Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] [00:00:00] Hey, Hey, welcome back to another episode of super human radio. Today is April 28th. We're nearing the end of the month. A lot's going on. We are 42 days into a quarantine wrong side, as you can see by the little number right there. Look at that. I'm like the weather guy. I got to know where the clouds are and uh.

[00:00:20] We're excited because a lot of States are going to be coming out. Some have already come out of lockdown. We're going to see what happens as we move forward. If you missed yesterday's show, um, you really need to tune in, especially the last 14 minutes of the show. I go on a rant, uh, that I, I propose exactly, uh, by following using some critical thinking.

[00:00:45] And looking at the seeding and spread of this virus, how we may be able to confine a future spreads of viruses very easily without shutting the entire nation down. And I know, who am I like, you know, [00:01:00] but really listen to it. It's very, very good. Um, but anyway, uh, we have a great show plan today. It's the blueprint power hour.

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[00:01:28] Yay. Yay. Yay. I ate two tasty patients yesterday for dessert after dinner. I'm on a one meal a day, a fast. Right now I'm enjoying because I'm not training as hard as I normally do and I still want something sweet at the end of my meal to punctuate it, and I can always turn. To the great folks at legendary foods produce stuff that doesn't have any sugar in it, including these amazing, uh, uh, uh, nut butters.

[00:01:56] And I had a handful of nuts this morning. That's all I've [00:02:00] eaten so far, uh, since my last meal yesterday at six o'clock. And they are the best. And you got to go there and check them out. Eat legendary.com. If you've never tried the tasty pastry, you're missing out because it is a pop tart upgraded nine grams of protein, less than one gram of sugar, and you put it in a toaster oven or in a, in an actual pop-up toaster.

[00:02:19] If you still have one Rose toasted for a little while, I mean, it's so, it's better. It's better than a pop tart and your kids will love them. So get them for your kids. Also want to mention to those of you who are starting to tune in right now, live, uh, start a watch party. Reach out to some friends by just clicking the watch party a button on Facebook while you're watching the show live, and your friends will be notified and they'll come join.

[00:02:45] Because the more people we get to tune in, uh, the more people we get to choose a healthier lifestyle, uh, the more people that will actually not have to worry about these, uh, future pandemics.

[00:02:57] Coach Rob Regish: [00:02:57] Uh, so

[00:02:58] Carl Lanore: [00:02:58] there you go. And now without, [00:03:00] uh, any other, let me just. Hi that and do that and play his theme music, of course, calling all

[00:03:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:10] blueprint army fall in line.

[00:03:13] Carl Lanore: [00:03:13] It's time for the blueprint

[00:03:14] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:14] power hour with coach

[00:03:16] Carl Lanore: [00:03:16] Rob ragers on the

[00:03:17] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:17] superhuman radio

[00:03:18] Carl Lanore: [00:03:18] network.

[00:03:23] Are you doing Rob.

[00:03:24] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:24] I'm doing well. Um, and you know, your points about Kopin 19, I think are really well taken, and, you know, it's crazy, but you're the only person that I can think of that's doing critical thinking, right? And, and making both common sense and, or, um, complex. Suggestions on how to deal with this thing, and that's especially true because the second half of what you said,

[00:03:53] Carl Lanore: [00:03:53] so you know what's really funny?

[00:03:54] Oh, Rob, we just lost you.

[00:03:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:56] Oh,

[00:03:58] Carl Lanore: [00:03:58] I'm sure he'll figure that out and come right back. [00:04:00] The really funny thing is that I, I wrote an article exactly seven and a half weeks ago, almost two months ago, about the benefits of the son and the son's production of both 25. Hydroxy vitamin D and L L three seven, which is a peptide that seems to help fight viruses and a really way before anybody was even talking about it.

[00:04:28] Um, I'm just gonna text him and say, you dropped. He should know, but hopefully he can get back in, uh, before anybody even made the connection between sun. And viruses in general, and then this virus. And now all you hear coming out of the CDC and all those people who really are paid to think about this stuff is that the son may be playing a role in protecting us from getting this virus.

[00:04:56] I don't know what's going on with Rob. He usually connects right away. Let me try reaching out [00:05:00] to him real quick. Hold on a second.

[00:05:04] Oh, here he comes. Here he comes. Here he comes.

[00:05:07] Coach Rob Regish: [00:05:07] Here he comes.

[00:05:08] Carl Lanore: [00:05:08] Oh, okay. Alright. Uh, you're not here yet, Rob. We have pro. Here he comes. Here he comes. Here he comes. Let me get a, Nope. There we go. Okay, excellent. Okay. Can you hear me Rob? Now? I can't hear you. Can't hear you. No, I think we're going to have to restart the sh.

[00:05:31] Oh, there you go. Wait, wait. Is that you? Yeah. Your microphone takes a little while to warm up. Yeah. So anyway, uh, yes, but you're right. We've been talking about things on this show for a long time that actually have value. Uh, and I'm not just throwing fear-mongering out there. I'm actually trying to give people solutions.

[00:05:52] And like I was saying before we lost you, I wrote that article about the sun. And Corona virus seven and a half weeks ago, almost two [00:06:00] months ago, and just now we're starting to hear in the news that the sunbae help prevent coronavirus.

[00:06:06] Coach Rob Regish: [00:06:06] I saw, my wife laughed and she said, Carl was talking about this two months ago.

[00:06:12] Carl Lanore: [00:06:12] I know. Could you imagine? I mean, I know this is very self-serving for me to say. But could you imagine if I reached more people in this country and more people signed on and subscribe to the idea that hard work, getting to sleep on time and eating an ancestral diet actually has a value in protecting you and making you live longer?

[00:06:33] Just think of the burden to health care that would be removed.

[00:06:40] And live and live. Um, so let's get right to the show today. The first question comes from Joe Tarantino. I wonder if he's related to a Quintin. He says, um, I wanted to get you and meaning me and Rob's thoughts on nutrient partitioning supplements. [00:07:00] Uh, do they work for better absorption like they claim also, you mentioned a microdosing LSD on a podcast.

[00:07:08] What protocol do you use? What website do you order it from? So let's start with the first question. Cause a lot of supplement companies would make a lot of money selling a glucose disposal type products and nutrient partitioning type product type products. What do you think.

[00:07:24] Coach Rob Regish: [00:07:24] You know, the first time I heard this term, it was from Dr.

[00:07:27] Scott cannoli, right when he rolled out metrics. Um, and he used the term, uh, re partitions nutrients. And so what he claimed was that do do metrics is amino acid profile. It preferentially redirected calories away from fat in towards muscle. And then later on, right? There was a whole swath of. Supplements that claim the same thing.

[00:07:55] But if you think about it, I mean, honestly, sit down and think way back. [00:08:00] Bodybuilders have been practicing nutrient partitioning for decades, so you know if the calories you eat in the hour or so after you train, that's almost all of it goes towards muscle and almost numb towards fat. That's nutrient partition.

[00:08:17] Um, your point, Carl, that you made a million times, you can overeat all you want on protein and you're not going to get fat. That's nutrient partitioning too. Uh, so there are drugs though, um, which caused this effect, some of which. Do so in disease States like, uh, adult onset diabetes, and those would be your glucose disposal agents, like , that format and so forth.

[00:08:47] The concept that Metrix introduced though was that Hey, here was an over the counter supplement that can do the same thing and to be fair. The first metrics, the first few [00:09:00] batches that were rolled out seem to have that effect, but I want you to also think about this. There were two things going on then during that time period that may have contributed to that effect.

[00:09:11] First was, of course the rumors that metrics was spiked with a little something extra. At least the first batches were, I don't know about that. What I can tell you is that I use both the new and the older ones, you know, and. After the first batch, you didn't quite get the same effects or no effects at all.

[00:09:32] Um, and so thereafter, compounds like vanadyl sulfate came out and, and again, the nutrient partitioning claim, I personally don't think that compounds lived up to that, that particular claim. There are a couple of things which do do it. Uh, the legal ones, one of the best legal ones is Anna cyclist. . We use that in progenitor directs.

[00:09:56] It does in fact help a lot of people eat a [00:10:00] lot more carbs and not have it show up around their waistline. And I'm one of those people where usually goes right to my waistline, not so, or at least not so much. Okay. Ephedrine, caffeine, that's a real nutrient partitioning type thing. Study show, you'll hang onto more muscle while you're dieting and certainly lose more fat.

[00:10:21] Colombian, Raul and some other beta two agonists. Those take nutrient partitioning to a kind of new level. And then you had things like mitochondrial and couplers like DMP, and it's over the counter equivalent. It was NIC acid that had nutrient re partitioning effects. Unfortunately. Um, some people also died as a result of taking too much.

[00:10:47] Uh, DNP. I'm not sure about  Nick Gasson. I know there were liver transplants. I'm not, so I don't know if anyone died, but needless to say, kind of risky stuff. If you think about it [00:11:00] though, the ultimate nutrient partitioning agents are anabolic steroids. Because people can clearly, they can eat more. And most of it seems to go towards building muscle.

[00:11:15] They can also maximize every gram of protein that they take in because of the way the drugs elevate protein synthesis. So, so here's the bottom line. Nutrient partitioning is real, and I think it's a real thing. Uh, although the most powerful compounds in that regard are. Are mostly illegal in the United States.

[00:11:38] If you're interested in the concept though, of nutrient partitioning, I would tell you that there's a lot to learn just doing it with food timed with exercise. There really is, and it's so worthwhile for you to learn that information because it will serve you well for the rest of your life, just the way [00:12:00] you eat.

[00:12:01] Uh, I can, I can also say this. Reading up on Vince Geronda stuff. It was a trainer in the 1950s. Uh, you will be astounded at what you learned concerning that topic, and while you're reading it, the last thing I'll say is try to put yourself in, in Vince issues. At that time, nobody was talking about eating a high fat diet.

[00:12:27] You know, where he was advocating up to 36 raw eggs a day, liver heavy cream, et cetera, et cetera. So that's the kind of nutrient partitioning that I look to learn about.

[00:12:40] Carl Lanore: [00:12:40] You know what else is interesting? When we talk about nutrient partitioning, what we really mean is we want to build muscle and lose fat because an obese person has successfully nutrient partitioned, they just partitioned more of it into body fat.

[00:12:54] Coach Rob Regish: [00:12:54] Right?

[00:12:54] Carl Lanore: [00:12:54] So you know, when we, when we really talk about nutrient partitioning, what we're really talking about is increasing [00:13:00] insulin sensitivity because what we want is muscle to be fed, but we also want to discriminate against , increasing insulin sensitivity and fat because we don't want fat to be fed.

[00:13:13] And as you pointed out, the most valuable. Partitioning agent is exercise and the meals that follow after it, that triggers the partitioning. I want to give shout out to a couple of people who are watching live. Patrick Rogers is always here. Uh, what a wonderful guy. Patrick, we talked about you this morning because all these processing plants are killing animals.

[00:13:34] Because people don't know how to process their own animals anymore. Patrick, so they're killing pigs and chickens because they, if they can't be processed at the plants, people wouldn't know what to do with them. I said to Elisa's, we should send those animals to Patrick. He could process them for us. Ryan Fitz is watching live.

[00:13:51] Jennifer ruggish, she's watching live. So you better be good. You better be good. Uh, Jeremiah Fisher, uh, Andrea Penna, Michael's [00:14:00] Avadine, Ron Vennie, and a good friend of the show, Christopher Gustafsson is watching from across the pond. Uh, so thank you for being here. Live all of you. But yeah, when we talk about nutrient partitioning, let's really call it what it is we want.

[00:14:13] Anibolism we want more muscle. We want less body fat,

[00:14:16] Coach Rob Regish: [00:14:16] right? Yup. Yup. That's it.

[00:14:19] Carl Lanore: [00:14:19] Now, what about the second part of the question? He wants to know about the microdosing LSD. I guess this is my, my wheelhouse, right?

[00:14:26] Coach Rob Regish: [00:14:26] Yeah. I was gonna say, I've got no experience. So,

[00:14:28] Carl Lanore: [00:14:28] so, okay, so micro dosing, LSD, you usually anywhere from 20 to 40 micrograms every third day.

[00:14:35] This is the standard protocol. This is not a protocol I use. I actually take it daily, small doses. Um, but you can experiment with that. Uh, they say there's no value in taking a daily. Because it has a fairly long half life. Uh, but if you're taking such low doses, it's kind of like we used to tell people to take Cialis, uh, 30 milligrams every third day.

[00:14:57] Now they tell people, no, just take eight milligrams a day [00:15:00] and you get the same benefits, uh, and less of the side effects, which would, that first day you took a big dose, you could get heartburn and stuff like that. So they all just take eight, eight milligrams a day. Um. The place to go. So the place to go and buy, it used to be a website called like surgey.com it's a play on the word lysergic acid, L.

[00:15:24] Y, S, E, R, G. I. Dot com. So the lysergic is spelled L. Y. S. E. R. G. I see. What they did is they put a dot between the. The, uh, at the end before the C. so it's ly, surgey, L, Y, S, E, R, G, i.com. However, they have gone out of business, but on their website, they have links out to several other reliable suppliers.

[00:15:52] They're all outside the USA. Um, but here's what you need to know about it. It's really a pain in the ass to order. I just recently ordered, [00:16:00] the only way to order is to either use some sort of cryptocurrency, like Bitcoin. Oh. Or to have money directly wired to them from your bank to their bank. And there's no credit cards.

[00:16:13] They don't take credit cards. Uh, and you and Europe, they take credit cards, ironically, but not from the USA. So that, that's where to go here. So Patrick Gore, he responded. He said, bring it, we'll, we will have steaks. Yeah. Cause Patrick processes all his own animals. He's often sends me pictures. I'm very, very jealous.

[00:16:33] But yeah. Patrick, nobody knows what my grandfather used to buy live chickens. I watched him. I watched him ring the chicken's neck, cut the head off, take the feathers off, cut it open, take the gizzards and everything out. My grandmother would cook that chicken that afternoon. Pete. Nobody knows how to process animals anymore except us hunters baby.

[00:16:52] That's it. It's really interesting. We're literally going to be throwing away millions and millions of pounds of meat [00:17:00] because if it's not processed for us, we don't know what to do with it. No,

[00:17:04] Coach Rob Regish: [00:17:04] it's too bad.

[00:17:05] Carl Lanore: [00:17:05] The next question comes from. Brian Ortega. He says, I heard you once saying you used an equity injectable, you actually had it made for you, or we're going to use one.

[00:17:16] I can't remember. I want to use one too, so can you tell me where to get it? Or if anybody is making it, can you tell me what I need to, how I need to make one? If I have 95% equity stare on in hand.

[00:17:31] Coach Rob Regish: [00:17:31] Yeah, this is going to be a fun one. That's so, um, yeah, you're absolutely right. Around six or seven years ago now, I think, um, I did in fact use a sterile injectable empty stare own product.

[00:17:46] Um, however, I did not make it so to speak. A certain, uh, well-known chemist made it for me. Uh, and you know what, during that time, I got what I considered excellent results, including. [00:18:00] Oddly enough, some very impressive upper arm games. And that was quite unexpected because I wasn't training him directly and I sure wasn't shooting there.

[00:18:12] Um, so it was, it was welcomed, but I guess weird

[00:18:16] Carl Lanore: [00:18:16] tricep bicep or both?

[00:18:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:18:20] Uh, well, like I said, I wasn't shooting there.

[00:18:22] Carl Lanore: [00:18:22] No, no, no. The upper arm where they tricep biceps or both?

[00:18:28] Coach Rob Regish: [00:18:28] You know, that's a great question. I'm not sure that I made the distinction. I just tape measured it and okay. Now there, and what I would, I would guess tricep, but that's a guess.

[00:18:41] So, anyway, um, to the best of my knowledge, there's no company making a sterile injectable like the stair on. I mean, why would they technically by the letter of the law. It's illegal. That doesn't mean it's not a worthwhile exercise.

[00:18:57] Carl Lanore: [00:18:57] They legal or is it illegal for athletes to use?

[00:19:01] [00:19:00] Coach Rob Regish: [00:19:01] It's illegal to use. And in the way that it's, let's say, made for, you know, in the past, things like this have been sold as, um.

[00:19:13] Sterile, you know, transdermal when, when, excuse me. And so, and some people would, would shoot it. I don't know. To me, it just be crazy to try to sell, um, because it's so obvious. But be that as it may, uh, nobody I know is doing what that does not mean though. It's not a good idea. Maybe to call around to some vet supply houses to say, Hey.

[00:19:41] You know, do you have any injectable actually stair on products because make it for animals? Yes, they do. Or they say they used to, let me put it that way. These, they used to. Um, and that was going back to 2012 when I was running the blueprint 3.0 I reached out to, uh, a guy that was actually [00:20:00] using it on his animals in checklist, Slovakia.

[00:20:03] Interesting. Very interesting stuff. Now. Is it possible to brew your own? Yeah, I would imagine it is. Um, and you know, it's, it might not be ideal, but it wouldn't be impossible. Most most recipes, right. For this home. Grood gear, if you will, are fairly straightforward. You're right. You'd have your, your. Um, bulk powder compound, whether that's testosterone trend Balone directly sterile.

[00:20:34] Okay. You'd have, I dunno, five grams. Let's stay powder. Then you'll have your benzyl alcohol Benzel benzo away, um, and either sterile water or grape seed oil or some sort of oil to dissolve the compound. Of course, the whole thing is, is heated. Um, to kill off any bacteria, which is the main concern,

[00:20:57] Carl Lanore: [00:20:57] which raises the question, would the act the [00:21:00] survive that, cause you have to put it in your oven for numerous hours at the highest temperature that your oven will run.

[00:21:06] Once, once you put it into the vehicle and it's in, it's in, it's in the oil dissolved in the oil, then you have to heat it. Would the  survive that high heat?

[00:21:17] Coach Rob Regish: [00:21:17] Very shrewd observation. I'm getting to that. Um, but then the whole thing is, if I'm not mistaken, it's run through a sterile filter, right? 

[00:21:29] Carl Lanore: [00:21:29] very expensive Watman filters and they, and they require high pressure, so you have to buy a pump with it that's going to pump the oil through this medium that literally looks like, like board.

[00:21:43] That gets so dense and you have to push it through that so that it leaves all of the impurities behind.

[00:21:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:21:49] Right? And so in the past, you know, if you're doing this with test or trend, then the recipes are pretty straightforward. Guys kind of know how to make it right. [00:22:00] Um, but equity is another animal and it gets back to what to dissolve in them.

[00:22:07] And then also your, your point, Carl, about heating. These various acne steroids have different melting points. Eating it up to the melting point is that therefore, you know, destroying the compound. Um, the issue is this, most equity, steroids and bear bear in mind, there are over 500 that are been identified.

[00:22:29] Most of them are water soluble due to the multiple hydroxyl groups that are coming off those long tails. On the end of, of our fans favorite four carbon structures, the exception there being rubbed roster, Rome. Um, but that's certainly the odd ball out of the bunch. Interestingly though, if you dissolve 95%  in water, uh, and the, it should be white by the way.

[00:22:58] It'll go into [00:23:00] solution and then, you know, when you're mixing it around and so forth. But after that Whirlpool effect ends. Most of it. Then most of the powders settles to the bottom in the middle, which obviously is not what you want. On the other hand, if you dissolve that same compound into olive oil, it dissolves almost fully.

[00:23:23] Very little of it is left on the bottom, but hold on a minute, right? I just got done establishing most empty stair runes are water soluble. So what gives? Well, what gives is  contains way more than just equity. Steroids. It contains various flavanoids, um, tannins, resins, et cetera, et cetera, not just the acting.

[00:23:51] So I would tell you, if you're hell bent on doing it, then I would make it, if you're using.  use [00:24:00] it as an internal oil as opposed to a liquid. To the best of my knowledge, nobody's made anything like a reponsi come sippy and Nate, or an Anthem or other longer Esther. Um, therefore you're probably going to have to pin daily.

[00:24:15] Right? Or at the very

[00:24:16] Carl Lanore: [00:24:16] least, you probably could do subcutaneous. I bet you you don't even have to do it. You're muscular. Oh,

[00:24:21] Coach Rob Regish: [00:24:21] well, we're getting to that at the very least every other day. Now. I also need though to tell you the other side of this story, and it is this, there is one study that was published in 2018 that showed injectable subcutaneous acting caused, um, some kidney pathology.

[00:24:46] And if you, if you, and this was done in rats, but if the rats were people, it would have only been 50 milligrams a day. If you're making an objective black D stare on, you should be able to get it to about a a [00:25:00] hundred milligrams per milliliter. Uh, this would be just half of that, and they were administered again, subcutaneously.

[00:25:10] Now the question becomes, well, does that mean my active stair on his kidney toxic? No, I personally don't think that's the case. At least. We are using the compound orally now. I had no problems that I was aware of when I was shooting it. Um, but to be fair, I didn't have blood work done, uh, during that time.

[00:25:33] Now orally, Lord knows I've used more of it than most over the past 30 years. The only kidney issues I've had in those 30 years were secondary to REM. No. Okay. Or, or possibly caused by one of the prescription drugs that I was taking, but back to making your own so long as you live. We're going to talk about the risks.

[00:25:57] Now. One of the [00:26:00] things that appeals to people about using equity as opposed to something else is that it's legal. So as long as you live in a state that allows for pens, for personal use. There is very little, if any legal risks, everything that you need to make it, you know, you can order yourself. The greater risk as I see it is, is getting a possible abscess or infection.

[00:26:26] Um, and unlike test or trend. Also understanding the risk to reward thing. You're not going to gain the dramatic amounts of muscle that you will from, you know, high doses of either of those two, which isn't to say that you will gain any, um, but you have to weigh that right versus the possible legal and health risks.

[00:26:47] Carl Lanore: [00:26:47] Well, and you know what? The other thing here with, if you're buying equity, you're most likely buying it from another country. And if you're buying equity from another country, like say China, [00:27:00] you don't even know. I mean, unless you're taking someone and having a mass spec it for you. You're taking a COA from China.

[00:27:08] That's Russian roulette with your health. You don't even know what's real.

[00:27:12] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:12] Yeah. You know, a a C of H your point proves no,

[00:27:16] Carl Lanore: [00:27:16] they re, I bought things from China and it was clear that the COA I was getting was like. Z, you know, photocopied so many times that it wasn't even legible anymore. You know, and it's the way, and the COA is good for 20 years.

[00:27:30] It's like, come on, you're going to run out before 20 years is up. What do you still use the COA with? You know,

[00:27:35] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:35] the best, the best that you can do in that situation, I think is going to third party lab analysis, corroborating.

[00:27:42] Carl Lanore: [00:27:42] You have to, if you're going to make your own injectables at home, you absolutely have to have somebody mass spec it for you because you've got to see what else is in there.

[00:27:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:51] I have spoken over the years, um, to one individual who really likes it and has had been using [00:28:00] it pretty much that entire time. So he makes his own injectable AQI sterile. And the question though is why? Right. Well, the reason is, um, he had been popped for steroid distribution years ago and is on, or was on or is still on some sort of probation.

[00:28:20] Right? So he can't be shooting trap, test, trend deck and none of that stuff. He will shoot and prefers to shoot in isolated individual equity. Stair owns such as 20 hydroxyurea  or SIAST or Rome. Um, and part of the reason why he does that, I was, I called him up specifically for this question was what you said prior Carl melting point.

[00:28:47] He says, well, at least I know I can test it and know it's, you know, what's on the label is actually in there. Yeah. So, um, we, we always had what you would call an [00:29:00] interesting conversation, right. Every single time he remains really one big strong dude too. Um, and when, so when speaking to him recently, he tells me that he's still doing it, which means.

[00:29:14] His legal problems go back to 2006

[00:29:18] Carl Lanore: [00:29:18] yeah, he's out. He's out of the woods with that, but he's prefers to continue to use this instead of some sort of a anabolic steroids

[00:29:25] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:25] and has been doing so for 15 years.

[00:29:29] Carl Lanore: [00:29:29] But do you really have, I don't, I don't, you know, it's kind of like, I don't think it's necessary to inject it if you have a good quality equity, sterile and oral.

[00:29:39] A supplementation is proven to be effective. I don't think that you're really gaining anything but lots of risk by injecting and unless a compounding pharmacy is going to start making it. And keep in mind, I spoke to a compounding pharmacist when the study came out that water was gonna say Ekra was [00:30:00] off, was banned from Olympic athletes and professional athletes.

[00:30:04] And I said, you know. There's a lot of non-athletes out there that would love to use this stuff. And he said that he could make it. He said, yeah, but you know, I'd have to get the raw materials, but we could definitely make an injectable actually sterile. So there, there is a more, I really think there's a market for injectable.

[00:30:19] I, I don't, I don't, I don't understand why subcutaneously injected versus intramuscularly injected with challenge the Le, the kidneys more that doesn't make any sense is some flaw that there was more to that study. Uh, than meets the eye because if you inject it in your muscles, you're injected under your skin.

[00:30:39] That doesn't pick up any special metabolites. It's not converting differently. It's not, again, if they were starting out with a, a dirty, raw material to start with, I don't care where you inject it, it's going to give you kidney problems. But with that being said, I think, I think there's a market for it for average people, not athletes.

[00:30:58] Coach Rob Regish: [00:30:58] Yeah. And [00:31:00] in 30 years, I have never seen. One thing other than this one study showing that empty sterile was anything but but beneficial for every single organ in your body. There's an outlier there somewhere. I'll have to go back and read the whole thing, but I'm pretty sure, uh, it's not, it's a non issue.

[00:31:23] Carl Lanore: [00:31:23] All right. We're going to take one more. We're going to answer one more question now, and if you have questions and you're watching on the Su-Preme radio network page, you can post them and we'll, we'll answer them. We'll go to this one. Then we're going to take a quick commercial break. So this one comes from Kevin Andrews.

[00:31:36] He says, uh, I set up bare bones home gym and not sure if. I'll be going back to the place I membership that I had a membership at. A one thing I've found is that I'm noticeably stronger when making one rep max attempts and on my bench in my bench press squat and dead lift at home. Why is this? Yeah, because you're scared crap that you're going to [00:32:00] staple yourself to the bench.

[00:32:01] That's why.

[00:32:02] Coach Rob Regish: [00:32:02] Yeah. Yeah. And so to expand on that, I have noticed this exact same thing in people and in myself. Um, some people lift noticeably heavier at home. Others it's just the opposite and it doesn't matter really which one you are. The tie that binds and what it explains it is, is psychology. It's what's going on in your head.

[00:32:25] People that lift noticeably heavier at home usually do so, in my opinion, because they're not concerned with what other people are gonna think. If you get . Staple to the bench, right. And plastered and look like a fool. You know, the, the, the damn plates could come flying off the bar and nobody's going to see it.

[00:32:45] Okay. So that I think is a, is a big reason why there's, they're stronger.

[00:32:51] Carl Lanore: [00:32:51] Well, I like to, I like to, I like to expand on that comment. Yeah, sure. Cause you're right. So we did a show about grunting. I was still at [00:33:00] clear channel. So this had to be 2006 or seven. No. I interviewed a scientist who published a study that showed that grunting, while training increases strength output by as much as 5% that's considerable.

[00:33:17] And what I learned from that study was grunting in science is called vocal disinhibition, right? Inhibition. And so the display of strength. In a public forum requires you to be uninhibited because there's lots of people who may look at you like a meathead. You know when you, when you're going to do something where you're going to use as much strength as you can.

[00:33:53] You can't be hampered by thinking what will people think of me? Because you have to, [00:34:00] you have to tap into everything. Humanly possible to move a particular weight. So your mind has to be focused on that. It can't be wondering. And what I learned from that study was strong people typically are dis-inhibited people.

[00:34:16] They are not worried about what other people think. So you're right, you're exactly right on this. Science has shown this. People who grunt don't give a crap. What other people think while they're grunting, right? People, people who don't grunt, they don't want to grunt because they don't want to annoy somebody else.

[00:34:31] And we have, we have an entire gym chain that is profited on this  called planet fatness. I mean fitness, I'm sorry. And so you know, the, the, the grunt free zone, it's like, no, grunting is a natural byproduct of exertion. And holding back. Your grunting isn't going to make you stronger. It's gonna make you weaker.

[00:34:53] So there is definitely a connection between the ability to be [00:35:00] disinhibited and be strong. So you're absolutely right, and in your own home, you're going to grunt you. If you fart while you're squatting, you're not going to worry about the chick next to you who's doing . You know what I mean? It's you're on your own.

[00:35:13] You're absolutely right. Absolutely right.

[00:35:16] Coach Rob Regish: [00:35:16] Yeah. And, and so that's people that, that are stronger at home for that reason. Um, conversely, people that are stronger in the gym,

[00:35:26] Carl Lanore: [00:35:26] we love, we love it. We love attention.

[00:35:28] Coach Rob Regish: [00:35:28] Well, not just that, but, but the fear of failing. That's a lot of, they use that as positive pressure, right?

[00:35:36] So they go into a gym to max out. They know there's a risk. They're not going to hit it, but they up their game. Okay. And I did a, let's say, a version of this not long ago. I had a 12 workout loading pattern. I did 11 workouts, right? All of the nuts and bolts in the back room where there was nobody trap [00:36:00] bar deadlift when it came to time for max day though, and went out in the front on the dead lift platform, right in between two other groups of 27 year old kids.

[00:36:13] And I nailed my one rep max with these because I personally got a big kick out of lifted kids. So what's important is not really which one you are. What is important is to know how to use this information to up your game and do well in either of your chosen environments. A few lucky people can do well in both.

[00:36:42] And, and I, I've done well in both over the years to me too, but it takes a switch in psychology.

[00:36:49] Carl Lanore: [00:36:49] But you know, I noticed that like when I'm training in the backyard, I like the idea that my neighbors are watching me.

[00:36:54] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:54] Yeah.

[00:36:55] Carl Lanore: [00:36:55] I swear I'm, I'm being honest, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I, you know, I, I w [00:37:00] I, I want, I want to be honest because just in case you have one of those people, you go, Oh, I'm not a, I'm not a nut.

[00:37:04] You know, like I like, I liked that they watch me swing that 65 pound kettlebell. I liked that they watched me go up and down the street with my kettle bells in hand. I liked that they see me busting out pushups. I like that they see me, you know, doing the things that I like that I like an audience. I've always liked that.

[00:37:20] And I think that I'm one of those people who's definitely stronger at the gym. Because I like people because you know what? I was never a strong kid. In fact, I got my ass kicked a lot when I was a kid. It was only through Umer that I learned how to assuage attacks. But then when I found out how strong I was, I was like, Holy crap.

[00:37:40] You know, I can't believe this that I, you know, I'm squatting this for a dead lift in this, and then I loved people to watch me. It was really funny.

[00:37:47] Coach Rob Regish: [00:37:47] Yeah. Yeah, and you can use it, like I said, in different ways. The last place that I can recall using it was sled sprints, so believe it or not, I had built up to sprinting [00:38:00] sled sprints for 15 minutes.

[00:38:02] Pretty much continuous. Of course, you're, you're stripping weight off the slat after so many trips, but you, the point is you keep going. I remember one day there were, there was a football coach back there and maybe three or four of his players. And you could just see the look on their face. When is this guy going to drop this

[00:38:22] Carl Lanore: [00:38:22] old guy,

[00:38:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:38:23] right?

[00:38:24] And so, uh, I eventually got to 15 minutes. Um, but I'll, I'll tell you, I'll be honest and just say that helped, you know, Hey, what's, what's the deal? We'll see when the old guy's gonna drop. Oh my God.

[00:38:39] Carl Lanore: [00:38:39] Yeah, look, look, look, look, Patrick Rogers, he's one of us. We know that he's, I like being neighbors thinking I'm crazy.

[00:38:45] I hear you man.

[00:38:46] Coach Rob Regish: [00:38:46] I hear you. Yup,

[00:38:48] Carl Lanore: [00:38:48] I hear ya. So, nah, this is great stuff. You know all, it's all about being honest too on this show. You know what? We want to share information that people can use. . I've actually pooped squatting one time, so I will be [00:39:00] honest about that. That's why. That's why I learned that before.

[00:39:03] I used to go in and squad heavy. I always had that pregame poop before I walked into the gym because I didn't want to have squats turned into squirts, so that's not a good thing. I will get a ticket. We're going to take a quick commercial break. On that note, we'll be right back. Stay tuned.

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[00:40:27] And it's not who you think it

[00:40:29] Coach Rob Regish: [00:40:29] is. So you want to

[00:40:30] Carl Lanore: [00:40:30] stay tuned for that. Uh, the next question comes from Mike Kellogg. He says, I like your approach to things in particular supplements he's talking to you, obviously Rob, not me. Um, but what's out there today? What, what's out there today is kind of murky. You have gray market stuff and even stuff that's supposed to be illegal like Clenn, but clearly sold by most research chemical places.

[00:40:55] What's up with this.

[00:40:58] Coach Rob Regish: [00:40:58] Yeah. Well, it's a [00:41:00] really interesting question, right? And so what we're talking about is, um, where do we all draw the line, right? Um, on what we use, what we, what we decided to order, et cetera, et cetera. So in my younger years, I can tell you I only had one single criteria, you know, and whether or not it was going to use something, and that was legality, just didn't want to take the risk of the black market.

[00:41:27] To be totally honest with you, safety was a distant second, right? You're young, you think you're indestructable. So safety is, is, is not an issue, frankly, that ever factored much into the equation. Um, until supplements again, came on the market that actually worked. And so you could get away with the triple the dose.

[00:41:53] Hope for the most mentality. With things like diamond Corp Zayde or frack Ferulic [00:42:00] acid. Try that with a federal though, and trust me, it'll leave an impression and not a good one. You know, you'll learn not to do that today. I would tell you the situation is obviously a lot different. I'm 50 years old. I have a son, I have a wife, EV responsibilities, and so.

[00:42:23] Safety and legality, I would say are, are equal of equal importance, so to speak. So it's not always that simple though. Uh, as your question alludes to, and I'm going to use your example of cleanse because it's a good one. Clenbuterol is listed by the letter of the law in the original anabolic steroid control act.

[00:42:49] Way back or what, 1990 or 91 or something. Um, although it's not a steroids, as I mentioned before, it's a beta two agonist, you know, some asthma [00:43:00] type medication. Nevertheless, it is listed in there and lumped into the same category as things like from below. Despite that fact, research chemical sites are selling it.

[00:43:15] And people are ordering it and using it no different than going to Amazon and buying creative. Why this is, I am not entirely sure you couldn't do that. For example, with a bombs or test sippy night, at least you couldn't do it for long before he got caught. And then the penalties are real stiff. And remember, Colin is in the same area, um, as the steroids are schedule three.

[00:43:44] So, and cleanliness being available is something that, from what I've seen, has been going on for years now. I've used plenty of peptides and I've benefited from, um, although those are technically illegal to [00:44:00] sell as a supplement

[00:44:02] Carl Lanore: [00:44:02] to sell over the counter without a prescription. Exactly.

[00:44:04] Coach Rob Regish: [00:44:04] Right. Right. Because right.

[00:44:06] As we know, some of them were progressive longevity clinics and doctors. Are carry peptides, thankfully. Um, so you know that, uh, let's see. Other examples. I have used order in order ordered and used Modafinil, which is technically a schedule four drug in the United States available only by prescription. I guess the new criteria then for me is as follows, it has to have a reasonable safety profile.

[00:44:40] In a very low risk of, of legal consequences, right? If somebody wants to make an issue about it, I would tell you that if you have anything to lose, and I think we all do, right? Including our freedom, don't play in the schedule three area where admitted the [00:45:00] most of the fun stuff is right. I mean, that's just how it goes.

[00:45:05] Never forget though, the one thing. That you can't buy, and that is health. Good health. Yeah. Any compound you use should have that reasonable safety profile that I mentioned, which means you don't screw around with things like DNP. Um, again, that line is different for everyone and it's going to be different for you.

[00:45:32] At age 25 than it will at age 45 .

[00:45:35] Carl Lanore: [00:45:35] But I also would say I would put Clinton in that category. People a way to Willy nilly about taking Clenbuterol. Clenbuterol has been shown in numerous studies to damage the heart. And especially in the doses that bodybuilders take them for fat loss. Clenbuterol has been shown to actually accumulate necrotic tissue in cardiomyocytes.

[00:45:55] It's a horrible drug. And I don't, I, to this day, I mean, I, and you [00:46:00] know, I've been talking about this for a long time. I know three bodybuilders who all have cardiomyopathy today, and I know it's because of their clin goes to

[00:46:08] Coach Rob Regish: [00:46:08] college. Yeah. And you're absolutely right. Cleanse, cardiotoxicity showed up some time ago, so it shouldn't be a mystery to anyone.

[00:46:17] Now I do get a lot of questions like, this will two weeks hurt me. My gut feeling is probably not, you know, two weeks, once a year, twice a year, probably not gonna get a result in any long lasting damage. But the operative word there is probably.

[00:46:39] Carl Lanore: [00:46:39] Yeah. Nobody, you could have an underlying issue and be more susceptible to the changes.

[00:46:43] Um, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's, you know, the, the other thing that, that does that bike, quite frankly, is trend. Bologne people have to understand that trend bologne increases pulmonary hypertension, blood pressure between the heart and the lungs. It's why it's why you could be the, [00:47:00] you could, and I, I've experienced this myself when I was living in Arizona, I was going hiking every single day for cardio.

[00:47:06] Uh, up a couple of different mountains there. And then I started a 600 milligram a week trend annotate cycle along with everything else I was taking. Literally in two days. I, I was winded. I couldn't even go up those mountains anymore. So, you know, that's another one that causes a lot of tension in the heart and could lead to cardiomyopathy.

[00:47:24] And you know. Your brain in your heart, you know, like you can't live without those two things. Your brain and your heart. And unfortunately your heart is at the mercy of your brain when you make stupid decisions. Cleanse and DNP is horrible. You know, DNP works because of its toxicity. It causes mitochondrial uncoupling.

[00:47:44] It makes the mitochondria work harder. It's like, it's like taking your, your car and, and, and. Welding the the axles and then driving it and it's got a struggle just to turn the wheels like that, [00:48:00] that's going to burn out your engine. You know, your car is not going to last long and people will take DNP for its weight loss.

[00:48:05] It's just dumb. You know? I'm sure that if you drank small amounts, if you microdosed petrol gasoline, it probably would cause something favorable by your body. Recomposition but like, would you do that? Would you really do that? And sadly, I think there's people who would, quite

[00:48:22] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:22] frankly, well, there are people desperate to write to lose fat.

[00:48:27] But you know, if that all didn't dissuade you from using it, maybe these two things will. Number one, there is no known answer. Dope. They get you to the hospital. They're probably going to put you in a size up advice, but no one will

[00:48:44] Carl Lanore: [00:48:44] diet.

[00:48:45] Coach Rob Regish: [00:48:45] And number two, uh. Not only do you die, it's an excruciating death by all accounts.

[00:48:53] It's like being microwaved. Think about that from the inside out. [00:49:00] Your friend yourself. For what? For what

[00:49:03] Carl Lanore: [00:49:03] I've just done, I've never done cleanse. Not once. Never done. I've never done DNP. Not once, and there's a lot of people, if they looked at the drugs I have done both recreational and, and, and, and, and enhance and sport or anabolic enhancing drugs.

[00:49:19] I mean, I've done a lot of stuff that people would probably go, Oh my God, are you crazy? No, I'm not crazy. I, I understand the risks of everything I take. And I would never take Clinton. I would never take DNP. That should tell you something right there.

[00:49:31] Coach Rob Regish: [00:49:31] Yeah. The last thing I'll say about climb is just a note of interest.

[00:49:36] For the longest time, um, the studies showing muscle growth were only in the animals. They just got done wrapping one up where it's, it happens in humans. Yeah.

[00:49:49] Carl Lanore: [00:49:49] There's no doubt about it, but it only, it only happens, it only happens for about two or three weeks and then it's, and then it wears off.

[00:49:57] Coach Rob Regish: [00:49:57] Yup. Yup.

[00:49:59] We

[00:49:59] Carl Lanore: [00:49:59] have a, we have a [00:50:00] question from a listener. Tommy D we'll get that up there real quick. Then we'll go onto the next, uh, predetermined question, and then we'll take a break for the, uh, blueprint tip of the day. Sure. Tommy says, ah, I've been able to get the most of the number nine and 10 difficulty exercises out of convict conditioning, uh, specified in the book over over the years.

[00:50:22] However, the one arm handstand pushup seems elusive as ever. Been stuck at number eight for years. Your two cc's on what is the truly attainable this re this particular exercise. Thanks. Yeah. Could it be that the book has something in there that no one will ever actually attain?

[00:50:44] Coach Rob Regish: [00:50:44] Well, that's a good point.

[00:50:45] Um, he claimed the author claims that he was able to do them. Whether you believe that or not. I, I dunno. I don't know that it matters. I will say this, in all the years that it's been out. And all the research that I've [00:51:00] done. I have not found one person online that can do one. You know, I've, I've seen some people who can maybe go halfway, but really ask yourself if you're able to get to step seven, eight or nine on a one arm handstand, push up.

[00:51:21] My God, you know, you're in the top. One half of 1% right, of the population. So what I would tell you is don't give up. Keep

[00:51:35] Carl Lanore: [00:51:35] it down either. Yeah.

[00:51:37] Coach Rob Regish: [00:51:37] Yeah. But don't be let down. It's like, Oh God, I got all the rest of these, but nothing when our pants push up. Well,

[00:51:43] Carl Lanore: [00:51:43] you know, BFD, right. You know,

[00:51:47] Coach Rob Regish: [00:51:47] and, and the same thing goes for a couple other movements in there.

[00:51:49] Like people that can do a one arm pushup with both feet together, touching. I haven't seen it other than some really ugly [00:52:00] twisting, uh, versions. But again, you know, don't let that get you down, man. You keep, keep going, keep going and keep trying because if there's one thing that'll make you successful in this game, it's showing up and being relentless about achieving your goals.

[00:52:19] Carl Lanore: [00:52:19] Yeah. That's a good one.

[00:52:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:20] Yeah. That's good.

[00:52:22] Carl Lanore: [00:52:22] I, the next question comes from, uh, let's see here. Mike Kellogg. No, we just did him. I'm sorry. Sorry. Um, the next question actually comes from Kevin Lawson. So Kevin says, uh, where do most of the steroids in this country come from? I ask because after operation gear, grinder and others, I would think feds made major dent in their availability.

[00:52:50] Is this stuff out there today? Even real? Are they arresting anyone?

[00:52:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:52:56] Yeah. You know, um, I'm not the guy [00:53:00] because of the decisions that it made, right? The legality thing. I'm not the guy to know what's going on, you know, up to the minute in the black market where the stuff comes from. I can tell you that it only takes a little bit of reading to figure out what was going, um, and what may be going on today and in the future.

[00:53:20] So, you know, here are some observations. Observation number one, there's still plenty of gear out there for sale, right? And, and it's, the demand isn't going anywhere. Observation number two, at least some of the stuff being made and used is real, right? Otherwise, we wouldn't have as many people ordering, reordering and getting good results.

[00:53:45] And observation number three, whenever the feds or whoever bust underground labs, it puts a temporary den in the supply chain. So look, this is, this is [00:54:00] whack a mole. This is the cup ferment playing Whac-A-Mole with steroids. Um. Whenever someone gets popped, there's still someone, someone else waiting to fill that void.

[00:54:13] Carl Lanore: [00:54:13] Yeah. Usually. Usually three people that we're working with that lab, and you know, we use the word underground lab gratuitously because these are usually made in someone's kitchen. Yeah. Let's be honest. You know, and the saving grace is the benzyl alcohol and the extreme heat for hours that they undergo that removes any pathogens or anything harmful from these, uh, these products that dr MALDI Pasqual did a little research on his own probably 1518 years ago, and found out that most worrisome part of underground labs is the stoppers being contaminated that go on after.

[00:54:51] After all this stuff is clean, you know, and like, as long as they're getting settled stoppers and they're handling it properly, you know, and again, even [00:55:00] then depends on the alcohol, you know, they're using somewhere around 3% Benzel it's going to kill just about anything that gets in there. Yeah.

[00:55:08] Coach Rob Regish: [00:55:08] And, um.

[00:55:09] And like you said, you know, thank God for that. Otherwise more guys would be getting more apps.

[00:55:14] Carl Lanore: [00:55:14] Yeah. We call them underground labs. If people think of these big, now don't get me wrong, there are big operations, usually outside the United States. They're all big operations and maybe some in the United States too.

[00:55:24] I don't want to take anything away from the USA as being competitive in this corrupt industry, but, but the reality is we call these places on the ground labs, and if you walked into one, you would hardly call it a lab.

[00:55:35] Coach Rob Regish: [00:55:35] Yeah. Kitchen chemistry. Um, okay. So, so having said all of that, the new wrinkles in the game are as follows.

[00:55:45] Um, in the past it was pretty clear. The raw powders, the raw materials or steroids were coming into the country after being manufactured in China, which is not unusual. China makes [00:56:00] all of our prescription drugs. China makes, you know, almost every Psalm and other things out there on the market. Um, so we got tons coming in from that country.

[00:56:12] As of January, 2020, some pretty tough new laws have been passed that are taking effect in China dictating chemical supply. Companies no longer make the stuff. Now, I would expect, as I just pointed out, that another country is going to step in to fill that void. Right? If it's just supply and demand, it probably won't be Mexico.

[00:56:40] Been there, done that. It probably won't be any of the European countries, you know? You know that's happened too. It's anyone's guess who's next. But one thing is for certain, right? So wherever there's a demand, okay, someone's going to step up with the supply. That's just how it is right now. A [00:57:00] cursory Google search reveals.

[00:57:02] Steroid busts and prosecutions, they're still happening. I'll be it. Nothing like it was, uh, in the 2004 to 2010 timeframe, they were real hot potato. Then president Bush was talking about him in his state of the union address and the government was all bent out of shape. About the issue because of what was going on in baseball, professional baseball.

[00:57:28] Now it seems though, looking at these buffs, most of the cases fall into two categories. One, companies actually selling supplements containing anabolics that may or may not be on the label and to bus of the so-called longevity clinics, most of which are in Florida. Selling gear on the side, or in rare cases they were, they were selling it right on the website.

[00:57:59] You [00:58:00] know, and believe you, Maeve, Florida's the place to do this. They have laws on the books or lack of them as the case may be, where it did not preclude convicted felons from running these websites or, or posing his doctors. So the problem for you in the end user then is, is really twofold. One, um, the way the laws have been rewritten, people ordering in the past, what would have been personal use amounts because of the way they're counting it now.

[00:58:37] It's enough for a distribution charge. Okay. Big difference in the sentencing guidelines. Um, and number two, although law enforcement has lately gone after under the big fish, you never truly know, right? Who's going to make an issue? What? I'm going to give you one good example because I took this right out of Rick [00:59:00] Collins, his book, legal muscle.

[00:59:02] And so don't think it doesn't happen. Let's say you live in a sleepy little town, right? Nothing's going on. And you regularly ordered gear through the mail. Your local rank and file detective has nothing, nothing else going on, and he wants to make it to a higher rank or otherwise get promoted. And so one day he gets an alert from customs that someone in town has ordered steroids and they have the proof after opening the package.

[00:59:32] And the detective then arranges for, let's say, a controlled delivery right. Um, which leads to a search warrant, which usually leads to other drugs being discovered in the home. And so now this cop who before had nothing going on. He's got a high profile bust on his resume, cause steroids. They're great headlines.

[00:59:56] They're going to show up in the hometown newspaper probably on the front [01:00:00] page when the bus, um, which that officer. We'll try to use to parlay into a promotion. And again, don't think that doesn't happen. You know, this is just one example. It's not farfetched. It's happened before. So whatever you do, whatever decision you make, stay informed, stay safe, and you can never know enough about the topic.

[01:00:29] I think to a. Play that game. If that's the game you want to be in, then you know, knowledge is power.

[01:00:37] Carl Lanore: [01:00:37] I'll, I will say this, there's plenty of, uh, if plenty of gear still out there. Is it, is it real? I will tell you this, that when it comes to injectables, uh, a lot of it is just testosterone excipient eight or an ant bait.

[01:00:52] If it's coming from Europe. It's coming from Europe. It's always an auntie. They don't use sick neonate there. That's a telltale sign of where your gear is coming [01:01:00] from. But if the more exotic forms now trend bologne you can't lie about it cause it's yellow. He tried trend. Bologne is always going to be yellow because the base powder is yellow.

[01:01:13] So you know, if it's real trend, if it's clear and a golden straw colored, you know, know if it's yellow.

[01:01:20] Coach Rob Regish: [01:01:20] Uh,

[01:01:21] Carl Lanore: [01:01:21] you know, like really yellow. It, it's real trend. But with that being said, uh, if you're ordering Masteron, you're probably getting testosterone. If you're ordering, um, I don't know. Primo Bolan, you're probably getting testosterone.

[01:01:37] I know women who have thought they will ordering less, uh, androgenic anabolics that these were female competitors and they were, they had. All the signs that they were getting testosterone. So, you know, it's, um, it's a crapshoot now. There are reliable just dealers out there that have been doing business literally for years and been uninterrupted by any [01:02:00] of this.

[01:02:01] Um, you know, Porter Cottrell doesn't use anything, uh, illegal anymore. He's retired. He stays in great shape and he doesn't need that crap. But he came on my show, uh, in 2005 or 2006. And talked about the anabolic steroids cycles that he used, uh, when he competed, uh, at the Olympia, and there were nothing compared to what guys are using today.

[01:02:26] Nothing, nothing, nothing like that. But he said, you know, if you're going to buy underground gear and you know, a source that's reliable, you don't buy a little bit every, he says, and he, I'll never forget it. He said it exactly like this. He goes, if you need. 80 bottles for the year, buy all 80 bottles because he said, and he said, and I had a drink on the, on the counter where I was doing the show.

[01:02:53] He said, if you look the other way, and I grabbed that drink and I take a sip and put it down and I don't get caught. He says, [01:03:00] but if I tried to do that to it's two or three times in a row, I increased my risk of getting caught. I said, yeah, you're right. So he said like, you know, you buy what you need and you don't do this stuff where every couple of weeks you're ordering more.

[01:03:12] Every couple of months, put your money together, make you buy, be done with it.

[01:03:18] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:18] Yeah. And I would be remissed not to wrap this up by saying, and this is personal opinion, it is ridiculous that we are locking people up. It was biggest crime is they want to put some muscle size on their arms or, you know, pounds on their bench breasts.

[01:03:37] Nobody on steroids is knocking over seven 11 for Robin banks. Right, right. To get their fix.

[01:03:44] Carl Lanore: [01:03:44] Well, I, let's not forget that you can go to a plastic surgeon and have breast implants and butt implants. Have your face completely changed. Uh, you can, as an athlete, you could go as a pitcher, you could go to a surgeon or orthopedic surgeon and have the ligaments in your arm [01:04:00] rerouted so that you pitch better.

[01:04:01] If you're a golfer, you could go have radial keratotomy to improve your eyesight. I mean, if anabolic steroids achieving than all those things that cheating to hell, let's go ahead and throw in birth control. So, you know. You want to have sex, but you don't want to have a baby birth control. That's not a life saving procedure.

[01:04:21] That's a, that's an economic decision. I just don't want to have a baby right now and. Like it's th that's why it's such, it's so stupid today, the way our government works, but it's easy to see what motivates them. It comes down to money. It comes down to industries that pay the VIG, that pay what they have to do, or if it's tax, like tobacco kills 1.5 million people a year.

[01:04:46] I wonder if we're ever going to say, wow, you know. Now that we're done with covert 19 we got to get rid of tobacco. No, they're not going to do that. Why? Because the government would lose literally billions of dollars if people stopped smoking themselves to death.

[01:04:59] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:59] Yup.

[01:05:00] [01:04:59] Carl Lanore: [01:04:59] It's, it's just so disingenuous and that's why critical thinkers, we become so frustrated because we keep thinking that there's some sort of logic behind what they do.

[01:05:11] There's no logic. It's all about money.

[01:05:15] Coach Rob Regish: [01:05:15] It's money and it's just misguided. You know? Look, the, the laws were originally written because of quote unquote cheating in sports. So

[01:05:25] I

[01:05:26] Carl Lanore: [01:05:26] don't,

[01:05:26] Coach Rob Regish: [01:05:26] you can't name one professional athlete. I can't, anyway, that's done. Any significant jail time for steroids. But there's a million, gotten out 1 million bucks.

[01:05:38] A lot of guys who have good jobs. Own their homes, have families who got pinched for this stuff and they're serving prison. Said,

[01:05:48] Carl Lanore: [01:05:48] well, think about that. Barry bonds didn't go to jail, right? Low Joe didn't go to jail. None of those people went to jail. When they tested positive for drugs, they just got a slap on the hand.

[01:06:00] [01:05:59] They didn't get their metal. They will move from first place to fifth place. They didn't go to jail, but you use some poor schmuck. You're a fireman and you're trying to stay in shape. You want to stay strong because you've got to live bodies and run out of burning buildings and you're like, you know, I'm going to add a little test to my, my life once a week, maybe 200 500 milligrams, and you get caught.

[01:06:19] You go to jail. That's what I'm saying. It's . If you look for logic in the way governments run things, you'll be frustrated for the rest of your life. You just got to understand, and you know what, I bought a URL called a power is in the base because I always thought I was going to start a website where people could get together.

[01:06:42] And pay, I don't know, $69 a year to belong and choose the things that they are interested in, and we could actually go out and buy lobbyists to lobby for testosterone and anabolic steroids C then we would get paid attention to. If we had a [01:07:00] lobbyist group that was sitting down with a politician and saying, you know, uh, these laws are unfair the way, and by the way, we've got, we've got $50,000 to give you this year to help you with your campaign.

[01:07:13] You'd see how fast the people will go. Well, you know, we need to change these here laws that these poor men are going to jail for. Just taking a little testosterone. I'm telling you. It. This is how it works. You can bitch about it. You can understand that it's an incorrect, you can understand that it's wrong or you can get up and do something and play the game the way they play the game.

[01:07:35] Coach Rob Regish: [01:07:35] Yeah. Buy it.

[01:07:37] Carl Lanore: [01:07:37] Let's do it. If you're, if any of you are interested in starting a lobbyist group to fight for the things that are important to us. Email me at on-air at super radio.net we'll find a lobbyist group. We'll figure out how to do it and we'll move forward. Maybe in a couple of years we'll actually have some cloud up on Capitol Hill.

[01:07:53] Coach Rob Regish: [01:07:53] It is very true that no amount of complaining that we do is going to help, you know, [01:08:00] keep our supplements legal. If you look at the people, if you look at the cases rather, where that's a, we have been successful in keeping it legal, let it Cray town. It takes a well oil political machine in Washington DC and in every state such that our voices are heard and we can actually get something done.

[01:08:26] You know me griping about it on SHR isn't really going to help. Sad, sad as it is to say, and as true as it is, it is what I just said. It's not gonna. It's not going to change things.

[01:08:39] Carl Lanore: [01:08:39] Uh, here, uh, Scott Wallace said, we have two comments that we're going to take a break and we'll come back with a blueprint.

[01:08:43] Tip of the day. He says, uh, if, if you have the money, you can get out of the consequences. That's not completely true. I've been doing some investigating journalism and it's, it's not completely true, but. In most cases, I'd say 90% of the time it's correct. The money is going [01:09:00] against compounding pharmacies and peptides.

[01:09:02] Right now, money equals a stored form of power. Absolutely true. Absolutely true. And then, um, Patrick Rogers says, well, farmers have some of the best lobbyists. They are protected by the government. So tobacco will probably never go away. You're absolutely right. And if not, just the, not just the farmers.

[01:09:22] Patrick, it's the, it's the tobacco industry. It's the companies that actually manufacture cigarettes. They have, I'm sure they put hundreds of millions of dollars into lobbying and buying because otherwise it doesn't make sense. Why. If our government is so concerned about human life, why they wouldn't go, you know, I think it's time to do away with tobacco.

[01:09:43] We lose 1.5 billion people a year to tobacco. That's a lot of people and yeah, I guess it is. And I know how to do it. You make tobacco, uh, you, you, you, you make it a controlled substance. People have to go in and get a prescription to buy cigarettes. You can even [01:10:00] make the cigarettes cheaper by doing this, believe it or not.

[01:10:03] But you just don't make them readily available at stores anymore. Where kids go, I think I'm gonna start smoking, I'm going to go. Yup. I mean, it's, it's easy to do. Yeah, this is why he did. This is why he says, this is why hemp is getting made. Legal. Farmers are getting on that bandwidth, and now you're right.

[01:10:22] Farmers are smart. They're smart, they have lobbyists. It's brilliant. It really is. It really is. I, let's take a quick commercial break and we'd be right back with the blueprint tip of the day. Then later in the show, I got a rant for you about the real heroes. Of this a pandemic. Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

[01:10:38] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:38] You are listening to this superhuman channel

[01:10:41] Carl Lanore: [01:10:41] where ripped and we're ready.

[01:10:45] Welcome back. Before we get onto the blueprint, tip of the Tate, uh, Scott Lala posted something that I find very fascinating. I want to put it up here. He says, uh, I remember on a, from a PETA  podcast where the guests [01:11:00] was talking about how. The tobacco industry accepted the ban on TV ads because the requirement was going to be for every tobacco ad, a counter ad had to be run right afterwards and in the models and focus groups, it was devastating towards sales.

[01:11:18] So they accepted the band because they knew that if they said no, we want to keep advertising, it was actually going to hurt them because of the new. Follow up ad, uh, that they will going to have to run saying, tobacco sucks. And so, you know, and, and the reality is it doesn't make sense for a government to support something that kills 1.5 million people a year.

[01:11:42] Especially. They don't just die, right. They, they stay, they get sick, and then health care has to take care of them for sometimes decades before they die. And you know it again, w you know, w our government, all [01:12:00] governments and the United States is no different. You know, all governments, they literally Teeter on being that movie.

[01:12:07] Idiocracy you know, the sensible things that they do. And then this thing that you go, wow, these people are either so stupid or so corrupt, and we know it's not this. They're not stupid. We know they're corrupt. It's the fact. But yeah, no, I, that's really fascinating. Uh, Scott, I, I did not know that, that, but that's, that makes perfect sense.

[01:12:28] Yeah. So the blueprint tip of the day, what is it, Rob?

[01:12:32] Coach Rob Regish: [01:12:32] The tip of the day is, um, why strength training trumps bodybuilding. This is obviously an opinion piece. Um, but I want you to listen to some of the reasons why I think this is so, so, so we're talking about two birds, right? But of a different feather. On the one hand, you have strength training on the other bodybuilding to the general public, and even many gym goers.

[01:13:00] [01:13:00] They make no distinction, right? Both involve going to the gym, both involve lifting weights and both involve growing muscle. But as we're about to see, uh, strength training is far more measurable, sustainable. And in my opinion, because of those two things more rewarding than bodybuilding ever could be.

[01:13:23] First, let's look at bodybuilding. So the goal is to build right one's muscles to the greatest degree possible while simultaneously lowering one's body fat, right? To show the muscle and it's most favorable or prominent light. Now, yes, there are other things such as symmetry, et cetera. That people give lip service to, but at the highest levels of the sport, it's all about who can grow the most muscle and presented with razor sharp definition, but because muscle growth [01:14:00] is such a slow process.

[01:14:02] It's difficult to measure. The best you can do is to, let's say, get a body comp analysis done at regular intervals, let's say every three months or so. That would probably be the most frequently you could measure actual pounds of muscle, right? Coming onto you and, and you know, that's obviously past the newbie stage, but still it's a glacier, like pace.

[01:14:30] Because of the process is slow. People are more apt to do things to speed it up, read anabolic steroids and other other stuff. The reality though is that most people aren't getting the body comp, their body count measurements done, and instead they rely on the mirror, um, or a scale to gauge progress, which is a bad, really bad move.

[01:14:57] Um, using either one of them. [01:15:00] Because if you have a bad day at the office or get into a fight with your significant other, or you blow your diet, well guess what? All of that is going to carry over into your self assessment of yourself in the mirror. And I think we can agree all of us, or at least most of us, we are our own harshest critics.

[01:15:26] Especially when looking into that mirror as for the scale. Yeah. It may register a gain of 10 pounds in those three months, but you know, we know what the story is there. Is it 10 pounds of muscle, 10 pounds of fat, or some sort of mix? You'll never know which one, you know, and therefore can't determine what, if anything, about your training and diet to change.

[01:15:52] Strength training. On the other hand, it's a totally different animal. If you asked me, because the goal is quite simple, [01:16:00] get stronger, that's it. Yet stronger every time you go to the gym. Now, that is a decidedly much faster process than growing. Pounds of muscle that will register on a scale, uh, because you can register a strength increase on a monthly, weekly, or even in some cases on a workout to workout basis.

[01:16:26] There is nothing subjective about it. You know, there's no judge or other person looking at you and saying, wow. They're big, but they're carrying a lot of body fat or you know, he's not quite as symmetrical as the next. No. There's none of that nonsense, right? You've either lifted more weight for more reps are both this week than you did last week.

[01:16:48] And unlike bodybuilding, um, some of some of my strongest workouts anyway, King directly after a bad day at the office. [01:17:00] A fight I got into, you know, with my significant other, et cetera, et cetera.

[01:17:05] Carl Lanore: [01:17:05] Why he's not, not Jennifer.

[01:17:08] Coach Rob Regish: [01:17:08] No, no. She's qualified.

[01:17:10] Carl Lanore: [01:17:10] When you're talking about a previous significant other,

[01:17:12] Coach Rob Regish: [01:17:12] right?

[01:17:13] The previous Jennifer ex-wife, Jim. Right. Um, but you know, you gotta ask yourself, why did, why did that happen? How is that? Well, it's because I took my anger to the gym. And I took it out on the weights, right? I didn't punch a wall, something that's going to destroy property and probably break my hand. I didn't swear at someone and, and, and run them down, you know, words that will damage long after physical wounds are done.

[01:17:44] I went to the gym and I took it out on the weights and I left that gym a stronger and a better person for sure. String in strength training as well. You're not as tempted to [01:18:00] use, let's call it steroids or other bodybuilding drugs, because as someone once said to me, um, he asked the question, are you getting stronger from week to week?

[01:18:12] Yup. Okay, then you're making progress. Yo w w why do you need those things? You're, you're registering progress every week that you go to the gym. It's tangible. I can see it. I can feel it. I can experience it. You know, that always stuck with me as long as, as well as this line. Um, guy said to me once, can you lift just one more pound in that exercise then than you do now?

[01:18:42] And, and you know, it goes through your mind. Of course I can. And it's true. Most people, if I put 300 pounds on the bar to bench, cannot tell the difference between 303 Oh one or two 99. It's just, you're not [01:19:00] that sensitive to it. Um, but if the answer to that question is yes, I can add one more pound, then you haven't maxed out your genetics.

[01:19:09] And only when you do, can we have the discussion about. Using these other substances, those two things. Not only did I never forget them, they were never far from my mind. I think about both of them. Every time I stepped foot in the gym, and especially if I miss something, I get discouraged. So, um, that's.

[01:19:35] Those are some, some other qualifiers about strength training and how I think and why I think they're better than bodybuilders. There's something else though, that you're noticing about strength training versus bodybuilding. Something that I'm reminded of every time that I go to the gym or I used to go to my gym.

[01:19:52] Okay. Up on the wall, right in front of the water cooler are probably pictures of two dozen [01:20:00] bodybuilders in their best condition. Every one of them. Garnered a trophy, a title, you know, or, or we're covered in the magazines, uh, at one time, most of them trained at our gym. And even, you know, some pros and, and I don't mean, you know, obscure pros back in the day.

[01:20:28] Their hay day wasn't all that long ago either. Maybe 10 to 15 years ago. Out of those two dozen men, I can tell you only two of them are still training. The rest each, each one of them has a story. Um, so, but the bottom line is they're no longer in the game. Some got injured and just never made it back from that injury.

[01:20:52] Some couldn't stand being on the drugs any longer. Their bodies just couldn't take. Um, and they found in likewise, [01:21:00] a lot of them found out that training without them is no fun. So. I'm either going to train with them or I'm not going to train it at all. Believe it or not. That's a frequent situation. One of them had died, which I guess you'd expect, right?

[01:21:15] I mean, 10 15 years ago, everyone, whether they have friends that lift or use drugs or not, that's going to be the case for, were busted for possession of anabolics to, for dealing. One became a chiropractor. Yeah, and so look, the point I'm trying to make is almost without exception, these men, for whatever reason, couldn't continue bodybuilding, at least at this very high level.

[01:21:45] So they dropped it altogether. Men of the same age group that practice strength training though almost to a person, they're still in the game. Yeah. Okay. I can think of at least three men at RGM that are [01:22:00] 70 or older that still trained heavy, and I mean heavy and many more that don't train quite as heavier, but heavier than most bodybuilders.

[01:22:10] I know in the gym guys that are a lot younger, a lot younger. Some of them have injuries. Yes, but they work around them. I talk to many of these men, and the reason I did is this. They hold the secrets to training for a lifetime. And those secrets, from what I've been able to tell, they boil down to three things.

[01:22:34] One, they never stop challenging themselves, right? One could no longer squat real heavy sweater over 600 pounds in his day. He can no longer do that. So what he does instead is he squats to 25 for max reps. and I got to tell you. After he passes the 2025 Mark. It's fun of watching people stop everything they're doing and watching this dude go and go [01:23:00] and go.

[01:23:00] Number two, um, these people never really went through the wild fluctuations in muscle mass. Notice I didn't say weight. Muscle mass. That usually goes hand in hand with sloppy drug use. Where guys put on, let's say 2030 or more pounds in a short time, and then they lose it just as fast as when they come off.

[01:23:26] And finally, the third reason, these men seem to understand that by getting stronger, they'll eventually get bigger. You know, why so many trainees try to prove otherwise is beyond me? Look, a size increase is almost always. Proceeded by a strength thing. Freeze lifting heavier weights is the trigger for a muscle to grow.

[01:23:53] Yes. You can argue time under tension. Yes, you can argue there are different ways of doing it, but [01:24:00] getting stronger is the trigger for getting bigger. If it wasn't, you could get weaker and get bigger. Go ahead. Go looking for that. You know, you're not going to find it. There's nobody that gets weaker, that gets bigger.

[01:24:17] It's always the opposite. So those are just a few things to ponder as you make your next moves. As we come out of this whole COBIT 19 thing, and trust me, age 25 becomes 50 faster than you can ever imagine. Right.

[01:24:37] Carl Lanore: [01:24:37] Could become 60 faster than you think. I'll be 56 in a couple of, what's this? This is a April.

[01:24:43] By may, March, April, may two to three months, I'll be, uh, I'll be 62.

[01:24:49] Coach Rob Regish: [01:24:49] Wow. And so, but the point, the point is getting there to that age in a healthy [01:25:00] physical state, yes. But also a healthy mental state is the key. Right. As is seeing progress regularly along that road and strength training, does that bodybuilding, not always.

[01:25:17] It just seems to me it's a lot more, let's call it a fragile endeavor than strength training would ever be. So

[01:25:28] Carl Lanore: [01:25:28] I lost a hundred pounds focusing on strength.

[01:25:32] Coach Rob Regish: [01:25:32] Ah, see, that's.

[01:25:34] Carl Lanore: [01:25:34] Because I wish it costs people. And the reason for that was if I was just focusing on body fat changes, I would have become disappointed in the first few months.

[01:25:43] I would thought, I'm never going to be able to lose any body fat, but I focused on getting stronger and every week, every week I had new goals that I was meeting. And it's those short term goals that lead to longterm goals. You [01:26:00] know, you, you, you, you, you can't just focus on leaving New York and getting to California.

[01:26:03] You got to think about driving through the state. You're going to be driving through and, and so by me looking at, Oh, you know, my squad got better and I got stronger in their squad. I got strong in a dead lift. I was be able to do cardio for longer. It was those, those small progressive changes that would the day to day, week to week goals that kept me going and I just happened to lose a hundred pounds of body fat.

[01:26:27] Coach Rob Regish: [01:26:27] And so after your first big drop of, I dunno, 2030 pounds, how long did it take for you to recognize the next noticeable decrease?

[01:26:38] Carl Lanore: [01:26:38] Because I figured that I got gotta tell you I thought about this just recently, cause I talked about it on an interview the other day. Yeah. You know, I couldn't tell you. I can't tell you how the body fat came off.

[01:26:50] All I could tell you is that I went from not squatting at all. To squatting 400 pounds very quickly. And I went from [01:27:00] not dead lifting. I remember Jeff Rui, you know, I said to Jeff, good friend of mine, he owned the gym that I trained at. It was a powerhouse gym.

[01:27:07] Coach Rob Regish: [01:27:07] Yeah.

[01:27:08] Carl Lanore: [01:27:08] Ex army ranger. Super duper. Great guy.

[01:27:11] Super strong. You know, uh. Very, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Dangerous human being. And I said to him, I said, Jeff, I don't know how, I don't know how to deadlift. And he set me up. He says, okay, sit back on your heels. He goes, now just stand up. And I remember, I remember that was it. I mean, my dead lift went the fastest.

[01:27:32] My deadlift went faster than my squat. I mean, I was pulling four Oh five very, very, very soon after I learned how to deadlift. Well, that's all I focused on. All I ever focused on was getting stronger. I just wanted to get stronger. And I, in fact, I didn't want to lose weight. I want to become bigger and more muscular.

[01:27:54] So that's all I focused on.

[01:27:57] Coach Rob Regish: [01:27:57] Yeah. And for people that, um, [01:28:00] that do use the scale or, or do just focus on losing weight, they're going to have periods of time where you hit a plateau and things are stagnant or. You Jojo, right. And you put some fat back. Ah. I think being in, being able to stay in the game is all about what, what do you do during those periods in between when the scale isn't moving or it's moving in the wrong direction?

[01:28:31] And the answer is exactly what you said. You get stronger every single week and whether people, believe it or not. The muscle that you building, ultimately building is going to burn more fat at rest 24 seven. Right, and my, so my question for you would be, how did you figure out that that was the correct path?

[01:28:56] Carl Lanore: [01:28:56] No, that isn't because I was interested in getting [01:29:00] stronger. That's all I was interested in. I wanted to be able to squat. You know, 500 pounds. I remember my earliest recollection was squatting three 15 I wanted to be able to squat three 15 you know, I wanted a dead lift, some sort of heavyweight. I never had the number in my head initially.

[01:29:16] You know, I, I just wanted to be super strong and super fit. That's all I cared about. So the things that I judged my progress on will, all those types of metrics. I didn't judge my progress on the scale. I didn't care about the scale. I never did. In fact. When you were just asking that question, I was thinking to myself, when, when did I notice, cause I remembered that I was three 30.

[01:29:40] I remember getting on the scale and the, in the, in the bathroom one day and seeing I was three 30, in fact, three 30 was how high the scale went, like, and then it started going into a zero again. And you know, it was creeping up towards the zero. And so I just remember, I remember the scale. It was, um. [01:30:00] It was a Dyna something scale.

[01:30:04] We bought it, which just big, big, ornate looking scale. And so I decided that I, I just wanted to get stronger. I didn't get on the scale regularly at all throughout the whole process.

[01:30:15] Coach Rob Regish: [01:30:15] I didn't, and, and so consider this, your, your simple goal was to get stronger. And 14 years later, you're running the premier bodybuilding pie

[01:30:28] Carl Lanore: [01:30:28] or pie.

[01:30:28] It's not a body, but this is fitness, health, and anti-aging. I mean, I'm not a bodybuilder at all. I mean, I don't, I'm not body. I give bodybuilders a lot of credit because their dedication to nutrition is profound. And that's really where the magic comes. But anyway, uh, we, we gotta we gotta move on. I gotta take a break.

[01:30:45] I gotta come back and talk about, um, my little bit of a rant today. I want to thank you so much for all the hard work you do and the questions you answer. I want to also thank the guests who ask questions live. I appreciate the involvement. It makes the show much richer, uh, with you than [01:31:00] without you.

[01:31:00] Scott, Lala, I, I'm haven't seen your name before. I hope you come back and listen to more

[01:31:05] Coach Rob Regish: [01:31:05] episodes with this coach.

[01:31:08] Carl Lanore: [01:31:08] Great stuff, brother.

[01:31:10] Coach Rob Regish: [01:31:10] Thank you.

[01:31:10] Carl Lanore: [01:31:10] Okay. And we're going to just take a real quick commercial break, and when we come back, you're going to listen to me explain who the real heroes of this pandemic or stay to

[01:31:22] Coach Rob Regish: [01:31:22] move over superheroes.

[01:31:23] This is this superhuman channel.

[01:31:30] Carl Lanore: [01:31:30] First of all, I gotta acknowledge Scott Lawler again, who appreciated the shout out. He says, I am mainly a podcast guy, happened to catch the live stream today. I'm mainly a peptide recovery focus guy. A BPC lets me treat my Ehlers Danlos syndrome and it's a damn miracle drug. TRT and occasional of helped me too.

[01:31:53] I've listened to almost every pep talk episode you've made and we've got another one coming up. [01:32:00] Next Friday on another peptide that may have some really, really

[01:32:04] Coach Rob Regish: [01:32:04] valuable, uh,

[01:32:07] Carl Lanore: [01:32:07] anti-aging effects. I'm not going to say anything else than that because I always want, I have to tell you, I have people who ripped me off all the time, and that's okay.

[01:32:14] You know. I mean, I've been doing this for 14 years and um, it's happened more than once in the past. Anytime I've said I'm going to be doing a show about this next week, somebody else jumped out and it was something obscure that I know. Uh, they didn't know about the bro science around peptides and everything annoys the hell out of me.

[01:32:33] Love your podcasts, a quality information source. Just a thank you from me. It's been great to. For educating and then diving into the relevant studies. Well, thank you for being here and thank you for your contribution to today's show. I appreciate that a lot. Then people don't have to listen to me drone on.

[01:32:52] If I'm reading your comments, you know, uh, I've been watching on TV, [01:33:00] uh, a lot. So first of all, we're, we're praising the. First responders, the doctors and nurses and all that, and I, this is not a disk to them. I don't want this to be taken as that. It's not, they do a hard job. It's a thankless position. They put themselves at great risk in what they do.

[01:33:22] However, at the same time, there are literally millions of people who just found themselves out of work 40 somewhat days ago. Millions, millions and millions. In fact, there are some analysts that are saying that the unemployment rate will hit close to 20% as this unfolds, as more States are reluctant to try to transition back to a normal life.

[01:33:57] Uh, people are literally, [01:34:00] uh. It  the door of, okay, Kay catastrophe, you know, losing your home. You know, I, I know there's people saying, well, landlords aren't fun, aren't kicking people out and mortgage companies one by one, they're, they're saying, Hey, well we'll push back your loan. You won't have to pay. But once we start back up again, you will have to start catching up.

[01:34:26] Those. Those things are not really where the pressure comes from. The pressure that a mother or father, single mother, single father family feels the pressure they feel is the day to day putting gas in the car, taking, you know, uh, putting food on the table on top of that. Now they're homeschooling and let's not forget that many of those businesses that are closed right now are going to fail.

[01:34:54] That it's not like one we get out of this, we just flip a switch and the restaurants will [01:35:00] open up and everything. No, it where we're going to be devastated for months. Even as we transitioned to normalcy, it's not just going to be flipped the switch and everybody goes back to normal. So that means that a lot of the people who've lost their jobs won't even have those jobs to go back to.

[01:35:20] Because those businesses are going to fail. They're going to be gone. I mean, big businesses are a threat to fail. There's some real big names that are like Neiman Marcus. They're, they're like, ah, we, we may not get out of this and I'm not going to discuss the ramifications on our economy. Cause as soon as you talk about that, people were like, Oh, well you care about it.

[01:35:41] The stock market, what people fail to realize. Is the stock market represents tens of millions of jobs. All they look at is the stock and the people who invest in stock and they think, Oh, you care about the stock market. They think that those companies are in a vacuum. No, the, those are [01:36:00] millions and millions and millions and millions of employees.

[01:36:02] If the stock market crashes, that means people lose jobs, not the wealthy lose it. The wealthy. We're not worried about the wealthy. We'll get through this. There'll be fine. It's the middle class that is going to be destroyed. And I think the real heroes today that we should be paying attention to are the people who have lost their jobs.

[01:36:27] And you know, they're not posting cool videos on Instagram or YouTube, you know, they're not posting pictures of them lined up like to having a meal like the last supper, like those nurses did on Facebook. And I dancing. They're not doing karaoke. You know? And again, cool for those people who are in that field, the first responders showing that, Hey, we're, we're going to have fun with this, but they still have jobs.

[01:36:58] Granted, maybe they don't want to [01:37:00] go to work. Maybe they're afraid to go to work. Right. But there are a lot of people right now that would go to work if they could go to work because. They're going to be devastated. And financial devastation can take a lifetime to correct. It's not like, well, yeah, you'll get a job, you'll catch up.

[01:37:17] No, it disrupts so many things. You lose a home, you lose your car. You know, you, you, you, you, you, children, you know, are, uh, destroyed by the lack of stability in a household that you can't pay your bills and buy food. So the real heroes of this devastation are the silent sufferers who you don't even know about, and they're probably proud people.

[01:37:47] They are going to come forth and complain. They're just ringing their hands. Go on van. I hope they open up this country again so we can start getting back to work. I just want to go to work. I just want, there's a lot of people who just want to go to [01:38:00] work. Yeah. Now I know you're going to say, Oh, Carl, all you care about is this way.

[01:38:04] No, let, let me, let me, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

[01:38:09] Coach Rob Regish: [01:38:09] So

[01:38:11] Carl Lanore: [01:38:11] there's a number thrown around and it's been thrown around for decades, and I could not find a single shred of evidence that it's accurate. And in fact, I think it's. It's low. I think it's a low ball number. Um, there's a number that's been thrown around that for every 1% that unemployment rises, it represents 40,000 deaths.

[01:38:38] Now I looked, I looked, I looked, I looked, I could not find anything other than people using that term over and over again, but I couldn't find any reference to where they came up with that term. And what I found out is like for the past 20 years, that term has been out there, and it's been used ubiquitously by numerous people, but no one has ever [01:39:00] referenced where it came from.

[01:39:00] But let's let that hang out there. So for every 1%. Uh, that unemployment rises, 40,000 deaths are represented. Now, those deaths could be from a variety of things. They could be from, okay, financial distress. They could be suicide. They could be, uh, from. A person who's Teeter tottering a with poor health. And now the stress of being jobless pushes them over the edge and their health just gets worse and worse and worse.

[01:39:39] And no, universal healthcare isn't the answer. That's not the answer. It's too late for those people. They go to the doctor, they're already dying. Uh. Yeah. Well did a study in may of 2002 and it says, rising unemployment causes higher [01:40:00] death rates. So we've known about this for a long time, actually close to 20 years.

[01:40:06] We know that employment, uh, is essential for people. They, they, they find their, their, uh, self worth in their jobs. It's not just money. Uh, but also the fact that we, we know that people who live. Uh, below the poverty line have a higher rate of death than people who don't. And, and everybody is fast to say, Oh, well, you know, poverty stricken people, they don't have access to this because they don't have the money.

[01:40:36] Uh, you know, they can't do this because they don't have the money. They can't buy good food because they don't have the money. But w w what did we forget that we just turned. Millions, tens of millions of people into poverty stricken people. Sure. They still have a house, but that's a burden at this point in time.

[01:40:53] If they can't make a mortgage payment,

[01:40:57] and the study goes on to [01:41:00] identify that during times of, uh, of, of, uh, high unemployment, suicide rates go up now. We are already hearing this in the media since coven 19 and the shutdown suicide rates have tripled in this short period of time, and. There's a, uh, an article on JAMA, the journal of the American medical association saying suicide mortality and Corona virus, a perfect storm.

[01:41:39] And they're talking about, and they listed the suicides are going up because of economic stress, social isolation, decreased access, access to community and religious support. We have a governor in Kentucky who is really a dimwit, I'm sorry. People wanted to go drive in [01:42:00] church. They were going to stay in church in their cars, parked in parking lots.

[01:42:06] And listen to the preacher talk on their radio because you know, they have these universal transmitters. You could set it to an FM channel and everybody's going to have their windows closed and they will go and worship and he for bad it. And he said, if you do it, we're going to take your license plate number down and everybody in your house has to quality for 14 days without coming out of your house.

[01:42:26] You know? Our attorney general barges, asked all us attorneys to file suit against governors doing that because he said, you know, we don't, the constitution doesn't go away in a time of pandemic. We still have a constitution and these people are being briefed of their constitution. But also when you have this, when people don't have jobs is barriers to receiving mental health treatment.

[01:42:53] Uh, they obviously have medical problems that they can't. Get the best care for, uh, [01:43:00] anxiety goes through the roof. Healthcare professionals and suicide rates go up. We just had two doctors in New York commit suicide just yesterday. Uh, seasonal variations. Uh, cha, especially in the season, like right now we have a lot of rain and it's cold, that edge to it, but physical distancing, not social distance, but physical distancing from people is hurting them.

[01:43:25] So this study goes on and on to talk about the. Ramifications on mortality and suicide in the current situation that we are living through. I know a lot of people who are depressed right now, thank God I'm not. I'm not, because the truth is I live such a boring life. The only thing that's changed in my life is I just don't go to the gym.

[01:43:48] Everything else I do, I come in here and I work and I'm very fortunate. However. I know a lot of people who are on the brink of crying all the time. Men and women, they don't know why. [01:44:00] Why? Because our civil liberties have been taken away from us. We're told to stay in the house. Plus we're all scared crapless that we're going to catch us and die,

[01:44:13] so I could not find a solid number that equates. Then how 1% rise in unemployment equals a certain number of, of deaths. And after reading this, uh, uh, paper in the JAMA, it sounds like it's a lot more than 40,000, but let's stick with this number since everybody's comfortable with this number and it seems low to me, but.

[01:44:45] Let's stick with this number because it's even quoted in movies, this number, right? In movie scripts. So let's stick with this number. Let's just do a little simple math. So before, before this whole thing happened, [01:45:00] we were at 3.5% or 2.5% unemployment. I don't remember, let's say 3.5% so let's just say that now.

[01:45:08] Estimates are that the unemployment rate will go anywhere from 15 to 21% when this is all said and done. So let's take the low number. Okay? So if we take 15 minus 3.5 that's 11.5% that the unemployment rate is already starting to reach. And if we time it times it by this number that everybody including Hollywood is comfortable with, that that equates to 40,000 deaths per each percent.

[01:45:40] That is 460,000 deaths. Almost a half a million people are going to die. Because we already know this. This isn't like covert 19 where we're learning as we go and we're trying to figure it out as we go. We already know that unemployment increases deaths from [01:46:00] all cause mortality, including suicide. We know it, and since everybody's comfortable with this 40,000 deaths per per percent of unemployment, this means that almost a half a million people are going to die in the upcoming months.

[01:46:16] Because of the way we reacted to this virus. And if you listen to yesterday show, I explained in my humble opinion very well that. We didn't have to do this in the whole country. We just had, we just had a block people from leaving New York, New Jersey, California, because those were really, and Washington state, because here's the way this virus got here, and spread is international travel brought it to the United States.

[01:46:50] But the a cities with dependence on large dependence on mass transit caused it to explode. People on the subways, [01:47:00] on the buses. So, so when you look at hubs with mass transit and international travel, these are the epicenters. So all we really had to do was shut them off. People would have never been able to leave New York, and now don't, don't get me wrong, we would have had some cases in other States where people traveled abroad, flew into JFK, and then flew to their home state of Texas or wherever.

[01:47:26] Yeah, those people would have brought it there. But because there's not a, uh, a dependence on mass transit, it wouldn't have spread the way it did in New York. So when we look at this, what we have done, I am saying right now, governors like Andy Beshear are going to have blood on their hands because of the number of deaths associated with the rate of increase in unemployment.

[01:47:56] And I predict that the deaths from [01:48:00] unemployment are going to be what they predicted covert 19 was going to be. So all of these governors out there trying to. Restrict people and and control people's lives. You are killing somebody right now. You are. There's some guy committing suicide right now as I'm doing this show that's a, he's sucking the barrel of a gun because of your actions.

[01:48:28] So don't think you're saving lives by these draconian methods of, of forcing people to stay home in States where you only have a few cases in deaths. We all, we ride 180 deaths here in Kentucky. There's parts of Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky that haven't had a single case, and yet Andy Bashir closed all the parks in those parts of Kentucky.

[01:48:52] He doesn't want people to go to the park where I have to actually get in the sunlight. They could actually be protected from covert 19 I'm telling [01:49:00] you. Don't discount the downstream effects of the rise in unemployment, that we're going to see it causing deaths in this country, and those deaths may actually top what we thought covert 19 was going to do to us.

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[01:49:35] Suicides in crime will continue going up until we opened the country. We just need people to wash their hands a bit more often and get healthy through exercise and diet and you're absolutely right. I did a little piece on that yesterday, but I'm going to do a separate show on that. Giorgio di Natale, who is a physician, I believe, maybe not, but I believe he's in Greece.

[01:49:57] Or Italy, I'm sorry. Suicide prevention. [01:50:00] Lifeline. Uh, dot. Org guests. That's where people should go if they are having suicidal thoughts. Absolutely, absolutely. Good, good way to close the show. All right. That's it for today. We have more tomorrow. Thank you for being here today. Uh, thank you for participating.

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[01:50:39] Stay strong. Stay alive.

[01:50:42] Coach Rob Regish: [01:50:42] There you go. [01:51:00]