[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] Welcome back to another episode of super human radio. Today's Monday, May 18th we are officially a 61 days into the quarantine shutdown, semi shutdown, whatever you want to call it. I haven't been to the gym and almost two months and I feel horrible. I gotta be honest. And the first thing I'm going to do once the gym opens in June 1st is make sure to train every single session with my be strong blood flow restriction bands, first of all.

[00:00:31] And we're gonna be talking about them today because. Even though there's a bunch of great research out there about how effective they are at increasing the protein synthetic response to training, all sorts of training, not just resistance training, cardio as well. Even dr Brad Schoenfeld recently did a review of all the literature and said they work.

[00:00:54] There's still confusion about them, and I got to tell you, it's one of those things I keep asking [00:01:00] myself, why isn't everyone using it? Because it works. People will spend endless amounts of money on supplements that do zip, and they'll just keep buying them and they just keep doing zip, but they'll, for some reason.

[00:01:14] There's some, I don't understand the logic behind not using BFR. Even my good friend Billy this morning was like, yeah, but I said, Billy, I said, they work. I said, they work better than anabolic steroids, and I really mean that. I'm not just saying that if you use BFR bands for just a couple of weeks, you'll see more growth in the target muscles than if you were shooting all sorts of juice, which takes a lot longer and put your health at risk.

[00:01:41] One of the many questions that keeps coming up about BFR is does it put any health risks on people? And we're going to talk about the effects on the heart cardiovascular system in just a minute with Dr. James Strait Gunderson, but I want to promote our title [00:02:00] sponsor legendary foods. They have great snacks sent right to your door.

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[00:02:30] How you doing, sir?

[00:02:32] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:02:32] Very good, Carl. Thanks for having me.

[00:02:34] Carl Lanore: [00:02:34] Yeah, so I got to believe that somewhere in your core. When I just said, I just don't understand why more people aren't using this because it actually delivers what it promises. I got to believe that's something that perplexes you as well, right?

[00:02:50] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:02:50] Uh, yeah.

[00:02:51] Um, you know, where, where it's mostly been used has been in a certain, uh, rehab situations [00:03:00] and in, um, some very high end training. Um. Sites, but it's usually been used with an expert at the same time. And, uh, it really hasn't, there's been a confusion and a lack of awareness getting out there too. I would say the main public.

[00:03:20] And, um, you know, that's, that, that's a challenge that, uh, I think we can handle. And, uh. I, and little by little we'll get legislate the public on this, and then, you know, they're, they're pretty smart. So when they figured this out, they'll be doing it for themselves.

[00:03:38] Carl Lanore: [00:03:38] So a lot of serious athletes use them, Olympic athletes, people who are actually trying to make progress because their livelihood literally depends on it, right?

[00:03:47] I mean, that's really what you see the highest. When you look at athletes in general, the athletes who are literally like serious full time athletes, they use

[00:03:56] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:03:56] it. Yep, absolutely. Um, some, I [00:04:00] mean, those that have heard about it do, and actually I think it's a very common situation where, um. Initially, uh, coaches, uh, might be a little bit reluctant to try something new, but then if one of the top athletes kind of gets a hold of it, uh, and they see what it does for them, then all of a sudden, all the cards start, or the dominoes start falling and everybody wants to do it.

[00:04:26] That's around them.

[00:04:27] Carl Lanore: [00:04:27] So let's address something right off the top. This was actually something I had planned on addressing a little bit later, but I, you know, I heard, I heard this from my good friend today, and I think this is one of the things that confuses most people. This whole idea of blood flow restriction sounds dangerous.

[00:04:43] And he, even, my buddy Billy is, he's, he's this very strong guy. He's been training forever. And he said, yeah, but they do. Do they really work? I said, absolutely. He goes, but isn't it dangerous? Can you get a blood clot from them? Why don't we hit that one head on to kind of fertilize the soil before we move forward and talk about [00:05:00] the cardiovascular benefits?

[00:05:01] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:05:01] Very good. Um, it, it's a very common thought, uh, and common question that we get. And, um, the key is that, um. As long as you don't occlude the arterial inflow to an extremity, uh, there really is no risk of extra clotting. And let me go into that a little bit and, and say that there's three conditions that you need to have for, uh, uh, developing blood clots.

[00:05:34] It's called Virchow triad. It's been known for 200 years. And, um. You basically need status of blood and status of venous flow, and then you

[00:05:47] Carl Lanore: [00:05:47] need mean static. Your muscles turn into a puddle. Nothing's moving in

[00:05:51] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:05:51] that it's not moving.

[00:05:52] Carl Lanore: [00:05:52] Right.

[00:05:53] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:05:53] And that's, that's what happened. And this is the main key here. And that's, that's what happens in the operating room [00:06:00] or when they put a tourniquet on you or that sort of stuff, and they completely shut off blood flow into and out of the extremity.

[00:06:08] And, um. The whole key is, is that the way that we do a BFR is that we intermittently stop venous outflow, which causes the extremity to the Stan, but we really haven't done anything to arterial inflow. And then when you have a muscle contraction. Uh, th that muscle actually pumps blood past the Venus blockade.

[00:06:35] And so instead of the normal lazy river of venous blood flow, you have almost a pulsatile venous blood flow where you have distension of the veins and then they have collapsed the veins as they get empty. And that is actually the opposite of stasis. So you have a very vigorous, um, change in the amount of blood flow over time.

[00:06:58] And actually, [00:07:00] uh, elastic BFR, which is what, uh, what we use that actually has been used to limit, uh, the kinds of DBTs or thrombosis that, uh, can occur, for example, on long plane rides where you're sitting in one spot and everything else. So, um. So the first thing is status and proper. Uh, elastic. BFR is the opposite of that status.

[00:07:27] And then the second category is endothelial damage. Uh, for example, when you're in the operating room and you cut across some blood vessels, you're doing endothelial damage. And that starts the clotting mechanism, which is a good thing. Otherwise, you know, you're bleeding all over the place, right? But in the case of elastic BFR, you're not doing any endothelial damage, so you don't have that requirement.

[00:07:51] And then the last thing is, um. Is basically different. Hypercoagulable States, uh, uh, [00:08:00] estrogen supplements, uh, smoking. Uh, and then there are some genetic reasons for a hypercoaguable state. And, uh, those things we obviously don't change, but in Japan, uh, where this has been going on for decades and millions and millions of sessions.

[00:08:20] They really don't see any clots. And they certainly have people who smoke, and they certainly have people who use estrogens, and they certainly have people with genetic, uh, clotting, uh, orders. So, um, the, the bottom line is that if anything, and there've been a couple of studies done looking at the ability to form clots and the ability to lyse clots.

[00:08:42] A, with and without, uh, be strong, uh, or I mean with, uh, elastic BFR and, uh, all together, it shows that there's no additional risk for thrombosis with elastic VFR. And, and the key here is no, is [00:09:00] never, um, occluding the arterial inflow. Now that's, uh, that's. When you're using devices like blood pressure cuffs or surgical tourniquets to do your BFR, then you are at risk of occluding the arterial inflow at times

[00:09:17] Carl Lanore: [00:09:17] because they, because a blood pressure cuff, that's exactly how it works.

[00:09:20] It causes that. It causes a moment where the blood is not moving and then you listen for the point that the blood starts to move again. And that's how you establish blood pressure. Right? Exactly.

[00:09:30] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:09:30] Right. And, and so with those kinds of devices, you have to really monitor the situation and make sure you're safe.

[00:09:38] But with our elastic, uh, BFR products, uh, we never get to that kind of situation. So, uh, it's inherently safe.

[00:09:48] Carl Lanore: [00:09:48] Well, in fact, yours are the only product that actually works the way. The Japanese scientist who created katsu and all the early research back in 2006, 2007, that this [00:10:00] is what they use. They use the bladder.

[00:10:02] Uh, of air that they could measure the milligrams of mercury, of pressure. And, and of course, there's a lot of people out there selling these really cheap, almost tourniquet like devices. You know, you and I are old enough to remember bootstraps, right? So, I mean, some of these people are wearing what looks like a bootstrap.

[00:10:21] And when I started to review the research for this, uh, interview, I've found that those are the ones that cause the problem.

[00:10:28] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:10:28] Right? Absolutely. So, you know, you can go to Walmart and pick up a Cub scout belt for 25 bucks or less, and you can try to use that, but, um, a, it's unsafe. And B, you don't know what the effective kind of tension is on these sorts of things.

[00:10:49] And actually, uh, the Japanese or this, uh, dr Sato with Kaatsu, um, for about. It's 30 years. He experimented with [00:11:00] different kinds of things like judo belts and various other sorts of things. When he first thought about this and he, he gave himself, uh, some clots and some, a pulmonary embolus, and he learned firsthand that that's not the way to go.

[00:11:15] And so that's why he developed this, uh, essentially this idea of elastic BFR. And, uh, um, unfortunately, um, the people that are using blood pressure cuffs and tourniquets, surgical tourniquets, um,

[00:11:34] Carl Lanore: [00:11:34] didn't talk to themselves at great risk. They're putting themselves at great risk because now, now you can end up with thrombotic.

[00:11:41] Uh, event, there's no doubt about, nevermind the muscle ischemia is going to damage the muscle in a way that you don't want. You're gonna end up with necrotic tissue, dead tissue in the muscle that's not going to stimulate hypertrophy and protein synthesis.

[00:11:56] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:11:56] Absolutely not. You know, there's actually a paper [00:12:00] that looked at this, that was done in Norway where they use one of these surgical tourniquet devices and they actually, um.

[00:12:09] What they did is they showed that. Um, and they monitor these things closely, but they showed that below the cuff they had hypertrophy, but directly underneath the cuff, there was no change in the muscle size. And it made for some kind of weird looking quads where it was like narrow at the beginning, and then it kinda started getting, getting bigger.

[00:12:32] Uh.

[00:12:33] Carl Lanore: [00:12:33] The opposite of the synthol, uh, uh, guys who use simple. So let's talk about something that I discovered early on when using them. And, and it makes perfect sense if you think about it, if you're partitioning blood  so we're talking about occlusion at the difference between a blood flow occlusion and the blood blood flow restriction restriction.

[00:12:54] You're basically synthesizing. The pump. We all know the pump [00:13:00] works. Everybody knows the pump works. People take supplements to get the pump. Stop wasting your money on supplements and use BFR bands. But. The pump means muscle congestion, not occlusion. It means that, uh, uh, blood lactate and all these other things are trapped in the muscle.

[00:13:17] They're moving out slowly, not moving out as fast as the body wants them to. So the muscle expands. You're basically synthesizing the pump with these, but that also means something else. You're actually compartmentalizing blood. What effects does that have on the heart? Does it make it easier for the heart to work?

[00:13:35] Does it make it harder for the heart to work.

[00:13:38] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:13:38] Well. Um, that's another, uh, differentiator between, um, uh, the elastic and rigid systems. Um, the rigid systems can, uh, decreased venous return to the heart and can, uh, put extra stress on the heart in terms of a, an exaggerated blood pressure response. [00:14:00] Um. Where the elastic ones are.

[00:14:03] One of the things it's designed about these is that they, um, do not influence cardiac output and they do not, um, meaningfully, uh, increased blood pressure than would otherwise be seen with exercise. And. We just, um, have a recent publication. It actually hasn't been published yet, but it's been accepted for publication in the frontiers of physiology.

[00:14:29] And, um, if you will, I could just show you the graphs

[00:14:33] Carl Lanore: [00:14:33] please. Yeah, please, please put it up. If you take you, take your time. And we got some people commenting. Uh, Douglas, Brooke says, good stuff. Be strong. Elastic. BFR is a game changer. We actually have a question we'll get to from Mike. Uh, gon solve is, I hope I pronounce that right.

[00:14:50] He said, could it help regrow cartilage and authorial sclerosis? I think you mean, uh, arthritis, not arteriosclerotic joint cause out there, it was corrosive refers to plaque [00:15:00] buildup in the arteries. I would imagine that growth factors increasing in and around the joints are affected by the growth factors that are coming out of the muscles, right?

[00:15:09] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:15:09] Yes. Um, yes. There, um. Basically, any tissues that are involved in the work are going to get the benefit of this systemic response that goes forward. And that includes, uh, uh, bones, ligaments, cartilage, tendons, um, all the tissue, blood vessels. Um, they will all be helped by, uh, these elastic BFR work sessions.

[00:15:35] Carl Lanore: [00:15:35] And, and Jessica points out, God, I w I don't want to gloss over this because. If you have an ACL problem, which so many people have today. I got, I tore my left ACL when I was 20 years old skiing at the Playboy club, and I didn't want to get off the slopes and we were drinking and I took a fall. My bindings didn't come off.

[00:15:53] My leg turned around. I popped the ACL, I went to dr Jim parks. He was the, the, [00:16:00] the orthopod for the Mets. Then. Cause my, I had a good friend who played for the Mets and, and he said, you know, we could do a cadaver ligament, but just make your quads strong. Just make your quad strong. And my quads have been my bread and butter, squatting, leg pressing and everything else.

[00:16:16] Now they're weak and that knee is getting jangley. What Jessica points out here is very important. If you have a torn ACL, that knee becomes unstable. The best thing you can do to make that knee stable is build the hamstring and the quadricep muscles and you can do it faster using BFR.

[00:16:33] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:16:33] Absolutely. And take taken together.

[00:16:36] We've, we've done quite a few ACL patients and taken together, normally takes about a year to come back from having a, an ACL tear and then a graph replacement. Uh, and we're able to get people back in six months. And the big reason why we're able to get them back so fast is because we start elastic BFR right away.

[00:16:59] And [00:17:00] so there's not as much atrophy in the first place. And then, because they're, these are essentially gentle exercises and don't disturb the surgical repair. We're able to get meaningful improvements in strength and hypertrophy very, very quickly. And this, this allows the, uh, person a much quicker back to their levels of activity before, whether that's at a professional athletes or, or just the rest of us.

[00:17:28] Carl Lanore: [00:17:28] We'll get to everybody's question. I promise you we have a little flow. No, no pun intended. We have a little flow to the show that I want to try to maintain a little bit because I want to get a lot of this information out there. Uh, we have to, you know. When I was a young man, I left the optometry industry and became a salesperson of water conditioners door to door.

[00:17:48] I made a lot of money doing that. I never wanted to become an optician again. And so, uh, a man once told me there's only two reasons someone won't buy something. He said, if they don't, that is, if they don't understand it or [00:18:00] they don't believe it, and they can't believe it if they don't understand it. So education is the most important thing to creating a consumer today.

[00:18:07] So I want to answer a lot of questions to get people. Back in the know. So what's the difference between a lower limbs and upper limbs? Do we see a difference in compartmentalization of changes in the heart, changes in a venous pressure and stuff like that? Well,

[00:18:24] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:18:24] um, the upper limbs and lower limbs are a little different.

[00:18:28] Um, the upper limbs have less muscle mass. They're at the same level as the heart. And, um, uh, the feelings of fatigue are more prominent with, uh, um, elastic, uh, blood flow restriction training, um, in the upper limbs, and they are in the lower limbs. Uh, but essentially, uh, it can be done, right. Yeah. And, and also, uh, the pressures that we use are higher in the lower limbs than they are in the upper limbs.

[00:18:59] Uh, but [00:19:00] that's, that's mainly just because of the increased mass and because of gravity and the position that you're usually exercising in and, but, uh, all said and done with a couple of those little tweaks. Uh, the principles are the same. We exercise muscles to fatigue, and that fatigue signal goes to the brain and, and elicits a systemic and anabolic response.

[00:19:26] Uh, that goes everywhere in the body. And so this is one of the things that, uh, is, is also a very common question. And, you know, they say, well, you know, I'm, I'm doing a bench press, but, uh, the, uh, BFR bands are only restricting blood from my triceps and my pecs aren't really restricted at all.

[00:19:48] Carl Lanore: [00:19:48] That's totally incorrect.

[00:19:50] Because when you think about it, because if you're, if you're congesting the muscle on this side of the band, you're causing back pressure on this side of the band.

[00:19:58] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:19:58] Yeah. And [00:20:00] also you're using, you're using your PEX at the same time. And so what happens is when you get this systemic response, any muscles that have been exercising, whether they are proximal or distal.

[00:20:12] To, the bands are going to get the benefit of this anabolic hormonal response. Right now,

[00:20:18] Carl Lanore: [00:20:18] I notice it when I wear the bands and I'm training chest, my pecs get fuller, my by the front heads of my, my shoulders get fuller when I'm training back and I wear the bands on my upper arms, my biceps naturally get it.

[00:20:32] My brachial, I look like I have good forearms when I wear the bands because they just blow up like Popeye's arms. Right.

[00:20:39] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:20:39] I was just going to say, we're going to call you Papa.

[00:20:41] Carl Lanore: [00:20:41] Well, my father looked like Papa, who was a truck driver his whole life, but, but my back, my, when I train back and I'm wearing the bands here, I get more of a pump in my rear delts.

[00:20:50] I get more of a pump in my upper lats. So you can't create pressure, you know? It's like if you step on a hose, the pressure [00:21:00] changes on both sides. If that hose is free flowing, sure, you're going to have. A pressure drop on the end that it's falling out and build up. But we're a closed system. We're not a free flow system, so you can't move this.

[00:21:13] This artery can't move blood this way without this vein moving blood this way. So when you, when you occlude the muscle here, you get it up in your chest. You feel it in your traps, you feel it

[00:21:23] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:21:23] everywhere right?

[00:21:25] Carl Lanore: [00:21:25] Because we're a closed system, so, and you really, I can't wait to start training again because I am not going to train one day without my be strong band.

[00:21:36] So I have a question. If I'm not training legs, I've been wearing the be strong bands to do cardio before I train upper body. Let's say, should I, is it, is it a mistake to wear them both at the same time? Am I causing too much compartmentalization? Then.

[00:21:52] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:21:52] No, not, not with our bands. Um, and, uh, for example, it's very [00:22:00] common to do, um, put all four bands on arms and legs and then do kind of calisthenics it, get all the muscle mass gone, like burpees or jumping jacks or, um, lunges with arm weights or they're, there's a whole series of things where.

[00:22:19] That the whole concept is, uh, what we want to do is we want to create this fatigue signal in as much of the body's muscle mass as possible to get the biggest systemic response as possible. And, um, uh, it's, it's relatively easily done. Uh, people go, they, they use all four bands on rowing their gutters, for example, or stair climbers or, um.

[00:22:49] A variety of Airdyne bikes, a whole variety of machines where you're doing whole, whole body exercise. I'll

[00:22:57] Carl Lanore: [00:22:57] tell you right now. I bought an Airdyne because [00:23:00] of a covert 19 cause I felt like I wanted one. They are a lot harder than you think they are to do continuously. I didn't, I didn't have any respect with the bands.

[00:23:10] Yeah. I can't look, look, walking. Walking is harder with the bands on, I've said on this show before that wearing my lower leg beasts, my my upper leg be strong bands and just going out for a walk when I'm done, I feel like I've squatted.

[00:23:23] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:23:23] I made it just literally a 15 minute walk. Walking the dog around with the bands on is going to be effective training.

[00:23:32] Carl Lanore: [00:23:32] Amazing, amazing stuff and not enough people are using them. So let's talk about changes in blood pressure for a second. Okay? Okay. Um, so what do we know about hemodynamics and changes in blood pressure? Is there anything people should become concerned about? Is this why you say 50% of the max weight don't get too heavy, is it could, could you end up getting syncope you think.

[00:23:56] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:23:56] Well, um, it, it's, uh, a bit of a [00:24:00] complicated subject, but one of the things to start with is that when we go from rest to any kind of exercise, we are increasing blood pressure. So, um. If we have a resting blood pressure of 120 over 80 for example, if we're doing standard weight training, we might get a pretty high blood pressures of one 80 to 200 over a hundred to 110 if we're doing things like aerobic exercise or cardio exercise, uh, that.

[00:24:32] Blood pressure doesn't get quite so high, but it's still higher than rest. So instead of one 20, over 80, let's say, one 40 or one 50, over 90. And, um, so, uh, we, anytime we're exercise, we're going to get an increase in blood pressure. Now the question is, is does BFR, uh, ink increased blood pressure beyond what normally happens with exercise?

[00:24:58] Right? [00:25:00] And, um. And if it does, that may be a concern for those people that have some level of atherosclerosis or cardiac disease, because sometimes that increased blood pressure is added, uh, is added taxing of the heart. And, um, just recently, um, a study, um, that is about to be published came out showing that, uh, when you use these rigid.

[00:25:27] Surgical tourniquets. Then you have a marked increase in systolic blood pressure and, and a mean arterial pressure and something called double product, which is heart rate times systolic blood pressure, which ends up mimicking the myocardial oxygen demand on the heart and where it. Yeah. There's a very abrupt, almost one and a half times the load, uh, with, uh, with the rigid BFR systems where when they use the elastic BFR systems, [00:26:00] it was really no different than just regular walking without the bands on.

[00:26:05] In fact, it was actually a little bit less than walking without the bands on. Okay. And the explanation for that is it has to do with this stuff that we've already talked about where, um, with elastic BFR, we're not really bothering the arterial inflow very much. We're just modulating the Venus Southville.

[00:26:28] Now that does change what happens with circulation through the whole extremity, but we don't get to this thing where we're squeezing the muscle. And squeezing the arteries, which is eliciting this exercise pressure response.

[00:26:43] Carl Lanore: [00:26:43] So

[00:26:43] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:26:43] interesting. Um, it's, it's a very handy tool for a cardiac rehab. Actually,

[00:26:49] Carl Lanore: [00:26:49] I did see a study about that.

[00:26:52] Yeah. I even saw a study that suggested that, uh, I guess there's different classes of heart failure. [00:27:00] But in, in the, in the early phases of heart failure, it seems that blood flow restriction can actually make the heart stronger. And I want to talk about that then the exercise mimetic effects when we come back from the break and we got lots of questions piling up.

[00:27:16] Patrick Rogers, we're going to get you Eric Rogers. I don't know if you guys are related. We're going to get you when we come back from the break. Uh, but I, I want to say this for the listening audience that didn't see. What we're streaming on the screen. So we've had a special offer from a be strong for some time now, and we'll have new banner ads up on the super human radio website later today.

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[00:28:33] You won't regret it. You'll thank me. We did a whole show. From the audience. In fact, Tommy D was supposed to be on it, but he had trouble with his internet connection that day where people said like their arms grew in, in a matter of weeks. They achieved a level of muscularity in their biceps that they could never achieve before without using the be strong bands.

[00:28:55] And there's a reason for that because the reality is a muscle congestion [00:29:00] probably from an evolutionary perspective. Isn't something your body wants to do because if you have to fight off an animal, you don't want the pump. You want to be able to keep fighting. So this is a real, so people talk about biohacking all the time.

[00:29:15] This is biohacking right here. This is legitimate biohacking. This is real biohacking. You are going to force your muscles to grow if they don't want to. This is the way to go. We're going to take one quick commercial break. We'll be right back. We'll answer all of your questions on the other side and continue with the discussion.

[00:29:31] Stay tuned.

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[00:29:45] Welcome back. We're talking with Dr. James stray Gundersen. He really is the guy who's been driving the ship about VFR. This product, but the right and wrong way to use BFR because this isn't something you [00:30:00] can just do Willy nilly. You just can't take your belt and central off your arms and go train.

[00:30:04] You'll end up with injuries that'll haunt you for the rest of your life. So there's a couple of questions I want to hit real quick that are kind of similar. I'm going to put them both up one after the other, but it's about timeframes. How often, uh, you know, is there a safe timeframe? How long can you use them.

[00:30:22] Uh, you know, cause Patrick Rogers runs a farm and he's a strong dude. He's a former strong man. And he actually said earlier, you know, he's going to put them on when he splits wood. Is there a method of evaluating like, Oh, you're wearing them too long?

[00:30:37] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:30:37] Um.

[00:30:38] Carl Lanore: [00:30:38] Uh,

[00:30:40] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:30:40] the short answer is if you're w if you're using them with exercise, not really.

[00:30:47] We, we generally recommend about 30 minutes for a length of time, uh, and that you're doing exercise during that time because it's [00:31:00] partially, it's the exercise and the muscle contractions that are helping keep the blood circulating. Now, if, if what you do is you want, you put them on and you want to sleep, um, you know, the next morning maybe, uh, some bad things might happen in terms of clotting cause you have that status that you didn't have before.

[00:31:21] Carl Lanore: [00:31:21] The actually, the exercise creep keeps the muscle pumping. And moving blood. Right, right.

[00:31:27] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:31:27] Exactly. And, um, but we, we further designed our bands, and this is certainly true with the blood pressure cuff devices, but we've designed our bands so that at the end of the day, uh, you are probably still safe, but we recommend that you kind of go about your business with exercise.

[00:31:46] Now, if that exercise lasts an hour, that's fine. If that exercise is 20 minutes, that's fine. Um, but, uh, I think the key is that people should be going about their business and they should be, [00:32:00] uh, exercising. And with respect to Eric's, uh, concern here about multi multiple sessions a day. Oh, that's one of the really neat things about, uh, be strong, elastic, BFR, and that is, is that you can get yourself pretty darn exhausted, you know, in a workout in 20, 30 minutes.

[00:32:20] But then two, three hours later, you're good to go. And you can do it again. Where with, for example, standard heavy lifting. You know, usually people take about two days to be before they're going to go do that kind of workout again. But, uh, we have, we have athletes who are used to working out multiple times a day, uh, sometimes do this three or even four times a day.

[00:32:44] And, uh, uh, for anyone that has, uh, been recreationally active and then got injured and is coming back, uh, twice a day, once in the morning, once in the afternoon, is, is just fine. And, uh, [00:33:00] I would, I would say though that a, um, kinda typical baby boomer, like I am. Um, you know, once it, once a day, five times a week is, is a good regular rule.

[00:33:13] Uh, as you, as you age, you probably don't tolerate the same volume of exercise. So, um, uh, and then even a little older twice, twice a week is probably good. So, um. And, and I guess, uh, Eric's question was also about other kinds of workouts. And that's perfectly fine. Uh, I'm in the habit of doing an aerobic or a cardiac workout, uh, in the morning and then a B strong session in the afternoon.

[00:33:45] Carl Lanore: [00:33:45] Well, we'll let, let's, let's talk about that just for a second, cause it's actually one of the questions I was going to throw in here. So we know that sauna. Acts as an exercise. Mimetic we know that people who are cardiac cripples, let's say they really can't do a whole lot. You [00:34:00] get them in a sauna, you know, five minutes at a time, their rate, the heart rate goes up, they recover, and all of a sudden after a couple months of doing that, now they can actually start walking because it starts to, you start to recover from that and you, you start to adapt and you can be, your heart gets stronger and stronger.

[00:34:16] So I would imagine that wearing your be strong. Bands, while just walking has to have some sort of resistance training mimetic effect.

[00:34:25] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:34:25] Ah, it's, it's great stuff. Uh, and as a matter of fact, um, in Japan, uh, there's very effective programs of, of walking, uh, with the elastic BFR bands on. And, uh, and that's something that virtually everybody can do.

[00:34:43] So, uh, it's good stuff and it, and it helps, uh, both the, uh, cardiovascular fitness as well as the individual muscle fitness of that person.

[00:34:53] Carl Lanore: [00:34:53] So what is, uh, what is the, there seems to be an increase in hemoglobin, first of all, I have to [00:35:00] believe it's transient, but is that because of the, uh, muscle congestion causing greater demands on oxygen?

[00:35:07] So the body upregulates hemoglobin production.

[00:35:10] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:35:10] Well, if you're talking about an increase in hemoglobin concentration from before a session to after a session, that that's almost certainly due to plasma volume shifts and that that relates to the muscle pump that you talk about. So you're putting more fluid into the muscle and less, and that fluid comes out of the.

[00:35:32] Uh, out of the blood, and therefore the hemoglobin in the red cells that stay behind become a higher concentration.

[00:35:39] Carl Lanore: [00:35:39] Oh, okay. So that's just situational. That's just in that muscle really. Yeah. It doesn't affect the whole body. What about BFR and, uh, post-training genetic changes? We see that at, uh, there's an increase in angiogenic gene expression, which is going to increase blood vessel, uh, creation in the muscles as well.

[00:35:57] Right.

[00:35:58] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:35:58] Yeah. You know, there is a very [00:36:00] important paper, um, that came out in about 2014. Um, the first author is, uh, is a man named Larkin. And what they did is they, um, measured mr and a, or, uh, the thing that, uh, the thing that codes to increase protein synthesis. And, uh, and they measured it for things like VGF.

[00:36:24] Um, if one alpha and various nitric oxide syntase um, enzymes,

[00:36:31] Carl Lanore: [00:36:31] they didn't measure fibroblasts growth factor for nerve, a new nerve sprouting.

[00:36:34] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:36:34] No, this,

[00:36:35] Carl Lanore: [00:36:35] this, I bet. I bet it went up. If nitric oxide is going up, uh, fibroblasts go through act, that has to be going up.

[00:36:41] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:36:41] Yeah. It prob, you know, it very well may have, but these are the five things that they measure.

[00:36:47] And they showed that there was dramatic increases with these sayings. Um, uh, what by doing a, an elastic BFR session. And, uh, [00:37:00] and you know, it makes some sense because again, if you're doing this with the elastic BFR, you're, you're distending the veins and the capillaries on one hand. And then when the muscles contract, you're, you're kind of collapsing all this, moving all the blood out.

[00:37:14] So you can. You kind of have this a stretch and a repetitive exercise of the smooth muscle that are, that are in the, um, blood vessels. And that ends up, that can very well stimulate, uh. Uh, angiogenesis or increase in angiogenic, uh, uh, factors.

[00:37:36] Carl Lanore: [00:37:36] We also know that that increases wall strength of the blood vessels.

[00:37:39] So we know that as people age, due to hormonal influences, blood vessels become weaker. Uh, blood leakage is always an issue. There's even some evidence that leakage can lead to clot, unwanted clotting. Uh, we also know that people end up with, um. Aneurysms and throughout their body. Uh, we see this with, uh, [00:38:00] women and men.

[00:38:01] As they get hormonal changes, they start to develop varicose veins. The thing that changes that, believe it or not, and we know this from weightlifters, their blood vessels are like rubber hoses because of that Val salvia that, that, that momentary. Pressure, but then it goes away. That momentary pressure, but then it goes away and that actually up causes the body to go, wow, we may blow something someday.

[00:38:26] We need to upgrade in response to this kind of demand and the blood vessels get thicker and stronger. I have to imagine that this is mimicking that effect with lighter weight.

[00:38:36] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:38:36] Yeah, absolutely. And here, here's one way to think about this. If, if you have, you know, during this kind of weightlifting, um, you, you can develop very high pressures and everybody says, Oh, well that's bad.

[00:38:49] That's high, high blood pressure. But it's, it's only because it's during the exercise and that then this exercise then sets for the resting blood pressure to [00:39:00] be even lower, and this is one of the effects of any kind of exercise is that. And what's wrong with blood pressure is having a constant high pressure.

[00:39:10] And so there's just wear and tear on the arteries as opposed to good training where you have periodic stressors that cause the body to adapt and, and get even better at, at dealing with these things. So yeah. Um, uh, that, that's certainly true for regular exercise. And it is certainly true for a elastic BFR exercise.

[00:39:33] Like be strong.

[00:39:34] Carl Lanore: [00:39:34] Here's a real world question. What do you do to clean them if they start stinking after training? Aiden, you're being real. I have the same problem because y'all, I'm Italian. I sweat garlic. So you know, what do you do? How can you help them? You can

[00:39:47] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:39:47] put them in the washing machine on a gentle cycle and just, and then, uh, I, we, we don't recommend that you put them in a dryer on hot key, cause that might damage some of the bottom of the [00:40:00] band.

[00:40:00] But, uh, you can put them on, uh, you can let them air dry out of the sun. Um, uh, just regular washing is just fine.

[00:40:09] Carl Lanore: [00:40:09] I, I would imagine taking it, bring them in a sink, get yourself some, some, uh, detergent, whatever you want to use. Wash them in the sink. You know, I, when I lived in Vegas, I dated a lot of cocktail waitresses every night they would come home from the casinos and they'd wash their pantyhose and literally all the, the smoke, uh, nicotine.

[00:40:27] It would just. It's gross. Right? But you know, you just, you just wash them by hand. Like people did things in the old days. You hang them up and let them dry in the next day, there'll be dry for you. I don't even think you need to put them in a washing machine,

[00:40:37] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:40:37] right. Either. Either way. So there's, there's, you know, these bands going water, uh, you can swim with them.

[00:40:46] Um, you can, there's no problem getting them wet. There's no problem using soaps on them. Um.

[00:40:54] Carl Lanore: [00:40:54] Let's get a couple of the questions up your comments. So he had Doug. Brooke says, you know, I'm a physiologist, is that, [00:41:00] uh, I've, I've followed BFR training research, but never too excited because I didn't see how it could scale it to use outside of the medical rehab setting.

[00:41:11] Uh, this be strong product is idiot proof. Simple, safe, affordable, comfortable. Now we can use BFR, even in unsupervised settings with frail, older adults, rehab, athletic settings, fitness in the water, et cetera. It's mind blowing. Yes, it is. It's, it really is. And I, and I gotta be honest with you, I ask myself, I mean, people will go out and buy lifting belts.

[00:41:36] And walk around the gym with them all the time the wrong way. And Patrick Rogers was gonna laugh at this. I, you see guys walking around the gym with their lifting belts on all day long, and they're training arms. He's like, you don't need your lifting belt on unless you're doing something where your lower back is at risk.

[00:41:49] But I know it gives a lot of guy who's a good V taper by sucking in their stomach. But guys will go out and spend, you know, $40 on a lifting belt with their name on the back of it. A hundred dollars. And, and you're [00:42:00] missing out on an opportunity to make an investment in a piece of gear that will last you forever.

[00:42:04] First of all, these things adorable. It'll last you forever, but it will actually deliver on the promise that you bought it for, which is add muscle. It will blow up your muscles so quickly. Rigo Vargas came on this show and talked about his experience with the be strong bands. And he Le, he said that they were a lifesaver for eight weeks.

[00:42:26] Uh, the gym w the gyms have been closed here in Mississippi. I did my first heavy weight workout last week, and I haven't lost any strength because he's been doing body weight work and stuff at home with his bands on.

[00:42:38] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:42:38] Right. And he came

[00:42:40] Carl Lanore: [00:42:40] on the show and talked about how in such a short time his upper arms just exploded.

[00:42:45] His legs just exploded.

[00:42:46] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:42:46] Yeah, this is the perfect home exercise, because you don't need a lot of extra gear, you know, you know, you don't need all the plates that you have in the gym and, uh, you know, just everyday stuff like, uh, [00:43:00] chairs or stairs or, uh, you know, one of my favorites is, is you have some gallon milk containers and you.

[00:43:09] Have you saved them after you consumed the milk? And then you can put various amounts of water in them and, and there you go for some good hand weights and that's all you need.

[00:43:19] Carl Lanore: [00:43:19] Um, so Henry, uh, is a good friend of mine. He came to the show late. So let's just reiterate this. How long do you recommend training with them?

[00:43:27] How long should you have them on?

[00:43:29] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:43:29] Uh, generally if you're going about your business, uh, you can get a robust workout in 30 minutes. But, um, you know, yeah. For those of you who are used to really working out hard and often, um, you can, it can go for an hour or so.

[00:43:48] Carl Lanore: [00:43:48] Henry Henry is a dancer. In fact, he's been on dancing with the stars.

[00:43:51] The guy has got a physique that looks like it's chiseled out of stone, and he's an amazing dancer. He does things with his body that most of us wish we could do. [00:44:00] Um, do you think he can dance with them on.

[00:44:03] Yes.

[00:44:03] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:44:03] As a matter of fact, that actually, Carl, that's a good point, uh, for any kind of exercise if people enjoy doing or they're good at.

[00:44:12] All they have to do is to put the bands on, and it just amplifies the benefit of that particular workout. So, um,

[00:44:20] Carl Lanore: [00:44:20] it'll make it straight. It'll make you stronger in the movements that you're executing and dancing. So think about that, Henry. If you put these on and you. I mean, I know you train all day long, but even if you only wore them for 30 minutes at a time, but I guess you could train all day long.

[00:44:34] As long as you keep moving and you're letting the blood go through. But imagine starting to jump with these on. When you take them off, you'll be able to jump higher. I guarantee it because I walk with them on, I do. Farmers walks with them on and when I take them off, farmer's walks feel like a breeze. So they will make you stronger in the movements that you need to be strong.

[00:44:54] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:44:54] Let, let me, uh, let me amplify that just a bit. And Henry, as I'm sure you [00:45:00] understand, the way the body improves is you perturb the situation. You do something newer and harder. And, uh, just by putting the bands on the exercises that you've been used to, they end up becoming harder because you've limited the amount of blood flow that these muscles can get.

[00:45:20] And so you create this metabolic crisis. That ends up stimulating a nice response to the exercise.

[00:45:27] Carl Lanore: [00:45:27] So right now, if you go to be strong.training forward slash super hype, hyphen human, you can get the upper arm bands for almost a hundred dollars off. There are one 99. This is a really great special. Uh, we want to make them available to people.

[00:45:42] We want people to try them. And then if you love them to get, get up for your legs, you know, um, but start out with the upper arms and your arms will blow up. In literally days. I, I, I received pictures from people. Who, who get them. And a week later they go, look at my biceps, how thick they are. They've never been like that.

[00:45:58] They work. And this [00:46:00] is, this is not hype. We're going to take a quick commercial break, and when we come back, we've got lots of more questions and comments. Uh, stay tuned again, I'm gonna say it again. For the audience that listens to the podcast, be strong. BSB, S, T, R, O, N, G. Dot. Training slash super hyphen human one 99.

[00:46:20] Pick your size, order them. You won't be disappointed. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more.

[00:46:28] This is the superhuman channel where brawn and brains finally meet.

[00:46:37] Welcome back. So, um, we have a couple of questions here that I want to get up because people are asking, um. So Jason Waddell said, do you have a coupon code for arms and legs? We did a, but it's changed, but I just texted Shawn, uh, and said, can you please [00:47:00] set up the SHR code so people go to just the normal website, B, B strong.training, and you order the $429 pair, you can save 20% off, which was the old deal.

[00:47:12] As we transitioned to the new deal. So, uh, Eric Rogers is saying, that would be awesome too. Um, and, uh, and Ricardo, David's is saying, I want this, uh, he's from Jamaica. Yes, I'm sure we can ship to Jamaica as well. Um, so yeah, it's, we're working on it. We're working on it. We'll, we'll, we'll have answers for you, I promise, and I'll post something on my Facebook wall or hopefully the work will get done quickly and you can buy the entire set.

[00:47:40] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:47:40] And I comment, may I add a comment back to, uh, what, uh, Henry's question was? Yes, of course. Please. And that is that if you're, if you're using a B strong bands with a specific activity that you're particularly good at, um, it's, it's [00:48:00] really helpful because it induces this fatigue state. And as I'm sure Henry knows, what's really hard to do is to have the correct form and the correct technique, uh, went under conditions of fatigue.

[00:48:14] And so it helps people, uh, hold their technique together when, when they're fatigued as well. And so this has application for dancing, for, uh, all sorts of technique oriented sports as well.

[00:48:30] Carl Lanore: [00:48:30] I'm sorry, I turned my mic off because I'm typing. And my keyboard makes this noise because it's kind of out of balance.

[00:48:36] But what Sean said, if you go to be strong.training and use the code SHR 20 you can get the entire kit for 20% off, which was the original deal. So there you go. You asked for it and I got it for you. So I would just go to beef, strong training. Don't do the forward. Slash. Uh, uh, super hyphen human. Just go to be strong.training.

[00:48:55] Use the code SHR 20, and you can get the whole kid off. And another thing I just noticed, if you're a [00:49:00] personal trainer, they actually have packages for trainers so that you can have three or four people at the gym at the same time and blow them all up and get them working. Cause a lot of trainers like to have four or five people getting trained at the same time and they do it kind of like a boot camp.

[00:49:13] This is, this is a great opportunity for you to charge more, right. Or keep charging the same rates, but get your, your clients better results and guess who they're going to want to stay with. So that's pretty exciting too. Uh, here's a question from Kurt heinous. He says, uh, if your legs are at the top of one band size, does it make sense to order up a size or not?

[00:49:36] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:49:36] Uh, that's, that's a great question, Kurt. Um, our, our band size is overlaps. So, uh, if you're kind of right in the middle between two band sizes, uh, both will fit you and, uh, and probably both will accommodate any kind of hypertrophy or increase in size that you might get. Uh, [00:50:00] generally speaking, we recommend, um, to go with this smaller, um, size than the bigger size if you're right on the threshold of being able to use both of them.

[00:50:11] Uh, it's just, uh, less material in the way and, and, uh, people find that a little bit more comfortable, but both, both would work for you.

[00:50:20] Carl Lanore: [00:50:20] Yeah, I mean, it's, it's like a belt, right? If you're a size 31, you could either buy a, you know, a 29 or 32. Because your, that the belts are sold where the middle hole is your target size.

[00:50:33] So you have room to gain weight and lose weight. So I'll make it makes perfect sense. I, let's get back to a couple of topics here and then we'll look and see what other questions we have. What is, or is it, uh, I got, I got a good discussion after today's show, some critical thinking. We see, we're seeing people are complaining about crazy weather right now and it's true.

[00:50:55] And guess what? Uh, uh, carbon, uh, CO2 [00:51:00] and nitrogen, uh, uh, um, dioxide are lower right now because the covert 19, I'm saying maybe, maybe we need this stuff to keep the temperatures in check. So I'm going to ask that question later. A little, a little tongue in cheek, but really, so, um, what is, I'm trying to find this here.

[00:51:18] Abnormal exercise pressure reflux.

[00:51:25] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:51:25] Um, well, um, some people, and particularly if you're using these rigid, uh, blood flow restriction, prop prod things, basically when you put them on and they squeeze the muscle that in it's, it's almost painful. Or it can be painful. And that causes blood pressure and heart rate to go up just just because you kinda crushed somebody's thigh or, or upper arm.

[00:51:55] And it, it's, it's, in a way, it's a pain reflects, um, [00:52:00] so, um, that is avoided by, uh, using, uh, our, our elastic, uh, be strong

[00:52:07] Carl Lanore: [00:52:07] bands. And, and we're, we're specifically talking about be strong bands. So I'm getting some messages from people saying that they don't hear me saying be strong often enough. But we're talking specifically about the be strong bands here, which have been developed by dr  on this.

[00:52:23] And, and he's got 30 years. Of experience working with high level athletes. Uh, so his credibility is on the line. He's not going to promote a product that is unsafe or doesn't do what it's supposed to do, uh, and be strong. BFR, uh, system is great for the gym, but it's also a great tool for at home, for those of us who are locked in.

[00:52:42] You heard with Rigo Vargas said, you know, he's using his BFR bands at home and he's getting, yeah. I don't know why I didn't think of this, but I gotta put them on every morning. I've just been so disheartened. That I can't go into the gym and move. Wait, I gotta tell you it's really taken a toll on me [00:53:00] mentally and physically.

[00:53:01] Uh, but I'm going to change up. So Rigo has a question. We're going to get it up here real quick. He says, uh, the light bands can disrupt my ability to isolate a muscle group. For instance, what, uh, whilst I wear the leg bands, my quads get destroyed, but I have trouble hitting my hams and glutes. Uh, what does dr straight Gunnison think of that.

[00:53:24] Well.

[00:53:25] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:53:25] Um, I would think that any, um, a given exercise, you know, I, I can certainly destroy my hamstrings with hamstring curls.

[00:53:37] Carl Lanore: [00:53:37] I was just, I wear them when I do have different girls.

[00:53:39] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:53:39] That's what I, um, I think it's just a question of which particular exercise you're using. Uh, but, uh, the same principle works for all the exercises.

[00:53:49] As a matter of fact, um, uh, we talked a little bit about bench press where you're actually getting the pecs gone as well as the, as the [00:54:00] triceps. And, uh, you also see that, for example, with lunches, you'll start feeling some fatigue in your glutes even though they're well above the, uh, leg band. So, um. This, this kind of fatigue happens everywhere.

[00:54:16] Carl Lanore: [00:54:16] I would imagine that if you're doing a movement that is predominantly activating the quads, they are going to feel the greatest pumps. So if you're squatting, you're going to feel it more in your quads. But if you're doing, I would imagine if you're doing a Romanian deadlifts, uh, or even, uh, or even, um, reverse hypers.

[00:54:33] Yeah, I think you're going to feel the pump and your quads, I mean in your hamstrings and your glutes. More a hip thrust too. I would imagine if you're doing hip thrusts, you're going to feel that in your glutes. Um, so I would imagine it has a lot more to do with using movements that target the hamstrings to a greater degree.

[00:54:51] Let's make sure we didn't, uh, let's talk real quick about cuff pressure since we kind of. Talked about this, but a lot of the research shows, [00:55:00] uh, it's prescribed 40 to 90% of an individual's arterial occlusion pressure. How do you establish that?

[00:55:06] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:55:06] Yeah, so with our bands, since you can't occlude the arteries, you can't go to 49 or 90% of it.

[00:55:14] And so we have a different way of going about getting to the right pressure the first time. You try be strong. We have a series of arbitrary pressures that we've worked out that worked for most people. For the particular size band that you're using are our number one bands. We use one 50 for the number two bands, 200, uh, two 50 and 300 and, and so on.

[00:55:39] Um, but that's just the first time because the thing that really matters is, is whether or not you're getting a good fatigue signal. From the workout, and you can't know that ahead of time on the first workout. But after you do something, you pick an arbitrary pressure and you find that you do get fatigued and you know that that's a good pressure for you, [00:56:00] and that's where you can go back.

[00:56:01] So we, we have a different way of going about finding an effective pressure and effective workouts. Um. So, um, the idea here is that, uh, you just try something for the first time and if you get a good fatigue signal, you know you're doing it right.

[00:56:21] Carl Lanore: [00:56:21] Uh, Sean Wayland is putting up the link. Um. But, but the truth is, I, I think you could you also go to just, uh, be strong.training.

[00:56:30] Select the appropriate, uh, package, uh, which is the full body package, which is four 29. And use the code SHR 20. Or do you have to use that specific URL, Sean, if you can right

[00:56:42] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:56:42] now, I think the idea is you just go to the be strong.training and then you go to the shop, right. Shop, right? And you'll be able to.

[00:56:50] Ah, find a place to put the discount code.

[00:56:52] Carl Lanore: [00:56:52] Hey, Sean, what about a 20% discount on the training packages for any personal trainers out there that want to spend, you know, uh, quite a bit more money, but [00:57:00] still they could probably increase the money that they charge clients, uh, to let them use the beat, be strong bands.

[00:57:06] What about that? Uh,

[00:57:08] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:57:08] it'll be fine.

[00:57:09] Carl Lanore: [00:57:09] Yeah. So let's make that, you can Sean, make that 20% SHR 20 a site-wide, except for. The, uh, arms only because you get a better deal if you use the SHR code. And the, the URL that I just had scrolling on the screen right now, which is be strong.training/super hyphen human, and that'll bring you to a page where exclusively the upper arm system is reduced from two 88 to one 99 yeah, look at us.

[00:57:40] There you go. You're asking. You receive. Yes, the SHR 20 across the board. So if you want to buy the personal trainer kit, you can. Uh, but again, if you just want the upper arms, it's a better deal to use the URL, be strong.training/super hyphen human, and you'll save almost a hundred [00:58:00] dollars off the upper arm.

[00:58:00] So check that out. Let me make sure we don't have any other questions. We have to get to. I think we. Yeah. Doug, Doug. Brooke says, try, he's talking to Rigo he says, try glute bridges while you've got the bands on. Yes. I would imagine that would definitely activate the hams and the glutes. Did we miss anything?

[00:58:17] Uh, Jim, you think we missed anything?

[00:58:20] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:58:20] Nah, I think we covered most of it. I think the most important points to get across is that the be strong system is safe and effective. It's affordable, uh, can be used by anywhere, by anyone at any time, anywhere with any activity goes in the water, out of the water, um, indoors, outdoors.

[00:58:43] Hot and cold.

[00:58:45] Carl Lanore: [00:58:45] We even discussed how to clean them today. So there you go. I mean, this is pretty much

[00:58:49] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:58:49] what we did is we, you know, basically Sean and I, we were exposed to the old, some of the older systems and said, that's great, but they're [00:59:00] not really in, in, um, as good as they should be for, uh, exercise at home or exercise by yourself.

[00:59:09] And so, uh, that's what we've tried to create.

[00:59:12] Carl Lanore: [00:59:12] Yeah. You don't need the guidance of a professional to show you how to put them on and all that sort of stuff. Aiden Ray has a question. Mark. What did I miss? Adan, did I miss your question? Let me say, I think we mentioned it about cleaning. Uh, I don't think I missed your question, brother.

[00:59:29] Oh, wait. Any data for or against using super slow. This is good weightlifting routine. The author Jones, Mike Metzner a thing and wearing be strong bands. Thanks for pointing that out. And that's a really good question.

[00:59:44] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [00:59:44] Yeah. You know, uh, this has not really been systematically evaluated with VFR devices. Um, but my initial impression or the thing I'll throw out there is that, um.

[00:59:58] Again, [01:00:00] be strong will amplify any particular kind of workout. So if you're expecting to get a nice pump and a nice, uh, hypertrophy from super slow weightlifting routines, uh, try it with the bands on and I think you'll, uh, be happy that it'll be even more.

[01:00:17] Carl Lanore: [01:00:17] I bet you have to lighten up to, I'll bet you, cause you've got, your muscles are gonna get fatigued so much faster.

[01:00:23] So much faster. Uh, I love these bands. I have them, uh, I believe in them. I know the science is sound. We talked about the science almost a decade ago on this show. Uh, and, and these are the best out there. There are a lot of people trying to get people to take advantage of blood flow restriction, and they're just selling them cheap elastic bands that a dangerous, they're dangerous.

[01:00:47] Uh, and, and, and on top of that, you're not going to keep using them because you end up, you're going to end up injured. This is the way to go if you're going to do it because you can't hurt yourself with these bands, you can only get stronger and bigger. [01:01:00] So check 'em out. Uh, again, be strong.training. You can go there if you want to buy the entire kit.

[01:01:06] Or even the personal training kit, using the code  or go to be strong.training/super hyphen human. If you want to take advantage of this ridiculous offer, uh, normally $288. Now to my audience only, this is not available anywhere else for one 99 and grow the guns that you've always wanted. Thanks for being here today, brother.

[01:01:30] Dr. James Stray-Gunderson, MD: [01:01:30] Thank

[01:01:31] Carl Lanore: [01:01:31] you. Okay. And we're going to take one quick commercial break and when we come back, I'm going to talk about something that I'm noticing and that is, are you getting crazy weather where you are? Is it like it's been freezing one night, raining for six days and six nights? I'm going to ask the question.

[01:01:48] Since coven 19 consumption of fossil fuels are down. And we already see some dramatic changes like ozone hole over Antarctica has completely closed [01:02:00] up and people are talking about the fact that even the CO2 emissions from China have dropped by over 25% why aren't we seeing the weather get better? Why are we seeing crazy weather?

[01:02:12] Could it be possible. That we need to see how to stay tuned. Gaynor, this is the superhuman channel where we use oxygen for the power of good.

[01:02:26] Welcome back. I'm going to make this short and sweet because it doesn't have to be the labor, so anybody thinking to themselves, man, the weather has been crazy lately, Mike. It's been raining nonstop here in Kentucky, and not only that, but so this week. We have two nights that there's a freeze warning. We had freeze warnings a week and a half ago.

[01:02:47] Um, cold cold air is coming down from North on us. Friends of mine who live in New York, a complaining my buddy Joey, it's like, it's [01:03:00] snowing again there. Normally it's already warmed up. The trees aren't blooming like they used to wild like they did last year. And people are saying, man, this weather is crazy.

[01:03:11] This weather is crazy. Now keep in mind that, uh, global warming, extreme weather, whatever you want to call it, climate change is, is being blamed on CO2 and CO2 is coming from fossil fuels. Now. Recently, the largest ozone hole over the North pole closed up, and some people are saying it has to do with the fact that Covin 19 and nobody's driving their cars.

[01:03:48] When you look at videos of streets, there's no cars. You look at highways just the other night they had on the news that police are concerned. Because since there's literally zero traffic on highways in [01:04:00] major cities, people are doing 90 and a hundred miles an hour. They think it's the Autobahn. So there's no cars there.

[01:04:06] The rate of, of a car usage has dropped dramatically as well as mass transit because people aren't traveling at all. They're, they're, they're, they're afraid to travel. Airlines are down, right? Airlines aren't flying. They've canceled tons and tons of flights because nobody's on the planes. Um. So this, uh, phenomenon with the ozone, uh, they're saying it may be due to covert 19 and the shutdown, it may not, but one thing is undeniable.

[01:04:37] No one's talking about this in the media, but we're seeing an unprecedented lack of pollution in major cities where pollution has been a problem. Los Angeles. Was just recently worst. We're ranked one of the best in pollution in the nation when they used to be the worst and pollution, [01:05:00] just that fast, just just from a couple couple months of people not driving.

[01:05:05] And on top of that, we know that China's production, uh, of, of a co two emissions has dropped by 25 to 30%. Um, now again, people from NASA who study the weather, they're saying they've never seen anything like this before. Okay. And, and so you can't deny it. You can't, like, this isn't like, Oh, yeah, maybe may, no.

[01:05:30] We really are seeing changes in pollution, changes in CO2 levels. At the same time, we're seeing the craziest weather in the world. Um, yeah, I'm going to read this. This is from NASA. Last month in the Northeast, NASA observed a 30% drop in air pollution, nitrogen dioxide compared to the same month a previous year ago.

[01:05:56] 30% that's huge. That's a big, big deal, right? Cause don't forget [01:06:00] like the green new deal is only supposed to reduce carbon emissions by like a few percent. This is a complete 30% drop. But yet are we seeing anything that says, Oh, look how great the weather would be if we weren't making all this CO2? If anything, we're seeing crazy weather.

[01:06:19] Now, some of you may say the weather isn't any crazier than last year. Or some of you are saying the weather has been really crazy this year compared to last year. I don't care which camp you're on. The bottom line is CO2 is down by 30% we're not seeing anything. We're either seeing crazy weather anyway or no changes in weather anyway.

[01:06:39] I don't care what side of the camp you're on. You could be on the side of the camp that says, Oh, well. Oh, CO2 isn't doing anything to the, to the weather. Well, that may be true because we're not seeing any changes in the weather from last year. I'm going to put two maps up in a minute. Or you could be one of these people who says, yeah, CO2 is the reason for this crazy weather, and it's down by [01:07:00] 30% we're still seeing crazy weather.

[01:07:03] So I'm, I'm not saying that. The lack of CO2 is contributing to the crazy weather or not contributing to the crazy weather. What I'm saying is, observationally, if you're a critical thinker, aren't you going, gee, this is weird. Like either we're supposed to see something or we're not supposed to see something, but 30% drop in CO2.

[01:07:24] Like that's, that is, that's like, that's like five times more or 10 times more. What the green new deal was supposed to do over the course of decades. We just did it over the course of two months. Previous car carbon brief analysis showed that the crisis temporarily cut CO2 emissions in China by 25%.

[01:07:45] Remember, they're the biggest, uh, uh, assaulter when it comes to global warming and the link to CO2 with the still below normal more than two months after the country entered lockdown. So it's been two months [01:08:00] that it's been like this two months. So I'm asking people. What do you think this means? Does it mean that there is no linkage between CO2 and climate change?

[01:08:14] Because it kind of looks that way to me. It really does. I'm going to show you with dozens more countries enforcing lockdown in response to the pandemic. A wide range of indicators show how transport use. Electric, electricity demand and industrial activities have been cut. Yet there have been few attempts to quantify the consequences.

[01:08:35] Why is that? Why aren't the people who study this? Why isn't Al Gore financing research to see what the implications of this w w we're never going to see this again. We're never going to see this again. We're in two to three months. We're seeing 30 25 30% of co two emissions just disappear. I mean you, you can enact the green new deal.

[01:08:57] We're not going to see this. It doesn't even ask for [01:09:00] these dramatic changes in co two levels. We're never going to see this again. Why aren't people studying this right now? So that's my first question. Maybe it's not in their best interest to point out that there's really no changes going on with this, this dramatic change, or maybe, I don't know, but it's a, it's a valid question.

[01:09:21] So look at these two, these two maps. I'm going to put them up here and I'm going to show show, and that's off. Let me just get these up here so everybody can see them. I got to get rid of that image. I'm doing this on people who are listening to go, what the hell is he talking about? So the map on the top is 2019 the map on the bottom is 2025 April.

[01:09:47] If you look at these maps, there's really not a lot different between last year. At this time. And this year, in the month of April. So let's go ahead and look at this one first 20, 20. I [01:10:00] mean, you see droughts, you see tornadoes and crazy amounts. You see changes in climate, high temperatures, low temperatures.

[01:10:08] When you go to, uh, the 2019 map, it's pretty much the same darn thing. I mean it's, you know, um, droughts in Hawaii, um, uh, weather, weather changes where some, some places tore the most snow, some places. So tornado activity, still pretty much the same, almost the same numbers down South. If you look at that and you look at the other ones side by side, so.

[01:10:37] Yeah. 140 versus two 40 it's, it's actually, it's actually better now. So tornadoes are better now. So that must be because of CO2, right? Nah, it's not. All I'm asking is why isn't anybody talking about this? Why isn't anybody talking about there really aren't any changes to the climate given the fact that we have had a 30% drop in co two [01:11:00] emissions over the course of two to three months and.

[01:11:04] I am not saying that it is predictive or it's not predictive of the climate this drop, but why isn't anyone talking about this? Why isn't anyone studying this? Why aren't there any meteorologists going, wow, we have an opportunity to really get some valuable data right now because we're never going to see a drop 30% carbon emissions on this planet again.

[01:11:27] I mean, hell, the ozone hole closed up right. Pollution is the lowest it's ever been in, in Los Angeles and places like that. And if we don't see dramatic changes in the weather, then why are we talking about co two and climate change? Why we could get answers to this if people really cared. So this is critical thinking.

[01:11:47] One Oh one. If you're paying attention, you have to ask these questions. And if you ask these questions, we have to have valid, uh, people in this, in the space of studying the weather, come out and answer them for us. [01:12:00] That's all I'm saying. That's it, but who am I? I'm just an idiot. Who wants to build muscle?

[01:12:04] I, that's it for today. Thank you for being here. Don't forget, check out. Be strong. Dot training and use the code SHR 20 for 20% off everything site-wide. However, if you just want the arm bands, go to be strong.training/super hyphen human. And you can get the armbands for almost a hundred dollars off and build the guns that you've always dreamed of having.

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