[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] hey, Hey, welcome back to another episode of super human radio. We have a really important show today with the all the worry about the Corona virus covert 19 this a unique form of Corona virus. We're going to talk about some things that science shows can help you. Uh, this isn't voodoo. You know, uh, what's that?

[00:00:20] Uh, colloidal silver water that's gonna help you. You know, I want to be careful not to be put in this, uh, this box of zealots where it's like, well, just eat more selenium. It's like, no, it is more to it and it has to be shown to be effective in science. And we're gonna talk about that today with my, uh, guest Ryan Smith from TaylorMade compounding.

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[00:02:04] So, um, there's a couple things I want to put out there in front of this interview cause I want people to start thinking a little bit. So the first thing is we are seeing mysterious patients pop up in metropolitan areas where there is no quote unquote link of travel. They haven't been to Italy, they haven't been to China, but yet they're, they're being tested positive for covert 19 and the CDC said themselves that there are many people who.

[00:02:40] Have been infected, that developed no symptoms at all. They had a guy in quarantine, uh, you know, he had a little mild fever one day and it went away and that was it. But they still haven't been quarantine because he tested positive for Cobra 19 for this particular strain. So I want people to think about this and here's why.

[00:02:59] There are [00:03:00] people out there right now that have the covert 19 virus and they develop no symptoms. This is no different than people have been walking around with the HIV virus, but never developed symptoms. Look at magic Johnson. He's a perfect example of that. He got, he had his HIV, but he never developed AIDS.

[00:03:15] So the reason I want to bring this to your attention is because you need to ask yourselves and then we're going to talk about it. What's different about these people who get infected but don't get any symptoms there? Just keep that in the back of your mind. So you have listed a five peptides. That could be effective in preventing and or treating a coven 19 so let's start with the first one at the top of the list.

[00:03:44] Yeah. So that one is my favorite peptide. And I've said this time and time again, the thymus and alpha one, I'm definitely not. The one is a, is an interesting product. It's it pretty endogenously, so naturally in our body. Um, and it got FDA approval in 2013 for us an orphan drug, [00:04:00] uh, just because it helped in so many different things.

[00:04:02] And now it's FDA approved for malignant melanoma, hepatitis C and hepatitis. B. But yeah, the effects of that, there are, are way beyond that. I mean, we usually, you know, a lot of our positions, like everything from auto immune to treating, you know, the regular flu virus. Um, and what it basically does just strengthens the immune system.

[00:04:19] It, it, it works on the innate immune response just to basically increase the abilities your visability to find and then therefore kill, uh, some of these, uh, virally infected. Cells, it works with cancer cells as well, which is the reason it's approved when on Noma. But, uh, but for viral cells as well. Okay.

[00:04:38] So how would you use it in the protocol if you're worried about covert 19 and, and do you think it has a place for people who have already been infected in order for them to recover their health? Two questions. Yeah. The answer is yes to both. I don't think that they're, you know, everyone could afford this.

[00:04:56] I think that everyone should be on it because there's really a, you know, in some of the [00:05:00] monographs, it's described as having less side effects than placebo, which is a pretty, a pretty powerful endorsement. I always laugh about that when the group that got nothing developed, more symptoms and side effects.

[00:05:13] That's so funny. That is exactly it. I mean, I think it speaks to, again, all the, all the different applications of this which go from, uh, you know, everything from, um, autoimmune disease to, uh, you know, being a vaccine advocate, advent to increase efficacy of vaccines. Uh, but you know, as we're talking about treating or preventing this fire is prophylactically, what this is able to do is increase the native immune system.

[00:05:35] So it's not gonna it's not, it doesn't have an antiviral effect. Uh, directly. But as we're answering that question, you know, as we're answering questions, how can some people be on some asymptomatic? And then how can other people, um, have, uh, you know, really good responses. Um, and it's all because their immune system, and this basically allows the infrastructure immune system to be upregulated.

[00:05:56] Um, you know, it does, you know, some things with cytokines. I won't [00:06:00] mention interferon gamma, which basically increases T-cells. It creases I've toxic killer cells. Uh, you know, your, your. All your antibodies, as well as increasing, uh, expression on some of these cells. That would stimulate your immune system to say, Hey, I need you to kill this type of cell and cause it to go undergo apoptosis.

[00:06:19] So any type of viral illnesses would be effective in, um, both preventatively and, uh, as a treatment strategy, which is why it's approved. Or steroids are proven to have type C and hepatitis B and has been studied in HIV as well. So if you're looking for it for prophylactic effect from thymus and alpha one, what would you take and how frequently?

[00:06:36] And, and if you're looking for. Recovery from, uh, a, uh, infection, uh, this one or others, what would you do. So the typical dosing protocol is going to be around 1.5 1.6 milligrams twice weekly. Um, so it's a subcutaneous injection, um, if you want to say the peptides were, or insulin or anything like that, usually familiar with that.

[00:06:56] Um, but usually it's just a twice weekly injection. And for [00:07:00] prophylaxis. Uh, I, you know, if you're traveling, if you're gonna be on an airplane where you might be, you know, exposed to some of these things, uh, you know, taking the day before or the day of, uh, that travel would be my recommendation. Usually the effects that it's having are going to be the half life of the molecule isn't exactly super long, but some of the downstream effects can be upgraded for some time, and so usually twice weekly it will be enough for prophylaxis.

[00:07:24] So, uh, one of the other things I want to mention at this point as we move forward too, to keep it into discussion is that, uh, the th a lot of things that work for viruses don't necessarily work for all viruses, especially viruses that are considered reverse transcripted viruses. Thank you to, uh, uh, Brian Moscow for educating me on this.

[00:07:45] So, reverse transcripted viruses harness the, uh, enzyme, uh. Reverse transcriptase and reverse transcriptase. His primary role is to edit and help us make new [00:08:00] DNA. When viruses harness that, they actually trick the reverse transcriptase to put them into the DNA blueprint, and then cells actually start becoming replication factories of this virus.

[00:08:16] And this is why these types of viruses. Overwhelm the human condition. You know, Ebola, it's like somebody gets Ebola four days later, their ears are fallen off and they're dying. It's not like influenza where it comes on slow. Has this long incubation period reverse transcripted. Viruses overwhelm the host, which, so they go viral, like we think of things going viral.

[00:08:38] They leverage parts of the human body to actually make cells into factories and, and produce a lot of them. So not everything we talk about today is just good for. Influenza and general viruses, but we will also want to mention when these protocols actually have an [00:09:00] effect on reverse transcripted, uh, uh, viruses, which I know you're next peptide we're going to talk about.

[00:09:06] It's very fascinating. And it's one I love. I promoted it a long time ago to get rid of CBO. It actually made toenail fungus go away on people's bodies. It was like, I don't know what this stuff is, but it's like real. And it really is a primary mover in the immune system. That's LL three seven, right? Yeah, definitely.

[00:09:24] L three seven is the body's now really only natural capitalist seeding or antimicrobial peptide. Um, and it, uh, you know, it often gets pigeonholed as just an antimicrobial peptide, but it's so much more than that. You know. It's, as you mentioned, antifungal, it's anti viral, it's anti-bacterial. And in addition to that, it has implication in helping treat cancer or autoimmune disease.

[00:09:45] Um, and so it's a, it's a very, very diverse peptide. It has over seven different receptors, which can activate, um, or, you know, sort of throughout the body. And so, um, you know, it's a, it's one that's meant to be upregulated. For instance, if you have a respiratory virus, [00:10:00] your, uh, your body will actually upregulate this production in your epithelium cells.

[00:10:04] Um, to make sure that whatever had entry is, is being treated and, and destroyed. And so, a really, really interesting one. I know that you, uh, you like it for some of the other reasons in terms of how it can relate to reverse cancer. Today's a man, it's interaction with vitamin D, but, um, yeah, this is another one that is good for a lot of different viruses, a lot of different.

[00:10:23] So here, here's an interesting fact aboutL  three, seven, um, sepsis, which has a mortality rate as high as 50%. Uh, and one small ICU study of 30 people with severe sepsis, they would dying. So they were allowed to use something on them that wasn't the standard of care. And they elevated LL three, seven, and these individuals, they all lived number one.

[00:10:50] Uh, another thing is interesting when we talk about re reverse transcripted viruses like covert 19 is HIV is [00:11:00] Ebola is. Uh, there's a study out of the university of, uh, of Karolinska in Sweden showing that LL three, seven, stop the replication of HIV in HIV positive patients. Now this is, this is cause remember when we talk about reverse transcripted.

[00:11:20] Viruses. We're talking about a virus that is on steroids. It's not just a regular virus, but it harnesses and leverages cells to make the virus and getting it to stop transcribing new viruses is an amazing thing. LL three seven does that. So the reality is that LL three seven if you connect the dots, will be effective against coven 19 because it's effective against HIV, and I'm sure it's probably effective against the Ebola.

[00:11:48] Yeah, yup. And it's got studies, uh, w when influenza, uh, you know, RSV, a lot of these, you know, more common things because they're more common. Um, but you would expect it to have some [00:12:00] activity against the, you know, the more unique things like Cobra, Knights, canteen, and Ebola. Uh, as. Well, and I haven't seen that study with HIV, but obviously sounds very, very promising.

[00:12:09] Yeah, I'll send it to you. So, so, uh, I want to put this question up because Laura Fleischer is asking, this was pulled up after we talked about Dimus and alpha one. She seems to be a little hypersensitive to it. Uh, have you seen people that are hypersensitive to thymus and alpha one. Um, very, very rarely.

[00:12:26] It's actually a, you know, a unique medical, a wary, I'll give a shout out to him as well. On the board. He, uh, he has actually another one that, uh, you know, he has had some experiences at times in alpha one, I mean, seen this before as well. And so we don't have a lot of it, but occasionally we do. And I would say usually.

[00:12:43] It can be rectified by trying to preserve the free diamonds and alpha things without the Binzel alcohol. A lot of times I'm super reactive. Patients can have that more as, as as an effect rather than the time stop of one. So we do make it as a preferred free version, but it is a single use, a bio, which can make it a little bit harder [00:13:00] to administer.

[00:13:00] And so I would say that we don't see the Optum, but we have seen it occasionally. Particularly in patients who have had some sensitivities, things like, you know, servers or mold toxicity. Um, but, uh, still I would say very, very rare, you know, do you, do you buy the whole Herxheimer phenomenon? I, it's hard to say, you know, uh, I mean, it may, it makes sense, but has anyone actually looked to see if that's actually what's happening to people.

[00:13:29] You know, I, not that I know of. I know that a lot of our chickens, um, are, are very, very familiar with the Herxheimer reaction and have a lot of definitive, I would say, would they believe it's definitive testing, um, to help try and predict it. But, uh, but of course there's not a, not a area of expertise of mine.

[00:13:45] Because, let me just put this out there for, for Laura, there is a phenomenon called Herxheimer reaction, which is, uh, the premise is that when you cause rapid die off of these bad bugs C, [00:14:00] okay, so bad bugs eat your food and they poop out toxins and the toxins that would cause the rheumatoid arthritis and the inflammatory disorders and the autoimmune disorders.

[00:14:11] So when you kill them, they basically. Empty everything out into your bloodstream. So if you have, if you kill a large number of these pathogens, these bad bugs. The theory behind Herxheimer is your body gets hit with just an onslaught of this stuff that's been causing you problems that's been trickling into your body all at once.

[00:14:35] And you feel flu like symptoms, nausea, dizziness. I've heard people talk about paresthesias, tingling in the hands and feet, uh, and the premise is keep doing what you're doing because after about a week, it goes away. Once that. Big load of toxins has been taken out of your system, so I would just put that out there.

[00:14:55] You may want to do some more research, Laura, on the Herxheimer reaction and see if it [00:15:00] sounds like what's happening to you with the time it's an alpha one because it actually could be evidence that the TA one is working. Absolutely, and I should note that theoretically that time is not Hawaiian. Um, should I be undergoing a pop ptosis so that you're not getting a lot of that, uh, cell lysis of viral, uh, interactions?

[00:15:19] Um, but there are definitely, I would say, exceptions to that, where some of these actually, you know, do some of the necrosis, almost like a Herxheimer almost as comparable to a tumor cell lysis syndrome, uh, where you're licensed some of those constituents and, and some of those things can be a little bit inflammatory.

[00:15:34] Um, and so theoretically times South of one should help with that. Um, but, uh, you know, there are obviously some exceptions to the rule depending on bird. Okay. What is the a and Danny Geraldo Oquendo who listens from Columbia every day? We are talking about peptides that affect your immune system today and more specifically that can have a benefit in viruses like covert 19 Danny, are [00:16:00] you having a problem in Columbia right now with the Corona virus?

[00:16:04] Could you post something up there if you, if you could give us an update on another continent there. Uh, what is the third, uh, peptide in the five peptide protocol? Yeah, so the, um, the third peptide that I like a lot for prophylaxis is the Sealink. Um, the Sealink is probably, you know, a peptide. Most people recognize as a cognitive test for anti-anxiety, something for increasing things like BDNF or helping with pain or helping with stress response.

[00:16:33] Um, what, but you know. The ceiling and C-Max are often grouped together as well. They're both Russian peptides, which started with a sort of an exploration of indogenous peptide signalers. And then basically the conversation was, Hey, we see that this endogenous peptide is having this effect. How do we modify it to make it more stable and more effective for the effect that they were seeing?

[00:16:54] Um, and so C C max was from act H and drive into Cmax, which is helps [00:17:00] with learning and focus memory. Whereas, uh. The, the Sealink, um, was actually derived from Tufts then, which is an immune molecule, a fragment of IgG, um, which has antiviral capabilities. Um, and so, although the antiviral capabilities haven't been studied or nearly as advertised as much as some of the, uh, some of the effects on, you know, the neurotropic effect, um, it's still incredibly powerful after two days.

[00:17:26] Um, after detecting, uh, essentially implemented titers for two days, we've been 24 hours. Uh, there were no detectable implemented titers in the study. And, and beyond that, it is also shown to help treat herpes simplex virus. Um, and so both the, you know, it can be used as both a preventative treatment strategy and in the case of influenza, but then also a treatment strategy in the case of things like herpes simplex.

[00:17:49] So it has a, a lot of different, uh, immune mechanisms, but mainly just as a support for Tufts. Then. Um, which is immunostimulatory. Okay. Give the a dosing protocol and we have to go back and give the [00:18:00] dosing protocol of O three, seven. I forgot to ask you that question. So give the dosing protocol of the . So most people will do around 1.2 milligrams nasally.

[00:18:08] This is one of the very, very few peptides, which is actually more stable in, in your body as a nasal peptide rather than a subcutaneous. Um, and so we always recommend going, uh, via the nasal route. Um, and usually about 1.2 milligrams daily. A lot of people might do that twice a day if they're in a situation that they are at high risk.

[00:18:27] Um, and you know, wants it to be, you know. More cautious in terms of how the dose, and you can't really overdo it. You can do this up to three or four times a day without issue. And clinical studies have shown that. Um, and then going back to the L 37, that's a little bit more difficult. You know, they'll all 37 is, um, you know, as much as we talked about, some of it's, it's positive, but we also should also mentioned that, um, it can also have some, some negative effects if you have any type of autoimmune or cancer predisposition.

[00:18:55] And so, uh, I would recommend caution there. Um, but, but if you are going to use it, [00:19:00] particularly in treatment, usually we'd recommend a hundred to 150 micrograms twice daily. Right? And for those who use LL three seven with autoimmune disorders, you'll see them worsened for a while. In fact, I have a, a girl who contacted me once who had, what is that called?

[00:19:14] Rosacea, the redness of the skin, and she was using it and she said, it's gotten worse. And I said, yeah, I've heard that back down your dose. So really the, again, some people. You know, we have to stop thinking of. Ourselves as some uniform monolith of, of human beings. We are all so different and so unique.

[00:19:37] Really. I don't care if I have another Italian guy whose parents were from the same area of Italy as mine, but the life experiences, things you've been exposed to, the microbiota that you've picked up along the way. We are all unique and no one wants to hear this because no one wants to be told you're going to have to work and find your own magic.

[00:19:57] Because that's really it. So maybe 50 micrograms [00:20:00] is all you need, a Velo three, seven, where you don't get any, um, unwanted effects, but at least you're upregulating that peptide in your body and you're protecting yourself against some of these threats. What do you think about. Yeah, absolutely. You know, one of the other things though, 37, is that, um, you know, for short courses in low doses, you know, it, it's, it's a natural product, right?

[00:20:22] Um, and it can be increased in these tissues. And so you're not talking about huge doses for long extended periods of time. This is something that, uh, can definitely help as we were talking about virus protection. Right. Uh, so let's see here. I want us to make sure we're not pissing up any questions. Uh, what is the a fourth peptide.

[00:20:42] So the, the fourth one is a, actually not a peptide. It's a small molecule drug, uh, that we sort of lumped in there. But, um, it's the Pinta Zam poly sulfate defenders and probably saw fades, another FDA approved drug, which is typically done, uh, orally, um, through, um, for interstitial [00:21:00] cystitis or reducing some of that bladder information, inflammation.

[00:21:03] Um, it's also been studied recently, uh, and used a lot by a lot of our clinicians, um, in. You use for osteoarthritis? You know, there's some good research coming out of Australia and we've had some fantastic results on it. You know, it's been used in, in the horse and racing industry for a long, long time. I would osteoarthritis.

[00:21:22] And so, um, that is, uh, so we've been doing it. They are, but it also has good data at reducing viral entry into cells. What it's able to do, or it should say poly sulfates as a class are able to sort of envelop one of the spikes, so to speak, on, on viral cells or envelope viral cells. And, uh, by, by sort of.

[00:21:41] Creating a physical barrier. They're unable to get into, uh, the cell membrane and therefore deposit. You need a type of viral load. Um, one of the big things I should also note is that, uh, you know, this is the same reason it's so, it's so effective for these envelope viruses. You know, people will say, wash your hands, but it's especially important in [00:22:00] this regard because.

[00:22:01] Uh, you create those mice cells, which lights the membrane of the virus and they essentially become unprotected. Um, and so, uh, the cell membranes of these viruses in coronavirus in particular, uh, you know, is, is definitely a treatment strategy. And we're seeing that with both the preventive strategy of washing your hands as well.

[00:22:18] Isn't it funny? We still have to tell people to wash their hands. I mean, definitely. I mean, the black plague was transmitted, you know, from hand to mouth. In the 13 hundreds ironically, the black plague started in China, killed 25 billion people in the Mediterranean and Asia lands. It started in China. And here we have another fire, another virus starting in China that's wreaking havoc on the world.

[00:22:41] So one of my favorite facts about the, uh, the black prep flag is that, uh, it sort of spawned, um, the  uh, hemochromatosis, uh, because, uh, having increased iron would actually re, uh, reduce macrophages, uh, or increased macrophage response to the black plague. And so you, that's why you see a lot of people with Irish to [00:23:00] save having either chromosomes.

[00:23:01] Really, that's fascinating. That's fascinating. Uh, okay, so, uh, poly, uh, uh,

[00:23:11] thank you, Pat. The same poly sulfate. And how would you use that? Is that, that's injectable. It is injectable as well. Um, and in most of the time, people will do around a two milligrams per kilogram twice weekly. Um, so it's again, one of those other ones you don't have to dose on a daily basis. Okay. Okay.

[00:23:27] And then, uh, and then there was a fifth one. Oh yeah, we're fitting. One is one that I thought it should be included. Um, but it's mechanism actually very, very similar to time. It's an alpha one, you know, um, in addition to some other mechanisms, we don't know. And that's the time is some beta for, it's another one that's probably more popular for other reasons for repair and recovery.

[00:23:46] I know that, uh, you know, I think even you and I have talked about it on here before. Um, but the was beta four. It's one that's been using, you know, I hate to say it, sports stoping for a long time. It's also FDA approved. For treatment of some, some, uh, some eye [00:24:00] diseases and can also help with cornea repairs.

[00:24:02] I think you've talked about before as well. I've used it, you guys, you guys made it an eyedrop for me. Yeah, absolutely. And how it works, you know. I have no sulcus. There's no dividend. My corny and I have some scarring, but that's inevitable. But, uh, there was, uh, no, uh, imperfections in my cornea when it healed.

[00:24:22] Yeah. Well, that's good. And I think it definitely has some good data. You know, even in dry, I mean, it's got some, yes, it can actually cure dry eye if you use TimesTen beta for. Uh, eyedrops for about six to eight months. It will actually have a continuing effect for years thereafter. It actually has an ability to reverse whatever causes the dry eye to begin with.

[00:24:44] Double a and, and, you know, it's, uh, my, the main takeaway there is, I think it's just, it's very, very pleiotropic. It does so many different things. I mean, we have people who use it for traumatic brain injury, peripheral neuropathy, um, you know, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue. It's got a lot of different mechanisms.

[00:25:00] [00:24:59] One of the other mechanisms though, is it can actually increase ILA team, which increases interferon gamma, which causes this other . You know, sort of immune response and increased immune response, which helps fight these cells into the work. In a way, it's similar to them. It's an alpha. Michelle's notes got patents and things like HIV.

[00:25:16] I'm not exactly sure of the exact mechanism by which you can help treat HIV or AIDS, but I obviously, you know, as we're talking about some of these reverse transcriptase virus, uh, that would be something to speculate on as well. Well, when you look at AIDS. What do people actually die from? They die from kikexia.

[00:25:32] They die of wasting away. And that's why back in the 80s, when AIDS first hit the market, people like Nelson, Virgil, uh, and others, uh, I think he was the coauthor of a, of a book called built to survive, which made its way around the gay community because what they discovered was if you maintain or build muscle.

[00:25:58] And you maintain your [00:26:00] robustness. You can, you can live with the disease. You don't have to waste the way so to speak. And those guys started to use DECA and testosterone and growth hormone and became super muscular, like bodybuilders. And they lived, they lived well beyond their counterparts who just followed the doctor's advice and went home and wasted away.

[00:26:23] I mean, assuming you don't get, uh, uh, Kaposi sarcoma. You know, which is a skin cancer that some of them get. I mean, you can live with, with AIDS by. Following a protocol that builds muscle. That's, that's an amazing thing. I mean, I talk about muscle saving lives on this show all the time, and it's true.

[00:26:43] Muscle does save lives and AIDS patients. We see this, but, but thymus and beta for is used was. Used in horse racing, originally started in horse racing. It builds red blood cells. It, it builds strength that build new blood vessels, uh, and, [00:27:00] and inroads into muscle. It's actually a pro anabolic counterpart, and so it makes sense that it would help with with AIDS.

[00:27:08] It really does. Yeah, definitely. I did another, you know, another product. We do the test Memorial Hermann's approved for HIV and AIDS and you know, increases IGF one to reduce some of that, uh, the other parts of like the viscera paucity. And so, yeah, definitely that narrative is, uh, is was one we know. Well I think, you know, it's funny.

[00:27:24] Uh, they, it was originally called eagerness and it was sold to people with AIDS. Yes. Moreland. That's where it really found its, uh, its beginning. So there you go. That's the growth hormone connection. So those are the five. Uh, components of the protocol. Do you think people need all of these? Or if let's say somebody says, look, doc, Oh, you're not, I'm sorry, you never, you didn't finish medical school, but you're all you.

[00:27:46] Oh, what if somebody said, Oh, most doc, you know, I could only afford three of these, which three should I get? So I would focus on prophylaxis, right? Cause you're increasing that immune system. Um, and, and you know, [00:28:00] you can't beat the thymus. An Apple one. I think that that mishap one, just due to all of its effect is definitely one that I would recommend.

[00:28:06] Um, beyond that, the seen link is one that is relatively . Expensive, um, it can be done nasally and, and so I like those two, uh, as sort of the bare minimum. So is it the ones that I would recommend? Um, you know, until the other ones, you know, the other one with the unique mechanism of action is the all 37. Um, and, and so I think that, you know, having those three as a, uh, as sort of the baseline is really, really interesting and, uh, can, can definitely help, uh, you know, with this prophylaxis preventing the spread.

[00:28:34] So I want to take a break and when we come back, I want to talk about the 6 million pound gorilla, purple gorilla in the room. And that is why we don't hear anyone at the CDC or within the medical orthodoxy or any other groups out there talking about this right here. Because. The research is there. The research has been done by noted universities like [00:29:00] Harvard, Boston medical, that show that these peptides can fight off, uh, both, uh, influenza and random viruses, as well as in the case of LL three, seven reverse transcripted viruses.

[00:29:13] Why are we not hearing anybody? Why? Why is no one treating their patients with this? I want to talk about that when we come back. Okay. Absolutely  we're joined today by Ryan Smith. He, uh, is the main, uh, the grand Poobah over a tailor made compounding. If you're a physician listening to this show and you're thinking, wow, these peptides sound interesting, there's two things you need to do.

[00:29:34] The first thing you need to do is go over to the international peptide society, which is peptide society.org and become certified. To prescribe these, but if you feel like you're ready to prescribe now you've done some research, you think you understand them, reach out to tailor-made compounding. They're right here in my home state, Nicholasville, Kentucky.

[00:29:52] How wonderful is that? And you can fill prescriptions through them for your patients. And that's [00:30:00] where it all starts there. There's magic in peptides. Magic. Stay tuned. You are listening to this superhuman channel where ripped and we're ready.

[00:30:13] Welcome back. We're talking with Ryan Smith from tailor made compounding about protocols that can not only help protect you, but perhaps even be used as a therapy if you already have a virus. And in the case of coven 19. These should work for that as well. So what's going on here, Ryan? I mean, you're, you're on that side of the fence.

[00:30:38] You know, you're, you're on the side of the fence of the pharmaceutical industry, although you're like the redheaded stepchild. The pharmaceutical industry hates what you're doing, uh, because what you're doing works and they're not making any money at it. Why? Why don't we hear more? Talk about these peptides.

[00:30:54] You know, I, I think, uh, I honestly questions, I don't know, you know, things like the thumb is not the one [00:31:00] and even the times a bit of, for both of those two things, we're given orphan drug approval, which means essentially they were realized to have an overwhelming effect. Right? They were sort of given preferential treatment as it relates to the FDA to go through in terms of approval.

[00:31:12] Um, and so, you know, a lot of these things, you know. I couldn't tell you why. I mean, they have JP, some favorite blue. They're just not being used because I think they're not going to be able to be monetized. Um, and the second part, I think it's, you know, uh, being sort of devil's advocate for them and saying that a lot of these things when you think about outbreaks and pandemics is, um, community implementation.

[00:31:32] Um, and I think that maybe one of them. You know, the unfortunate affects of this is that a lot of the community imputation of these things is via subcutaneous injection, which is what a lot of the population's probably a little bit unfamiliar with, and maybe a little bit afraid of. Yeah. But they're going to get a vaccine.

[00:31:47] They're going to get us an intramuscular injection with a bunch of things in it that they don't even know. You know, I am not an anti-vaxxer vaccines work through the hermetic process. We know this back in during the black plague, [00:32:00] they figured out that if you scrape the wounds. And then scratch someone's skin and put it on them.

[00:32:05] They develop a fever. It wasn't enough to kill them, and that that made their immune system stronger. And once they got better from that, then they were basically inoculated. And so they said, well, we can leverage this phenomenon, and that's a good thing. But the problem is. And that the pharmaceutical industry had to make multi injections, a shelf, stable vials.

[00:32:24] And a lot of what goes into vaccines have nothing to do with the vaccine working, but have more to do with the fact that it has to sit on a shelf someplace, not develop bacteria, uh, and stay intact for a couple of years at a time. I remember, uh, one of the, was it the swine flu. That all the swine flu was expired in countries like Italy and the vaccines were expired, like in Italy and places, and the manufacturer just said, okay, we extended, we extend the shelf life another two years.

[00:32:55] It was like they wave the wand over it and it was okay. So you know, it's [00:33:00] really vaccines work. They absolutely can work, but it's the other stuff they put in them that I've wanted to do with profitable manufacturing, that all what can potentially hurt people. Absolutely. And extending the expiration dates, just to give an example of the profitability, right.

[00:33:14] The reason they expanded it is they had that data the entire time, right? But they knew it was stable, but they wanted to sell more in case it expired. And so it shows sort of a, you know, how they, the, the exploration is used as even in profitability, but how all of that is used to profitability, which is a, you know, another reason that, uh, it's a little bit more difficult here for, for, uh, people to make a profit on and therefore you don't see it as much.

[00:33:37] It's interesting. So, um. Are you seeing any people or doctors prescribing these, this protocol for patients who are concerned? Like, my daughter just texted me that there's a, you know, people who have been identified in New York, what should I do? Like are you seeing doctors starting to go, okay, we have a protocol you can use.

[00:34:00] [00:33:59] Absolutely. And we've, we've seen this, uh, um, on actually a very, very large scale, even before we, we, you know, sent out things that had shown antiviral activity. Um, we saw this. I mean, we've had people who've been interested in buying, you know, 20,000 miles of times now for an entire town. Obviously, uh, you know, for us, that's a little beyond our capacity.

[00:34:20] But, um, but I think that the good news is the demand is there. People have seen these effects. I'm seeing success in these with a variety of this, whether it be implements, uh, or you know, lime or whatever it might be in terms of its effect on firewall. And this is a, and D are definitely trying to implement it.

[00:34:35] And so we are seeing a lot of people prepare, but, uh, it does, uh, you know, we don't want to stroke up a panic as well. That's one of the, you know, the worst things we can do. I always want to remind people that this still has less than 2% mortality rate, and those are all the cases which have been detected.

[00:34:48] Right. And we already know that. A lot of them are sort of asymptomatic. Um, and beyond that, testing is not where it should be. We don't even know the number of tests which have been used in the United States currently. And, uh, and so it might be a little bit more widespread [00:35:00] than we think and we not even know it.

[00:35:01] So, so I definitely want to urge people not to panic, but at the same time, it's definitely not going to be a pleasant thing and it's definitely not going to be, um, you know, uh, we're probably the infrastructure that the world has probably not set up for it. So I would recommend caution and paying attention to this.

[00:35:16] Wash your hands. I can't tell you the number of times I'm in a good restaurant and I'm standing there washing my hands and I see a guy come out of this stall and walk right past behind me and go right out the door. And then I've looked to see where it all is sitting with their family. That's the most disgusting thing in the world.

[00:35:33] Like take five frigging seconds and wash your frigging hands if you just went to the bathroom, how hard is that. Yeah. It's, it's the best form of a, you know, prophylaxis, right? It's, uh, and you know, these, these things can, if you touch anything and then you touch your eye, you essentially have the virus.

[00:35:52] You just inoculated yourself with it. Right? Or your nose. How many people pick their nose? They go like this. Well, we already deliver drugs. Intranasally you just delivered [00:36:00] a virus. Intranasally. Exactly, exactly. And so, uh, I mean, I can't stress that enough. You know, a lot of people are, are also freaking out about the lack of available facemasks.

[00:36:09] You know. Um, one thing I would like to say is that you probably can't get them on Amazon. You probably can't get them from medical providers. Uh, but you actually do have a, probably a likelihood of getting it at a home Depot or Lowe's, uh, these in 95 masks and you can go, I'm on the FDA's website in 95 masks or respirators.

[00:36:27] Oh, they're often used in construction and, and you know, whenever these, uh, whenever people were immediately searching for these things, they don't usually think about Lowe's and home Depot, but they might be there as well. So I urge people to check some of those locations if they do want to be preventative with some of those masks.

[00:36:41] When I used to ride my motorcycle in the winter time when I was in college, I used to just put a bandanna around my face because the hair and my nose would freeze when I was breathing through my nose. It's like put a bandanna around your face, you look stylish and just go out. People think, Oh my God, that's a bank robber.

[00:36:56] No, you say, no, no, I'm protecting myself from coronavirus. We have a question here [00:37:00] I don't have an answer for. I'm going to pop it up there real quick and I don't know that you have an answer for this either. But, um, Casey Morrow said his wife has been struggling with warts on her finger. She actually underwent 13 months of laser treatments and she even had the HPV vaccine and she can't get rid of her wart.

[00:37:21] Is there anything. That you know of, uh, as far as peptides go, that might help her. You know, unfortunately, I don't have much for this one. I, again, the time is now for one is, is antiviral, you know, and, and even, you know, dermatologist will still suggest things like supplementing zinc. Right? Um, and so, uh, you know, the two ones I would maybe think about is the thymus and offer one still, just because you can do no harm.

[00:37:44] It can only help. Um, and then there's also another one called , which is an immune stimulator peptide. Um, the reason I suggest that one is because zinc more than a lot of other, you know. Things have shown efficacy in wards. Um, and, uh, the diamond line [00:38:00] often complexes with zinc in the body, um, to have any time unit facts or, sorry, just stay at immune effector, antiviral effects.

[00:38:06] Um, and so that one, those would be the sort of two I would think about. But unfortunately I don't have anything specifically for that already prior experience with any of our patients. Let's take our last commercial break. When we come back, we'll wrap up the interview, uh, with Ryan and then I have, I'm going on for another half hour to talk about some other interesting stuff as it relates to.

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[00:39:37] Um, okay, so what have we missed? Obviously, what if somebody doctor wants to prescribe these, but they're not part of. Uh, the international peptide society already. Will you give them this protocol and say, Hey, this is what you need? Yeah, absolutely. Beyond that, I think we always love research and so we, we would never, ever, uh, advocate for any physicians use [00:40:00] this without looking at it thoroughly at that.

[00:40:01] The research we provide and research has been done all over the world in these conditions. And so, um, we will definitely provide that in order to help people get started and feel comfortable with, uh, with this protocol. Anything else exciting, uh, on the horizons right now with peptides that we can kind of take a peek under the, uh, the curtain.

[00:40:20] Yeah, well, yeah, you definitely, you know, there, there's always some exciting things being done. One of the ones I think that, that most people will find fascinating is, is we're about to do a mitochondrial peptide, a new mitochondria peptide called SS 31. It is a, you know, as, as we age our, you know, our, our mitochondria have an outer membrane and the inner membrane, the inner membrane is sort of shaped as a squiggly line.

[00:40:42] Um, and so all of those, those lines have the electron transport chain in them. Um, and what they are, they have them really, really closely tied path together. But as we age, this mitochondria starts to just sort of an inner membrane just starts to drift out. What the hell, what the SSD one does is essentially comes and makes sure that that membrane is close [00:41:00] together again, which basically increases ATP creation, efficiency, um, and as a result can help in.

[00:41:05] A lot of different things. It can, as we age, increased skeletal muscle mass, um, it can help with reducing foam CELTA deposition or, or risk of heart attack and stroke. It can help with a heart functioning and help with kidney functioning it up with, uh, general energy and, and, uh, one of the. The biggest things I always like to say about it is that I'm essentially one injection, just one injection is the ATP equivalent of six months of endurance training on a daily basis.

[00:41:31] Oh, dude. You know, I want some of that. Right, exactly, exactly. It's a really, really exciting one. Not just, um, you know, just because as everyone ages, they might've contributed less efficient and this is a way to, to sort of turn back the clock a lot of, uh, um, fatigue. Illnesses are related to mitochondrial dysfunction.

[00:41:51] Do you see this being used with those types of people? Yeah, absolutely. Um, you know, in addition to the sort of, the population just wants that better aging. [00:42:00] This is a way to increase ATP and efficiency. And so whenever your mitochondria needs to do its job, you can, it can actually work efficiently beyond that.

[00:42:08] Um, you know, a lot of people will try and have increased mitochondrial biogenesis, so, so how do I create more mitochondria? Right? Um, and so pairing these things with . Things that increase mitochondrial biogenesis means you get even more of an effect, which means the body is able to sort of regulate itself more appropriately.

[00:42:23] And the conditions are go everything from protecting cartilage to, uh, you know, reducing cardiovascular disease to, um, you know, increasing muscle mass, decreasing fat mass, you name it, this, it's got positive data in it. Um, and so as we start to think about, you know, all the hallmarks of aging, mitochondrial dysfunction being one of them, this is a really, really exciting product that can span just about every specialty of medicine.

[00:42:45] So. How often would you use it? How long do you use it? And once you stop using it, do all the gains go away? Yeah, it's looking like the, that, uh, they have some effect for a degree of time, but it's one of those, you sort of have to continually dose, [00:43:00] um, like, like many drugs, most of the studies done in these patients have not been done on healthy patients, but people who are training.

[00:43:08] Exactly. And so knowing the appropriate dose, he's a little bit difficult. Um, you know, most of our practitioners are, are now starting to do it at around a 10 milligram dose on a daily basis. Um, and then doing that once or, or, or, you know, or twice or two months out of the year or three months out of the year, you know, there doesn't seem to be, uh, really a huge side effect profile.

[00:43:28] Uh, and it seems to be really, really exciting. So that's one I would definitely put on the list and one that we're excited about rolling out. Would you stack it with NAD plus. Uh, you know, there's no reason not to, you know, uh, as we talk about, again, aging, we know that all of the things that NAD does in terms of the are two ends, the PARPs, uh, you know, the immune cell function, uh, as well as just general, general energy and, and, and, and maintenance.

[00:43:51] And so I don't think that there's a reason you wouldn't, but, uh, a lot of times I think that, that if you had to pick one, I think that this is, everyone probably has some additional benefit that entity wouldn't. That's [00:44:00] very cool. Ryan, thanks so much for being here today and talk about this. This is really an important topic and I hope that people share this show, uh, either the podcast on my website, uh, or this, uh, Facebook, uh, because we can actually have an impact on saving some lives.

[00:44:13] I really believe that. Absolutely, and I appreciate you having me on. I don't have any questions. They can always reach out to us at  dot com deco. All right. Thanks brother. Uh, we're going to take our last commercial break. And, uh, when we come back, I'm going to talk about some other things that play a role in covert 19.

[00:44:33] And this is easy stuff. You may not have to spend much money either. Stay tuned. This is the superhuman channel where we use oxygen for the power of good fucking back. So here's a little secret . There's something you can do

[00:44:57] that won't cost a lot of money, require a doctor's [00:45:00] prescription, and there's clear evidence that it will work against covert 19 I've been talking about little bits and pieces of it all week, but I'm going to wrap it up all to Gaye together because the show is only about covert 19 coronavirus. So there are studies that show that LL three seven has the ability to arrest replication of reverse transcripted viruses like covert 19, uh, HIV and Ebola would that those studies are done.

[00:45:30] The, the university of, uh, Karolinska in Sweden. These are great, high level, double blinded placebo studies. So this is not, you know, fake stuff on some website where people are saying, Oh, just, you know, eat, eat more potatoes, or something like that. But LL three seven is an injectable peptide. Well, LL three seven is a downstream metabolite of watt vitamin D three [00:46:00] and.

[00:46:02] We see the closer you get to the equator, the national institutes of health did a study on the country of Brazil because it's about the same size as the United States, but it's long and the North most region is on the equator and the further South you go, it gets colder. So they wanted to see what viral transmission was like in Brazil.

[00:46:30] Now in the United States and other countries, viral transmission is usually in highly densely populated areas, I. E. big cities, but. In Brazil, we don't see the viral transmission in the big cities, which are pretty much all in the North, close to the sun. We actually see them in the less densely populated rural areas, which are down in the South.

[00:46:59] So this is [00:47:00] completely antithetical to the way viruses are transmitted. So. The NIH did a study and they looked at it and without saying that it was the sun, they really showed a study that shows the closer to the sun, the quote closer to the equator, you are, there's less viral activity and definitely less transmission.

[00:47:27] Now remember I just said LL three seven is increased because vitamin D three is increased in vitamin D three is increased from the sun. Now we hear everybody saying covert 19 will probably go away once it gets warm. And people think that means, Oh, it doesn't like the hot weather. It doesn't like the temperature, but that's not it.

[00:47:50] What helps happens when it's warm, the sun is out and we wear shorts and we wear short sleeve shirts, and maybe we even lay in the sun and we get more vitamin D, [00:48:00] and if we get motivated more vitamin D, you would think that we would have more LL three seven right? But that's the missing link until a study done by a Harvard.

[00:48:12] Medical school where they took 30 people in an ICU who had sepsis, and again, I'll repeat, sepsis has around a 50% mortality rate. It's a very, very dangerous blood poisoning. And they said, well, we know that LL three seven has these ability, the ability to, to, to eradicate these types of infections. So theoretically.

[00:48:38] Giving someone a bolus dose or would they call a hammer dose of vitamin D three let's see if it raises LL three seven if affects the outcome of these 30 ICU patients who were really getting ready to die. Well, guess what? They gave them 200,000 IUs in one dose. LL three [00:49:00] seven went up in a dose dependent basis, and all 30 of those patients got over their sepsis.

[00:49:06] So now we say, okay, viruses don't seem to be a problem when there's a lot of sun D three increases, I'm sorry, and I, LL three seven is produced as a result of the D three produced in the sun, but it's also produced when you take D three orally in fairly large doses. So this means that if you connect the dots that taking high doses of vitamin D three will upregulate LL three seven and remember we even have a study that shows LL three seven stop the replication of HIV, which is also a reverse transcripted virus, just like covert 19.

[00:49:50] So really at the end of the day, you just need to start taking very large doses of vitamin D three but people are afraid to, they go, Oh, you know, [00:50:00] I heard I'll get kidney stones, or, um, is it dangerous to take too much vitamin D three? My doctor said it's a, it's a fat soluble. No, it's not. And I'll prove it to you.

[00:50:15] You go on vacation to the beach, you go to Mexico, you go to Florida, you and the family lays on the beach. For two or three days, you'll produce 200,000 IUs of vitamin D three by laying on the, on the out in the beach for the weekend. Now, of course, if you get a sunburn, that's a problem. You actually burn your skin.

[00:50:36] But the accumulation of vitamin D three doesn't cause you any problems with anything. You feel great. You you want to, when you go home, you feel better about your life because D three is good for us. So don't be so afraid of . If you're fair-skinned, you generally need less D three to see a river or a rise in 25 hydroxy, which is the magic hormone made from

[00:51:00] [00:51:00] If you're dark skinned like me, we usually have more binding protein, so you need higher doses. So dark skin people can take 10,000 to 20,000 IUs a day. No problem. And fair-skinned people could probably take three to 5,000 I'll use a day and get the same rise in 25 hydroxy has a dark skin person like myself, has to take 20,000 so get yourself some D three no one's paying attention to this.

[00:51:26] Everybody's buy a masks, hand sanitizer, all this other stuff. You don't need that. What you need to do is a get out in the sun if possible, and if that's not possible, take fairly large doses of vitamin D three every single day. Science shows that this will work, and I will put the links up in today's show of all three of the studies that I pieced together that show.

[00:51:52] D three raises Elta LL three seven LL three seven can stop the replication of reverse transcripted, uh, [00:52:00] viruses. Now, why isn't anybody talking about this when they say these are seasonal, why aren't they talking about the sun? Oh wait, I know why. Because the dermatologist keep telling people to stay out of this sun.

[00:52:14] They're stupid skin cancer doesn't come from the sun. It comes from your diet. Doctors know that there are foods you can eat that will protect you against getting skin cancer. Vitamin a. carotenoids are the two most popular, real vitamin a, you know, retinal that actually will protect you from getting skin cancer.

[00:52:34] Well, why not take the next step and say, if there's foods that'll keep you from getting skin cancer, of course they make their way into the skin. Then there must be foods that will actually promote skin cancer because they make their way into your skin. The sun is an unwanted, uh, an an unwilling participant in the development of your skin cancer.

[00:52:57] Your skin cancer is [00:53:00] coming exclusively from your diet. So don't, don't listen to the dermatologist telling you to stay out of the sun because you won't get skin cancer. And you know what. I'd rather be 90 years old and wrinkly than have perfect skin and die and obviously blocking the skin. The sun isn't helping people with skin cancer, otherwise, all these people who use sunblock would never get skin cancer and they don't.

[00:53:31] But that's it. There's the magic vitamin D three start loading up on it. Now your kids load up on it. Now everybody, you know, spread the word. Start taking vitamin D three this is not make-believe. Again, I will post all three of these studies in today's show, post on the website so that you can share it around important stuff.

[00:53:56] Okay? That's it for today. We'll see you tomorrow. [00:54:00]