[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. Today is August 14th, 2020. This show has been in the making for a very long time. Actually, we've done a lot of different episodes talking about how the gut

[00:00:14] Matt Gallant: [00:00:14] affects the brain.

[00:00:16] Carl Lanore: [00:00:16] We've done shows that show that overgrowth of the wrong types of microbes in the gut lead to D lactic acidosis, which leads to brain fog, depression, anxiety.

[00:00:26] And there's more, we know that we literally feed the microbes in our gut, the foods that we eat, and they either make chemicals that make us feel good or make us feel bad. So since we know this, it's obvious that we can then shift. The terrain of the gut, so that less of these, uh, let's say for lack of better terms, harmful chemicals are being, uh, made and affecting our brain.

[00:00:56] And we're going to talk about just how to do that today with Matt Galanta in just a moment [00:01:00] before we do that, I have to always acknowledge our title sponsor, legendary foods. Um, they make a generous sponsorship, uh, payment every single month to this show to keep it going. And if you go to eat legendary.com and use the code SHR 10, you'll save 10% off everything at their website, and please do it.

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[00:01:51] now I'll bring my guest on Matt Gallant. Hey, how you doing? I'm Matt.

[00:01:58] Matt Gallant: [00:01:58] I'm doing great. How are you?

[00:01:59] Carl Lanore: [00:01:59] Good, [00:02:00] good. Welcome back. So we've done shows over the years that have given clear evidence that the nasty little bugs that live in our gut. Either poop out things that our brain likes or doesn't like one of the best shows I did about that was with dr.

[00:02:21] Satish Rao, who did a fantastic study showing that the overpopulation of a certain type of microbe overproduced, D D lactic acid, which, uh, led to D lactic acidosis. This is very different than the lactic acid that we build in our muscles from exercise and uniquely. It has an ability to literally freeze the brain from being able to do its job.

[00:02:48] And most people, the most popular symptom is, you know, I wake up in the morning, I have brain fog. The first four or five hours takes me a while to kind of shake it off. And he [00:03:00] showed that by eliminating these bad acting microbes and replacing the train with good acting mag microbes, this went away completely.

[00:03:07] We also know there are certain types of depression. That had been tied to, um, gut activity. Uh, we know that the gut, uh, not only produces chemicals, but there's been a direct path. That's been shown a nervous system wise from the gut to the brain. We have all this evidence out there. The next logical thing would be okay if we know that there's these bad things that mess up our brain.

[00:03:34] Okay. The, obviously it has to be good things there cause we feel good a lot of times. How do we tilt the scale so that there's more of the good actors and less of the bad actors and you guys kind of came up with the product just for that, didn't you?

[00:03:47] Matt Gallant: [00:03:47] Yeah. So I started, I mean, one of the bleeding edge of probiotics, and I want to frame, I'm going to share something we haven't shared, I think is the first podcast we share this with.

[00:03:58] Um, we [00:04:00] have gotten to a partnership. A few months ago with the Birch university in Syria. Yeah. Um, I have had, uh, a long time relationship with some really high level people at the university for many years. And we are, we've built a probiotic lab. We are buying very expensive machines. Uh, we have two PhDs, one, and she's a bacteriologist.

[00:04:25] Her PhD was in the bio in biofilm and the other lady has a PhD in genetics. So, what we're doing now is we're, we're following focus on taking the probiotic realm to the next dimension. We're doing nonstop experiments. I can talk a little bit about some of that stuff, but there's a really fascinating new field called psychobiotics and psycho usually has a bad connotation here.

[00:04:53] We're talking about psychological, uh, by probiotics, essentially the ones that create. [00:05:00] Neuro-transmitters so there's about 30 different. Your transmitters created in the gut. 95% of your serotonin is created in the gut, which is the, your transmitter. And it makes you feel good, feel happy. It's one of the reasons people love sugar, sugar boost.

[00:05:14] Serotonin is one of the reasons people do MTMA or Molly, whatever it's called these days. Um, and then dopamine is so critical for us. That want to get stuff done. I mean, dopamine is what gives you drive. They call it the learning. Your transmitter is critical for learning, um, is critical for, you know, doing things.

[00:05:33] I mean, entrepreneurs have hired an average dopamine levels and it's kind of our super power, but 50% of it's created in the gut. So we've done is we looked at all the research on psychobiotics and we selected the strains that do very specific. Things increasing serotonin, Gabba, improving, learning what we can talk about the specific strains in a minute, but that's [00:06:00] the approach to the product that we're talking about today, which is called cogni Biotics.

[00:06:05] That's just part of it, but the general approach on the product design. And one of the things we do with all of our products is we don't, we don't believe in, um, Just one thing. You know, we look at the entire bio pathway or neural pathway and we try to create something that hits all of the pathways. And really what we're talking about is mood.

[00:06:28] And, um, I can't legally say certain words, uh, because we are policed by the FDA and the FTC. But let's just call it mood and mood is so critical. You know, I mean, if you're in a better mood, right. And you're not down, let's just use these words. Um, you're going to be a better husband, a better boss, a better worker, a better partner, uh, that you're going to perform better.

[00:06:55] And that's what this product does. This product will elevate your [00:07:00] mood and elevate your brain. And again, we're talking about. And planting strains. These, these are not pharmaceuticals, you know, we're our, body's really the ultimate pharmaceutical factory. If you think about it, um, it's just nothing like it.

[00:07:15] I mean, our bodies are constantly creating neurochemical cocktails based on every emotion we feel. Right. If you feel fear to produce noradrenaline, adrenaline, dopamine cortisol. And that creates a very specific effect. Um, now there's certain States that are really conducive and productive and that's the States that we're focused on building and, you know, kind of the ultimate state to be in, in general is calm but alert.

[00:07:45] Yeah. And if you've got the right amount of serotonin and GABA, dopamine acetylcholine in the brain, that's the state that you're going to be in. And, you know, as an entrepreneur that has, you know, Sometimes eight hours [00:08:00] of nonstop meetings is critical for me to be in a peace state. And that's why we're so focused on the brain.

[00:08:07] Carl Lanore: [00:08:07] So. I mean, the brain obviously is probably the most important part of the body. Right. We, we have, we've pretty much either successfully or conceptualized, replacing many organs in the body. The brain will never be replaced. Right. So, um, let, let's talk a little bit about, uh, cognitive Biotics. Uh, a little bit more.

[00:08:29] I looked at the, I looked at the ingredient lineup list early and I noticed some probiotic strains. That we've done shows about the science behind them, but they've never made it into any products. So I was really pleased and surprised to see El Rotarian. So Al Terry, uh, the early research on Rytary when it was given to rodents, actually reversed [00:09:00] phenotypical age in rodents, like visibly their coats changed.

[00:09:05] They're modeled a double coach became shiny and smooth. Again, the, the, uh, episodes of lordosis and the urge to copulate increased dramatically from the old rodents prior to being introduced to El Rytary, El Rytary then was closely linked to the production of a hormone called oxytocin. And we have all this great news about oxytocin now.

[00:09:28] Oxytocin. Does everything from revitalize and reverse the aging of muscles to increasing bone mineral density and Postmates, Paul's a women. So when we talk about, about these microbes in our gut, it really comes down to the chemicals that they both produce and then somehow influence the production of.

[00:09:54] In some other tissue it's phenomenal to me. And every time I think about this, I come back to the [00:10:00] fact that I think that at some point in our Ellucian, we needed arms legs and, and the apparatus that we call body to serve the microbes in our gut, because it seems to me that we are at their Beck and call.

[00:10:14] They make us crave certain foods. They make us feel certain ways. I mean, it's just, it's just staggering. I feel like the more we know about it, it's like, Oh, I, I'm not, you know, Maslow, I've had a wrong, it's the self actualization of the microbes in our gut that we are fulfilling.

[00:10:32] Matt Gallant: [00:10:32] I agree when you look at it, I mean, , here's a mind blowing number, according to Stanford and Harvard

[00:10:37] Carl Lanore: [00:10:37] hundred

[00:10:38] Matt Gallant: [00:10:38] trillion microbes are in our guts.

[00:10:41] I mean, we can't even begin to imagine that numbers, you know, we can't even imagine a trillion let alone. Co-creating how we feel that, which is really what coughy Biotics is all about.

[00:10:53] Carl Lanore: [00:10:53] So talk about the lineup of a, of ingredients in

[00:10:56] Matt Gallant: [00:10:56] this product

[00:10:58] Carl Lanore: [00:10:58] list. Tell us [00:11:00] why, why they're important.

[00:11:02] Matt Gallant: [00:11:02] They'll start with bifida bifidobacteria in long term.

[00:11:05] Um, so one of the things it does, and I'm a huge fan of boosting BDS, so it increases brain drive you trophic factors, which helps us grow. Learn. Focus, uh, get into the zone. I mean, call it miracle, grow for your brain. Um, and, and I've, I've experimented a lot with boosting BDNF. It's one of those powerful things you

[00:11:28] could

[00:11:28] Carl Lanore: [00:11:28] do,

[00:11:28] Matt Gallant: [00:11:28] uh, improve your executive functioning.

[00:11:32] So I'm a big fan of anything that will boost beauty. And this is again your gut producing it. So there was a cool experiment with that train that took 22 men. They tested their memory, their stress levels with EEG machines. And they found that the ones who took the picture robotic procedure, less stress and experience higher memory recall.

[00:11:54] So, you know, and. I gotta admit that five years ago, my [00:12:00] memory was starting to go. I was 37 at the time and it was kind of scary. I mean, I was 37. My short term memory was starting to go. And since that time of, I would say, not just reverse that, but my brain is the sharpest it's ever been in my life. And a lot, it's not just calling me Biotics.

[00:12:19] I knew it was a new product. I've done a lot of things, but I just want everybody listening to know that. The general cognitive decline that most people go through as they get older is not necessary. We can stop that in my opinion, reverse that whether it's through neurofeedback supplements, good food meditation, et cetera, et cetera, but that's a great strain on another.

[00:12:45] Experiment. They just found it has really positive effects on stress scores. And right now let's, let's be honest, the stress levels of the planet. If you could measure them are probably the highest they've ever been because of

[00:12:58] Carl Lanore: [00:12:58] COVID lockdowns

[00:13:00] [00:13:00] Matt Gallant: [00:13:00] political, financial stress. So anything we can do to lower our stress levels is, is a win.

[00:13:07] The other thing that the strain will do. Is, and this, this is what probiotics do. It'll help produce vitamin K and B12, which are powerful mood enhancers.

[00:13:17] Carl Lanore: [00:13:17] So

[00:13:17] Matt Gallant: [00:13:17] what probiotics do they actually help? Break down the food that comes through at that last phase. And they produce vitamins. They produce enzymes that produce neurotransmitters, which are all things that are, are obviously truly beneficial for our body.

[00:13:35] So that's, that's the first strain.

[00:13:37] Carl Lanore: [00:13:37] Well, I want to stay, I want to stay with that just for a second, right. So sure. A bifidobacteria is, is in high quantities in human breast milk. And as we age the population of bifido declines, and we know that people who have high a bifido excuse me, higher levels of bifido display [00:14:00] better aging, especially its presence in the colon.

[00:14:04] Uh, believe it or not. It's one of the few probiotics that we know if it makes it to the colon, you're better off. So bifido is very, very important since you're talking about that one first, the other thing I want them to hear, yes. Go, go, go. Can I get a

[00:14:19] Matt Gallant: [00:14:19] yes. Can I give a pro tip on getting things to Nicola?

[00:14:21] Carl Lanore: [00:14:21] Yes. Mean, I've tried to sounds funny though. Isn't it? Matt,

[00:14:27] Matt Gallant: [00:14:27] wait, wait, wait till you hear the tip. Um, so you confirm it strains and you know, we've done, I've done this with P three alum and other of our other ones that were probiotics, but you basically fermented coconut water and then do either an enema.

[00:14:45] I've done even clonics using this strategy. So it's a good way to get stuff through the back door, so to speak. And ideally like I have a back version table, you know, do the enema, do the backend version [00:15:00] and then it'll just work its way down. Um, and usually your body absorbs the entire thing. I, it will come out like with some other things you might do an enema with.

[00:15:09] Pretty interesting. Right.

[00:15:11] Carl Lanore: [00:15:11] The other thing I wanted to mention since you talked about stress, This is just tangential a study. It was just published that showed a popular beta blocker drug reduced metastasis of some very, very aggressive forms of cancer that are known to metastasize very quickly by a statistically significant 40%.

[00:15:36] And that beta blocker drug is per panel and propranolol reduces the effects of adrenaline. On on all tissue, we know that people who take propranolol to low blood pressure also see a reduction in heart rate, but they also see changes in mood. Propranolol can make you a little sad, so we know what's happening in all tissue.

[00:15:57] So this notion [00:16:00] of managing stress, I predict in the next five, seven, eight years is going to be implicated in the metastatic relationship. Of cancer and it's gotta to be tied back to stress. So, so, um, uh, dr. Thomas C freed, who published the book, uh, uh, cancer as a metabolic disorder, talks about the first thing that happens in the body that starts the cancer process is not the uncle gene, but in fact, the mitochondria shifting to anaerobic respiration, it does this, we cause it's in.

[00:16:39] For lack of better terms, a stressed state, maybe not lack of better terms. I predict that in years to come, they're going to find out that stress drives metastatic transmission of cancer. You heard it here on this show first. Okay.

[00:16:53] Matt Gallant: [00:16:53] That's it. That's it

[00:16:55] Carl Lanore: [00:16:55] just want me to get those two things out there before I forget, because my brain isn't always, I gave [00:17:00] up caffeine.

[00:17:01] I gave up caffeine by zero. I'm dying, but go ahead. I'm sorry. But

[00:17:06] Matt Gallant: [00:17:06] one of my favorite things, when I do these shows with you is that, uh, I learned, you know, so, uh, I love all these is, uh, awesome insights. Uh, the next year it's called lactobacillus brevis and it's an another BDNF booster, um, which again, supports brain cell growth.

[00:17:22] Cause you know, one of the things that people thought for a long time is that. Their brains don't grow as we, you know, it's kind of set now we know that's a complete lie. Our brains can change. Your plasticity is very real and there's things we can do to improve that. Um, so, you know, now we can actually go about it through the gut, which is awesome.

[00:17:45] Next one is called lactobacillus helveticus sounds like a badass Roman bacteria or Swift, but

[00:17:52] Carl Lanore: [00:17:52] Swiss, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:17:55] Matt Gallant: [00:17:55] Uh, Maintains healthy levels of serotonin, which is again, so [00:18:00] key. Then another experiment with 30 helpers, the women, they found that decrease the global scores of feelings of nervousness and improved mood.

[00:18:12] Also in another study showed a reduced cortisol, restored, serotonin, and other brain neurochemicals. To normal levels. So again, very powerful. Um, next one's called lactobacillus catseye or Cassie, uh, which also relieves occasional stress and supports mood. 124 people were studied and they found that again, it improved their mood.

[00:18:37] They called it the pick me up strain. So another again, these are all highly researched strengths. Next one is another bifido bifido bacteria and analysis. Which has been shown to improve cognitive performance. Um, so your brain has these different hubs and you can actually train those hubs is on the other side.

[00:18:58] No, which I've done. I've spent over a hundred [00:19:00] thousand dollars training my brain and. You know, you can

[00:19:04] Carl Lanore: [00:19:04] add, if you,

[00:19:04] Matt Gallant: [00:19:04] sometimes you can do these scans, um, which shows you, which parts of your brains are flat. Well, this strain has been shown to activate the brain regions, which are involved in cognitive performance.

[00:19:18] So it's another. Again, not just a mood booster, but an actual cognitive performance. We've got another bifido strain in there called bifidobacteria

[00:19:27] Carl Lanore: [00:19:27] breath,

[00:19:29] Matt Gallant: [00:19:29] which helps support the nervous system and the whole gut brain connection. And by the way, they just found that the gut brain connection is a two way street.

[00:19:37] It's pretty wild. So not just the bacteria saying signals to our brain, our brains, we're sending signals through our gut. Um, so about 80 20 though. So 80% of the signals are coming from our gut to our brain and 20% the other way, but it just shows how everything is so interlinked in the body. Um, which is great.

[00:19:59] Now, [00:20:00] the other thing we did, so we worked with, let me start with the story. So. Four years ago, I was doing some bro. So very hardcore brain training. It's it's a week long. It's brutal. Um, usually by day four, you're you're exhausted, you know, it's kind of like squatting three times a day for every day. Right.

[00:20:23] And the neuroscientists there created a concoction of Chinese herbs and I mean, immediately. The brain came back on. My nervous system felt better and I became a real believer Chinese herbs. So we've worked with this gentleman who's in my opinion, the top Chinese rebel experts. And we've created a, a blank.

[00:20:44] It's a very popular blend and China's been around for 2,200 years, and I'm probably going to butcher the pronunciation here, but it's called shy who Shogun sun, which is you can look for CSS is the name, but, and I'm going to quote. A [00:21:00] meta analysis on this, on this herbal blend, which is awesome. And again, no claims here.

[00:21:06] This is the meta analysis I'm quoting. They found that it was significantly, significantly better than antidepressants and improving depressive symptoms. And it was also found, be a comparable. Two antidepressants as far as recovering from depression. So it basically was as effective as antidepressants in the meta analysis,

[00:21:31] Carl Lanore: [00:21:31] but there's another factor

[00:21:32] Matt Gallant: [00:21:32] too.

[00:21:33] It helps the attenuate, the Dow regulation of BDNF in the hippocampus. So there's two ways we can increase things and the body,

[00:21:42] Carl Lanore: [00:21:42] right. We can even start to conserve or, or make new. And so you do both.

[00:21:50] Matt Gallant: [00:21:50] Exactly you got, you got to crawl. So, so that's, that's the process. Uh, again, you, as a supplement company, we just, we don't box ourselves into [00:22:00] your Chinese herbs or probiotics we're into everything and anything that works, that moves the needle and the combination has proven to be very powerful.

[00:22:09] So what's the, just on the ingredients.

[00:22:10] Carl Lanore: [00:22:10] I want to answer a couple of questions as it fits nicely into this discussion. So first, uh, Tim Fitzgerald has a question, wants to know, uh, our thoughts on probiotics and potential for creating CBO. And I've done numbers of shows on this, uh, this topic from scientific research, like the one with dr.

[00:22:30] Satta trial, uh, on CBO and D lactic acidosis, people who develop CBO have a precursor condition that is completely ignored. And that is the pH in their gut is continually going up,

[00:22:46] Matt Gallant: [00:22:46] up, up, up, over time.

[00:22:48] Carl Lanore: [00:22:48] The acidity in your stomach is the gatekeeper that Q from developing CBO. So before, so if you're taking probiotics, large doses of probiotics, [00:23:00] All the time and you are running at the same time.

[00:23:05] For some reason, maybe you're taking PPIs at the same time because your doctor told you, you need a PPI or maybe you're Downing sodium bicarb, because somebody told you you'll perform better at the gym. Or maybe just because of an overpopulation of L pylori. For instance, your pH of your stomach is changing and becoming less and less acidic.

[00:23:26] This leads to the potential. For microbes to take up residence in the wrong spots. If that pH is adjusted properly, if your pH is driven down so that it's more acidic, then you don't have the threat of CBO. We know this. So CBO, you know, it's like so many things. Everybody wants to know just what's the one thing, the one thing and everything is so much more complex than just the one thing.

[00:23:56] Yes. Ma'am yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. You could [00:24:00] absolutely give yourself CBO. If you, I did it. I took VSL number three, two packet today. Think about this. One of 1 trillion. Uh, eight forms, eight strains of probiotics, 1 trillion a day. I always say, is it 1 trillion or the, yeah, cause it's 450 billion per packet. I was thinking two packets a day, just under, just under 1 trillion.

[00:24:27] I gave myself a problem. But what I didn't realize was I even came on the air and talked about this. I said, well, I take it at night before bed. And I take a sodium bicarb because I want to. I want to reduce the acidity of my stomach so that the probiotics survive. I actually, I gave myself CBO by taking probiotics and raising the PHA of my style at the same time.

[00:24:56] So yeah. Uh, CBO is not caused [00:25:00] by probiotics unless the terrain of the gut is fouled up already. Your, your, your, your, uh, suggestions or comments on my statement. No, I love it.

[00:25:10] Matt Gallant: [00:25:10] So I'll share some of the experiments we're doing. W we, we believed for a long time, for an example, with , which we've talked on another show that it was very powerful at eliminating bad bacteria and not harming good bacteria.

[00:25:28] What guess what? We've tested it. And it's true. We were able to eliminate. 90% of the bad bacteria,

[00:25:35] Carl Lanore: [00:25:35] including

[00:25:36] Matt Gallant: [00:25:36] the ones involved in food poisoning, which we knew was the case because, uh, we knew that in a real world that was happening. So that's one of the tests that we're doing. We've done a test with coughy Biotics, and again, there seems to be intelligence or recognition that certain strains were bad and other ones are good.

[00:25:57] And it's fascinating. So we literally [00:26:00] take Aguilar. We put. The strains and that we test them against

[00:26:06] Carl Lanore: [00:26:06] good

[00:26:07] Matt Gallant: [00:26:07] bacteria. One at a time we test them against bad bacteria, one of them time. And we can see based on the growth, whether or not they're going to kill each other, essentially. And what we found with coughy Biotics.

[00:26:21] Again, we're not harming the good bacteria and we are eliminating quite a few of the bad bacteria. Now there's better products for limiting that bacteria, but I'm just highlighting what a bigger conversation, which is, you know, the bacteria you're taking. Is it beneficial for eliminating again, the ones that are creating all the chemicals we don't want.

[00:26:45] The, the pathogenic bacterias, um, and you know, our new product, which we'll probably talk about on another show called leaky gut guardian. Um, it's been proven to be effective against

[00:26:57] Carl Lanore: [00:26:57] gram negative

[00:26:59] Matt Gallant: [00:26:59] bacteria, which [00:27:00] is incredible because those are very

[00:27:02] Carl Lanore: [00:27:02] tough

[00:27:03] Matt Gallant: [00:27:03] to eliminate. And what, we'll talk more about that in another show, but the point is those are just some of the experiments that we're doing, uh, which were pretty fascinating now, as far as the PR and we just bought it very expensive machine for the lab, which measures biofilm, biofilm is, is the test in a wall.

[00:27:22] You know, it's it's so we can actually measure on our, get our PhD. She's an expert in biofilm. She's incredible. And what she's talking about, which is really fascinating is that.

[00:27:35] Carl Lanore: [00:27:35] Based

[00:27:35] Matt Gallant: [00:27:35] on not just the bacteria, but everything that, that is with it, it sends signals that will make the biofilm grow and you know, the bacteria can hide in the bio.

[00:27:49] Yeah.

[00:27:50] Carl Lanore: [00:27:50] And in fact, in fact, in fact, I would argue that the job of the biofilm, like your virus volt on your computer is to sequester [00:28:00] bad bacteria. In fact, the reason people get. Cirrhosis of the liver from alcohol consumption. Isn't because the alcohol damages the liver, but it slowly erodes the biofilm and it lets these hostile agents loose that take up Ray.

[00:28:17] I did that show like 10 years ago, they take up residence in the, in the liver and they start cirrhosis. It's not the alcohol, but the biofilm that's been basically capturing these bad microbes in your gut. It gets broken down and those microbes go right to the liver and they start the cirrhosis process.

[00:28:38] Matt Gallant: [00:28:38] Yeah, that's fascinating. I did not know that, but the point is you want, you want to be your biofilm is, is growing every day. Now what we want again is, is we want to put the right strains in there, which is what we do. Um, I am not. I don't know anybody personally that has had CBO [00:29:00] except maybe you Carl. Um, so I don't think it's a big issue in general.

[00:29:03] I mean, again, and, and the pH factor, um, is an interesting one that I actually didn't know about.

[00:29:12] Carl Lanore: [00:29:12] Okay. So the product is called cognitive Biotics. If you go to SHR network.biz/better brain and use the code SHR 10, you can save up to 49% off to fantastic product. I've been using it now for a couple months, actually.

[00:29:28] Um, I use all of your products. I find that. The enzyme products, especially  and mass design. I used those before meals. I notice a difference when I forget to take them to restaurants and I don't take them. My digestion changes dramatically. It's very noticeable. And as, um, as, uh, we had a question a couple of minutes ago, and we're going to get to the question from will brink.

[00:29:50] Well, if you're still watching, we're going to get to that question after the next break. But Tim Fitzgerald, who has to grant.

[00:29:55] Matt Gallant: [00:29:55] What's that. Yeah, I know. Well, yeah.

[00:29:58] Carl Lanore: [00:29:58] Who doesn't right. Everybody knows. [00:30:00] Well,

[00:30:01] Matt Gallant: [00:30:01] but he's he's, he's got, he's got a place down here in Panama.

[00:30:05] Carl Lanore: [00:30:05] Oh yeah, yeah, no, I know he does. I know he goes there to write his, uh, his political espionage and, uh, and his books.

[00:30:11] He's a great writer. He's a great writer. But Tim for Joel says that he's been using a bio by optimizes HCL and enzymes for years. So there you go. And that's probably why he doesn't have CBO. Uh, but anyway, if you go to the website, S H R network.biz/better brain and use the code SHR 10. You can save up to 49% off this amazing product.

[00:30:34] We're going to take one quick commercial break. When we come back, we have more to talk about. We'll get to the other question. So stay tuned, please doing reps with the weight of the world.

[00:30:53] Let's just, um, tick off. We'll bring next question because it's, um, [00:31:00] it's a good one. He says, um, issues have always seemed to be ingestion of beneficial strains, actually making it into the areas of the GI that we want them via oral ingestion, getting the numbers up of beneficial bacteria in real numbers to benefit hosts.

[00:31:17] Always seems to be the challenge. I want to hear more on this topic, gents, he's talking to you. If he's calling you a gent, he's not calling me a gen, but he, you know, but I have to say something. If you have a study that shows that they took this and this happened, isn't this a nonissue at that point in time, like, like we're talking about, well, we don't know, we're not getting the numbers up.

[00:31:44] But if the effects are taking place, something's happening.

[00:31:49] Matt Gallant: [00:31:49] I agree. Uh, first of all, I think that you nailed it,

[00:31:52] Carl Lanore: [00:31:52] but let's talk about

[00:31:55] Matt Gallant: [00:31:55] how to get more out of any probiotic, which comes down to [00:32:00] prebiotics. And we're starting to do experiments in the lab. One of the things we track is growth rate. So different strains have different levels of growth rate.

[00:32:10] And, you know, B3 when for an example doubles every 20 minutes. So if people get too obsessed with the amount in the cap, I don't care about that really the growth rate, because as soon as it hits the bottom with the moisture, the temperature, the growth rate starts kicking in. And it, I mean, just do the math.

[00:32:32] If you start with a billion it's growing every 20 minutes for a day or two, uh, it'll reach a pretty high numbers. And, and we do have prebiotics in here and doing cost of tests right now on which prebiotics are the most effective.

[00:32:47] Carl Lanore: [00:32:47] But

[00:32:48] Matt Gallant: [00:32:48] in general, if you take strains with the prebiotic, um, they will, they will double, uh, more aggressively again, you're feeding them as you're going through the intestinal track.

[00:32:58] So [00:33:00] to me, that's the key to multiplying your, the benefits of any probiotic you're taking.

[00:33:05] Carl Lanore: [00:33:05] In fact, We know this. If we study human breast milk, the oligosaccharides in human breast milk and not for the baby, therefore the microbes that the mother is transferring in the milk to the baby. So, I mean, we th th th and you know what I, whenever people talk about, about probiotics without talking about prebiotics, I like to point out that.

[00:33:29] If coral didn't have that calcified structure that it's created from pooping for decades, it wouldn't be coral. It would just be plankton. It would just be a single cell green thing that just floating through the water coral hands on the relationship between they single celled animal and. The home that it's built over time, the same way that a probiotic needs a prebiotic in order to create [00:34:00] an environment and create a home without the prebiotic it's just passing through.

[00:34:04] Is that a general to generalize of a statement?

[00:34:08] Matt Gallant: [00:34:08] No, I think you nailed it. I mean, here's, here's the thing to look, look at probiotics. Look at bacteria as a living organism. Which they are, and they respond

[00:34:19] Carl Lanore: [00:34:19] to

[00:34:20] Matt Gallant: [00:34:20] all the same things that we do. They respond to stress, you need food and they produced yeah.

[00:34:27] Byproducts. Now, are these byproducts good or bad? That's the question. And we're talking about is obviously we want strains that are producing very good byproducts and not bad poop, so to speak. And you know, one of the things we do, and again, it's not a PTM show, but. We know it's the Navy seal because when we, when we hit it with acid, okay.

[00:34:52] So one of the things we do is we hit it with acid and we hit it with a sine wave to try to keep them alive a [00:35:00] little bit only 5% make it. So only 5% of the absolute strongest survive. And then we culture them. And there was a really interesting experiment we just did in the lab with salt solutions. So we kept stepping up the salt solutions and.

[00:35:16] Every strain was, was dropping except for , which it dropped a little bit and then it bounced back and then we kept upping it. It dropped again, and then we bounced back. It just shows the resilience of it. Um, but that's part of what we're working on in the lab. We're working on developing processes. That hormetic stress is positive stressors.

[00:35:41] We want to make all of our strains incredibly resilient. Um, so some of the tests that we're doing is, again, we talked about good bacteria, bad bacteria, acid growth rate, feeding them different things. Um, you know, uh, here's a, here's another mindblower too. [00:36:00] We were testing them against, um, antibiotics. And they're surviving, which is actually another stressor too, for bacteria.

[00:36:10] Of course. So. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's really fun. I mean, a perfect world would have like 15 labs that are just running experiments for us all the time. We're working our way there, but right now we've got one. So no, it it's. Um, one of my fierce favorite sayings is like, let's get out of the realm of theories and opinions, and that's why I love and experiments because you see what works.

[00:36:34] You see what doesn't.

[00:36:35] Carl Lanore: [00:36:35] So the people who that take a cognitive Biotics, what do they say? How soon do they notice changes? What are the, what, what are the general consensus of people who just take it?

[00:36:46] Matt Gallant: [00:36:46] You will feel it that day because the herbs hit you fast. So you're going to hit the herbs. Uh, the herbs will hit your brain probably in an hour or two.

[00:36:57] Um, if you're doing kind of a, a buttered coffee [00:37:00] or butter drink, it's great to take with that. Um, some of the herbs are thought soluble, so you're going to feel that, but typically you definitely feel it I'd say within, you know, an hour or two and you just in a different. Mood, you know, a better mood. Cause you know, like I'm in Panama right now and we are under the strictest lockdown in the world and we'd have been for five months at four hours of freedom a week.

[00:37:27] I can go out two hours on Tuesdays and two hours on Thursday.

[00:37:31] Carl Lanore: [00:37:31] Oh my God. So somebody, so somebody who's not good at scheduling his time, like me would be, would be dead. I wouldn't be able to buy food. I'd forget to go out or something.

[00:37:39] Matt Gallant: [00:37:39] Oh yeah. You'd probably you'd go to jail, but I'm

[00:37:44] Carl Lanore: [00:37:44] sorry.

[00:37:45] Matt Gallant: [00:37:45] Anyways, the point is that.

[00:37:47] Because of that, um, you know, no social interaction other than my wife and, you know, a friend that, that, uh, I see on my two hours sometimes,

[00:37:56] Carl Lanore: [00:37:56] you know, I've felt okay

[00:37:59] Matt Gallant: [00:37:59] blueness [00:38:00] for the first time in a long time. Like usually I, I, I'm never down and every time that are wake up and I'm like, man, you know, when is this going to end?

[00:38:09] I, the coughy box pulls me out of it. So it's pretty palpable. Um, You know, the herbs, like I said, I think it hit you right away. And then the, the strains hit you a little later.

[00:38:19] Carl Lanore: [00:38:19] Now you talk about, uh, some groups out there using probiotics, but actually using blends that cancel each other out. Talk about that.

[00:38:29] How some strains cancel other strains out.

[00:38:34] Matt Gallant: [00:38:34] Well, if you're not doing it experiments again, they're throwing a mishmash of maybes in a bottle, right? They're not, they're not running the experiments to see. Who's killing who, you know, are they, are they a cooperator or

[00:38:48] Carl Lanore: [00:38:48] competitive? So

[00:38:51] Matt Gallant: [00:38:51] I, you know, that's, that's the general question that we're highly focused on answering.

[00:38:56] And again, we haven't answered it. We know that it's not [00:39:00] killing each other and they're not harming good bacteria. So I can't speak for other companies, but as far as I know, nobody's set up a lab like we have, I mean, I haven't heard anybody talk about it. Then this in the industry.

[00:39:13] Carl Lanore: [00:39:13] So, yeah. So, um, should these be taken on an empty stomach?

[00:39:18] Like I've given up coffee, so buttered coffee in the morning. Isn't an option for me. Can I just take them on an empty stomach or what, what could I take them with or the pad of butter? Well,

[00:39:28] Matt Gallant: [00:39:28] no, you just, you know, I mean, first of all, anything that's fat soluble. You want to take all your fat soluble products in one shot and you can take it with fish oil.

[00:39:37] So for an example, CBD. They've shown it to be eight times more effective if you take it with

[00:39:45] Carl Lanore: [00:39:45] food with, with fatty

[00:39:46] Matt Gallant: [00:39:46] foods. So, and you know, here's the thing. If you take your strains, your probiotics with

[00:39:52] Carl Lanore: [00:39:52] food,

[00:39:53] Matt Gallant: [00:39:53] you shouldn't my opinion in general, other than pee for real lamb. And we talked about that on that show.

[00:39:59] Carl Lanore: [00:39:59] Um,

[00:40:00] [00:39:59] Matt Gallant: [00:39:59] it just benefits that strain on an empty stomach. I like taking it strains with food. Why? Because you're feeding them. If you're taking those, they're just a protein shake with whatever strawberries, whatever your shake is. Um, you know, they're gonna, they're gonna start eating the sugar. They're gonna feed off of that.

[00:40:16] So you're going to help the doubling rate. Um, and you can always add more prebiotics shake and feed them. So

[00:40:23] Carl Lanore: [00:40:23] I don't

[00:40:23] Matt Gallant: [00:40:23] like, I don't believe in taking probiotics on an empty stomach, except for  because that is very, uh, specific to cleaning house. Right. And. You know, it's a, just a different animal. Right?

[00:40:38] Carl Lanore: [00:40:38] Right.

[00:40:38] Matt Gallant: [00:40:38] So in general,

[00:40:41] Carl Lanore: [00:40:41] do I just take cognitive Biotics once a day or can I take it twice a day and do I have to avoid taking it too close to sleep?

[00:40:50] Matt Gallant: [00:40:50] It really boosts energy. I mean, it's not like CapEx, you know, CapEx. Like if you take that for bed, you might have some issues. You will have some issues. Most, most [00:41:00] people do,

[00:41:01] Carl Lanore: [00:41:01] but

[00:41:01] Matt Gallant: [00:41:01] no, it's not.

[00:41:02] Again. Serotonin is actually helps you sleep. So serotonin is one of the precursors to melatonin, right? So, so there was no, I actually haven't experimented. I take it in the morning. I mean, that's, that's how I've been taking

[00:41:18] Carl Lanore: [00:41:18] it.

[00:41:18] Matt Gallant: [00:41:18] I actually have not experimented with taking it before bed. I'm realizing that right now.

[00:41:22] Um, so I'll probably try that because the serotonin would probably enhance sleep quite a bit. Anything that I've taken that enhances serotonin has improved my sleep significantly. So theoretically it

[00:41:35] Carl Lanore: [00:41:35] should boost, you know, we did a show yesterday on 'em. Uh, psychedelics and how they interact with the brain.

[00:41:43] And they've discovered an area of the brain called the claustrum, which is a very, very narrow sheet of tissue that occupies both the right and left hemisphere, but has nerves that go into every region of the brain. And [00:42:00] I asked the question, is that why synesthesia happens? Because it's affecting all these other executive functions in the brain from this one area.

[00:42:08] But what I learned yesterday was, and I never knew this was psychedelic drugs, like psilocybin and LSD. They dock in the serotonin receptor and that's how they import hallucinations. And I, I, I thought for sure there was like a different receptor entirely. The serotonin receptor keeps coming back as being a massive or receptor, you know, you have them in your heart.

[00:42:35] You have serotonin receptors in your gut, you have serotonin receptors in just about all tissue it's in the brain. I mean, it's just, it's ubiquitous. So I wonder if I'm using a product like this. Has any effect effect, and I'm not, I'm not trying to promote it as this, but I just have this funny feeling that people say, you know, I also noticed that my achy joint doesn't hurt as bad when I, when I use cognitive [00:43:00] Biotics, I know it's a for cognition, but is there, is there any evidence that people notice the soreness and pain go away?

[00:43:06] Cause considering this serotonin receptor so ubiquitous and it has a role in analgesia as well.

[00:43:15] Matt Gallant: [00:43:15] It's possible. Um, I can't say I've talked to anybody that's reported that most people just report better mood feeling better. Their brains is performing better. Um, but you know, we all know that if your boost, your serotonin, your, I mean, for anyone who's done ecstasy, we know we know what the effects are.

[00:43:36] Uh, you, you feel pretty good. You're not feeling a whole lot of pain. Yeah.

[00:43:40] Carl Lanore: [00:43:40] And you know, I I'm really interested in low dose. MTMA just enough to make you feel like life is good, but not enough to make you feel like you want to roll around with strangers and have sex. Uh, I think that just, and I think the, I think the college of London has been working on a low dose MTMA and major depressive disorder [00:44:00] study as of last year.

[00:44:02] Um, I could be wrong. I'm almost positive. It's them.

[00:44:06] Matt Gallant: [00:44:06] A good friend of mine, um, in, in New York had some brutal trauma happened to him when he was 12, he got raped by two men. They filmed it and they actually terror the terrorists STEM, um, for a long time, like past the incident.

[00:44:26] Carl Lanore: [00:44:26] Right. Yeah. Sure. And.

[00:44:31] Matt Gallant: [00:44:31] It really is a really high performers, credibly high level coach with professional athletes.

[00:44:37] And you know, that trauma trauma will. Lead us to build either character defects or character assets, almost in order to prevent that trauma from happening again. And if you track all of your character defects and character assets, you can usually track them back to a trauma. I know I've done that self and that's been the case.

[00:45:00] [00:45:00] Now what he did is he with a. Psychiatrists did MTMA and it was incredibly, again, this is prescription, um, under supervised guidance and it was incredibly effective for him to help release these traumas. So that really excited, I think. All of these, these plants and substances that have been made illegal.

[00:45:21] A lot of them at the right dose have incredible benefits. The poison is, is the dose, you know, the poison and yeah. You know, there's certain things that at the right dose are credibly beneficial and other doses create incredible problems. I mean, we could kill ourselves with anything. We could kill ourselves.

[00:45:38] We want order.

[00:45:39] Carl Lanore: [00:45:39] Yeah.

[00:45:40] Matt Gallant: [00:45:40] Right. Like there's an L does it help me 50 for everything? So, um, It's just about figuring out what's the right dose for you and what's the right dose for what you're trying to do.

[00:45:50] Carl Lanore: [00:45:50] So I want to promote this product again, because what are the unique things about BiOptimizers is that they put their money where their mouth is, and there's a 365 day money back [00:46:00] guarantee on the product.

[00:46:00] If you decide that it's not for you, send it back, they'll refund your money. Um, I would imagine they refund the money except for shipping. Shipping is a sunk cost. I'm assuming I have never asked that question to you before, but I'm assuming that's what it is, but the product is called cognitive Biotics.

[00:46:17] And if you go to the website, S H R N E T w O R k.biz, SHR network.biz/better brain and use the code SHR 10, you can save close to 50% off. This product. And on top of that, if it doesn't work for you, you're not, you're not out anything. Cause you gotta get your money back. Uh, everybody, there were very few sponsors that I have that I don't get the occasional email from a listener saying, well, they didn't do this or they didn't do that.

[00:46:51] Or they said they were going to do this and they didn't do that. Or they didn't reply to my email. I've got no comments from any listeners other than positive ones. [00:47:00] About BiOptimizers there that's a big deal to me because I get a lot of heat from, you know, we have a company that we promoted, it was a epigenetic tests.

[00:47:12] Like everybody's still waiting for their results. It's been months now. And I get emails all the time from the people like, you know, I paid for this thing. It's like three months now, when am I going to get my results? So I get that and I get nothing but positive. Uh, interactions from the audience about your company.

[00:47:27] And that makes that's a big deal for me, cause that makes my life so much easier that you're actually doing what you say you're going to do. Uh, so the, the product actually got, I'm sorry,

[00:47:38] Matt Gallant: [00:47:38] but just to comment on that, I mean, we are just as obsessed with customer support and customer experience as we are about the products.

[00:47:47] And I think that's where a lot of companies fail. Um, you know, I've been building businesses for 23 years and, uh, you know, I had my growing pains where I didn't focus on that, or we didn't focus on that with other businesses, but, [00:48:00] you know, ways that an incredible job of our customer support team is just absolutely world class.

[00:48:05] And, you know, we try to answer every ticket and less than 20 minutes, just to give you an example of some of the parameters were we're tracking it shooting for. So, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, we're trying to be just absolutely world class product service experience. So that. You know, people are really happy with us.

[00:48:25] Yeah.

[00:48:26] Carl Lanore: [00:48:26] Again, cognitive Biotics, go to SHR network.biz/better brain. Get yours today. Use the code SHR 10, save up to 49% off. Uh, if you're not happy with it, send it back. They'll refund your money. We're going to take a quick commercial break later in the show at the top of the hour, uh, for years I've talked about ionizing radiation, it's basically a blowtorch effect to trying to rid the body of cancer.

[00:48:49] It's one of the standards of care. And we've talked about studies that show that women who have radiation done on left breast develop heart problems later on in life, a new study just [00:49:00] came out, looking at a 341 individuals who underwent pediatric cancer treatment. And what happens to them later on in life from ionizing radiation.

[00:49:11] It's not good. It's not good. And we need to speak about this because right now there's a kid in a hospital. Getting zapped right this minute. And while the cancer may go away, uh, lifelong problems will be replaced, uh, by that tumor stay tuned with Brett

[00:49:32] You know, there are so many people in this audience that I've grown to know over. 14 years that I always think to myself, man, I would really like to hang out with that person. And one of them is Ivo SU uh, but he's, he's concurring what I said, you know, same for me. Chronometer emailed me this week saying it'll be another four to five weeks for DNA test results.

[00:49:53] Fingers crossed everybody been waiting and they're off the air now. Um, I've, I've removed myself and, [00:50:00] uh, from the relationship because. I can't in good conscience. Keep telling people to order their tests if nobody's getting results back. And I don't think they're scamming. I just think that, I just think they put the cart before the horse type of a thing.

[00:50:13] I think they're all good people.

[00:50:15] Matt Gallant: [00:50:15] What's that probably

[00:50:17] Carl Lanore: [00:50:17] overwhelmed. Yeah. I, you know, they're really doing some amazing things. What they're doing is there's a whole learning curve too. Um, there, when you, when you're a trailblazer in any. Uh, area of industry, uh, there's a lot of unknowns, but you can't keep, can't keep taking people's money and saying, Hey, you know, five more weeks.

[00:50:39] Hey, five more weeks. Hey, five more weeks. That only goes so far. People, people become, uh, very, very different then after a while. So does this product stack well with any of the other BiOptimizers products? Do you see a synergy with like, say CapEx or anything like that?

[00:50:57] Matt Gallant: [00:50:57] Yeah. Oh, yeah. The brain [00:51:00] stack, um, that, that kind of my go to brain stack is, is CapEx, cogni, and then the primer gen VNM, which is the minerals and vitamins.

[00:51:09] Now the other thing, and you can add, which will pretend  we just, I just got pictures three days ago from Manya PhD. The wait, you got guardian, we'll come back and talk about it, but the biofilm. Growth is incredible off of that product. So what I'm doing now is I'm stacking. Um, I'm taking my probiotics with that product because the it's not just the, there's a couple, there's three strains in that formula, but it's the Igy and all the other ingredients that are again feeding and, and just creating an environment for the bacteria to, to be very happy.

[00:51:53] So that's the key. You know, basically it's a biofilm builder.

[00:51:57] Carl Lanore: [00:51:57] Do you believe there are companies out there? [00:52:00] In the health industry, calling on doctors, offices, selling products that they say promises to break down biofilms. There are companies out there that are talking about biofilm. Like it's, it's not, Oh, you got to get rid of the mucus.

[00:52:16] You got to get it the biofilm. You don't want all that biofilm. Oh, that gunky biofilm. And I remember I went to, um, w Lisa was working in the nutraceutical industry. She worked from, uh, Metagenics I'm sure you're familiar with Metagenics. Okay. And so we went to one of these group meetings where everybody was, had their products on display.

[00:52:37] There's this one company, I won't mention a name. They, a lot of physicians use their products and their whole angle is breaking down. Biofilm. And I remember telling the girl at one and a table, I said, I told her the story about the interview I did about how a cirrhosis of the liver starts. It. It's not alcohol's direct gut.

[00:52:58] Well, yeah, technically that's [00:53:00] what it is. And, and the stuff is leaking into the, into the liver. And so. I'm like, why would you want to break down biofilm? Like your that's like saying, we want to take down the walls of your house to make your life better. It's like, no, I need walls. You know what I mean? So it's really part of the problem is when people don't know this stuff, they're apt to believe the first person who comes along to talk about it.

[00:53:24] Now that makes sense. It's like snot. It's like mucus. You want to get rid of that? No,

[00:53:28] Matt Gallant: [00:53:28] biofilm is good setting.

[00:53:30] Carl Lanore: [00:53:30] Yeah. Yeah. It sounds good. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's really scary.

[00:53:35] Matt Gallant: [00:53:35] Yeah. I think again, like a guardian, um, credible product, that again, you can take any probiotic with it and yeah. It's okay. And there were the reasons people are getting leaky gut is because the signals, the environment, the food that they're going through, the intestinal tract is not conducive to growing biofilm.

[00:53:57] So they get these. Punctures are the, [00:54:00] you know, there's not enough biofilm in the junctions. And then basically we food passes through and affects the immune system. Very negatively, of course, autoimmune issues plus other problems. So w we'll talk more of that, but nurse show, but as far as stacks go, I'd say on the brain side, CapEx, cogni Biotics primer, gen VNM, you will have

[00:54:21] Carl Lanore: [00:54:21] energy and mood.

[00:54:23] That's kind

[00:54:23] Matt Gallant: [00:54:23] of the ultimate combination, right? I've been playing with nootropics now for. Many many years, and I've just found what works really well for me. And again, it's not about getting amped up on caffeine. Caffeine is an awesome, uh, neutral pick, but I'm a slow caffeine metabolizer. I do maybe 50 to 100 milligrams of caffeine a day.

[00:54:42] More than that, I just don't feel that good. And you know, what's caffeine doing, of course it's bumping up cortisol adrenaline, but it's, it's all about I look at and your transmitters are an orchestra. Right. If you just got the bass, that's just too loud. It doesn't sound good. It doesn't feel good. [00:55:00] So if we get the serotonin rock and we get dopamine, you know, we get a seal Coleen, we get Gabba, you know, a little bit of adrenaline, a little bit of cortisol, the right dosages, the right times of the day is good.

[00:55:11] Um, but what people tend to do is just overstimulate themselves with. Caffeine or other things. And their cortisol is just out of control. Drilling's out of control and, you know, they might get adrenal burnout and then it just stops working. I mean, you know, your caffeine receptors, uh, get, get adapted very fast.

[00:55:31] So all, all the caffeine does at what point it's just. You know, get the crowd off your eyes in the morning. And that's it.

[00:55:38] Carl Lanore: [00:55:38] I was back up to a 1500 milligrams a day, just a couple days ago. I was drinking three to four bang energy drinks a day. And I was also using other forms of caffeine. And I can tell you that, wow, I get to this point, Matt, where.

[00:55:52] I drink three bangs and I'm like thinking maybe I need a fourth one. And I think, okay, it's not working. I can't do this anymore. I just can't do this anymore. See, this started [00:56:00] when I was power lifting my routine when I was power lifting was 303 milligrams of caffeine anhydrous on the way to the gym. Yep.

[00:56:07] Train for two hours, 300 milligrams after the gym so that I could live my life and work. And that just blossomed into like two grams a day and caffeine. Wow. I think I've actually developed an allergic reaction. Caffeine. I have some really weird. Physical symptoms. When I take too much caffeine, I actually completely forgot.

[00:56:27] One day. I literally had the closest thing that I can imagine to an Alzheimer's moment. I had prepared for a show. I was all ready to do a show. I had just had it like the second bang. All of a sudden, I was like, what show am I doing today? And I was looking at work that I had just done and didn't recognize that.

[00:56:45] And I thought is that what I prepared is that today's show. I was like, Oh my God, I co-run Pena about it. My brain just went offline. It just went off blind. It was like, it wasn't even my brain anymore.

[00:56:56] Matt Gallant: [00:56:56] Well, here's, here's what happens when your stress levels and [00:57:00] stress, we quantify stress with cortisol and adrenaline, right?

[00:57:03] I mean, the more stressed you are, the more cortisol adrenaline noradrenaline goes up. What it does. It blows out your hippocampus, which blows out your short term memory. I mean, we've all experienced that to different degrees. That sounds like you took it to the extreme. I mean, I can't even imagine taking two grams of caffeine.

[00:57:21] I. I really can. I

[00:57:23] Carl Lanore: [00:57:23] don't know. I'm an asshole. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not supposed to curse. I'm a jerk. I know I'm a jerk. I have an addictive personality. It started in the sixties with drugs and so caffeine is gone. I. Stopped cold Turkey. I feel pretty bad right now. Uh, but I know that in a week I'll feel fine.

[00:57:40] We'll bring said he ordered a bottle to try Matt owes me a drink or for if, and when we can get back to Panama, which as Matt points out is under lockdown, like no other country in the world. So there you go. If we'll break buys it it's worthy of your time dollars as well. Wait, he said something else. I, you need to use my bomb.

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[00:58:39] You'll get up to 49% off. See you soon, brother. Okay. Maybe I'll cut. When the lockdown is over. I want to come to Panama, Lisa and I talked about getting a place there someday, so

[00:58:49] Matt Gallant: [00:58:49] yeah. Yeah. We'll uh, we'll go get some dinner. We will

[00:58:52] Carl Lanore: [00:58:52] book a book, show it, show it around. I look, talk to you later. Thank you so much for being here today.

[00:58:56] Okay. All right. We're going to take one quick commercial break. When we come [00:59:00] back, I want to talk about ionizing radiation. You know, it's one of the standards of care for cancer. We already have some comments from people who are anticipating this. And it turns out that if you're a kid and you receive ionizing radiation, you should be prepared for problems later on in life that have nothing to do with the cancer.

[00:59:19] They were treating. Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

[00:59:27] welcome back.

[00:59:32] So a paper was published in the American association for cancer research, looking at radiation to treat pediatric cancers and how it has some lasting impact on both heart and metabolic health. This is scary. It really is. So

[00:59:50] the time where people were willing to accept that the therapy that they got

[00:59:54] Matt Gallant: [00:59:54] extended their life by a year.

[00:59:56] Carl Lanore: [00:59:56] People were no longer willing to accept that we, we see through [01:00:00] this. Now we understand that pretty much by and large, most cancer care is nonsense. You're saying Carl, how could it be nonsense? Well, because to stay in this, in this lane here, that we're talking about ionizing radiation, because chemotherapy is poison.

[01:00:21] It poisoned the whole body in hopes of killing some cancer cells. And I've said on this show for years, treating cancer with chemotherapy is tantamount to burning down your entire house because you have a stain on the carpet in your living room. It really is. That's not an exaggeration. That's really what it's like.

[01:00:42] So ionizing radiation is a beam of radiation that. Kills the cancer cells, but it's not that precise. They have very focused forms of it now, but it still passes through tissue [01:01:00] to get to where the tumor is. Usually they're using it on solid tumors. The tissue it passes through gets damaged too. I remember reading the first study about this.

[01:01:11] It's gotta be 12 or 13 years ago that showed that women. Who had treated for left breast cancer, a tumor with ionizing radiation generally develop heart problems within four or five years after the treatment. So they didn't die of the cancer. The tumor didn't grow, it didn't spread, but then they died of heart failure or a problem with their heart.

[01:01:37] That was a result of the treatment cancer treatment. Doesn't doesn't consider that a loss. They consider that a win. They say, well, You didn't die of cancer. So that's a win. Who cares if you died three years later because of the treatment. I mean, it's this anyways, to consider that a win it's shameful, it's shameful that that's the medical [01:02:00] orthodoxy grades themselves.

[01:02:04] It's great for cancer research funding and. Donations and Oh yeah, we're winning, you know, we're saving 80% of the lives we treated, we saved, but no, they all died within two or three years from the treatment. We see this in chemo to SIS. Plantain is a very popular chemotherapy given for a variety of cancers.

[01:02:24] It obliterates the kidneys and usually die from some sort of kidney failure or kidney problems later on in life. So I think it's wise for people to start looking at, Hey, we have children, we're treating their, you know, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years old. And what is, what are the, what are the changes in their, uh, life expectancy and so on?

[01:02:50] And we've already known some of this. They've done some of this work already, but they decided to look at some more obscure, like, okay, we know that. [01:03:00] Yeah. If you treat the left side of the body and the heart gets in the way the heart is damaged, we know that. But, but what happens if you treat the pelvic area?

[01:03:07] This is kind of a innocuous area. There's not a lot of organs there. Um, it's not like you're going through tissue of the heart or the lungs or the spleen or the kidneys. So they looked at, uh, solid tumors in the pelvic area. And what they found out was a 341, um, patients that were tracked over many years, they found out that these individuals who underwent ionizing radiation to treat solid tumors in the area of the pelvis, are you ready for this and the abdominal region?

[01:03:49] So to be fair, okay. They ended up developing heart problems. And metabolic problems. And [01:04:00] the thing that I find fascinating about this study is that not only do they point out one of the metabolic problems, but they also indirectly, um, make a hero out of muscle tissue, something that the medical orthodoxy pretty much doesn't pay attention to.

[01:04:21] Right. They really don't think muscle serves any valuable purpose. If they did surely they would prescribe weightlifting. Right? I mean, come on. They're doctors, right? They prescribe everything. Oh, if your blood pressure, hi, let's give you a pill. Your cholesterol is too high. Let's give you clue the medication.

[01:04:39] If you're saying ed will give you a pill to make you less sad, they give a pill for everything. Clearly, if they thought muscle was important, they do something about that too. Right? You don't even need a pill. Write a prescription for them to your patient to get a personal trainer, have the insurance company pay for the gym membership and have them train and have them come in once a quarter and see, do a DEXA [01:05:00] scan and go, Oh good.

[01:05:01] You're getting better. You put on more muscle. They really don't do that because they really don't care about that. But in this study, what they found out was that the, uh, the, the individuals, uh, later on in life, a large percentage of them develop heart problems. Once again, exposure to ionizing radiation.

[01:05:18] But a bigger problem occurred and that was their inability to gain and maintain lean body mass muscle. The ionizing radiation does, I think, to the body on a metabolic level that causes lean mass to deteriorate. And more importantly, it appears at least from these individuals, they have a harder time putting it on.

[01:05:44] And that's pretty scary to me because that leads to a lot of problems. It's not just metabolic, right? If you, if you lose muscle, you can't ambulate. You can't walk, you can't go up the stairs. You may have to be in a wheelchair at 50 or 60 instead of 80 or 90. And [01:06:00] yeah, I think the, the fascinating line from the study was that an individual with lower lean body mass burns fewer calories while resting than someone would higher lean body mass.

[01:06:12] The author Wilson explained. Think about that for a second. In the face of obesity, in the face of metabolic disorders from obesity and the face of diseases from obesity. That one sentence, yes, there is like, is anyone paying attention to what this guy just said? Therefore individuals of lower lean body mass burn, fewer calories while resting than someone with higher lean body mass.

[01:06:41] So is anyone going to write a study that shows that if people would just put on body mass muscle, I'm sorry, lean body mass, they put on muscle that we could reverse the obesity epidemic both directly and indirectly. Like how did they miss that? How do they write that sentence? And then ignore [01:07:00] the.

[01:07:02] Various downstream implications of that statement.

[01:07:09] I don't know, man. I scratch my head sometimes, but more importantly, what I want to convey to those of you who are listening and watching is this, that ionizing radiation is horrible. It's horrible. It is basically a blow torch. To the tissue that they're trying to destroy and all surrounding tissue, and now we're learning, it could actually have, uh, extreme effects throughout the entire body.

[01:07:40] So you're just exposed to it in this area here, but it does something to the tissue in your chest and in your shoulders and in your back and in your legs and everything else. How is this a standard of care? How is this barbaric approach to treating tumors? Like we know that. In many. So I say this [01:08:00] sometimes, well, the ketogenic diet shrinks tumors, while it doesn't shrink all tumors, it just shrinks tumors that are glycolytic.

[01:08:06] And then there's these other tumors that don't respond. Okay, great. Let's say a trigger. 50% of the tumors does doesn't hurt you like ionizing. Radiation does. I mean, ionizing radiation doesn't work on brain tumors. You don't see anybody going arguing. Well, well, ionizing radiation shouldn't be used cause it doesn't work on brain tumors.

[01:08:25] I mean, it's I run out of energy when I I'm faced with these stupid circular arguments. It just baffles me, uh, The ketogenic diet shrinks tumors, including brain tumors. So give that a try first, like ionizing radiation should not be standard of care. It shouldn't be the first go to thing that doctors prescribe.

[01:08:49] It should be the last, because it has lifelong damaging effects to the body. Just like chemotherapy does chemotherapy is going to take years off your [01:09:00] life. I don't care what you say because it's poison. If you take poison today, a large enough amount to make your hair fall out and for you to feel like crap, every time you take the poison that you have to stay in bed for four days, it's going to take a couple of years off your life.

[01:09:14] I think we can all agree on that. Right? So these standards of care for cancer therapy. By and large have been accepted because the idea of dying from cancer is so scary for people that they're willing to try something else that they'll end up dying from anyway, just to eke out an extra year of life and don't get me wrong.

[01:09:36] I am not making fun of people who want to live an extra year. I could be one of those people someday, but let's weigh the consequences of the therapy being applied to. Lifespan. Like, what are we doing to these kids? When we expose them to radiation, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look, it looks like they have lifelong challenges.

[01:09:57] Okay. So the cancer's gone and I guess doctors [01:10:00] feel like, well, what are you complaining about? I saved you from the cancer. You're in grateful son of a gun. That's not how it's supposed to be. That's not how medicine is supposed to be. It's supposed to be first, do no harm. Clearly, clearly. Anybody can see that the standards of care for cancer do harm.

[01:10:20] And I say, find the better way. Stop looking for genetic approaches. Start looking at things that work now that we know that don't do harm, start with diet. We know that cancer is a metabolic disease. We know that it starts. And it can, it can be altered by diet. We know these things. Those should be the first, that's the first thing the doctor should prescribe.

[01:10:42] Hey, I'm going to put you on a ketogenic diet. I'm going to have you work with the diet coach. They're going to teach you how to eat. We're going to come back. We're going to look at this tumor in a couple of months. That's what doctors should be doing first. The fact that they don't is sad and their lives being shortened right now, [01:11:00] there are lives being impacted right now because the standards of care do harm.

[01:11:07] People need to start being more vocal about it. They need to start telling doctors, I don't want chemo. I don't want radiation. Give me something else. Use your brain. Go back to the book, read the research, find me something else. No, he'll fire you say, nah, I don't want to do that. You have to do what I want you to do.

[01:11:27] Michael Nippert said they offered him seed radiation for prostate cancer, talking to people well about it. They say, if it comes back, it's more difficult to deal with it. I don't think any kind of radiation is good. I've heard about the seed radiation. They basically energize these metallic seeds and implant them in the prostate.

[01:11:47] So they're radiating all the time in your prostate. Now think about what we just said. There's other tissue near the prostate. Maybe you end up with colon cancer from that you don't know. I [01:12:00] mean, it's right there.

[01:12:04] Yes. It's very sad. It's very, very sad. The standards of care for cancer are pretty much a death sentence. Just like the cancer may well be. We need to demand more from our physicians and if. If muscle is in fact metabolic currency, like I've been saying all along. Why aren't doctors prescribing resistance training, working with a personal trainer, getting on a bodybuilding diet for older people.

[01:12:32] Maybe some anabolics muscle is important. I mean, it's not, it's not just a, Oh yeah. You just want to be muscular cush. It makes you look good. No, it makes you live longer too. All right. Today is Friday. We have great shows all week next week. Thanks to Elisa. Profumo. Please share the show. Please go to our Instagram and follow at superhuman radio.

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