[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] hey. Hey, welcome back to another episode of super human radio. Today is another entry in the series of fathers and sons with a guy I love. Aaron Singerman is going to be with us in just a second. Um, before we do that, I have to thank our title sponsor, legendary foods, eat legendary.com. Use the code SHR 10 to save 10% off and let them know that you learned about their products here.

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[00:01:07] Aaron Singerman: [00:01:07] Good, Carl, how are you, man?

[00:01:08] Carl Lanore: [00:01:08] I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

[00:01:09] It's great to be here. You know, the truth of the matter is you and I actually did the pilot of today's show. I had this idea about raising boys and remember last year, you and I did a show where we talked about raising boys, but I want to come back now and do this again. Now that you've had a little bit more time under your belt, uh, with your boys and they're beautiful, beautiful children, and they're kind, and they're sweet.

[00:01:35] Uh, but I, I wanna, I want to know more, I have a better array of questions than I did when I had you on first. Do we have any announcements to make you got a lot going on lot of exciting stuff going on at red con one right now, don't you?

[00:01:49] Aaron Singerman: [00:01:49] Yeah, we always honestly call. There's always more news and there's always more stuff going on.

[00:01:53] So yeah, there's. You know, we have a lot of things coming. The big protein RTD ready to drink comes out, uh, next [00:02:00] month and the beginning of next month, actually, maybe in time for cyber Monday, we may have a surprise for people, but, uh, that's our biggest that coming up, obviously black Friday is always a huge deal.

[00:02:09] Every time we have, uh, this time of the year, it's my favorite day. It's like, uh, the Christmas Hanukkah, my birthday all rolled into one for black Friday. Um, so we have a lot, a lot of stuff coming out for black Friday. So a lot of big announcements leading up to, and during that period of time,

[00:02:26] Carl Lanore: [00:02:26] and, and I see that you now have a mineral blend.

[00:02:29] I mean, there's a lot of people out there with mineral blends. Red con has a mineral blend now, right?

[00:02:34] Aaron Singerman: [00:02:34] Yes. Canteen canteen. So it's a hydration, mineral blend. Yeah. Uh, product that, uh, That really is really would be good for anybody. And then I put my drinks and now hydration is obviously as you know, probably better than I want to say, but he, Carl, uh, being, uh, lack of hydration or being dehydrated is a huge deal that can affect everything for your mental clarity to physical performance.

[00:02:54] Carl Lanore: [00:02:54] Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And you know what? Drinking water isn't enough. [00:03:00] If you're not adding minerals with the water, you're not going to be hydrated. So that's a very, very good point. So, um, I know that we're kind of on an anniversary yet of, of, uh, your father Jerry passing recently, right? Yes. Okay. So

[00:03:13] Aaron Singerman: [00:03:13] October 31st.

[00:03:14] Yeah.

[00:03:15] Carl Lanore: [00:03:15] Okay. Okay. Okay. And so the first question I want to ask you is who influenced you the most as a young boy? This could be a couple of people, but, but when you think back. I remember, you may even want to tell the story about the Rolex and grandpa Jack too, but who influenced you the most when you were a young boy?

[00:03:34] Aaron Singerman: [00:03:34] Um, you know, I, uh, I think, I think back to that, And I I'm honestly not sure, you know, in one regard I would say, uh, Arnold Schwartzenegger, um, obviously I got into bodybuilding and fitness, physical culture, very, very young. Uh, at 13 years old, I was going to the gym five or six days a week. Um, so I remember seeing, watching with my dad and watching Arnold Schwartzenegger and predator, and he does [00:04:00] like this with his arm and he tells him to stop, you know, you see like as arm, I remember thinking that that was so cool.

[00:04:05] And, uh, and my dad always thought that that, that, that movie was cool. So I want to say that my dad, um, but I also say that I was such a, um, uh, lost a bad child for most of my childhood and into my young adult years. I think I was very, uh, I was very hard to, um, be influenced to period. I was probably more influenced by, you know, being around the wrong people and, and.

[00:04:32] Making my own bad decisions. So it's hard to say he always influenced, obviously looking back thinking of it now. Um, my father stands out to me, but I'm so different than my father. Um, we're, we're almost polar opposites in a lot of ways. So, you know, maybe I was influenced in a way to be different, uh, than instead of replicating the same thing.

[00:04:51] So that that's the Papa Jack story is a good one because my Papa Jack. Was it, it was a dentist he's still alive. He's 92 years old [00:05:00] and lives in new Orleans now. And, uh, he was a successful dentist and, um, made good money owning his own practice. And, uh, he had a gold Rolex that he bought for himself. His 25th anniversary of his practice.

[00:05:14] And, uh, as a kid, I always was fascinated with, with his watches in particular that one Rose gold Rolex. Um, and, uh, I always thought in my mind that maybe because I made so many comments about how much I liked it as a kid. That when he passed away and maybe he would leave me the gold Rolex. Cause I figured that there was no way that I would ever be able to afford a watch like that on myself.

[00:05:36] And, uh, and obviously I'm not funny, interestingly enough, I'm wearing a gold Rolex. Um, but uh,

[00:05:43] Carl Lanore: [00:05:43] know

[00:05:44] Aaron Singerman: [00:05:44] interesting. You brought that story up, but it was something that as a, as a kid, I didn't, uh, have the kind of aspirations that I do now, uh, or that I've built over time. Um, I just didn't even think that kind of thing was possible.

[00:05:56] Keep in mind, my grandfather, who was a dentist, he was probably the [00:06:00] wealthiest person that I knew personally. And in the scheme of things compared to, you know, the people that I'm around today, I would say that he would be, you know, upper-middle-class basically, you know, um, where, or maybe lower upper class, but new Orleans and people that I was surrounded with growing up, I wasn't around any kind of, um, well, uh, at all, I wasn't brought up poor, um, by any means, but I just wasn't around.

[00:06:24] Stuff like that fluence

[00:06:25] Carl Lanore: [00:06:25] you weren't around affluence. Yeah. Right, exactly. Yeah. Um, now you have another granddad, wasn't he? A, does he own a factory or something like that? And he employed a lot of your family.

[00:06:35] Aaron Singerman: [00:06:35] Yeah. Charlie Singerman. Uh, he worked with his brothers. Um, he had three brothers and they owned retail locations in new Orleans.

[00:06:44] Um, he owned at one point, he owned a, uh, a women's clothing store and like person men's clothing store called country fair that my dad worked at. And I worked at as a kid, the great American cookie company franchise. He helped start. And at one point they had done dozens of these [00:07:00] big cookie cakes. Uh, they owned a jewelry store and they owned a, um, Kind of like a Rite aid or CVS at the time and a one by one.

[00:07:09] They, they locked those businesses because he got taken over by, right. It's in CVS and mirror's jewelry store at the mall and everything. And so when my dad was given the business, my grandfather was. Brothers passed away. And when my grandfather passed away, he left the remaining businesses to my dad and eventually the men's clothing store country fair got, um, the prices of tamale went up and banana Republic took over the men's clothing store.

[00:07:34] And then, uh, the hurricane hurricane Katrina took away the final great American cookie companies. So, yeah, uh, that, it's funny though, you know, Carl. Grandpa, Charlie, definitely. Without question had more money or made more money than Papa Jack, but grandpa Charlie was so cheap that you would never, ever, he would never buy himself a Rolex.

[00:07:53] I mean, this is, this is a guy that when we took us out for family dinners, we would go to Shoney's because the salad bar was unlimited.

[00:08:03] [00:08:00] Carl Lanore: [00:08:03] Whatever you want. As long as it's on the salad bar

[00:08:07] Aaron Singerman: [00:08:07] as much

[00:08:08] Carl Lanore: [00:08:08] salad bar you want. But you know, I got to believe that grandpa Charlie probably influenced you from a business standpoint, owning all these businesses, at least put it in the realm of possibility for you.

[00:08:22] Aaron Singerman: [00:08:22] Seeing it definitely seeing that and going to the store.

[00:08:26] So at 13 years old, I started working for my dad at grammar at a country fair, and I would fold the clothes for them, for the clothes would come in, obviously not kind of folding I'd fold them up and get them ready to put on the shelves. And then when I was a little older, like 14, 15, I schooled. I was a salesperson at the store selling your Bo jeans, polo, chaps, Ralph Lauren.

[00:08:47] Uh  and, and, um, and stuff like that. And, uh, it was, uh, it was a good experience for me. And, uh, to see that my dad was the boss, uh, was definitely cool. [00:09:00] And that was, it was influential for sure, in the sense that. It did show what was possible. And my grandfather owning all these stores going up to the great American cookie company as a teenager and being able to get me and my friends double Oscars for free, uh, felt like a pretty, a pretty cool thing.

[00:09:17] Carl Lanore: [00:09:17] Yeah, absolutely. So now let's, let's stay in this realm, but let's shift the focus for a second. There are people that you met in your life. That you must've thought, and it could have been the friends, fathers of friends that you thought to yourself, these are the kinds of things I want to do. This is the kind of person I want to be when I'm a dad.

[00:09:35] Who would those people be?

[00:09:38] Aaron Singerman: [00:09:38] Um, you know, I think being back, uh, there's not as a kid, I really didn't see anything like that. The, the dads that I thought were cool were probably among the Lee school. You know, the dads that would drive their car super fast, electric kids drank or, or do drugs and have parties at their house, the dads that, uh, encourage the [00:10:00] kids to, to bang as many chicks as they can, or like, you know, the, the, those are the ethic time.

[00:10:05] I thought those were the cool dads. Like that was so cool. His dad lets him, you know, drive his car and doesn't have a license. He lets him take out the car and that's awesome. And in reality, that's a. The shitty dad who is basically a liability, but I thought that was cool. I remember we went on a road trip.

[00:10:23] My friend's dad drove the Mercedes Mercedes at 120 miles an hour for us on the highway. And I thought he was the coolest guy ever, but in reality, he's a moron. You know what I mean? He's driving this car ridiculously fast to impress these children, you know, not, not such a smart decision in retrospect. So as I've gotten older, I've met and talked to and read books on parenting and met some really excellent fathers.

[00:10:47] Uh, and the way you can tell they're excellent fathers is because the children are excellent. Right? So the per the product is how you can tell. Cause you don't really know. Somebody can say this, this, this the other thing, these are the things they do, [00:11:00] but their kids are terrible. It doesn't matter. And you know, not to get into politics, Carl, but one of the things that.

[00:11:06] You know, our, our president, Donald Trump, what are the things that nobody can set? You can say all the things you want about the guy and his politics. I personally have no, his children in his children are unbelievable. There are fantastic people. Uh, they act with respect to everybody. They're not splitting rats.

[00:11:23] You know, I talked to, I had the opportunity to hang out with Eric for awhile, uh, relatively recently. And he told us about how much a disciplinary and his mother was. And how all of the kids that he went with fluid at some of these very elite prep schools, majority of them are, were bad kids or, uh, have turned into that of nonproductive adults

[00:11:43] Carl Lanore: [00:11:43] because they were able to walk

[00:11:45] Aaron Singerman: [00:11:45] all over their parents.

[00:11:46] So they had multiple nannies and, and, uh, and they were given all this privilege and that's real easy to do. You know, if you have a billion dollars, it's super easy to get your kids, anything they want and then get them get as much help as you could possibly get. So you don't have to do anything [00:12:00] with them.

[00:12:00] And, uh, the, the, the true test is what did the kids come out like? So I look at his kids and I'm just amazed. And so to me, that's inspirational because the product like the kids came out. Um, so good and every possible way, regardless of if you like the politics or not, those, those kids are unbelievable.

[00:12:20] Carl Lanore: [00:12:20] Interestingly enough, you just got paid an amazing compliment because we're talking about who influenced you and Sean Lacoste, you said mine would be Aaron Singerman to the question, you know, who, who, who contributed to the most to what you think a good father is. So that was a, that was a pretty good live.

[00:12:38] Uh, thank you very much, Sean, for saying that. So let's, let's go onto the next question here. And that is, um, do you think discipline is different for boys versus girls? You know, discipline is a lightening rod today. When I was raising children, you had to give them time out and, and listen to what they thought.

[00:12:59] And no one was [00:13:00] spanking anybody anymore. Like I got spanked when I was a kid. Do you think the boys have to be disciplined differently than girls? And I know you don't have girls, but I have a feeling you have an opinion about how to discipline boys.

[00:13:12] Aaron Singerman: [00:13:12] Sure. Well, I would love tower, girl. Uh, that's

[00:13:14] Carl Lanore: [00:13:14] Daryl.

[00:13:15] Yeah, Dario. I don't think Daryl's trying anymore. She's

[00:13:19] Aaron Singerman: [00:13:19] not as cool as me as I am, but, uh, I would love to have a girl, but I don't, you know, three little boys and, uh, I am, uh, very traditional, so I have no problem with corporal punishment. Uh, I don't. I don't beat them. I would never hit them like for real, but will I strike them?

[00:13:35] Absolutely. I, I hope that I never have to, but I have had to, and it's made a very, very big impact on them because I do it. So, so, so infrequently. Um, and, uh, the one example I may have given you this example on the show before Carl, I don't remember. I don't remember or not, but for Asher I've only really actually hit Asher one time.

[00:13:55] Really, um, and th the time was when he, uh, this was [00:14:00] a few years ago now, maybe it's three years ago now. Um, so three or four years ago, um, he told me that, uh, he was going outside to play and this was at night. And I said, I don't think you're supposed to go outside right now, man. It's nighttime. You need to get ready.

[00:14:14] And he's like, no, mommy told me that it's okay. I'm like, Oh, okay. And he went outside and she came in, she said, why'd you let him go outside the play? And I was like, well, he told me, you said, you said it was over. Okay. And she goes, I did not tell him it was okay. So I had him come in and I said, all right, Asher.

[00:14:29] So you lied. You told me that mom said, he's like, yeah. I was like, all right, now, put your hand out. I'm going to hit it. And he was like, what? I was like, put your hand down now in front of me, I'm going to hit it. And he put his hand out like that, you know, I went

[00:14:43] Carl Lanore: [00:14:43] like that

[00:14:44] Aaron Singerman: [00:14:44] and you would've thought I had slapped him in the face or something.

[00:14:47] So I hit his hand and he cried hysterically. Like I like, I beat him. And, um, and then, you know, of course, you know how kids are and two or three minutes, he shook it off, went to bed. And, uh, to this [00:15:00] day, you, he will, he remembers that and tells other other kids with the boy is don't lie. Don't lie. This is what happened to me when I lied.

[00:15:08] And he, he recalls it vividly. It's such a big difference. And the reason I did it exactly like that. So I wanted to make sure he knew that I was going to hit him first and knew what he did was wrong. And I let him know this is what's going to happen to you now. And I made him put his hand out and think about it and I did it, and it was very calculated.

[00:15:24] It wasn't a reaction out of emotion. I wasn't angry when I did it. I was sad to have to do it, but because I did it that way, uh, he will remember that for the rest of his life. And, uh, and I think that that's the, really, the thing is when you're disciplining your children, it can't be, you cannot be acting out of anger or emotion.

[00:15:41] That's the way you do something. You'll regret. If I never, ever, if I'm angry, like they're pissing you off and it happens, you better believe I'm not touching them

[00:15:49] Carl Lanore: [00:15:49] because that's, that's a

[00:15:50] Aaron Singerman: [00:15:50] reaction of my, my feelings versus being calculated and say, okay, this is what they did. This is how I'm going to respond.

[00:15:58] And make sure that I'm doing it out of, [00:16:00] uh, a calculated decision.

[00:16:03] Carl Lanore: [00:16:03] You think in retrospect, had your parents handled you the way you handle your children, you would have turned out differently early on. I mean, obviously no one can debate that you're a wonderful human being. You're generous. You're highly intelligent.

[00:16:15] I always, when I first met you. You got me to start reading fiction again, like you, you were you a voracious reader. Um, but do you think that any of these things that we're talking about today and that we're going to continue to talk about? Had they been employed by our generation of pear our parents, which was old degeneration that you would have had a different outcome early on?

[00:16:36] Uh,

[00:16:37] Aaron Singerman: [00:16:37] I think 100%. Yes. I think the things that I'm doing with my sons. Um, nobody, um, maybe if somebody, but almost nobody does the things that I'm doing with my kids then, and I think almost nobody does it now, to be honest with you. Um, probably very few. Um, but back then, no, and honestly, I couldn't even expect my mom and dad didn't have that in them.

[00:16:59] They were [00:17:00] not, they were kind of figuring out as they went along and also my parents did not grow up. Um, They were not hip. They didn't, they didn't, they were, they were, you know, great. Both my mom and dad were great people, great parents, but they weren't, uh, progressive in terms of their thinking on, on raising children, they were, you know, they were doing things the way that they were told to do it and that somebody said it or their mom, my, my, my grandmother told her, my mom or whatever, and, uh, nothing wrong with that.

[00:17:28] And the truth is also Carl, if they would've did what, how I'm. You know, raising my sons for me, I might be in a far worse situation now, which sounds crazy to imagine, but you know, I'm in a very, uh, fortunate position. So it's very hard for me. To say I would change anything. You know, I've had a lot of bad events as you know, happened in my life.

[00:17:47] A lot of tragedy is also a lot of great things, but I wouldn't change. I wouldn't take away any of those bad things because it led me to where I'm at now. And I would never want to change one thing from where I'm at now. So, uh, I [00:18:00] wouldn't want, if I could go back, I wouldn't want my mom or my dad have these kind of conversations with me because I've turned, I had led such an unusual path here.

[00:18:08] I wouldn't want to mess with that at all. That being said, I think parents these days. Definitely. Um, I think both, I think both generations, Carl, I think right now you have people raising a lot of very soft children, um, that are going to be able to end up being very soft.

[00:18:26] Carl Lanore: [00:18:26] Sure. There are people who, if they heard this interview and they heard that you smacked Asher's hand that way, they would think that the worst thing in the world you can do it damages self-esteem.

[00:18:36] So you're right. There's there's this, um, it's all part of the, um, Political correctness, overflow, everybody gets a trophy, uh, which is it's really turned into some horrible, horrible results with, with the children who started out that way. I agree. Yeah.

[00:18:53] Aaron Singerman: [00:18:53] I mean, there's more, there's a lot of entitled young, uh, young adults out there because of, because of that, [00:19:00] that, uh, that reality.

[00:19:01] And I'm doing my best to raise my kids, especially. In a place like Booker Aton with, with all the things that they see around them, it's even more difficult to have to be even more diligent that they understand that what they see here and, uh, Boca is not reacting the normal reality and the things that they see that I have, or that I'm doing is not going to be their future unless they work their ass off together.

[00:19:23] Carl Lanore: [00:19:23] Right. Right. So you, you obviously had like me, uh, you had an introduction into drugs as a very young age. Obviously, that's something you're not going to tolerate in your household with your boys. Are there any other non-negotiable rules that you, you know, I've always believed that you have to pick your fights.

[00:19:44] Like if this is really not a big deal, you don't take your kid to the wall for it, but there are certain things that absolutely, you got to die on that Hill. If you have to, do you have a handful of non-negotiables? I mean, I know drugs has to be one of them, right? You will not allow that to happen.

[00:20:00] [00:20:00] Aaron Singerman: [00:20:00] No, no.

[00:20:01] And, and, and I think part of it, Carl, my advice, my own sons can, could be different than somebody else. So listeners to their sons or daughter, because I did have a history of drugs, personal history, not even my family, but I personally, you know, was, uh, addicted to heroin, uh, intravenous heroin, intravenous cocaine, you know, PO poly addiction.

[00:20:23] And I, and I got out of it. Right. Um, but because of that history, there's no way for me not to. You know, Ray is my children with that in mind. So like in terms of what's okay for them to do, they're not allowed and they will not be allowed to do any kind of drugs around me or anything like that. Ever. Not until they're out of the house and adults.

[00:20:46] And even then I will discourage it. I mean, if you tell Asher, if you say to Asher drugs, are, he's going to tell you for losers. Good. We'll say it. Literally just say that you'll literally, you just say drugs are, and you'll say for losers. Right. [00:21:00] And because we have, uh, things like that that we say, uh, sacraments never.

[00:21:05] And they'll tell you quit, you know, we have, we have a lot of these like that because they're there. How did him and his brain over and over? And if you say those first words, he knows the end of the sentence. So drugs are for losers. So I'm not, uh, I'm not encouraging. Him experimenting. Asher is basically a little me, the rest of them.

[00:21:23] Uh, Aiden's like a little Dariel and then a lodge is this mixed, uh, with the big brain. He's like, these are a little genius, but none of them will that be okay. I want to encourage that. And if marijuana is legal, um, In the country country, which I think it will be in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if it's, if it's recreationally legal in the next 10 years, you will not see me telling them they can go smoke weed.

[00:21:44] It's not going to be okay. They're not as long as I'm paying for anything. If I'm paying for college, they're not smoking weed and they're not drinking. I'm not, those are 21. I'm not allowing them to drink. It's not okay for me to break the law. So there's no exceptions to breaking the law. I won't say it's okay to break the law a little bit.

[00:21:59] There's [00:22:00] none rights, zero.

[00:22:00] Carl Lanore: [00:22:00] Right? And that's the, that's the problem because children see through the contradictions of their parents, you know, like, like, like my dad smoked and told me not to smoke. I ended up smoking in high school. So, you know, if they don't care about what you tell them, they care about what you exemplify to them.

[00:22:20] So if you tell your kids don't ever lie, and then they hear you lying to a coworker that you're sick, not going in today because you're staying home to, you know, to do something that you could tell them. Don't lie from now, till the cows come home, they're going to start lying because you do it.

[00:22:36] Aaron Singerman: [00:22:36] Yeah, kids, kids are much more muted.

[00:22:38] And I'm saying a lot of people know this already, but I see it firsthand. They take in and, and get much more than you think they got. So you see like Aiden is five, right. You know, he is. You know, talking and he's a little, little person, but you wouldn't think he'd understand most of the conversations me and Jerry will have, but in reality, he may not tell me I understand it.

[00:22:59] But later [00:23:00] on the next day, he'll bring up something that I, I said that he'll have got, but I had no idea. He understood that he was just hearing it and not. Not saying, Hey, what about that? He literally just internalized it and brings it back up. So yeah, I think when people think they're being slick and their kids aren't getting it, that you're getting, they're getting it a lot more than you realize.

[00:23:18] Maybe even more than they realize. And, uh, I think that for me, like I said, obviously everybody's different, but for me, uh, because of my history and my past, I can't, I don't believe that I can be lenient with anything where I say one thing and say, listen, don't break the law, but it's okay to drink, even though you're not old enough to do it in the spring, in the law.

[00:23:40] So I, uh, I. On the flip side, I'm not against drinking, you know, if once they're old enough legally to drink, whether that, if that changed 18, I'd be okay with 18. Right. Um, I will also on flip side though, I will tell the kids what I, what I believe about drinking. And I believe that the drinking is, [00:24:00] uh, the number one way that young men make mistakes.

[00:24:03] Carl Lanore: [00:24:03] It's the gateway, you know, everybody's always trying to point that the gate, this drug is the gateway. The gateway is booze. That's the gateway drug. That's it every day. If you're, if you're, if you, your child never drinks, they'll never smoke weed. If they never drink, they'll never do acid. If they don't, that's the gateway drug, but nobody wants to talk about it.

[00:24:21] Cause that's a big tax. Uh, you know, we get a lot of tax money, the government out of alcohol.

[00:24:26] Aaron Singerman: [00:24:26] No doubt about it. No doubt about it. If there's there's statistics on this, like. Uh, men, uh, domestic abuse that alcohol's involved with crazy amount of time. It's a rape alcohol's involved, you know, date rape alcohol's involved, uh, physical violence.

[00:24:42] Alcohol's involved like the number there's, you're crazy high,

[00:24:45] Carl Lanore: [00:24:45] bad decisions in general, who CA I would love somebody to argue with me and say, no, when I'm drunk, I make better decisions when I'm sober. Nobody says that. No, uh, let's let's get up. Sorry.

[00:24:57] Aaron Singerman: [00:24:57] No. I was just gonna say that, that I, I [00:25:00] totally agree and let them in.

[00:25:01] And I'm, I don't want to be hypocritical on the fact that you're saying like, I don't drink because I do drink. Um, but I'm at least conscious of the fact that like, Hey, this is definitely a way to make a decision. That's not like I have, you know, things. I do Carlos, when I drank it, because I'm not really going, we don't go to, you know, go too many places.

[00:25:20] I will buy something on the internet that later I'm like, I wouldn't have bought that if I wasn't drinking. Yeah, I have a few drinks. Yeah. That's my, that's my bad decision making because I don't have that many decisions to make, or I'm sitting at home by myself at night if everybody's in bed, but I'll buy some tennis shoes.

[00:25:35] So I'll be like, why did I buy that? I didn't really want, you know,

[00:25:39] Carl Lanore: [00:25:39] that's funny,

[00:25:39] Aaron Singerman: [00:25:39] but I'm

[00:25:40] Carl Lanore: [00:25:40] drunk shopping, not a good thing junk. So, um, Oh, wrong one. Sorry. That's later. What are the most important qualities that young boys develop, uh, when they're young that will carry through to when they become older.

[00:25:57] Aaron Singerman: [00:25:57] One of the number one things.

[00:25:59] And I think we said [00:26:00] it is sacraments. Don't quit. Do not quit. It's okay to make a decision to stop. Like for example, if Asher said he's playing baseball and he loves it right now, if he told me I don't want to play baseball anymore, I'd rather do something else. I'm not having fun. I would take that as serious consideration.

[00:26:19] I don't know if I will let him quit or not. Cause cause, but if it was a decision to stop, for example, we're throwing the football and uh, and it, it hit his finger, you know? Uh, what does it call like jammed his finger, right, right. That hurts. And he started crying and he started crying and he was, I don't want to do this anymore.

[00:26:34] And I was like, Nope. Now we're definitely keep doing it. And I was like, there's no way you're quitting because you got hurt. No way. Um, so we played a little while longer and I said, did you, are you done playing now? Because after he stopped crying, he's back to him and he's like, yeah, let's do something else.

[00:26:47] No cool. No problem. Right. I'm not going to let them just quit. So quitting the ability that knowing that you have the, uh, the, the option to quit and feeling like at any moment, you can quit and just go. Do something else or whatever, [00:27:00] um, that ability, but in their mind, thinking that it's always an option means that you always have the option that you, you know, at any time, it's hard, they could just stop.

[00:27:09] And so life is hard. There's lots and lots of uncomfortable parts of life. And if you want to be a success, you have to be willing to eat more shit or go through more shit than most people in the higher level of success. The more sacrifice it takes generally. And so I want my kids to be much more successful than me.

[00:27:26] So that means they need to be have the, uh, the propensity for, for pain and suffering because that's, what's going to take to get to that level. They're going to have to go through some shit. And so, number one thing, I reinforced them the most is that you'd never, ever, ever quit. You can't, it cannot be an option for you to quit something just because it sucks.

[00:27:44] Carl Lanore: [00:27:44] Yeah. And I think the magic word there is met with adversity. So you can decide to quit something because you have no interest in any longer or you've achieved a certain level. But if you want to do something. And you're doing it. And you're met with some small adversity and you say, I [00:28:00] want to quit. I think adversity is the magic ingredient.

[00:28:03] They're like, okay. I hit hurt my finger. I want to quit. No, you don't want to quit. You want the pain to go away? You want to keep playing? So let's just keep going. Yeah, no, I think that's brilliant. Yeah. We're going to take a quick commercial break.

[00:28:15] Aaron Singerman: [00:28:15] One thing, Carl, I will say, just to end this is that the, uh, The one big thing is you don't want to keep bashing your head up against the wall either.

[00:28:23] So I wouldn't tell, like if, if my actresses, I want to play pro basketball and it's just not in the cards, you don't want to tell him never, ever quit trying to play basketball. At some point, they need to pivot and say, well, that's not going to happen. Like for me, I love bodybuilding. And bodybuilding is the only thing I can ever think of loving.

[00:28:39] It's the only thing in my life that I consistently love. But at some point I have to say to myself, I am not going to be a mr. Olympia. I'm not going to be the next story and Gates or Lee Haney. So how can I do something in bodybuilding that is in bodybuilding, but making money that isn't an actual bodybuilder and that's how we got to know each other to start off with.

[00:28:59] Carl Lanore: [00:28:59] So, [00:29:00] yeah, you're the, you're the only person, you know, so the show turns 15 years old, the third week of November. And I actually, Anthony Roberts has agreed to come on. He was the first guest I ever did a whole one hour with. And he's right over there. Oh, I know we were messaging. Uh, and, and Hey Anthony, and, uh, and the other person I'm trying to get on his model Depot squad, because he was my very first interview I ever did.

[00:29:24] I did, but you're the only person that ever interviewed me. On superhuman radio. So you hold a

[00:29:34] Aaron Singerman: [00:29:34] show number. Was that, that was all fine.

[00:29:36] Carl Lanore: [00:29:36] I'll find it. Yeah. I have to find that it's, it's actually, it's on it's on DVDs because I burnt them onto DVDs to store them. So I have to find those old shows. But I do have to get that.

[00:29:47] Aaron Singerman: [00:29:47] I want to say it was in the low hundreds because it was in 2007 or 2000.

[00:29:50] Carl Lanore: [00:29:50] It was the end that it was the, it was the beginning of 2008. I had just moved into the apartment. I just came back from Phoenix. It was going through my divorce. And you reached out to me with the email and that started the whole thing.

[00:30:00] [00:29:59] So it was early 2008, February, March around there. I'll find it. I'll definitely find it. I will going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, we have lots of more questions. Stay tuned. This is another episode of fathers and sons. We'll be right back.

[00:30:12] Aaron Singerman: [00:30:12] This is the superhuman channel doing reps with the weight of the world.

[00:30:20] Carl Lanore: [00:30:20] Welcome back. We're talking with Aaron Singerman. This is another episode of fathers and sons. Negotiating a parenting today is very, very difficult. You have to be. You have to have strong opinions and you have to have strong convictions to raise good children today. Because if you listen to the masses, you'll, you'll, your kids will be confused throughout their life.

[00:30:43] Um, do you ever, do you ever talk to the boys about aggression? I know. I think Asher's doing some form of martial arts right now, correct?

[00:30:51] Aaron Singerman: [00:30:51] They all do. They all do out Aiden, an actor do Brazilian jujitsu and, uh, Elijah's doing karate. Um, [00:31:00] And, uh, yeah, they, they all have, they've all been in physical stuff forever.

[00:31:04] And the good thing about having a bunch of brothers is they are, uh, they're constantly fighting each other and battling, and you know, it's a, it's like a constant, uh, WWE match out or, uh, at my house. And, uh, I think that, um, that physicality is actually very important for boys and I I'm, I'm a big proponent of letting them fight it out.

[00:31:25] And I mean, they don't really fight. They're not actually beating the shit out of each other, but they're, they're wrestling and sometimes people get hurt and that's okay too. Um, they're supposed to test limits and test boundaries and they're supposed to get hurt. Um, we don't want them to get her permanently, but, uh, they, they do.

[00:31:42] Uh, and so, um, in terms of aggression, You know, look there's, I don't want my guys to be passive and I don't want them to take shit from anybody. You know, on the flip side, we absolutely do not tolerate bullies. So they're not that that would be the number one way for, uh, [00:32:00] for Delta to, you know, give them a smack ever to bully anyone, even each other.

[00:32:05] Um, it's a little more acceptable for them bullying each other to some degree, but as long as they're all laughing and nobody is crying and saying, stop, that's the one big rule. One of them that stopped the other one. That's it. That's got, they got to stop. Just keep going. Um, so I do talk to them about not, you know, not getting bullied and not allowing anybody to make you feel, um, less than you than you are.

[00:32:29] And, you know, we really enforced, reinforced with the, with the guys how special they are, you know, how handsome they are, how smart they are. And, uh, you know, I think that they all have this incredible self-confidence. Uh, that, that it's almost like other worldly self-confidence. I mean, Aiden Nasher will get up and in front of a group of adults and sing on the spot or dance, or, you know, they have no fear of, you know, even so much so that it almost is concerning where he has no fear to walk up to an adult and say, hi, my name's Aiden, what's her name?

[00:32:58] What do you do? You know, [00:33:00] or it's like, okay, it didn't like, it's good to be friendly, but you don't just walk up to people and start talking to them. Um, but, um, they, they have incredible, um, self-confidence and so I think a lot of that is from reinforcing over and over. If someone it's probably genetic and then, uh, some of it I think is from re being reinforced over and over again, that if somebody doesn't like you, or if something's not nice to you, it's something that's wrong with them.

[00:33:22] It has nothing to do with you. Um, and, uh, we, I say that all the time and I feel like they, they, they believe that I'm not just, I say it. They believe if somebody is not nice or mean to them or doesn't want to be their friend, that's good because something's probably wrong with them. You don't wanna be their friend.

[00:33:37] Anyway,

[00:33:37] Carl Lanore: [00:33:37] you know, that's a valuable lesson because all of us, uh, through life have periods of time where, um, people who don't treat us nice and appear not to like us, we tend to want to win them over. And we waste a lot of energy. Learning that there's nothing worth winning them over for. So your boys already have that, like, uh, th th they're going to nip [00:34:00] that in the bud.

[00:34:00] It's not even going to be, uh, uh, style of action. Do you talk to them about when to use aggression? Like, do you ever say, look, you know, don't bully, but if the, if so-and-so pushes you, you know, whack them. You have a total. Yeah,

[00:34:14] Aaron Singerman: [00:34:14] yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, yes, we don't have, they haven't gotten into him any, any in many situations like that.

[00:34:21] Um, but I definitely would not allow them to be pushed and, and not, uh, reciprocate, you know what I mean? I don't want, I wouldn't want them to, I never want any of them to go and start any fights. Um, cause that's not, that is bullying in a larger sense and dare yellow is, you know, Bullied as a kid. And it's very, very, very, very sensitive to bullying in general.

[00:34:42] But when, if they have, uh, one of the things we'd say is, look, if you see your brother, somebody hurting her, there you go. Save them. You know, you go, and if they're hurting your brother, you make sure you hurt the other kid worse. You know, you go take, take care of them. Problem until it's Asher for Aiden. I tell him for Hayden Dasher and everybody protects the lives because he's the little guy.

[00:35:00] [00:35:00] Um, and like the two older ones are huge. They're both 99 percentile height and, uh, Aiden is 99 percentile weight too. Um, so they're going to be big kids. Elijah is the little nugget, you know, he's the smallest on the scale and Oprah's actually smallest physically. Um, but, uh, yeah, we tell them to protect each other.

[00:35:19] And, uh, like I said, they've been very lucky in the sense that. So far in life, they haven't been in any other kids comp and push them or get into any kind of a fight. Now that probably won't last forever. But I would imagine after doing Brazilian jujitsu and fighting as brothers for a, since he was three.

[00:35:38] So, you know, as long as they keep that up, you know, that that sense of physical confidence is important too, because if you are physically confident, And know that you can handle yourself. You generally get into less altercations to begin with because people see that in you. They can see that confidence, you look like a hard target.

[00:35:54] They're not going up and approaching the big guy. He looks like he can beat the shit out of you, you know? Right. [00:36:00] Um,

[00:36:00] Carl Lanore: [00:36:00] well you will, you, will you let your boys get involved in physical culture? You know, whether it's, uh, uh, weightlifting, uh, uh, powerlifting, bodybuilding, where you will, you, will you let them find it themselves?

[00:36:13] Or do you think that you'll start bringing them to the gym with you? Well, we

[00:36:17] Aaron Singerman: [00:36:17] own the gym, obviously. So they go to the gym all the time. I mean, they're in the gym quite a bit. Right. So in the Carlene you use for the gym right now and you never got to see the gym?

[00:36:25] Carl Lanore: [00:36:25] No. Isn't that the one we trained in, you bought it, the one that was

[00:36:29] Aaron Singerman: [00:36:29] Kim for my birthday, you came and you saw the dress.

[00:36:31] Carl Lanore: [00:36:31] We got to go and shut.

[00:36:32] Aaron Singerman: [00:36:32] Yeah. Yeah. So, um, uh, the gym is fantastic and so they love going to the gym. Um, they they're already like interested. They've been seeing me and Jerry all workout since they've been born. And, you know, the I'll, you know, flex forum and we, they know all the compulsory poses. So every one of them can, you know, hit a front of a bicep.

[00:36:50] Uh, uh, Elijah likes to show off his calves. We'll do a rear, double bicep. It's down his toes. He can see his calves. So they're already in, they already, you know, they've all [00:37:00] met everybody, you know, for Asher, Asher knows, you know, Kai green and he knows Jay and they all know him. I mean, Yeah, they all liked me.

[00:37:09] He was as a baby. I have pictures of him being held by, uh, Sean road and flax. Um, everybody come in, Jay and, and so they've seen him grow up, you know, through social media and through, through going to shows. Um, so he's been backstage with our, all the, the Olympia he's, uh, you know, he's gotten, he's literally grown up in the sport of bodybuilding.

[00:37:29] So, uh, absolutely, absolutely. I want him to lift weights to get into a Tran. Um, I don't know if I would want it to be a bodybuilder that's actually on stage competing, uh, necessarily if he wanted to do that, I would support him, uh, any of these guys and my guys who wanted to do that. Um, but I wouldn't push them to compete or to be a bodybuilder.

[00:37:52] I certainly would not encourage them to be a professional bodybuilder. Um, as much as I love the sport. It's not something I would say, Hey, I want you to, I also [00:38:00] wouldn't encourage them to be a professional football player or, you know, quite a few other things that I would if they wanted to. And they needed it, I'd be proud of them.

[00:38:07] I certainly wouldn't be not proud of Asher serum and the provider there, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't push him towards that. And if he said, Hey dad, what do you think about me being mr. Olympia one day, I would say probably not the best use of, uh, of your time. And, uh, I would prefer you, you know, Not the pro bodybuilder.

[00:38:25] Not because I don't love Probio. I love it. But there's a lot of risks that are associated with that, that I don't know if I would want to encourage him to take.

[00:38:32] Carl Lanore: [00:38:32] Yeah, no, I agree. And the rewards are limited, you know, there's, uh, like in so many pro sports, you know, there's a fraction of 1% that actually.

[00:38:40] Can make a living at it and everybody else has struggles and starves for their profession, for their chosen sport.

[00:38:46] Aaron Singerman: [00:38:46] And it's more, it's worse even now than it was Carl. Back in the day, we did the show there. Now, the, the, the world of social media and Instagram reward people with, um, more engagement and more [00:39:00] celebrity versus more actual accomplishment on, on stage, you know,

[00:39:04] Carl Lanore: [00:39:04] Paul Donovan happened to make this comment a little earlier, but since you made that comment about back in the day, when we did the show, he says, Oh my God, this takes me back to off topic so many years ago.

[00:39:13] Yeah, that was, that was a unique moment that will never be reproduced because the environment the, today we couldn't do off topic because of the environment we would be, uh, quite often it would be,

[00:39:25] Aaron Singerman: [00:39:25] it would be, we would be demonetized that's for sure.

[00:39:28] Carl Lanore: [00:39:28] Um, do you now, your boys are kind of young for this question, but you, you see yourself giving them latitude to disagree with you about things.

[00:39:38] Aaron Singerman: [00:39:38] So as of right now, the answer will be no. Um, because it's, it's, you know, there's nothing for us to disagree about it as they get older. And it's like, if we're talking about. You know, bigger believes or politics, which is what comes up now. Then I would encourage them to have healthy debate and, uh, I would be happy to have conversation with them as long [00:40:00] as it was very respectful manner.

[00:40:01] They were disrespectful. I wouldn't be okay with it, but, um, respect is the one thing that I would require, same thing with employees here. Like I'm, I'm okay with them, disagree with people who disagree with me all the time here. Yeah, we have 150 personalities in here and quite often my idea, isn't the best idea and that's okay.

[00:40:19] I'd rather them tell me, Hey, I think that's a bad idea. This is what I think I'd like them to do that now. But if they said that's a shitty idea, you don't know what you're talking about. That would be a problem. You get fired

[00:40:28] Carl Lanore: [00:40:28] because of the delivery. It's not that it's not that they disagree with you.

[00:40:31] It's their delivery. Lacks,

[00:40:32] Aaron Singerman: [00:40:32] respect. Yeah. So if, as long as, as long as ASHRAE and Elijah were respectful and their disagreement and we could talk, then I would be totally okay with it. And I did almost, almost encourage it. I mean, I will load up. I don't want to, I wouldn't want them to not feel like they could talk to me about different ideas that may not be the same as mine.

[00:40:50] Um, and maybe, you know, that's the one thing they say, there's a famous quote that says, you know, um, Uh, that you learn the most from your students when your, like your [00:41:00] children, as they say, your peers, you learn from, uh, or your teachers, you learn peers, you learn and you learn the most from your students.

[00:41:06] So for me, the kid, my kids are like my students. So I would, uh, I would absolutely encourage a healthy,

[00:41:13] Carl Lanore: [00:41:13] respectful debate. Um,

[00:41:16] Aaron Singerman: [00:41:16] not now though, three years old, there was no,

[00:41:19] Carl Lanore: [00:41:19] no, no, no. They're, they're not saying that. Yeah, they, they can't make those kinds of decisions or choices at that at this age. So when, uh, when a boy goes through puberty, he, he has to change the relationship between him and his father that allows him to start to develop autonomy and feel like a man.

[00:41:38] And quite often that elicits a level of rebellion. Now it doesn't have to be full-scale rebellion. Run away from home, do drugs and lots of stuff, but sometimes it comes up and often all of a sudden these disagreements happen with dad and you cast a very big shadow, uh, for a variety of reasons, your demeanor, your success, [00:42:00] your, your physical size.

[00:42:02] Will you be sensitive to that and allow the boys to break with you without having to try to force them to do things your way, you know what I'm going for here.

[00:42:13] Aaron Singerman: [00:42:13] Yeah, I dunno. I don't know. Um, so I don't know how it'll look. So it's harder for me to say. Um, I know for me, I, I believe anyway, Dariel and I are so different as parents than, than I was, my parents worked for me, um, that I just don't know.

[00:42:31] Like, so for me, you know, like, It was more of my mom. I'm thinking like with this, with my dad, you know, I wouldn't want my dad to drop me off at school. I want to like walk, like drop me off a ways away and I'll walk there or like the movies. When I go to the movies, I would want him to not, not be waiting outside, like came out, um, and stuff like that.

[00:42:51] I, I almost, I feel like I could be wrong. It is, is me being hopeful is that I'm so different than my dad that. That [00:43:00] his friends are gonna be like, I want your dad to come around and pick up, pick you up. You know, that he'll he'll know that his dad is different than other dads. And that's what I hope anyway.

[00:43:08] Know, obviously you can't predict, but I mean, that's, if I didn't know any fathers like me growing up, you know, I didn't know the anybody that was like that. So it's hard for me to project, but if it's imagining them rebelling and starting fights with me for no reason, I just don't know if that's in the cards and that could be totally wrong.

[00:43:32] Carl Lanore: [00:43:32] And maybe rebel was the wrong word. I think you actually gave better examples. Like dad isn't cool. I don't want him picking me up. I want, you know, and it could be just that it could be that like where Asher says to you, Hey dad, you mind if I meet you a block away, don't pick me up in front of the girl's house.

[00:43:49] Would you be sensitive to that or would you, would you be insulted by that?

[00:43:53] Aaron Singerman: [00:43:53] No. Um, so that is, that is a specific example. I would be okay with that. Uh, I would want him to [00:44:00] explain why he felt like that. And if he, if he felt like that strongly enough, it's no, it's no, uh, no, no big deal for me to do that. Uh, but I don't want it to be honest with himself on why he felt like that was what he needed to do, because obviously for me as a kid, Um, like all the kids were getting dropped off by their parents.

[00:44:18] They are all being picked up by their parents. You know, why did I want my, my mom or my dad to, to not be seen? You know what I mean? Like I would have asked him, like, what do you think about that? And tell me why you feel like that. Um, and I would definitely think about his answer, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't force her.

[00:44:34] I'm like, no, you're doing what I say, I'm driving. I don't care how you feel. And I wouldn't do. I'm not that much, you know, me, Carl, I'm not much of a hard ass with it. Really.

[00:44:41] Carl Lanore: [00:44:41] You know, the funny thing about you is that, um, you are, uh, so even tempered, you know, like I remember lots of different stories come to mind, but the one that comes to mind was the dog park and Rusty's, and you, you were at the dog park with her steam and.

[00:44:57] This guy like went to hit [00:45:00] Rusty's cause he was coming by his dog and you were real casual. And you says he did it a couple times and you didn't say anything. And then finally he did it again and you just, you told him, look, if you do that again, I'm going to F you up and you had all the resolve, like you were going to do it, but you gave him four warning.

[00:45:18] Like, like if you do that one more time and you've always been a very, even. Uh, tempered person, which is a really unique quality in this day and age, because so many people act viscerally and just like alcohol, they make the wrong decisions, you know, I'm guilty about, I, you know, I I'm guilty of acting viscerally from time to time in my life and making the wrong decisions.

[00:45:39] So, but yeah,

[00:45:40] Aaron Singerman: [00:45:40] Darryl Dario will tell you I'm a robot I'm part robot. Um, uh, because, uh, you would ask her cause I don't have, uh, I don't. It's not that I don't have a lot of emotions because I think that I have as much or more than most people. I just think that I handle it differently. And I, I, I keep a lot of things in, [00:46:00] and not in an unhealthy way and not in a healthy way where it doesn't, uh, help me to let it out.

[00:46:05] I don't feel like a cathartic release of putting out emotion. I feel like it's more of an instability or, um, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't help me. To, um, externalize my emotion. So instead, a lot of times I'll just keep it in, think about it. And then before you know, it, uh, I've taken up enough time that it doesn't.

[00:46:24] I realize that that whatever it was, didn't even matter in the first place, I just really care. I've always been good at realizing that. That basically I'm in charge of how I feel and that I don't allow anybody really to make me feel anything. I choose how I feel. So if Carla, if you, right now, I said, you know what?

[00:46:42] I fucked you are in her show, boring and hung up. You know, I might initially feel mad, but after a moment or two, and I mean, I certainly wouldn't express it a moment or two. I realized, you know what, Carl, obviously having a bad day and, uh, it can't have anything to do with me. So I'm just going to move on from it.

[00:46:59] And I will literally [00:47:00] take that and it will just go to another place that's a long way away. And quite often, just by the time I do that for a little bit, the motion's going on with the other. And so Jerry Hall would tell you she is an emotional person. You know, that, uh, that I, that my emotion, my level of emotion is just very, very low, but I don't think that's the case at all.

[00:47:19] Carl Lanore: [00:47:19] Your outward outward display may be maybe low, but your inward feeling is still there. Uh, before we take, take the next break. Is that something you learned by example, was your dad like that was your dad, was Jerry really even keeled, uh, who was in, who is that kind of person when you were growing up?

[00:47:37] Anybody?

[00:47:40] Aaron Singerman: [00:47:40] No, I don't think so. I mean, my dad definitely wasn't, uh, an angry person or an explosive person in any way, but I wouldn't say he was necessarily like me in terms of being even keeled. Um, No, I don't think so. I don't know. I think, I think that a lot of it is honestly, I think a lot. Yeah. Other things that, that, [00:48:00] um, that I've developed that are part of my personality now are really developed over time and they're learned, and that it's, it's just like, you know, No telling myself enough times that you reinforce it, just like when Asher says sing mins are winners.

[00:48:13] Singer has never quit those things that we go over over and over and over again, if you do it enough times yourself, that kind of self speech, self speak becomes reality. You know, you pretend enough. And all of a sudden that is a, that is who you are. And that is reality. And, and I think that that's something that's 99% our learned and probably.

[00:48:33] One percentile genetics for most of those things. Cause you know, you know, Carl I'm naturally, you know, just like naturally a very lazy person. When we did our public radio, I had this incredible ability to sell advertising, but I didn't want to get off my ass and call people and uh, and do it. And uh, and as soon as I got pregnant with that, where we got pregnant with amateur, it gave me the, the impetus to [00:49:00] start making those calls and all of a sudden.

[00:49:01] Yeah. I was generating a million plus dollars a month in advertising revenue because I was, I was very motivated to bring the money in. Whereas when me and you were doing it, I was like, nah, who cares? I'm doing all right. I'm paying the bills, you know, uh, have some date money. That's all I really needed.

[00:49:17] And, um, and that's, uh, so that, that really is me. That's that's me. The old Aaron is the guy who did his little pocket. Well to keep going and not be totally knocked off, you know, I would do the minimum requirement. And now obviously the whole flip, the other direction where, you know, some people would say that I'm too, too driven or too focused on success or that it's too, that I'm too much, uh, too intense, too driven.

[00:49:45] So,

[00:49:46] Carl Lanore: [00:49:46] but that's what if that's what you need, that's what you need for this part of the journey that, that may change someday. Dave Paulson, Ella says, bring back pulsing radio.

[00:49:57] Aaron Singerman: [00:49:57] Dad's watching. That was a great, that was a great show with [00:50:00] Dave. It's funny, Carl, you're going off topic with you led to so many. Uh, so many different shows, radio shows and, uh, you know, we do, I do now, um, on Thursday nights I do a live show and, uh, actually I had a really cool guest this Thursday of Rabo Neal who killed bin Laden is on, on this Thursday.

[00:50:17] Right. Which I'm excited about. And we've had so many cool people. So I'm still getting to use the, uh, the lessons that I learned with you back in the day now on live TV, podcasts, whatever. And, uh, it's given me an opportunity to interview a lot of really cool people. I wouldn't otherwise get to talk to them.

[00:50:34] Carl Lanore: [00:50:34] I tune in from time to time. I like, I'm a big fan of Roger Stone and I know you've had him on a couple of times already. And so, uh, yeah, I know. How cool is that? I mean, he's your friend, how many people can say Roger Stone is their friend. You know what I mean? So I

[00:50:49] Aaron Singerman: [00:50:49] really would say negative things about the whole robbery.

[00:50:52] Carl Lanore: [00:50:52] Well, they look, they can have their opinions and everybody can coexist. But the interesting thing about all of this is when you look at your [00:51:00] journey and I don't want to switch gears because we want to come back and talk about the boys. One more time. I have one more question for you, but when you look at your journey from where you started, you know, Uh, heroin addict, kicking methadone.

[00:51:13] We started with off topic, and then you went to work for Dave Palumbo and, and where you are today and where you're going. It's like, I, I often think about you cause you know, I see you on Facebook and I think, and I, and I think about off topic and I think about where you started and where you are and it w it would make a great movie, to be honest with you and inspire an inspiring movie because so many people feel disenfranchised today and they feel like their lives suck and they can't see how they're ever going to change your lives.

[00:51:46] And you, I don't ever think you ever really thought about changing your life. It was just like, Like that game of leap leapfrog, we used to play right from the LA like you just jumped on a different log. It took you up the road a little bit, and then you jumped on another log. It took you a little [00:52:00] further up the road and it's like, you've been riding this wave, uh, since I know you, it's really amazing.

[00:52:07] Aaron Singerman: [00:52:07] Yeah. I thought I liked the leapfrog analogy because that does definitely see them how it is. And it's been, uh, it has been very interesting and I definitely the writing a book movies a whole, uh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't, I don't know about if that, how that would work. Certainly be interesting.

[00:52:24] Um, but a book is a hundred percent going to happen. It's just, I just need to have, uh, the next chapter of my journey closed so I'm can write the book, but there's absolutely no doubt. You know, I've talked to. People about helping me. I have a few people that offer to publish something. So I'm also friendly with Chris ruddy who owns Newsmax, which is right down the road and they own a publishing company on Newsmax.

[00:52:47] And Chris, uh, Chris told me, as soon as I want to write a book, he's ready to do it. So, I mean, they're definitely a few people that could make battery reality, which would be super cool. And who knows if it's popular, but I agree with you, Carl. Um, [00:53:00] Th this day and age, we need more positive stories of people that really came from the bottom because the, the one thing that I hear more than anything else, um, when I tell the story of addiction and people follow the story is that, um, Uh, is from parents like my, like somebody like my mom or my even parents, my age now practically where they say, you know, hearing your story gives me hope for my son, hope for my daughter or cause there's so many people that have problems with addiction now, themselves or their children, where they're like, I hearing that you did all of this and accomplished so much gives me hope that I can.

[00:53:38] And definitely a it's definitely a. Would be a great thing to, to write a book that helped people

[00:53:45] Carl Lanore: [00:53:45] do a movie. I get to play myself. Of

[00:53:48] Aaron Singerman: [00:53:48] course,

[00:53:49] Carl Lanore: [00:53:49] I get to click and Carla, Nora, as himself, I stay tuned. We'll be right back. Stay tuned channel

[00:53:55] Aaron Singerman: [00:53:55] where brawn and brains finally meet.

[00:54:01] [00:54:00] Welcome

[00:54:02] Carl Lanore: [00:54:02] back. Aaron has given us a lot of time today. I know he's probably got people waiting for him to get off of this interview so he can run his business. Is empire. Oh, so, um, I'm on parlor and I think that didn't you write that I entrepreneur building an empire on your parlor?

[00:54:18] Aaron Singerman: [00:54:18] My, uh, I always put it in my bio on everywhere and I'm in the empire building business.

[00:54:23] It's from a raking bad. Um, and I always loved that line, um, because that's, that's, uh, I mean the supplement business now, but the M Vajra building businesses is the overarching,

[00:54:35] Carl Lanore: [00:54:35] let's say it's a, it's a bigger umbrella. Okay. So here's the last question I'm gonna ask you. When you're gone, how do you want your boys to finish this sentence?

[00:54:45] My dad was,

[00:54:50] Aaron Singerman: [00:54:50] um, my dad was, uh, just a question, Carlos. There was a lot, a lot, I would say.

[00:54:59] Carl Lanore: [00:54:59] We'll say it [00:55:00] was just the things. Yeah.

[00:55:03] Aaron Singerman: [00:55:03] Yeah, my dad was somebody who loved me, cared about me, everything that he could do to improve and better my life and my chances while not, uh, spoiling me or giving me more than I needed and created the kind of discipline.

[00:55:20] Uh, that's required to be, to Excel at a, uh, a life that's not easy, you know? And, uh, I would hope that they, um, They remember me fondly and that, um, you know, they know how much I love them, you know, that's the number one thing. So that's beautiful. That's beautiful.

[00:55:41] Carl Lanore: [00:55:41] Um, look, I know you're busy. I really do know you're busy.

[00:55:43] I was saying that, but it's true. I know you're running your empire and there's probably people waiting for you. I want to thank you for making time. I know we, you, you, you, you are so busy right now that you can't even plan very far in advance. So we, we had.

[00:55:56] Aaron Singerman: [00:55:56] Yes.

[00:55:57] Carl Lanore: [00:55:57] Yeah. And you have to literally like jump and fly [00:56:00] somewhere and all that sort of stuff.

[00:56:00] So I want to thank you for making time to do this show today.

[00:56:05] Aaron Singerman: [00:56:05] Carl always, always for you,

[00:56:07] Carl Lanore: [00:56:07] you know, what's funny. I, I text you sometimes and. You literally respond immediately. And I know you're hammered. I know you're I can see your phone. Your phone was lighting up and buzzing and lighting up through the whole interview.

[00:56:20] It's like every five seconds. And I'm thinking to myself, does he respond to everybody like this? Or is it because he sees my name come up, that he reads it right away.

[00:56:30] Aaron Singerman: [00:56:30] It's cause of you Carl, 100%. Yeah. I'm sorry, you're going to get me in trouble. People are going to get mad and watch this again. Not at me.

[00:56:36] Carl Lanore: [00:56:36] Why don't yeah. Why don't does he respond to my text messages faster?

[00:56:40] Aaron Singerman: [00:56:40] Okay. I know there'll be all right now. Next thing to me, I can't believe you've write them back.

[00:56:45] Carl Lanore: [00:56:45] All right, look, man, I love you. I thank you for being on the show today and hopefully we'll see each other soon. Okay.

[00:56:52] Aaron Singerman: [00:56:52] I hope so, you know, you guys, you, uh, at least provided down to Boca anytime

[00:56:57] Carl Lanore: [00:56:57] we're were moving into the new house next week.

[00:57:00] [00:56:59] And then after we went, yes, let's see WhatsApp

[00:57:04] Aaron Singerman: [00:57:04] or Tennessee.

[00:57:05] Carl Lanore: [00:57:05] Oh, I know. Well, now we're going to play on weight. We're talking about coming to Florida in December, so we'll probably see you then, because that's what we're going to do. All right,

[00:57:12] Aaron Singerman: [00:57:12] but aren't you didn't you tell me you're living, right, right.

[00:57:15] Close to where I'm at of Tennessee.

[00:57:16] Carl Lanore: [00:57:16] Well, Louisville is only a few hours away from where your new offices in Tennessee. I mean, literally I could drive down there on a Monday and come home on a Tuesday, you know, so that's what we'll do. That's it. All right. Cool. All right. Talk to you soon, brother.

[00:57:30] Aaron Singerman: [00:57:30] Thank you.

[00:57:33] Carl Lanore: [00:57:33] All right. So there you go. Great interview. You know what I noticed? Um, one of the things that I noticed about. Uh, people who seem to be great fathers is that they have very definite opinions of what parenting is supposed to be. They have a plan. Um, I didn't have that plan. Uh, I think my kids turned out really good anyway, but.

[00:57:54] I didn't have that plan, but that seems to be a common thread in people who seem [00:58:00] to do it. Right. I'm going to take my last commercial break. Stay with me. We'll be right back with more.

[00:58:04] Aaron Singerman: [00:58:04] This is the superhuman channel evolution just got kicked

[00:58:08] Carl Lanore: [00:58:08] up a notch

[00:58:13] to those of you who stuck around. Thank

[00:58:15] Aaron Singerman: [00:58:15] you,

[00:58:20] Carl Lanore: [00:58:20] coach. Rob , uh, wife, uh, Jennifer is having surgery today. That's why we didn't have the, uh, blueprint power hour. And it gave me an opportunity to interview Aaron because Aaron couldn't, he originally had set up an interview for last week, but then he had to travel. Um, and so he said, well, if you text me the day before, I can tell you for sure if I can do the show.

[00:58:41] And so when coach Rob said, he couldn't do the show today, we reached out to Aaron and he like a true champion. He, he jumped right in, you know, It is interesting. I've interviewed, uh, Ben Greenfield, uh, Mark Bell, Chris Duffin, and now Aaron Singerman. And we have more [00:59:00] people that we're going to move forward with this, uh, with season two, starting next year, if you know anybody who you think needs to be interviewed because they are just great dads and they're raising boys and that doesn't have to be all boys.

[00:59:12] It could have two boys and a girl doesn't matter.

[00:59:18] This is the end of the show. Well, my throat's thought to give out, um, I'd like to interview them so you can send your suggestions to on This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and, uh, we'll reach out to them and see if they're interested and see if we can get them on the show. But definitely the one salient characteristic

[00:59:45] of all. Fathers who seem to be great fathers is they have, they have strong opinions about what it is to be a good parent. [01:00:00] And more importantly, they have courage to raise their children the way they think they should raise them. And not the way some book or some TV show or some group of friends thinks, um, When we look at young adults today, who would the children of the everybody gets a trophy

[01:00:23] Aaron Singerman: [01:00:23] period of life.

[01:00:25] Carl Lanore: [01:00:25] When we look at, uh, young adults today who a part of this, uh, There's a movement, uh, to, you know, don't, don't, don't ever spank your child. And I don't mean beat them. I mean, give them a slap on the ass. Don't do that. That just destroys the self-esteem. If anything has been shown is raising children without boundaries.

[01:00:49] Raising children without respect. And what I mean by that is I know people whose children spit in their faces and they talk now don't do that. Don't do that. Mommy doesn't like that though. You [01:01:00] gotta, sometimes you gotta smack the kid in the ass. On the hand. I think what Aaron said was great because the anticipation of what was to come was probably worse than the actual slap on the hand.

[01:01:10] But when you look at these children who were raised. Uh, with no respect with no boundaries with no discipline thinking that they were perfect for doing nothing. This is what breeds entitlement. And this is what breeds the lack of a successful life. And we see it a lot. And if we could say anything about my generation that raised these children, sadly, we can see that a lot of these kids have very little motivation.

[01:01:41] Uh, For life and think that they are owed everything. When you add social media into the mix, it just, it's not a good thing. So if you're a young person planning on having children, um, or if you've got young children already listen to some of my guests [01:02:00] and what they talk about and look at their children, how well behaved and wonderful little human beings they are and ask yourself.

[01:02:08] Do I want a kid that's going to scream at me and spit at me and target where somebody thinks I'm, um, I'm stealing someone else's child, or do I want a child that when I asked them to do something, they do it and it may be painful to your opinion of what a parent should be to get that results. But you have a choice whether to do it or not.

[01:02:33] Because the children we raised today is the population tomorrow. And we see what's happening with the young people today and what they're fighting for, what they think they're fighting for and what they're not willing to do. And they all want to stay home and nobody wants to work. And everybody just wants to be a famous Instagram model.

[01:02:53] I mean, it's really a sad, sad statement where we are today. And unfortunately, [01:03:00] That what we are seeing manifested today started twenty-five years ago, raising those children. So listen to these episodes, learn something. If you take one piece of information and use it, that's it. And you don't have to be as successful as my, you know, I'm looking at successful people because their lives are interesting.

[01:03:23] And then they have wonderful children. And so they. And, and, you know, they have definite opinions of raising children. They have the courage of their convictions. Those two qualities are why they're successful too. They believed in themselves enough to do what they thought they needed to do. They didn't need anybody else's approval and they had definite opinions and they had a plan and they're raising their children the same way.

[01:03:49] It's fascinating to me. It really is. It should be fascinating to you too. All right, that's it for today, please share the show. Share all the shows, help us build the audience because the more people that listen the [01:04:00] better. The outcome of the human population will be see you tomorrow with more super human radio.

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