you know, one of these compact in home gyms just to do some muscle strengthening exercises, endurance exercises by walking. And hopefully I'll get back to.

[00:34:27] What I would consider a relatively healthy looking and feeling guy.

[00:34:32] Carl Lanore: [00:34:32] Have you looked at blood flow restriction to allow you to increase protein synthesis without extra weight?

[00:34:40] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:34:40] No. Um, I've actually read an article about that recently, but no, I haven't gotten it.

[00:34:46] Carl Lanore: [00:34:46] We, we have the guy, uh, so I have a sponsor and, uh, and, and dr J James stray Gunderson is a leader in this field.

[00:34:57] Uh, he actually has [00:35:00] designed a unit that, that looks and works exactly like the one that Japanese used back in 2006 when they invented katsu. And it's basically a blood pressure cuff with a detachable, uh, bulb. And so you blow each one of them up. So, you know, you know, 450 milligrams of mercury on each arm and whatever, and leg, and just walking.

[00:35:24] Just walking gives the muscles and the legs. Such an amazing pump and scientists. Science has shown that it grows bustle without added weight. It's something that you should consider.

[00:35:37] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:35:37] Oh, that's a very interesting, yeah, that's a very interesting, what

[00:35:40] Carl Lanore: [00:35:40] about, what about a non weight bearing? Things like in the pool, assuming it's not a chlorinated pool, but instead something like Baquacil or salt water.

[00:35:49] What about getting in the pool because that, that provides resistance without waking up

[00:35:53] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:35:53] that has been recommended. Um, access to something like that is always my issue.

[00:36:00] [00:36:00] Carl Lanore: [00:36:00] Chlorine, not chlorine, because chlorine will, right, right,

[00:36:02] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:36:02] right. We don't want chlorine water, but, um, uh, I don't know. I had to sell my car because I couldn't drive.

[00:36:11] And so my wife, um, drives me where I needed to go to. So we have some limitations in that regard. And, uh, I can't do things like France. I can't fly in an airplane that, that would never be a possibility.

[00:36:25] Carl Lanore: [00:36:25] So why? Because of the pressurization or just because the, the

[00:36:28] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:36:28] low, because the potential for me to just break a body part

[00:36:32] Carl Lanore: [00:36:32] where they land hard.

[00:36:33] Yeah. You'd fractures

[00:36:34] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:36:34] hard.

[00:36:35] Carl Lanore: [00:36:35] I'd play bar spine. I

[00:36:37] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:36:37] couldn't reach above to get my bags. My bags would be too heavy. I probably couldn't carry them. Um, if somebody is pushing me and hits me with something, I could fracture. I mean it, it's scary. This is where I am right now and maybe I'll get better as far as the bone structure is concerned or not.

[00:36:55] And that's not really critical for my quality of life. Um, if I never [00:37:00] flying an airplane again, not a big deal. So, um, actually I've been doing some seminars. I actually was doing a couple of seminars at the international Academy of oral medicine and toxicology, but I did it through a zoom broadcast, which was kind of wild and crazy, and I was just asked to do a zoom broadcast for the, um, Kito con.

[00:37:23] Um, uh, summit in, um, I think June of this year, we're

[00:37:29] Carl Lanore: [00:37:29] kind of metabolic, metabolic, uh,

[00:37:32] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:37:32] Watsco, Quito con, I think it's different. Okay. ETO, C, O. N. yeah. And, um, I that they're trying to arrange for me to do a live zoom presentation for them. I'll sit in my house and they'll. Gathering the meeting room and we'll have this conversation.

[00:37:49] So it's kind of interesting that I'm able to do that. I can't see patients. So I retired in September of 2018 when I had the diagnosis. [00:38:00] Um, but I do Skype consultations all over the world with patients. Actually, now that I'm talking about cancer and what I'm doing, I'm getting a lot of people wanting information about how I'm doing what I'm doing, rather than how.

[00:38:12] Can I heal my gut to heal my mouth? Although I was doing quite a number of consultations regarding that.

[00:38:19] Carl Lanore: [00:38:19] Um, your website is dr dannenberg.com. D. a. N. E. N. B. E. R. G.

[00:38:26] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:38:26] yeah. Yeah.

[00:38:27] Carl Lanore: [00:38:27] You, you have a book? Uh, yes. Did I spell it right? D a N.

[00:38:32] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:38:32] Yes, but their website is co is spelled D, R for doctor, dr D, a N E N, B E, R, G.

[00:38:39] dr dannenberg.com

[00:38:40] Carl Lanore: [00:38:40] and you have a book that talks about oral hygiene and gut microbiome and so on. Just touch on that real quick before we

[00:38:47] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:38:47] get 2017 well, before all this happened to me. 2017 I publish it, put out the book, um, released the book called crazy good living that's on Amazon and any [00:39:00] bookseller around.

[00:39:01] And it basically talks about a healthy diet and it creates a healthy gut microbiome that affects the mouth. And one of the interesting things is, you know, you can go to the dentist and have bleeding gums and you're brushing and flossing all the time, and they're. Telling you, well, you're not brushing or flossing, right?

[00:39:22] But you know you're brushing and flossing, right? But you still have bleeding gums. Why? Well, it's not because you're not brushing or not flossing, right? That's insignificant. What's significant is that you're not eating right. Your lifestyle is not right, and you're damaging your gut garden of bacteria, and when this garden, the bacteria in your gut is damaged, it changes the bacteria in your mouth.

[00:39:50] It's not vice versa. Generally it's the gut bacteria that affects your immune system, that affects the way your mouth [00:40:00] back to your, your grow, and then once your mouth back to your, you can get out of whack and you're eating the wrong foods anyhow. You start to feed the pathological bacteria in your mouth and that starts the gum disease and tooth decay.

[00:40:16] If you have a healthy gut, you will not have an unhealthy mouth. Even if you're not brushing or flossing, right. And we find that when scientists have looked at skeletal remains of humans from 10,000 to 20,000 years ago, they

[00:40:36] Carl Lanore: [00:40:36] had no,

[00:40:39] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:40:39] they have hardly no damage in the jaw bone, but they had much calculus or tartar around the roots of the teeth.

[00:40:47] This is the calcified bacteria. The calcified plaque, they could see the calcified plaque, but they didn't have the damage to the bone. And the reason why the plaque didn't cause gum disease or tooth decay [00:41:00] was that the bacteria were in a state of balance. They were not pathologic. They were protective.

[00:41:07] The biofilm around the mouth, the dental plaque that most dentists and hygienists want you to scrub off completely is actually a protective. Biofilm in the body. You don't want to scrub the plaque off. You want to remove unhealthy plaque. If you have unhealthy plaque,

[00:41:26] Carl Lanore: [00:41:26] how do you, how do, how do you discern the unhealthy, healthy?

[00:41:29] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:41:29] You can discern unhealthy plaque, number one, if you have an unhealthy gut gut, but you may not know that. So certainly if you had any bleeding in the gum. At all when you brush or flaws, you have periodontal disease

[00:41:43] Carl Lanore: [00:41:43] and you can smell that. I have friends.

[00:41:45] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:41:45] Oh

[00:41:46] Carl Lanore: [00:41:46] yeah. I have to, like when I'm talking to them at the gym, I literally have to take a step back.

[00:41:51] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:41:51] Yeah, cause that's hard. Advanced already. That's advanced. But yes. So there was a study that was done in [00:42:00] 2010 or eight or something that was published that showed, and they studied a bunch of college students, but it showed that they, that the average us adult. Has approximately nine or approximately 92% of the average us adults have some gum inflammation, meaning they have some periodontal disease.

[00:42:22] 92% yeah. That's amazing. That's epidemic. 47% of adults in a different study. Have active periodontitis. That's gum disease that has progressed into the Jawbone. The cane, the bone, 47% it's almost one out of two people. If you're 65 years or older, that number rises to 70% have active periodontal disease, destroying the bone around the roots of the teeth.

[00:42:53] That gets into the systemic circulation and creates all kinds of diseases. Just like. [00:43:00] A gut infection like gut dysbiosis creates a leaky gut. When you have periodontal disease and it gets into the blood, it causes a leaky gum pocket and the same biological results occur. Creating cardiovascular disease, rheumatoid arthritis, um, all timers, everything.

[00:43:21] So a leaky gut and a leaky periodontal pocket are very unhealthy, but you have to treat a leaky periodontal pocket and a leaky gut if we only keep the gum disease.

[00:43:33] Carl Lanore: [00:43:33] That's what people don't realize. It's one continuous path. It's right, your gum and your aid

[00:43:40] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:43:40] emanates from the gut. And once you get the, the inflammation, the chronic inflammation, the decreased immune system response from the gut damage, then pathways go through the entire body.

[00:43:53] And different organ systems can manifest different diseases based on your pre, uh, [00:44:00] um. Uh, J, uh, genetic predisposition. So got periodontal disease is a form of chronic disease. Cancer is a form of chronic disease. I can tell you when we have more conversation, why I think I develop multiple myeloma. And it wasn't just a few years ago, it was back to my dental school days.

[00:44:21] And I can tell you that I'm pretty sure that's. Hell it emanated, but it takes a long time for the disease to manifest,

[00:44:28] Carl Lanore: [00:44:28] and that's the problem. People want to be fixed now when it took 20 years to actually have the problems, but they just showed up. Now we're going to take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back with more of dr Dannenberg.

[00:44:39] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:44:39] This

[00:44:39] Carl Lanore: [00:44:39] is this superhuman channel.

[00:44:50] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:44:50] welcome back

[00:44:52] Carl Lanore: [00:44:52] talking with dr . I just want to let everybody know after the interview with dr Dannenberg, we're going to talk about [00:45:00] a way that you could protect yourself from the Cove at 19 a current Corona virus. Very, very simple. Believe it or not. And uh, actually on Tuesday we're doing a show with the Ryan.

[00:45:15] Smith from TaylorMade pharmacy, they actually have put together a peptide protocol that could be protective against any virus, including this one. But as a result of reading the protocol, it dawned on me, Oh my gosh, there's something people could be doing right now, right now to boost your protection against contracting this virus.

[00:45:37] And we'll talk about it later in the show. So stay tuned. So, dr Dannenberg, um. Talk about the diet, obviously. Well, no, let's go back and start with what you just said. So when did you, when do you think you were exposed to something that led to your

[00:45:53] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:45:53] yes, yes. So, um, being a geeky kind of guy, I wanted to try to figure out, although it [00:46:00] wouldn't have made any difference at this point, but what, what may be triggered my cancer, because like I said, at 66 I.

[00:46:10] Went to a primal type of lifestyle, eating a paleo type diet, everything was really healthy. How could I have started at the age of 66 and got cancer at the age of 71 well, it didn't work that way, sadly enough. Um, I probably had cancer. Way, way, way, way back. It just didn't manifest yet. As a matter of fact, my oncologists did say that the reason, not only did I have no symptoms other than the little soreness I had, and then the fact that I maintain a good quality of life after that with my onions.

[00:46:47] Conventional treatment is that I did lead a healthy lifestyle and did eat a healthier type of diet. Um, up until that. So what happened, I think was back in dental [00:47:00] school. Now, I went to dental school for four years, and then two years of graduate training to become a specialist in periodontics or gum disease.

[00:47:09] So that six year period, which was continuous, um. Consecutive years, a continuous years. I, I was exposed to two very toxic substances all the time. Mercury. I was, I was exposed. Well, the first thing was. A low dose ionizing radiation, which is dental x-ray machines. So in the clinic that I was in in my dental school, it was a new fangled clinic where the instructors came to the students that Susan didn't have to go to different clinic areas.

[00:47:46] And each clinic area had a series of modules with a series of students and they, they shared an extra unit and that's why there were many x-ray units in, in the clinic. And [00:48:00] I didn't know for sure if I was walking around and an X Ray machine was. On or off, you don't know that. You don't smell it or see it or feel it.

[00:48:11] Um, when I was taking x-rays on patients, I'm not sure how protected I was at that time. We didn't wear badges to identify if we had over radiated ourselves. I don't know how well the machines were collimated or filtered properly to remove excess radiation from disseminating. I didn't know that. But I do know I was exposed for six years to these dental x-ray machines.

[00:48:38] The other thing is, and low dose radiation ionizing radiation is a cause of malignant cancer cells in plasma cells. It will cause a plasma cell to become malignant. The other thing is, like you just mentioned. Amount, mercury. We work trained, sadly enough, dental schools still trained students this way today, [00:49:00] but we were trained to place amalgam restorations.

[00:49:03] They're called silver restorations, but they're not silver. They are mercury restorations. They contain a lot of mercury. We mixed Frymark URI, and if you know what free mercury looks like, . Like little metal balls that little re roll

[00:49:18] Carl Lanore: [00:49:18] around. Like when I was a kid, I found a a large thermometer in the basement and I broke it and I took it to school, and this is, you know, this is in the 60s I took it to school and we dropped it on the floor and it's splattered.

[00:49:30] Then we gathered it all back together and

[00:49:32] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:49:32] it ended up, and it's amazing how it. Combines together, it's like science fiction and we played with free market where you mixed free mercury with a powder to make it an amalgam and then it congealed and then you squeezed out excess free mercury so that you would only have the congealed mercury in the powder and those little balls of mercury from the squeeze.

[00:49:56] Cause I like cheese cause we threw on the ground. [00:50:00] Everybody did it, and this free mercury eventually disappeared because it vaporized

[00:50:05] Carl Lanore: [00:50:05] and the entire

[00:50:06] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:50:06] dental clinic is a toxic environment. We never knew that every dental school in America, everywhere that used. Mercury did the same thing and had an a toxic environment that probably was as toxic as any toxic industry you can think of in those days.

[00:50:28] I

[00:50:28] Carl Lanore: [00:50:28] still have amalgam fillings in my mouth. What do you think about that bad idea.

[00:50:33] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:50:33] Well, first of all, I would never put an amalgam filling in a person's mouth today and I wouldn't go into an office that is placing amalgam fillings. And I certainly, if I were to be looking for a dentist and if the dentist still was placing amalgam fillings in teeth, I would never go to that dentist.

[00:50:52] Now, on the other hand, should you remove the amalgam fillings? It is true. That the free mercury is constantly [00:51:00] being vaporized from the filling, even though the, the FDA says there's no harm. Um, believe me, there's harm and potential harm because it's a highly toxic element. I mean, you know, you're not going to drink water with lead.

[00:51:16] You're not going to certainly drink mercury or want to smell it, but your body is your to is constantly. Emitting some fumes of mercury constantly, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. You're chewing hard maybe, or you're grinding your teeth. Maybe you're releasing more than other times, but still it's constant.

[00:51:38] How much load of a toxic element can you sustain before your body gets sick? But so if you have existing mercury fillings, there is a question. If everything is good, if you don't have any. Chronic inflammatory markers like, uh, a highs, a C reactive protein, or any significant [00:52:00] issues of chronic disease, then maybe your mercury fillings, if they're not cracked and they're not leaking, if there's no new decay could stay there.

[00:52:10] I'm not sure. The fact is it's potentially hazardous and risky. If you were to remove the mercury fillings. Then they have to be removed correctly, or it's more harmful to

[00:52:23] Carl Lanore: [00:52:23] you

[00:52:24] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:52:24] for the dentist to drill out the filling of, vaporize everything immediately.

[00:52:29] Carl Lanore: [00:52:29] They have to have a special drill that has a vacuum head on it.

[00:52:33] They have to use a rubber dam, isolate the tooth, because otherwise, and you know, back in the day when they would press those mercury fillings in a little little pebble of it, sometimes wood would fall in your mouth and it would go down your throat. Then you just swallow it. Yeah. Because I have amalgam fillings.

[00:52:50] I eat a Brazil nut or two a day and I eat nuts regularly cause I want to bind it on the selenium. Yeah. I want to find that almost millennium.

[00:52:58] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:52:58] Yeah. Special. I [00:53:00] name is a good blonde binder. Chlorella is a good, um, uh, natural binder for mercury and other toxic substances. Yes. That is a possibility. Certainly if you're eating a healthy diet.

[00:53:13] And you're developing what's called your own, um, um, system of gluten  production. Then you're going to, um, literally. Neutralize the damage that is occurring. Your body can detoxify from mercury. When you have good antioxidant activities from what's called the NRF, two of the cells stimulating the glutathione to produce the, the antioxidants that are necessary for your body who define it is your antioxidant.

[00:53:50] That's what you need. Vitamin C is not the antioxidant and all these other supplements only stimulate your body to produce glutathione to be effective.

[00:53:59] Carl Lanore: [00:53:59] So [00:54:00] I was doing some research last night and before bed, I usually either watch family guy, so I can laugh before. I'm a huge proponent of believing that if you laugh before you go to sleep,

[00:54:09] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:54:09] that's great family.

[00:54:10] You guys are funny

[00:54:11] Carl Lanore: [00:54:11] shit. I know, I see. Thank you. Because it thinks I'm childish because I, like I said, you don't understand how intelligent family guy is.

[00:54:18] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:54:18] It is. It is a funny show.

[00:54:20] Carl Lanore: [00:54:20] Okay. So, or I read studies and so I've been doing a deep dive on glycine because since we don't eat organ or soft tissue, we don't eat the awful, we don't eat the connective tissue anymore.

[00:54:29] We're not getting the glycine in our diet and rodents and humans. Have a a requirement for glycine. It's a non essential amino acid, but it's a very important one. It has DNA protective effects, but one of the things it does do is it, it's a profound, it profoundly increases glutathione production, and so I've been using glycine as a sweetener.

[00:54:52] For years now. I wrote a blog about it about four or five years ago, like you don't need artificial sweetener. Just use glycine. And when I saw [00:55:00] this, I thought, Oh my God, people are they, in one of the studies I read, they estimated that that either 49 or 59% of the population is highly deficient in glycine, and it manifests itself in a variety of diseases, including cardiac disease.

[00:55:17] Well,

[00:55:17] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:55:17] glycine is critical. Your body needs to have collagenous material. That's why people are eating collagen peptides and supplements,

[00:55:25] Carl Lanore: [00:55:25] bone broth

[00:55:26] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:55:26] and bone broth. And of course we can get into that my diet, because that's part of what I'm

[00:55:30] Carl Lanore: [00:55:30] eating.

[00:55:32] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:55:32] But the important thing is that the , which is certainly in meat.

[00:55:38] As a protein needs to be balanced with glycine. And if you're only eating a meat diet and not getting the other amino acids to balance out, then you can have other problems. So definitely you

[00:55:52] Carl Lanore: [00:55:52] need, in fact, the, uh, the, the, um, quote unquote, um. Rapid aging effect of a high [00:56:00] protein diet has been implicated that it's a imbalance between  and glycine.

[00:56:05] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:56:05] Correct. Because a high protein diet, depending on how you define it, means too much meat and not. The fat or the Oregons or the Caladrius material. So you need to eat animals, but you need to eat nose to tail.

[00:56:21] Carl Lanore: [00:56:21] And that's how we did it back in. I mean, my grandfather used to make tripe and peas. He used to make the entire animal was used.

[00:56:30] Today. We all just give me the loin. I just want the loin. It's like, no,

[00:56:35] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:56:35] that's right. We, we've gotten to the point where we want it to be. Uh, low in fat, very, very tender. And that's it. So you want the Philemon Yon, but you don't want the fat. You don't want the Oregon's, you don't want the Krystle. You don't want a shoe, you just want to melt it in your mouth.

[00:56:53] And it's affected everything in our body.

[00:56:56] Carl Lanore: [00:56:56] Thank God I learned to eat from an Italian truck driver. [00:57:00] My father. Because I literally eat the ends of the chicken bones like a CIF, but chicken boats runs out this long. When I'm done with it, there's that much. Lisa laughs, I suck the marrow, I eat the, the Grizzle, I eat the cartilage, I eat it all.

[00:57:12] I eat all that stuff. I watched my father do that, and I'm sure that the way his father did it too. So let's talk about diet. Let's talk about diets. So people would say it's counterintuitive to have cancer and and eat red meat. What would you say to that?

[00:57:27] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:57:27] Well, that's the only, because you've read the studies that are observational studies that are not really defining what they're re they're studying.

[00:57:37] So the most recent study, and I think there was just a paper in the journal, uh, uh, JAMA journal of the American medical association, I believe, but several other publications that said red meat can cause cancer. Well, first of all. They're observational. They're only evaluating people that put a check Mark on a questionnaire.

[00:57:58] Yes, I eat red meat. [00:58:00] Well, first of all, what red meat are they eating? They're probably eating red meat. Yeah, it's spam or you know, fast food. Burger places below

[00:58:11] Carl Lanore: [00:58:11] hotdogs. We already know how

[00:58:14] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:58:14] chemically processed the meat is raised on grains and not grass. So the grains that the cattle cannot digest properly are creating them imaged.

[00:58:26] Um,

[00:58:27] Carl Lanore: [00:58:27] animals eating sick animals, we eating sick animals,

[00:58:30] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:58:30] animals that are actually injected with hormones and antibiotics to make them healthier and get fatter so they can slaughter them sooner because they're going to die from the diet that they're eating. So they're, that their bad sickness is in their meat and their fat, and now we're eating it and it's red meat and it's gonna kill us.

[00:58:49] And yeah, that's true. If you're eating that red meat, it's going to cause cancer and everything else. More than likely it's, it's unhealthy. It's part of the standard American diet.

[00:58:57] Carl Lanore: [00:58:57] There's one other thing that no one talks about that I actually [00:59:00] think has a bigger effect on the linkage between processed meats and their bad outcomes and the P population that eat processed meats, and that's high heat

[00:59:11] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [00:59:11] cooking.

[00:59:12] Hi, he cooking absolutely a problem, but also people that tend to eat red meat and conventionally raised animals and standard American diets are not exercising. Well, they're smoking. They're on. Doing other lifestyle habits that are definitely unhealthy and that is contributing to their disease. They're probably overweight and all of these things are not controlled for, and it's can't, you can't control for that.

[00:59:43] And that's why people that say, I eat red meat and they're sick. Well, that may be the other reasons. The studies that have been done. That are only few that have been done with red meat that has been pastured and this, these humans are eating or [01:00:00] living a healthy lifestyle. They're not eating junk and they're being controlled.

[01:00:04] The red meat is extremely healthy and actually more protective than damaging. So red meat does not cause cancer. And as a matter of fact, we can kind of. Ease on into this diet that I'm doing, which is a lot of red meat and other animal products. So I was eating a paleo type diet, um, up until January 1st, 2020 this year.

[01:00:33] And I started to do some research that got me off the paleo diet and onto the carnivore diet. Now the corner died is basically a meat based or animal based diet. No plants whatsoever. So there's no fruits, no vegetables, no nuts, no seeds in my diet. But there really is, and I'll explain that in a moment, but the [01:01:00] carnivore diet.

[01:01:01] When you dig into the science, which is exciting and outside of the country, even more exciting will show that it is a very healthy diet. If you look at the physiology of our digestive system compared to other primates, we have a small intestine that is larger than most primates. And a large intestine that's smaller than those primates.

[01:01:30] Most primates are eating a lot of vegetables and plant matter and their larger large intestines will digest. The plant matter and their seed comes are designed to ferment the plant matter of food better than humans are. Large small intestine is better designed to digest. Protein matter and animal fat and, and organ systems, uh, Oregon products.

[01:01:59] And if we go [01:02:00] back to some research, there is some, there are some studies that show that neon Andrew Athol man from some of the archeological research and some of the genetic, uh, um. Monitoring of their remains has shown that they probably were actually more carnivorous than omnivorous. And recent studies that have shown, uh, some homo homosapiens in, in, um, uh, Mongolia, I think actually were very carnivorous.

[01:02:33] So are predator, uh, not predators, but our, uh. Uh, predecessors. Yeah. Predecessors, predecessors, primal predecessors were actually more carnivorous than omnivorous. Where you omnivorous, we can eat everything, but we are designed to be more meat or animal eaters than plant eaters, number one. Number two is [01:03:00] that.

[01:03:00] When animals eat plants, which they do, and they can digest the plants better, they actually remove the toxic elements in plants. These phytonutrients that theoretically are beneficial to humans are really chemicals that the plants use to award off animals. They're predators

[01:03:22] Carl Lanore: [01:03:22] like phytoestrogen. It's like so funny.

[01:03:24] They are.

[01:03:24] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:03:24] They are. They are har, um,

[01:03:27] Carl Lanore: [01:03:27] the Antinori anti-nutrients,

[01:03:29] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:03:29] right? They're called antinutrients. Uh, they're harmful to the, to the animals that are trying to eat the plants so that the plants can survive. The players can't run away or fight. They want us to survive and thrive and they're seeds. Of course, they need to regenerate their own, their own bodies by seeds germinating in the ground.

[01:03:50] So. Animals. When they eat these plants, they can digest and remove the toxic anti-nutrients effectively. And these [01:04:00] other parts of the nutrients of the plants get into their fat and organs and muscles. And these are the . Nutrients from plants that we really benefit from,

[01:04:12] Carl Lanore: [01:04:12] and we eat them. We get

[01:04:14] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:04:14] them when we eat the animal, but we have to eat not just the meat, because a lot of the nutrients are in the fat and the organs and the cartilage.

[01:04:22] So when you're eating an animal from those detail, you literally are getting all the nutrients you need in a more biologically active form that. Has no anti-nutrients, no lectins, no. Uh, phytates and no oxalates that are the major anti-nutrients in plants. And

[01:04:43] Carl Lanore: [01:04:43] by the way, oxalates are associated with, um, with gout.

[01:04:48] And suddenly people have gout and they, and the doctor says, we'll stop eating meat. Uh, no, it's it. There's two things. They are, they had generally people have gout, have metabolic disorders. They're insulin resistant already. But [01:05:00] they're eating a lot of plant foods that actually have a lot of oxalates in them, and oxalate is what causes the gout.

[01:05:07] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:05:07] Oxalates has also been shown to create breast cancer and mitochondrial dysfunction. Some interesting papers and a lady whose name is Sally Norton, wrote a wonderful paper a few years back about the damage that oxalates cause in the human body. Great paper. It's on the internet that you can pick up and uh, it's bringing to light these anti-nutrients that we have.

[01:05:33] No, I are not a big deal in the vegetables and fruits that we're eating and the nuts and seeds, but they really are, and since we're eating some much of it on a regular basis, they're building up and compounding in our body. So the diet of a carnivore diet makes tremendous sense. If you want to have a really nutritious nutrient dense diet and eliminate all these nutrients, it's a great elimination diet.

[01:06:00] [01:05:59] But it could be a diet for life. If. You eat nose to

[01:06:03] Carl Lanore: [01:06:03] tail. So what have you offered? I'm sorry.

[01:06:07] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:06:07] No, I was going to say, so that research was exciting but didn't get me as excited as the next thing I want to say. And that is in, in, um, Budapest, German, uh, Budapest, Hungary. There is a clinic called paleo medecina.

[01:06:24] Paleo medicine for the last 10 years has been treating patients that have all kinds of chronic diseases as well as cancer, and they are treating their patients with a form of carnival or die, they call it the paleolithic ketogenic diet, which is trickily carnivore diet that also eliminates all dairy, and they do not.

[01:06:52] Or they wean their patients off of any and all medications. So they're only on this [01:07:00] very strict carnivore diet and they are curing chronic diseases and cancer, and they have a variety of published case studies of these patients that have, they've cured or certainly have gotten significantly healthier without medicine.

[01:07:19] And. Conventional medicine, and that was getting me quite excited with that and other research like Thomas Siegfried and the concepts of metabolic dysfunction and mitochondrial dysfunction being the cause of cancer. Then all of this makes significant sense to me to try to improve my mitochondria and to improve my.

[01:07:46] I did tie it in my metabolism and eliminate anything that is somewhat of an anti nutrient. So the carnival or diet makes so much sense to me. And with the, with the anecdotal and the [01:08:00] published case studies that I've seen with remission of incurable cancers. I thought, why not? See, I measure my life in months today.

[01:08:11] I mean, theoretically I should have died. I'm not dying yet. And then you can see I'm not dead and I feel good and I look good. And I may actually, you know, I'm a study of N equals one no one is doing what I'm doing. W with my protocols, my aggressive cancer, my very delicate skeletal system, no one is treating their body like I am.

[01:08:36] And I may not only go into remission soon cause my oncologist thinks that's a possibility. I may cure this thing, which is phenomenal, but I'm doing it, I believe because I'm improving my overall body's ability to heal. And the carnivore diet right now is my go to way of eating. I've not stopped my.

[01:08:58] Protocols to [01:09:00] support my immune system. I'm not stopped the protocol to definitely improve my gut and maintain my healthy gut, and I certainly am doing my four sessions of pulse electromagnetic field therapy every day to . So you get that as under control as I can, but I think that this carnivore diet could be a game changer for me.

[01:09:21] Carl Lanore: [01:09:21] I sleep with a PMF unit. I've had an Hertz, I've had an EarthPulse unit now for 15 years.

[01:09:27] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:09:27] Yeah. Yeah. And you know, you may not feel anything from it, but your body's cells are healthier and stronger, and they have the electrical potential that needs to be there for the cells to function. Optimally.

[01:09:42] Carl Lanore: [01:09:42] So I, I've gone on this deep dive of, of the, the role of too much iron in the body and its role in advanced aging.

[01:09:51] I've done several shows about it now dating back to around 2010. And, uh, I noticed that when my [01:10:00] ferritin and TIBC start to rise, I can actually feel. The magnetic pulse. It's agitates me and that's how I, yeah, that's, that's how I know I need to go donate blood again. That's one of the things that has been a tip.

[01:10:10] Yeah. Because it makes perfect sense. It's not, it's not, it's not like I'm becoming an antenna. The more iron in myself. If they're being, they're being affected by that pulse.

[01:10:20] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:10:20] You can listen to your radio show in your head, right?

[01:10:23] Carl Lanore: [01:10:23] Yeah, exactly. No, that's from a tooth I had filled one time. Now you've heard that, right?

[01:10:28] There are people that have had fillings and they could pick up a shortwave

[01:10:31] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:10:31] radio. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:10:32] Carl Lanore: [01:10:32] So, so what have you noticed since you went, uh, carnivores? You, you feel better sleeping better and,

[01:10:38] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:10:38] yes. Um, so I've noticed I've actually dropped some more pounds. But no change in my, um, muscle mass, which is obviously important.

[01:10:48] Right? Um, lots more energy. I feel lots more energy. I've done, I mean, it's only been since January 1st, but it's now a month and a half. [01:11:00] Um, uh, almost two months. And, and I am, I'm feeling good. I have no cravings. Uh, I'm very satisfied. I only eat twice a day. Uh, and I only eat when I'm hungry. I only drink when I'm thirsty.

[01:11:14] I drink I M a type of, um, alkaline, a natural alkaline, uh, Springwater, which, which is fine cause I want the minerals in the water. And that's a very important to balance everything with the carnivore diet. Uh, I am taking my supplements that I take. To support my immune system and to support my gut. But I'm not taking supplements to, you know, like a vitamin supplement or, or a mega three fatty acids.

[01:11:44] I don't believe in that. I think all of that I want from the real food, and I can get that in the carnivore diet and, you know, the meat, the fish, and Oregon's in it. So what, so what did you

[01:11:54] Carl Lanore: [01:11:54] give me? Give me a snapshot of a day's food. Like what are the

[01:11:57] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:11:57] choices? Sure, sure. So, so [01:12:00] for example, um. I love Wagyu beef, and I found a farm in Florida that actually raises pure Wagyu grass fed and grass finished.

[01:12:11] Amazing. So I get their ground beef, I get their short ribs, I get their oxtail. Um, it's really fantastic. So. What I have. This morning, I had a, um, um, a burger that I made from the Wagyu beef that I generally take a pound of Wagyu beef ground beef, mix it up. The seasoning is just a Himalayan salt and I put it in a little container divided in thirds.

[01:12:40] And once, you know, in the morning and once in the evening, I might have a third as a burger or I will have this this evening. I'm. Cooking in a slow cooker. Some short ribs will have that. Um, you can. A brisket or, or a Chuck roast or whatever makes, um, in, in a [01:13:00] slow cooker. It makes a very tender type of meat.

[01:13:02] And, and the, and the, and the bone broth that it's cooked in is like a soup. So I eat that. I certainly eat liver. I love chicken liver and a variety of organic patties that are work. Pat days, I eat, um, some chicken I eat. Sardines. I love wild caught salmon. I eat salmon Roe, which is a very good source of Omega threes and a variety of other nutrients.

[01:13:28] Uh, I do eat lots of eggs. I eat eggs over easy. I eat the whole egg, not just the egg yolk. Um. Uh, and I have been shying away from any cheeses because the casing and the cheese could be a factor in my gut. I'm not sure. I never had a problem, but right now I'm just trying to be as pure carnivores. I can.

[01:13:51] Yeah.

[01:13:51] Carl Lanore: [01:13:51] And that, and that's something most people aren't willing to do. They're not willing to experiment like I'm doing, I'm doing this right now too. Uh, there were certain things in my diet that I think [01:14:00] were not good for me. One of them was coffee. I gotta be honest. I, I've given up coffee so many times, but the caffeine brings me back.

[01:14:07] But this time I've given up coffee for good. I know everybody's laughing right now.

[01:14:10] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:14:10] No, I'm just going to tell you that I had not given up my coffee and let me just tell you and I,

[01:14:15] Carl Lanore: [01:14:15] but see coffee for me. If I drink coffee. My stomach feels horrible for the rest of the day,

[01:14:21] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:14:21] and I understand that. And that's true with a lot of people.

[01:14:24] I drink my coffee first thing in the morning, not during the day. I eat, drink, literally two cups of coffee, so it's a 16 ounce cup, a cup of coffee, and I, because I want to be in ketosis. Now. That's another thing about the carnivore diet. You can and cannot be, you don't have to be in ketosis, but I want to be in ketosis because being in ketosis, meaning my body is.

[01:14:48] Producing a lot of ketones, and it's not functioning on glucose for a, for energy. Um, all the cells in your body can live on ketones, but the [01:15:00] cancer cells. Cannot live on ketones, right? So I'm trying to starve cancer. So they also live on gluten, glutamine, which is, we can't 

[01:15:10] Carl Lanore: [01:15:10] and also a, I think

[01:15:11] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:15:11] they can live on my thigh and knee.

[01:15:12] And also, I'm not sure about that, but I know glutamine is another big source for their energy. But. If I can eliminate a major source and support my mitochondria, which I'm doing with a variety of things, including pulse, electromagnetic field therapy, I, I'm thinking that maybe I can slowly work, uh, these cancer cells out of my body.

[01:15:33] But, um, back to back to, um, the carnivore diet, I am, I am trying to put all the nutrients that I need from the meat. The fat and the Oregon's into my system without anything artificial.

[01:15:51] Carl Lanore: [01:15:51] That's wonderful. We're going to take our last commercial break. Stay tuned. Spit that out right now. This is the [01:16:00] superhuman channel.

[01:16:03] Welcome back to supremer radio. We're talking with dr  Dannenberg. His website is dr D a N E N B E R g.com. You can go there and read his blog. There's a lot more great information he has that we just don't have the time to cover. On today's show, we've gone like we've, we will all these supposed to be on the air for an hour today.

[01:16:21] We've got an hour and 25 minutes already, and we still haven't scratched the surface of the great information that's on his website. Uh, and of course you can also buy his book there. So if everything works right with the keto diet, with being in ketosis, I'm sorry, the carnivore diet, but being in ketosis.

[01:16:41] Uh, the new immunotherapy. Um, if you had a sketch out what you think could happen in the next year, what do you think it's going to be?

[01:16:51] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:16:51] Well, I think that, uh, for the most part, I'm going to, as I continue to have my, um, specific cancer [01:17:00] chemistries done, they're going to be improving and my levels of malignant.

[01:17:05] Plasma cells will go down to hopefully normal and not be malignant anymore. That that I'm looking for, I'm strengthening my bones is going to be a really difficult issue and I'm going to probably be very careful in the. Certainly the obvious future to what I do and what I don't do. There are going to be some scans that I'll have later on to evaluate the density and, and the, um, osteolytic lesions that I have or I have had in my bones.

[01:17:41] Um. More than likely, I'm going to be much more physical and, and get out easier and exercise better and strengthen my muscles and endurance. Um, and I, I think that, again, my quality of life is, is great. So I think that I'm going to have a [01:18:00] very successful outcome. I may not met my oncologist right now, things that I have about a year to live.

[01:18:08] And

[01:18:09] Carl Lanore: [01:18:09] was this the same oncologist that told you two years ago? The only,

[01:18:12] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:18:12] I have a wonderful reputation, a rapport with him. He and I, I mean, he, he can't, he's in a big medical group. He can't start to suggest what I'm doing to anybody for anybody else. And he shouldn't. And I don't want any of your listeners to believe that I have the cure.

[01:18:28] I don't have the cure. I'm just telling you, I'm expressing the thing that I did. What are the things that I think is very important and, and I read. Recently, somebody made some comments that were not very favorable, and I just want to emphasize my concept of treating my disease is an integration of conventional medicine.

[01:18:51] And unconventional medicine. The only thing that I rejected was anything put into my body [01:19:00] that I could avoid because it was caustic to my body and damaging my immune system and would decrease the quality of my life. The overriding factor for me, not anybody else, but for me, is that have a quality of life where I can enjoy.

[01:19:20] Being with my wife, my children, my grandchildren, creating memories that makes sense to me and to them, and not the becoming debilitated, but extending my years. I didn't want to do that. So I'm, I've created the things that I've created, the carnivore diet, which is not a new fangled diet. It's a way that our primitive ancestors actually probably.

[01:19:49] Eight for the majority of the time if they could, but of course we're adaptable. We can eat plants and we can be vegans for a short period of time. There's nothing wrong with that [01:20:00] either, but. Our physiology has been designed. Our bodies are designed to be more of an animal base rather than a plant based, um, animal.

[01:20:09] And, and we are, and we are functioning well. And I think this diet, at least the studies that have been published has shown that it may. Offset and cause remission and maybe cure for a variety of incurable cancers. It makes sense to me. So going forward is, this is where I feel that I'm going. I want to share my experiences, but I don't want to have anybody think that I am a guy that is telling you the secret to cure your cancer and ignore anything and everything else that you heard from any other person.

[01:20:46] And, uh. Yes, I am a dentist and I'm not an oncologist, and therefore maybe I don't have the, uh, credentials, but I'm not trying to give out medical advice for anybody. I just want to [01:21:00] share what I'm trying to do for my own body that makes sense. So that I can heal in a natural way.

[01:21:06] Carl Lanore: [01:21:06] So most people don't die of their cancers.

[01:21:11] Correct. Their cancer stops their heart from beating. Sure. I mean, you can have cancers in your certain organs and AF can absolutely affect the organs, but most people don't die from their cancer. They die from muscle wasting and becoming fragile and, and, and withering into death. So as long as you can stay robust, yes.

[01:21:33] Then you could live with this cancer for another 20 years.

[01:21:36] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:21:36] Yes. Yeah. So, so my oncologist, and again, I love him to death. He's fantastic. Um. Right in the beginning he said, and my question to him was, what's going to kill me? And he said, with your type of multiple myeloma, you will probably die from either kidney failure.

[01:21:57] Or some kind of bleeding [01:22:00] disease because of the blood. Uh, red blood cells are being compromised. Your hemoglobin would be compromised, your platelets would be compromised, or an infection that we cannot get under control because my immune system is greatly compromised because my disease is a disease. Oh, plasma cells.

[01:22:20] My malignancy is in the plasma cells, which is actually creating my immune system, my innate immune system. So in essence, it is, um, one of those three causes of death. The other cause of death in my mind, could be such a severe pathological fracture, right? That it compromises my. Oregon's ability to function

[01:22:46] Carl Lanore: [01:22:46] like a complete, like a complete, uh, um, uh, pelvis shatter

[01:22:51] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:22:51] or crack my skull.

[01:22:55] You know, if I fall and break my head open or, or crush [01:23:00] my, my chest and, and it literally pierces my heart or my lungs. I mean, these are realities I, that I'm living with. Yet. On the other hand, I feel great. I don't feel pain. Right? Um, I'm not, I, I, well, let me correct this. I am living with pain, but the pain that I'm living with, I would just define as discomfort and I take no pain medicine.

[01:23:24] Occasionally I will take maybe 400 milligrams of ibuprofen if I'm really not feeling well. And that. Takes care of the edge of the pain, but for the most part, I'm not doing any medicine like that. I am taking. The immunotherapy. When I do the immunotherapy, there are some drugs that I prefer not to take, but it is part of the Le, the infusion, which is an IV infusion with the immunotherapy.

[01:23:51] One is Benadryl, and one is a steroid, which is terrible. It's a, that's, um, DECA drive. But I, but I have to take it [01:24:00] just to prevent some reactions with the infusion, but it's only that day so. My infusions were weekly for eight weeks. Now it's every other week for another eight sessions, and then it'll be only once a month as needed based on my blood chemistries and my plasma.

[01:24:17] A cell levels and the malignancy levels, so that's where I'm going. The only drugs I'm taking are what I'm explaining. Everything else is a supplements that support my immune system, my bone metabolism, and my mitochondria. Which I think are very critical and a diet that I think is very nutrient dense and not only supports what I need nutritionally, but may help starve cancer cells because I'm trying to stay in ketosis and to do that, I have to have a high fat content.

[01:24:49] Carl Lanore: [01:24:49] How about the sun? Do you get out in the sun often?

[01:24:51] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:24:51] Yeah. Well now I can get out in the sun cause they can get literally walk. But in the, you know, for a while I was literally in a hospital bed in my house. Right. [01:25:00] So, you know, I, I do take, and I was taking, um, vitamin D three, but certainly as soon as I can get out in the sun, I will, and I will do the sign as much as I can.

[01:25:10] I'm not going to be, um, bathing outside and, you know, uh. That's not going to be easy for me to do, but I am going to get into this

[01:25:19] Carl Lanore: [01:25:19] as much. Take your shirt off. At

[01:25:21] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:25:21] least, gosh, you're in my backyard. I, I can finally do that and walk around my yard. And that's what I used to do all the time.

[01:25:27] Carl Lanore: [01:25:27] So melatonin has been shown to help re middle arise Joan jaw bone.

[01:25:32] They did one study with dogs, they gave them implants and they, they, and I take a fairly large Joseph melatonin every night, nine milligrams, and it seems to have some effect on bone. Remineralization or you

[01:25:44] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:25:44] just wrote an article that I publish on my website about melatonin and periodontal disease, which is very, very exciting because there have been some studies that have shown that melatonin in a liquid extract, uh, put on the gum [01:26:00] tissues could actually decrease inflammation.

[01:26:02] Now. Just to decrease inflammation. The gum tissue is not treating gum disease. You have to treat gum disease. Like I indicated earlier, like getting the gut healthy and doing a variety of other things, but the fact that it is an anti inflammatory, um. Medicine, and it's not just from the pineal gland because it actually is being created in the gut, which is another interesting thing, and it's a penny of land is related to the circadian rhythm, but in the gut it has nothing to do with the light dark cycle.

[01:26:34] That's another interesting concept, but yes, melatonin is very interesting.

[01:26:38] Carl Lanore: [01:26:38] There was a study I read many years ago where they took dogs. And they, you know, they, they did a dental implant, you know, they screwed back, screwed down into the bone or whatever. And one group of dogs, they actually treated the bone with melatonin and then G and used a melatonin supplement directed on the area.

[01:26:58] And the other group, they [01:27:00] didn't do that too. And the group that they did it to, the bone recal sulfide and grew and grew around that implant so much faster and so much stronger. And I thought, wow. You know, it probably has a, an effect like that on all bone, not just on your jaw and,

[01:27:17] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:27:17] and that, that is probably why, I don't know the biological mechanisms of the melatonin.

[01:27:24] Production in the gut, but some of it has to do with helping the microbiome also. And of course, if it's in the microbiome and it's in the gut, it certainly can become systemic too. It's very, we are amazing machines and we learn a little bit and we think we know quite a lot and we really realize, we know even less than we thought we knew.

[01:27:46] But it is fascinating and melatonin is a very exciting, um. Biological chemical.

[01:27:52] Carl Lanore: [01:27:52] In fact, the, it's not the, it's not the lack of information and knowledge. [01:28:00] It's not the lack of knowledge that impairs us, but it's the illusion of knowledge that impairs us when we think we know.

[01:28:07] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:28:07] Yes. And

[01:28:08] Carl Lanore: [01:28:08] then we find out we were wrong.

[01:28:09] And we do that. And we do that instinctively as humans because we're so desperate to control our environment and our outcomes. That we believe that we are smarter than nature. Just look at baby formula, you know, look at all the stupid things we do, and then we find out 30 years later, Oh, that really wasn't a good idea.

[01:28:30] Like we should've just stuck with the game

[01:28:32] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:28:32] plan. I think when we. Try not to play around with mother nature. We really are much more successful. And if we would just go back to the basics and not find this process thing better than the natural thing and that process thing better than the natural thing.

[01:28:51] And we just. Excepted what really is real and natural in our environment, we would be so much better off. Yeah.

[01:29:00] [01:28:59] Carl Lanore: [01:28:59] Listen, I want to thank you for having you on the show. I want to have you back on at the end of the year to check on your progress

[01:29:04] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:29:04] series. It's been so fantastic. I appreciate the opportunity.

[01:29:08] Yeah, you've been awesome.

[01:29:09] Carl Lanore: [01:29:09] Thank you and w and I really do. I want you to keep me posted. If you could drop me an email once in a while and we'll get you back on the air cause I have a feeling you audience is going to be really inspired by your, your outcome here.

[01:29:19] Dr. Al Danenberg, DDS: [01:29:19] I will do that. Thank you. Thanks.

[01:29:20] Appreciate it.

[01:29:21] Carl Lanore: [01:29:21] We're going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, I'm going to tell you a secret on how you can prepare yourself to protect against the Corona virus. I'm telling you, this is legit science I'm going to cite today and it's so easy. You're going to thank me. Stay tuned.

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[01:29:40] Carl Lanore: [01:29:40] is the superhuman channel doing reps

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[01:29:51] welcome back.

[01:29:53] Carl Lanore: [01:29:53] Okay, so Tuesday Ryan Smith from TaylorMade is coming on. Let me look into the camera since it's just me. [01:30:00] Uh, to talk about peptide protocols that would absolutely be effective, uh, for either protecting against or even possibly, uh, using after, uh, contracting, uh, coven 19. This new form of Corona virus.

[01:30:21] And the number one peptide on the list of about three or four peptides, and we'll talk about them on Tuesday. For the rest of you is L L three seven now, I happen to know that LL three seven is a downstream metabolite of 25 hydroxy, which is vitamin D, but it's the biologically available vitamin D. And there's plenty of studies that show that the body produces LL three seven from the vitamin D in sun exposure.

[01:30:55] But I thought, gee, I wonder if there's a direct correlation between . [01:31:00] Supplementing with actually Kollel calciferol, which is what's in your vitamin D three supplement and an increase in LL 37 and I found this study, and it will be in today's show, you'll be able to click the link and see it and download it.

[01:31:15] That shows that taking, uh, they, they had a, in a, this was in a, um, an ICU ward, you know, he's a very sick people and they tested them first and they had very, very low levels of 25 hydroxy and. They gave them supplemental vitamin D in pills, and they monitor them and then they test their blood again, and sure enough, they're 25 hydroxy went up as we would expect, but they also tested for both LL three seven before and after an LL three seven went up to LL three seven.

[01:31:51] It's part of the body's natural antiviral antimicrobial defense system. It's very high when we're young. Maybe [01:32:00] because we play outside more, it gets lower as we get older. And people using LL three seven to cure CBO and all sorts of fun, like, like the LL three seven makes tail and toenail fungus go away without taking those antifungals.

[01:32:13] I mean, it's really powerful stuff. Well, I started thinking about this cause now the news is saying, well LL the Copa 19 may actually be a seasonal virus just like influenza. So it goes away and they're actually saying by springtime it's probably going to go away from what they can tell. And I started thinking, what's the magic of hot weather?

[01:32:38] Is it the temperature that these viruses can't live in? Well, that can't be true because those of us who use sauna, we wouldn't get viruses if it was just the heat. The linkage between seasonal viruses may actually be sun exposure. You know, we're out in the sun in the [01:33:00] summertime. You know, a lot of us are laying out by pool.

[01:33:02] You know me. I mean, I, I'll lay in the sun every chance I can get, um, and I don't get the flu. I mean, I can't, I haven't had the flu in a long time. Now I'm thinking back about it 2019 I mean, 2009. I did get, um, what I thought was swine flu, but it, it may have been something else cause I never was, I was never tested.

[01:33:24] No one ever did a culture on me. So yeah, you have swine flu. But I was pretty sick for a few days, but it could have been anything. I could have been eaten. I could have eaten something that was bad back then. But. The linkage between seasonality and these, uh, viruses may actually be sun exposure. And if that's true, then we would see a lower incidents of, uh, of influenza.

[01:33:49] The closer we got to the equator. And guess what we do so. If you supplement with vitamin D and get your 25 [01:34:00] hydroxy levels higher than the average, they say, I think they estimate that the average American has a 25 hydroxy levels of 37 which anything below 40 is considered a sub clinically deficient. If you can get your 25 hydroxy levels up to in the fifties and sixties then your LL three seven is naturally going to go up with it.

[01:34:24] And if your LL three seven goes up with it, then theoretically if injecting LL three seven can protect you against viruses, then of course the LL three seven that your body makes naturally from vitamin D would also protect you from viruses. Now. Until we have clinical trials where they take people who are exposed to , I mean a covert 19 or even rodents or whatever, and give one group a vitamin D and the other group a placebo and see who gets sick and who doesn't.

[01:34:57] And that would be a really good study to do. [01:35:00] Maybe we don't need these vaccines. Maybe we're just once again, like we were just talking about once we started working against nature, we are designed to be outdoors. You know, the whole idea of indoor living, indoor with artificial light. This is a, this is, this is all new to us.

[01:35:16] I mean, even back into the 18 hundreds the 17 hundreds when light was introduced, these incandescent bulbs weren't like they are today. And we still spent a lot of time outdoors. But today we're spending more and more time in doors. We're not seeing the sun. Dermatologists are telling us, stay away from the sun because it's going to give you cancer.

[01:35:37] I mean, we are sun deficient today. Now, of course, you can supplement with colo calciferol, which is D three. And raise your levels and absolutely raise your levels of LL three seven, which should protect you against a variety of things, not just covert 19 against colds and flus and all these other bugs that go around, because that is the [01:36:00] defense mechanism our body uses for us not to contract these, these, uh, conditions.

[01:36:07] So I would say to you. By your mask if you're traveling. Absolutely. But up your 25 hydroxy levels, increase your vitamin D level. Start supplementing. Go to any lab tests now or one of these places. We can get your blood levels tested. Do a vitamin D test, see where you are. Take 1,005 thousand I take, I take 20,000 I'll use the vitamin D a day.

[01:36:32] I'm dark. I have a high degree of, uh, 25 hydroxy binding protein, so I can take more, but I actually need more to raise my levels. A fair skin person, get away with maybe a thousand or 2000 I'll use and, and, and reach 50. I have to hit, I have to hit 20,000 I'll use a day for me to hit 60. So consider this.

[01:36:58] Um, and tell [01:37:00] your friends, tell everybody, you know, I mean, look, it can't hurt you to take vitamin D three if you're not taking it already. It's not like, Oh, I wasted all my money on vitamin D three. It didn't do anything for me. It has lots of benefits of taking it. One of them. It may actually be that you won't get a virus.

[01:37:19] What does that worth to you? Anyway? A Monday, we have a good show. Let's see. Um, Monday Gina Aliante is coming on. Those of you who know her, uh, she was a, uh. Very, very popular, uh, uh, competitor, uh, fake figure fitness, that sort of stuff. And she recently became a mom and she had devised the way that moms can use to stay in shape or get back in shape after delivering a baby.

[01:37:48] Uh, Tuesday we have the blueprint power hour. Uh, let's see, Wednesday we have some really good shows next week. I don't have them off the top of my head cause Elise has been helping me book them. Uh, but we have a lot of really good [01:38:00] shows next week that I hope we can tune in for. But in the meantime, spread the word about a vitamin D three.

[01:38:05] Tell your friends who are worried about catching the Corona virus to up their vitamin D three and you'll find this study. That shows that supplementing with D three raises LL three seven in your body on this today's show, post on the super radio.net website so you can share it about, I see everybody next week.

[01:38:27] Have a great safe weekend. Have fun. Turn off the brain, stop working. Have fun and party. Live your life because before you know it, you'll be old like me. See you next week. [01:39:00] .