[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] welcome back to another episode of super human radio. We have a fascinating show for you today. I have been very slow to get on the ozone bandwagon. Quite frankly. I really didn't think there was a lot of science behind it, but apparently there is, and we have a guy that's going to be on the show in just a minute.

[00:00:18] Dr. Justin, Aaron basic, uh, who is part of the wild health, uh, team of physicians. Um, Who was actually certified, uh, highly certified to practice medicine using ozone. And we're going to get to the bottom of it. You know, I, like I said, I was very skeptical. Um, some of the people that wanted me to consider, uh, ozone therapy, I didn't really trust their judgment.

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[00:02:29] So check them out, let them know that I sent you, please. Now without further delay. We have dr. Justin Aaron basic. He is a physician practicing with the wild health group in Lexington, Kentucky. Welcome to the show, Justin, did I say Jason GSL or did I say Justin?

[00:02:50] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:02:50] You said Justin. Okay.

[00:02:51] Carl Lanore: [00:02:51] I, you know, I'm like, I'm doing 60 things at one time and trying to think.

[00:02:56] I am 62 years old. So, uh, welcome to the show [00:03:00] and it's nice to see you again. I saw you just about a month or so ago in Lexington. How are you?

[00:03:06] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:03:06] I'm great. Thanks for asking. Thank you for having me. It's an honor and a privilege to be here, so thank you very much.

[00:03:12] Carl Lanore: [00:03:12] I shared with you last time we were together that I've been very skeptical about.

[00:03:17] Ozone. Cause it almost sounds like the Carney side show snake oil. It's good food for everything. At least if you talk to some people it's good for everything and you were very quick to point out that it's good for some things. And I thought that that just that alone made me trust the information from you because, uh, the people well, and I've talked to before, say that it cures everything from aging to a gray hair.

[00:03:43] You know, it's like everything in between. And so, first of all, what exactly is ozone for the audience? Right? It's a gas, right?

[00:03:53] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:03:53] Absolutely. It's a. Before I start, I'll say that. Absolutely. Without question, it does not cure gray hair.

[00:04:00] [00:04:00] Carl Lanore: [00:04:00] I wish it would look at me. Look at me. This is my COVID hair. I dyed my hair for the better part of 12 years and one COVID-19.

[00:04:09] Yeah. Megan, I'm old gray. So there you go. Right?

[00:04:13] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:04:13] I think Ray's a good luck.

[00:04:15] Carl Lanore: [00:04:15] Yeah, I'm stuck with it. Now. The cat, the cat is out of the bag. There's no going back. So what exactly is ozone adjusting? So

[00:04:24] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:04:24] ozone is oxygen. It is just the oxygen that is made when the oxygen you breathe, the OTU is split and reforms with three molecules auctions.

[00:04:37] So it's Oh three. And how that happens is the most common way it happens. Isn't think about the ozone in the ozone layer and that's solar radiation hitting oxygen in the atmosphere and built up the ozone layer. The other really common way that it happens is lightning lightning charges it's splits the oxygen and then it [00:05:00] reforms in two Oh three.

[00:05:01] And that's why after you go to work on a lightning storm, you're outside. You can, you can smell it.

[00:05:07] Carl Lanore: [00:05:07] Yeah. So for people who don't know what an ozone smells like. It almost has a mild ocean water smell and it's, but it's very, it's very distinguishable. You can tell when there's high levels of ozone in the air, because the air has this, this, how would you describe this?

[00:05:27] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:05:27] I think that the water aspect is really good. I always think about like maybe a Lake or pond. Yes,

[00:05:33] Carl Lanore: [00:05:33] yes, yes. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. So like, I never knew that so lightening can actually be an ozone generator of sorts then.

[00:05:42] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:05:42] Yeah. And here's an amazing fact to word. I learned that in Venezuela, there is a, what's called the cat Tombow lightning storms and they produce 10% of the owners though in the world because they have a rate of 1 million, 1.2 [00:06:00] million lightning strikes.

[00:06:02] A year there and just constantly shooting out this lightning maze, you know, his own generator.

[00:06:08] Carl Lanore: [00:06:08] So does ozone does ozone, uh, can it go back and forth from being ozone to just being regular Oh two or once it's ozone it stays that way?

[00:06:20] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:06:20] Uh, no, it's, it's, it's highly reactive and unstable. It's half-life if you put it in maybe a glass container.

[00:06:28] It all this mutated rate, 50% in 45 minutes, plastic, 30 minutes. Uh, it's very reactive out in the air that only lasts seconds.

[00:06:39] Carl Lanore: [00:06:39] So what is ozone 40? What, what is ozone therapy? When we take ozone and we use it for different therapeutic purposes, what are the different ways that we can use ozone?

[00:06:52] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:06:52] So. If you're to get up, there's multiple different way.

[00:06:58] The most traditional way. It's, [00:07:00] what's known as major auto chemotherapy. And that's when you take blood in an IB bag, whether it's a bag or it's a bottle and you pull out a set amount and then after that's removed you, then put ozone through the bag or the bottle. And it is then mixed directly with the blood.

[00:07:23] It comes in contact with the blood immediately forming what's known as lipid peroxides, approximate, or always is an odds. And these OES and ides are what gets puts back in the body because the ozone itself is reacted in the blood immediately. It is gone snap of the fingers. It's these owes and eyes that have an effect in the blood.

[00:07:44] Nice. That was an idol, you know, then travel, you know, throughout your entire system, having a multiple affects through it. And that's how I was known. A lot of visitation is done. Uh, the other types that you can use are rectal insufflation.

[00:07:59] Carl Lanore: [00:07:59] Ooh, that [00:08:00] sounds like a party.

[00:08:03] Oh yeah. Hey everybody come over to the house. We're doing rectal, uh, uh, ozone later.

[00:08:10] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:08:10] Could you imagine absolutely what a cell, right? But it's a

[00:08:17] Carl Lanore: [00:08:17] men, men always revert back to nine year old boys, anytime, poop, rectal, anything like that comes into play. It's like we become nine-year-olds again. Oh yeah.

[00:08:28] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:08:28] You can't even say modeling, but.

[00:08:32] Yeah, it's, uh, it's, uh, rectally given, uh, and it's quite effective that way. Uh, not, not as effective as the blood, but it's nice because then you don't have to deal with that IB stick. You can do it at home. If you have your own homo ozone generator know, we can do it here office too. Uh, so that's another one it's given another way.

[00:08:54] It's Lynn bagging. Like you can take a bag and put the, yeah, it goes on into it and cover up a [00:09:00] limb. If you had say a lettuce. Or fungal infections. I know you've talked about that before in the past, but you wrap up the bag with the ozone head and let it sit there for about 30 minutes. And it's an amazing cure for fungal infections with skin you can do.

[00:09:16] Insufflation where you like literally put a step scope in. You can use. Bladder is the placement, which is amazing for interstitial cystitis. And those people are very miserable. If it's one treatment that works very effectively for that,

[00:09:33] Carl Lanore: [00:09:33] does the colon, how do you say it? Insufflation

[00:09:37] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:09:37] insufflation

[00:09:37] Carl Lanore: [00:09:37] so does the colon insufflation also benefit the prostate.

[00:09:43] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:09:43] It can, but you can also inject. Directly in front of them or by the prostate, some people will inject into the prostate, but if you get it right around the prostate, it's very beneficial. If you expose it, uh, to the OST as multiple benefits for prostate [00:10:00] problems, uh, the, the bladder insufflation is also excellent.

[00:10:05] And you can use things both at the same time. You can, you can even triple, you can do an IB and the rectal at the same time. Or an IB and a bladder at the same time, but to be effects for prostititus are well known. Uh, the other ones that are good for the native water, you can always eat water and drink it.

[00:10:24] Carl Lanore: [00:10:24] Okay. So that's a very common, easy way to expose yourself to ozone. What does that do to the microbiome? Does it have any effects on the microbiome?

[00:10:37] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:10:37] That's a subject that people have different opinions on. Um, but by and large, I don't think so. So in a lot of lectures I went to, they said that they don't think so either.

[00:10:49] Some people believe it might have if any, a minor effect and it's easily managed with some probiotics, if you did have any effect, but by and large, nobody [00:11:00] nobody's really seen much of an effect for

[00:11:01] Carl Lanore: [00:11:01] that. Okay. So putting different, uh, areas of the body in contact with ozone is where the value comes from.

[00:11:10] I like the blood infused ozone because I always thought they actually infused ozone into your blood, but that would be reckless because. You would end up with air of some sort or gas and then that could cause some problems. So they actually, they, they draw your blood, they ozonated, and then they put it back into you.

[00:11:30] People say they feel something. Do you feel something? Do you think you really feel something when that blood is, is, is reinfused?

[00:11:37] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:11:37] Yeah, I I've heard it from multiple people. They have increased energy. They have better mental alertness. They have better exercise tolerance. I even had one that has asthma and said, you know, exercise induced asthma.

[00:11:53] Anyway, when he went in play basketball, after that, I have a flare other that has no whatsoever.

[00:12:00] [00:12:00] Carl Lanore: [00:12:00] So a very common problem we have today. And there's a lot of debate whether it's mitochondrial generated or we have a lot of people have chronic fatigue, it could be a byproduct of auto-immunity. It could be a byproduct of mitochondrial dysfunction.

[00:12:15] It could be a byproduct of other things that we haven't discovered yet. Is there any evidence that ozone benefits, people who suffer from chronic fatigue?

[00:12:26] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:12:26] Absolutely. That's one of the, since it's most well-researched, especially in regards to the mitochondrial function, it is a known metabolic stimulant mitochondria function goes up.

[00:12:38] And the way that it works like that is that we can measure an increased arterial vein is difference. So of oxygen's the, the amount of oxygen use. So from your vein to your artery, You can do a treatment and it will be narrow. And then after the treatments, you can see this big, wide name, so less oxygen [00:13:00] in the venous return.

[00:13:01] So when you see this, what does that, what takes the oxygen out of the blood, the mitochondria, the mitochondria use it. So then when you see this, it makes the mitochondria work better. That's what it means. They're using more oxygen when they're using more oxygen. What does that do? It gives you more energy.

[00:13:18] And so then it creates this mitochondrial biogenesis, mitochondrial, or flourish, and people have more energy, less fatigue. It's excellent for chronic fatigue state.

[00:13:31] Carl Lanore: [00:13:31] So do you think, so we know that if you follow the work of dr. Thomas C freed and many others now, after he had his, his original research, we know that cancer is a metabolic disorder.

[00:13:47] And we know we feel strongly that we know that it starts at the mitochondria, not at the oncogene that the oncogene changes after the mitochondria has switched to anaerobic [00:14:00] respiration and glycolysis. Yeah. With that being said, if, if ozone has such profound effect on the mitochondria, is it a possible adjunct two standards of care that we're using for cancer treatment now?

[00:14:16] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:14:16] Yes, absolutely. Now I'll go ahead and save it just like you said, it's not a cure, but it's excellent adjunct therapy. And why? Because it increases oxygen utilization, like you said, that's one of the main things that shows that's what Otto Warburg won that Nobel prize for so many years.

[00:14:32] Carl Lanore: [00:14:32] He shouldn't, he shouldn't, he should have won the Nobel prize.

[00:14:35] Not for detect the way of detecting cancer, but a way of curing cancer, because so many therapies. Now we understand that if you shut off glucose to a number of types of cancers, you kill the cancer. Absolutely.

[00:14:53] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:14:53] Absolutely. It's amazing. And so it's very, it's amazing adjunct to that for that reason. And then it's [00:15:00] also an amazing adjunct because it boosts your immune system and what a cancer patients get.

[00:15:04] I get sick all the time. They're on immune suppressants chemotherapy. So in conjunction with that with traditional chemotherapy, it's great. It improves multiple aspects, but in multiple cases, any ozone practitioner I've talked to always seems to have some amazing story with it. Now, again, it's not a standalone treatment, but that's the great thing about ozone and you can apply this to anything of it though, is it is.

[00:15:32] Carl Lanore: [00:15:32] Only

[00:15:32] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:15:32] gonna help, whatever the standard treatment is. You can add it to any other treatment, whether you're talking about cardiac cellulitis, hepatitis chronic infections, acute infections, it is safe to be given in just about every aspect and works better with traditional therapy.

[00:15:51] Carl Lanore: [00:15:51] Now, now we know that too much oxygen can damage the lungs, right?

[00:15:57] It's people who go into these, uh, uh, [00:16:00] Iron lungs. What do they call them? They, the high hyperbaric chambers, they have to be careful how much oxygen they get because too much oxygen actually can damage the lungs. Is there any threat to damaging the lungs from breathing RA ozone out of an ozone generator?

[00:16:15] You see a lot of people buy ozone generators, put them in a room. Like, do you have to be careful not to get too close to that and inhale too high of a concentration?

[00:16:25] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:16:25] Yes. That now that is the one. Where you don't want to expose yourself to ozone. So your lung line do not have the antioxidant capacity to handle ozone everywhere else in your body does, but are you giving your blood or contacting your skin, but your lungs cannot tolerate that being said, if you expose with yourself to ozone, you have to expose yourself chronically for at a pretty large dose for at least 60 seconds straight.

[00:16:59] To cause any [00:17:00] damage, but the point did is the moment you breathe that in one cyclic, you were going to go in through an amazing coffin fit and you're going to go run in and out of the room.

[00:17:09] Carl Lanore: [00:17:09] Really? Yeah. Yes. Now what do you, are you aware that, I mean, I'm, I'm aware of people who have purchased ozone generators.

[00:17:17] They're like little boxes. And they put it into a corner. Yeah. They put it on the court in a corner of a room, up on a piece of furniture somewhere high and they just let it blast into their house. Is that wise because it's not so concentrated. You're just being exposed to very passive amounts of it. Or does that have any benefit?

[00:17:37] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:17:37] Well, your people there's businesses that use ozone to clean houses. And this in fact, and to deodorize and it's amazingly effective. I mean, it's seconds. If you have a foul smell and you release them ozone gone. Now the, those generators, I would be careful in regards to [00:18:00] it's probably, it's not strong enough to get you sick, but still people are very reactive to it.

[00:18:04] Like if you're already predisposed to a respiratory issue like asthma or COPD, I wouldn't, I would advise getting is just. And also irritant of the extra zone in the room could send somebody like that into a fit or an exacerbated, um, otherwise pretty Sapient. And I wasn't also, I don't know if you're on this.

[00:18:23] Carl is so in a sanitary purchases, that's what they use in Las Vegas to clean the water supply.

[00:18:30] Carl Lanore: [00:18:30] They open it, clean the walk. You broke up to clean the watt, the water,

[00:18:34] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:18:34] the

[00:18:34] Carl Lanore: [00:18:34] water supply. Really?

[00:18:38] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:18:38] Yeah. It's a more effective than chlorine and much lower doses use the entire system. That way

[00:18:45] Carl Lanore: [00:18:45] I buy, I buy hybrid water.

[00:18:47] It's a local brand of water. It's out in Lexington actually. Yeah, just East of Lexington. There's a, there's an aquifer that they've been producing, drinking water from for, you know, hundreds of years and it's called high bridge, [00:19:00] um, Springs. And they, and I noticed on the bottle, it says that the water is ozonated.

[00:19:06] So now I never knew why I was like, why are they putting ozone in water? But that's why they're purifying the water. Huh?

[00:19:11] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:19:11] Yeah. It's amazing. Safe. It's quick. It's been very, very effective.

[00:19:18] Carl Lanore: [00:19:18] So you said that, um, ozone has the ability to boost immune function and being a critical thinker. I have talked on this show more than a few times that if you have autoimmune issues, You don't want to make your immune system stronger, right?

[00:19:36] If it's already attacking your body, you don't want to arm it with better weapons to attack your body. So when we say it, it boosts your immune system. Do you actually mean boost? You mean modulator, uh, enhances at, is, is this something that people with known auto-immunity should avoid these types of ozone therapies?

[00:19:58] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:19:58] That's an excellent question. No, [00:20:00] actually it's. Very effective in auto immune diseases, whether you're talking about lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, it's amazing. And there's even a physician out of Europe by the name of Simon Edie that uses it to treat ms and stabilizes. Ms. Um, so that is a good point on the cytokine.

[00:20:19] So it does do a modulation, like if you're too high, it'll bring it down. If you're too low and your immune system is deficient, it'll bring up the cytokine levels. And then there are certain things we can add in if we want to avoid a certain cytokine, like a TNF alpha, and then auto-immune, you would include a thiamine before the ozone treatment and it blunts that specific cytokine response.

[00:20:40] Carl Lanore: [00:20:40] What would you, you broke up again? What would you, what would you introduce first before the ozone therapy? Oh, yeah. Okay. Sure, sure. You know, um, we are learning so much more about things that affect the immune system. Dr. . He came on my show. The last time was on my [00:21:00] show and we talked about the fact that rapid myosin is thought to be immunosuppressant.

[00:21:05] And that's how it affects, uh, rejection, uh, by kidney transplants. But he said that all of his research shows that it's not immunosuppressive. Then in fact, um, patients who are given rapid myosin for both and anti rejection tend to ha they, they did a study, uh, unlike, um, 8,000 patients and then currents of the flu and cold.

[00:21:34] And all these other things that we just get rudimentary infections we get year in and year out was dramatically reduced, which is counterintuitive. If you're taking an immunosuppressant, then you're, you should be getting sick all the time or at the risk of getting sick all the time. So we're learning a lot about what we think is immunosuppressant that may actually be immunomodulatory where it doesn't [00:22:00] necessarily suppress the immune system, but.

[00:22:04] For instance, if you have, if you have an army that doesn't know what the enemy looks like, they shoot at everything, right. But if you have an army that knows what they're looking for, they're going to be selective at what they shoot at. And we're starting to learn that a lot of things that we thought were immunosuppressant are actually selectively immunosuppressant.

[00:22:23] They just, they just do this, but not all this vast array of other immunosuppressant thing. So it's interesting that that ozone may fall into. Um, one of those, those categories, it sounds like. So go ahead. I'm sorry. I interrupted you right before I said that when you were you finishing a comment,

[00:22:42] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:22:42] I was agreeing with you.

[00:22:43] Carl Lanore: [00:22:43] So it sounds to me like breathing ozone is probably not the way to go with people who have ozone generators,

[00:22:50] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:22:50] unless you want to cough for about an hour.

[00:22:51] Carl Lanore: [00:22:51] Yeah, no, but does it produce any benefits if you breathe it, does it get into your bloodstream? If you breathe it.

[00:22:59] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:22:59] Uh, that the risk [00:23:00] of the damage wouldn't be worth it.

[00:23:02] Now, a way you can get at least into your, your sinuses is you can put it through a syringe and boat up in your sinuses, hold it in there for sinusitis, and then exhale out your mouth. You gotta hold your breath though. You gotta make sure you don't swallow it. Another thing you can do. Uh, that changes a little bit.

[00:23:23] It's if you put it through all of oil, it, it changes the, the ozone, and then you're able to put it through a nasal cannula directly that way. So it's not effective.

[00:23:33] Carl Lanore: [00:23:33] Does the olive oil become infused?

[00:23:36] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:23:36] Yeah. And which is another great use for

[00:23:40] Carl Lanore: [00:23:40] then you can drink it too. I guess you could take the olive oil, infused the ozone, infused olive oil and take a tablespoon a day.

[00:23:46] And. Absolutely.

[00:23:48] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:23:48] And you can do it that way. It's great for GI issues where you can apply it. Topically. It's good for wrinkles. It's also good for cellulitis or again, back to the fungal infections and put that on your toes or your [00:24:00] toenails. Claire's a Beretta.

[00:24:01] Carl Lanore: [00:24:01] So, uh, these, uh, ozone generators that are being sold today, uh, pretty much Willy nilly.

[00:24:08] They do have risks if people don't know what they're doing.

[00:24:12] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:24:12] Yeah. And if they're not good quality. Absolutely. That is always things to worry about or that, especially if you're using them for medical purposes, you want to make sure they're very precise and give you the precise dose every time. So you don't, you don't want one that's going to break or you have calibrated, and then you use that for an, a specific dose and it doesn't work well, then you might get somebody as sub therapeutic or super therapeutic.

[00:24:39] Used for it. Uh, there are a few good companies that make really good home use ones. Uh, probably the most commonly used. One is one called longevity and they're out of Canada. They make multiple models, uh, but they are, they will recalibrate yours and every year it'll fix the problems with it. And it's an [00:25:00] extremely reliable with shade.

[00:25:01] Carl Lanore: [00:25:01] But how, but how would you use that? You'd have to use it. You couldn't breathe it. In other words, you'd have to use it for either, uh, you know, rectal, uh, infuse, what'd you say? Infu station or whatever insufflation yet and stuff. I mean, you'd have to do that with it. You can't just put it in the corner of your room and let it run all the time.

[00:25:20] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:25:20] No, no, you wouldn't want to do that. So you would use those machines for home use for. I think it's again for like the Lynn bagging. If you want to do that for the cellulitis, if you want to do the rectal applications, which is a great way to get it systemically, probably the most effective way minus the blood.

[00:25:36] The other things you can do is make the water within, or the native water. You can insufflate it through your ears and then you can all, all place it vaginally. If you're having vaginal infections, it's excellent for that. And then you can also, again, you know, do it bladder.

[00:25:55] Carl Lanore: [00:25:55] I want to take a break. When we come back, I want to talk more about these types of approaches [00:26:00] by searching out a physician that does this and having some of these therapeutic approaches provided.

[00:26:05] We're talking today with dr. Justin Aaron basic. He is a physician over at the wild health organization, uh, in Lexington, Kentucky, not too far from where I am right now. And these guys are doing some great things. Um, with helping people, not only avoid disease, but literally turn back the clock on aging.

[00:26:26] There they offer. They're not, they're not a one trick pony. You know, you go to one doc, Oh, it's all about peptides. You go to know doctors all about. It's like they incorporate every type of discipline that's effective, including, uh, hard training, like an athlete. And that's why I have a lot of respect for them because a lot of anti-aging clinics today.

[00:26:45] They're not telling people about the value of getting out there and working hard and how that pushes back disease state. So I stay tuned. We'll be right back with more superhuman radio ripped and we're ready.

[00:27:03] [00:27:00] welcome. Back to super Yuma radio. We're talking today with dr. Justin Aaron basic. He is a physician with the wild health. Group and Lexington, Kentucky, if you live in this region, there's a great facility there where you can see a group of doctors who are on the bleeding edge of practicing medicine, the type of medicine we like in this audience, which is.

[00:27:27] The medicine, not of treating type two diabetes or high cholesterol, but actually allowing you to thrive and live a life unhampered by disease. And that really is what medicine should be. I call it optimistic message medicine. I call it. Allopathic medicine, pessimistic medicine, because it's all about you already sick.

[00:27:47] And now let's keep from dying. Uh, optimistic medicine is about, Oh my God, I am getting better and better every day I don't have a disease I'm living my life and that that's the way medicine should be practiced. So [00:28:00] let's talk about the, uh, the therapeutic video visit. If someone came to you clinic and said, okay, I want to, I want to get the blood infused.

[00:28:09] Uh, ozone, uh, how do they proceed? Do they, do they have to have a complete blood work and workup? Could they have some nagging injuries that they discuss with you and you think, yeah, this, this, this could help you. Uh, what's the, what's the, uh, the triage, like,

[00:28:24] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:28:24] so as you alluded to it's, it's patient dependent, it depends on what they're coming in for now.

[00:28:30] If they, they had a. Nagging pain or a joint issue. That's one thing we haven't talked about yet, but we can inject it into the, uh, this has been amazing for many people. So it's a great noninvasive in regards to whether you'd have surgery, not treatment for joint pain, so people can have their joint pain resolved there, whether it's from arthritis or even a partial tear of the ligament be healed.

[00:28:58] I decreases the pain [00:29:00] and people can get out of it. They're joint replacement periods. Sometimes, sometimes they just go for several, several years putting it off. It's good for knee pain, joint, needy elbow on anywhere in your back, low back pain, which is, you know, how many people are crippled.

[00:29:17] Carl Lanore: [00:29:17] So is it, does it act as an analgesic or does it do something magical where the poop, because I'm preparing to go and have a intraarticular injection in my right hip.

[00:29:30] Because of, uh, uh, bent over rowing. A session that went wrong. I got too wide and I felt this grinding in my hip and it's progressively gotten worse. I now have hip pain. And for those of you who think hip pain is out here by your pockets of your jeans. Yeah. It's not. It's in where your junk is. It's in your crotch.

[00:29:48] When you have a bad hip, it's in your crop. I have people to all, I have a bad hip too, and they go like this, they grabbed their butt and I say, that's not your hip. You know what I mean? Your hip is in here. The hip joint is in here. When you look at [00:30:00] the pelvis and how the legs. Attached to it. It's in your, in your groin, but I'm going to have intraarticular growth hormone injection combined with STEM cells and PRP.

[00:30:12] Uh, and I'm wondering if I could add ozone to the mix and how would I do it? Do they ozone ate the liquid and then inject it in there? Could they use a medium if there, if I'm having, Oh, hyaluronic acid is going to be used as well with me. How would you get the, uh, how would you, how would you encapsulate if you will, the ozone to put it in an intraarticular joint

[00:30:34] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:30:34] air?

[00:30:34] I, that was an eight. Turning three and I objected straight in. We've done that. And we've done that. And combined that with exosomes, you can combine it with PRP and exosomes. In fact, there's studies showing the effectiveness of them together as better than year one alone. And you can do it all at the same time.

[00:30:52] That's again, that's another great thing about the ozone is you can add it to any other therapy. It's just a needle application. And then even by itself, [00:31:00] I was in itself is an aesthetic. And why, why does it keep you asking? We've talking about. Different mechanisms. So what heals your body? What is the most important nutrient?

[00:31:11] Your body needs

[00:31:11] Carl Lanore: [00:31:11] oxygen oxygen,

[00:31:13] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:31:13] right? Can't live for three minutes without oxygen. You can go three days

[00:31:19] Carl Lanore: [00:31:19] without water,

[00:31:21] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:31:21] 30 days for food, but oxygen. So when his oxygen did do it, it carries. The, the components in the blood to the joint taquito. Well, what's wrong with joints in regards to that they have very poor blood flow, right?

[00:31:39] There's not a whole lot of

[00:31:41] Carl Lanore: [00:31:41] mainly avascular when you think about it, other than the, other than the, the actual cartilage itself, which has a microvascular going to it. Um, but also of tissue and joints have virtually a vascular. Absolutely.

[00:31:56] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:31:56] So how are they going to heal? And that's why they don't heal since it doesn't [00:32:00] get the oxygen and the blood and the nutrients and needs.

[00:32:02] So what we ended up doing is placing the ozone there, which is your oxidation, super oxygenation, very reactive. What is also is that, do we put other vitamins and minerals in there that will repour us Selma will decrease inflammation. And what happens when you decrease inflammation? Oxygen can transfer the tissues better.

[00:32:24] And then this activates the cells to start healing. And so your body guilds that way with the ozone environment. Medics, that's the thing about it is that it's not so much of a drug, it's a biologic modifier. It tells your body and yourselves to start working better. Yeah. And we're optimally, it produced the things it's already produced and that's why we like it.

[00:32:45] It won't help. It's it's. It's an antidote to what your body is already doing.

[00:32:51] Carl Lanore: [00:32:51] Interesting. Interesting. So earlier in the conversation, and then I'm going to get back to the, the sessions themselves you, uh, so we know that [00:33:00] peroxidation is a free, radical peroxidation is a, it's not good. It deteriorates tissue and so on, but you said that ozone increases.

[00:33:12] Some other type of peroxide, which is beneficial, correct?

[00:33:17] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:33:17] Yeah. It's a lipid peroxides peroxisomes. It's just the O's and ons. And so that's the mechanism of how it gets through your blood and it has its reaction. So it's, it's an oxidant, but, uh, you know, some people would be like, Oh, you know, Oxidants are bad.

[00:33:34] Right. But no, they're good. You know that, I know that what's what all accidents do when your body is super oxide, dismutase start. That's a very beneficial oxide, nitric oxide, huge what's sacred for, for basal dilation, blood flow. Very important. Your body naturally produces a little bit of ozone, which isn't like Carl, everybody's done.

[00:33:56] Carl Lanore: [00:33:56] Okay.

[00:33:57] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:33:57] In regards to sell your [00:34:00] response. And it's actually, it's been studied and proven and shown, and your body also produces hydrogen peroxide, fight off infections and a little bit of bleach. So it's, these oxidants are very beneficial when regulated and uploaded when they need to. So, uh, that's how it works.

[00:34:19] It's an accident.

[00:34:21] Carl Lanore: [00:34:21] Uh, so if someone came to the clinic and said, I want to undergo. Uh, blood infused, um, uh, ozone, what would the process be like? How long do they have to stay? How long does the process take?

[00:34:37] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:34:37] So it depends on the, for adding anything in before or after juicy, it didn't take too long. The process itself, uh, the right lemonade, you know, as you know, is getting access.

[00:34:49] Once we get access and most people it's pretty easy, we get it really quickly. And then. Approximately 20, 25 minutes to remove [00:35:00] the blood eight. They'd take a good five or 10 minutes. And then we infuse it back in another 20, 25 minutes. So you can have one major auto chemotherapy in an

[00:35:11] Carl Lanore: [00:35:11] hour. So it's kinda like when you go donate blood, you're drawing out a pint of blood or what is it?

[00:35:17] 400 milliliters. I think there's something like that. You're right. You're you're drawing it out. And then you just muted yourself. You just muted yourself. Wow. Hey, let me see if I can unmute you from my end. No, I can't. Here you go. You're good. You're good.

[00:35:36] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:35:36] Totally lost you.

[00:35:37] Carl Lanore: [00:35:37] Can you hear me? Can you hear me?

[00:35:43] You can always, yeah. Can you hear me now? Okay. You hear me? You can't hear me. Yeah. Okay. So, so, um, what, what happens is like, if you go donate blood, they draw blood out, but they don't put it back in you. So [00:36:00] it's just really, uh, an extra 10 minutes to do the ozone nation. You can't hear me? Just take your headphones off, take your head, take your headphones off, unplug your headphones and unplugged them.

[00:36:11] Can you hear me okay. Through your speaker? You can't hear me. Okay. So I can't, I can't hear you either right now. Did you unplug your headphones from your computer? There you go. There you go. Can you hear me? Okay. You hear me

[00:36:31] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:36:31] a little bit? Uh,

[00:36:33] Carl Lanore: [00:36:33] you can turn up your volume. You can turn up your volume a little bit.

[00:36:38] Just turn up your speaker volume.

[00:36:42] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:36:42] It's up.

[00:36:43] Carl Lanore: [00:36:43] It's his loud. Can you can't hear me? You can hear me okay. Or no. Test test test. Oh, I see. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me.

[00:36:54] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:36:54] There. It is.

[00:36:55] Carl Lanore: [00:36:55] Tell you, you can hear me now, right? Yeah. What was it that I have no idea. I [00:37:00] got a, I got a ghost in this mixture board. I think I've got to go get a new mixer board.

[00:37:04] I think that's what it is. Okay. So, so, um, I guess the question I have is. It just, it just, it just takes about an hour round trip. Right? You draw the blood out, you ozonated and then you put it back in, correct? Correct. How frequently can you have that therapy done?

[00:37:23] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:37:23] You can have it done every day, sometimes, twice a day, if you really wanted to, depending on whether it's an acute infection, but generally depending on what you're loading those twice a week, once a week, and then once you're on a maintenance or you're just doing it preventative once a month.

[00:37:40] Carl Lanore: [00:37:40] So, if you're trying to reverse a disease state that you feel that the ozone is good for, would you do it at least once a week?

[00:37:50] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:37:50] Yes. Yes.

[00:37:52] Carl Lanore: [00:37:52] What, what is it, what is the average cost of doing an ozone blood infusion?

[00:37:59] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:37:59] So again, [00:38:00] it would depend on whether what we had to add in any other vitamin C or glutathione, but the actual.

[00:38:06] Blood transfusion itself. And it was an Asian $200.

[00:38:10] Carl Lanore: [00:38:10] Oh, that's very inexpensive. That's very inexpensive. And, and, and you feel it, you literally, like after a session, you feel different, right?

[00:38:19] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:38:19] Yeah. So in total home and somewhere around 200, two 50, and then the ozone joint injections, it's a great alternative.

[00:38:26] The surgery it's much cheaper too. We can do that. $300. Right. You only need a few of those too. So they're both very affordable treatments.

[00:38:34] Carl Lanore: [00:38:34] Right, right, right, right. Um, this is fascinating. I may actually set up an appointment with you to come and do the blood infused those zones too. Just to give it a try, if you notice, and we can talk about it on the show.

[00:38:44] Um, afterwards what I noticed. So what goes good with ozone? So somebody is undergoing ozone therapy. Is there something. That helps it work better. I know you mentioned gludethyon but are there any other things [00:39:00] that can be done to create kind of a, a precursor, if you will, to the, to the therapeutic process?

[00:39:08] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:39:08] So for, if you want to preach cytokines, there was study that showed that if you add in this calcium chloride or class and include grenade to the ozone mixture, It upregulates cytokine production across the board. So that's one thing that we often do. And then vitamin C afterwards is also extremely helpful.

[00:39:28] You don't want to give the vitamin C before because then the ozone will oxidize or B vitamin C itself. So that will ruin the ozone treatment. You don't want to have any vitamin C or NHL oxidants for like. At least three or four hours before the treatment, but afterwards it's extremely helpful. Other things you can, uh, are, you know, if you wanted to add some other treatments like for basal dilation, such as some magnesium, if you want to get blood flow, but also to make this [00:40:00] earlier nitric oxide.

[00:40:01] So it's a potent potent. Nitric oxide producers. So it helps blood flow. So it's good for clarification in regards to that, that takes simple treatments. The other thing that I wanted to say that we didn't really talk about is we're talking about, uh, immune function and affects was when you think about immune function, the other thing it does, it's NRF two, it activates your, I know of two, which is your master regulator.

[00:40:29] Uh, for your immediately functioning develop regulates all your, uh, antioxidant capacity and oxidants systems. And the other thing that it Doug's is it, up-regulates your two, three DPG for blood flow. So part of oxygen unit legalization is getting it. Oxygen delivery just because the oxygen is in your blood right in, you're getting right.

[00:40:54] It's not absorbed. So although it itself produces more two, three [00:41:00] DPG. So what does that mean? Blood cell has to go a long way from your heart down to your foot. Right? And so there's a lot of capital hilarious if gets stuck through and actually the real small capillaries. Yeah, some blood cells are actually bigger than the actual Peppler itself.

[00:41:14] So it has to fold around, call it the rule of ology of blood. So it improves your apology, includes your two, three DTG, which is the helps you offload the oxygen from the hemoglobin. And then ultimately, how, what is the main effect on mitochondria? I wanted to make sure we hit this hard. Was it increases your NAD to NADH ratio

[00:41:37] Carl Lanore: [00:41:37] and everybody's taking NAD plus all the time.

[00:41:40] Right. Yeah,

[00:41:41] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:41:41] yeah, exactly. What all the caloric restriction and fasting this does that it optimizes your NAD to NADH ratio. It's one of the few things that can,

[00:41:52] Carl Lanore: [00:41:52] so I want to go back to something. So you said , is that relationship to the real low effect of blood red blood cells? How they [00:42:00] stack, correct. So I know, I know it makes them unstack.

[00:42:04] You're saying

[00:42:05] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:42:05] yes.

[00:42:07] Carl Lanore: [00:42:07] The only thing I've ever known that actually reverses the rouleaux effect, which are low effect causes blood, your red blood cells, not to be able to give off the oxygen they're carrying. If you think of a six coins stacked together, the only surface area is the top one and the bottom one and all the ones in the middle they're robbed of their ability to deliver oxygen.

[00:42:29] And so. When I was at quest one year for the think tank process that, that Ron penny used to put on over there. They actually used a, a grounding mat and they had a dark field microscope, and we had somebody who was a phlebotomist there and they showed this gal who was working there. They drew her blood, we looked at it and there were numerous occurrences of red blood cells stacked together.

[00:42:54] Which is the real low effect. And then after just sitting at her desk for 15 minutes, with a grounding [00:43:00] strap on her wrist and barefoot with her feet on a grounding pad, they did it again. And all of those stacked red blood cells were gone. They will all nice and evenly spaced. And, and I was like, wow.

[00:43:13] That's when I became a believer in grounding. I don't know if it helps you sleep better. I don't know any of that stuff, but it definitely does something good when it makes the red blood cells unstack like that. So you're saying ozone does that

[00:43:26] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:43:26] correct?

[00:43:27] Carl Lanore: [00:43:27] Wow. Wow.

[00:43:29] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:43:29] You know, that goes off. What you're saying is grounded and PEMF, you know, that that's supposed to be good for the rouleaux effect also.

[00:43:35] Yeah.

[00:43:35] Carl Lanore: [00:43:35] Yeah. I actually sleep with a unit. I have a unit that I've slept with the close to two decades. Now. Uh, we're going to take a quick commercial break. I've got more questions to ask. Stay tuned. You're listening to and watching superhuman radio. The superhuman channel evolution just got kicked up a notch.

[00:43:56] welcome back. We're talking with dr. [00:44:00] Justin, Aaron basic. I'm trying to get my microphone straight that I see a problem is definitely a problem in this board. Can you hear me okay right now? Am I sure I'm not very low? No. Okay, good now. Okay. Yeah, but there's definitely a problem. So anyway, Um, we have a lot of people that suffer from the dye obese, um, metabolic category of diseases, uh, is, is, is this something that doctors should be talking to their patients about?

[00:44:29] If they do suffer from diabetes type two diabetes and obesity, dyslipidemia, is this something that could be used as a prophylactic to protect them while they try to get their disease state under control?

[00:44:45] Definitely a treatment

[00:44:46] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:44:46] and there's studies showing the effects of upbringing, mitochondria on mouse and their effect in diabetes. And people do use this for diabetes management and it goes back to the utilization. Again, we [00:45:00] regulate the mitochondria, what happens, their metabolic rate increases. They sometimes there's a side effect.

[00:45:06] And I can't say this happens all the time, but people that use this therapy. Up-regulate their mitochondria and then ended up using losing weight as a side effect because of the energy production. And so it is good for diabetic management or is it an adjunct diabetes? Uh, and it's also good for all the other infections that go along with diabetes that we see a lot.

[00:45:28] We see the leg infections, we see the DQ, but it's all serves in the cellulitis and it's excellent for that as well.

[00:45:36] Carl Lanore: [00:45:36] So, um, the, um, Reason for peripheral neuropathy is shifting originally. It was thought to be a process of glycation high blood sugar test test. Yeah. It's like one channel. You can't hear me.

[00:45:54] Can you, can you hear me?

[00:45:58] No, you're good. Yeah. It's [00:46:00] it's my mic. Something's wrong. This is a brand new mic. I took the old mic down and put this one up. The only thing I could think of is. It's the mixture board. That's going, that the mic is going into. I'm going to try switching channels. You hold on a second

[00:46:23] test. Test, test. Let's see if that's it. It could be that where I was jacked into. Let's see, test, test, test. Can you hear me okay right now?

[00:46:32] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:46:32] Sounds great.

[00:46:33] Carl Lanore: [00:46:33] All right. Let's try that. It could be that port that I was plugged into it may have gone. I mean, this equipment is better than 14 years old, so five, five, five, five.

[00:46:41] Okay. Sorry for that, everybody. Um, W we know now that the peripheral neuropathy is not what we thought it was. We thought it was the myelination as a result of advanced glycation. But now we're learning that it's has a vascular origin, uh, microvasculature that feeds the [00:47:00] nerves, thought to get choked off and the nerves literally start to die.

[00:47:05] And is there any value in that particular model of peripheral neuropathy? To using this type of, uh, uh, therapy.

[00:47:20] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:47:20] Yeah. It has been shown to decrease pain for sure, from their neuropathy. And it does again, sort of upregulate the cellular processes and people have had benefit from neuropathy symptoms.

[00:47:33] Carl Lanore: [00:47:33] So if the analgesic effects of it, how long do they last after the blood infusion?

[00:47:42] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:47:42] So the blood is not much for the analgesic effect immediately.

[00:47:47] That's more as, as you get the inflammation down, when that's through the cytokines, we'll bring some of the pain under bear. The analgesic effect is mostly from joint injections. [00:48:00] If you're looking for an immediate effect.

[00:48:01] Carl Lanore: [00:48:01] Okay. Hi. Yeah, I was just curious. Cause we, we, we have a rampant, uh, group of our population right now that are suffering from, and I think their nutritional just for the record, I think that there are certain things in our life today that everybody partakes in my thought is coughing that damages, the gut and causes, uh, causes certain, uh, nutritional deficiencies.

[00:48:28] If you will. Uh, we, we, like, I was just reading a good study on vitamin E and people who have malabsorption of vitamin E uh, they can take as much as, uh, you know, 10,000. I use a day and absorb very little of it. Did you lose me again? No,

[00:48:48] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:48:48] no good. It's so good. I had to turn it down.

[00:48:51] Carl Lanore: [00:48:51] So I think, I think that, I think that there's a lot going on with the gut and nutritional deficiencies and people who have pretty good [00:49:00] diet or at least dietary intake that are leading to some of these neuropathies.

[00:49:04] And I'm always looking for answers and information about that because I know a lot of people who email me and message me that. They feel like they have gloves and socks on all the time. And that's characteristic of a B vitamin deficiency, but they're not deficient in B vitamins because they get their blood work done and we look, and they're like, Oh, you're not deficient in these things.

[00:49:24] So there's something else going on. And we have neuropathy is a big problem today. A huge part. Absolutely.

[00:49:31] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:49:31] Absolutely. And I couldn't agree more. Uh you're right on it. It's in, there's so many factors and causes as an aside, I would tell you that there is a, uh, A red light therapy that also has ultra BioLite called the Firefly device.

[00:49:48] It was really amazing for neuropathy immediately after you use it. And sometimes people have effects, but the study is in effect with ozone. Is there, it does improve blood flow, improves [00:50:00] nutrient delivery, and therefore, uh, Decreases a lot of the inflammation in regards to the neuropathy pain.

[00:50:06] Carl Lanore: [00:50:06] Well, this has been a fascinating discussion.

[00:50:08] So what, what is it? What is OZO not good for that it's promoted. We already established a breathing. It is not a good idea. So people buy ozone generators and just keep them in their homes, uh, running all the time. That's probably not a good idea. What other things is it not good for?

[00:50:27] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:50:27] Well, you know, we did go over the gray hair, not too good for that. Um, you know, it's, I would say that it, you know, it's not the best in regards to just solitary therapies. People will think of they'll hear this and they would get to think, you know, like you said, and I was a big non-believer at the beginning too.

[00:50:50] I'm like, Oh, this smells really it's like snake oil here, but. It's not, you know, it affects so many different systems, but it's not to be done by [00:51:00] itself. So if you come in thinking is one shot of Ozara, this one treatment is going to change. Sometimes it does make a difference in one. Yeah, most of the time that it takes several.

[00:51:11] So it's not this magic bullet that's going to take one, one injection or one blood treatment or get better. We usually have to do a series of them, whether it's the joint injection, sometimes, you know, five or six. They really feel a big difference. And then the blood, you know, like a city, maybe every week for a little bit until we get it under control.

[00:51:32] So those are things that have to be considered. It's not a magic bullet. One time. It's really good also. And I didn't throw this out here, but you can watch a YouTube video on it. And it's amazing if somebody wants it quick, but you have it. But spider veins on YouTube you'd type in here. Gone, you can watch them disappear.

[00:51:53] Carl Lanore: [00:51:53] So how has that applied? Is it from, is it from infusion or you have to directly inject it into the vein.

[00:52:00] [00:52:00] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:52:00] You just sub Q injection. Cause you can do sub Q as well,

[00:52:04] Carl Lanore: [00:52:04] general vicinity. In other words, you don't have to get into the vein just in the general vicinity of the vein. No kidding.

[00:52:11] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:52:11] Yeah. It's amazing. I mean, you talk about something, you just.

[00:52:15] See the magic of something.

[00:52:17] Carl Lanore: [00:52:17] Now, how long, how long lasting is that? If you use it to get rid of spider veins, how long does it last?

[00:52:23] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:52:23] It depends on the person. It could last for a long time. They might not come back at all. Some people need to re dose,

[00:52:28] Carl Lanore: [00:52:28] but it's okay. That's it? That's an easy

[00:52:30] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:52:30] one. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:52:33] Absolutely. The other thing is that it's really good for that we didn't really talk about was also a. People, a lot of people suffer from mold and mycotoxin illnesses and Lyme disease. And so it's good for chronic infections like that and resistant EBV things that have been around for a long time, because, uh, it has an, a major effect on those.

[00:52:53] But again, that takes several treatments, but. It works really well. Oh, wow.

[00:52:57] Carl Lanore: [00:52:57] I didn't know that. That's amazing. We did a whole show on Lyme [00:53:00] disease recently with a guy who's, um, dr. Horwitz's doing some amazing work publishing summit, amazing papers. I never knew about that. That's interesting. That's very rich, very, very fascinating.

[00:53:11] There's a lot of women out there with Lyme disease and they're treated like they're crazy, uh, by physicians like, Oh, you don't have anything wrong with you. Go away. Leave me alone. Uh, it's very, very sad kind of menopause. And so doctors used to treat women with menopause. There's nothing wrong with you.

[00:53:26] Go away, leave me alone. I'm a doctor. Um, this has been fascinating how we'll reach a wild health if they are in the vicinity and they want to drive out to Lexington and maybe take a look at this type of therapeutic approach, how would they reach you at wild health?

[00:53:43] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:53:43] So we have a website, Wilde, health.com, and it enlists providers in different treatments.

[00:53:49] And as you know, we're multifactorial and there's a lot of different aspects of care. You can get food from there. You can give us a call at five nine five two three [00:54:00] four three seven five. Again is (859) 523-4375. And, you know, you could also email me, uh, This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

[00:54:13] Carl Lanore: [00:54:13] Aaron basic as a R a M B a S I C K.

[00:54:16] Just like it's. Sounds correct. Listen, I want to thank you so much for making time to come on the show. And I think I'm going to take you up on that. I think I'll reach out to you in the next week or so, and come out and try a blood infusion. See what happens. Can't hurt. Can't hurt. Can't hurt. Hi Justin.

[00:54:33] Thanks for being here to help. Yeah, I'm sure it will. Yeah. And then I'll be able to discuss more at length, the nagging problems I'm trying to get rid of right now. So. I

[00:54:42] Dr. Justin Arambasick, MD: [00:54:42] talk to, I love the show.

[00:54:45] Carl Lanore: [00:54:45] Thank you so much for saying that. Talk soon. Talk soon. We're going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, I'll wrap up the show.

[00:54:50] Stay tuned.

[00:55:00] [00:55:00] Hey, welcome back. I gotta get used to pressing a new button now cause I'm using the Newport for the microphone. I think I just need to buy a new, I have this Mackie. Soundboard that I've had for probably the better part of not 14 years. That's not true, probably 12 years and it's never given me a problem.

[00:55:18] So it's probably due to be swapped out. I need some new equipment. Anyway, I'm building this new studio. It kind of got white way laid because there's so much other things going on right now. I'm, re-introducing primal D by the way, for those of you who love primal D it's going to be better than ever. Um, For those of you don't know what I'm talking about.

[00:55:38] So about five or six years ago, I introduced a, the first and patented the first, uh, topically delivered vitamin D supplement in the world. The science is so profound. Del Moosa wrote the white paper on it for me. Um, you don't have to worry about calcification from taking too much. It's just look, we, we make vitamin D in our [00:56:00] skin.

[00:56:01] Your skin is prepared to manage vitamin D production. Why do we take it orally? Because it's simple. No, he sprayed on your arm. You rub it in and you go about your business. And then you, you know, obviously we want people to test before using it and after using it so that they can find their own personal sweet spot, how many sprays they needed.

[00:56:20] Dang. But. It really is a vitamin D the way nature intended you to get it. So we're reintroducing, uh, deep, uh, the primal D product, so that I've been working on that, um, with, uh, Pat Arnold's people. Pat's fantastic. Um, I'm building this new studio. I've got the test. So the testosterone product is being completely revamped.

[00:56:46] Uh, we thought we had it working great. There were some problems with it. We came out with a better alternative. It's gotta be a daily testosterone injection. We're actually gonna be able to patent it because it's going to be so unique compared to anything else out there [00:57:00] that it's it's, it's, it's going to be stunning.

[00:57:03] And once again, see, when you look at how I think pro uh, a primal D vitamin D, the way nature intended you to get it thrive protein. Protein powder built around the, the constructs of human breast milk, because nature made that food to be food for humans. Um, the natural rhythm injectable once daily injectable testosterone product, because that's the way your body produces testosterone.

[00:57:33] I'm all about looking at physiology. And biology and saying, well, we're going to replace something. Let's do it the way the body intended it to be. And I never really thought about it, but that's when you look at the products that I'm developing, it's all about how they are appropriate for the human condition appropriate.

[00:57:56] And so those are the things I'm working on. I'm building a new studio, so I'm going to have to [00:58:00] buy some new equipment. There's no doubt about it. Um, so a couple of things I wanted to mention, can you believe that we're giving away a sauna worth $5,799? And we said that we would do the drawing. Once we reached 300 entry forms, I'm looking for the link right now.

[00:58:21] So bear with me for a second. We've had. Over 24,000 people visit the signup page, but we still don't have a total of 300 signatures signups. I don't know what it is like, why wouldn't you want a $6,000 for free at first of all, I thought, well, maybe it's because the room it takes up, right? People are like, well, where am I going to fit that?

[00:58:44] I don't have the room to fit that, but this is a corner three. It's a three person corner unit. Which means that it has a smaller footprint than a two person unit, which go along the wall. [00:59:00] And w I, I'm still flabbergasted that people have not just jumped all over this. So if you were someone who was interested in the sauna, It's not gone yet.

[00:59:12] Your chances are not gone yet. You can still enter to win it. I'm going to find the link so I can give it to you. Just bear with me here. Uh, where is it? That's the beef one. Here we go. Good health sauna. That's not it. But let me, let me, but, but again, while I'm looking for it, it's just, it's just baffling to me.

[00:59:36] Like people sign up for free stuff all the time stuff. They have no intentions of ever using, and here's a sauna worth. $6,000 shipped to you completely free. And over 24,000 people have visited the page. The page is S H R network.biz/free sauna. Very easy. So. S H [01:00:00] R N E T w O R K dot BIC slash F R E S a U N a O all lowercase.

[01:00:08] And you can sign up, we still have room for a more entry forms. You could be the winner. You could go, Oh, you know what? I'm just going to go ahead and do this. And it could be you, you could be getting a $6,000 sauna delivered to your home and it's. Good. Good, great, good health saunas has the best customer service, the best warranty in the industry.

[01:00:29] No EMF produced by their saunas, nothing toxic used to build their saunas. It's the best sauna in the world. So take advantage of that. Also, we've gotten some really nice. Videos from people I've asked the listeners of this show and the viewers now with video, uh, if this show has impacted you in any way, maybe you'd think I'm a jerk.

[01:00:53] I want to hear that. Luckily, we haven't gotten any of those yet, but I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the call. You asked for this, [01:01:00] um, SHR network.biz/your story video, your three minutes. Comment commentary about the show, what the show has done for you, what you like about the show, what you don't like about the show and upload it there.

[01:01:15] SHR network.biz/your story and let us know what you like or what you don't like. And lastly, A lot of people don't know this, but we now have live stream back. So the thing that made this show popular and off topic was we had a live audio stream that people could listen to and, and message us and stuff like that.

[01:01:39] And then it went away for literally a couple of years. And it's back. And if you go to superhuman radio.net/live player, you don't have to miss an episode just because you're not near your computer. You can take it with you on the subway at your office. You can listen to the show, live stream, [01:02:00] starting at 1:00 PM Eastern every single day.

[01:02:04] Again, superhuman radio.net/live player and enjoy the, the sh the audio version of the show. Uh, you don't have to miss the live show at all, if you don't want to. And that's okay. Really? It works from any iPhone, any smartphone, Android, and it works from your computer too. If you're sitting in front of your computer and you just want to listen to this show, can't watch it.

[01:02:24] That's the way to do it. So check it out. Um, and again, share these shows. Please share the shows. You can help. How many people there's somebody out there who may hear this ozone show and think, Oh, I'm going to go try it. And they, they remedy a problem. So always share the shows, not for me, but for the potential people that we can help by inviting them into the fold of the superhuman nation.

[01:02:48] And that's it for today, we have more shows Thursday and Friday. We have a great show Friday. We got an, a really exciting pepper coming up next week. That's going to show you [01:03:00] that a simple peptide that's available right now that I use. Can give you the same kind of gains as trend bologne without any of the negative effects of trend bologna.

[01:03:13] Shocking, but true. So stay tuned for that one as well. I see everybody tomorrow with more superhuman radio and thank you for watching and listening today. [01:04:00]