[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] Hey, Hey, welcome back to another episode of super human radio. And today is a really important show, especially if you're aging like me and you want to age gracefully. We have to thank our title sponsor, uh, legendary foods. Eat legendary.com is their website. They have the new tasty pastry, which is the guilt free.

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[00:01:13] Like in a restaurant. If you're trying to read the menu, for instance. And my guest today is Leslie Burke. She holds the distinction of being my longest running sponsor on this show. She's been a sponsor of this show for probably pretty close to the entire 14 years that I've been producing it. How are you doing, Leslie?

[00:01:30] Nice to see you. I'm

[00:01:32] Leslie Burke: [00:01:32] doing great. I have the hair color. The curb.

[00:01:34] Carl Lanore: [00:01:34] Yeah. There you go. We both do. I got to, I'm getting mine colored tomorrow. It's all gray right now. I've got my hair cut and color set up

[00:01:42] Leslie Burke: [00:01:42] a few years ago.

[00:01:43] Carl Lanore: [00:01:43] But you know what? It really looks good on you because you are always blonde anyway, so it's just kind of a, it's just like a variation of blonde now.

[00:01:50] Yeah,

[00:01:51] Leslie Burke: [00:01:51] yeah, I guess so. I, I, I've been many colors. Karl, as most of us women have been so.

[00:01:57] Carl Lanore: [00:01:57] You know what I find really interesting? Have you seen some of the [00:02:00] kids with the gray hair? The gray is in, like, they,

[00:02:04] Leslie Burke: [00:02:04] that

[00:02:05] Carl Lanore: [00:02:05] color is a color that that young lady strive to obtain. Yeah.

[00:02:10] Leslie Burke: [00:02:10] I planned it that way.

[00:02:11] Carl Lanore: [00:02:11] Yeah. Good for you.

[00:02:12] Good for you. So, um, there's, there's a, there's this little sneaky tell about age. You know, we can color our hair, we can stay in great shape, uh, you know, do all sorts of great things cosmetically to look better. But one of the sneaky little tells that creeps out is our eyes. Uh, right now it's estimated over 24 million adults suffer from something called night blindness.

[00:02:37] And, uh, it's, it's really a annoying little thing. Uh, it's called Nick the , if you want the technical name. The CDC, the NIH says that, uh, by the age of 75, 50% of people will suffer from night blindness. And what it does is it does two things to us. A lot of older people stop driving [00:03:00] because of the glare of oncoming headlights.

[00:03:03] Blinds them so completely that they literally lose view of the road and the line. They're not sure if they're in the lane, out of the lane. They get panicked. They don't want to drive anymore. Uh, so that's, that's terrible. Once you lose your independence, you can't drive anymore. Changes your life dramatically.

[00:03:20] The other thing it does that's a little less dangerous, but equally annoying is, you know, you go someplace to a restaurant. And everybody at your table is reading the menu, but you've got to get your iPhone out and you've got to hit the little flashlight app because you just need that little extra light to be able to break through the cloudiness of the crystalline lens.

[00:03:41] And we'll talk about night blindness not associated with retinal issues or optic nerve issues. We're talking about what is considered traditional night blindness, and this is an area of expertise that you've spent a very, very long time, and you, you see this a lot, don't you, with the people that reach out to you.

[00:03:59] Leslie Burke: [00:03:59] Well, [00:04:00] yes. And, and as I was, uh, saying to you earlier, Carl, it really is a, a symptom of the decline of health, of the eye, of the aging process, of the eye. It's not always a cataract. It can just be the aging lens, you know, um, the lens, as we know, thickens as we get older. Um, but it is very. Disturbing and it's not something to be ignored.

[00:04:23] Um, it's definitely a tell of what's happening to the health of your eyes. Um, dr , the Russian doctor that I've worked with for many, many years, um, actually developed a device to test the halos from light night blindness. Okay. So like when you're driving and you see those weird halos and distortions of oncoming lights, that's a form of.

[00:04:46] Night blindness. Um, and he was actually able to major this kind of, uh, intangible thing, you know, to major, uh, which is what degree of night blindness do you have? [00:05:00] Well, good luck measuring that. And he developed something called the halo meter, but the hollow meter. Um, and with that device, um, was he, he was kind of exploring, uh, the, the early symptoms of.

[00:05:15] The loss of vision and night blindness was one of his key focus points, um, for his research. Uh, trying to find out what was causing this, what deficiencies or imbalances were leading to it. Um, which is, which led ultimately to the development of the product that I've worked with for so many years. But, um, it is

[00:05:40] Excuse me, I'm gonna lose my voice.

[00:05:42] Carl Lanore: [00:05:42] Don't worry.

[00:05:43] Leslie Burke: [00:05:43] Hopefully it's not the Corona virus.

[00:05:47] Carl Lanore: [00:05:47] I know you're in Washington state, right? I mean, know.

[00:05:50] Leslie Burke: [00:05:50] Yeah, I'm up here in the, in the epicenter.

[00:05:53] Carl Lanore: [00:05:53] Um,

[00:05:54] Leslie Burke: [00:05:54] so, um, yeah, I think it's a really interesting topic for the show today. Um. [00:06:00] Because it does impact so many things. I mean, you can actually lose your license over this.

[00:06:05] Um, which is a huge fear for people. Yeah. Um, but it can also be an indicator of beginning cataract. Right? So, you know, there's several things to be aware of when you know, and you want to pay attention to it. It's not, don't go into hopelessness. Uh, there are some wonderful options. Um, but if you're, if your blood sugars are off, if your.

[00:06:27] You know, hypoglycemic or you're pre-diabetic, a lot of those things can lead to that early symptom. Um, and that can be corrected.

[00:06:36] Carl Lanore: [00:06:36] So interestingly enough, I have been starting to connect dots over the past three or four years, I've really been, uh, on a, on a, a mission to understand the origins of autoimmune disorders.

[00:06:50] A lot of people with autoimmune disorders have gut problems. Those gut problems also lead to. Uh, acid reflux, regular [00:07:00] episodes of acid reflux. These people end up with inflammatory lung disorders because they are literally aspirating the acid that's coming up from their stomach day in and day out. Now that's acid, that acid over time, if it's untreated, if they don't fix their gut and they have this constant.

[00:07:22] Let's say five or six bouts a day where they're belching and this acid is coming up, this, this, this atomized chime that's in the gut along with acid is coming up. Over time, they start to develop. Sinus problems, you know, their nose is always stuffed. Well, the other problem is that their eyes start to get dry.

[00:07:44] You know, after a couple years of this constant caustic barrage of gases hitting the the skull and the oral cavity, the eyes, then these people start to suffer from dry eye. It's called idiopathic dry eye. [00:08:00] And a lot of them are given drops. It just gets worse and worse and worse. They get corneal thinning from it, and it's a downward spiral from there.

[00:08:08] And I've started to question the possibility that this caustic environment isn't absolutely has the potential to dry out the crystalline lens faster maybe than just normal aging. The NIH says, get used to it. Night blind. This is part of aging, but there's a lot of people out there that don't have night blindness that are 80 years old.

[00:08:29] So clearly there's something different. And I started to question the linkage between esophageal reflux disorders, sinus problems, and dry eye.

[00:08:43] Leslie Burke: [00:08:43] Well, as we know, everything comes from the gut. I mean, yes, it was the starting point for health. Um, if that isn't right, you're kind of, you know. You're treating symptoms and reactions of that imbalance.

[00:08:56] I, I totally am in agreement with you. It's so interesting what you [00:09:00] say, Carl, because, um, there's a famous doctor, dr lat canny who wrote a book called dry eye syndrome and his theory, um, and he's a famous eye doctor. He, um, his theory is that almost every degenerative eye condition is a result of unchecked dry ice syndrome.

[00:09:20] But that imbalance causes the decline of everything else. It depletes all the I's resources because we know the minute the eye is at all dry you, you've shifted from an alkaline state into a very acidic state. Okay? And the eye is probably the most sensitive organ in the body. To that imbalance, the eye has to be alkaline.

[00:09:43] I simply advise people occasionally to, um, just get a good lubricant. Um, use an eyewash to check the bacteria load. And oddly, within days, they start seeing vision improvements just by. [00:10:00] Kind of supporting that balance now. Now what you're saying, you know, see, again, I'm treating the react, the, the result of possibly a stomach problem.

[00:10:10] Right, right. Um, but I'm, I'm dealing with it. Right? What, by giving that kind of advice to people, but people are just shocked because what happens also when the eye is a little more acidic is the bacteria load in the eye goes up, no, whatever remaining immune responses are functioning in the eye are completely taken up with fighting that extra bacteria load instead of healing and repairing the eye, right?

[00:10:35] So if you have a degenerative condition starting, it's going to go downhill very fast. Because of that kind of imbalance, and that's the one thing we know about the eyes that it can, it can improve very quickly. It has a very fast healing response. If you know the homeostasis is good, the balance is good, but it can also go down and you can lose your vision.

[00:10:56] People sometimes say, they'll say, I feel like I lost my vision [00:11:00] overnight. Right? You know, it happened very quickly, you know, all of a sudden they just can't see. You know? Well, so many times. It's just that simple balance. It's, it's amazing how well the eye responds when you get the balance right.

[00:11:13] Carl Lanore: [00:11:13] Yeah. It's a very delicate, I don't know if you know this, but I had a corneal ulcer last year.

[00:11:18] I was wearing a contact lens. I felt like there was something. Under the lens. I was in the car. I couldn't pull

[00:11:24] Leslie Burke: [00:11:24] over.

[00:11:26] Carl Lanore: [00:11:26] I just pulled the lens down once and let it go up and whatever was under there just caused a scratch across the cornea. I went to the doctor, she said, um, no contact lenses. I had a trip planned to go to Indianapolis that had a drive for, I didn't want to drive with one contact lens.

[00:11:42] I asked her, she gave me a very, very high, a hydrophilic lens to where on the right eye, and she gave me some eyedrops that were. A steroid based eyedrops. She told me to put them on three times a day. I use them like a lubricant. I was using them. I use the whole bottle in two days. The [00:12:00] bottle should have lasted me two weeks.

[00:12:02] It basically put the immune system of my right eye to sleep and I contracted a fungal infection. That gave me a very large. Corneal ulcer, but I used, uh, techniques including Kancey eyedrops. And to this day, they can't believe I have. I have a little bit of a scar that creates just a tiny little bit of double vision up at the 10 o'clock area of my peripheral vision.

[00:12:30] But other than that, I'm, I'm, I'm pretty much back to normal now. I, they told me, they were telling me corneal transplant, and I'm like, I don't want a corneal transplant. Don't I have to use. Uh, uh, steroids for the rest of my life. And I'll never forget it. The doctor well-meaning says, yeah, I says, but then I'll develop a cataract.

[00:12:48] And he said, well, we have a surgery for that. And I'm like, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. What are you talking about? We have a surgery for that. I says, nah. He says, I'll, I'll live with the eye the way it is and I'm shooting. I [00:13:00] mean, I still go to the range and I hunt and I do all the thing. Yeah.

[00:13:03] But it's because I did, I used my Kanzi eyedrops every day, twice a day. And I, you also use . Eyedrops made with something called pharmas and beta four, which are great studies now showing it can completely and permanently reverse dry eye, but it's not approved yet by the FDA for that use. But there are clinical trials and I happen to have a connection with a pharmacy and they made it for me and, and that really changed the outcome of my eye.

[00:13:31] Otherwise, I would be pretty much blind in my right eye right now.

[00:13:34] Leslie Burke: [00:13:34] So are you still using that product, Carl ?

[00:13:37] Carl Lanore: [00:13:37] I make it occasionally. Now. I make it myself. Uh, um, and I, yeah, I buy, I buy the raw thymus and beta for peptide from a company called peptide sciences, and I put it into a buffered aqueous saline solution with no preservatives.

[00:13:55] So I keep it refrigerated and I'll use two drops a day. Uh, for a couple of [00:14:00] weeks and then I'm done. And I just do it every so often. And just, and I, cause I started to get dry from the cornea, he said to me, yeah, you'll probably get dry eye because of the trauma. And I don't have dry eye at all. I'm, I'm wearing a hydrophylic contact lens and it's fine.

[00:14:14] So that time was in beta for really does work.

[00:14:16] Leslie Burke: [00:14:16] Yeah. Yeah, that's good to know. I think you've mentioned that to me before and I need to do more research on that because, um, there's so many people and, um, but I tell you, if you have not suffered with chronic dry eye problem, you just don't have a clue how debilitating it can be.

[00:14:32] Um, and just imagine sand in your eyes, basically your eyes feeling like you can't close your lids over your eye and you know, people are having to put lubricants in, you know. Constantly during the day. Women can't wear their makeup. They're messing with eyewash as there. I mean, it is, it is a really painful, um, debilitating.

[00:14:53] It really disrupts your lifestyle. Um, if you have chronic dry eye, and unfortunately. Uh, [00:15:00] that is a very common outcome. Post ocular surgery.

[00:15:05] Carl Lanore: [00:15:05] Um,

[00:15:07] Leslie Burke: [00:15:07] the know my opinion. Um, I think that is something that really should be communicated better to people because often surgeries are being conducted just for, you know, there, it's not a car at a critical point.

[00:15:21] Yeah, uh, and we're going in and having ice surgeries, um, maybe to improve something that's already still functioning or still functioning. Okay. Um, and so, um. There are, you know, these surgeries are amazing. They have really come a long way, but they are not without risks.

[00:15:41] Carl Lanore: [00:15:41] No, I got it. So AB Jones, who also said he recently purchased some Cassie eyedrops and is hoping it helps.

[00:15:47] He says, I sit in front of a computer for hours a day and recently switched contact brands that are designed to hold moisture. I think it helps, but I probably need a new job. [00:16:00] What role does a, what we do right now, every day, sit in front of our computer, sit with our, a phone in front of our face. Is that contributing anything you think to the, the changing opacity of, of the crystalline lens?

[00:16:12] Leslie Burke: [00:16:12] Oh yeah. That blue light, I mean that light coming from the computer screens, um, is very damaging. Um, I, when I first started working in this business, I, I lost, I felt like I lost my vision within four months cause I was actually doing, um, I was actually doing coding. For a website I was building and that that staring at that screen with your eyes open for long periods of time, it's like you can just see your vision leading you.

[00:16:40] It just starts going away from, you can see, we saw, can see two thousands of computer programmers. Um, because it does help tremendously. Now again, when you stretch your eyes like that on a daily basis, um, and they're, they're getting dried out. So [00:17:00] there's several things that we would recommend you would want to do higher dosing of Kanzi in the beginning.

[00:17:04] Cause what you're doing is you're re-establishing. And essential amino acid that becomes depleted when the eyes are stressed. Um, and we know this from the research that was conducted in Russia, and, uh, so simply by re-establishing optimal, and it's L-carnosine. A levels in the eye, um, and in the eye lens, um, you arm the eye or equip it to heal and repair and recover better.

[00:17:32] Um, so the drops themselves aren't really doing anything other than re-establishing the eye's own system of recovery to its optimal level. When we stress the eyes, we take that away from the eye. So, so yes, to answer his question, it would be tremendous for him. I would also suggest using a preservative free lubricant, um, throughout the day.

[00:17:54] Um, and of course, most computer programmers know this, but taking your eyes off the screen and [00:18:00] looking at a distance, you know,

[00:18:01] Carl Lanore: [00:18:01] that goes to show that. So that's phenomenon and see, I'm nearsighted, right? And so when I grew up as a kid, I sat in front of the TV. You know, I very rarely looked off in the distance.

[00:18:15] No. So, so what people need to understand is that the crystalline lens has a, uh, is harnessed by muscles that are attached to it. And they pull and push to change the refractive ability of the lens. It, it gets, it gets thinner to see far away. It gets thicker. The base curve changes to see up close and it's doing this all day long.

[00:18:40] When you're sitting in front of a computer and you're just staring at this, it's locked in that position. They give your muscle. If you picked up a dumbbell and just held it here, how long could you actually hold it there before it starts? The tax, the shoulder has to start working now and all the other muscles have to make up for it cause the bicep just wants to let go.

[00:18:57] Yeah, yes. [00:19:00] And it actually changes the shape of the globe of the eye because it's pulling on the eye. Is this globe that all these muscles inside are pulling on. And so what happens is when you sit and look at something up close, it changes the shape of the eye to a football instead of a sphere. And this has been associated with near nearsightedness because people have more of a football shaped

[00:19:25] Leslie Burke: [00:19:25] vision.

[00:19:26] Yeah. You give up your distance vision to be on those computer screens all day long is what you're, your sacrifice. That's the sacrifice you're making. Um, and the thing with can see, as I said, is, you know, again, you're, you're establishing the El carnosine levels, which. Supports the health of those muscles.

[00:19:42] Okay. And that focusing response. Um, and when I say at do a preservative free lubricant in between, because can't see, there is a dose there. You don't want to go above it. You'll, you know, you want to do a dose every day. You want to be consistent every day. But the good news is, as soon as you get those levels reestablished and you know how you [00:20:00] tell when the levels are reestablished.

[00:20:02] You start seeing better, and it's usually within 90 days. I mean, this is not something we ask people to do for three years. You know, you actually start seeing the improvements quite quickly. Um, and so somewhere between that 90 day point and six month point, depending on how serious your condition is.

[00:20:20] It'll take a little longer to see the improvements if your condition is worse, um, or to see acceptable improvement, I guess I should say. Um, and so, uh, once you see those improvements, guess what? You reduce the dose down to half the recommended amount. Because once those levels are established, if you remain consistent with lower dosing, it's very easy to keep them there.

[00:20:44] And that's all you need to do because the eye is actually doing this. The eye is doing the work. You've just supported the functionality of the eye now. So, um, we're one of the few people in the world that tell people to take less. That's our product, um, as they go along. But it's [00:21:00] just very obvious. It's very clear in dr  of the Russian doctor, bless his heart.

[00:21:05] Was very serious about this. He said, you don't want the eye to be, you know, to support it in one way. There's a balance that he, he really talked about. There's other beneficial amino acids in the eye, so you don't want to just keep slamming this one big note all the time. It is important to reduce the dosing after three to six months.

[00:21:25] Uh, as soon as you see that improvement, you can be very confident and actually guess what the improvements continue, even though you lower the dosing. Just by maintaining that state. The eye is trying to find its rightful balance. It wants to be there. It's self-correcting. So just let him do the work.

[00:21:44] Keep supporting it with Kanzi and keeping the eye lubricated. Keep that pH balance good in the eye. Do an eyewash once in awhile that checks the bacteria load. Those three things, change can,

[00:21:58] Carl Lanore: [00:21:58] here's something funny, I just posted this, but [00:22:00] first of all, I want to reach out to, so we were going to answer all the questions.

[00:22:03] That are sitting here. Mike, I'm going to get your question just a second because this is exactly what can see is best for, um, but you got to give it time. See, I've been using Kanzi for almost 14 years. I noticed the difference when I take a few months off and I'm like, Oh man, I, I can't see up close. And then I started using it again.

[00:22:19] So my problem is the opposite. I use it consistently and then when I don't use it, my eyes start to get bad again. I just put up a, my grandparents had an a yellow box with a blue glass eye shaped cup that came with it and they used to wash your eyes with it. When I was a grandma, when I was a kid, I don't see that anymore.

[00:22:40] I washes,

[00:22:42] Leslie Burke: [00:22:42] you can buy them in the, in the drug store. They're usually on the bottom shelf. You get an eyewash kid. It's just saline solution with that little cup and it works beautifully. And I'll tell you once you do it. You never stopped because it feels heavenly to your eyes. You can't believe how much better you sleep.

[00:22:57] Um, it is very soothing. There's not an ounce [00:23:00] of irritation when you do this. Um, you feel your whole face relax. So you know, that solution just goes in there and soothes everything. So for anybody who does anything that stresses their, I doing an eyewash two or three times a week. I just can't stress enough.

[00:23:14] And dr let canny, the doctor who wrote the dry ice syndrome book, that was one of the techniques and one of the things he suggested for extending the longevity of your eyesight. Um, and uh, that's where I got that piece of information. I use it myself and it is just incredible.

[00:23:30] Carl Lanore: [00:23:30] So Mike, yes. Uh, if you're having trouble driving at night, that's exactly what we're talking about here.

[00:23:35] Can see his best at this sort of thing. Because what's happening is. The crystalline lens of your eye is starting to get opaque. It's like a dirty windshield. It takes time, but what the cans does is it re-establishes the and put the clarity back into the crystalline lens. It also makes it more flexible and supple, so all of a sudden you don't need the reading glasses as [00:24:00] much as you did before.

[00:24:00] You can start to see up close because those muscles that contract. And, and, and flex the crystalline lens are able to do it again. That's all when, when you develop pres by OPO, which is the, the actual term for not being able to read up close to see up close anymore, the change is the crystalline lens.

[00:24:21] Just can't flex to that 25 diopters. It used to flex to, it's stopping at at maybe you're 20 and so you, you, your arm has to get longer in order to see things. But this is where this product excels. It improves the quality of the crystalline lens, which improves the clarity of the crystalline lens, and if the clarity changes that cause night blindness, it's the clarity that causes oncoming headlights to glare instead of just that be

[00:24:52] Leslie Burke: [00:24:52] things we tell people to look for when they start using our product.

[00:24:56] Um, is they start paying attention to that [00:25:00] glare. That glare factor is one of the first things that starts to improve when the lens starts to clear up a little bit. So  you have the dr Faberge, I've described it this way. You've got, it's like you're holding a piece of gauze in front of your face, and if you stretch that piece of gauze out far enough, you can see the threads and you get, you can still see through it.

[00:25:21] And as you stretch it even further, pretty soon you're watching through it, but you don't even see the threads anymore. Okay? So, so these little lipid proteins that are sticking to the crystal and lens and sticking together, uh, and sticking all over the place, causing that clouding up response of the lens.

[00:25:39] What carnosine allows the eye to do is remove that sticky factor. That they start becoming slippery again cause they'd been floating around in your eye all your life. They weren't causing you a problem until they started sticking to the lens. Okay. So that's that glycation, what they call the glycation index.

[00:25:58] The sugar index in the eye [00:26:00] and carnosine is just beautiful. That's why it's a great supplement for people with diabetes. Okay, good. What really affects that? It's great for cardiovascular health. Okay. If you take it orally, this is a very special form of L-carnosine. They call it inositol carnosine cause it's suitable for topical application to the eye and it's very bioavailable.

[00:26:20] So not only is this, you know, floating around in your eye when you put these drops in, in the research they did, they found that they were elevating L-carnosine levels in the cornea, the retina, all the muscle systems in the eye. So, so this is why we see improvements for people with glaucoma, with macular degeneration.

[00:26:39] It's an under mental amino acid that the eye must have to heal and repair. And you know,

[00:26:45] Carl Lanore: [00:26:45] tell him to tell us before we go into this break, briefly tell the story that people probably haven't heard before about how dr Bob  looked at 50,000 cadaver eyes. To determine that [00:27:00] it was this one data point that they all had in common when they had problems with their honors.

[00:27:06] Leslie Burke: [00:27:06] Yeah. This research was fascinating because they were simply looking at the distinctions between healthy eye tissue and unhealthy eye tissue. They didn't really even know what they were looking for, but in Russia, the government just sends money to the different universities. They don't have, it's not for a product development.

[00:27:21] Effort. It's not, you know, they're just doing it for pure science. And they were simply looking at, you know, what, what is different about healthy eyes and unhealthy eyes? Um, and they kept finding, okay, they found there was glutathione deficiencies. I mean, Oh, you know, L-carnosine deficiencies, uh, inositol, you know,L  cystine deficiencies.

[00:27:41] They saw all these things, but. There, there was one that was the most dominant and uh, and that was L-carnosine. The eyes of healthy eye tissue had still had some levels of L-carnosine in them, and unhealthy eye tissue was completely void of L-carnosine. So, [00:28:00] um, they found that if they depleted the eyes of the, of the test subjects of carnosine, they developed cataract very quickly.

[00:28:07] It was a very easy way, you know, other than trauma to develop cataract. Um, and so the, then the question arose, well, what if we reintroduced L-carnosine? Would we see a reversal response in the eyes? They use cataract as the model, even though oxidation is a component of every single degenerative eye condition.

[00:28:25] Okay. It is a component of macular degeneration, glaucoma, you know, retinal problems, you name it. Uh, but they use cataract as the model simply because they could get such great before and after pictures. It was the perfect model for a science study. So they, um, they, you know, found a way to, first, they just did raw L-carnosine they, and, and they had rodents and they had rodents with cataract, and they put the L-carnosine in their eyes.

[00:28:52] Um, they got a dramatic reversal response, but the L-carnosine in that crude form broke down into various free [00:29:00] radicals. It didn't behave well on the eye over longterm, so they had to refine it and they contacted a Japanese chemical company that works with these peptides at the molecular level for purity factors, stabilization, bioavailability, and they refined it.

[00:29:14] So that it behaves exactly like our own natural L-carnosine does in the eye. And they tested it for over two years, you know, simply because they have the funding there and it's not for pharmaceutical purposes

[00:29:26] Carl Lanore: [00:29:26] to develop a product. Right?

[00:29:29] Leslie Burke: [00:29:29] Yeah. And so they found that even after two years of application, there was no free radical buildup.

[00:29:35] There was no negative side effects. That's the beauty of this product. There's absolutely no side effects. It's only health improvement. And I've been working with the product now for 15 years, so almost 20. I don't want

[00:29:47] Carl Lanore: [00:29:47] to admit the time,

[00:29:51] Leslie Burke: [00:29:51] but, um, it has just been such an incredible experience to see so many people have so many improvements, um, over [00:30:00] those years with something that is just proven itself out to be safe and effective.

[00:30:04] Carl Lanore: [00:30:04] We're going to take a quick commercial break and when we come back, we'll pick it up with this discussion. Also, we have a question from Chrissy's Fox that we'll put up there. We're talking right now with Leslie Burke from wise choice medicine.com you can go there and get your Kanzi. Eyedrops I, there are a few products that I have used in my life that I continue to use for 14 years.

[00:30:28] This is one of them because I can see. The changes. When I don't use it, I can see them and so it's, it's something I will use for the rest of my life. Stay tuned. We'll  evolution just got kicked up a nudge.

[00:30:49] welcome back. We're talking with Leslie Burke from wise choice medicine. They make a product called Cassie eyedrops that you cannot live without. The sooner you start using them, you'll keep your [00:31:00] vision intact longer. As you age, aging, the changes in your eyes are not a normal part of aging and you don't have to accept them.

[00:31:12] And I am living proof of that. I still don't wear reading glasses. I don't have any problems with night vision. Um, and I know that, uh, the, uh, optimal ophthalmologist that I saw for my corneal. Uh, abrasion. They took, they took images of my retina. They said, my eyes look amazing. I mean, you know, and I'm 61 years old.

[00:31:32] I'll be 62 this year and all, none of my friends can read without reading glasses. None of them Elisa can because she uses, can't see with me. She can, that's the one thing she could bag before I turned it on to can't see eye drops. So I'm going to try to pronounce this properly. It looks like Chrissy's Fox.

[00:31:48] He says, what do you think about vice? So midden drops. It's skull JoVE. She's not sure about the spelling ions. She's using it now. She likes them and she's [00:32:00] using it for dry eye and mild cataracts. Have you heard anything about this

[00:32:03] Leslie Burke: [00:32:03] or when you to the homeopathic, it almost sounds like a homeopathic word.

[00:32:07] I'm not sure. Um, I think anything that feels good to your eyes and doesn't have awful chemicals in them. Um, if you are, you know, calming them down and supporting, you know, the pH in your eye effectively, um, you are doing something wonderful for your vision. Um, because the eyes are just such an amazing machine.

[00:32:29] Um, the, that we still don't really even understand it. They know, uh, for example, they know that, uh, you know, people who have dementia or any kind of, um, cognitive function disabilities, the percentage. It's like three to one or four to one of people who have that. Uh, if they have vision problems, they have any kind of retinal problems.

[00:32:50] There's a real correlation there. But the point back to her question is, is, um, uh, you know, if they feel good to you and they're, you know, they're calming things [00:33:00] down, um, and they're helping you with your dry eyes. They're going to, if you help the pH and support the immune function in the eye, that way, it will even slow down the growth of the cataract.

[00:33:10] You know, this is, this is saying that you don't have some type of terrible autoimmune disease that you're battling, or that you have to be on steroids or even thyroid medication. You know, there's different medications that certainly can induce aggressive cataracts. Um,

[00:33:26] Carl Lanore: [00:33:26] in fact, the thing that if you are, so I take, uh, one grain of Armour thyroid a day as an antique agent, but a hyperthyroidism and, or taking too much thyroid medication.

[00:33:38] Especially Synthroid, which they always have a hard time zeroing you in for a few years. That will cause cataracts. One of the things that you can do, two things you can do to avoid that. Number one, use Kancey eyedrops. Number two, use melatonin at bedtime. The one thing that has been shown to protect the eyes from developing cataracts and an environment of hypothyroidism is melatonin.

[00:34:00] [00:34:00] Yeah.

[00:34:02] Leslie Burke: [00:34:02] Uh, the, the studies with melatonin and macular degeneration are incredible.

[00:34:07] Carl Lanore: [00:34:07] I know. And now even melatonin forum for glaucoma, this showing now?

[00:34:14] Leslie Burke: [00:34:14] Oh, yes. Oh, yes. In fact, we have a protocol for people with glaucoma or macular degeneration using a combination of, of, uh, the particular melatonin formula that was used in the clinical trial, um, because it is bonded with selenium and zinc.

[00:34:29] So it's a very unique formulation. Um, that was used and the success rate was incredible. I mean,

[00:34:36] Carl Lanore: [00:34:36] for that

[00:34:38] Leslie Burke: [00:34:38] we do, it's called armed a. R. M. E, D is the name of the product. So you're armed against a RMD, so to speak. Um, and, uh, so yes, that's an incredible formula. Um, so, so yeah, we kind of target, you know, we, we focus with, you know, we have a laser focus on, uh, visual problems, you know, and [00:35:00] so we have different, different products for that.

[00:35:02] They can see, which we're talking about today. Um, is the flagship. It's, it's big. The big daddy, the one that does everything, and she'd be taken, um.

[00:35:11] Carl Lanore: [00:35:11] Well, that's a lie. I want to throw something else out there for Chrissy's. I mean, you're the largest portion of your clients are people who have been diagnosed with cataracts, but they are trying to do everything they can to avoid cataract surgery.

[00:35:26] Right. And I mean, you, you heard the commercial that I played earlier, did you not? Um, there's a guy named Chad who listens to the show. He's been using CATSI for six years. He's been. He, he was on dexamethazone eyedrops for longterm problem. He had it, gave him a cataract, nothing, and he's tried everything.

[00:35:47] Can see eye drops, made the cataract go away, and his doctor can't find the cataract anymore. So, you know, I don't know. Uh, Chrissy's use the product you're using. Give it a fair shake. See what you notice. [00:36:00] Uh, but if you don't notice anything, try can see, because that is the largest bulk of your people.

[00:36:04] Right. The people who come to you, they, they, they reverse cataract with it.

[00:36:07] Leslie Burke: [00:36:07] Yeah, exactly. Uh, and I would say to her, she can use Kanzi in combination with that lubricant drop. We have many people who, you know, and that's the thing I do want to stress. I keep telling her to use a lubricant. Um, you can do that in between because again, your dosing with Kanzi is simply morning and night.

[00:36:23] And if you have any kind of dry eye problem, uh, the pH of the eye needs to be corrected. Um, you're going to be wanting to use a lubricant in between. Your can see eye drops and, and they, they don't conflict with any medication. Even if you're on glaucoma meds, you can use Kanzi. Um, you would want to space the applications apart.

[00:36:41] From one another sufficiently. Um, but, uh, to our knowledge, uh, and to date they conflict with no medication. Um, and Carl, I, I just wanted to say, you know how you said that you would quit using Kanzi for several months and then you'd notice your vision getting a little worse. Um, that's the thing. [00:37:00] People say, well, do I have to use this forever?

[00:37:01] Well, it's kind of like how you take vitamin C. Um, and so, you know, you sort of build up your immune system in the eye, you're using Kanzi and again, you get very low dosing will keep you there. Um, but if you quit entirely, uh, the same imbalance or deficiency due to aging and very busy lifestyle being on computer screens, what have you, um, those that deficiency will return without using Kanzi.

[00:37:27] So this is not something you want to just take short term, see the improvement, and then walk away from it. Because,

[00:37:32] Carl Lanore: [00:37:32] well, you can, but your eyes will get better. But see, I don't, I don't understand that logic. Is this something that we'll have to do forever? Well, let's see. Your vision socks, you use it. Your vision gets good.

[00:37:44] Like, okay, so you got to wash your floor forever. You don't wash your ones when you move into the house and then you're done. It's like there's everything that's important. You probably have want to do forever. Of course you can get

[00:37:55] Leslie Burke: [00:37:55] a out. You have to weigh out for Amber.

[00:37:58] Carl Lanore: [00:37:58] Yeah. While do I have to lift weights [00:38:00] forever?

[00:38:00] Yeah, I hope so. I don't want to. So the next question comes from somebody I've known my whole life actually. She's like my sister. We know each other since we were babies. Tracy Pasinetti, Anna grotto, she says she's just starting to struggle with vision and more spiders. She's probably talking about floaters.

[00:38:17] Yeah. You know, does this help with the black spots? It does help with, with the floaters, doesn't it? Yeah.

[00:38:21] Leslie Burke: [00:38:21] It definitely helps with floaters. Uh, and this is something that, again, you won't, uh, have to wait too long to see those improvements. No floaters will go away of their own accord, you know, um, if the eye is somewhat healthy, um, so, uh.

[00:38:38] But if you are being plagued with floaters, you do want to pay attention because there is an imbalance happening that is a sign of stress. So you want to kind of take a look at your blood sugar levels at your stress level.

[00:38:50] Carl Lanore: [00:38:50] Stress lately too.

[00:38:51] Leslie Burke: [00:38:51] Okay. Emotional scrap. I can't tell you how many people have contacted us after the loss of a spouse or after caring for a drug [00:39:00] addict.

[00:39:00] Son, you know, over a long period or caring for a patient or a parent who has dementia. Those kinds of stresses, um, ongoing, uh, people will have retinal detachments. They will have great vitreal detachments with the big sludgy floaters that really affect the vision. Um, so you really want to do, you know, pay attention to.

[00:39:24] You know, dealing with whatever it is that's stressing you. Um, again, you know, our endocrine system and the eyes, they're just, you know, that cortisol, uh, really affects the vision, um, and is, you know, attacks the retina, tax the health of the eyes, so you can see, definitely helps the eye cope better. Um, and it will definitely support the, the whole healing response in the eye, which is the beauty of it.

[00:39:50] Again, keeping the eye, the pH good. She's doing an eyewash once in a while. Those two things also, I would highly recommend the

[00:39:58] Carl Lanore: [00:39:58] aqueous and vitreous [00:40:00] humor, have a great deal of vitamin C in them. Uh, so I would also say, you know, try supplementing with vitamin C if you're not already know, and you don't have to take a gram a day, you can take, you want to 50 milligrams a day.

[00:40:14] Um, vitamin C, uh, affects not only the aqueous and vitreous humor, but the, uh, filling inside your discs. You know, inside your spinal disc, that's a, it's about 50% vitamin C, and so a lot of people are vitamin C deficient today. We know that. That's another thing that you, that you should consider and you know your eyes are affected by your metabolism.

[00:40:36] As you point out, there are days you wake up and you go, my God, I don't understand that. My, my vision is so terrible today. And then the next night you get that night, you get a really good night's sleep and you wake up in the morning, you're like, Oh, my vision is great. Again, the eyes are really the Canarian.

[00:40:50] In the in the mind, what's going on in your body?

[00:40:55] Leslie Burke: [00:40:55] Absolutely. Or if you had a piece of cake the night before, who I find is that, you know, like [00:41:00] during the holiday time is when people are contacting us and they just, gosh, I don't know what's happening with my eyes. They seem to be getting worse than. You know, they'd been on a binge of treats for a whole month, you know?

[00:41:11] And so, um, even just having some kind of sweet dessert before bed, the night, you know, the night before and the morning, you'll notice your vision isn't as good. Right. Your eyes do, they are the windows to the. Body, if you will.

[00:41:24] Carl Lanore: [00:41:24] We say the soul, right. If the windows to inside now it is.

[00:41:27] Leslie Burke: [00:41:27] Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[00:41:29] And we have to take care of them. It's kind of the thing that we just don't know to take care of, you know? It's not like we don't talk, we just don't talk about it a lot. And you know, you just think, Oh, go to the eye doctor. And he says, okay, you're getting the beginning cataracts, so I'll let you know when you need to have surgery.

[00:41:44] Okay. You know, you just sorta, we, we have kind of a hands off approach to it and there really are some wonderful tools out there that can make a huge difference. Um, and so it's good that you're having these shows call and letting people know these things. I'm,

[00:41:59] Carl Lanore: [00:41:59] and you know, the other [00:42:00] thing is, uh, uh, cataract surgery is no, it's not a 100% solution for your vision.

[00:42:07] Um, because, um, I, I had the greatest. Pleasure of working for dr Miriam shearing when I lived in Las Vegas, and she's the person who invented the clip lens. The clip lens is the lens that literally clips on inside the muscles that they replaced the crystalline lens with. So the way they do a cataract surgery is they do a keyhole iridectomy.

[00:42:26] They cut a little piece of your IRS out, usually high up because your eye little cover it up when it's back where it belongs. They go in. And they irrigate an escapade, they squirt saline in and they have this thing that's like a, a vacuum cleaner with teeth on it, and they chop the lens up and they suck it up.

[00:42:42] And then they put a little glass lens with two little metal clips on the side that they suture into place in the muscles that used to hold the crystalline lens. And all of a sudden you can see clearly again. Yeah. And things are bright again, and you're like, wow. [00:43:00] But here's the problem. Uh, the lens is par focalized it's par focalized for life at about 20 feet away.

[00:43:09] So you still need reading glasses to see up close because the lens can't flex it's glass now. It can't go squashed down and sit and you still need distance glasses to drive far away. So people who get cataract surgery, they go. Why do I have to wear glasses? Because that is like a prosthetic leg. It doesn't walk on its own anymore.

[00:43:28] It's just there. You can manipulate it to make it look like you're walking. So it's Paul focalized for about 20 feet away. You can see everything within that distance. Some of it blurry, some of it not so blurry. The other problem is a lot of people complain about something called prism imbalance. Then they and the doctor says, well, you have to get used to it.

[00:43:47] All of a sudden when you're looking down out there. The floor looks like it's round. It's called prism and balance. Now, when you look at the floor, it looks fine, but when you're looking out there, everything in the periphery looks like it's [00:44:00] Adam distorted. It's distorted. It's, it's, it's, it's out of shape.

[00:44:03] Like fisheye, they call it. You have to get used to that. So by all means, try everything you can before the last resort, which would be a cataract surgery. Try everything you can, whatever it is, this one, that one, these vitamins, these eyedrops until you find something that starts to move the needle. When you find something that's starting to move the needle, stick with it long enough and you probably won't have to get to cataract surgery.

[00:44:27] Your, your ophthalmologist won't tell you this. They won't tell you this. They won't say try, can't see eye drops first and that doesn't work. Come back in six months and we'll do the surgery. They just schedule you for surgery.

[00:44:39] Leslie Burke: [00:44:39] Well, and, and I don't want to, you know, scare people to death about surgery. I mean, thank God we have it if we, if we really need it.

[00:44:46] Um, and I doctors don't tell us about can see or thing or things of that cause they're not trained that way. They do what they're trained to do and they stick with that model. And of course, they're terrified of lawsuits and doing anything [00:45:00] out of what their protocol is. We just have to recognize, as we do with any other, any other part of our body or medicine that, um, these doctors now are very specialized in one area and one, you know, kind of their trained methodology of treatment.

[00:45:16] So we are the directors of our own health. It's great to go there and get a diagnosis, and then you did direct what that treatment's going to be and how you're going to take care of yourself with the help of people like Carl who are having these shows and educating people. Um, but, uh, you know, surgery can be wonderful if, if you know, if you are, find yourself in a position where there's no other option, um, and the statistics are pretty good, but it is your eyes and pretty good.

[00:45:47] Isn't good enough, you know, don't really have to have it. Um, and so yeah, I, I just want to encourage people that have some faith in your body's own natural [00:46:00] healing ability. All it needs is a little support. And the eyes we found respond incredibly well. So that kind of support. Yeah. We will reward you if you treat them well and give them

[00:46:13] Exactly.

[00:46:13] Carl Lanore: [00:46:13] We're going to take all last commercial break. We'll be right back with more of the discussion. Stay tuned. If you have questions, post them here on Facebook. We'll work them into the show. This is the superhuman channel where we use oxygen for the power of good. Welcome back to Su-Preme already.

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[00:46:53] When we announce it, we'll email the winner and let them know that they've won. I love these bands. They, [00:47:00] I have been able to rehab my legs. I, I didn't train legs for two years, Leslie, because I had two foot surgeries in the 2018 that. I couldn't do anything. I walked in a boot for almost a year, um, and I just started training legs again.

[00:47:17] And one of my greatest disappointments is my legs and my butt used to be so big and strong from dead lifting and squatting for years. And I have half the strength that I used to have. These bands have enabled me to get right back on the horse and make such progress so quickly that I, I believe in these bands, just the way I believe in Kancey eyedrops they work really, and as far as CATSI eyedrops go, you know, I've been using them now for 14 years.

[00:47:48] And if they didn't work, I know. I do know because when I stopped using them, my vision really starts to get horrible. I actually consider like, Oh, maybe I'll need reading glasses, and I'm [00:48:00] like, Oh, I haven't used, can't see in two months. Every morning I put one drop in each of my contact lenses and put them on at night when I wash up for bed.

[00:48:08] Take my lenses off. I put a drop in each eye about half hour, 45 minutes before I actually go to sleep. I'll read for awhile so that I'm blinking and getting it all over the place. There's nothing like these eyedrops. I will never stop using them because I want my eyes to be just like they are now. I want to be able to walk into a restaurant.

[00:48:25] All my friends throw on their readers and I just grabbed the menu and read. That's what I do. People hand me their, what does this say and I look into for them. Oh yeah, here's what it says, and I'm going to be 62 this year.

[00:48:37] Leslie Burke: [00:48:37] Yeah, we're the same age, Carl. So, um, but, uh, yeah, it's just, it's an incredible product.

[00:48:45] I, I will be forever indebted to dr Beveridge  for the work that he did and developing it, uh, as well. Many people have been using, we have customers that have been with us for 15 years, you know, um, and they just order it. Every month they order, you know, we have quantity discounts [00:49:00] available, but a lot of people just, you know, they just want to do that one month order every time, pay the full.

[00:49:06] But, um, yeah, it's just something to have in your repertoire that just really, really helps protect the health of your eyes. I can't stress it enough. I've been using it all, all these years as well. Um, and um. Yeah, it, it's, it's just a wonderful product to have and, um, protect, protect your vision. I mean, that's, that's what keeps your mobility, that keeps you, you know, give you your freedom.

[00:49:28] Carl Lanore: [00:49:28] Independence.

[00:49:30] Leslie Burke: [00:49:30] Yes. Your independence. Um, it's, it's one of the number one fears people have is losing their vision.

[00:49:35] Carl Lanore: [00:49:35] Uh, I can't even imagine what it must feel like for someone to have to, well, no, I take that back when I had the injury on my ride, I. . Um, I started to night driving became a little bit difficult for me because I didn't have that full peripheral vision.

[00:49:54] I couldn't judge things that were on my right hand side. And I remember thinking to myself, when [00:50:00] some people get older, they start to develop a night blindness. They actually have to consider not driving at night. Now what does that mean? This is what that means. This means that. Now, if the sun dot sundown is six o'clock and you're someplace you have to rush home before six o'clock because you can't drive in the dark, it totally changes your life.

[00:50:20] You are now a slave to the sunrise and sunset because you can't drive anywhere in the dark. That has to be so sad. I can't even imagine what that would feel like.

[00:50:31] Leslie Burke: [00:50:31] Yeah. And then it's also the distance vision, you know, so you've got your night blindness factor and you've got the distance vision. That's what cataract primarily affects.

[00:50:40] Um, and so you can't read the road signs as well. Um, I've actually had people who have prescription for distance vision and they've been using can see for a period of time and they start taking their glasses off because they actually, when the vision improves, the prescription can be too strong. Well, it actually [00:51:00] distorts the vision the other way.

[00:51:01] So they start dropping their glasses down cause they feel like they can see the road signs better with. So you might have to go get a different prescription after you've been using Kanzi for a while. Be aware of that as well. But that's the good news. That's the good news.

[00:51:14] Carl Lanore: [00:51:14] My vision. It's interesting you say that.

[00:51:16] I never, I never thought about this before, but my contact lens prescription has not changed in over a decade. Yeah. And you would think that as I get older, I would need stronger lenses.

[00:51:28] Leslie Burke: [00:51:28] That doesn't happen very often, Carl. You know that, that you can go, you know, into your sixties without having to have a prescription change.

[00:51:38] Just like you said, dropping right into your contact lens. Dr Babich have always recommended doing, you know, uh, you know, some drops with the lens in some drops with the lens out, you know, kind of mix it up a little bit cause there are some benefits if you have a contact lens in. It actually holds the liquid and in contact with the surface of the eye for a longer period.

[00:51:57] So there are some added benefits to that as [00:52:00] well.

[00:52:00] Carl Lanore: [00:52:00] It's called the vault. The vault of the contact lens is the space between the cornea and the back of the lens. And the vault is part of the base curve corrective prescription. Um, but, but interestingly, I was just thinking I've been wearing a minus five diopter in the right eye and a minus three 75 diopter in the left eye for pre pretty much.

[00:52:22] I don't think I've had a change in prescription for a couple of decades now. And I, and you know, I never, I never attributed that. This is the first time I'm making that connection to can see, because I should have had changes in my prescription by now.

[00:52:35] Leslie Burke: [00:52:35] Motto, vision. Carl, you see close up with one eye and distance with the other 

[00:52:39] Carl Lanore: [00:52:39] no, no.

[00:52:40] They're just both. Uh, yeah. I, you know, if I, I guess if I, if I started to have problems with near vision. I would consider maybe a bifocal contact lens or something like that, but they're not the easiest to wear either because they bounce and then you've got to wait for the ad to come back up where it belongs and it's, you know, [00:53:00] I used to fit them.

[00:53:01] I used to fit people with these lenses. I know they were a nightmare a lot for people to get used to it. Like, I don't want to, I

[00:53:06] Leslie Burke: [00:53:06] don't want to do that. You went to school to be an optician, right? Yeah. Yeah. This is why he's so technical. Everyone. He's way more technical than me and not my own product.

[00:53:16] Carl Lanore: [00:53:16] I want to thank you for believing in this show, and no one believed in this show.

[00:53:20] You went through thick and thin with me. You went from when I was on broadcast radio stations and it costs so much money, and then when I said I was going to go a straight internet, you said, I'm with you. You've never wavered, you'd never blinked. You're part of my family. I love you for that. I just want to tell

[00:53:36] Leslie Burke: [00:53:36] you, Carl, and I've just always been so proud to be part of it, and, and the message that you've tried to communicate to everyone and how many people you've helped.

[00:53:43] So thanks right back at ya.

[00:53:45] Carl Lanore: [00:53:45] Thanks for being here and we'll talk again soon. Okay.

[00:53:48] Leslie Burke: [00:53:48] All right. Take care.

[00:53:49] Carl Lanore: [00:53:49] Tomorrow we have a, a, an episode of the, uh, uh, renew life RX show. Um, Ronnie Milo will be on the air tomorrow with me. We're going to talk about all things [00:54:00] testosterone for you men out there. Uh, thanks for being here today.

[00:54:03] Check out CATSI eyedrops I promise you, if you don't have problems with your vision now and you want it to stay that way, can't see eye drops is the way to go. We'll see everybody tomorrow with more superhuman radio. Thank you for watching and listening today. [00:55:00]