[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] hey, Hey, welcome back to another episode of super human radio. Today is March 26th, 2020 we are deep in the midst of, uh, the Corona virus outbreak here in the United States. Everything is locked up, locked down. Churches are closed, schools are closed, everything is closed. You're not allowed to congregate in groups larger than eight.

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[00:02:31] Hey, and if not, not Ronnie Milo either. Everybody thinks you're a, you're Ronnie Milo. Now.

[00:02:40] Yeah, there you go. How are you doing Adam?

[00:02:42] Adam Lamb: [00:02:42] I'm good, man.

[00:02:44] Carl Lanore: [00:02:44] I said, man, nothing has changed in my life except I'm not training at the gym. And actually I took the past couple of days off because I feel like, you know, I, I tend to, everybody who knows me that close in my circle knows that I overtrain. I'm a little compulsive [00:03:00] about my training.

[00:03:01] I'm just backing it off and I'm enjoying it right now. I, and I have so much more energy to do work.

[00:03:07] Adam Lamb: [00:03:07] It's really good. And even when I was in my bodybuilding years, I would never miss workouts. And now I've got an older, I found that, I mean, your body, like given it two weeks of just not, you're not gonna lose any, you know what I mean?

[00:03:20] If anything, you gained some stuff that you put under tension constantly by training gets a chance to like breathe and recover to avoid injury. I, you know, I think even when we're back in the day, George Farrow used to always tell me. Every six months, you should, no matter what, take two weeks. No, I mean like just a walk or something around the neighborhood's fine, but nothing strenuous.

[00:03:45] Um, every six months. And it's, I think the average person is like, sweet. That's easy. But the guys that like to go to the gym, that's, you know, maybe in your situation, bodybuilders, things like that struggle with taking that break because it feels [00:04:00] so, like, I know I haven't worked out. I did like an outside workout.

[00:04:04] Um, the other day I did like a bike around my block, my driveway around my circle. It's a mile. Exactly. Everyone my neighborhood. So we were walking, we see dangers. What did you know? What's mobile? Do you like it? It's a funny thing. Um, but even, but for me outside, I'm very allergic to a lot of stuff in my area.

[00:04:22] In the pollen here is pretty bad. I'm more worried about the pollen situation cause it's kicked my butt every time. Every year. And rotavirus situation.

[00:04:32] Carl Lanore: [00:04:32] Huh?

[00:04:33] Adam Lamb: [00:04:33] Because I've just, I've never had to deal with the flu or anything like that. And so, um, yeah. Missing going to the gym.

[00:04:41] Carl Lanore: [00:04:41] That's about it. And I, and I do train harder when I go to the gym.

[00:04:45] I literally, I can tell you unabashedly, I mean, I've been doing this long enough where I can tell I can, I can recognize my mental cues. I could feel horrible. Of course, have a bad night's sleep. [00:05:00] But when I get in the car, as soon as I get in the car and I make that left out of the driveway and I'm heading to the gym, something happens to me.

[00:05:07] I actually start to feel like I'm ready for this. I don't feel as tired, and the closer I get to the gym, the more excited I get, and it gets to the point where I can't do that with myself at home. Like going out in the backyard, grabbing the kettlebells. My routine right now is I take the kettlebells. I got the two 70 pound kettlebells.

[00:05:27] I take them for a third of a mile walk around the culdesac and back. That's a third of a mile. I've, I, I checked it with my car. Then, uh, I go in the backyard and I do some kind of a tobacco S kind of a workout. I do goblet squats with one of the kettlebells. I do pushups, I do jumping jacks. And then I'll usually do something else.

[00:05:53] Like I'll grab the kettlebells and do a bent over row, and I do that 10 times and I'm done. But [00:06:00] I, it's not nearly as intense and I'm not expending the kind of energy or even strength that I do when I go to the gym. I just feel stronger at the gym. I don't know what it is. I know it's mental. I know it is

[00:06:11] Adam Lamb: [00:06:11] mental, but you know, don't discount what you're doing.

[00:06:15] That's a workout workout. You know what I mean? It isn't. You have to remember that, you know, guys like you and I, I'd like to include how I used to be. I'm not intense anymore. Uh, and I think a lot of the listeners are like, that training is seriously intense. That is hardcore stuff. And so like what you just mentioned, like that's, that's a great workout and it's.

[00:06:43] And it's an even better workout because you don't always do it. So you're channeling in your body in a new way. You're challenging your mind in any way, cause you don't get that like the puppy going to the gym. You know, you're excited and it is because your brain knows shit. It's about to go down. I've got to get the, I [00:07:00] gotta.

[00:07:00] Get something moving so I can go tackle with this crazy loop fit Carla's about to do at the gym and your brain tells your body to like get stuff going, get ready. Adrenaline happens. Is this almost a little anxieties? I used to, I remember I'd go work out with this. It's really this like skinny kind of cute blind girl doing like different CrossFit stuff.

[00:07:20] And she was like, the devil man, like not. And I said, I shouldn't say it that way. She's very nice. She would kick my butt worse than any person I've ever worked out with in my entire life. And that's the reason why I hired her. So I want to switch my training off after I got out of bodybuilding. So just get out of that same chose arms like that stuff.

[00:07:40] And I would sit in the parking lot like I'd get there early and I'd be like, just talk myself into like, it was like. When I would book an appointment with her, I knew it was like I was booking like a death sentence. I was so anxious, but I'd go in there and I've left, you know, and you leave there just feeling like a bazillion dollars.

[00:07:58] I can conquer the world [00:08:00] because it was a different workout. I think mentally we approach something like you're doing at home and thinking, you know, like I was doing my bike around the block one, you know, do one mile. Pushups, jumping jacks, I'm doing some 10 pound curls, shoulders, all that kind of stuff.

[00:08:14] And then it happened. The bike can go, and I was sweating me. I was dying. I didn't like, my heart rate was staying at like one 60 to one 70 the whole time. Um, you know, did that 39, 40 minutes, whatever, and I was toast. Right? And it's 82 degrees out.

[00:08:32] Carl Lanore: [00:08:32] Elise is like that Elisa Elisa gets 10 to 15,000 steps a day, just naturally.

[00:08:38] Like just because she is like, she is always moving. Elisa's is always moving. I don't, I'm not, I don't have that. She's got that genetically, like she's always moving. I'll sit down and burn an hour working on the computer or something like that. You know, I, I know it'd be more like her and just be up more and maybe I need to get what's at,

[00:08:58] Adam Lamb: [00:08:58] why steps are crazy.

[00:08:59] I [00:09:00] can't sit, I'm like, part of it's an add in for me. I'll just get up to grab something to drink and I'll be like 13 things.

[00:09:10] It's hard for me to sit still for sure. Me and my wife choose in the same sick. How do you get so many steps in work? And I just, even people in the office are like, you are so busy. You know?

[00:09:21] Carl Lanore: [00:09:21] So last time we did a renew life RX show, a Ronnie Milo was on, we talked about the, uh, the sex differences. To Corona virus susceptibility.

[00:09:30] Interestingly enough, we talked about that a week before anyone in the mainstream media talked about it, and we discussed that women are less susceptible to viruses in general. There's also, um, where they are in their menstrual cycle where progesterone and estrogen are, make them more or less susceptible.

[00:09:50] Uh, men get viruses more frequently. Uh, men die from viruses more frequently because women have better immune systems. And why is that? That's because they are [00:10:00] factories to make other human beings in an hour, an hour race. The, our species depends on women. Look, a woman could only have one baby at a time. A man could impregnate a impregnate.

[00:10:14] I mean, if, if a 500 women, if he wants, I mean, I mean, something stupid. So who's really the more valuable one? The the one that is really the more valuable one is the one that actually produces the child. So one guy, you know, you gotta get rid of him, get another guy, and he'll do the same thing. So don't, women are built better as far as the human condition goes to resist diseases and resist situations because they have the metabolic.

[00:10:46] Burden of producing another human being. And so we've known for years, and by the way we talked about that, Ronnie and I talked about that on the renew life RX show a week or more long before anyone in the mainstream media picked up on that.

[00:10:58] Adam Lamb: [00:10:58] That's awesome. And you know, [00:11:00] even joke about it was like, you know, they call him man Cole, right?

[00:11:02] We're like a guy like just want to get out of bed for five or seven days. But my wife, her, her being sick is like feeling like crap. Going to bed early one night. Slip it in the next day and then she's back. Like, cause she's just, she's tough man. She's the toughest woman I've ever met. And I think genetically, like you said, women are just, their bodies are just a little bit tougher to those things because they have to create human beings.

[00:11:27] It's amazing. I mean like every, any bad day, any woman's ever having like a man, you can create a human being. Right, that you're better than me.

[00:11:39] Carl Lanore: [00:11:39] Right? So, and for most of us, we know that our wives, our significant others, uh, their blood pressure is always better than ours, if you like want. When Elisa goes to the doctors and she comes back, you know, she sees a favorite doctor.

[00:11:55] Uh, Matt, um, Matt Andry or a doctor call [00:12:00] page. Uh. She'll come back to all, yeah, my blood pressure was one 20 over 63 and I'm so envious of that, you know, it's not like she doesn't have a temper. She can get angry just like I can. It's not like she doesn't lift heavy weights. She does it, but for some reason she, her blood pressure is always perfect and mine is always on the top end of okay.

[00:12:23] And that's just where I've been my whole life. If I was young boy, and I think that. There's a lot of guys in the audience right now shaking their head. Yeah. My wife's the same way. And there's a lot of women in the audience going, yeah, my husband is the same way. He's always higher than me. And so this group decided to take a look and see if there was really any valid evidence that there is, uh, uh, a biological reason, uh, for this to actually be the case.

[00:12:55] And they found out. That there is now we could drag this discussion out with [00:13:00] people and make you wait for the end, but women have lower blood pressure because of what hormone

[00:13:11] and what hormone is. Guys always, I mean, what a hormone. A guy's always trying to push down in the dirt.

[00:13:18] Adam Lamb: [00:13:18] Well, I think it's it. There's a right and a wrong way to do it, and it's just like anything. As well, because I'm a, I'm a pro hormone balance person, right? And so balance is key. Low is bad. Highest bad, right?

[00:13:39] And so I think that in specifically numbers, whether it's blood work, we see it every day, whether it's just Australian estrodiol. Um, any, any thing is specific numbers are geared to that individual. You know, I just did a big epigenetics testing and all that stuff, and it's, it's crazy when you dive into [00:14:00] DNA specifically and finding out what's good for Adam is not good for Carl and may not be good, you know, for Jim or Bob.

[00:14:08] And so it's that social really interesting. But yeah, this, it's, I think it's important to know that estrogen is important. It

[00:14:17] Carl Lanore: [00:14:17] is, and I, the only reason why I say it the way I do is because you and I both come from a community where bodybuilders have propagated the misinformation that estrogen is evil.

[00:14:30] Estrogen is bad for you. Estrogen makes you hold water as Jen makes you fat. You know, and, and have used things like ADT, ATD to literally suppress estrogen down to. Undetectable levels in the, in the effort to try to gain more muscle, to try to gain more muscle.

[00:14:50] Adam Lamb: [00:14:50] Yeah. I think in my bodybuilding years, I never took anything to manage estrogen ever in my hormone therapy years, like the last 10 [00:15:00] years.

[00:15:00] Um, I haven't, I do. And for me personally, keeping my Estradal in that upper twenties to lower thirties range, I feel great. And, um. Lower than that. I don't really notice much difference, even though I know chemically there's some, some higher risks of things potentially, but higher than that, I'm just not super.

[00:15:22] Okay. Um, but I think the important thing is that it, in no way, shape or form has any of this ever all or nothing, but it definitely has to be something. It's monitored. You know, there's a guy yesterday, real crazy smart science guy. You would know who he is. We looked at his blood work yesterday and I was in on that call and you know, disaster.

[00:15:42] Val's like just over high, but he's fine. No need to do anything.

[00:15:47] Carl Lanore: [00:15:47] No symptoms. Yeah, right, exactly. Yeah, that's

[00:15:49] Adam Lamb: [00:15:49] fine. But if there's three times that and he had symptoms, then that's not a place for him to be. Listen, man, I've seen bodybuilder guys come off like post show cycle stuff. [00:16:00] Three thousands I had a woman the other day, competitor bodybuilder, she, you know, she'll, she'll send her lab or through one of our group just to like, Hey, here's some stuff.

[00:16:08] Look at her. Her, her estrogen was 3,200 right? So like, people don't even know that that can get that high. But if they don't listen and they think that I don't have to worry about like, that's too high, that's not healthy. And so there has to be some intervention coming on and some changes, you know, in most of those cases.

[00:16:28] I would say every single one of those I've ever seen comes from abuse, right? There's a difference between the, you know, couple of hundred milligram a week and the 1200 milligram a week abuse. You know, like there's, there's, but people don't really realize that a lot of times when we have like husband and wife couple, for example, coming in for therapy is the male might be on a 200 milligram cream, but the woman's on a four milligram cream.

[00:16:55] Big difference, right? From a testosterone for example, standpoint. And so [00:17:00] they need to understand that they shouldn't be doing the same as a man and a man also shouldn't be doing the same as a woman, right?  hormone we're talking about. So, and then specifically each individual body, DNA wise needs different amount.

[00:17:15] A different needs to be in a specific range to support it. You might feel great at 1200 I might feel great at 800 right? When we talk about. Uh, testosterone and obviously estrogen can be different too. One of my docs, and we work with, uh, he's been in the game for a long time. He was saying that, uh, estrogen is linked to intimacy, meaning like low estrogen in a men could be like, get over here lady lives, you know, do it.

[00:17:40] And it higher estrogen in men. Um, how your are not real high but higher, maybe make you more look intimate. Like. Little cuddle, a little more foreplay, things like that. And that stuff that's been proven to you. And that's something that he's a big believer in too, is that better healthy estrogen can lead to [00:18:00] healthier intimacy, which also made me think of women.

[00:18:03] They're a little more, a, make me feel special. Give me a little tip, you know, like, as opposed to guys where, you know, were some times almost transactional when it comes to that, that spot. And so I think that the whole conversation around. Estrogen is a good thing.

[00:18:19] Carl Lanore: [00:18:19] Yeah. But more so for men than women. Women get it.

[00:18:23] They're supposed to have good estrogen levels. Women get it when they go through menopause. They want to have youthful estrogen levels. Guys have been taught to be afraid of estrogen. You know, this discussion is no different than testosterone and women, you know, women have been told. Testosterone is a male hormone.

[00:18:41] Women have been told, you know, when they go for HRT, Oh, don't, don't, don't take testosterone. You'll grow hair. You'll be humping the walls. All lies. Women have testosterone naturally. It's not a male hormone. Males have more of it. Women are born with it too, and it's the same discussion with estrogen and men.

[00:18:59] Estrogen is [00:19:00] not a female hormone. Men produce it naturally. It's just that they produce more than we do. And when we start to realize this, then we start to look at, so this is the pathway that estrogen affects lowering blood pressure is, is actually a pathway that I'm familiar with from many years ago when I kind of crashed my endocrine system and I started to develop all the same symptoms that women do.

[00:19:26] With menopause, and that's anxiety, sleeplessness, hot sweats, you know, from the hot flashes, uh, weakness. Uh, you know, uh, just a general sense of malaise. Something is wrong. Depression. I went through, uh, in 2002, I literally, from drugs that I was using, um, and not coming off right. I literally threw myself into what could be considered a menopause.

[00:19:54] Type scenario. Uh, and, and when we, when we look at [00:20:00] these, uh, these factors and we start to think about them, one of the things that Astra dial does for women is it blunts the effect of the adrenal hormones. And this is why women who are super moms their whole life, you know. Juggling work. Their husband's schedules, their kids making dinner, doing laundry, getting three hours of sleep a night.

[00:20:24] They're like, they do this. They're like, Oh, this is no big deal. I could do this for the rest of my life. When they start to become perimenopausal, some of the common things they say is, you know, I used to be bullet poop and now every little thing makes me want to cry, or every little thing freaks me out.

[00:20:39] I just, I just can't handle stress anymore. Well, that's because Astra all blunts, both the secretion and the effects of adrenal hormones. And in this study, this played out. Again, what they discovered was beta adrenergic receptors, [00:21:00] which are the receptors that react to adrenal hormones, the fight or flight hormones.

[00:21:06] Uh, you know, uh, Clenbuterol is a beta adrenergic agonist. Uh, that stress people take Clenbuterol they, they say, Oh my God, I can't take it. I'm shaking. I, I'm feeling, yeah, you're going to go through the roof because you're stimulating all of these beta adrenergic receptors. Well, what they discovered was just the way Ash, a dial is the brake to the adrenals gas pedal.

[00:21:30] It also is to the receptor that lines the blood vessels in your body. So we talk about fight or flight. One of the mechanisms that affects fight or flight is that one of the things that fight or flight affects is the vasculature in your body. If theoretically you're moseying around the woods picking berries, life is good, everything's great.

[00:21:53] All of a sudden a big 12 foot grizzly bear comes at you. You start running. When you [00:22:00] start running, your body goes, okay, all hands on deck. We need all of the blood in the heart, in the lungs, in the kidneys, because we want, we want to get away from this bear. We don't need to worry about if our fingers are going to get cold or if our skin is not going to get feeling it.

[00:22:16] So the blood literally shuts off to the periphery of the body and CO's inside the body where it needs to stay up to to keep you alive and let you run. Well. That response is driven by beta AddRan  response. When the adrenals start squirting stuff out, including angiotensin converting enzyme, which we know causes high blood pressure and people cause it turned on all the time, that is what causes the blood vessels to cringe.

[00:22:45] The secondary non-important blood vessels to squeeze down and shut off. So all the pressure stays inside the body. Well, Astra die off. Stops that from happening in too extreme of a [00:23:00] scenario and all day long. So men who have less estrodiol have less of an ability to control their blood vessels from constricting.

[00:23:11] And this is why men tend to have higher blood pressure than women. It's, it's brilliant. It's, eh, but it's also very foreseeable.

[00:23:21] Adam Lamb: [00:23:21] You know, I think it's interesting and you know, just from. What I w what I tend to notice or I see with, you know, one of the studies we have going on with, with women is, you know, when you go into menopause, a lot of times, and I'm thinking about this, what you're saying, where women that have the rest of their, their, their estrogen fluctuate throughout the month.

[00:23:42] But the women that come to us that are like, listen, Carl, I hate the world. I'm never happy. Everything bothers me. I'm miserable. They'd been written off as, Hey, that's just part of menopause. And what happens is they eventually find us and they come to [00:24:00] us. Guess where their estrogen is through the roof.

[00:24:03] It's in vitro levels. 600 800 right. So think about this too, and this is just that. Nah, nah. Just just to have a balance on the estrogen conversation of the most unhappy women we see at excessive estrogen. If you're 51 years old, the shop is closed. You're not making babies. But if your body's producing hormones that tell your body that we should be making babies, but the machine's like, shut down, we're not doing that anymore.

[00:24:35] It can also create that conflict or fight or flight hormone in the body. Um, as well, that creates that, that lack of wellbeing. Like something's wrong. I don't know what's wrong and it's a miscommunication in the body. We see that sometimes, often. Um, we try to figure out where this elevated estrogen levels are coming from.

[00:24:55] Um, I would say the people that I'm just off the [00:25:00] top of my head and thinking were my best friends. You'd look at her and go, there ain't nobody fit there. Okay. And what we're curious about is that to your point, the adrenal, the adrenaline kind of having that play with the estrogen, meaning that, but they're also women that have high stress.

[00:25:19] Just thinking of a few women I know, I know personally in this situation, women that high stress, women that find problems where there might not be, and there could be a link of because of the high estrogen. I may not, I may be seeing things differently, right? I may be panicking a little bit more. I may be creating a fight or flight that doesn't exist, and now I'm trying to balance it out.

[00:25:42] I, I don't know. It's a, it's a great thing to look into. The number one thing that we found that maybe pertains to this, especially with limited menopause, is we don't give them extra Jun that one time, but we'll, we'll see. Some will come over with the rest regions, like whatever. We give them testosterone [00:26:00] and guess what else all regulates after that, everything.

[00:26:03] Progesterone, I'm pregnant, but it's never done. Studies aren't done because most, you know, OB GYN folks treating women, they crush it until menopause. There's not a ton of training in medical school beyond that, and there isn't a lot of studies done as you and I both know it. Testosterone really as much as it shouldn't be because it is so beneficial for so many people.

[00:26:26] Um, that just putting them on testosterone actually helps them. Like whether that menopause storm and helps the body self-regulate towards supposed to be. And when you think of the psychology mind testosterone too, and it happens whether it's, it happens exterior wise or internally, that if your testosterone is low, you're fearful, you have low energy, low confidence or self esteem.

[00:26:49] Don't you struggle to manage problems internal or externally, but we are testosterone's high. You're like, I got that. You know, no big deal. It's not a problem. That's up stress and [00:27:00] how we manage our external stuff based on where our hormones are positioned internally is also important. Estrogen, again, plays a good role in that.

[00:27:12] Too much estrogen may make you too emotional too. What's going on. This guy beat Jimmy in the red light and it like, screw my whole day off. Or a guy beat me in a red light and I'm like, Hey, when you're out the other right perception of the exact same situation, a lot of times it's we as people have to ourselves accountable for it.

[00:27:30] But going back to the science part of it is good. A good amount of estrogen leading to more intimacy, leading to more empathy, right? Leading to more compassion potentially. Um. That's good too, and that's the cycle. We really spent a lot of time, as you may know, in our clinic with the psychological side of these hormones, because it matters to understand why, you know what I mean?

[00:27:54] Carl Lanore: [00:27:54] Do you use anything to control and manage estrogen?

[00:27:59] Adam Lamb: [00:27:59] Yeah. I [00:28:00] personally take a half a milligram of an ESP result every Friday night and manages it for my cream and I do a Friday night. The negative potential sometimes side effect with. And half a milligram the most, the one milligram stuff that's pretty excessive for anybody to take it one time is sometimes taking that chin almost zap my energy I took, I couldn't say I have noticed it now, but I think in the past maybe I was taking too much and put up.

[00:28:28] Um, and so that's why I like a Friday evening if I get a little tired or whatever. But yeah, I don't, I don't really notice anything other than if I go two weeks. The last time I went, two weeks without it. I definitely noticed that. I just was like, I dunno. I was almost like not in a great mood. We're,

[00:28:49] Carl Lanore: [00:28:49] you know, it's funny.

[00:28:50] It's funny. Anastrozole Rizal is so strong and there are, I don't know how true this is, but I've heard rumors that there are companies out there who are now [00:29:00] blending their testosterone with anastrozole in it.

[00:29:03] Adam Lamb: [00:29:03] Have you heard of it? Oh yeah, no, I've seen it. We don't do it. They'll do like a one milligram and I just, I don't know.

[00:29:10] I in my head, listen, I know great scientist people and I just don't know how they blend that testosterone, you know, sipping a 10 ML with 10 milligrams of an Esther's all, and you're supposed to get. One milligram of a nester is all her ML, 200 milligrams. I just,

[00:29:31] Carl Lanore: [00:29:31] I don't know. It sounds so, does the anastrozole have some sort of Esther that keeps it from, because theoretically, theoretically, once it's in the muscle, there's a Depot of oil.

[00:29:41] The oil releases slowly the testosterone that's bound in it over time. And, and the  as anastrozole would probably be released fairly slowly too, I would imagine. Maybe not. I don't know.

[00:29:53] Adam Lamb: [00:29:53] And that's the thing is I don't know. I don't know enough about it. I don't know if it's a creative way. Cause there's the other part of it too [00:30:00] is remember compounding pharmacies are always under scrutiny of creating a product that's also meaning they have to try to make some stuff about whether it's a milligram difference or something.

[00:30:10] And I have to ask myself, are they making that product. To have something for the market. Are they making a product?

[00:30:17] Carl Lanore: [00:30:17] Well, and that's what I think. I think that they're just, they're just riding on the coattails of bad information. They're making a product because they think, well, everybody's out there taking out ushers all, we'll just put it in our testosterone.

[00:30:29] And it's unnecessary for a lot of their patients.

[00:30:32] Adam Lamb: [00:30:32] Yeah. And it just goes back to like the kind of the core belief system of what we do. Is that anything in just a large quantity is just, it's not always the best. Yeah. You never know that. How do you adjust that dose? What's if that dose is too high or too low for you?

[00:30:47] How do you adjust it? Take more just like you can't. Then it's like, okay, well that that dose was too high for you, so we're going to send you some more testosterone that doesn't have it, and

[00:30:59] Carl Lanore: [00:30:59] I've seen [00:31:00] them, I've seen them do that with creams. I mean, they do that with creams too. They like, Oh, six months after you've been using this cream, like, Oh, well you test off of that high enough.

[00:31:08] We're going to keep giving you this one with testosterone biased and progesterone in it, and then we're going to give you this other tube of just testosterone. It's like, okay, now it just got too complicated,

[00:31:19] Adam Lamb: [00:31:19] and so we, you know what I've said before, 80% 86% of the time what we choose, looking at your initial blood work.

[00:31:31] Our team says there's what you need an 86.6% of the time. I think it exactly was. We are right. Meaning that Carl's happy, Carl feels good and 90 days later called bloodwork looks good, right? But there's always that little wiggle room of like, yeah, you need a little extra. You need a little less. But that when it comes to medicine, even 6% awesome.

[00:31:54] You know what I mean?

[00:31:56] Carl Lanore: [00:31:56] No, I agree. I want to, I want to take a quick commercial [00:32:00] break and when we come back, I'm going to try to find this study. I think I'm going to be able to find it, but I want to see, I want to see if I can find this study that I remember reading a long time ago about the relationship between estrodiol and oxytocin level in women.

[00:32:13] Because this may actually speak to the high estrogen angry women out there. Uh, but bottom line is, uh, the, the news is this, it's a, if you, if you're a man and you're on testosterone therapy and you have high blood pressure from it, the reason you may have high blood pressure from it, especially if you are suppressing Astra dial by taking an aromatase inhibitor, uh, may be because your estradiol levels aren't high enough.

[00:32:39] Or you haven't found the sweet spot, the unique spot just for your body because Astra dial all is what keeps your blood vessels from overreacting to beta adrenergic agents and constricting your blood vessels. So this may help a lot of guys that, cause there's guys out there I get all the time, they say, Oh, I'm on testosterone.

[00:32:58] My doctor says I got to come off cause my blood pressure's [00:33:00] high. Well where's your estrogen? Is he giving you an aromatase inhibitor? I have this discussion with your doctor that estrogen may actually protect against .

[00:33:07] Adam Lamb: [00:33:07] Well the reality is that like, you know, most people aren't in the know like we are your listeners and stuff like that, that a lot of these guys are getting one shot, 200 milligram a week and they're giving them like.

[00:33:19] Three one milligram, but we had a whole clinic we took over a couple of years ago. Um, I don't know what happened. It's not my to discuss with the document or anything like that. And the patients still need to be serviced. These people were all getting one shot at 200 milligram a week and they all were getting three one milligram and Esther resolving

[00:33:36] Carl Lanore: [00:33:36] every other day, every other day,

[00:33:39] Adam Lamb: [00:33:39] walkers.

[00:33:40] And so that is what's given that stuff in that name. Um. But you know, like I scold back to Allen is the most important thing,

[00:33:50] Carl Lanore: [00:33:50] but at least you can have a discussion with your doctor and say, Hey, do you realize that has the dial actually could lower my blood pressure. Where is my extra dial levels? Let's talk about that and we're going to be right back with why [00:34:00] I'm gonna see if I can find this study.

[00:34:01] Stay tuned.  lulu.com this is the superhuman channel evolution. Just got kicked up a notch.

[00:34:13] Welcome back. I couldn't find this study I was looking for. I don't have the time, but I did find it an interesting study about. Extra dial, a beta estrogen, beta receptor, and oxytocin production. And so I'll put this in the show notes today so that people can go and look at it. Takeaway is that, um, as to dial, well, let me back up.

[00:34:41] Oxytocin is what's responsible for mitigating, uh, stress-related response and anxiety. And obviously we know that when women go through menopause, their oxytocin levels drop as well. That's the nurturing side of them. They tend not to be as [00:35:00] nurturing and so on. It's not their fault. It's not like they're becoming mean.

[00:35:02] It's just these hormonal changes change their perception of life. And the, uh, Astro, the estrogen beta receptor plays a role in the production of oxytocin. And just gleaning this, and I'm just really going out on a limb here because I didn't have time to read the whole study. I've got the whole study in front of me, but just gleaning the abstract.

[00:35:23] It looks like it suggests that if the estrodiol beta receptor is somehow compromised, let's say there's a lot of things that Dokken and the estrogen receptor growth hormone docks in the estrogen receptor. So if the SG receptor is occupied. Uh, and astrogen itself isn't getting into it. It would shut, shut down the production of the peptide.

[00:35:45] Oxytocin, according to this study. So, you know, with, without actually digging deeper in this and understanding, um, what other hormones could be taking up space and have a greater affinity to, uh,

[00:35:59] Adam Lamb: [00:35:59] sexual [00:36:00] binding globulin. So,

[00:36:03] Carl Lanore: [00:36:03] so, so you think that maybe the SHBG is binding stuff up and it's not getting into the receptor and then there's an oxytocin being produced?

[00:36:10] Adam Lamb: [00:36:10] Possibly. Yeah. I'm just curious whether a higher, you know, we see a lotta, what are the biggest things we see issue often ignored in the hormone space. We've talked about a lot is high SHBG and low Shug. What are the most important things? It's overlooked and hormone therapy. Is, if your SHP is low, there's not enough stuff to move it around.

[00:36:33] If it's high, the effectiveness, the binding it opportunity is actually lower music. So much so that the chip, the cheering it, you know, it's like traffic on an expressway to get from exit the exit. When the traffic is loaded up, it takes a long time as opposed to wide open expressway. Right. And, um, but if the exit is closed, you can't get off.

[00:36:55] You can't find. And so we see a lot of stuff there, but I'm curious to see. [00:37:00] If there's a situation there with, would you consider oxytocin in that sex hormone category? I often wonder too, if our body misinterprets sex hormones with other things like cortisol,

[00:37:15] Carl Lanore: [00:37:15] adrenaline, and that could be the other one. So, so interestingly enough, you know, when after dial drops, cortisol production goes through the roof.

[00:37:21] It's part of the whole overstressed feeling. And so it could be that cortisol is in that receptor. Estrogen can't get into that receptor, and estrogen has to get into that estrogen receptor B in order for oxytocin to be produced in the first place. So we

[00:37:35] Adam Lamb: [00:37:35] own is a DGA helps, and it's kind of what this is like an elementary explanation, but DHG kind of helps to say the cortisone, that's not your spot.

[00:37:46] Go over here. This is your spot. And we find that just UGA alone from a stress standpoint. Helps people overall sleep better at night and find themselves less stress because the HEA is [00:38:00] like a harmony hormone and it potentially is helping individual, helping that hormone area go where it's supposed to be.

[00:38:07] Because I think our bodies have a lot of chaos going on, you know, just the way that fight or flight, you know, Facebook's going off by texts going on, like all these things that. I don't know that we are designed to handle it or

[00:38:21] Carl Lanore: [00:38:21] do I agree with you? I agree with you on that. I, you know, we, we don't realize the stress we live in.

[00:38:27] I actually thought about writing a blog post about this. Um, the introduction of smart phones. I, I'm sure that if we had a way to assess stress levels in our population before smartphones and after smartphones, we would find out that the stress levels are way up. And here's why. Sure. Text messages. Demand a response.

[00:38:49] Now, like when you get a text, very few people go, not, I'm not going to pay attention to it. All people think, well, if this must be important, they're texting [00:39:00] me. I need to read this. Now we know this because. The advertising industry is now saying, Hey, screw email lists, SMS messages. 100% of text messages are open.

[00:39:12] That means that they demand your attention. Now, push notifications have just been an extension of text messaging. Oh, my Facebook app needs me now. My Instagram app needs me now. My weather map. Needs me now. It's like

[00:39:28] Adam Lamb: [00:39:28] that's the surface part of it. But even just to give an example, I just said, somebody sent me a message on Facebook of like, I've almost got me to tears in this break because there's something very impactful that I had opposite place in their life that just look from an emotional standpoint.

[00:39:43] It was like a wow, like made me just made my day right and amazing, amazing message. But I could flip into my email and I might have somebody who's. Ripping me a new, you know what? Because their package hasn't arrived because this one pharmacies out of it. So that emotion also, that [00:40:00] fluctuation of like, Oh, that was a nice thing ever to, you're the biggest, you know, POS on earth type.

[00:40:06] That stuff

[00:40:06] Carl Lanore: [00:40:06] too.

[00:40:07] Adam Lamb: [00:40:07] We don't, we didn't have to deal with that so bad. Right. We can look at something, I can look at a picture that makes me feel great and I can look at another picture. It makes me feel. Like a loser, right? I can look at a picture makes you feel good, great dad. A picture. It makes me feel like a a bad dad, right?

[00:40:20] And those things that up and down her eyes, like what are we supposed to be feeling right now? I don't understand what's going on. What do you want now? And so that whole confusion on top of the urgency of

[00:40:34] Carl Lanore: [00:40:34] the demand, the demand, Hey, pay attention to me now. Pay attention to me now. Patrick Rogers

[00:40:39] Adam Lamb: [00:40:39] is huge.

[00:40:41] Carl Lanore: [00:40:41] Patrick Rogers, uh, made a comment, I don't know. I don't know if you were in on the beginning of the show, Patrick, but yes, absolutely. Women's bodies are designed better than men because they have the ability to make humans, and so they, they, they're there. Vascular systems are better adapt to [00:41:00] handle stress.

[00:41:01] Their brains are better adapted to handle stress. There's, I know that women pound for pound are actually stronger than men. That's been proven, you know?

[00:41:11] Adam Lamb: [00:41:11] But number one thing that we can all do regardless of gender to help our bodies manage stress better is it's exercise. It really is. Yeah. So break down, rebuild, break down, or bill and Rick brick, governor bill.

[00:41:23] Uh, and then you slip on some stairs and break your ankle or something like that. You were gonna recover faster than the person that doesn't have regular exercise. Same with childbirth surgery. Um, anything, that's the number one thing we can do. Women genetically are just designed to recover better. And, yeah,

[00:41:43] Carl Lanore: [00:41:43] and Patrick, I don't know if you caught this show that we did a couple of weeks ago, but, uh.

[00:41:48] But women are less susceptible to getting viruses, including coronavirus, and they are less susceptible to dying from viruses. And so everybody is saying, well, uh, men are dying from the virus more so than women because men [00:42:00] smoke and no, women's bodies are designed to resist a lot more because they are, they are, uh, tasked with the continuation of the species.

[00:42:12] They, we, we, we are like, we are like a shed in your backyard. And women are like the GM plant making cars, like no comparison between men and women when it comes to the efficiencies and, uh, and, and skill sets that our bodies have. Women outpace us all the way, and yes, they hadn't handled stress better as a result of that as well.

[00:42:36] Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty, really interesting stuff. Um, so, uh. The bottom line is women do have lower blood pressure because of the hormone estrogen and, uh, and, and they are better equipped to utilize estrogen. They have more estrogen receptors than we do. They have more estrogen than we do. They tend not to develop, uh, uh, neurological problems at the [00:43:00] same rate as men until they go through menopause if they don't get on HRT.

[00:43:04] Um, yeah, they just, they just have it, uh, you know. They may have a fight for the right to vote and all that sort of stuff, but they look women outlive men by an average of seven years period. End of story. Like where we need a, we need a group to get together and fight for men's rights. Man, we're dying fast that we're in prisons where we're in jails where were committing suicide more than women.

[00:43:31] We're doing all these things. Men are the ones that are in trouble. We are. But we, but we men, we just suck it up, man.

[00:43:39] Adam Lamb: [00:43:39] Women are never better to be at. I prefer even women's company over men's company. I think that there's just there, we're, we're all uniquely created, you know, species. But primarily I think women don't get enough credit for what they're nationally designed, uh, in this situation.

[00:43:59] Just [00:44:00] a little better blood pressure because of a.

[00:44:04] Carl Lanore: [00:44:04] Yes. There you go. I want to take our last commercial break and when we come back we'll wrap it up. Cause there's really nothing else to say about this other than women have better blood pressure than men because of estrogen. And really that's the, that's the takeaway.

[00:44:15] No guys, watch your estrogen levels. Make sure you find the sweet spot. Not too high, not too low, just where they work. Stay to it.

[00:44:23] Adam Lamb: [00:44:23] This

[00:44:23] Carl Lanore: [00:44:23] is the superhuman channel where we use oxygen for the power of good.

[00:44:33] Adam, what's going on with the STEM cell project? Man,

[00:44:36] Adam Lamb: [00:44:36] I, me right now we're actually not in Texas, not seeing people for probably July after Easter. Um. People just know. Our majority of our demographic are older people with, you know, orthopedic issues that are fearful of surgery and stuff like that. We have, I mean, amazing stuff.

[00:44:58] I'll send you a video of a guy [00:45:00] we just did. He's not older. He's like 36. We had a rotator cuff. Um, a friend of mine flew in to get it done. But most of our, most of our people, uh, you know, hips, knees, and they're just like, they're kind of scared to come out right now. Right. And it's not. Essential, and the last thing we'd want is someone you know who's got a compromised immune system or meets a demographic of somebody that's high risk to come out.

[00:45:22] You know our actually our building though, we don't treat, this isn't a place people come with their sick. We do have like a kidney dialysis systems. People are, man, I'll tell you. People watching, take care of your health and kidneys. You'd come in, hang out at my office for a day because these people coming up in ambulances all day long, I'm going to go get a kidney dialysis.

[00:45:41] That is scary stuff. Not the most healthy, but the hormone side though. The great news is that, uh, you know, with renal FRX, it's nationwide telemedicine. So we haven't skipped a beat. And in fact, you've actually been crazy busy that, you know, we've had the busiest last two months ago, ever had, um. [00:46:00] And because, you know, we can also supply people with things like B12 and glue your thigh and those kinds of things nationwide.

[00:46:05] They don't have to put blood work or physicals or anything like that. So we've been, uh, we've been cranking here. Actually, I'll throw this out there. We're looking to hire, um, potentially a couple of folks because we have some serious expansion going on with your life RS. Uh, and you know, if someone wants to messaged me, they're interested, they get to work from home.

[00:46:26] It's remote. Uh, which is kind of nice as well. We just, we need some more.

[00:46:31] Carl Lanore: [00:46:31] How do they get in touch with you?

[00:46:33] Adam Lamb: [00:46:33] Yeah. Email me, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Um, or message me any other where they find me, we'll get in touch. But we, yeah, we need people at wellness coordinators. I have to have a little bit of an understanding about hormones.

[00:46:46] Um, they can be some black Mark. Like that's a problem is finding somebody who's like legitimately knows a lot about hormones to have a conversation about it. It also doesn't want to sell trembling off their back door. [00:47:00] There's a problem.

[00:47:01] Carl Lanore: [00:47:01] I know, right? It's a part of the job casualty. Yeah, right, exactly.

[00:47:06] Adam Lamb: [00:47:06] Like your personal trainer, but you're making your side hustle selling G H M so can't you? You make the very legitimate compliant, awesome business. It's super high risk, so I can't work with anybody like that. So that's you. Please not apply. But if you are a really good person and you understand hormones and you want to be part of like a, I mean, the stuff that we're doing this year, it's massive.

[00:47:30] Just it's exciting and it's good to be recognized as a group that's doing things the right way and getting the right outcomes. And we're just. The growth is, is awesome. So we've, we've been kind of doubled down, especially in this current environment with the coronavirus stuff on renew life, our X, because we can help people nationwide if you told us that's what the platform is for.

[00:47:51] Carl Lanore: [00:47:51] So one of the greatest things to come out of this, there's several great things that are going to come out of this Corona virus, uh, situation. But one of the greatest [00:48:00] things is now the, uh, generalized acceptance, rapid acceptance of telemedicine. You know, what people need to understand is that. Um, States like New York, I think New Jersey, they're very protective.

[00:48:15] So, so, uh, each state gets to make their own rules about medicine. People think it's the DEA that's doing this. It has nothing to do with the DEA. Um, each state gets to make their own rules about medicine through their medical licensure divisions. And many States are protective of the doctors in their backyard.

[00:48:39] Adam Lamb: [00:48:39] what's happening? New York from California to the toughest, and I believe, I don't know, ho or Iowa, one of the two. Just recently, I think in August you have to have be licensed in that state to be telemedicine in that state. You get the time. We only had a couple of people, but one of our, we have a doctorate, but it was something that came through with the [00:49:00] pharmacies.

[00:49:00] Carl Lanore: [00:49:00] Yeah. And like in New York, like so. So here's, here's the interesting thing about this. So this. What's going to happen in the next five years or less, uh, with the loosening of an X and the acceptance to general acceptance of telemedicine, you will no longer be restricted by geography to work with the greatest doctors in the world right now in most States.

[00:49:24] Most people don't even realize that they can work with an out of state doctor. And right now, in most cases, in order to work with an out-of-state doctor, you have to at least have visited them one time a year in person. Now, that's fine if you're just going through the state over from you. But if you want to work with a doctor in California or a doctor in Florida, you know, it's just not practical to have to fly there unless you're one of the affluent people.

[00:49:49] Uh, who can afford all, we'll just take a vacation. We'll stay there for the week. I'll see my doctor. Now what's going to happen is you won't have to do that anymore. You

[00:49:59] Adam Lamb: [00:49:59] don't have, [00:50:00] and that's one of the key things we figured out. We figured out how you don't have to do that, and I won't share it here because we, we charge clinics money.

[00:50:09] Build that for them from a compliance standpoint, but they all think that's what you have to do, and that's, it's changed and it's changed even more rapidly on what the Trump administration changed some stuff with telemedicine that even pushed it even easier to do. Um. Through doing that through w, you know, nationwide, depending on what you're doing now.

[00:50:29] Listen, you want Vicodin? You want,

[00:50:31] Carl Lanore: [00:50:31] Oh yeah, yeah, no, we're not talking about that stuff.

[00:50:36] Adam Lamb: [00:50:36] Yeah. That's a whole different ballgame. We'll have people that are like, Hey, can you refill my ADHD stuff? I might know. That's not our wheel house. We do hormones. You got to go and do something,

[00:50:48] Carl Lanore: [00:50:48] but what, but, but, but what?

[00:50:50] Right now we have a cardia. The app that can check for a Rhythmia is we have, we actually have, we actually have,

[00:51:01] [00:51:00] they have ultrasound devices that you could plug into your iPhone. So they actually can really do telemedicine. Now. They can send you a box of stuff. You can wear it, they can track you, they can give you just about everything that you would get. Is if you went into a hospital or into the doctor's office.

[00:51:19] So what's going to end up happening here is it's going to be interesting the next 10 or 15 years, what's going to happen, and I've seen it because I was in the optical industry.

[00:51:29] Adam Lamb: [00:51:29] I remember 10 years, whatever you're saying is going to be five to 10 years.

[00:51:33] Carl Lanore: [00:51:33] Okay? What? When when I was in the optical industry, you had to have a license.

[00:51:38] To not only open your own optical store, but everybody at the counter had to have a license. And then they said, you know why one license over the store and everybody else can kind of be apprentices under that license. That's kinda like the nurse practitioner move. Then they said one license over [00:52:00] the company.

[00:52:01] And then you had these big chains opening up. They had one O D a optometrist at the top, and then they had all these other people working for them. What's going to happen here is this, we're going to see an amalgamation of medicine, a co, I'm sorry, a conglomeration of medicine because the greatest doctors in the world that you or I can't go see because they're in other places in the country, will now be accessible to you, and that means that the doctors in your hometown are either going to a.

[00:52:30] Have to Steph the F up their game will be go out of business and see, I live in a protectionist state, not from medicine. What's bigger in Kentucky than medicine? Boos. So you in Texas could order a bottle of crystal from Florida, from California and get it for $75.

[00:52:52] Adam Lamb: [00:52:52] Well, that's recent and Texas, it it, I know Texas was one of those protected

[00:52:56] Carl Lanore: [00:52:56] States really

[00:52:59] Adam Lamb: [00:52:59] got a big thing [00:53:00] about when his wine company in Texas, he's like F Texas, but yeah, but I think Texas changed that because they've done so much here locally with development

[00:53:10] Carl Lanore: [00:53:10] in Kentucky.

[00:53:11] I can only buy the liquor that's in Kentucky. I can't buy. I can't join the Napa Valley Napa Valley wine club at a gig or chills and get foxes have stuff shipped to me because Kentucky says, ah, you're going to buy your booze here because booze is big in Kentucky. Well, that's changing the way medicine is being handled and everybody listening right now is going to see in the next three to five years, you are going to be able to go to the single best doctor for your disorder in the world.

[00:53:42] Even though they're not in your hometown anymore.

[00:53:45] Adam Lamb: [00:53:45] And you know, it's something that I saw today. I think that on the same front, like, uh, they discovered the FDA just approved. It's a look, a emergency I N D for plasma. So taking plasma, let's say Carl had [00:54:00] coronavirus two months ago, antibodies are in his body, but he tests negative for the swab.

[00:54:05] So it's not active. We can take your plasma spin. It. Give it, test it to make sure it doesn't, you don't have, you know, HIV and syphilis and all this other stuff. Test it and then injected an Adam who has Corona virus. Those antibodies that it's FDA front page stuff and that's very in line with what we do from PRP

[00:54:25] Carl Lanore: [00:54:25] from

[00:54:27] Adam Lamb: [00:54:27] all the same thing.

[00:54:28] I saw that I was like, Oh, someone's going to get that. You can take something from somewhere else. It doesn't have to go be this manufactured vaccine in over in some other country. We come over here. True is every year you can actually just take that plasma. And if the government will open up the door to take their plasma, to manipulate it, to make more of it, because some of your vaccines are coming from like monkeys, hate.

[00:54:51] Like I want Carl Carl's plasma that passed the test doesn't have hepatitis or anything like that. That's,

[00:54:59] Carl Lanore: [00:54:59] well, let, [00:55:00] let, let, let's be clear about something where this means we're coming full circle. Because during the, during the plague, people develop puffs, jewels oozing with pus. If they didn't die, it meant that their body developed immunity to it.

[00:55:17] So what they did back then was they would the living person still surviving, but and, and recuperating from, from the plague. They would take the pus and they would cut a laceration in your arm. And they would smear the puss on it and you would develop a low grade fever and you'd feel pretty crappy for about two or three days, and then you'd get better and you were immune to the plague.

[00:55:41] This is what vaccines started. It's called the hormetic response, but here's where it went wrong. Pharmaceutical companies saw opportunities to make big money on this by making multi injection vials of stuff. Right? And once they did, in order to do that, they had a youth [00:56:00] preservatives. They had to create ag events.

[00:56:01] They thought, Oh, the aggravate excites the immune system. So the, the response that, well, the agiment excites your immune system to everything. You get a vaccine and maybe you eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. The next time you eat peanut butter, you get out of Philactic shock. It's because your immune system woke up and said, I'm not only going after what you injected in me, but I'm going after this suspicious character over here.

[00:56:25] Now all of a sudden you have allergies to other things. There's a, there's a hypothesis out there right now that the reason that our population current population is so weighted down by autoimmune disorders is because we are one of the first. Populations. My generation started it with all these vaccines.

[00:56:47] Adjuvants woke up, our immune systems and our immune system said, we want to fight. We want to fight. Who are we going to fight? I dunno. Let's fight that thyroid tissue over there. That's what's happening.

[00:56:56] Adam Lamb: [00:56:56] Well, what was it just taking, you know, like that blood [00:57:00] plasma that's rich in antibodies that I thought the coronavirus and putting that back in and just letting your body do what it does

[00:57:07] Carl Lanore: [00:57:07] is what it does.

[00:57:08] That's it.

[00:57:09] Adam Lamb: [00:57:09] That's the natural vaccinate. The vaccination. Way of doing things. Um, and in this situation, it's not doing it to vaccinate as much as it's doing it to, to boost it, saying, Hey, body, these, these antibodies that we just dejected and you make more. Look, this is the secret, right? When you're trying to like, here's the problem solving.

[00:57:29] So it's, it's a, it's a cool thing. I love seeing the stuff. I love seeing telemedicine. I love seeing people work from home. I love people doing these zoom conference, and that's what I've been doing for 10 years. You know what I mean? So like, yeah. We haven't skipped a beat. And knowing things like lab Corp doesn't test for infectious diseases, so you can go to LabCorp, still get your blood work.

[00:57:50] They're not sending sick people, though. They're not sending sick people there to get tested for coronavirus. A lot of people are scared about that too. Um, so it's just interesting. It's going to be in the [00:58:00] know and have a good understanding not to panic while going through that situation. And. Um, in the meantime, make sure your estrogen's good.

[00:58:07] Carl Lanore: [00:58:07] Are you going to be back on next time or was Ronnie gonna come on, come back on the show, man. I know you're busy. Yeah, no,

[00:58:14] Adam Lamb: [00:58:14] it's all, it's just a matter of timing thing, like if I'm traveling or something like that, I'm very fussy about my podcast time in the sense of, I want to make sure I'm delivering. The best.

[00:58:24] Right. But time is blocked. Time is there. Um, if I'm somewhere and I don't know, it's internet will be good. Like I just,

[00:58:31] Carl Lanore: [00:58:31] I get it.

[00:58:32] Adam Lamb: [00:58:32] I go, what's the only challenge? I will not be, I was supposed to fly out to LA. Have you heard of the minimalists?

[00:58:39] Carl Lanore: [00:58:39] Yeah, yeah, I've heard of it.

[00:58:41] Adam Lamb: [00:58:41] Yeah. Yeah. Yahshua and I think it's Nick.

[00:58:44] I mean, it flash, let's fly to LA next week to be on their show, to talk just about a minimalist approach to hormones and you know, talking with him and his wife, Rebecca. But that's all canceled too. So I have no travel coming up other than [00:59:00] actually my son and I think are going to go with Ben Greenfield son.

[00:59:03] He's got to invite only father son camping thing. And it's more to the survival thing. Like . Build your own place to sleep. And like Chet, your own food vision should be pretty cool. Yeah.

[00:59:14] Carl Lanore: [00:59:14] Very cool. Yeah.

[00:59:17] Adam Lamb: [00:59:17] We'll see what the travel stuff.

[00:59:18] Carl Lanore: [00:59:18] Yeah. Hopefully things will get back to normal here. Pretty food and what you get back to our lives.

[00:59:22] Adam Lamb: [00:59:22] Yeah. Yeah. It, I'll do my best to do that next time.

[00:59:25] Carl Lanore: [00:59:25] Have a good weekend, brother.

[00:59:27] Adam Lamb: [00:59:27] You too.

[00:59:28] Carl Lanore: [00:59:28] I don't have a show tomorrow, so this is it for this week. Uh, we went Monday through Thursday this week. Next week we'll probably go Monday through Friday. I have a pep talk next week. Uh, thanks for listening. Share the shows please.

[00:59:42] We want to actually change people's lives with the content on this show. They don't, they don't have to patronize the sponsors. They could just take the information for free, but it takes you sharing these shows with friends of yours, family members, and getting them to tune in once in [01:00:00] awhile. And we actually can impact health in America.

[01:00:03] And abroad. We have a lot of people who listen to the UK, Australia, so hopefully we're reaching them as well. Uh, but that's it. Share a show. We'll see everybody next week. Thanks Adam.

[01:00:12] Adam Lamb: [01:00:12] Take care. [01:01:00]