[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] Welcome back to another episode of supreme-a radio. Today is May 1st, 2020 we are now 45 days into this lockdown, at least here in Louisville, Kentucky, and we're going to be talking about this stuff today with somebody who really has a great deal of knowledge, uh, about what's going on right now. Uh, that is dr Judy

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[00:01:04] If you use the coupon code SHR 10. You can save 10% off of all your This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. you know, many of us feel like something is wrong here. We see the media parroting organizations like the world health organization and even some of our government government officials. One day it's the mass don't work.

[00:01:30] The next day it's, you better be wearing a mask if you're out in public. I think that the most interesting change. Uh, was that the, even myself and social media pointed to Sweden, but people at the wealth world, health organization kept saying, you know, is going to be in for a surprise. They're going to have a lot of deaths.

[00:01:49] Now, just yesterday, the who is praising Sweden for the way they handled this pandemic? We have crushed our economy. And just a couple of days ago, I talked about [00:02:00] the fact that. There's a number out there that's even accepted by Hollywood that for every RA of 1% rise in unemployment, there represents 40,000 deaths.

[00:02:11] So based on that, we're looking at probably close to a half a million people dying as a result of joblessness in this country. Far more than we will see from this pandemic. Everybody I talk to says something's wrong. This, this, this, this can't be right. The way the government. And especially governors are handling this just can't be right.

[00:02:31] And many of us keep thinking that it's corruption. Well, my guest today, dr Judy, Mike of it's how you doing? Dr

[00:02:41] she, she spent a lot of time on the other side of this table and she may have some clues to why we all feel like there's more going on here than just protecting life. Uh, so first of all. To give my audience a feel for who you are and where you've been talking about your early [00:03:00] career and how you came up through the whole HIV pandemic and all that sort of stuff.

[00:03:05] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:03:05] Okay. Um, well, I'll start actually in, in 1976 when I entered university of Virginia and I was like chemistry major there, eh, with a specialization in biology. Um, and the reason was because back in 1976, your audience will realize I'm old. There is no such thing. There's no such thing as the field of biochemistry.

[00:03:29] So I have a pretty hard core degree in chemistry and, um, and, and just a lot of biology to try to make my own education of what biochemistry and in fields we didn't even know about. And why that's significant is because when I was getting ready to graduate from the university of Virginia in may of 1980.

[00:03:50] Um, the only job offers I was getting, um, was not to do biomedical research because, you know, uh, that kind of research really [00:04:00] wasn't done then. Um, didn't, not, not very well evolved. And it has to do exactly with what, what's happening today. Um, but at any rate, it's, uh. Um, so I was only getting jobs in oil companies.

[00:04:12] So on March 31st, 1980, um, which was the day before my 22nd birthday, um, the cover of time magazine was a water droplet through a hypodermic needle. And it said something like, the big, if it was interferon, was this the magic bullet for cancer. So I'm like, Oh man, that's what I want to do with the rest of my life.

[00:04:36] Cause I. Did not want, I was going to go to medical school. Um, but, um, I didn't have any money and didn't have any opportunities, so I thought, gee, if I could. Use my chemistry degree to make the first immune therapy. That's how we interfere on alpha. Our own bodies make it, it's a key antiviral, anti, you know, immune response.

[00:04:57] It's the big, it's, could we stop [00:05:00] virus associated cancers and diseases from with with this. Immune therapy. And so I'm happened to have a job opening at the national cancer Institute in Frederick, Maryland. Um, not too far from where I was living in Northern Virginia. So I applied and, and, and you know how things have changed.

[00:05:21] I applied on, on, on. After Memorial day weekend and I started June 10th so two weeks. I did the interview, got the job, went to work. One of my favorite jobs ever, because we were taking plants and making cancer therapy and we were developing this entire new field, which was immune therapy and vaccinations are immune therapy.

[00:05:44] So we, you know, we were making, we were trying to understand. Dan, the immune response to viruses. Why do viruses make some people sick and not others? And, and so I, in 1983, they opened a program called the biological response modifiers program, [00:06:00] which was translational research. So this was fun. We had doctors, um, you know, doctors, nurses, nurse practitioners, patients coming into, uh, what was up.

[00:06:11] Converted a grocery store, converted into our little medical Senator, the programs, hospital beds, and we were doing things like adoptive transfers, all these cool stuff. And I was a technician purifying these biologicals to try and stop, um. And what was then, um, had had been isolated as HIV. Um, Luke Mancini, I had called it lymphadnopothy virus when he first isolated it from people who were sick with this mysterious disease that was at the time called gay related immune deficiency because probably only gay men, IB drug users.

[00:06:51] Could get this disease, but they were getting all kinds of really strange infections and cancers that healthy, beautiful men like these [00:07:00] words, just 22 year olds or whatever, 30 year olds didn't get. So it, it, you know, he had isolated the virus along with doc, dr Rosetti, my boss. Um, we confirmed his isolation and we isolated HIV that, um, um, from saliva and blood.

[00:07:17] And, um, uh, you know, that that was my first experience with understanding. And then over the next say, decade or so, we were looking at how that virus caused illness. Why were all of the adaptive a part of the immune system, the T-cells, why were they all dying? Well, the, that virus had a receptor to something, you know, a lock and key.

[00:07:41] It could get into a certain kind of immune cell. The the T cell, which was critical for your adaptive immune response because Frank or Sadie had actually discovered what was then called, um, T cell growth factor. And he also discovered the first human cancer causing buyers, isolated it with [00:08:00] Bernie poise in 1980, um, before I started working for him three years later.

[00:08:05] And so for the next 35 years, I've worked with Frank Rossetti trying to understand, um, how, um, you know, viruses, primarily retroviruses RNA viruses, which is what the SARS virus is, how they cause AIDS acquired immune deficiencies and, and cancers and opportunities. The cancers. Um, I got a PhD in 1991 from George Washington university, and that was the, that really changed the paradigm of understanding HIV because, and what was true throughout the eighties was that T cell, the only cell that was known to have the, that receptor lock and key on it.

[00:08:50] Um, was only one in 10,000 of those were infected. And yet as a person progressed to develop the disease, um, [00:09:00] they were all dying. And so if their T-cells didn't die, they didn't get AIDS. But what it said more than that and, and all that. Therapy at the time for a decade was targeted at protecting the T cell from getting infected, and they simply weren't getting infected.

[00:09:17] So why were they dying? And so my PhD thesis, again, it changed the paradigm for how we treated, because it said there was another shooter in the immune system. And that was the monocyte macrophage. That's your frontline, um, immune cell. It's, it's called a Nate immunity. They, they surveil all the surfaces they serve.

[00:09:37] You know, they, they protect all the borders. And, and again, when we started targeting Matt doing early therapy very quickly, with very low dose to in, including that. Type one alpha interferon I'd made decades earlier that prevented disease spread that you, so now you could have HIV and not have AIDS. So it's [00:10:00] not a causative agent.

[00:10:01] Um, and this is what in in the SARS Corvid 19. Covert 19 means the DNA that means disease. So it's supposedly this one, SARS coronavirus causing disease. And that's not at all. Um, what the data, the clinical data say is happening because Corona viruses don't cause blood clots. Corona viruses don't get into the, across the blood brain barrier, Corona viruses, or is it.

[00:10:31] Simple, upper respiratory infection. Um, and, and you would treat with oxygen and, and, and again, the, the hydroxy chloric when is an anti-inflammatory. So Corona viruses cause disease by turning up the flame too high on your own immune system, much as HIV does much as another family of retroviruses disease causing, we discovered in 2009 and show, just like in [00:11:00] HIV.

[00:11:01] You know that, that there was a disease signature, not the same signature as HIV, but different E these viruses take out certain parts of your immune system. So it's really important when you understand the biology along with the biochemistry, you know, that, that what you really want to do is protect the immune system and, and, and a vaccine would.

[00:11:26] Turn on the flame, making you actually more in fact, in fact,

[00:11:31] Carl Lanore: [00:11:31] never theory. In fact, there are theories today, uh, well by into intelligent scientists that the adjuncts used in vaccines while they are trying to turn on the immune system to build immunity to what they're being vaccinated for. They turn on whole scale, uh, immune response.

[00:11:50] And there are a lot of scientists that are saying, this may be why we have autoimmune disorders today.

[00:11:56] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:11:56] Absolutely. Because they there were [00:12:00] ingesting the antigens in these vaccines in injection doesn't mimic infections because viruses see different, what we call mucosal surfaces. Either the skin or the, you know, or, or you can get an up gut infection, you know, or here it's a breathing, you know, you breathe or cough, upper respiratory infections, same thing as measles, you know, and things like that.

[00:12:26] So we know exposure routes are very different. So we have to have agiment because, um, the, the immune system. I was going to say that's nothing, and it's going to turn on a BB gun. A little type on very low dose interferon and what you've got when you inject it along with mercury aluminum, you know, they add judgments in a lot of what we call adventitious agents, other infections, other pieces of things.

[00:12:55] Cell debris, nieces pieces, you know, cow blood, you know, that, um, [00:13:00] um, uh, antibiotics. Um, polysorbate 80, which is disrupted. It's a detergent that disrupts the blood brain barrier. So in the manufacturer of the vaccine, we don't take out any of these. Other things. And we purposely add very high doses in many cases of aluminum and or mercury in some cases.

[00:13:20] And, and we're, we're just deceased. Instead of a BB gun, you're getting a Howitzer. And in some cases on Adam a bomb. If you've got other inflammatory diseases, like for instance, we never used to vaccinate somebody who was sick cause they were already inflamed. And so now we see in Kobe 19. Why? Why, if I can't.

[00:13:43] Go into a grocery store without a mask to buy a roll of toilet paper. Why in the world would you recommend going to get a live attenuated influenza vaccine with a healthy dose of mercury and, and, and to [00:14:00] give yourself enough for respiratory infection? And moreover, you're wearing a mask. So you're amplifying that infection in your own body.

[00:14:09] You're shedding it to other people cause the mass doesn't prevent transmission. Um, and, and actually you're making everybody sick from the flu vaccine. So the way to stop the spread of the Corona virus is don't give flu vaccines. And yet, that's what our government is telling us to do. And this is simple immunology, you know, that, that I learned over the 40 years.

[00:14:31] We never. Vaccinated in AIDS patients until 2011 and at that time, and, and in the nineties or so, um, the, the government, Deborah, Berks, and Robert Redfield were part of developing vaccines for HIV. Along of course, with Tony Bouchie and trillions of us dollars, we're, um, we're used for this purpose.

[00:14:57] Carl Lanore: [00:14:57] I'm sorry, go ahead.

[00:14:58] Finish.

[00:14:59] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:14:59] They [00:15:00] committed fraud. In those studies, they told the pub the susceptible population, they worked and they were tested as safe. And so here we drove the disease through the community and killed many people because of their fraud. And now we're being told, being told the same exact thing. No, you don't get a flu vaccine.

[00:15:20] Carl Lanore: [00:15:20] So you, you, uh, there, there is great efforts to try to discredit you. Uh, you know, just like, just like back in the day. So, so, but people may not know this, but it's a fact. The CIA created the term conspiracy theorists to silence the, this, the leakage of information about the MK ultra. Uh, uh, campaign using LSD to, uh, try to alter the minds of people because they were experimenting with, to see if they could brainwash people.

[00:15:49] But they created that term because as soon as you will label the conspiracy theories, then people didn't take your comments with any gravity. You have been. [00:16:00] Labeled anti-vaxxer. That's the new conspiracy theory term that as soon as someone calls you an anti-vaxxer, everybody thinks you're a nut. But the reality is that you, you have worked with these people.

[00:16:11] You worked with dr Fowchee. Did you? Not.

[00:16:14] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:16:14] Yeah, I mean, he funded our studies, you know, in, in the private Institute with the neural immune to the tune of $5 million. So yes, you don't work directly with him, but that's the agencies that funds this kind of research. I work with, um, you know, in the national cancer Institute, and.

[00:16:33] I still do to this day with dr Rossetti. So the national cancer Institute's projects get funded because viruses are associated with cancer, like the ones that doctor said he discovered. So as you're in these programs for all these years, you collaborate, you that that's working with. And so in fact. You know, they know all of this.

[00:16:54] And what they say about me is, Oh, we debunked that theory. You know, debunk is not [00:17:00] disproven. It's discredit and, and, and, and stop the funding so that you can't publish in the top tier journals and essentially destroy your reputation. It's attack the messenger and not the data. And then the data all goes away.

[00:17:18] Either they force you to throw it away, um, meaning you. Draw the paper, um, and, and all of the data and burn the samples, which is what they asked us to do in our, in our careers. And that's at the end to play golf to corruption. And in both of our books playing in plague of corruption, all of this is heavily referenced.

[00:17:38] With emails, with, with, with, um, you know, citations with publications that prove everywhere. And I'm saying, and that, and, and Tony pouchy and the government not even looking in any one of these people that commissioned fraud, when the blood, when the blood supply was contaminated. The head of the heart, lung blood Institute.

[00:17:57] Cmon Glen, she [00:18:00] participated in publishing a paper that told the world it's okay. We took care of that bad. Judy, Mike of we arrested her for nothing. Held her in jail, no warrant, no nothing fugitive from justice. We took care of her. She can't come back to NIH anymore. We took all of the funding away from her.

[00:18:19] And, and, and they publish all of this in these editorials. It's not in the journal, but it's in science. And it's the opinion papers. It's in the Washington post, the wall street journal, that Chicago Tribune, here's that bad person who's telling you all of this. And, and she did all of this for her own greater,

[00:18:38] Carl Lanore: [00:18:38] and that's my point.

[00:18:39] Okay, so now hold on a second. Because in life, we all know that you follow the money, right? So what have you gotten out of this. Well. What financial gains gains have you made from

[00:18:49] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:18:49] what you're doing. I lost my entire life's work. Um, more than $10 million, three houses, two boats, a few cars. [00:19:00] Um, I'm totally a hundred percent bankrupt and haven't worked.

[00:19:04] Um, in fact, I was looking forward to a stimulus back. It's cause I haven't made $2,000 a month in the last decade. I've gained access. Absolutely nothing. My, I lost half my family. My family's life was destroyed. Um, uh, you know, uh, I don't think I gained anything.

[00:19:21] Carl Lanore: [00:19:21] And so for

[00:19:23] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:19:23] anybody

[00:19:23] Carl Lanore: [00:19:23] out there listening, listening to this, you know, I know what it feels like to be wrongly accused of things.

[00:19:29] And you feel it really rots you from the inside out. But more importantly, you know, when people hear your story, they always think to themselves. Oh, there has to be something else to this, but all I have to do is point that what's being exposed right now about the FBI and what they have done to. Uh, several people who were involved with president Trump's campaign, fabricating stories, complete lies.

[00:19:54] You know what people need to hear, and this is not just about this book, it's called plague corruption. [00:20:00] Restoring faith in the promise of science. You can get it at Amazon. You can get it at, uh, Barnes and noble books. And like any place, find a book to soul. It's an important read. But, but more importantly.

[00:20:12] They can do these types of things to anybody. Once you get in the government sites, they can destroy your life. How are we any different than communist countries when they, when we let people be run over like this? So I want to mention one other thing. Whenever I talk about dr Fowchee and I say, you know, something's up.

[00:20:32] People say, Oh, but what, how, how is he benefiting from what he's doing? And I just want to point out one, one, one of the more recent, uh, discrepancies I've heard. So he completely downplayed hydroxy chloroquine, which by the way. I don't think personally, hydroxychloroquine is a good alternative

[00:20:51] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:20:51] because

[00:20:52] Carl Lanore: [00:20:52] early Chinese information showed that people who got antivirals didn't develop immunity.

[00:20:58] They came home, they got sick again. [00:21:00] So that's why I don't like antivirals. But in general, he said, don't trust hydroxy chloroquine, but as soon as this vaccine is available, he's going to unleash it on everybody without any proof that it works. Other than some small clinical trials, and we have millions of doctors, well, maybe not millions.

[00:21:15] I'm exaggerating. We've got thousands of doctors using hydroxy chloroquine successfully with some patients. What does he have to gain? Tell, tell me where, since it's a follow the money thing, what does he have to gain.

[00:21:28] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:21:28] Well, I mean, he has more to gain than then. Lots and lots of money as they hold patents in these vaccines and in other types of immune therapies, just as they did back in the eighties but more importantly, what he has to gain now is he doesn't get arrested.

[00:21:46] Then for treason, for crashing the economy, he's got to do everything he can to blow this thing up and not have people get well and realize the big lie. So [00:22:00] as soon as they, you know, destroy all our lives as we stay in our homes and wear these masks and get these flu vaccines because they've been lying to you, um, then everybody gets vaccinated and they've gained what they wanted to gain.

[00:22:14] Which was to cover up what is a 40 year since 1984 or even earlier plague of corruption. You know, we think of bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, that killed 21,000 librarians in 2014 Zika. These vaccines for these things. Um, they, you know, they're not only holding the patents, but they're, you know, awarding millions of dollars overseas.

[00:22:39] These while preventing Americans forget from getting treatment. It's not just like hydroxy chloroquine, but it's, they hold it. Since 2004 the patent for cannabis therapies and research goes out of this country, 10 billions of dollars of research money to other countries. When it's [00:23:00] illegal from scientists here using natural products, it stays the same.

[00:23:03] Schedule one drug. So we're, we're keeping people sick while big pharma who has no liability for these vaccines, none, and hasn't done a single safety study in 40 years. So what did they have to gain? I mean, he should be arrested. So they all should right now, FDA, CDC, Burt's, everybody you see on the TV.

[00:23:25] Yeah, they're running scare. This is high trees, and if you call all of it, if you call all of it, um, COBIT 19, you don't do any testing. They SARS. Coronavirus doesn't do what they're saying. It's doing even five G even blight. They even round up. Think about the, the lawsuits that would, that would, that the country couldn't afford it.

[00:23:48] The world couldn't afford it because we knew it was a contaminated blood supply. That's why they shot be dead. We know that vaccines are contaminated, so the sooner they put a bullet in, in [00:24:00] everyone. Which will be the vaccine. The vaccines are dangerous, have already killed, um, some of the participants in the so-called, you know, trial, no safety studies, no, no.

[00:24:12] Placebos. And this is Gardasil. This is, this is. 40 years of people they've killed and, and, and should be, you know, giving them free medical aid forever and, and millions of dollars in lawsuits. Just as the gentleman that got cancer in Bobby Kennedy's team, um, the legal team showed that Roundup causes cancer.

[00:24:35] Destroyed our environment. The five G we know, you know, we've lost our freedoms. Nobody asked us, nobody gave us informed consent for what this does to our blood. So it's, it's so much more than just this thing. This is the detonate switches we can see. Cause the people who were dying are the ones they've already injured and now they can just call it all [00:25:00] COBIT 19 and nobody has to pay anything.

[00:25:04] Carl Lanore: [00:25:04] Let's talk, let, let, let me inject something else. So it's been disclosed that a, and M, and this has been in the media, that the Anthony foul tree, uh, allocated millions of dollars to the wool Han lab that is now at the center of this, uh, horseshoe bat virus release. And th their work that they were doing there was specifically to make these viruses more virulent, more powerful, more deadly.

[00:25:31] And we used to do that in the United States, but I guess we stopped being able to, so they outsourced it to China. It sounds like what? What? What in heaven's name is the value? And I think I know now that what you just said, so the value of making a virus that is more deadly as you create a problem, then you create the solution.

[00:25:54] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:25:54] Well, correct. And, and more importantly, the solution won't be a vaccine. [00:26:00] And so you'll mandate, you know, everybody, even healthy people who are already immune to it. This is there. They're perpetrating the. They're perpetrating the fraud that is, um, Oh, asymptomatic carriers, no. A Perona viruses cleared.

[00:26:18] You're not a carrier. You're by definition, a healthy person with, and in many cases, with immunity, meaning a past infection. Meaning if you get a vaccine and then you're exposed the next time, this is what we're seeing. If they get the vaccine and then they get re-exposed, um, it amplifies the disease and can kill them right away.

[00:26:37] Whether it be, but it's specially in people who already have inflammatory diseases, the coal morbidities, those people are dying. And you're basically just burying your victims from four years of plagues of corruption and Tony vouchers also. Um. They're doing a clinical trial, supposedly that is the [00:27:00] NIH ID for this Reb REM datasphere.

[00:27:03] I can't say it, I'll

[00:27:04] Carl Lanore: [00:27:04] say

[00:27:06] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:27:06] yes. And so we have, you know, the hydroxy chloroquine, while it can be toxic, if used a long time ago, has 70 years of safety study, 70 years of studies, even one in 2004 against the and five published. Against SARS and and these Corona viruses. So they know the data are out there, and yet they're pushing this drug.

[00:27:29] They're manipulating the clinical trials is as was detailed on Dell big tree show called the high wire, the high wire.com he detailed the fraud in the clinical trial. So the public on every level is being lied to and has been mostly. So bar research in the last 40 years, and this was the horror I found out with, with the events of what happened to me and how the journal science and the journal nature are a little more than, [00:28:00] um, propaganda masquerading is.

[00:28:03] Science and the public, you know, we're publishing science in, in Washington post, you know, and, and what are the people supposed to believe that these journals are supposed to be not censored? They're supposed to be peer reviewed and, and, and, and data. But the editorials don't say what the papers are saying.

[00:28:24] And if the P, if the investigator like me continues to say, no, you won't miss represent those data, you won't lie with them. Statistics. You won't do this. Then the big pharma companies where they have these horribly expensive drugs, like all the cancer drugs up, Debo, Keytruda, a chance to live longer. Do you know what the clinical trial says that live longer is for the cost?

[00:28:49] Of about 50 to a hundred thousand dollars one week and the hell they put these patients through with chemotherapy. So it's our [00:29:00] entire medical system. It's our entire fraudulent. And in this is what your listeners can see as we go through the TV. You know who's paying for the CBS evening news, sponsored by Merck, sponsored by Sanofi worldwide, you know, sponsored by Johnson and Johnson.

[00:29:19] And you said it here, that one commercial that says, we've got you cradle to grave. Of course you do. And you enhance the fact that we get to that grave a lot sooner so we don't get our social security as we celebrated aging and disease development. Yeah,

[00:29:35] Carl Lanore: [00:29:35] it's actually, I actually did a show. About a decade ago, and the name of the show was, uh, it's in the government's best interest that you die on time.

[00:29:44] And I, and it really is, the book is, the book is called plague of corruption, restoring faith in the promise of science. You can get it wherever books are sold. I'm on Amazon. It looks like it's temporarily out of stock there, but you can get it at books a million. You can get a Barnes [00:30:00] and noble. You get it at local bookstores.

[00:30:02] It's really worth, because you know why people may not want to read this because. That it's easier to be B a S uh, ignorant of the facts. But you gotta read this because our government is not this altruistic, pristine organization that is just here to protect human life. If they were. They would be going after tobacco, which takes 1.5 million lives a year, but the government makes money on tobacco and the, and that means that the bottom line is this.

[00:30:32] You can kill people in the United States as long as the government gets their money out of it. Stay tuned. We'll be right back. Move over superheroes.

[00:30:41] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:30:41] This

[00:30:41] Carl Lanore: [00:30:41] is the superhuman chapel.

[00:30:46] Welcome back.

[00:30:51] We're on with dr Judy. Micah VITs. We're talking about a book plague of corruption, which the timing couldn't be better for this book to come out. So [00:31:00] I have lots of, yeah, I know that I'm going to be interrupted here because we have lots of questions from listeners. I'm going to try to work here. Okay. The first one was, I found it fascinating that you did not wear a mask when you were in the HIV lab.

[00:31:15] Is that true?

[00:31:16] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:31:16] That's true. So

[00:31:17] Carl Lanore: [00:31:17] what, what value do mask PR provide

[00:31:20] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:31:20] for us then. Well in, in, in those days, um, HIV was only transmitted by blood and body fluids, and we thought retroviruses could only be transmitted, um, from blood and body fluids. So we didn't wear a mask. We worked in a filtered fume hood. Um, and so we wore double gloves and, and things like that.

[00:31:43] In the case of Corona viruses. And now we know the mouse. Gamma cancer is a mouse cancer causing viruses. Retroviruses, we discovered, and the Ebola of 2000 and. Um, and 14, that that killed the 21,000 [00:32:00] Liberians. All of those are aerosolized. That means they get into water droplets in fluid as you sneeze in costs.

[00:32:09] So yes, ma'am. Or are of value if you're coughing contagious cancer viruses on you. And in fact, I got infected and so did many, many lab workers in 2010 and 11 and that's when we realized this, Oh my God, we've got a family of retroviruses that now you can catch like mycoplasma or the flu. So in the case of the mask, if you're.

[00:32:40] Coughing. Yeah, you can prevent somebody else from getting sick, but you're going to amplify you getting sick if you get a flu vaccine. And every year people who get flu vaccines don't wear mask and they're shedding live virus on people. And so it's actually [00:33:00] those people that should have been wearing the mask whenever you get a vaccine as yours.

[00:33:05] Spreading that virus around to people close to you. You are infectious at that point. We have about 10 days after the live attenuated flu vaccine, but they're spreading these upper respiratory, uh, epidemic. So yes, the mass have value if you are sick and coughing, but if you're healthy by definition, you are not coughing and you can't possibly spread, um, this virus or any other virus, they don't live in dry air.

[00:33:35] Aerosolization is a droplet. And there's a beautiful pic picture that NPR radio put out around December 1st of 2014 saying, here's a little riddle for you. Why is everybody all gowned up and wearing masks if Ebola is not transmitted. By aerosolization. And so what our centers for disease control did was they [00:34:00] redefined contagious.

[00:34:01] So they showed the water droplets being really tiny. If you have measles and you cough, they go six feet. And if you only have, if you have Ebola, you cough and they're bigger droplets. And, um, and they'll, they go three feet. And so I'm thinking to myself, and, and all of America should be thinking about this, this is what our centers for disease control does.

[00:34:25] They just moved, the goalpost changed the definition of, and Andy, could anything be more ridiculous? Oh, so Ebola virus happens to know how big the water droplets it can live in his, well, it's the same.

[00:34:39] Carl Lanore: [00:34:39] I was just gonna say, I was just going to say that the Arizona. The aerosolization has more to do with the velocity in which you sneeze or cough, then the, then the virus doesn't dictate that.

[00:34:51] That's, that's just pure nonsense. It's amazing. Well, people, people have a lot, people have lost their ability to be [00:35:00] critical thinkers in this world today. So Aiden, Aiden Ray has a very technical question. I said a description on what. X M R V slash MLV fees are, and how these relate to Corona and since covert 19 uses the HIV GP dash one 41 protein.

[00:35:19] What does the doctor feel? The implications of that are.

[00:35:25] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:35:25] Okay. So X MRV means Xena, Tropic, cause it's any human, not a mouse. Murine leukemia mouse, leukemia, mouse cancer causing retrovirus. So it's a human retrovirus family. And there are lots of strains that we isolated in in 2009 and published in the journal science.

[00:35:47] Prove them to be infectious and transmittable miscible and, and later prove that they, um, got into humans via a contaminated blood supply. Um, and [00:36:00] vaccines which you, which you grow these things in. And, and you grow polio vaccine, you grow flu virus, flu vaccine in chicken eggs, you will grow the polio virus in Viro Aesics cells.

[00:36:16] You grow, um, M M R N N animal cells, the flu vaccine that was used in Italy, in maiden Darby kidney cells, which is a dog cell line. So what, what is the connection? Oh, well, the Corona virus is grown in Bureau E. Six cell lines and contains SIV that the relative, the parent of HIV. So it can pick up the GP one 20 or one one 61 2041 and that the cap that has like a mushroom is the one 20 and the thing that pokes it into the cell, the trans membrane is 41 so you see, we knew this over the last.

[00:37:00] [00:37:00] You know, 30 or 40 years, and especially since the mid nineties when we were, we were looking for cell lines to grow viruses in. It doesn't come from a bat to a human directly. You must have an intermediate host, and it's usually a small mammal or a monkey or a, well, I don't know what a it is. I think it's close to a monkey.

[00:37:21] But here's your closest relative. You know, to humans. And, and it's that monkey kidney cell line, which we've used for the polio vaccine. And then in the early, in the thirties we pass the polio enterovirus through mouse sprains. And, and so here you are, you're, you know, you're injecting the cells into kids.

[00:37:44] So the Corona virus preparations and these flu shots have not only. Other Corona viruses, but other retroviruses, including HIV and all, and certainly, um, uh, XM RVs, [00:38:00] the mouse that viruses, because all of those, there are also monkey viruses that are of the same family. And that's a little too technical. But the.

[00:38:09] Fact is, this is a monkey cell line. Semi 40 virus. Oh, what is that associated with lung cancer or mesothelioma? What are we talking about with Corona virus? Oh, so now all of a sudden you have a nothing Corona virus that's grown in the Viro Aesics. That monkey cell line containing both gamma contagious mouse.

[00:38:31] And, and monkey gamma retroviruses. Again, that's the first family of contagious viruses. You've got another contagious virus, the flu virus, and, and, and it's got pieces, I mean, the Corona virus, and it's got pieces and parts of 'em. Of HIV and it's allowing it to have a broader cell range. It doesn't just infect the epithelial cells of your nose and throat.

[00:38:56] Now it can infect white blood cells, [00:39:00] macrophages, those, that innate immune response. I talked about my PhD thesis and T cells. Oh, you get the, both the adaptive and the innate immune response and the worst thing of all is. Every cell in the body has the lock and key for XM RVs. They're phosphate transporters, they're amino acid transporters, their channels, their channels that go right into cells and April back, various key, key, key immune function channel receptors.

[00:39:32] So here you are, you've got gum in everything. And um, and the people that need the. 50 million Americans. Our study showed us that were not necessarily healthy, asymptomatic carriers that were actually sick and whole families with cancers, uh, and and neuro immune diseases, diseases that were considered psychosomatic.

[00:39:56] You made it up. There's nothing wrong with your notes. They're, [00:40:00] they're retroviruses, and now you have that. And who are you exploding this Corona on who dies first. We call everything co, COBIT 19 and that 50 million Americans that people would see OPD, the people that the lab workers, the first responders, the military people like me who are caring.

[00:40:20] You can hear my cough. Right? And I've got the XM RVs. It's chapter eight of our book. Um, you know, the July 22nd, 2019 invitation only meeting. Oh, so the highest level of the governments have known this since 2009. There's an issue. Vexatious cancer. Our paper passed every kind of review. The most stringent review wasn't published until four months till October 8th after that.

[00:40:49] Nothing wrong with it ever, except for the sequence of the virus. It was realized the synthetic clone was never the virus, and in fact, there were dozens, if not. [00:41:00] Unreads of strains of these viruses associated with everything from, Oh, multiple myeloma, breast cancer, ovarian cancer. Well, look, look,

[00:41:09] Carl Lanore: [00:41:09] HIV is associated with, with, what is it called?

[00:41:12] Kaposi sarcoma. That's a rare, that's a rare type of cancer. People don't get that.

[00:41:19] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:41:19] Correct. Only the Southern tip of Italy. And what we discovered was it was associated with a new herpes virus called HHB eight at the time, or captaincy sarcoma, herpes virus. So we all know in chronic fatigue syndrome and early AIDS, it was always.

[00:41:35] The microplasma. Oh, it's the HIV. Oh, it's the, um, Oh, Oh. It's the HHB six. And other things with chronic fatigue syndrome, how they're tracking together, and different people get different viruses because they're exposed to different things. Um, you know, depending on where you live. So here you can see it's all of it and it's an immune disorder.

[00:41:57] Instruction. It's multisystem [00:42:00] disease. We now call it chronic Lyme disease or multi-system atrophy. You know, we know those are, those are associated with mass cell activation disorders, chemicals. I have to

[00:42:12] Carl Lanore: [00:42:12] believe that diseases like lupus and or various autoimmune diseases probably fall into this category as well.

[00:42:18] The book is called plague of corruption. I want to take a last commercial break. When we come back, I want you to educate me in the audience about herd immunity. I think I have. Uh, ideas. Uh, but I want, I want you to straighten this out. The book is called plague of corruption, restoring faith in the promise of science.

[00:42:35] And the foreword is written by Robert F. Kennedy, jr, and it's stellar. It's Stella. This book is getting lots of positive reviews from people in science, and. You have to ask yourself, you know what? We've come, we've become a nation of, well, my science is, is more true than your science. Science isn't trusted anymore because unfortunately you can [00:43:00] find studies that are on both sides of a topic and equally well-written.

[00:43:05] So where does the truth lie? That is where critical thinking comes in. Something I've talked about for 14 years. When what you know to be true, when, when you, when, what, what, what you suspect to be true is contrary to the science that's being promoted. Always go with what you know and what you believe to be true.

[00:43:26] Stay tuned. We'll Brett

[00:43:27] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:43:27] the superhuman

[00:43:28] Carl Lanore: [00:43:28] channel.

[00:43:33] Welcome back. We're talking with dr Judy, Mike of it, so, so dr Mike of it's, here's, here's what I think, I think I know, and please set me straight. The longer we stay huddled up. In our homes, the longer it's going to take for this virus to work through our population to mutate and for us to also develop immunity to it.

[00:43:57] So we're really not protecting anybody. [00:44:00] We're actually just, we're just, we're just expanding the period of time that it's going to do its job.

[00:44:07] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:44:07] That's correct. So we would develop a, we'd develop what is called and known as herd immunity, meaning people who aren't sick from the virus. And, and it's clear in, in many places of this country and around the world, like Sweden is the one that just came up today, uh, where.

[00:44:28] Where you keep the people most vulnerable home, which we always do during flu season. My husband has CLPD, so I protect him from any upper respiratory infection. And um, and yet those who are immune go outside, go to life. And, and actually then they don't spread disease. They are immune. They have antibodies that, which is the goal of any vaccine.

[00:44:55] Um, but what we see from. Um, 40, 50 [00:45:00] years, and I just, you know, start with, um, that's what's clear in the, um, uh, in the brilliant forward by RFK jr. He walks back and he looks at the, literally the plague of corruption surrounding the vaccine programs, how we know the failure of the chicken pox, the various.

[00:45:20] So we know the failure. You know, this is why we have shingles younger and younger, because we're not preventing, we're not getting natural loses measles, these outbreaks of measles. It's the vaccinated who aren't producing antibodies. And actually are the ones that are carrying the disease. So each year people get the flu vaccines.

[00:45:43] So then we're hurting ourselves horribly. Every evidence is that this virus came through this country a lot earlier than we were told probably even last year. Fall. And in fact, we are already at a place where we have natural herd immunity, and all we're doing [00:46:00] is preventing that in the end from being developed in the sickest communities, all the children should go back to school now.

[00:46:08] They're not getting sick from this virus at all. And yet the number of deaths, the damage, you know? So can you imagine. You know, having a child at home when he should be at school and who's going to take care of them? All the grandparents. So who are you putting at risk? Oh, the very people you don't want to put at risk.

[00:46:30] And so, and this is the problem, especially if the kids are vaccinated kids and they're coughing, you know, so, so this would be the problem for the grandparent being. Opposed to almost anything. So yes, the, the lockdowns and it's been shown in, in Sweden and even in California here, it's clear that the numbers, when they do the right testing, the immunity, IgG is a past infection and it's in a memory immunity.

[00:46:59] If you [00:47:00] see that pathogen again, you will make an immune risk. Fonts. You may get a little sick, um, or, or any, or you won't get as sick as you got the last time and you'll simply clear it so you're not, I don't spread a measles epidemic because I'm immune when I'm exposed the second time. I make the antibodies and I clear it is clear from in measles, we can't even, one of the FDA qualifications for a, for a therapeutic known as intravenous immunoglobulin, I.

[00:47:33] B. I. G. You're putting the antibodies into people who have. Common variable and other kinds of immune deficiencies. That is they can't make antibodies. So that that requirement for that product is that they have measles antibodies of certain titers. And what we know is that the middle generation, the last.

[00:47:56] 40 or 50 years that have gotten that vaccine are [00:48:00] not immune and they don't respond. Their cells are totally a nergis. They make no antibody at all, and they are spreading the disease. So we're at, we're at a crisis because the vaccine, you've seen program, it is said to, you know, produce herd immunity by.

[00:48:19] I'm developing those immune responses and the, the, all the data support that the opposite is true. And in fact, no vaccine has never did ever developed a herd immunity. And what we've got is they're spreading diseases as we've discussed. And, um, again, they're, they're preventing, we will get a natural herd immunity.

[00:48:42] So we keep our immune systems drawn to everything. Just as you know, I, the last vaccine I had was smallpox. Um, and, and, um. And, and we don't use that vaccine cause it kills 7% of the people you give it to and drive the disease. So I [00:49:00] mean, and, and so this is the thing with polio. If these diseases, if the chances that you'll be infected, um, are, are like being struck by lightning, which is the case with stars cold too, that you, that you come in contact with another human.

[00:49:17] Coughing and sick from this virus is like getting struck by lightning on a golf course. That's your chance that you know. No, that's not how immunology there. The spread through what we call nosocomial meaning through hospitals, through lab workers, and not from a seafood market. From one back.

[00:49:36] Carl Lanore: [00:49:36] The front, the front.

[00:49:37] That's an interesting point. We should be seeing a lot more of the first responders getting this virus, but we don't. And and granted people are going to say, well, it's because to wear a mask or something like that, but come on, you can't close your eyes. If, if a water droplet hits your eye, it's absorbed the same way.

[00:49:55] They are not getting sick. We should see hundreds of thousands of them getting sick.

[00:50:00] [00:50:00] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:50:00] That's correct. And actually who we see getting sick. Are the nurses that are getting the flu vaccine and are wearing the mask. So they're saying they're dying of Cobra 19 and they are not. I mean, and if you consider Corona virus infectious disease or Corona virus disease is the definition of COBIT 19 no influenza along with a little Corona cause there are Corona viruses in every flu shot.

[00:50:26] All animals have Corona viruses. So you're ramping up across talk immune pathways that you, as we discussed earlier, that that's how you would be preventing. So that's why it's not a conspiracy. It's a reality. Everything we've been told by our public officials is keeping us from preventing the spread of this disease and keeping the susceptible from dying.

[00:50:52] No, they will die.

[00:50:53] Carl Lanore: [00:50:53] What about the mutation of this virus? So w one, the whole herd immunity process, everybody kind of gets exposed to it. [00:51:00] Uh, people develop immunity to it, but is it possible for this to mutate into a more aggressive virus, or do they usually mutate to less aggressive viruses, or is there even a usually

[00:51:14] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:51:14] Well in, in, um, these are highly stable viruses. They're, they're replication. They're polymerase is not as, um, the, the infidelity. It's, it doesn't make as many mistakes is retroviral reverse transcriptase is. So they're relatively. Stable, uh, you know, across species and, and so that this would new take quickly is just simply not born out from 50 years of work in Corona viruses.

[00:51:44] And that's another thing, the natural evolution. Think about this closest related virus is SARS. So severe, acute respiratory syndrome, I guess, which was 2000 in China in the year, 2000 in, in [00:52:00] China, or Japan. Um, and, um, it's taken, um, normally, and Merz was 2009, the middle East respiratory syncytial virus. So it's taken, um, a very short time of evolution to get the SARS cold too.

[00:52:19] And that's because it was. Celebrated evolution in the lab. Normally these things don't mutate more pathogenic because they have to go directly from the bat into this. The next animal species then jump into humans. It's not straight through. And so what it does is it spreads through, you know, the nurses and doctors and patients in hospitals because the patients are already sick.

[00:52:46] The patients are immune compromised. Flamed if you get a vaccine, by definition, if you don't turn off the immune system, then the vaccine does it work. And so if you don't [00:53:00] teach the immune system, so the epitopes are usually. The epitopes are usually quite conserved, and you would, you would have some cross-reactivity, which is why, um, we know from the science point of view, if you've ever had the flu or you've ever had the flu shot, you're as immune as you're going to get these, these vaccines don't prevent transmission.

[00:53:25] They just want to prevent you from dying. So why would you get a flu shot every year? All it's doing is driving pathogenesis, upper respiratory infection, tissue damage. In fact, I would show them,

[00:53:37] Carl Lanore: [00:53:37] in fact, that was shown in a study a few years ago. They did a study of elderly people and elderly people who, who got the flu seasonal flu vaccine were more likely to develop upper respiratory infections and pneumonia.

[00:53:51] That was, that study was just done a few years ago, and the reality is the CDC has the ability. To, [00:54:00] uh, inquire and find out how many people ever. So here's the funny disconnect. They tell us, they tell us how many flu cases there are every year, and they tell us how many people die from the flu and how many are hospitalized.

[00:54:16] What they never tell us is how many of those people who got the flu, how many of those people who hospitalized for the flu and how many people that died from the flu also got the flu vaccine. They have that data. If you know, your doctor knows if he gave you a vaccine, your doctor knows if you got. The flu.

[00:54:34] Your doctor reports that to the CDC, but the disconnect is the one piece of information they leave out that would make more people go, why the hell am I getting this vaccine? 80% of the people who got the flu also got the vaccine. What good is it? They don't do that.

[00:54:50] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:54:50] That's correct. And they don't every year, this is another disconnect.

[00:54:55] They don't every year, and they call it SLU. So let's just call this [00:55:00] year's flu for sake of argument. So what happened to influenza. Every year our T V says, Oh, all these people are dying of F, L, U and yet 80, let's just say 80,000 people died last year, according to the CDC of SLU. Um, but Oh, by the way, the flu vaccine doesn't work this year.

[00:55:20] It's only 90% effective, meaning it's the wrong strain. And we only, we only. Sequence or detected evidence of PCR, evidence of influenza in 800 of those deaths. What happened to the other 79,000 people? Was it Corona virus last year? Nobody ever looked and all the evidence said it was at least some of the deaths last year could have been attributed by the nature of the cough and the clinical symptoms, and even the people who now have things.

[00:55:51] Strong memory antibody recall getting it last October, well before we were told was the first case that seafood [00:56:00] markets, you see nothing they are saying makes any sense and all of it is intended to drive. And, and they literally crashed our entire world economy and killed millions. I mean. These people not going to school, children, not getting fed, families that are destitute and, and you know, we're at

[00:56:20] Carl Lanore: [00:56:20] $1,200 check to save their lives.

[00:56:22] Exactly. Exactly correct. So in October of last year, Elisa and I went on a cruise. The cruise ship was a canard cruise line. It came from Europe. It had been on this whirlwind cruise and we picked it up in Quebec. We went North to Nova Scotia and then we came back down to, uh, to New York. We were on a hop on hop off bus tour.

[00:56:47] The woman next to me was hacking. She had a dry hacking cough. She kept covering her mouth, the poor thing, but I was getting the muzzle blast. I said to Alyssa, I can feel her breath hitting me in the [00:57:00] face. We rang the bell. We got off the next stop. Next thing I know about five days later, I told Lisa, I feel like I got a sore throat.

[00:57:09] I bet it was that woman. And by the time I docked in New York, I was running a high grade fever. When I got back to Kentucky, I, my my physician, I told them, I says, I think I got pneumonia. I can't breathe. My chest feels heavy. I still did. I worked every day. So he prescribed me a Z pack just by chance. And right.

[00:57:28] Cause he figured, well, maybe it's bacterial since you know, you were so close to her and she coughed in your face and he gave me a Z-pack in about four or five days later, I felt so much better. But Elisa, on the other hand, got it from me. She didn't take as iPack. She was sick for a month. I've never seen her this sick before in my life.

[00:57:44] I am convinced. I actually, we just ordered today the antibody test. I'm convinced that I had this back in October.

[00:57:51] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [00:57:51] Correct. And so many stories, doctors around the world, patients around the world, people, that's what the good news about [00:58:00] everybody sitting at home is. We have nothing better to do than listen to the radio, turn off the fake news, which is lying to us, which is becoming very clear or, or get on YouTube and, and doctors are coming out saying, yeah, this doesn't look like that.

[00:58:15] This isn't clinically that. Yeah, this went through there even, I mean. Even even, um, Bobby Kennedy jr said, yeah, my wife, we all got it when we were skiing somewhere last year. I remember where he said, and, um, yeah, we all got that my yacht club here. And yeah, we all got that nurses, there's a couple of nurses in our yacht club here, our sailing gloves.

[00:58:35] They got sick by my West coast mom, an 87 year old lady. She got sick and they said, Oh, it's just the flu. She get the flu vaccine last year. And she said, no, a test me. And it wasn't influencer. Right? So what was it? Um, you know, I'm not going to get an antibody test because I'm not gonna get any tests because we don't want anybody, I don't want anybody marking me.

[00:58:56] Nobody's going to put me in fear. Healthy people don't make people [00:59:00] sick. I know how to get, well, I don't care. I'm not testing for every antibody I have to everything that's going around. This is ridiculous, and I'm not giving them any money because that's the whole idea. They're making a ton of money on this test.

[00:59:14] Carl Lanore: [00:59:14] The tested the vaccine, this is going to be, now, it's going to mean hundreds of billions of dollars to people. Uh, and, and you know what? It's really disgusting. And you're right. I did, I did a show just yesterday. I had this theory and I had a friend who's a statistician and actuarial. I said, you know, if you look at this, the way it's seated and the spread it seeded and spread.

[00:59:37] In cities that have large international travel hubs and a dependence on mass transit and reality. And he came on the show yesterday. He said he looked at. Passport, passport issuing. He looked at flights in and out, international flights, and now he said, you know, 70% accurate. He said, and I said, you know, we really just needed to close down New York, New Jersey, [01:00:00] Connecticut, Seattle, Washington, some places in California at a couple of these hotspots, we should have told people in those places, don't leave.

[01:00:07] Stay in your state instead of shutting down the whole country. And that's actually what South Korea did. I mean, that's really what they did. And so. We have so botched this up and the ramifications and repercussions are going to be here for years now.

[01:00:22] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [01:00:22] Right. And, and, and the botching up was deliberate. You know, why, why can, who call?

[01:00:28] And nobody's talking about longterm hydroxy chloroquine but it works. It worked in the Ebola outbreak, as I mentioned in 2014 it works. Give them, give them a one week course of hydroxychloroquine. We use it for, for rheumatoid arthritis. The FDA took it off of a, of a over counter the drugs in December of last year.

[01:00:51] No. Why would you do that? Cause people might go out and buy it and then the doctors were losing their license or whatever from the AMA. There's nothing [01:01:00] else you can conclude. But this was all deliberate because every therapy we've had for 40 years for this stuff from even happening, meaning that very first type one interferon alpha that I made it.

[01:01:13] Extremely, extremely low dose, 50 to 200 units sprayed in your nasal passages in your mouth twice a day. Um, is it, um, for a thousand people, the vial costs $600, less than 50 cents a dose to protect 600 people with a spray of alpha interferon. And what did the FDA do? Uh, Oh, they made it, uh, you know, Merck.

[01:01:40] Stop selling it cause they couldn't make any money on it. And the FDA made it illegal to put in animal food, which would have kept the virus free from jumping out of animals, all of whom have Corona viruses. So, and the same thing with retroviruses. Everything we've been talking about. For the last 40 years, [01:02:00] our government's done everything they could to keep us from getting natural product therapies.

[01:02:04] I mean, hyperbaric oxygen changer, oxygen therapy, you know, a candle of oxygen in the nose, not ventilate them, paralyze them and kill them. And it's clear the clinical data. So you know, the good news about all of this, you know, I just keep talking because I say, I've been saying for a week or so. It's time to, it's time to open everything up.

[01:02:30] And even longer. I said it never should have closed and it never should have closed. And this is a plague of corruption. This is a plague corruption and, and you can see it, but the good news is families are waking up. They're like, yeah, and what purpose does it serve to close a beach and sit in the sunshine?

[01:02:50] That's exactly what you need to heal and close farmer's markets. So all we get is GMO. All we [01:03:00] get is processed food. All we get is SAC sitting in our house or alcoholic cause we're so depressed.

[01:03:06] Carl Lanore: [01:03:06] Yeah. That's a necessity. That's an essential buying out. Booz is quintessential. That's so funny to me.

[01:03:12] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [01:03:12] No, I know.

[01:03:13] I mean, exactly. And or the Cadillac dealer. Oh, that's an essential. You know, outside of LA airport, you know, and our government had, our governors have no rights to legislate medicine, which is what we've been doing for 40 years with this vaccine program. No liability with anybody. You don't go to school, you don't get a job unless you prove you're vaccinated.

[01:03:34] You know, we can prove we're immune and we don't have to prove we're immune because we can take our own risks.

[01:03:42] Carl Lanore: [01:03:42] Well. Then at that point, I can start smoking tobacco products today if I want to. And tobacco products kill. No one argues these statistics. 1.5 million people a year die from direct intrinsic use of tobacco products.

[01:03:59] No [01:04:00] one disputes that right. The government makes big money on tax dollars on tobacco products. If I can go out and start smoking tobacco today and the government isn't telling me that I can, then they can't tell me I have to get a vaccine. If they want to tell me I have to get a vaccine and they got to shut down all the tobacco companies, they got to take cigarettes off the market because if they really gave a damn.

[01:04:21] About people's lives. There's, there's the big kahuna right there. Start there. Prove to us that you really care about human life. Start with that right there. They don't,

[01:04:33] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [01:04:33] they don't care.

[01:04:38] You're killing people. We know that

[01:04:44] the Roundup with the genetically modified foods are, are also destroying the nutritional value of our foods. You can't change a plant. You make it, you know? Non-nutritious you know, so. You know, we [01:05:00] know this fluoride in the water, as you talked about, that's another one. Fluoride. Fluoride.

[01:05:04] Carl Lanore: [01:05:04] We're one of the few developed countries that still floor dates all water, all the other ones.

[01:05:09] Germany, they've got it out because they realize it's not good for people. But, but that's because government and industry all like conjoined twins that share a heart. And in order to get rid of one. You know, in order to separate them, one of them has to die and neither one of them has wants to die because industry feeds government in it.

[01:05:31] That's where they get their money for their campaigns. And we have to pull the plug on this interview. The book is called plague of corruption, restoring faith in the promise of science. Uh, Dottie. Dr Judy Mike events is the author, uh, who's your coauthor Ken hacking. Livy hacking lively.

[01:05:49] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [01:05:49] Ken check in.

[01:05:49] Lively. Yeah. And he said he's fabulous because he's a sixth grade science teacher and he's trained in it as a, as an attorney. And so he asks the [01:06:00] questions, he probes into this, he does the research, and he says, let's suppose, and then does it look as if you were putting something on trial. So he T he can take the science, and he's taught me over the last decade, writing both books, how to take the science, and they're really suspense thrillers there.

[01:06:16] They're very quick reads. The second one especially, is a very quick read. And the first one, I thought this was all about science and I didn't realize. Until 2014 this had nothing to do with science, that it was a plague of corruption. And that's why we wrote the second book

[01:06:32] Carl Lanore: [01:06:32] far forwarded by a Robert F.

[01:06:34] Kennedy jr. It's a great book, and if you're stuck at home, instead of staring at the TV, read a book, and here's one, get it at the final bookstores like books, a million Barnes and noble. They're out of it on Amazon right now, but it's, there's plenty of them out there in the world. Get out of your house and go to a bookstore today.

[01:06:51] Maybe those are open. I don't even know. I, they.

[01:06:56] Website. Their website's open. Listen, dr Mike, if it's thanks for being here today.

[01:07:00] [01:07:00] Dr. Judy Micovtz, PhD: [01:07:00] I appreciate it, Carl. I'll look forward to being here again sometime.

[01:07:04] Carl Lanore: [01:07:04] Absolutely. You're always welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to take one quick commercial break. When we come back, I got some things I want to chat about.

[01:07:10] Sustainable. This is the superhuman channel doing reps with the weight of the work,

[01:07:25] so we're doing a show the old fashioned way. No video. It's much easier for me. I don't have all this Cisco screen switching and images to put up and all that sort of stuff. Um, so we've got some great shows planned for the entire next week, and, uh, I can thank Elisa Profumo the show, the show is really growing in popularity and we're really feeling some growing pains for a long time.

[01:07:54] I have looked for a sales person. A salesperson who has [01:08:00] digital sales experience, first of all, critical aspect of it, but somebody who actually can work without somebody standing over them. Um, we have. Not only the inventory on supreme-a radio, but the website. And we have a lot of, uh, stuff that a skilled, dedicated person who loves physical culture.

[01:08:30] Uh, who loves fitness, who loves supplementation, uh, who really gets it. But you'd have to be willing to travel two or three times a year. Uh, of course the company would pay for it to certain events, like trade shows and stuff like that. You'd have all sorts of access to free stuff because anytime a sponsor comes to board, you know, they send us samples and of course, you'd get sample film.

[01:08:54] But, um. I need somebody who really will put a full court [01:09:00] effort in and not come in here and want to change a bunch of things, but fall into place working with what we have now. And once you prove yourself, if you want to make some changes, that's great. And in fact, I envisioned somebody who comes aboard and does a great job.

[01:09:21] I'm doing all the selling myself. If I can get somebody on the phone, I can close a deal. That's how easy it is, because this is a great product. We're 14 years where the longest running health, fitness and anti-aging podcast in the world. Uh, we get great traffic to the website. I mean, some months in the peak months, it's over 300,000 visitors, unique visitors.

[01:09:45] There's some slow months where it's less. Um. We have a great product. We have a great story to tell, and I think there's a lot of people out there who is stuck at home. Maybe they've been working from home because of covert 19 [01:10:00] or maybe they're sitting home going, you know, this is a really great opportunity for me to switch careers or switch jobs or switch companies, or I want to stay in this career, but I'd really like to be able to work from home.

[01:10:14] Compensation is negotiable. Um. I'm absolutely open to part salary and big commissions because you work from home. I have to give you. The numbers that we have to hit each month. If you hit those numbers in just four hours a day, I've got no problem with that. But I'm looking for someone who's driven. I'm looking for somebody who wants to build a sales department for me cause we have other podcasts that we want to launch that we could launch if we had the sales effort.

[01:10:48] Basically, this show is a vehicle for selling advertising. I have to be honest with myself. When I get behind the mic, it's all about science and [01:11:00] information and sharing information with the listeners. But at the end of the day, this show stays alive because I sell advertising. Sponsors come on board, they buy advertising to reach you and you have rewarded me.

[01:11:13] All of you have rewarded me. So many people take advantage of sponsors products. Simply because they love the show. Now granted, the sponsor's products are great. Once they get them, they're like, wow, I really like this, and they keep using it. There's a lot of you that are still using live on labs stuff, even though they've, they've gone, I'm actually talking to a different lyposomal vitamin C company right now, but those of you who, who patronize our sponsors, keep the show going because that's really why the sponsors are willing to buy advertising.

[01:11:47] But. I really do need a mature, hardworking, dedicated, serious, not flaky. I've had a lot of people come and say they were going to sell forming. [01:12:00] Some of them sold just until they got money to go on their vacation and then they were gone. And it's really insulting to me and it's bad for the show. I haven't done a good job.

[01:12:09] I haven't been a good steward of the show. I've let people take on jobs as salespeople who really early on I knew that they didn't have it. They wanted to be involved with the show. They loved the show. They like me and I, and I liked them too. I'm not taking anything away from them, but. They didn't really have the dedication, uh, to treat this like a job.

[01:12:32] Wake up in the morning, brush your teeth, do what you gotta do. Go to the gym, then show up and put four, five, six, seven, eight hours a day into focusing on sales. And I have all the tools to harvest sponsors. I have all the tools. Now. I have some fantastic tools. How to find sponsors, how to get their email addresses, how to email them.

[01:12:55] I mean, but the problem is. I can't do the [01:13:00] show and all the other administrative stuff that I do, and on top of that, invest five or six hours a day into sale. They just can't. I'm only one person, you know? I've been working until Elisa will tell you, I don't get home until six six 30 I get here very early in the morning and when I get home, I eat, and then I work for another two or three hours, and then Alyssa and I watch an hour of TV and videos that we've recorded or something, and then I go to bed at nine o'clock.

[01:13:27] And the ability to harvest and earn over a hundred thousand dollars a year is here, and I'm not BS in you. I'm not just throwing. I know a lot of companies throw numbers out, Oh, you'll enter a hundred thousand dollars and you're, and you're stuck at 35 going, well, well, what do I have to do? Oh, I need to be six people to earn a hundred thousand you lied to me.

[01:13:46] You could easily earn a hundred thousand dollars a year working from home if you put the effort in and the timing, follow my direction. And make this a job, not a side job. That's the other problem. [01:14:00] I've had people come aboard and this was their side gig, like they worked for somebody, but then they were going to send a couple emails out here and there.

[01:14:06] I need somebody who's going to treat this like a job show up in the morning and focus on, I am the sales rep for super human radio. That's what I do, and if that sounds appealing to you, reach out to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. let's set up a phone call. Let's set up a zoom or a Skype call. Let's talk.

[01:14:29] Let's find out what you need. Let's, I'll tell you what I need and if we can get together, I'm telling you, this is a great opportunity for somebody who is looking to change their current. Work situation and it's a lot of fun and it comes with a lot of perks and even healthcare. So get in touch with me on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

[01:14:53] Today's Friday, we have shows every day for the next three weeks because Elisa Profumo is [01:15:00] knocking it out of the park. She is the hardest, and that's what I need. I need another hard worker to focus on sales the way she is. Uh, booking shows, and we have a great team here. We have social media people who, Tom, who lives in Calcutta.

[01:15:16] We have two web guys. One of them specializes in our graphic artists and web management. Uh, Arbonne lives in Denmark. Michael lives in the Philippines. Michael's worked for me for. 10 11 years now, we've got Kirkland more Leddy who does an amazing job. He, he, he works harder than I pay him, to be honest with you.

[01:15:35] I try to give him bonuses all the time because he's such a hard worker. He listens to every show and he creates the show notes. Uh, and then he works with OU Tom to coordinate the social media postings. What I've been missing for years, for years, for years is. A dedicated sales person. If that sounds like you, email me on air at  [01:16:00] dot net I will respond quickly.

[01:16:02] I'll bring you a board fast. I'll train you in a couple of days and you'll be off harvesting and making money, I promise you. Okay. That's it for today. See you next week. Have a great weekend. [01:17:00]