[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] hey, Hey, welcome back to another episode of super human radio. We have a great show planned three topics we're going to cover today. The first we're going to talk about why transdermal delivery of CBD is probably a much more appropriate method when dealing with pain relief. Uh, during the first hour, we're going to be talking to Chris Zika from planet earth CBD.

[00:00:22] They are a sponsor of the show and they have a remarkable product. And I keep it right here because you never know when training is going to get me. Dan, we're going to talk about a little spoken about fact. I actually talked about this three months ago, but it's becoming even more important today. That is we can not stop the spread of COVID-19.

[00:00:46] We can slow it, but we can't stop it. So is slowing it really a good idea. If the inevitable is it has to run through the population for us to develop herd immunity. We're going to talk about that. And then [00:01:00] lo and behold science is starting to get it about. Intermittent fasting about ketones. A study was just published that shows that using a fasting mimicking diet in concert with S blockade therapy may actually help women get better from breast cancer faster and stay better.

[00:01:21] And this is actually a topic we talked about a long time ago. Um, Not for breast cancer, but, uh, chemo and Quito. And that sounds good chemo and Quito people who were on the keto diet when they went in for chemotherapy fared much better. Uh, the recidivism rate was much lower with the return of the cancers, uh, and they didn't get as sick from the chemotherapy.

[00:01:44] So information is starting to get out there. Uh, we want to bang that drum as much as possible. First we have to thank our title sponsor. Who, without their support of the show, the show wouldn't go on. And that is legendary foods. Uh, we just did a show with [00:02:00] Shannon pent-up who contributes a great deal of her talents in the kitchen, to the development of their nut butters.

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[00:03:05] Chris Zecha: [00:03:05] Doing well for yourself?

[00:03:07] Carl Lanore: [00:03:07] Very good. Very good. And this is a very interesting discussion today. Um, It's one that I've anticipated having for a long time, to be honest with you, it probably dates back at least a few years, maybe four or five years when I stumbled upon a patent by the CDC before the use of CBD.

[00:03:26] Okay. Okay. Can I have a dial for pain management? And it became very obvious to me that this could be a very, very good. Approach for people who have chronic pain or even periodic pain from training too hard, that sort of thing. Uh, and, but, but it didn't always play out well because orally delivered CBD has some real challenges.

[00:03:49] And then there's the whole discussion of like, why do I want to deliver this systemically when it's just my elbow that hurts. Uh, so obviously your company [00:04:00] planet earth CBD. Uh, probably saw this, uh, reality and decided to create a transdermal patch. Uh, why, why did you guys even get into the CBD business?

[00:04:11] Anyway? It seems like it's exploding. Uh, I mean every place you go, somebody selling CBD, even at, you know, grammar school, bake sales, somebody has a, you know, a bottle of CBD for sell why'd. You guys even want to throw your hat in this ring.

[00:04:25] Chris Zecha: [00:04:25] It's very true. There is a lot of people in the market, so it has to do, it's a combination of both Jason, my CEO's experiences, as well as myself.

[00:04:33] Uh, Jason has pain and he was taking medications and it just wasn't doing it for him. Uh, myself, I'm a former  college athlete and I've. Sustained a number of injuries throughout my career. And as I'm getting older now, uh, you kind of feel the aches and pains that come along with it through, uh, when it started, the weather starts turning, it starts getting a little rainy out, you get those aches and [00:05:00] pains and from those old injuries.

[00:05:01] So Jason and I decided to go ahead and. Search and try to find the best ingredients out there that we could to relieve the pain that we were feeling. And, uh, along our studies, we came across the CBD and we looked for other ingredients out there. Uh, and we came up with these great formulas that are through a patch as well as a topical cream.

[00:05:24] And with those two, Jason, I decided, Hey, if we're. Two people that know each other and we're having these pains. There's gotta be a ton of other people out there that are experiencing the same things we are. So we decided to launch planters CBD.

[00:05:38] Carl Lanore: [00:05:38] So there are numerous studies out there that show that topically applied, um, CBD.

[00:05:44] Uh, actually not only can make pain disappear quickly, but make it stay away. But the problem with the creams is you, you put it on. It works for awhile, but it doesn't necessarily work longterm. And [00:06:00] that is kind of like where the transdermal patch match really has some advantages, right? Because you, you have a slow infusion, a slow continuous infusion.

[00:06:09] In fact, your patch advertises, you know, up to 48 hours of delivery on one patch. That's one of the really great things about the patch.

[00:06:18] Chris Zecha: [00:06:18] Isn't it? It is. So like you were saying, the cream is a temporary relief and the cream is actually great. I use the cream, uh, for some of the areas I spend a lot, uh, such as my knee, I had a bad knee injury and the patches a little hard, if you have a very good use of, but I'm a little area in the Lake, so it does a 60 well to the hair.

[00:06:39] Um, but the cream works for that to temporary leaf. With you saying with the patches is absolutely correct. We have, uh, all these studies that we've done that. Give a constant delivery, a targeted delivery for 24 to 48 hours. So you get that constant release and you get the pain relief for that extended period of time.

[00:06:58] Carl Lanore: [00:06:58] Now the patch is pretty [00:07:00] big, right? I mean, it's, it's, it's a, I want to say it's almost three inches by three inches or four inches by four inches. Right? It's

[00:07:08] Chris Zecha: [00:07:08] a, I believe three and a half by three and a half.

[00:07:10] Carl Lanore: [00:07:10] Okay. So I was, I was right in the middle and so, yeah, I know I I'm really good at, uh, well, anyway, so the, the, uh, cook couldn't couldn't I cut the patch in fours.

[00:07:21] If I wanted to just put it right here, like I said, um, radial, uh, brachial, radiologists tendonitis, right from heavy polling or something like that. Couldn't I cut that patch in four and just stick a small, the smaller piece here and deliver less, but to a smaller concentrated area.

[00:07:37] Chris Zecha: [00:07:37] Yeah, absolutely. You could cut the patch up into as many as you want and you could use it for smaller targeted areas.

[00:07:43] And I also get the same delivery

[00:07:46] Carl Lanore: [00:07:46] throughout that because a lot of people like I did you play baseball?

[00:07:50] Chris Zecha: [00:07:50] I play soccer.

[00:07:51] Carl Lanore: [00:07:51] Okay. So there are certain injuries in certain sports, like in baseball, it's very common to jam your thumb. And [00:08:00] if you jam your thumb, if you've ever had this type of an injury, you know, this is an injury that does not resolve quickly.

[00:08:06] It'll keep, it could last five, six, seven months. And every time you even gently tap the thumb, it, it flares back up. And I almost see like taking the patch and cutting it to just fit over the, over the joint exclusively. So that could be done with this patch, right. Yes,

[00:08:22] Chris Zecha: [00:08:22] absolutely. I wish I would have known that about six years ago, I had a skiing incident where I dislocated my thumb and it would have been great for that.

[00:08:29] Like you were saying, I had that pain for about three, four months after the injury. So it would have been great to have back then.

[00:08:37] Carl Lanore: [00:08:37] It's not a pain that resolves quickly. I found out all too often. You can find that out too. If you ever throw a punch and you have your thumb out. And you land the punch and the thumb absorb some of the shock of the punch.

[00:08:48] And then that, that, that knuckle will hurt for five, six, seven months. Yeah. At a time. Um, so you said that about you talking about hair. So obviously if you're a hairy [00:09:00] person and you're not willing to shave the area, the cream is, is a better alternative, right? Correct.

[00:09:06] Chris Zecha: [00:09:06] And we have, uh, the cream, it works amazing.

[00:09:09] I was so shocked when we came up and we were doing all the different lab tests and, uh, kind of tweaking the formula to try to get the best results we could possibly get. And it started off. And the first batch we created was amazing. I was like, This is better than anything I've ever tried on the market.

[00:09:25] And it just kept getting better and better until we came and we perfected it to exactly where it is now. And I liked the cream, like I said, for my knee. Uh, I use it, uh, probably two to three times a week to help with the knee pain and the patch I actually use on my lower back. I have a lot of lower back pain.

[00:09:43] So I do use the patch on my lower back and my upper neck.

[00:09:46] Carl Lanore: [00:09:46] So like L four L five S one kind of pain that down there. Yeah. And well, how did you sustain that type of an injury? What happened? Uh,

[00:09:56] Chris Zecha: [00:09:56] bad. I have no idea. I wish I could tell you. It's kind of, I think it's [00:10:00] bent over wrong one day and. The backs are going.

[00:10:03] Carl Lanore: [00:10:03] Yeah, no. Okay. We have a question that kind of is a good question for us to ask up front too. I can't see this Facebook user's name because your security settings do not allow it to pass through to our, um, our video platform. So I would appreciate it if you do, if you're still watching live, if you will post your name so I can, uh, correctly attribute the question to you.

[00:10:26] Um, This is a really important question, not only for the CBD category, but we see this in supplement industry as well. We know that there's a lot of people out there who don't meet label claims. They don't put the actual active ingredients that they claim. Now your patch has a, what I would consider a whopping dose, 40 milligrams is a fairly high dose of CBD.

[00:10:47] A lot of orals only deliver five milligrams per dose. Um, and so this person is asking. What do you say about products out there that don't have enough active ingredients? [00:11:00] First of all, that the first question they just don't work. Right.

[00:11:04] Chris Zecha: [00:11:04] Yeah. So if you're not putting it up active ingredients into a product, you're not going to get the results that you're looking for.

[00:11:10] Someone could put five milligrams, 10 milligrams inside a patch and say, Hey, this is the patch that you're getting, but you're not going to get the results and plan to receive PD. What we decided was, Hey, 40 milligrams is where we were feeling that the best results were coming from and you're getting the best relief they could possibly get.

[00:11:27] So we decided to go with 40 milligrams if someone's not putting enough actives in, you're not going to get the results you're looking

[00:11:32] Carl Lanore: [00:11:32] for. How do you know? So how does the consumer know there's really 40 milligrams in your patch? You guys go to third party testing of your patches or anything like that.

[00:11:40] Chris Zecha: [00:11:40] Absolutely. Uh, each of our locks is third party tested, uh, to make sure that we are hitting label claims and that everything is THC free. So that, uh, if you are getting drug tested, you're not popping on a test.

[00:11:54] Carl Lanore: [00:11:54] Uh, which that's a good point. So this is THC free. There is a, there's a movement [00:12:00] out there that's claiming.

[00:12:01] That without THC, you just don't see the pain relief that people expect. And it really could be, you know, this is, this is where the water gets murky. Right. So if you have a company that's not really putting the active ingredients into the product, regardless of the delivery system. And then some people say it just doesn't work for me.

[00:12:21] Well, they'll blame it on well, it's because there's no THC in it. We can, we don't put THC in it. Um, does THC play a role in the. Analgesic effects of CBD at all

[00:12:34] Chris Zecha: [00:12:34] from the studies I've seen, uh, you, aren't going to get the results from a product that has zero THC. And I felt the effects of myself. I use the patches, I use our cream, which are both THC free.

[00:12:48] Um, but there is stuff out there. That's saying that if you do have a Mount small amounts of THC inside the product, that it's going to be a boosted effects of it, um, I'm not really a big [00:13:00] fan of the THC. Um, I know that the FDA,

[00:13:04] Carl Lanore: [00:13:04] you have one of those motion sensing light, light savers. I hate when they put those in bathrooms.

[00:13:11] And you're like you're sitting there and all of a sudden the lights go out, like, what are you supposed to do? Stand up and dance now. Oh yeah.

[00:13:17] Chris Zecha: [00:13:17] Yeah, of course, around that, I ended up going to my house. I started walking around my house with my hand as I walked through the door and my wife's like, what are you doing?

[00:13:24] Carl Lanore: [00:13:24] Trying to collect it.

[00:13:25] Chris Zecha: [00:13:25] Yeah. That's uh, but the CBD, uh, you, you do see some studies out there. It's kind of, like you said, murky waters, there's studies that show that it does boost the effectiveness of the CBD there's studies out there showing that it doesn't. So it, it. I'm not really sure. I feel the effectiveness without the THC, with our two products.

[00:13:44] And, uh, we decided what, without that

[00:13:47] Carl Lanore: [00:13:47] talk about the effect of this from your standpoint, you've used it, like when you, when you, where do you use the patch generally, or do you always use the creams only? I

[00:13:56] Chris Zecha: [00:13:56] use a combination of

[00:13:57] Carl Lanore: [00:13:57] both. Do you use the patch for you? The [00:14:00] Patrick

[00:14:00] Chris Zecha: [00:14:00] is on my lower back and up in my neck.

[00:14:02] Um, sometimes I'll wake up in the morning, you just sleep wrong and you get that knot on the side of the neck. And you're getting that robbing up to your head and get a headache. Uh, for me, I just throw the patch on up here and, you know, a couple of minutes, maybe 15 minutes, you start feeling effects and the headache goes away.

[00:14:22] Um, my lower back, like I mentioned, I, it kind of comes and goes, uh, bend over one day and. Got the lower back pain. Sometimes I'll be out golfing, swing a little weird or funny and get a little bit back pain and a nice throw. The Patrick, I keep in my car and I just go to my car and just throw it on for the cream.

[00:14:42] I use the cream on my knee and my ankle, and the reason I use it on my ankles as a soccer player, I came to count the number of injuries I've had on my ankles. Um, But I've split tendons strained, like men's virtual humans, all that fun stuff. [00:15:00] So I kind of used that when the weather's learned to turn, I started feeling that achiness and I use a Fremont on my ankles and my knee.

[00:15:07] Carl Lanore: [00:15:07] So here's an interesting question. Uh, Alisa, who is, uh, the show's executive producer, uh, has a friend named Cynthia who asked this question. She couldn't watch live today. Does the patch or cream work for plantar fasciitis asking for a friend who couldn't listen live? Uh,

[00:15:31] Chris Zecha: [00:15:31] I'm not sure. Uh, like I said, I'm not a doctor, so I wouldn't say, you know, it's going to definitely work or not.

[00:15:37] Um, With the pain, I would say he would probably work and relieve that pain, but, uh, I'm not a hundred percent sure. And definitely contact the physician that you use and see what their Philips are. It would be always my, my best recommendation for any of that.

[00:15:52] Carl Lanore: [00:15:52] No, it's fasciitis is an interesting injury.

[00:15:54] It's a soft tissue injury, um, of the, uh, [00:16:00] ligament that runs up and attaches to the gastrocnemius muscle in the calf. And what happens is classic plantar fasciitis is when you've done it, things like stretching. Let's say, let's say you're somebody who likes to get on the stairs and really let your heels sink, or you're somebody who likes to do very, very heavy.

[00:16:22] This is how I gave it to myself. I was doing extremely heavy toe presses, and I was letting this, my, the weight really stretch me at the bottom and then pushing out of it. The soft tissue starts to pull away from the bone that attaches at the bottom of the heel. So if this is your foot, it runs this way and attaches at the bottom of the Hill.

[00:16:40] The soft tissue starts to pull the bone grows out to stay attached. So plantar fasciitis actually can be triggered by a single event, but it's already in the making for a period of time. So what ends up happening is these. These spurs as what is what they [00:17:00] are. They start to dig into the soft tissue and they tear the soft tissue, but the soft tissue never completely heals.

[00:17:09] This is very common with soft tissue. Uh, w we get tendonitis and our elbow, you know, either whether inside or outside, depending on whether it's polling or, or, you know, a tennis elbow or whatever. And. What happens is these micro tears never completely heal. So every day you reinjure, this is this an original injury.

[00:17:34] If people who have plantar fasciitis will tell you, I'm fine. As long as I'm up and moving around, I go to sleep at night and I'm fine. I wake up in the morning and I can hardly walk. And those that first half hour they're literally. Retiring scar tissue that formed overnight. And, and so this is a, this is a very interesting injury.

[00:17:55] I have to believe as an analgesic and a pain reliever, the [00:18:00] cream would be better than the patch because you can rub it all over the heel and up the back, the, the, the leg and down into the, into the, the, uh, uh, not the end step, but the arch and so on. And it'll give you. Temporary relief. But the only thing that fixes plants as fasciitis is to get the body, to pay attention to the original injury longer than just for one day, like when you sleep, but start the heel.

[00:18:24] And then the next day it's not continuing to heal. You're tearing it up again. So you just keep reinjuring yourself day in and day out. The thing that works best. Is either prolotherapy where they take a hard object and they literally just kind of really keep re-injured and you know what? Prolotherapy is, a lot of athletes use it, right.

[00:18:42] They'll use it for shoulder problems and they, they get in there with things that look like knives and stuff like that. What I found works when I had it. We happened to take the kids to Florida for spring break. And I was so aggravated, waking up every morning with pain in my heel, it [00:19:00] was extreme shading that I went down barefoot, walked on the beach and I went down towards the seashore where the sand was harder.

[00:19:09] And I started jogging and driving my heel into the sand. Like driving it. I was so pissed off. Like I was trying to, I don't know. I was angry at my heel. The next day it was gone. The next day was completely gone. The sand molded itself to my heel. And it did the same thing that prolotherapy does where you're kind of reinjuring and reinjuring and getting the body to go.

[00:19:33] We got to fix that. It's it's really messed up right now and that made it go away completely. But I have to believe for temporary relief. I got to believe the cream would work. I really don't. You're not fixing the problem. You're just going to get rid of the pain and you'd have to put it on first thing in the morning before you got out of bed, because that's usually the only time people experience pain with plantar fasciitis is when they either they've been sitting for a long time and they [00:20:00] get out of the car, like maybe they took a three, four hour ride to get out of the car or they wake up in the morning and they start walking.

[00:20:06] What about, um, Allergic reactions to the patch. Are there any issues with people using them and breaking out in rashes or anything like that? They haven't

[00:20:15] Chris Zecha: [00:20:15] had any, uh, issues with anyone that broken out from the patches or the cream. Okay.

[00:20:22] Carl Lanore: [00:20:22] Um, we're going to take a quick commercial break. So to the people who are listening, you can actually try this product for as little as $14 and 99 cents.

[00:20:32] And you can actually get it shipped to you for free. Uh, each patch contains 40 milligrams of CBD. You'll get relief for up to 48 hours for 1499. You can get a patch, they'll ship it to you for free and you can try it. And if it works for you, then you can buy a larger quantity, including up to a box of seven, which is like $64.

[00:20:53] I think it's still free shipping. So it was a good way for you to try it out. Am I right about those numbers? Did I get that? Yeah, [00:21:00] that's correct. Okay. So it's a good way for you to try it and see if it's going to work for you. And, you know, again, don't be afraid to cut the patch in half and use it on a smaller area.

[00:21:11] If you have a small joint, that is the problem. You may not need the whole 40 milligrams, uh, to do the job and you can experiment with that. We're going to take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back with more of superhuman radio. Stay tuned. Brain with it. You'll gain with it. This is the superhuman channel where we use oxygen for the power of good.

[00:21:35] Welcome back. We're talking with Chris Sacca. We're talking about his company, planet earth CBD. They make an amazing, uh, transdermal patch and a topical cream. If that's your thing, uh, that will allow you to manage pain. Very very simply. And obviously without the real threats that a lot of other adults may have a name, opioids and stuff like that, that [00:22:00] people get hooked on.

[00:22:01] Um, in fact, a lot of the pressure against CBD has come from the pharmaceutical industry because they don't want people to have access to it. You know, the States that have legalized cannabis, they are seeing challenges from big pharma because in those States, Uh, opioid prescriptions have dropped by 50% and that's bad for profits.

[00:22:23] Uh, but the state that don't have legalized cannabis, they have something else available. And that is, uh, CBD cannabidiol, which, uh, has very powerful analgesic effects. Uh, is everything that you guys do, uh, in target you get it towards pain relief or, or no.

[00:22:41] Chris Zecha: [00:22:41] No. So we have the patches and the cream, which is targeted towards pain relief.

[00:22:46] And then kind of going back to your question earlier about Jason and myself, uh, uh, how we came across this after we came and develop her pain, uh, I wanted to get into the sports nutrition side of things. Cause it's something I didn't really see out [00:23:00] there. Uh, so we. Create a pre-workout post-workout that both contain CBD protein.

[00:23:06] We have a sleep formula. It's a soft gel form that. Um, my wife actually uses, she she's in love with it. Uh, she has some trouble sleeping. She takes that before. And the great thing about that is with the CBD, with the melatonin. Usually if you just take regular melatonin, you wake up, you get you're very groggy to CBD, actually counteracts the melatonin.

[00:23:28] You don't get that grogginess feel in the morning. Um, we have gummies. A couple other products as well that are out there. So we kind of expanded off of the pain

[00:23:38] Carl Lanore: [00:23:38] as well. What's the magic between using CBD for sleep? Uh, if I take CBD right before bed, I find that I can't fall asleep. Is that because I'm taking too large of a dose or should I be taking it earlier?

[00:23:49] What's the magic. I

[00:23:51] Chris Zecha: [00:23:51] probably taking too much of a dose. So ours is a, it's kind of a meal and melatonin, and those are the [00:24:00] driving factors for the sleep aid. The CBD is a small milligram amount and that's just to help reduce that grogginess in the morning, I get the calmness for your body.

[00:24:12] Carl Lanore: [00:24:12] And I would imagine that having a mild analgesic effect, uh, probably helps a lot of people who suffer from pains as you age that could impair your sleep or your ability to stay in deep sleep.

[00:24:23] Correct. Very nice. You know, this is such a competitive market today. You know, uh, everybody and anybody is trying to get into the CBD business right now. Um, why, why, why is CBD become so popular? What's the mystique about it? What's the sexiness about it? I mean, why, why is everyone trying to do CBD right now?

[00:24:48] Uh,

[00:24:48] Chris Zecha: [00:24:48] so I would say it's the hot thing. You have everyone out there that's looking to reduce pain. Uh, pain management is probably one of the biggest topics you have. Um, A [00:25:00] lot of P a lot of them populations in pain. So you have a lot of people looking to reduce that, and they also have stress and anxiety that people are looking to overcome.

[00:25:07] And that's something that CBD helps with as well. So those two things, as well, as other factors, such as, you know, getting to sleep, uh, helping boost, uh, your focus for a, a workout, uh, I would say, everyone's just trying to jump in and help out as much as I

[00:25:28] Carl Lanore: [00:25:28] can. Have you seen the recent research about, uh, the possibility of cannabidiol being used to treat a COVID-19, uh, cytokine storm?

[00:25:39] You know, when you get this virus, it's not the virus that kills you. It's the immune system's overreaction to the virus that causes widespread inflammation that destroys tissue in your body. And there's a lot of things that have the ability to kind of, uh, Cytokine in the body and I guess, uh, uh, CBD is [00:26:00] one of them.

[00:26:00] Have you seen that study? I'm just curious.

[00:26:02] Chris Zecha: [00:26:02] I have not seen that study. I knew about the federal form, but I didn't, I did not use study related to CBD.

[00:26:07] Carl Lanore: [00:26:07] Yeah. So what do you know about the cytokine, uh, quieting effects of CBD? In general.

[00:26:14] Chris Zecha: [00:26:14] I do know that CBD helps with inflammation. And like you're saying that the COVID-19 has the huge influx of inflammation.

[00:26:21] And, uh, I'm guessing for the study that the CBD will help reduce that inflammation and it gives the patient more success rate.

[00:26:29] Carl Lanore: [00:26:29] Yeah. Now that I think at least is trying to get the authors of that study, um, on, on the show. What what, so, so since there's this influx of so many companies getting into the CBD space, what makes a planet earth different?

[00:26:43] Why should people pay attention to what, what you guys are doing?

[00:26:48] Chris Zecha: [00:26:48] We're very transparent with everything. We're not trying to hide anything. Like some of the other companies are we're very open, transparent, uh, We test all of our products for finished product testing. So quality [00:27:00] and, uh, is very important to us.

[00:27:03] Uh, we qualify all of our raw material suppliers, making sure that they are providing the highest quality increases. It means they're sustainable and we're making sure throughout the manufacturing process that we're following everything to the T. We are, uh, NSF certified, uh, falling old good manufacturing practices.

[00:27:21] And we post all of our certificates. Alice's for third party testing right on the web. So if anyone's interested in all right, I want to see how this test it out. They could go right online, click the drop down and they'll see the results. And we test every single lot that we do. Uh, some of the companies out there you're not going to see that you're going to kind of be in the dark as far as what you're getting.

[00:27:43] Is it potent? Is it when you're saying, getting, is there THC inside of it? Is there an acceptable amount of THC? Is it over the FDA limit? Um, we're following everything by the book. We're making sure that we're providing high quality ingredients to all of our consumers.

[00:27:59] Carl Lanore: [00:27:59] Elisa just [00:28:00] pointed out that the researchers on that CBD, uh, COVID a cytokine storm.

[00:28:06] Study a coming on the show and on August 12th to approximately 20 days from now. Uh, so we'll get into that. So if someone is interested in localized pain management, the patch and the cream would be predicted, uh, or, or dictated, I should say, but if they're looking for a systemic effects of CBD, you have a protein powder.

[00:28:31] That is it made from, from, from hemp.

[00:28:35] Chris Zecha: [00:28:35] Yeah. So we have a protein powder. It's a, it's a concentrate, whey protein concentrate, whey protein, isolate casein. It's got, uh, some have been it, uh, and it's, it's a very good formula. And the one thing is it tastes great. It's a vanilla flavor. And that was kind of the factor which led us to do with the vanilla protein was.

[00:28:57] You, you take some proteins out there, you get the very protein [00:29:00] tastes. It doesn't really sit well in the stomach. We added digestive enzymes into it to help break down the stomach. So you're not getting that bloat or the gaseous from it. And it tastes amazing. It's a vanilla cake. It, and it's something out there that will give you that longterm effect.

[00:29:16] That you're

[00:29:17] Carl Lanore: [00:29:17] what is, what is it sweetened with? Uh,

[00:29:20] Chris Zecha: [00:29:20] it's got sucralose in it as well as some other natural and artificial flavorings. Right.

[00:29:26] Carl Lanore: [00:29:26] Okay. Yeah. So, so it's not sugar, it's not a sugar ladened protein powder, right?

[00:29:31] Chris Zecha: [00:29:31] Yeah. Yeah. It's not up there in a, in the sugars.

[00:29:34] Carl Lanore: [00:29:34] Okay. Okay. Um, what do you want people to take away from this interview?

[00:29:40] About first of all, I want people to take away the fact that you guys are a sponsor and the sponsors make this show possible. And while there's people out there who are going to get, I had a comment from somebody one day. Oh, I thought this show was about science. After we did a sponsor spotlight. It's like, there's a lot of people out there living with pain.

[00:30:00] [00:29:59] Uh, we vet sponsors that have quality products. Dan Kopecky, doesn't just let anybody come on this show nor do I, and. As a result of that, we want to put forth our sponsor's product, because we already know that these companies are legit. I had one company that wasn't legit in 14 years and I kicked them off.

[00:30:19] Right. Did the second round of advertising told him he couldn't advertise? Well, actually two, two, I take that back. One was a, a protein company and. The, the reality is that yeah, we promote our sponsors because they have products that are solutions for our listeners, but also to let people know that if you do enjoy the other 90% of the content, that's about research, like the authors of the study we're going to have on, on, on, uh, CBD and COVID, you know, patronize the sponsors.

[00:30:49] So. One of the things I always try to tell people is, you know, whenever possible, patronize the sponsors, try the patch out, go to a planet earth, [00:31:00] uh, it's planet earth cbd.com. Right. Let's see here, hold on a second. Planet planet earth cbd.com. Yeah. And get the patch for 1499, including shipping. It's a big patch.

[00:31:14] It's a big patch. It's a patch. You're doing your whole backyard. I could see sticking this to your back. Right. But if you're not doing your whole back, I could see cutting it in half half and doing an elbow with it. Um, it's a whopping dose, 40 milligrams as a whopping dose compared to what's out there too.

[00:31:31] And give it a try. And if it makes your pain go away, I want to hear from you. I want you to email me at, on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. because. One of the things I like to do when we have a sponsor that has a product that you can actually tell is working, is I like to get the listeners to email me and say, you know, I tried it at work or I tried it, it didn't work.

[00:31:53] I don't care. I'm not only fishing for one, one side of the story. Uh, but it's a great product. [00:32:00] And I know two people I gave it to that are using it. I don't really have like joint pain where I'm going to use this. If I did, I would slap it on like, If I injured myself at the gym tomorrow and I had some real muscle soreness.

[00:32:12] I'd slap this John in a second. I wouldn't take a seat of manifesto. I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take an INSEAD. It actually halts the protein synthetic response from the workout. What good is it? I just do the whole workout in the garbage because my elbow hurts and I took this pill. I'd rather use something localized.

[00:32:30] That's going to deliver an analgesic effect just to today, the area and especially something like this that doesn't inhibit. M and the protein synthetic response. But, uh, the reality is that the, our sponsors make the show possible. They, we bring good products and we ask that you try them. And then I w I want feedback from the audience.

[00:32:49] So please on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it., I'd love to hear from you. You can get the patch for 49 and includes shipping. Give it, yeah. Try and let me know. [00:33:00] Um, You have any new products that you're kind of keeping close to the vest right now that you'll be leading with soon?

[00:33:07] Chris Zecha: [00:33:07] Uh, as of right now, we are focusing on the products that we have.

[00:33:11] Uh, we have a different flavor, protein in the works. Uh, it is a cinnamon flavor. It's a nice cream, so that that's in the works right now. We're trying to get the flavoring down. I'm not happy where. With where it is right now, as far as the flavoring, we're getting pretty close to us. So a new flavor of the protein will be coming out shortly.

[00:33:32] Carl Lanore: [00:33:32] Okay. We're going to take one last commercial break. Stay with us. We'll be right back. To learn more and save 25% off. You are listening to the superhuman channel we're ripped and we're ready.

[00:33:48] Welcome back. We have a question from a live viewer. We're going to get to later in the show, I'm going to talk about why we can't wait out COVID-19 and really, is there a better way to handle [00:34:00] this? And then a new study that shows that. Uh, fasting in combination, right? With the estrogen blockade, uh, maybe a better way to treat breast cancer.

[00:34:10] Talk about that in a little while. I'm talking today with, uh, Chris Zeca from planet or cbd.com about their topical patch and Joe, as irrele says, um, sorry. I came to the podcast late. Would the patch work for arthritic hand pain?

[00:34:30] Chris Zecha: [00:34:30] Yes, it would work for that. Uh, and kind of look you've mentioned earlier, Carl, if you do cut that patch up, you're able to wrap it around some of the bends kind of like a bandaid and it will help out with that pain, how you use it with my grandmother. Uh, she was always complaining about the pain in her hand and she, she uses it almost every day.

[00:34:48] Carl Lanore: [00:34:48] Yeah, it makes sense. And the meet the Pat, Joe, the patch is huge. I mean, there's three and a half inches by three and a half inches it's upside down. And, uh, so like you could cut it into two, two [00:35:00] wider strips, like bandaids and wrap it around the joints that are causing the problem. And you know, maybe you, maybe you wrap it around three or four joints.

[00:35:09] So you've got like three of them on at the same time, each feeding. The analgesic and antiinflammatory effects of the CBD. Just to those joints, I predict in 10 to 15 minutes, your hand won't hurt. I'd like to hear it to Joe, if you use it. Um, again, I'm going to put the special backup. This is for my audience.

[00:35:30] Um, you can go to planet earth cbd.com. Where's that there it is. Okay, here we go. Planet earth cbd.com. Uh, it's 40 milligrams of CBD per patch. You get up to four 48 hours of relief from it and starting at 1499 and free shipping. Bring, give it a test drive, see what you find out. Uh, I predict that you will see some results from it.

[00:35:59] And of [00:36:00] course, thank you for watching Joe and he's thanking us. And thank you. Thank you for watching the show today. Um, I think we've covered the ground. Pretty good here. I don't think we can, you know why I don't want to be labor this stuff. It's, it's a good product. People should give it a try. And again, I'd like to hear from people who use it.

[00:36:17] I want to thank you for being here, Chris. I know you kind of had to fall in last minute to do the show. You weren't really the guy that was supposed to do it. Uh, we'll have Jason on I'm sure. When he's back in town.

[00:36:30] Chris Zecha: [00:36:30] Yeah. Thank you for your time.

[00:36:31] Carl Lanore: [00:36:31] Yeah. Take care of yourself and we'll, we'll talk again soon.

[00:36:34] Okay. I, we're going to take a little break here in a minute, but before we do that, um, I want to talk about a couple things.

[00:36:43] As long as we're talking about sponsors. Um, number one, we have a product called DHM. I did a show about it a month or so ago. It's the hangover drug. And it works. So [00:37:00] most of you know that I like to have a drink from time to time, not often, but when I do drink, I drink. It's not just one, you know, I'm a, I'm a three or four Negroni kind of guy.

[00:37:11] They're very powerful drinks. We went to a party at a friend's house recently and, uh, I started drinking tequila. Don't ask me why it was a good quality tequila. And, um, I had like a little bit of a, uh, unsweetened margarita mix. I would put a little bit in the glass, some ice, and then I pour the tequila in and we estimate that I drank 16 ounces of tequila.

[00:37:35] I took one DHM when we got there. And I took one when we got home before I went to bed and the next morning I woke up and I was astonished because that much tequila would make me feel pretty horrible for a day or two. I went to the gym the next morning. I felt great. This stuff is real. You're like me.

[00:37:54] And if you want to enjoy life and for you, part of the joy of life is maybe having [00:38:00] a glass of wine or two on a Friday or Saturday night with your wife. Or going out with friends and laughing and throwing down some beers or a couple hard mixed drinks. And you don't want to feel the toxic effects of that.

[00:38:16] In fact, I wish the company, uh, that is now offering it on our show, which is, um, let me see here. Pure nootropics. I wish somebody would do. Uh, some research, you know, we know that alcohol can actually blunt the protein, synthetic response to weight training. I would love to find out if taking DHM. So you train that morning, you drink that evening.

[00:38:46] You take your DHM, you bookmark bookend it, right? You, you, you take it before you drink. And then when you come home, if you still have the same protein, synthetic response to the workout, I have a funny feeling. It's going to be yes. That you [00:39:00] will, but this stuff is legit. If you're like me and you like to have a drink and you just don't want to feel like crap for two days afterwards, you got to get a bottle of the DHM, um, from pure nootropics.

[00:39:12] Uh, there are sponsored there's banner ads on the website for that. And I promise you that if you use it, you will thank me because you won't feel like crap the day after being out drinking. Oh, it's really, really good stuff. The other thing I want to. Bring to your attention is we have a sauna sponsor for the first time.

[00:39:33] I've been trying to get a sauna sponsor forever. Dan Capiche. He found one, I have a sauna in my home and right now the sauna at the gym is closed. But my routine usually is after I train, every time I train, I get in the sauna, I get a good sweat going. I jump in an ice cold shower and I, and I head out sauna is an amazing thing.

[00:39:56] It's actually an exercise mimetic sitting in the sauna [00:40:00] conveys a lot of the same benefits. She's doing cardio to the heart cardiovascular system, to the blood vessels. And so on. Uh, sweating is an important part of detoxification, the benefits of songs. And I have been around for a thousand years. In fact, when I visited Israel, um, 14, 15, 16 years ago when I, I visited Israel 16 years ago, um, We went to Masada, which is the mountaintop where the whole Passover, the Passover, the whole, uh, Hanukkah thing started, um, the Maccabees were the zealots.

[00:40:39] They were, they were fighting against a King Herod King Herod wanted to kill them because. They followed their religion and not him. And so King Herod had built this, uh, this fortress on this mountain top called Masada and it had everything he needed because he was always paranoid that [00:41:00] somebody was going to try to kill him someday, including his son.

[00:41:01] He had his own son killed because he thought his son was gonna kill, kill him to take over his, his, uh, his kingdom. Well, the Maccabees, they went to Masada and they used his fortress to protect themselves from him and the Romans. And they lived up there for a long time and then eventually they did get captured and killed.

[00:41:23] Um, but the reality is that King Herod had. What was tantamount to honestly, steam room built thousands of years, years ago on that mountaintop. I saw it. So they had a room and the room had a second wall and the second wall was white. There was a lot of space and they had people in there. With big pots of water that they were boiling.

[00:41:53] And there were holes in the wall so that the steam could flow in the whole room was beautiful tile work. I mean the [00:42:00] tower work they did back then thousands of years ago, it was amazing. So we have known about the benefits of extreme heat and exposing the body to extreme eat for thousands of years, that it's healthy.

[00:42:11] Well now with COVID-19, nobody can use this is because they're all at the gyms, the health spas, and they've got those closed. Well, right now, now good health sauna is offering to my audience not only 25% off, but 18 months interest free financing. You can put an infrared sauna. That sits to four, even six people in your home and have it in there by next week.

[00:42:40] If you go to the website Su-Preme radio.net and click any of the podcast pages, you'll see banner ads for good health sauna, uh, or you can go to good health sauna.com. I believe that's their website. I wasn't prepared to talk about this today, but just go to the superior radio.net and look for that banner ad.

[00:42:58] There, that's probably the best way, [00:43:00] but my audience has an exclusive offer. Not available anywhere else in the country. 25% off their entire inventory. Plus 18 months interest free financing. This is amazing. If you want to, if you have a home gym now and you want to top it off with something that will reward you every single day of your life, moving forward, get yourself a good health sauna.

[00:43:25] Now you will thank me for it. You will thank me for it. We're going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, I'm going to talk about the misguided approach to trying to slow. The spread of COVID-19 stay with me. I think you're going to think I'm crazy, but just hear me out. You'll find out where I'm going.

[00:43:42] Stay with the weight of the world.

[00:43:52] okay. Very, very direct about this. [00:44:00] So we can't stop COVID-19 we can only slow it. Spread. And that's why you never, ever hear alarm lawmakers, governors, mayors say, well, if we just locked down long enough, it'll go away on its own it won't they know that they absolutely know that every virologist knows that.

[00:44:22] And I've, I've talked about this months ago and I predict that people are gonna start getting wise now. Um, originally we, we acted the way we did with the shutdown. Because we were afraid that this virus had such a high mortality rate, that hospitals would be overwhelmed. We also thought that everybody's going to need a respirator.

[00:44:47] They didn't need that either, but we've been wrong about a lot of things about this virus, but here's one thing we're not wrong about. You cannot wait this virus or any virus for that matter [00:45:00] out, you can't, it must go through the population. It will lay dormant in people and it will start to transmit again.

[00:45:10] When people start to interact, we know this because we've been through this already. We will, we will. We went through this 19, 19, 1918, 19, 19. The Spanish flu killed 685,000 Americans over the course of three waves. The initial infection, the second wave and the third wave, which took two years. And we didn't lock the country down.

[00:45:39] We definitely social distance and people did wear masks. More people, people were wearing masks back. Then some schools closed some schools didn't. But there was never this discussion about we're just going to wait it out. No one ever thought that. And as a result of that [00:46:00] today, we don't have a Spanish flu any longer, and we'd never developed the Spanish flu vaccine.

[00:46:07] Let that sink in the deadliest virus to come through. The United States was the Spanish flu. It killed almost three quarters of a million people. It came in an initial infection phase and two subsequent waves. So it three waves altogether. We social distance. Then we wore masks, but virtually not, everything was shut down.

[00:46:33] Like we have today. We didn't have governors telling us, stay in your house. When you juxtapose this to what Sweden did you understand why Sweden is doing better than places like New York, which by the way, this nonsense that New York is a model for the way we handled COVID-19 is a lie. You know, that 32,000 deaths, they have more deaths than Italy.

[00:46:53] How could they be the model? So in other words, having all those X is a good thing, but I'm not [00:47:00] going to get into that. I just want to talk about facts. You know, everything looking forward is a guess. Everything looking back, we know for sure. So we never developed that by a vaccine for Spanish flow. It worked its way through population as all viruses have to do.

[00:47:18] And now it's gone. We don't worry about it anymore. So this idea that politicians are going to slow the spread. So it's kind of like if you have a job to do, and it's going to take you 10 days working eight hours a day, you decide, instead of working eight hours a day for 10 days, I'm just going to work one hour a day for 80 days, you're going to, you're going to stretch it out.

[00:47:51] But you could get it all done in 10 days and it's inevitable. You have to finish it. It's like not an option not to finish it. So [00:48:00] why would you want to slow down the process and make it take 80 days to finish this job? That must be done that it's re resolution is inevitable when you could do it all in 10 days and get past it and move on.

[00:48:15] This is the real question today that I'm asking. I'm asking you, I'm asking politicians. We all know that this virus must run its course, no one disagrees with this. No one is, if we just locked down for two more weeks, like hard lockdown, nobody leaves their house. No one does. Virus will die on its own and just go away.

[00:48:37] Fowchee is not saying that Brix is not saying that. Um, What's his name? Uh, the guy, the governor of California. And he's, he, they're all saying we need to slow the spread, but if it's inevitable that this virus must run through our population in order for us to have to not need a vaccine and for it to reside, why do we [00:49:00] want to slow the spread?

[00:49:03] Why are we dragging out the inevitable. Maybe let's keep all the high risk people at home, right? If you have comorbidities you're it seems to prey on the elderly. So if you're 70 years old plus, or if you're in your forties and fifties, you're really, really unhealthy. You need to stay in your house. You need to do the things to keep yourself isolated from it.

[00:49:28] More and more people are finding out that they had the virus and they had no symptoms. We're testing 700,000 people a day and people are going, Oh my God, everybody's got it. But, but, but the death rate is going down daily. And when you look at the death rate, it's still stratified. More, more old, people are dying.

[00:49:45] So maybe we take the high risk population we say to them, look, you need to stay in your house. And by the way, here's a prescription for. A Z pack, two, three refills. We're going to give [00:50:00] you a prescription for Z-pack and his two more refills, because all you really need is Zithromycin to beat this. I know more people who caught it.

[00:50:10] Got a Z pack. My good friend, Johnny . He has his mother-in-law is a hundred years old. He finally took her back to New York because they were living with him in Pennsylvania and his aunt and her daughter. And she finally wanted to go back to her home in New York. He drove her home and while he was out there, he went shopping for her.

[00:50:28] And while he went shop, before he got sick, he came home. He was horrible. He said, I couldn't talk. I couldn't breathe. He said, I felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest and I told his brother tell him to get a Z pack. He called his doctor got the Z pack. Three days later, he was better. So maybe, maybe the strategy is this.

[00:50:46] Maybe we stopped fooling ourselves and thinking we can beat this virus because we can't. And maybe we stopped stretching out the inevitable and instead of stretching it out and making it less the next two years, maybe we [00:51:00] speed it up and we say, okay, healthy people, people who were willing to go out and risk their lives.

[00:51:08] Go do your thing. The faster it runs through the population, the faster, this will all be behind us. Those of you who are very, very sick, you're a high probability to die from this. You stay home, you don't go to work the governmental help you not instead of, instead of the whole country, instead of us giving money to people who just don't want to work, we give people money that that can't work.

[00:51:30] And then. We make sure that there's more than enough XE packs to go around. So as soon as somebody gets symptoms, you give them a Z-Pak boom, it's over, they develop antibodies. They're all better. They never get it again. That's the way to keep people from dying. You're not going to keep people from dying by keeping them locked up.

[00:51:46] If anything we learned, we know that the people who are locked up have the virus to a greater degree, we saw that in New York. So maybe the answer to all of this is instead of this idiocy. [00:52:00] Uh, this, this, this ridiculous idea of let's just stretch out the inevitable. Let's make something that could potentially take another year, take four years.

[00:52:10] Cause think about it. It took two years or year and a half year and three quarters for the Spanish flu to completely work through our population until Spanish flu. Wasn't a worry any longer. And we never had to develop a vaccine. But if we keep locking down and opening up slightly and, and locking down and open it, this is going to take five years to get through.

[00:52:32] And ultimately, I challenge anybody, anybody to tell me. And I said this Facebook the other day, if I have a politician who says, well, we just locked down. For two weeks solid. Nobody goes anywhere. We shut everything down. We should businesses down. We shut churches down. We go back to where we were and in two weeks this'll be done.

[00:52:54] I would say to that politician. Okay, we'll do what you do want us to do, but here's the [00:53:00] deal. If in two weeks, when we reopened the country, the virus starts to spread again. Then I want you. To take all of the assets of you, your family, every one of your family with kids, grandkids, or all of their assets now, and future assets and disperse them amongst the population so that your generations moving forward, live in abject poverty forever.

[00:53:25] You'll see how fast to go. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I don't know if I, I may be wrong. Yeah, you may be wrong. Exactly. See. Lawmakers and politicians are talking about things like absolutes. Well, if we just did this and if we, if we started holding people accountable, not for their good intentions, but for the outcome of their disease, you would see how quickly these people would shut the F up.

[00:53:51] Yup. If you told them , Hey, you get this wrong one more time. We're going to put you in jail for 10 years. Let's do it like Chinese do right. When you do something wrong in China, [00:54:00] they kill you. Okay. Let's not do that. Let's just put him in jail. We say, okay, dr. Fowchee, lay out the details, moving forward. What can we do?

[00:54:10] And how many people will we save? And now we're going to follow. We wrote everything. We have video of you saying this, we're going to follow this. And if this doesn't happen, we're going to put you in jail for 50 years. Whether the rest of your natural life, you'll see how quickly they change their mind.

[00:54:25] You'll see how quickly they'll go. You know, maybe I don't think that. This is a good idea because I'll lose everything. So let's see something. So David Pascoe says, I think it's crazy to send kids back to school. Sure. The kids will be fine, but what about the elderly teachers? Uh, and they can, we'll bring the virus home to their parents and grandparents and neighbors.

[00:54:49] You know, I do, I do agree with this. I kind of feel like. The children may not get sick, but they may bring the virus home to their family. [00:55:00] But if their family is willing to take that risk, then let them take that risk, Dave, because that's is my point here, Sweden didn't mandate anything. They let people do what they thought they would do.

[00:55:16] They let people do what they were willing, what risks they were willing to accept. That's the problem here. We have politicians, we have lawmakers, we have spurts telling us this is the way it is. And it's never that way. It hasn't been that way so far. We haven't done anything correct about this virus so far nothing.

[00:55:39] So I, I, you know, I get what you're saying. The children actually become seeds. They bring the virus home. They don't get sick, but the people they come in contact with get sick. So I do agree with you. But at the same time, I say, let people make their own choices. That's all. If a teacher [00:56:00] says I'm not willing to teach because I'm afraid of getting sick.

[00:56:03] Okay, great. You stay home. That's it. If a family says, well, my elderly mother lives with us, so I don't want my kid going to school because I'm not worried about me and my husband, but I'm worried about my grandmother. Great. Then your kid doesn't go back to school, but stop forcing everybody to take the necessary steps that only sick and high risk people should be taking.

[00:56:28] That's not how life works. That's just not, and we're being forced here. This is why homeschooling. Is going to really take off. No one is going to want to send it. And that's great. I think that's great. I think that if you're a parent and you go, you know what, I'm not willing to take this risk. I'm going to homeschool my kids.

[00:56:45] Great. But here's the problem, Dave, here's the problem. Most people today are two income families. W, you know, when my, when I was a young man, my mother didn't work [00:57:00] that generation, the man went off and everybody could live on one person's salary. You know, you have a lot of women out there who don't feel the way you do.

[00:57:08] You have a lot of women out there saying, how am I going to survive? If I don't go back to work? Nevermind two income families. What about the single parent family? I can't work anymore because I have to homeschool my kid. I mean again, I come back to let people make the choices they're comfortable living with the repercussions of let's stop acting like we have all the answers.

[00:57:31] And when I say we, I don't mean you and me, Dave. I mean, the politicians were telling us erroneous information. Like they know what to do here because I'm telling you Dave and everybody else out there. You are not going to stop this virus from doing what it is genetically designed to do, like all viruses and that is passed through our population until we develop herd immunity.

[00:57:57] You're not, I don't care if you [00:58:00] shut the country down for six months, it's just going to take longer for it to do what it wants to do. So. Let's rip the bandaid off. Let the high risk people make the choices that they want. I am not going to send my kids. God bless you. That's good. You have a way to figure that out and pay your bills still.

[00:58:16] Good. You do it. The people who say no, I want to send my kids to school, send them to school. The teachers would say, I'm not worried about getting sick. I had it already. I have the antibody, whatever they go and teach the kids. This is my point, because the sooner we start living like that, the faster this virus will make its way through our population.

[00:58:36] We will develop herd immunity and we will be done with it. And we won't need a vaccine. Not at all because we learned that from the Spanish flu, no one developed the vaccine for the Spanish flu. It killed almost three quarters of a million Americans in just under two weeks years. And, and now it's gone.

[00:58:56] Nobody, nobody worries about it anymore. [00:59:00] So what we're doing right now is just nonsense and it's the politicians that are making us do it. It's unnecessary and feel free to email me at, on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. If you have a different opinion, cause I'll have you on the show. If you can prove to me that I'm wrong because I've talked to virologists already about this.

[00:59:17] They don't want to come out and say anything because they don't want to be, they don't want to be jumped on. They don't want to be attacked by the woke crowd, but they say the same thing. Dave says, I totally agree with you. Not everyone can homeschool. So it's between risk and grandma and sending the kids to school when a better alternative would be to.

[00:59:36] Can you continue? I like video schooling that works. I like that. Or maybe, yeah, maybe you live in a neighborhood where all the moms get together and they, and one and one mom homeschools one week and the other mom homeschools the other week and they rotate. So they can go to work because see, We can't part of the problem we're having right now is that now the suicide rates are [01:00:00] arising.

[01:00:00] And I predicted this on my show. Uh, several months ago, you know, there's an accepted, there's an accepted statistics. That's accepted by the government accepted by Hollywood, accepted by liberals, accepted by conservatives that for every 1% rise in unemployment that equals 40,000 deaths. They know this, those deaths come from suicide.

[01:00:24] They come from accidents. They come from not affording to go to the doctors and find out you had cancer when it was time to catch it. So we know that right now, just because of the 13% rise in unemployment that we've seen since COVID that there's going to be, uh, over 400,000 deaths from the impact on the economy.

[01:00:48] And so that's going to be more than COVID is going to kill. So, you know, this is, this is a tough pill to swallow. It's hard to tell people, like I talked to my buddy, [01:01:00] Joey, this morning about this, we were talking about this and that's why I felt like I want them to discuss it. He says, yeah. But what about all those old people that have to die?

[01:01:08] They don't have to, they stay locked down. They don't have to, they don't go out shopping. They call the grocery store and they have their food delivered. They stay in, they wear masks and have a prescription for azithromycin on hand with two or three refills automatically. So as soon as they get symptoms, they pop them.

[01:01:28] Cause these optimized and cures, everybody that takes it, everybody without the hydroxy chloroquine and without all the other stuff, um, But we, we need to get past this. We need to get it over with, with, uh, you know, if you remember it, when you were a kid and you had a report to do, and your teacher gave you the homework, and instead of doing a Friday night, you waited and you said, I'll do it Saturday.

[01:01:53] And then Saturday rolled around. And now it's Sunday. Now it's Sunday night and you're an hour and a half away from bedtime. And you [01:02:00] have to do a report that you knew you had to do. So now you're going to do a really crappy job on the report. You're going to get a horrible grade. When you actually planned to fail because you ignored the fact that you had plenty of time to do it and get it over with it's the same thing here.

[01:02:17] I need to get it over with. We need to have this virus run through the population, develop herd immunity, and move on. By the way I love your show. Thank you. And thank you for watching. Really. Thanks so much for doing what you do. Although I have to say that I love your superhuman content much more than that.

[01:02:33] Politics, this isn't politics. I don't know why people think this is politics. This is about living and dying. The only reason why it's about politics. Dave is because a group out there made this political, I'm talking about a virus. I'm talking about physiology. I'm talking about biology. I'm talking about the inevitability of getting sick and how we can live through it.

[01:02:57] I'm sorry that you see it as. [01:03:00] Political, but that's not me. It's not because of me. It's because we have arise this discussion, which should only be about what's the best thing for people. If it wasn't political, Dave, somebody up in a pulpit somewhere would say, well, it's inevitable. They'd be saying what I'm saying.

[01:03:19] Well, it's inevitable. It has to go through the population, look at the Spanish flu, but the problem is it's become politicized. And that's really sad because that's why more people are going to die unnecessarily because it's become political politicized. I, I'm not talking politics here. I'm talking facts, critical thinking, deductive reasoning.

[01:03:39] And what's going to get us out of this jam and what's going to get us out of this jam is that we get it out. Get, get through it faster. Let it run. Its run. Let it run its course. Um, people will be better off for it. We're going to take a one less commercial break. I want to talk about a study. That's very fascinating where they combined I'm fasting, mimicking diet with the, [01:04:00] uh, Estrogen blockade therapy for women with breast cancer and, uh, and Dave, thank you for participating really.

[01:04:10] I I'm glad that you posted these things because it helps me too, because it's not all black and white with me. It never is nothing in life is a, but stay tuned. We'll be right back with more of Superman radio. Let's talk about this study. I think it's very promising. Stay tuned out right now. This is the superhuman channel.

[01:04:32] welcome back. So a team of USC led international science has found that it's a one, two punch using the fasting diet, along with hormone therapy to enhance the effects of breast cancer treatment and two small clinical human trials. Very promising. Um, when I had dr. Thomas C freed on this show who wrote the book cancer as a metabolic [01:05:00] disorder, the first time he was on the show twice.

[01:05:03] When he was on the first time I asked him, I said, dr.  if you were diagnosed with cancer tomorrow, what would you do? And without any hesitation at all, he said, well, the first thing I do is I'd fast for three days. That's the first thing he said, you know, uh, the keto diet has reversed cancer in a lot of instances.

[01:05:28] It's probably not the only thing. There's some cancers out there that don't respond well to the keto diet, because there are now some cancer cancers and evolutionary cell, by the way, cancer is probably the most evolutionarily adapted cell in our body. It's designed to take all the resources for itself.

[01:05:48] What triggers it clearly is mitochondrial changes. Uh, the mitochondria undergoes a, some sort of defect that switches it to anaerobic glide. [01:06:00] And once it makes that switch, then the cell becomes a hoard or hoarder of everything. That's good for healthy self. This is why I have always said it's misguided.

[01:06:16] To say, well, IGF one helps cancer cells grow well. IGF one helps help yourself grow or, um, You know, oxygen, uh, is, uh, is a driver of, of certain cancers. Well, oxygen is a driver of, of health. Everything that's good for her. Like even, even, um, when race was all the rage, right? Oh, we're going to stop aging by just making telomeres longer increasing telomerased production.

[01:06:43] That failed miserably, by the way. Um, We know that cancer cells produce their own telomere race. And so they, they actually keep repairing their telomeres so that they can keep reproducing cells. So everything that is is good for healthy [01:07:00] cells is triple good for cancer cells. Joe choking something off from a cancer cell has collateral damage to the rest of the tissue in the body.

[01:07:09] Look at chemotherapy. You have to poison the entire body to kill the cancer, the brain, the kidneys, the heart, everything gets poisoned to kill this cancer over here, wherever it is. That's why I've always said that chemotherapy is akin to burning down the entire house because you have a stain on the carpet, really.

[01:07:33] I mean, it destroys everything in the body, but the body bounces back and it's resilient and the cancer doesn't. And so that's why it's still used today. In some cases, not always some cases, the body doesn't bounce back in the case of, um, SIS plantain, which is a very popular chemotherapy. It destroys the kidneys.

[01:07:51] A lot of people who undergo multiple rounds of SIS plantain, uh, uh, therapy for cancer. They usually die years later from some sort of [01:08:00] kidney disorder. So, so you didn't, the cancer didn't kill you, but the cancer treatment did. Right. Okay. So, what they basically found out was that, uh, people being on a fasting, mimicking diet, uh, which is 600 calories a day or less, and I'm sure that all, all of these things would be achieved if people just use it intermittent, fasting, or time restricted feeding, uh, but being on a fasting, mimicking diet, reduced blood insulin.

[01:08:30] Insulin is a very anabolic hormone. And if it's anabolic to good tissue, it's anabolic to cancer tissue. Okay. Which also reduce insulin like growth factor. IGF one and interesting enough reduced leptin, which is a driver of, of satiety and hunger, and is blamed for people becoming fatter and fatter. And obesity is closely tied to the development of cancer and type two diabetes is tied to cancer and there you go.

[01:08:59] The reduces [01:09:00] insulin. Um, so. And a fasting mimicking diet, which is basically a very, very restrictive, uh, calorically restrictive 600 calories a day or less, uh, was able to when used with the traditional cancer therapies, like, um, very powerful aromatase inhibitors was more successful at. Curing breast cancer and keeping the recidivism rate or the reoccurrence, uh, from, from occurring.

[01:09:31] And so this new study suggests that a fasting mimicking diet together with endocrine therapy for breast cancer. So has the potential to not only shrink tumors, but also reverse resistant tumors that was done in mice. That particular portion of them. These are several studies taken get together now. What do we know about the ketogenic diet?

[01:09:55] But one of the things I learned over quest when I was working with, uh, Ron Penna over there [01:10:00] who is still deeply involved in cancer research, by the way, he really has made it his mission to cure cancer. And I know people are going to laugh at that, but he's brilliant and he's serious and he's funding his own cancer therapy.

[01:10:14] Um, but we know that, uh, when, when I work with them, And Victoria Dallas, when she was working in the KIDO side of quest, when they had the, uh, uh, they, they had the, uh, kettle pet sanctuary, where they were working with dogs with cancer. And a lot of that research bled over to humans. They were actually working with Cedar Sinai, and they were allowing Cedar.

[01:10:40] Sinai was allowing people who. Didn't want the standard of care. They didn't want chemo. They didn't want radiation. You know, they wanted something else. They would send them over to Victoria. A and Victoria would put them on a ketogenic diet. And we learned from her work there. And from quest recently [01:11:00] that being in ketosis plus having a slight, uh, a slight deficit.

[01:11:11] All right. Actually halted metastasis, it called the small cells of cancer from leaving a solid tumor floating around in your blood and taking up a space in your liver or your kidneys or your lungs. So we know that, uh, Caloric restriction and being in ketosis. And, and if you're really calorically, restricted state chances are you're producing some amount of ketones.

[01:11:45] You're not chasing ketones. It's not like, Oh, I want my ketone levels to be 2.2 millimoles. Maybe your ketones are 0.8 throughout the day, but we know that in people that already were diagnosed with cancer, That shut [01:12:00] off metastasis and shutting off metastasis. This is job number one, because if you have cancer and the tumor is suspended, it's not growing and the cancer's not spreading.

[01:12:11] And the rest of your body, you could probably sit and wait for the rest of your life. And watch that tumor. We saw that in the dogs at the keto pet sanctuary, there was several dogs at kettle pet sanctuary that their owners want to have them put down the. A veterinarian knew about the kettle pet sanctuary contacted the people at keto.

[01:12:31] Pet said, this guy wants, put his dog down and he's got the solid tumor here. He's got this, he's got that. And kettle pet took him, did all the same stuff they do for people with cancer therapy. Um, and yeah, those tumors either completely shrunk and went away or in some cases they didn't shrink and they stopped growing.

[01:12:52] They will, they were in suspended animation. They were just. Stayed the same. And at the same time, by keeping the dogs in some [01:13:00] sort of caloric deficit and keeping them in ketosis and they didn't starve, these dogs were fine. In fact, they were more lively and energetic than they had ever been before, but they, they were actually able to live for years with them cancer.

[01:13:15] That was going to have them put to sleep two years earlier. So we know that the ketogenic diet ketones and a slight caloric restriction is magic. When you're treating your, when, when you're treating cancer, no matter what you're treating it with. It only helps. Now I did a show probably seven years ago where they used the ketogenic diet in combination with chemotherapy and what the two important things that they found out in that study.

[01:13:45] And it was, it was a study over the course of like five years. And what they found out in that study was two things that were important. Number one, Being in ketosis before having chemotherapy and during [01:14:00] chemotherapy protected the healthy cells from being damaged, because we're talking about DNA damage, chemotherapy damages, your DNA.

[01:14:09] So you have healthy cells and the damage, the DNA is damaged five, six, seven years from then you could start developing a new disease that had nothing to do with the cancer, but has, was triggered by the treatment. They found out that. Removing sugar from the diet, having people in ketosis, when they underwent chemotherapy, the chemo didn't destroy them as much.

[01:14:32] They didn't feel horrible, horrible, horrible. And on top of that, the healthy cells weren't damaged. To a greater degree than if they hadn't had chemotherapy. The other thing they found out was the people who were given the chemotherapy and the ketogenic diet in ketosis who continue to go home, but not everybody did, but stayed on the ketogenic diet cancer, never returned the people who went home and [01:15:00] just said, Oh, my cancer is gone.

[01:15:02] My doctor said, I'm fine. Now I'm going to just go back and eat the crap way before their cancer came back. So we know that the being in ketosis can protect you from the horrible damages from chemotherapy, but also so staying in that zone, and again, you don't have to be in two millimoles. It's just being in ketosis.

[01:15:23] And what we're learning is, you know,  turns on mTOR turns off and PK turns on and PK it's, it's a rhythm. So you didn't have to stay in deep ketosis for the rest of your life, but you had to have periods of time where your body was using ketones and period of times where it wasn't, but you couldn't eat sugar and stuff like that.

[01:15:43] But the people who did go back and eat the crap, they, before their cancer came back. So that that's a very powerful, that's very powerful information taken, uh, together with this study. Shows that it works for a variety of [01:16:00] cancers, including, uh, hormone dependent cancers, which are thought to be the it's thought that if you have a hormone dependent cancer, the only way to beat it crush the hormone for the rest of your life.

[01:16:10] Well, poor women, poor men, men too. They go through ADT androgen deprivation therapy. They may live another 10 years. Their lives suck for 10 years. They're horrible. They have no energy, no libido it brain fog. They get big fat bellies because they become spontaneously diabetic. And when women to their bone, that bone mineral drops, they end up with osteoporosis.

[01:16:33] They lose muscle mass. They have hot flashes, just like horrible menopause. They feel horrible, but they have no choice. They're told because this is the only way we keep your cancer from coming back. Maybe not. Maybe the reality is that if we get them on a ketogenic diet, they undergo undergo their, um, uh, hormone therapy.

[01:16:53] And then when the hormone therapy is over, we just say, no, look, you need, you need to start eating this way all the time. You know, you stay away from the breads and the starches [01:17:00] and the sugars. You can have them in rare occasions, in small, small amounts. We know from. People who, uh, go on the ketogenic diet to control brain tumors, that they, they can't eat sugar anymore.

[01:17:16] They do the brain tumor just starts to grow right away. And that's what caused the brain gets priority. The brain sees sugar. It's like, no, no, that's mine F the muscles. I asked me, send it to me. Okay. These women could undergo their normal, uh, hormone blockade therapy. And then. Live on a low carb lifestyle for the rest of their lives and never see their cancer return.

[01:17:40] Now, obviously more research needs to be done, but if I was diagnosed with cancer or somebody I love was diagnosed with breast cancer, I would tell them immediately they have to go into ketosis. They have to get on a ketogenic diet. I'd even, I'd even use ketone esters in the early stages, uh, to, to, to promote the presence of [01:18:00] ketones in their blood while they are becoming adapted.

[01:18:04] Um, the interesting thing about this study was that the reduction in insulin leptin and IGF levels, uh, remained low for extended periods after they were on this fasting, mimicking diet, which means that the second you stop eating that you don't immediately return back to the metabolic arrangement. It takes a little time again for you to derange yourself.

[01:18:29] That's very promising. The thing I find most fascinating is one of the doctors that dr. Longo said, I like to call this nontoxic wildcard for cancer treatment. That's the big thing here. Anything you can do that's nontoxic because, because chemotherapy is toxic, it is poison and it's administered in such a way in such a fashion that it doesn't kill you.

[01:18:56] But it kills the cancer, but it almost kills. You [01:19:00] ask anybody who's undergone chemotherapy. When they have their chemotherapy for the next two, three, four days, they can't do anything. They have been poisoned. If you went out to a restaurant and ate a meal and went home and vomited up your guts and laid in bed for the next four days, people would say, Oh my God, you got food poisoning.

[01:19:20] It's poison. And that's what happens to a lot of people who undergo chemo therapy. They go, they get their chemo, they go home, they vomit up. That's why they introduced cannabis to help them not vomit. They lose their appetite. They lay in bed for three or four days. They can't do anything. And then also autoimmune autoimmune issue spread spring up.

[01:19:38] We're learning this more and more people, the one that go chemotherapy, because it does something to the gut. The gut is the immune system. Inflammatory inflammation is the army of the immune system. A lot of them end up getting rid of the cancer, but now all of a sudden they have rheumatoid arthritis. Ah, okay.

[01:19:54] Anything that's nontoxic that can, can treat cancer? Sure is wonderful. [01:20:00] Now I'm not suggesting that people abandoned the rescue attempt. Of chemo. If you have an advanced cancer that has a prognosis of you living two or three weeks or even two or three, once I say, get the chemo, but get into ketosis first, get the chemo, stay in ketosis for the long haul, beat the cancer, and then enjoy your life with a slightly modified diet.

[01:20:25] But this is very promising to me because mainstream medicine. Is just starting to understand the value of nutrition as a therapeutic modality for treating diseases. And granted it's taken them a decade to come up to speed to where we all are right in this audience. Okay. But at least they're starting to recognize it.

[01:20:47] I find that very, very promising. So there you go. I'll post the link to the study in today's show. In case, you know, anybody that you love, who is dealing with breast cancer, any kind of cancer, uh, [01:21:00] and, uh, absolutely ketogenic diet, ketosis, and ketones are your friend. They are your ally. They are your, your, your, your, your partner in fighting cancer.

[01:21:13] And even if you go for the traditional modalities of treatment for cancer, do it. And do the ketogenic diet too. And again, don't forget, you don't have to be afraid of protein. You know, we think that leucine turns into sugar. It doesn't, you know, um, gluconeogenesis is a very, very metabolically expensive process.

[01:21:33] Now glutamine can feed some cancer cells. So if you're, if you have a cancer that is that, that glutamine or, uh, some of the other amino acids, I'm trying to think of the other one with thianine. Can live on there's some cancers that they, they prefer glutamine or thianine as their food source. Now you do have to cut protein out.

[01:21:57] You do, but again,

[01:22:03] [01:22:00] excuse me, diet as a cure, the medical orthodoxy is starting to figure it out. Okay. We'll see you tomorrow with more supreme-a radio. Please share the show. Thanks for listening today. [01:23:00]