[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] I let the cat out of the bag. I let the cat out of the bag. Ah, I have to play, I'll start it again in a second. Okay. So today's the show that almost didn't happen literally right up to this second, I've been working on getting us online, as you can see, Nathan Heaney is in the background there. Usually I bring my guests on after I do my little announcements.

[00:00:18] How are you doing Nathan?

[00:00:19] Nathan Heaney: [00:00:19] I'm very good. Thank

[00:00:20] Carl Lanore: [00:00:20] you. Call I, so sit tight. Let me just do this real quick. Uh, this show is this. This show is brought to you by legendary foods. Eat legends. barry.com is the website. SHR 10 is the code to get 10% off, but also let them know that you heard about them here on superhuman radio.

[00:00:36] They have great low sugar, low carb high protein products that will keep you in your dietary lane. Check them out. Eat legendary.com. That's HR 10 is the code. Okay. Now I had planned on doing this as I was bringing my guest on. And he'll explain why in a minute.

[00:01:01] [00:01:00] So tell, just tell the audience Nathan, why this is an important song to you.

[00:01:09] Nathan Heaney: [00:01:09] Okay.

[00:01:10] Carl Lanore: [00:01:10] So

[00:01:10] Nathan Heaney: [00:01:10] I'm a professional boxer from the UK. In England from so conscience and yet I'm a big stoke city supporter. And when I'm walkouts to me, fights are walkouts to Delilah, which you still see something very silly. And yeah.

[00:01:24] So walk outside the place goes crazy. Yeah, it's amazing. Amazing. So that's why it's very important to me.

[00:01:31] Carl Lanore: [00:01:31] So you you're, you're called the pride of stoke because of this, right? You're a local who's risen to the top and professional, uh, and boxing and, and this is the, is this the theme song? Is this your choice or is it because the city of stoke calls this, their national Anthem?

[00:01:48] Nathan Heaney: [00:01:48] Nah, it's so basically stoke city is a football team. Or what you call soccer over there, but playing football. So, um, yeah, so some Anthem sensitive. So when you're in the suns and you're [00:02:00] watching the same, so what we're seeing with, although we do change the word slightly to make it a bit more ebook, it'd be more sweaty.

[00:02:07] Carl Lanore: [00:02:07] Okay. So th th they're more appropriate for the sport that you'll watch string at the time.

[00:02:11] Nathan Heaney: [00:02:11] Really. So that's why, so that's fine too.

[00:02:13] Carl Lanore: [00:02:13] Yeah, very cool. So, okay. So first of all, you've been a long time fan of the show, you and I have communicated for quite a few years. Um, you, uh, you, you are right now undefeated in your, in your weight class, correct?

[00:02:26] Nathan Heaney: [00:02:26] Yes.

[00:02:29] Carl Lanore: [00:02:29] Okay. And that's a pretty big, a pretty big deal that as time goes on, it became becomes more and more difficult to hold on to that. But we're going to get into that as well. So how, how old were you when you started to enjoy boxing?

[00:02:45] Nathan Heaney: [00:02:45] I've been boxing from the age of nine years old. I'm 31 now. So I've been boxing for a very long time, but my dad sent me originally to look after myself.

[00:02:53] So, you know, when you're on the streets and stuff, you don't get bullied a lot kind of things. So now I enjoy boxing, but it was [00:03:00] never really a passion of mine. I was, I was, I was made to box really. It was only when I think I was about the age of 18. I watched Frankie Gavin when he was a calf in the UK, it was the first amateur ever.

[00:03:12] I mean, she will champion from our country. And I watched him do up for great Britain and it's just like, Oh my God. Or that I wanted to fight for great Britain. That was my ultimate goal. So then, then it became a bit of an obsession and I always enjoy boxing, but then I lost every cent of opposite to not age onwards.

[00:03:31] And yeah, I recite these 26 from my, from the amateur sports and then Tim professional about a year and a half later.

[00:03:39] Carl Lanore: [00:03:39] So. Did you, did you always dream of becoming a professional boxer? I mean, at that point in time, or did you, was it, did you think it was just way too far out of reach, you were just going to be a, a Hammond Hager as they like to

[00:03:50] Nathan Heaney: [00:03:50] call it?

[00:03:51] Let me see my texts. You've all, all the way through the amateurs for the age of 18 was I wants to clean it and also tell me ships, which are [00:04:00] held once a year in the UK. But because the goal was to win the us is how many ships and they get signed by one of the, one of the biggest promoters when the world was hit at the time was fine quarter.

[00:04:10] Now, unfortunately, another woman actually also did well in the nationals, but I never went. So as far as I was concerned, I was never really going to say professional, because if you're not with one of the big promoters, you have to do it the hard way you have to. Um, smaller shows every since based on ticket sales, she has to, if you don't sell any tickets for promoters, not going to get you on because you're not making them any money.

[00:04:32] And so it always really put me off, but then I saw a few local fighters, well, low cost. Probably within the a hundred mile radius where I am, right. Don't re don't really well in the professional game and not be in that. I mean, just I'd beat him in the past softball hold, let me save one, a British title.

[00:04:50] One of them would have willed style. What could, what could I do and what I regret not sending over. So I did send over in the end, um, in [00:05:00] 2007, 2017. And I did, I asked from the odd way I was with a local promoter. Harold Johnson and yeah. And steadily grow and says something amazing. And to say,

[00:05:11] Carl Lanore: [00:05:11] yeah, so, uh, Liam proud man says, Nathan is a Stokey.

[00:05:18] Nathan Heaney: [00:05:18] I almost,

[00:05:19] Carl Lanore: [00:05:19] I love it. Yeah. You got a lot of fans here. Get in ducky. You got a lot of fans watching the show right now. That's good. So. Who, who were you? Who inspired you the most when you were young? Who did you look to? What boxers did you look at? And think, you know, I, I admire his style. I admire his character.

[00:05:38] I admire how he handles himself.

[00:05:41] Nathan Heaney: [00:05:41] Uh, the first type of person I can ever remember admiring and stuff was Prince's team. I don't know if you've ever heard of Princeton. He was a massive for, it was a away to the inside will feather featherweights. So really lights. He was knocking at eight. He was knocking everyone else.

[00:05:57] What was. What was amazing about summits. [00:06:00] He captured the imagination of the audience EGD when made millions, millions of pounds. When Phi is it that way class wouldn't really consider that, that major Dale. Um, but, but yeah, so, but what's funny enough, a Prince the same as well. He was  at a very glamorous, big agencies and people loved him for that.

[00:06:21] And now obviously  with Delilah and we're cool, but then growing up inside joke how's are you using the UK, but more recently as someone called Canadia gloss, kin and Julio, Sage Fest, sr. You I'm sure you must've learned it through the

[00:06:43] and all the Leonard, all the great fighters from the area from  who've been big inspirations of mine. Do

[00:06:52] Carl Lanore: [00:06:52] you, do you think you'll come to the U S and fight? Cause I know you, you just picked up, you were just picked up by a new promoter that actually is kind of [00:07:00] giving you more opportunities moving forward.

[00:07:02] Who's the new promoter that's picked you up recently.

[00:07:05] Nathan Heaney: [00:07:05] Yeah. So Frank Warren of Queensland  take me off. And yet, I mean, the goal of any fighter is boxing America. Cause that's sort of like the macro boxing. Although I would say the UK is becoming the macro boxing with Wembley and so on. Cause atmospheres is so whatever, but for me, my goal with Frank  and we said he's for all stadium, that would be the, the main, the major goal.

[00:07:33] And then, but to do any of that. So finally American's fights in India, hometown football stadium. It's the amount of all work and vice you've got to win. I've just got to keep winning essentially. So when you say it's a dream that could potentially happen, which is going to be hard.

[00:07:48] Carl Lanore: [00:07:48] Yeah. But it's not something that if you didn't do you'll feel that your career has been any less valid.

[00:07:53] Nathan Heaney: [00:07:53] No, no, no, no. That's good. It just gives me a focus to work on both, but I've also got to realize. [00:08:00] Did they set up at a POS every single time? Well, that means nothing really. Right,

[00:08:05] Carl Lanore: [00:08:05] right. Um, so your current record is undefeated. You've had, you've had 30% of your, your wins by knockout. Yeah. So are you someone who looks for the knockout in a fight or do you just kind of go in there and up the jaw presents a top opportunity?

[00:08:23] You'll take it.

[00:08:24] Nathan Heaney: [00:08:24] Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a destructive kind of seek in the story kind of guy, but for me record, doesn't suggest the punches all is out there because people look at it and think I've only not three hours, 10 hours. So commonly Punchbowl, the opponents of art have been really, really good. I think that's why show professionals while in mine, so many spores go it's because the fireman variants saying I haven't been given just some.

[00:08:49] Why wash the opponents. I'm just going to walk over where some, some fives do. I've thought they are very easy fights and you can essentially create a potty record that makes them absolutely [00:09:00] destroyed destroyers until we step up to that next level.

[00:09:02] Carl Lanore: [00:09:02] Yeah. And then they get stopped.

[00:09:06] Nathan Heaney: [00:09:06] I'm looking it up in guided I think even harder fights.

[00:09:09] So when I do step up again, I hope that I'd be ready for it.

[00:09:15] Carl Lanore: [00:09:15] So, so Mike Tyson, uh, uh, uh, credits, custom motto as being the reason he is not just the champion fighter, he was, but th th th the way he even approaches life in general, do you have, uh, someone who trained you that you feel that way about?

[00:09:33] Nathan Heaney: [00:09:33] Yeah.

[00:09:33] It's funny you say that Chris customer from obviously the salary is your results are very philosophical. His philosophy on stuff is very, very good. A lot morals about him. Um, and yeah, my coach, Steve would find, uh, Oh, uh, boxing club is it's very fast. It's a great man. Works very hard in all aspects of his life.

[00:09:54] It cares fires like nothing else. And Yancy speak exchanges.

[00:10:02] [00:10:00] assuming, like you said, he's a great, great bloke. And we work really well together.

[00:10:06] Carl Lanore: [00:10:06] Maybe it's even better that he's not a father figure. You know what I mean? That he's a, he's more of a. Slightly, you know, lateral or, or slightly superior, because that makes you feel like that's attainable sometimes too.

[00:10:18] Nathan Heaney: [00:10:18] Yeah, massively. I mean, I've had a father, my dad must be coached back in the day. And in father, son relationships don't really work that well when it comes to high level scores because there's too many opinions and, and stuff. So, whereas Stevie, you know, he knows what he knows. He knows what I'm about.

[00:10:34] Seniors, seniors, remittances, and yeah. But, but, but not only that it's like, yeah, So it's all your, all you are is how you are as a person as well. And I think he's got great models that he puts into embassy. We want to be sizes every single one.

[00:10:49] Carl Lanore: [00:10:49] And is your dad proud? I mean, since he was the one who wanted you to start by?

[00:10:53] Nathan Heaney: [00:10:53] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my dad was very proud. Like he either yeah. You mean that [00:11:00] did everything for me growing up and stuff, something, yeah. He's very proud of all of them,

[00:11:03] Carl Lanore: [00:11:03] you know, that there's an overwhelming number of people. Who obviously, uh, watching you right now from stoke, because they're all like, he's one of our own, he's one of our own.

[00:11:13] Yeah. I mean, the outpouring of love, the outpouring of love is, and support is amazing. So do you feel that around town, when you walk around the streets, you see people that see you and

[00:11:24] Nathan Heaney: [00:11:24] well, I, well, at this moment in time, we're in a lockdown with restrictions with obviously COVID, but it's amazing. I used to see all my guys to the ground at the football ground associates.

[00:11:36] It's just, and that's one thing I miss about the four. I miss the football, the scoring in, I miss seeing everyone and just bump it into the ground and just speaking to them just because obviously they follow me and support me in the boxing bot. I know them all outside of boxes as well, like on Facebook and stuff.

[00:11:52] I see them all the time. So I've been able to keep engaged in that way, but they're amazing. Amazing people. It's amazing.

[00:12:00] [00:11:59] Carl Lanore: [00:11:59] So, do you have a plan for staying grounded or? I have a funny feeling, all these people that are commenting that obviously love you. They're going to keep you grounded as long as you keep in touch with them.

[00:12:12] But a lot of are you, are you going to say you have a plan to stay grounded? Like the, you know, we're talking about this now, if you keep going on the trajectory, you're going. I mean, you're, you're going to be a champion someday. How do you stay grounded? How do you stay grounded?

[00:12:26] Nathan Heaney: [00:12:26] Well, I've got spreadsheets of every single person that's ever come watch me fives the first five.

[00:12:32] So my last one you asked, I'll put their name down. So I've got a, I've got a whole, like in the last five, there was, I just show available to people that tickets off me personally, but I've got the name, every single one of the names written down on the spreadsheet, because I just, I know who was there from the start to the end.

[00:12:48] And some people depends. Oh, I think from of FYS, I would say. 95% of people that rent my third fights have gone to every single Fise open some [00:13:00] last one. It's incredibly honestly, it's incredible. I, I can't even say why. Why, why they follow me in softball? There's no, there's no word. There's no issues with seeing grounded mates when it comes to my coach, Steve, I mean, I'm grounded.

[00:13:13] Like didn't we meet up Romeo? Well, But yeah, that's, that's the whole game. You should always be grounded. Always.

[00:13:20] Carl Lanore: [00:13:20] Let's talk about your training now, because obviously that's kind of where you and I intersected. Right? You started listening to the show and, and different topics we talked about. And I know that you tried to integrate some of this stuff into your own training and supplementation, obviously supplementation for you is a very, very, uh, specific line.

[00:13:38] There are certain things you can use or certain things you can't. Um, yeah. So aside from boxing itself, the specific training road work, you know, hitting the bags, jumping rope. Do you do anything that other boxes don't do? Do you deadlift? Do you, you know,

[00:13:56] Nathan Heaney: [00:13:56] yeah. Yeah. I think my strengths are the basic four body [00:14:00] and strength training twice a week.

[00:14:02] If I was always seasoned, I had an, a fast, probably pick up to three times a week, but yet it's just so on the one day I'll do my squat and over press. And it chip wait and shut up. And then some accessory movements. Then the following, the elderly deadlift will trap bar deadlift, a horizontal press, and then probably a horizontal rope or some kind of polling variation.

[00:14:24] I don't need to work. I mean, I don't need to grow my  song. There's no weaknesses. I, so I I'm, I've been pretty, I did different stream myself and I think a lot of boxes the last 10 years of all this research training. It's been a bit of obsession, really? I've calmed down a little bit. Now, the more I thought about yourself, the more you've learned, the more you realize you don't, it needs to know that when stuff, it goes back to the basics, really.

[00:14:52] And, uh, and then that's pretty much when it first, ever since I did the magic bullet that the magic supplement and so on. And then you realize that [00:15:00] it all goes back to the basics. And if you just make sure you progressively overload the time and you need to stay on ingest. And you listen to small people like yourself.

[00:15:09] Another mentor of mine is Joel Jamieson. He's been in East, but he's changed the game over the last 10 years because we've seen how high intense the incidence rate. It was all the rage 10 years ago. And that's all I did myself, but so many sounds still gas AUSA when in just the three round fights, whereas Joel, Jameson brought back.

[00:15:28] How important the aerobic side of the equation is. So we're talking about mix. Some of that mix,

[00:15:34] Carl Lanore: [00:15:34] Joel was on this show probably in 2009 or 2010, when he first started doing the heart rate variability stuff. And I had him on the show and we talked about it, but it's amazing. You know, there's two types of, um, people in, in our world who tend to be the ones we turn to for information.

[00:15:57] There's the people who come up with a plan and an idea, [00:16:00] and that's all they ever do for the rest of their lives. They just dig their heels in. And then there are people who evolve over time where they go, Oh, well maybe I wasn't. So right about that. And the differences one sees themselves as a guru and the other one sees himself as a perpetual student.

[00:16:18] You know, I I've changed my opinion about so many things over the years because I found out that when I applied this stuff, it just wasn't, it would just wasn't right. And, and Joel was, yeah, one of those guys, Joel, is his he's evolved. He's grown, he's changed his opinions and, and, and he has grown from where he was before.

[00:16:37] I have a lot of appreciation for that.

[00:16:39] Nathan Heaney: [00:16:39] Muscle solely agree. And that's the only, so people just look in the waist as well. And if, and if they do sort of acknowledged that they were wrong, they feel like that makes them less than incredible. But I think it makes them more credible facts that might you say the change and they move with the times and if they see you somewhere, then they'll, then they'll manage [00:17:00] from.

[00:17:00] Carl Lanore: [00:17:00] So I have this several people have put this up and it's spelled G O a R M N. Gorman. What does that mean?

[00:17:09] Nathan Heaney: [00:17:09] That they'll go off the st. GLAAD.

[00:17:11] Carl Lanore: [00:17:11] Oh, go arm, man. Go on, man. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I was like, Oh yeah, 

[00:17:18] Nathan Heaney: [00:17:18] a prop proper. So that proper is approximately it's been so virtually, I don't think he seen tsunami fights since he found out that a box and yeah, he's one of those tough

[00:17:29] There's a little town me and when I left cold stone and they're all from their proper. So as I fish Steve Goodwin, but he cared, these moves to Turk, you know, so yeah, th they're old, but yeah, they're just basically go on, but like, go on.

[00:17:43] Carl Lanore: [00:17:43] Okay. So, so yeah, you know, I don't, I I'm trying to figure out what it was.

[00:17:47] It was like Gorman. Okay. Maybe he's like a Bishop, Bishop Gorman. Is there something? No, but you know, you're going to have to come back and watch this video later. Because the outpouring of love for you, uh, from people like Jason [00:18:00] Felton, he keeps commenting about, you know, just nothing but positive things.

[00:18:03] It's just, you're going to have to come back and watch this again. Dan. You, it says our champ.

[00:18:08] Nathan Heaney: [00:18:08] Yeah. He's one of, one of my best friends down here is, and I've seen him in other one as well. Alex Foundry pops up. Jason, Jason, Jason. They're basically when I go to this soak, see. Is right there. He sits right.

[00:18:19] Basically, well assets as well. And Casa was, I think it was yeah. Costumes there. She stood there laughing that spot.

[00:18:25] Carl Lanore: [00:18:25] No, I was going to say, I don't think, I don't think he knows that we played the song at the beginning of the show. Maybe he was here or not, but yeah. Well I have it in, I have it in the bumpers here.

[00:18:35] I have it in the bumpers. When we come back from the first break, I actually have a part of this song in this, so they'll hear it. So, um, so how, how about sleep? How important is sleep to you?

[00:18:46] Nathan Heaney: [00:18:46] It's funny. You say that, you know, that's the one area. If everything I've neglected, like massively up until recently opened.

[00:18:54] So recently I am, cause I know yourself you've quit coffee or tea essentially, [00:19:00] then come back on and so on. I, funnily enough, the same time when you quit, I also quit coffee, but it made zero difference me, but

[00:19:09] Carl Lanore: [00:19:09] it makes zero difference in your sleep.

[00:19:11] Nathan Heaney: [00:19:11] And my sleep may not so much sleep. I was more miserable.

[00:19:16] In the day and I manage the levels, just nothing changed. And I think that I did that for just over three weeks. Um, and then I went back to caffeine cause I saw I'm not stabilized. I enjoy coffee

[00:19:27] Carl Lanore: [00:19:27] too much. So what is we, you and I could talk about this off, off the air, but are you, do you fall asleep easily and wake up in the middle of the night?

[00:19:38] Nathan Heaney: [00:19:38] No, no. I never wake up in the middle of the night, but what my issue was sleepers are just calling me from it too much. So we're going to be friends too much tonight. Somebody sent me just switching off and going to sleep. Whereas the last week I've used the sleeping up, put it on my bed. Um, and it has like a little quarter thing as well.

[00:19:57] So I can hear any noises in the airplane, [00:20:00] airplane mode, airplane mode, put it aside. But what it did though, is, is there was one night when I had the recording and I'm and I'm snoring. And then the sound just disappears. It's like, I'm not breathing. And I've gotten quite a few times, quite, quite a lot, as I said, some miss is after you want to stop breathing, let me sleep.

[00:20:20] And she just, she couldn't sell. But then on the, on the sleep app, you could see all these spikes where I've been moving.

[00:20:27] Carl Lanore: [00:20:27] Yeah. You're restless, restless. Well,

[00:20:30] Nathan Heaney: [00:20:30] it was for all the spikes. So all there was, and this nasal thing put up there, uh, elevating me pillows. And then the last, I'd say five nights about amazing sleep.

[00:20:40] And I do feel good. I feel really

[00:20:42] Carl Lanore: [00:20:42] good. So do you think that it was the elevating, the pillows, so you're not snoring? Yeah. Any, any snoring is disrupting your sleep. And we've talked about that on the show for years, that even if you slow snore, mildly, your body is still sensing the vibration in your brain and it's, [00:21:00] and you're, you're not sleeping well, so that's good.

[00:21:02] So you've got a handle on that now.

[00:21:03] Nathan Heaney: [00:21:03] Yeah. And it's funny because today I had eight hours sleep and I thought, I didn't feel nowhere near as good as when I ate an off night. I was asleep. So I knew about a bit earlier. So that's made a massive, massive difference. So real I've seen speed consistent with it,

[00:21:19] Carl Lanore: [00:21:19] but getting off the phone.

[00:21:20] So, so there is research that shows that being on your cell phone a half hour before going to sleep. Pushes back a deep sleep latency by almost an hour, which robs you of that deep sleep.  the frequencies from your phone actually agitate the brain. They do. We know this as it has been shown in science. So blue-blocking sunglasses.

[00:21:44] You, you have a pair of blue blockers.

[00:21:46] Nathan Heaney: [00:21:46] I know what I did on the phone. I do use, but it doesn't have the blocks out. The blue lights. Jimmy makes your phone yellow,

[00:21:53] Carl Lanore: [00:21:53] but no, no, but the view, your blue blocking glasses takes the blue out of all the light in the house. So in other words, [00:22:00] and that tells the brain it's nighttime and you get your new, if you put your blue blockers on at nine at 7:00 PM, you'll be asleep by 9:00 PM because you'll feel tired and staying off the cell phone and anything with wifi, I, you know, mean Nathan, I'm going to a little bit of an extremist.

[00:22:15] I unplugged the cordless phone. Based station. I am plug our router at night. I just don't want all that excess RF in my environment and it does make a difference. So anyway, we're going to take a quick commercial break. When we come back, we've got lots more questions. Also, those of you who were making comments.

[00:22:34] Uh, feel free to ask questions. If you want some answers, uh, from Nathan Heeney, we'll be right back with more superhuman radio, stay tuned.

[00:22:54] I thought that would be a nice, I thought that would be a nice touch. You know,

[00:22:57] Nathan Heaney: [00:22:57] that'd be good, honestly, call you if you were [00:23:00] ever fights, but the atmosphere is incredible. It's amazing. Amazing.

[00:23:05] Carl Lanore: [00:23:05] I would like to come. I think some of your friends are making fun of me because they, they realize, I don't know, I don't, uh, translate the, uh, the local vernacular.

[00:23:16] So Dave Morgan says, ask him, say, cost, kick about a bow again. Whoa. What does that mean? Oh, so,

[00:23:27] Nathan Heaney: [00:23:27] so constraints were known as the possibilities. So all parties were made here. Use always a massive industry circumstance, and it's basically a dialect, like an old school daylights from Stoke-on-Trent. So cos Gigabot against the world.

[00:23:42] It's basically like, can you kick a ball against the wall? Ah, okay. Okay.

[00:23:47] Carl Lanore: [00:23:47] Yeah. You know, I'm, I'm from Brooklyn. We're accused of having our own, uh, our own language too, but I want to get all of these up there because, uh, these, this is just an outpouring. So Leslie Webb [00:24:00] says, um, Oh no, no. Th th th there was another one I want somebody said that you're the hardest puncher in that way in your weight class.

[00:24:09] I am trying to find it now. I can't find it. Is that true?

[00:24:14] Nathan Heaney: [00:24:14] I can punch off. I think they believe, Oh yeah. When we want to be . So it's one of the biggest punch in the movie division. Yeah, I'd say I can punch really pretty yard when I'm in a whole bunch of division. I don't think the record suggests that boss.

[00:24:34] I can put you out so I can put you in a harness to knock people out.

[00:24:38] Carl Lanore: [00:24:38] If you, if you break, if you break down your punch, how much of it is from your back and your hips?

[00:24:45] Nathan Heaney: [00:24:45] Probably I'd probably say 70% of it. Right. And that's one thing that I'm doing recently. I did, I was short shoulder injury, which  focusing predominantly on my back now, a lot police.

[00:25:00] [00:25:00] And I'm just thinking that I think transparency's a harder punch. So she got stable basis transfer all the power through.

[00:25:08] Carl Lanore: [00:25:08] Yeah, because if you throw a punch and it's just your arm, that's doing the moving. There's not a copy on it, but if you, if you, if your arm becomes more like a jousting, you know, uh, rod and your back is doing the pushing.

[00:25:23] Now you have all the weight of your body behind that punch. It's a very, very different thing.

[00:25:27] Nathan Heaney: [00:25:27] Yeah, it's the unconscious is definitely a full body movements. I mean, I swap, I do swap book. Those have really helped me in boxing because the foot movements so small, really nice men mentally. It's nice to know that you're strong.

[00:25:39] So that's why I still do it well.

[00:25:41] Carl Lanore: [00:25:41] Well, and what the, what the squat, what the squat will help you with is if you're down underneath somebody and you're punching up with it, you know what I mean? Cause a lot of guys bobbed down and come up with the punch, then you're going to have a lot more force in it.

[00:25:53] If you're somebody who's squatting four plates for instance, or something like that.

[00:25:56] Nathan Heaney: [00:25:56] Yeah, definitely.

[00:25:57] Carl Lanore: [00:25:57] Who was this? Who was your [00:26:00] toughest opponent so far? My

[00:26:01] Nathan Heaney: [00:26:01] top, his opponents, um, was a, Jen's called Tom Stokes from, but it's called West Brom, which is probably about 60 miles from soak 45 miles, something like that.

[00:26:14] And yeah, that was, that was for my first set of tile. So I'll find for the Midlands area itself, this is like the . Um, and yeah, we boxed them over 10 rounds, usually very, very soft

[00:26:25] Carl Lanore: [00:26:25] 10 rounds. 10, three minute rounds.

[00:26:28] Nathan Heaney: [00:26:28] Yeah. 10, three minute rounds. Yeah. Yeah, so, and it was, uh, it was, uh, it was a proper fights as well.

[00:26:34] First one was even second round. I hurt him really badly. Third round. I hurt him badly fourth round. He hurt me, but then when I was a bit wobbly, uh, but, and then, but then that's took over after that, after I sat down and drawn for Steve, my coach, give me a good boss kick in, say I'm not doing what he's telling me to do.

[00:26:53] And then we got back into the game plan and yeah, there's been spent some good. It depends some good fun. I mean the hardest stuff in hits [00:27:00] is by a guy called Serge Obama. It was, I think that was my eight fights. He boxed in the 2012 Olympics, but, uh, Cameron, she was a total of five. Somebody called me on the, on the back of the ear and I I've never heard that the same happy bell rung.

[00:27:16] I'm sure you have,

[00:27:17] Carl Lanore: [00:27:17] of course your years roll foot.

[00:27:19] Nathan Heaney: [00:27:19] Well, for the first time ever. I actually understand why they call it, having your power on because you're

[00:27:26] Carl Lanore: [00:27:26] right.

[00:27:27] Nathan Heaney: [00:27:27] And that, and that lasted for about three rounds. It lasted for a very long time. Even knows this, even though Oh my God. That was, that was said.

[00:27:36] Yeah. That's first. I mean, I've experienced that.

[00:27:39] Carl Lanore: [00:27:39] Yeah. I got my bell rung a couple of times in life and I know six punches a second. Have you upped? That? Yes, Leslie.

[00:27:46] Nathan Heaney: [00:27:46] I've been more than six months. Just a second. Leslie. I'll be well. And then we'll do six.

[00:27:51] Carl Lanore: [00:27:51] You do more than six punches a second. Yeah.

[00:27:54] Nathan Heaney: [00:27:54] If you

[00:27:54] Carl Lanore: [00:27:54] going to hear in quick.

[00:27:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you do a lot of speed bag? Excuse me, speed. Bear work.

[00:28:00] [00:28:00] Nathan Heaney: [00:28:00] No, not really. No. The reason is because it's a great, it looks cool on video and stuff, but the thing really, I don't think it has any real application Suboxone. I just don't like just it. Yeah, it looks cool. Well, I don't think it an application Suboxone.

[00:28:17] It's certainly some it

[00:28:18] Carl Lanore: [00:28:18] now, the other thing that does have application is that round ball that's suspended from the two bands that kind of moves

[00:28:24] Nathan Heaney: [00:28:24] around. Yeah.

[00:28:25] Carl Lanore: [00:28:25] Because if you're following, if you're following a guy's jaw, you know, if you've hit him once and he's going this way and you want to hit him again, you gotta be able to.

[00:28:33] Nathan Heaney: [00:28:33] Yeah. Well, the speed of the ball moves, the harder you hits it, the faster to go. So you gotta use your, your reaction times to capture in. Yes, they're very good. Yeah.

[00:28:42] Carl Lanore: [00:28:42] So Liam says you, you got a dub on war zone, so you could sleep at night. What is, what is that? I mean,

[00:28:49] Nathan Heaney: [00:28:49] basically we played the steam. Cool, cool.

[00:28:51] As you, you will turn

[00:28:53] Carl Lanore: [00:28:53] PlayStation video game at

[00:28:55] Nathan Heaney: [00:28:55] an adult video game and the dope means a win because, because you were [00:29:00] so poor at the game, we lose all the time. So I'll lose sleep at nights as a result. So

[00:29:08] Carl Lanore: [00:29:08] Matt, Matthew Cotton, I like all of your comments, but this is a bad one. Red wine will help you sleep.

[00:29:13] It doesn't so red wine will make you pass out, but you're really not sleeping. No, no, no. A lot of people say, Oh, I drink a glass of red wine at night and I go right to sleep, but they don't sleep well. They wake up in the morning and they don't go, Oh, I feel great. They still feel like crap in the morning when they wake up.

[00:29:32] Um, Drinking alcohol disrupts, uh, the normal rhythm of sleep. And it actually leads to a lot of problems, but some people feel that it makes them fall asleep. And the reason it makes them fall asleep is because it's the exact opposite of caffeine. So caffeine reducing the accumulation of a dentist's scene in the brain.

[00:29:54] Adenosine is what causes sleep pressure. As you work, you break down [00:30:00] creatine. Into a dentist scene and the adenosine accumulates in the brain. And once the adenosine is accumulated enough, you body wants to go to sleep well, alcohol increases the effects of adenosine on the brain, but then when it wears off, you wake up in the middle of the night, unless you drink so much that you stay passed out for the whole night.

[00:30:23] So if

[00:30:24] Nathan Heaney: [00:30:24] that's the case called half or so contentious to be awake at night because you live with your drink, we lost,

[00:30:28] Carl Lanore: [00:30:28] we lost. Oh, I know. I know. I know. I mean, everybody does. We love to drink here in the United States, too. It's not, it's not an exclusively a UK, uh, type of a thing. I mean, everybody likes to drink, but I look, I love to drink.

[00:30:43] I mean, and when I do drink, I drink excessively. Uh, and that's why I take DHM dihydro. Mirasol tan. Gets the alcohol out of your system faster so I can pour it on. And then I take a couple before bed and I wake up in the morning. I feel fine, but I [00:31:00] don't lie to myself and say to myself, well, alcohol is

[00:31:02] Nathan Heaney: [00:31:02] good.

[00:31:03] Carl Lanore: [00:31:03] No, it's not. If it's good for you to give it to your babies and your puppies, you won't do that because it's not good for them either. Let's see here we have so much here. What date is your next fight? What day did you Tony? Tony Maddix. Maddix wants to know that.

[00:31:18] Nathan Heaney: [00:31:18] I can't announce me that yet, but very, very, very, very soon I'll be able to announce it, but he sure it will be before the end of the year, but we just got to just a few more details.

[00:31:28] Maybe shorts that out, someone starts happening. I can announce it, but I can announce it officially on there yet. Mates,

[00:31:33] Carl Lanore: [00:31:33] when are

[00:31:36] Nathan Heaney: [00:31:36] the own

[00:31:36] Carl Lanore: [00:31:36] ORM is taking amateurs again?

[00:31:39] Nathan Heaney: [00:31:39] Yeah. Yeah. Brandon. So basically with, with COVID, um, it's sports as a whole, it's been shut down. So in this moment in time, And then we'll see if we can put things in place to make you so people can socially distance and so on.

[00:31:53] So it's so close. And so obviously things change after December, but obviously you [00:32:00] can sell my sister even not and get some tips and I'll strain, but yet that we won't be open for a bit.

[00:32:06] Carl Lanore: [00:32:06] He's stoked. So what do you expect? Uh, I want to come to stoke because it's sounds like a really great book.

[00:32:14] Nathan Heaney: [00:32:14] It's a great, it's a great place, but even it's not even the place, it's the pupil, but it's the people you can see.

[00:32:22] You can see. Yeah, the amount of the God, they're amazing people. And with some of the families, people around as well. So that's a great thing. So it's tapped for the services.

[00:32:32] Carl Lanore: [00:32:32] This is my nephew, Timmy Profumo. He says every show gets more and more interesting that's because the guests are interesting. It's not because of me.

[00:32:39] Trust me on

[00:32:39] Nathan Heaney: [00:32:39] that. You do great things, slowly integrate things on it.

[00:32:42] Carl Lanore: [00:32:42] You have any favorite supplements? Do you take creatine?

[00:32:45] Nathan Heaney: [00:32:45] I don't say crazy. And the only reason I have in the past, but it didn't like the more, market-facing like three gums that say just because the waterway that, so I've never really felt some major benefit from it.

[00:32:58] Something more recently up [00:33:00] it's up, which I haven't done for a very long time. It speeds up pizza or beta alanine.

[00:33:04] Carl Lanore: [00:33:04] Yeah. I was just going to mention that to you.

[00:33:06] Nathan Heaney: [00:33:06] Yeah. Now again, Not never. I never really found a benefit from it. I wish the placebo effects where it's for me. I wish he did, but he just doesn't.

[00:33:15] But back in the day, he never really would. It's more recently I've I've probably six years ago. I tried that maybe longer, but now I'm back on it. I'd say five gums in the morning and five gums at night.

[00:33:26] Carl Lanore: [00:33:26] Wow. Beta beta alanine. Do you get, you get itchy?

[00:33:31] Nathan Heaney: [00:33:31] Slightly. Yeah, just doesn't because people used to complain about the, the tingling and the itchiness.

[00:33:38] Now, once you grab those, I feel absolutely nothing. If I say five gums, then I'll feel assault, feeling a little bit.

[00:33:46] Carl Lanore: [00:33:46] The problem with beta alanine is it literally takes a month before you even start to notice anything because you have to accumulate that muscle carnosine and it takes a while. Um, and really.

[00:34:00] [00:34:00] You have the ability to slow things down if you want to, you know what I mean? And you know, like, like, like the, the Korean speed skating team back in 2000 and maybe seven or so when they, they had, they won eight gold medals. They were all using beta alanine for a sport like that long sprints, beta alanine pays off.

[00:34:25] But for what you do, I don't know that it would really pay off.

[00:34:28] Nathan Heaney: [00:34:28] I, I think it would. I think just for the fact that there's a lot of explosive, as you said, mixed between a lot of explosive stuff and then corporate off that it's just, it's how much you can offend the fights that those are the best is the one that doesn't put yourself in a hole too deep when they go in, in that fight.

[00:34:44] If I can get off the soul around six and fresh, and then that then the opponents, because I mean, if supplements were amazing, they wouldn't be, they wouldn't be allowed anyway to be bond. So they make small [00:35:00] differences, but when you, when you get into the high level, they were small differences can make a difference.

[00:35:04] So that's why the report. Yeah. And then the other one is probably from a recommendation from yourself. It's just before bed ELA, three grams of glycine. And so, yeah, but I'm certain the beat around mine and glycine competes on the same sets is I'm not too sure. So what I do is I say beat round line earlier, which is why I was asked to drinking in that.

[00:35:24] So. Yeah, three. I would say, tell that I'm in classroom before bed. It, they're not competing with each other.

[00:35:31] Carl Lanore: [00:35:31] So for fatigue, your, your corner man should have essential amino acids in your water. Is that illegal?

[00:35:41] Nathan Heaney: [00:35:41] Eh, none of it's not legal, but I do have them before the party,

[00:35:44] Carl Lanore: [00:35:44] but you shouldn't have them. You should use them, you should use them, whatever.

[00:35:47] So I know you spit. Do you drink in between rounds?

[00:35:53] Nathan Heaney: [00:35:53] You understand that? Right?

[00:35:55] Carl Lanore: [00:35:55] I have essential amino acids in there because the leucine, uh, [00:36:00] blocks the serotonin receptor in the brain and it keeps fatigue from coming on. Yeah. So that's a big one. If you had, if you had EAs, the other thing is about making weight.

[00:36:09] I don't know if you're familiar with this already and you may be, um, do you know how to use glycerin or glycerol?

[00:36:15] Nathan Heaney: [00:36:15] Yeah. Previously in terms of. If that was more for, to get the fluid

[00:36:22] Carl Lanore: [00:36:22] back on, back on in the, in the muscles.

[00:36:24] Nathan Heaney: [00:36:24] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it, I think it was a Tim Ferriss book. That's what I finished read about it.

[00:36:29] And then obviously, yeah, so I use glycine, I used to use that a lot in the 

[00:36:36] Carl Lanore: [00:36:36] glycerin, glycerin right

[00:36:38] Nathan Heaney: [00:36:38] there. The ingredient used for Kate . Right. So, yeah, so I usually just go to the local shop and now I have the ingredients, but it was usually the next side within the electric trucks and all that kind of stuff.

[00:36:48] So let's just pull that into the war, into the right ratio and then. Yeah.

[00:36:53] Carl Lanore: [00:36:53] So, so when you get up, when you wake in the middle of the night, do you ever get up to pee in the middle of the night? A lot? [00:37:00] No. Okay, good. So any, any of your friends listening to the show? If you get up to pee three or four times a night and you don't have prostate problems about a teaspoon full of glycerin in a glass of water and drink it right before bed and you won't wake up and pee in the middle of the night.

[00:37:19] Because it keeps the, it

[00:37:20] Nathan Heaney: [00:37:20] keeps,

[00:37:22] Carl Lanore: [00:37:22] keeps the fluid in your muscles all night long, and it doesn't go into your bladder and you don't have to pay. We're going to take a quick commercial break. We'll have more with Nathan Hitman, Heaney, and just a moment state

[00:37:39] I watched that video when you came out on stage and the whole audience was singing. This

[00:37:44] Nathan Heaney: [00:37:44] it's amazing.

[00:37:48] Carl Lanore: [00:37:48] It was your, it was your promo video that I watched on YouTube. Okay.

[00:37:52] Nathan Heaney: [00:37:52] Yeah. You said yes, it's great. It's great. Make sure I'm jealous. Listening to the, to the, to the audio. And now we're not calling up any crowds it's from [00:38:00] inside, but next year we'll say the place over, we will take over.

[00:38:05] Carl Lanore: [00:38:05] So here's some more, uh, translation I need. Okay. Op Nate, Nate lad AUP up AI AI up.

[00:38:12] Nathan Heaney: [00:38:12] So Doug, you said one of the last two, not it's like a mess off kind of a page for men, but basically a op is a doc is like, hello? Hey yo. Hey yo. Oh we good?

[00:38:27] Carl Lanore: [00:38:27] Hi, I'm Matthew Cotton. Again, very, very strong feelings. Best fighter so far.

[00:38:33] Um, Leslie Webb agreed with you. Uh, I thought Nathan's most accomplished performance was against surge and Bhamo and it needed to be.

[00:38:43] Nathan Heaney: [00:38:43] Yeah, so that, that was a former Olympian. The one that had my bowel room, it was very, very tough moving, but I would say came, just see him in Canada. Also not get, cause she was very, very dangerous, very strong.

[00:38:57] She's very tactical, like fibers.

[00:38:58] Carl Lanore: [00:38:58] My nephew says [00:39:00] he never watches. Middleweights. But he loved watching Javante Davis. What's the difference between a small, the smaller guys training and middleweights

[00:39:11] Nathan Heaney: [00:39:11] the training is the same real or true. There's no real difference. The only difference is see lots of weight off the, the, the, the heavyweights off and vice versa.

[00:39:22] The heavyweights I'll have the speed. That lots of weeks though. But do you want a Dave Davis is a brutal puncher and he actually knocked out, um, was it Santa Cruz? I think it was, he knocks on screws out the other day, like completely nuts, all. So he's very exciting. Very exciting.

[00:39:38] Carl Lanore: [00:39:38] Lorraine called her has a remedy for your sleep problems.

[00:39:40] Lots of housework will wear you out and make you sleepy.

[00:39:44] Nathan Heaney: [00:39:44] Yeah. Well, I do a bit of housework  she keeps the house nice and small I do is what she does, but

[00:39:53] Carl Lanore: [00:39:53] yeah. Um, you're married right now.

[00:39:57] Nathan Heaney: [00:39:57] I'm engaged in gang. So you [00:40:00] touched on the screen now

[00:40:01] Carl Lanore: [00:40:01] or this? Her Louise Martin.

[00:40:02] Nathan Heaney: [00:40:02] Yeah. Louise.

[00:40:04] Carl Lanore: [00:40:04] Okay. At least I can now put a face with the name of the man I've listened to many.

[00:40:09] Oh, she's talking about me. Yay. You want to forget this face? You want to forget it? If you can't. I try to forget it every morning.

[00:40:18] Nathan Heaney: [00:40:18] W what would happen is cause she lives in Kansas, which has got 230 miles away from where we were the first long distance relationship. And then she moved up to soak to me.

[00:40:27] But when we see the family, we go down there. It's just for our car, Jeremy. So for me, my thing is to sit six . That's what I do. Not, not that American guy.

[00:40:40] Carl Lanore: [00:40:40] Yeah. I know. Right. Look, I don't, I don't like Louise. I don't like my own voice. So I'm in your camp. Don't worry about that

[00:40:48] Nathan Heaney: [00:40:48] then she just didn't appreciate it either for the knowledge.

[00:40:51] Carl Lanore: [00:40:51] That's well, I'm sure she gets things from it that are worthwhile, but she does try watching golf. That'll make you fall asleep. That's the God's honest truth [00:41:00] right there. One of the silliest games in the world, all of that land for a tiny little ball. And it's a couple of little holes. It's a, it's actually an exercise in excess.

[00:41:09] I agree with you and watch out Stokes is coming to America. Well, apparently you've already arrived because you're here right now. I'm on this show. So there you go. Let's I want to get as many of these in as we can before we move on. But my computer is always giving me,

[00:41:25] Nathan Heaney: [00:41:25] there was a saw Dave Morgan proto comments about oat cakes is the supplements that I have 10 of them a day.

[00:41:31] What is it? It's not far. Okay. It's just so delicacy is basically, it's not a cake. It's like a floppy, I can't even explain what it is. So when asked to explain what dental cake is on the comments

[00:41:48] Carl Lanore: [00:41:48] box, it's not a muffin. It's not like a muffin.

[00:41:50] Nathan Heaney: [00:41:50] No, it's not muffled. It's like a flat pancakes like pancake, but not sweets.

[00:41:55] It's floppy into sound grades, but it's amazing. Put bacon beans [00:42:00] and sausage

[00:42:00] Carl Lanore: [00:42:00] on

[00:42:02] Nathan Heaney: [00:42:02] egg.

[00:42:03] Carl Lanore: [00:42:03] It looks like, uh, everything that's gone wrong today. For some reason, the, the electronic gods didn't want me to do this show Nathan. So we got it done. That's for sure. But now, now my mouse isn't working. So I can't even navigate the rest of the comments.

[00:42:16] I'm very sorry about that for everybody. Who's still watching, but anyway, um, so, uh, your fiance is a big fan of yours. I have to believe, right?

[00:42:27] Nathan Heaney: [00:42:27] Yes she is. She's amazing.

[00:42:29] Carl Lanore: [00:42:29] Does she, does she cringe when you get punched?

[00:42:32] Nathan Heaney: [00:42:32] She is. I think the anxiety overload is unreal with us. Like when, when the files from the lead up to the fights.

[00:42:40] And so the fights over the anxiety she goes through is on rail. You'll see videos of her on the sidelines, just remembering she hasn't collapsed yet. But yeah, she, she, she will, she knows how much she means to me, so she would hate to not, and she does worry that you can get her in a boxing ring, but I don't really worry about that [00:43:00] then we are.

[00:43:00] Okay.

[00:43:01] Carl Lanore: [00:43:01] Yeah. And you know what, so how long do you see yourself boxing for what is, what does retirement age for boxing nowadays?

[00:43:09] Nathan Heaney: [00:43:09] What have you, whatever your body allows you to there? I mean, I think, I think so a bit older than what it used to be. I know in MMA people say the Prime's 37 years old, that's when people, but MMA and boxing completely different sports in terms of , it's amazing that the distance are been an amazing book.

[00:43:28] You might be able to get away with longevity because if you're a grappler short lasts a lot longer than reaction time and speed. And whereas. In boxing, that's all you rely on is reaction time and speed. So there's that the clients. Yeah, but I think longevity, you basically, it depends on individual.

[00:43:47] People think I'm older 31, but I'm really not. I'm really not.

[00:43:51] Carl Lanore: [00:43:51] You see, my Tyson is trying to come back and he's got a fight plan, I believe with the, I can't think who, but

[00:43:57] Nathan Heaney: [00:43:57] yeah, we've returned to [00:44:00] jr, but I, I'm not, I'm not interested in what's in the app store. It's just for me. I mean, it's great folks. Get some money and softball.

[00:44:07] They the way past it and the way we passed it, it's just going to be a glorified spa. Really? I think

[00:44:13] Carl Lanore: [00:44:13] it's like, it's like a bunch of old football players getting out there on the Gridiron. They don't move as fast. They don't play as tough. It's almost like you're just, you're watching them euphemistically when they were young and they were warriors, but now they're not, you know?

[00:44:27] Nathan Heaney: [00:44:27] Yeah. And he's like anything when you, when you've seen them in the prime, that's how you want to remember them. Yeah. So,

[00:44:33] Carl Lanore: [00:44:33] yeah, I agree. So here's the dilemma. I can't end the show without just closing the browser because, uh, my mouse just died and it's a brand new battery. So I know it's not that. So I guess, uh, and I can't get to the rest of your questions and I'm very, very

[00:44:50] Nathan Heaney: [00:44:50] sorry.

[00:44:50] So, so I can see the questions on here so I can quickly, I've got some perks. He said, when can we get some fine news? And I, basically some that I'll announce very, very [00:45:00] soon, hopefully by early next week, I should have some confirmation. Um, and then. Have not, I've got people saying it's like a savory pancake for no cake.

[00:45:10] I've already said that. So, yeah.

[00:45:12] Carl Lanore: [00:45:12] But it's like a pancake you said, right?

[00:45:14] Nathan Heaney: [00:45:14] It's like pancake. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just, it's just nice. It's just really nice.

[00:45:19] Carl Lanore: [00:45:19] Yeah. Okay. Um, do we have any other questions that we need to answer since you're running the show now?

[00:45:25] Nathan Heaney: [00:45:25] Huh? Uh, now, uh, so sorry, call, sorry. I'm taking over.

[00:45:29] Um, So Matthew caught him caught. So subletting port Louise, didn't an eight handle in Birmingham away. So basically we went to, um, I boxed my first seven TV show in Birmingham, which is a big state in the UK. And we took four coats floats of soapies, which so 220 soak each one, some four different coaches.

[00:45:52] So it's probably like an hour journey and yeah. And Louis XIV got everyone on the bus, saw their home, our drinks and stuff. She's amazing. [00:46:00] She is amazing.

[00:46:01] Carl Lanore: [00:46:01] Excellent. Excellent. I'm sorry. We had so many technical difficulties today. Um, we almost didn't get the show to start because the computer wouldn't run.

[00:46:09] I guess I have to invest in a new, uh,

[00:46:14] Nathan Heaney: [00:46:14] I've enjoyed Cola. I'm sure all my guys

[00:46:16] Carl Lanore: [00:46:16] have enjoyed it. And you had a great, you have a great turnout. I gotta, I gotta tell you something. Um, the, the fan loyalty and the love they have for you is just overwhelming. I mean, I, we could just do this whole show, reading their comments and questions, risk

[00:46:30] Nathan Heaney: [00:46:30] the good thing.

[00:46:30] This is great. People say, that's what it is. And as they say, I'm one of their own, so they support me. So they're always out of all the way.

[00:46:38] Carl Lanore: [00:46:38] Well, as soon as this COVID thing is over Elisa and I are planning a trip to the UK and we'll make sure we come and visit stoke. I

[00:46:45] Nathan Heaney: [00:46:45] w I, that that'd be amazing. I have to tell you all the pockets, all the places in the UK and stuff will be great.

[00:46:50] If you ever did decide to do that.

[00:46:52] Carl Lanore: [00:46:52] Lisa is a huge fan of, of, uh, British history in general. Like, and, you know, we, we even [00:47:00] subscribed to Britt box. Like I I've watched the original, every episode of the original upstairs, downstairs, and I don't even know if you know, you know what that is, the black and white, the original upstairs.

[00:47:15] Every episode, every season we've watched. So she's a big fan of the UK and we always talk about, we want to go visit and then we actually were planning on, and then there's COVID thing happened, but we will get there and we'll, we'll come visit stoke for sure. We'll make sure we do

[00:47:28] Nathan Heaney: [00:47:28] that. That'd be amazing.

[00:47:30] Carl Lanore: [00:47:30] And we'll go and then we'll, we'll go out and we'll drink.

[00:47:37] I'll I'll I'll bring, uh, I'll bring enough DHM capsules for the entire town. So we'll all wake up feeling good the next morning, too. There

[00:47:44] Nathan Heaney: [00:47:44] would be enough supply call.

[00:47:46] Carl Lanore: [00:47:46] I look, we got to pull the plug because the computer is running on me. And we're going to have to go from here. Thank you so much for being here today.

[00:47:53] Nathan Heaney: [00:47:53] Thank you very much. So thank you to everyone. This watched and commented and you're all. You're all bloody amazing.

[00:47:58] Carl Lanore: [00:47:58] Thank you guys. Thanks to everybody. Thank you.

[00:48:00] [00:47:59] Nathan Heaney: [00:47:59] Thank you all for on call as well. Thank you.

[00:48:01] Carl Lanore: [00:48:01] And I'm going to try to close this screen. Let's see if it works.