[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] hey, Hey, welcome back to another episode of super human radio today, December 8th and it's Tuesday, which means we have the blueprint power hour starting in just a moment. Um, I'm sucking my teeth because I just finished eating some biltong. So good. Uh, before we get started, of course we have to thank our title sponsor and that is legendary foods.

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[00:01:27] Carl Lanore: [00:01:27] Hey Rob, how you doing?

[00:01:29] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:29] I am doing well. Um, as you and I discussed earlier, I got a new phone and so I'm learning the ins and outs of it. Um, but that's the latest with me.

[00:01:39] Carl Lanore: [00:01:39] What's going on with the blueprint bulletin? Are you still running the, um, the special, uh, black Friday special? Is that still going on?

[00:01:48] Coach Rob Regish: [00:01:48] Yeah, we are, um, we decided actually to extend it because it was so many people had come on board. Um, and so many people wrote to say, Hey, I just heard about it [00:02:00] this week. Or, you know, they, they were concerned, otherwise concerned about getting in. Uh, but we're going to keep that open. Uh, at least for another couple of weeks and the deal is this, uh, w we're talking about a Christmas present for you.

[00:02:15] And in my experience, if you want to get something, what you really want for Christmas, don't leave it up to somebody else, get something you really want. So what we're talking about. It was a couple of things. One you're going to get, um, three full months of access to the blueprint bulletin for just $5 a month plus, and this is the really the big one.

[00:02:39] You get immediate access to the entire online library, which is now over a hundred issues in the, you know, if you're asking the question, what is the blueprint, bullet, and picture of the blueprint power hour on steroids. Okay. We talk about a lot of this good stuff. Um, and certainly more than a few things that I [00:03:00] don't talk about on the show, right.

[00:03:02] That I save, uh, for subscribers. So, uh, having said that you can even, you can get a free sample issue, uh, on my website, coach rodriguez.com and, uh, to get that offer the,

[00:03:18] Carl Lanore: [00:03:18] we have a, we have a special link. If you want to take advantage of this offer, you got to go to SHR network.biz/coach Rob, and use code S H R five SHR and the number five.

[00:03:30] Coach Rob Regish: [00:03:30] Right. And so, um, I can confidently state that, uh, when you get your first look at that entire library, I, I think you will agree with me wholeheartedly. It is the single biggest repository of such information on the web, and I'm tremendously proud of it. And I know for a fact, it's going to, it's going to breathe new life into everything that you're doing, uh, especially this stuff.

[00:04:00] [00:03:59] Carl Lanore: [00:03:59] Okay. And now we will get onto business at hand. And the first question that we have to answer comes from Anthony Massaro. He says, I need desperately to gain mass I'm five, 10, and only 150 pounds, but nothing I do has been working even creatine didn't work for me. At what point do you just throw in the towel or at least know that bodybuilding isn't for you?

[00:04:26] Coach Rob Regish: [00:04:26] You know, um, when this question comes up, traditionally, the way I answer it is, you know, okay, you, you know, you think you're eating enough, let's go over that. And almost invariably that's, that's where the problem lies, but I'm going to come at this from a little bit different angle because there are other important reasons why you're not going to be throwing that towel.

[00:04:49] And anytime soon, It is true that not everyone is perhaps born or destined to achieve lifting greatness. In fact, uh, [00:05:00] there was once a, a Canadian born boy. Uh, he was born cross-eyed and with a club foot and with other developmental disabilities and upon seeing him for the first time his father was reported to have said, why don't you just shoot him and put him out of his misery?

[00:05:18] So he wasn't born with all the advantages you and I were. Right? Most people like his father had no expectations of him and certainly not very lofty expectations and his mind, you know, the kid was done before he even started life, except that this kid's name was Doug hepper. Doug heparin was born in September of 1926 and his best recorded lifts were as follows.

[00:05:45] Press off the rack. 450 pounds push press off the rack. 500 pounds, one our military 200 pounds and 37 reps each arm with 120 pounds [00:06:00] to hand barbell curl 260 pounds bench, press 580 pounds squat and deadlift 800 pounds. All of those lifts by the way. We're B we're basically done before steroid use and without wearing all of the, you know, gear, if you will, that you see at powerlifting meets today, he was many, and those lifts were made many of them under contest conditions.

[00:06:28] So they were the genuine article. Um, he was many times. A world champion lifting weights that few people even dream about. So, so the answer of knowing when to throw the towel in is easy. Never, never, you may not be cut out to lift world record weight, but everyone is cut out to get stronger than yesterday.

[00:06:55] I don't know if anybody's ever said that, but I just did. And it's worth remembering, [00:07:00] uh, by the way, a little bit of trivia here, Doug Hepburn didn't die until the year 2000. So he lived the good long life, which is proof positive that gargantuan size and strength can coexist with health. Right. And so whenever you're thinking about throwing the towel in, think about Doug Hepburn.

[00:07:23] Yeah.

[00:07:24] Carl Lanore: [00:07:24] Wait, when did he die? I was just looking online to see when he died.

[00:07:28] Coach Rob Regish: [00:07:28] It's just, it said the year 2000. I don't know that I found an actual date.

[00:07:33] Carl Lanore: [00:07:33] Okay. You, it, yeah, I'm looking at it now died November 22nd, 2000. Wow.

[00:07:37] Coach Rob Regish: [00:07:37] Yeah. So, you know,

[00:07:39] Carl Lanore: [00:07:39] in 1926, he was born a couple years later than my parents. So he was, he was pretty old.

[00:07:48] Coach Rob Regish: [00:07:48] Yeah. I mean, he lived well into his seventies, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um, if my math is right and then it rarely is, but, uh, just an incredible inspiration. If you ever have the time [00:08:00] read about Doug Hepburn's story, you can't help, but be inspired.

[00:08:05] Carl Lanore: [00:08:05] I wonder what was wrong with him that made the doctor or whoever said you shoot him now?

[00:08:10] What, what, what anomaly did he have? I mean, he looked, he had how to be a big baby, cause he's a big human.

[00:08:17] Coach Rob Regish: [00:08:17] Yes, but he was born cross-eyed and I think he had a club foot, a club foot, so to speak and, and all he was written off as a cripple. I'm looking at pictures of future world champion.

[00:08:34] Carl Lanore: [00:08:34] That's amazing.

[00:08:35] That's an amazing story. Really, really amazing. Okay. The next question comes from Wayne. ITOs. He says, I've been listening to you pretty much from day one and continue to learn something new. Every episode is this all you've ever done, because you have a lot of knowledge about almost everything or at least very informed [00:09:00] opinions.

[00:09:00] I have to believe this is your life. Is that true?

[00:09:04] Coach Rob Regish: [00:09:04] You know, it's an interesting question. And it also leads to the next question. Does this need to be your life in order for you to be successful at or even knowledgeable? And I'll say that's a resounding no. Um, however, it would be accurate to say that yeah.

[00:09:20] You know, training as I'll call it. In all things related to, it are a big, big part of my life. And they have been ever since my early teens. So the last 35 years or so, it certainly isn't my only interest. Okay. I could tell you almost as much about military aircraft, certain weapon systems and other things that I just have a keen interest in and somehow or another, I worked in, in the insurance industry for 20 years.

[00:09:51] Um, Which, you know, you might be surprised to hear, uh, you can learn a little bit about the [00:10:00] way, the kind of shape that you keep yourself in and its effect on morbidity and mortality. And the reason I'm saying that is I worked with the actuaries, which were people who crunched statistics. Like you wouldn't believe, you could tell you pretty reliably how long you're going to live.

[00:10:19] And that's why they make, that's why companies make money on life insurance. Uh, and also the long-term care angle. I worked in, you know, basically insurance for nursing homes for many, many years. So I got to see the effect that tending to your health or not has on you. I also other interests, I take jiu-jitsu classes, uh, for about four years now.

[00:10:42] Uh, but those and other interests. Really never Rose to the level of obsession that training did. The more I worked in insurance, the more I dreamed I would lay down at night and dream of the day when that world would go away. [00:11:00] And you just let me do what I'm doing now, which is I can honestly tell you this for almost two decades.

[00:11:09] Training was the last thing I remember thinking about before going to bed. And it was the first thing I remember thinking about when I woke up. And so every spare minute I had in between that I spent, you know, learning, reading and an experiment, it looking back on things. It, it wasn't the fact that it was the only thing in my life.

[00:11:32] It was the intensity of my interest. Right. And when you have an intense interest in something, you will stop at nothing. To learn more about it and to become successful at it. There was no amount of money I wasn't willing to part with. And I probably partnered with way too much because, you know, I started using supplements early and needless to say, there wasn't a lot on the market then that did anything.

[00:12:00] [00:12:00] I also never had a buying guide, like I could put out today and do put out today, but be that as it may, um, to me. The beauty was in the simplicity. If you train hard and you train smart, you did everything right. There would be a payoff, which would be either got bigger or stronger or both. If I didn't train hard, if I didn't train smart and I made mistakes anywhere in there, I didn't get bigger or stronger.

[00:12:28] You see how simple that is? The rest of the world never seemed so simple to me. And so, as an example, I saw people, good people work themselves to the bone and their employers can do them anyway, because you know, there was a recession on the company. The board of directors decided to cut five across or 5% across the board.

[00:12:53] This year, these people didn't do anything wrong. They were the victim of [00:13:00] circumstance and there a lot of them, their lives were ruined. They got divorced. They lost their homes. Their cars were repossessed. You know, it's scary stuff. I also saw good husbands whose spouses left them just on a whim for other men, took the kids and the court, the courts back in the people, mostly the women who left back them up all the way.

[00:13:24] I mean, unless you're a woman with a heroin needle hanging out of your arm, they're going to give you the kids and that's wrong. No, but that's how American courts, that's how family court is today. The world doesn't seem to care being a good housing. Then it means nothing to the courts. It means nothing to the judge you'd think.

[00:13:45] Right. That would count for something.

[00:13:47] Carl Lanore: [00:13:47] I know when I went through my divorce, I was shocked to learn that there's no justice in family court. There's nothing about fairness and family court. There are biases. If [00:14:00] you're a man, you are a perpetrator, you are a terrorist, you are an abuser. It doesn't matter if you really, those things, when you walk in, that's who you

[00:14:11] Coach Rob Regish: [00:14:11] are.

[00:14:12] Yep. And, uh, and that's not right, but that's another topic for another day. Um, so I can't, I couldn't control that. What I could control was what I knew. And so when I was about age 30, I decided to compile everything that I knew were most of it into a book about training. Right. And share that with as many people as would pick the book up and recognize, you know what, there's a lot of truth in this.

[00:14:42] This guy's not trying to sell me anything other than here are the mistakes I made, don't make them like I did. Right. Um, and the fact of the matter is this, once you have that knowledge, nobody. Can ever take that away from you. [00:15:00] Unlike your employer, who can fire you or your spouse who can leave you, nobody can take the compiled knowledge that you have here and the body that you build as a result of that knowledge away SHR to me, it is it's, it's a.

[00:15:20] Broad extension of the blueprint. Two book that I originally wrote it's for people who love this stuff and realize many of the same truths that we speak here every week. So it's my hope that, that every blueprint power hour that I do inspire someone at least gives them something to think about. So no training, isn't my only interest.

[00:15:41] I don't think even, even if it was, I don't think that would be the optimal thing for most people. It is the one that I care about the most. I've been blessed beyond words doing the job that I'm doing. And so I would only tell you this, if there's [00:16:00] something that you're that passionate about, um, pursue it because you never know where it might go.

[00:16:07] And if like me, if you die tomorrow, you will go out knowing you did what you were put here to do. And, and you gave it everything that you had, and they can never take that away from you. And those are the kinds of things, not how much money you made, not what kind of car that they talk about. Funerals.

[00:16:29] Yeah. Yup.

[00:16:31] Carl Lanore: [00:16:31] Um, the next question comes from, sorry. Uh, John. Well, she says I am a long-time user of progenitor X and loved this stuff. Every time I go on it, I can feel it. And see it on the scale. So to me, it's money well

[00:16:49] Coach Rob Regish: [00:16:49] spent, he goes on

[00:16:53] Carl Lanore: [00:16:53] there's even a doctor who wrote a review about it, saying how impressed he was.

[00:16:58] Does it really contain [00:17:00] no hormones? And when he probably means no anabolic steroids,

[00:17:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:17:03] Yeah. And you know what, I get this question a lot between Cynthia and the progenitor X, especially though like, look, you know, what's really in it. Um, and, and obviously that differs, you know, that they, they get ahold of Cynthia and all of a sudden they're bouncing back from workouts.

[00:17:19] Like they were teenagers again. And they want to know what's up. And then when they get projected directs, they notice, you know, they can, they can eat more food, particularly carbohydrates, and it's not showing up on their waists. They're lifting slightly heavier weights in the gym and they're like, okay, what's, what's the deal?

[00:17:38] You know, this is, uh, this feels like a little something extra. I understand why people are skeptical. Um, because unfortunately companies in the sports nutrition game have played this game that way before they've put real anabolic steroids in their products, they put really strong designer stimulants in their [00:18:00] pre-work.

[00:18:00] Carl Lanore: [00:18:00] I wanted to mention something. So I know a company no longer in business, but they will using such powerful antibiotic, an oral anabolic steroid. That they incorporated into the gel cap.

[00:18:16] Coach Rob Regish: [00:18:16] Yes. I heard about that.

[00:18:18] Carl Lanore: [00:18:18] And so when the FDA suspecting that there was real gear in these supplements had them sent for analysis.

[00:18:28] What's the first thing they did. They opened up the cap, they put their powder out and they test the powder, says, no, it's nothing in yet. The FDA never figured it out. They never figured it out. That what was really the agent causing all the muscle gains was in the two little capsules that they put together.

[00:18:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:18:51] That's it? That really is ingenious. That company deserves to be in business still, if they could just put that same time and energy towards [00:19:00] legitimate fraud. Right, right. Um, but look, short answer and an easy answer in the case of both products. Um, but especially progenitor X, cause you're asking about it.

[00:19:09] There are no hormones in either products, uh, as neither requires hormones to have a fallible effect, if you will. The fact is the body has other mechanisms that are central to the recovery and growth process that can be modulated. I'll call it with non-hormonal compounds. Right? Alternatively, those same non hormonals can be used to.

[00:19:34] To positively affect hormonal outcomes. And what I'm talking about there is, uh, you're, you're doing something that causes an improvement in what are your hormone levels, but you're doing it like coaxing your body to make more, or there's a better balance of it. And there's no, um, disruption or downregulation as there would be by taking, [00:20:00] uh, and an active hormone.

[00:20:02] I'll call it. For example, uh, we've discussed TMG trimethylglycine here many, many times. AKA B T it is simply the amino acid glycine with three methyl groups attached. Right. But studies show that there's a cell volumizing effect, not unlike creatines. Right. Um, but also. It's a, there's a measurable effect on IGF one levels and cortisol levels raising and lowering them, I think respectively.

[00:20:36] So those are both hormones, right? But Nope, that TMG is not a hormone. It's not even close. Uh, it isn't supplying IGF one. Nor is cortisol being squashed. Like the way, you know, guys would take Cedric massive amounts of it and other things to drive cortisol, to crush it, you know, almost out of existence. [00:21:00] So it's useful to know certainly than what each ingredient is doing.

[00:21:05] In order for you to make an educated buying decision. So, so how is progenitor X doing what it does? Um, by label it's an, a cyclist per ether from creatine hydrochloride, R alpha lipoic acid, sodium diphosphate and Lexo Jeanette. And so if you're trying to determine whether it works to the extent that makes it cost effective for you, first thing you'll notice is a kind of feel good effect, tough to put your finger on it, but it's there.

[00:21:36] I suspect it has to do with the effects, uh, with an, a cyclist has on the brain that some, and that's something by the way that I would encourage you to read about. Uh, there's a website examine.com. You know, they do not sell supplements. They're just a research based website. I think certainly, uh, uh, Adele over there at sub Versiti has also written about this [00:22:00] turns out and a cyclist also has research showing that more carbs that are consumed are, are stored as glycogen, right.

[00:22:10] Or, or. You know, stored carbohydrate in the muscle cell versus converting to triglyceride. Something that as an example of overlapping ingredients are ALA helps with as well. And when I say overlapping, I mean, in terms of a backup safety net type of mechanism where you will certainly get this effect, either for me, the Ana cyclist or the RA LA one of the two, but you're going to get it.

[00:22:38] R a L a is also a player in making sure that the creatine and the product, uh, more of in any way makes it into your muscles. Okay. And as I covered last week, I think it was creating transport is primarily dependent, is primarily sodium dependent for crossing the cell gradient. Right. Making it [00:23:00] into the muscle cell where it can sit, attract water and.

[00:23:04] Perform other minor miracles, um, to, to grow muscle and enhance health, as it turns out in the way that it does. Uh, in fact, creating transport into the muscle cell is more sodium dependent and insulin dependent, which early on guys were taking 75, a hundred grams of sugar, sugar, along with their creatine.

[00:23:29] In order to ensure this big insulin response. And I don't think you need that, you know, a hundred grams of sugar. Isn't good for anybody. I'm sorry. Um, and, and it still leaves the, uh, the sodium out of the equation. Finally, the lack Sojun and in the product, uh, has some nice anti-inflammatory effects. I also suspect that as an analog of equity, it further helps and keeps them the fat off.

[00:23:56] By positively modulating your blood sugar. This [00:24:00] is one of the big, big benefits. I would say. It's the biggest that equity has. Um, people don't necessarily see it until they get their blood work back. They can certainly see it. I think after two, three, four months in use and they're a little bit leaner and they're a little bit stronger.

[00:24:18] So at the end of the day, um, look no hormones in the product. You should have a bigger appetite. You should be able to eat more carbs and without, you know, without them showing you around your waist. Um, and also, you know, additionally keeps them fat off by, uh, positively affecting blood sugar. We haven't changed the formula, which is over five years now.

[00:24:44] Uh, we haven't changed the formula one bit since day one. And the reason for that is simple. It works really, really well for most, which is why you, you saw that rave review from the doctor, um, on predator, I think [00:25:00] it's predator and nutrition.com and elsewhere. So if I'm, if I remember correctly, you ran it through a battery of tests to determine whether or not it was.

[00:25:11] You know, screwing with testosterone levels, didn't find that same thing with growth hormone. Didn't find that it's not how it works. Um, but at the end of the day it does work and that's, what's important and that works without hormones.

[00:25:29] Carl Lanore: [00:25:29] Uh, we're going to take a quick commercial break. Well, when we come back, we have more questions. The next question is going to be from Timothy. Well you're watching and listening to the blueprint power hour. You can go to coach Rob ruggish.com or use the code S H R network.biz/uh, coach Rob. I think it is.

[00:25:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:25:50] Uh, let me make sure. Let me just put this up here real quick

[00:25:53] Carl Lanore: [00:25:53] so that I can remind myself yes, a SHR network.biz. Um, forward slash coach Rob, [00:26:00] you use the code SHR five to get the blueprint Bolton, uh, three months for 1499, less than $5 a month. Test drive it. See what you think of it. We'll be right back with more.

[00:26:12] Stay tuned.

[00:26:20] Welcome back. I'm, uh, adjusting my green

[00:26:23] Coach Rob Regish: [00:26:23] screen.

[00:26:25] Carl Lanore: [00:26:25] Of course, it's messing with me today. The screen keeps disappearing behind me. I mean, it just, just disappears. And then I have to, I have to readjust the camera, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, uh, the next question comes from. Hey look now we're having blinking cameras.

[00:26:45] Uh, Timothy. Well, he says, ah, come on. Things are not working here today.

[00:26:54] Coach Rob Regish: [00:26:54] Something happened when you did the screen. You're breaking up on me quite a bit.

[00:26:59] Carl Lanore: [00:26:59] Oh, [00:27:00] I don't understand it. And I don't even my, uh, control.

[00:27:03] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:03] Uh, I'm just getting the word here or there. I can, I can launch into my answer if, uh, if you can hear me,

[00:27:11] Carl Lanore: [00:27:11] I can, I can hear you.

[00:27:12] Can you hear me?

[00:27:14] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:14] Yeah. So

[00:27:15] Carl Lanore: [00:27:15] having this is from this is from stream yard, having trouble connecting. This is often caused by unstable internet connections. So they're saying that it's a unstable internet connection. Hold on.

[00:27:32] Everything looks fine. Oh, man.

[00:27:41] Coach Rob Regish: [00:27:41] Uh, the site can't be reached.

[00:28:03] [00:28:00] Carl Lanore: [00:28:03] We just lost the internet.

[00:28:15] Well, it looks like we just lost the internet and. I don't know there's something going on upstairs. They're fixing some stuff

[00:28:21] Coach Rob Regish: [00:28:21] upstairs. Let me see if I can

[00:28:23] Carl Lanore: [00:28:23] get this to come back up.

[00:28:37] I'll message. Coach. Rob. It looks like we just lost the internet. I'm trying to get it back up now.

[00:28:47] Here we go.

[00:28:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:28:50] Balaka late.

[00:28:51] Carl Lanore: [00:28:51] Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Hold on. Hold on, hold [00:29:00] on. Hold on. We, we, we lost the internet. Is what happened? Are you there, Rob?

[00:29:05] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:05] Yeah, I'm here.

[00:29:06] Carl Lanore: [00:29:06] Okay. We literally had an internet blackout Degas day. They building a new office upstairs from me.

[00:29:11] I wouldn't be surprised if they, he didn't do something up there, but anyway, we're back on now. Let's let's carry on. So the next question comes from Timothy. Well,

[00:29:20] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:20] and he

[00:29:20] Carl Lanore: [00:29:20] says what ever happened to the company? XO. It was actually used old labs. Uh, can you tell me why Zevia tall had such a cult?

[00:29:33] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:33] I laugh because, uh, the last question was about slipping hormones into supplements.

[00:29:39] Carl Lanore: [00:29:39] Is that what they were doing? So laugh.

[00:29:41] Coach Rob Regish: [00:29:41] Well, that that's a, that's a part of Zoladz story. The other part, interestingly enough, is, um, they did have some legitimate products that work that were not hormonal, at least in my opinion.

[00:29:54] So the, but the first thing we need to do is define what zone we're talking about, [00:30:00] because there's more than one.

[00:30:01] Carl Lanore: [00:30:01] There wasn't, it wasn't one company making synthol, there was a Zol labs that made escalation, escalation, or something like that.

[00:30:10] Coach Rob Regish: [00:30:10] Yeah. And you know what, um, here's how you can tell Zoho discoveries was the original Zebbie tall, do not be confused or misled, I should say, by Zoho labs, uh, Zoe enterprises or, or any such company.

[00:30:27] Now I couldn't find Zeb Zev out there today online, but I did find under the, um, Sort of Zoho label, all sorts of fake products with steroid sounding names that are designed to trick the kiddies into thinking they just stumbled across legal steroids. Oh boy, let's get mom's credit card out. Um, Zero discoveries.

[00:30:52] The original was around in the early to mid nineties first, uh, with the lack Sojun and acetate product, which was [00:31:00] simply named XD stair on small white, sublinguals only a milligram and a half. If you can believe it, ZBB to all the product in question was a Summa sterile extract. Hm. And they also had a short-lived product called  Balaka, which I can't recall what was in that, but.

[00:31:19] I do remember it worked even better and faster than with Zeb or then rather, and I have another interesting story about that a little bit. I can tell you with certainty that for many years, that the ecentric chemist, Mark Thurman, who w is spoken about quite a bit in the book steroid nation. Great read.

[00:31:43] If you get a chance, he formulated most of their products, including. All of the empty stare on derivatives, as well as something that I haven't seen since which I thought was great, uh, DCP, something called . In fact, [00:32:00] if you scratch around on pub med under, under that heading di cyclopentane on you'll, you'll find at least one study citing the quote unquote anabolic activity of some Dyke dice cyclopentane on derivatives.

[00:32:15] It was a, a black tar like smelling substance that was put into these gel tabs. And man, did it create, um, that study, which was published in Russian in 1975, came to the conclusion that although non-hormonal DCP was twice as anabolic as the reference compound that they used, which was methyl Andrew steam dial.

[00:32:45] Very interesting reading. If you, if you can come across a translated version, I spoke, I actually spoke with Mark Dearman once, uh, while I was writing the original blueprint he has since passed on, or at least [00:33:00] that's a story that's going around. There are many people who think he faked his own death, right?

[00:33:06] Because he had been in hot water with the government. They took everything he ever. You know, accumulated and owned, uh, over GA I think it was GHB manufacturing and a few other things, but it would be fair to say that most of those products. Picked up kind of where Athletico is red, a ball left off. And they sh why?

[00:33:30] Because they too provided a tangible feelable effect and that kind of furthered my and other people's interest in it. And they, you can still see people looking for Zebbie tall to this day, almost 30 years later, what was in it. Damn defy. No. Uh, and I had several of them tested the bottle of Zeb that I sent away for, uh, to have tested the [00:34:00] results of those tests came back as inconclusive.

[00:34:03] So I asked them what that meant and they said, look, we can tell that there's some steroids, sterol related compound in there. But whether that it was, you know, whether that was an equity steroid or the real deal, they couldn't say, um, why do people still look for it? Well, a bottle of Zev was good for 10 pounds on most people.

[00:34:27] And, uh, you know, the weight started coming on around week three and they continued through week six to eight, depending upon how long you ran it, in retrospect. Zombie tall itself did not feel hormonal. There are other product heck standalone. However, was another story. There were the small white sublinguals.

[00:34:51] Uh, the only thing I could get out of the company at the time was it was a quote unquote, more efficient. Zebbie tall. You gained 10 pounds, not in [00:35:00] eight weeks, but then like three weeks, you know, it came on quick that, um, and I got more than a central nervous system tick. A lot of it, it made me train harder.

[00:35:13] But here's the thing. When I had blood work done it put my HDLs on the cellar. So little wonder it didn't last long. What was it was methyl test on? I don't know. I really don't know. Um, but Zoho in particular. So in general, long story short, these products are long gone. And it's anyone's guess what was really in them.

[00:35:36] Um, there is one fun fact you might be interested in Zoho. The company was named after the owner's pet pig. Zoe, that's funny. Uh, yeah. And today that and the legend of how well, some of their equity products work, because all that remains with them, there is no real Zoho out there today.

[00:35:56] Carl Lanore: [00:35:56] You know, what's really funny, uh, back in the

[00:35:58] Coach Rob Regish: [00:35:58] day, [00:36:00] probably 20 years ago or so,

[00:36:02] Carl Lanore: [00:36:02] um, there.

[00:36:03] We're a lot of bunk gear websites. They were out in the open. Um, there was a guy named Brian Clapp who, who had two or three different websites that were all had steroid in their name, their names.

[00:36:21] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:21] And

[00:36:22] Carl Lanore: [00:36:22] they used, they use labels names seems like, um, like, uh, Instead of Diana bowl, it was D bowl D hyphen bowl

[00:36:37] Coach Rob Regish: [00:36:37] and

[00:36:38] Carl Lanore: [00:36:38] yeah.

[00:36:38] And so, and when you read the ingredients, it had fenugreek and it had cayenne pepper. It had da TA. That was the one thing it had DHA and they preyed upon young high school. And aren't educated about gear college guys. [00:37:00] We thought they were really buying real anabolic steroids on the internet. He made hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[00:37:09] And here's the interesting, the interesting snafu, right? The FDA didn't care because he wasn't selling anything illegal. Um, so he was operating in this gray area. Where he was ripping people off. He never said that. So real anabolic steroids in anything, but he used these names to imply and sold them.

[00:37:34] Right. Very high prices. I mean, you know, a bottle of DHA is what, six, $8. I mean, he was getting like $65 for this, stack it with that. These people were spending $150 thinking they were somehow circumventing. Um, The FDA's authority and buying real steroids. So he operated in this cloud where the FDA didn't care what he was doing, because he wasn't selling anything illegal.

[00:38:00] [00:38:00] And you, what was some, what was the kid going to do? Go to his father and say, I thought I was buying steroids. It's bunk, you know, and he operated for a long time until, until Anthony Roberts wrote an article about him. And then the FDA took an interest. I I'm sure he's gone now. He has to be gone now. I've never heard anything else about him.

[00:38:24] Um, but he operated from th this was very common in the, in the early days. There wasn't the, uh, celebrity sports, uh, athletes. Being nailed by WADA and stuff like that. And these guys were, they were just ripping and running either. They were selling things that had steroids in them, but didn't say it on the label or they were selling things that were supposed to look and smell like steroids, but had nothing in the capsules whatsoever.

[00:38:56] It was just funny.

[00:38:57] Coach Rob Regish: [00:38:57] Just funny. That's it's still going [00:39:00] on. I mean, if you Google Zol labs, you'll see what I'm talking about. It's just complete scam really.

[00:39:05] Carl Lanore: [00:39:05] Early.

[00:39:05] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:05] Yeah, like you just said, you know, instead of Diana Ball Debo, instead of DECA, D E C a D E K K a.

[00:39:15] Carl Lanore: [00:39:15] Yeah.

[00:39:15] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:15] Right. And it's just, yeah, there's a

[00:39:19] Carl Lanore: [00:39:19] sucker born every minute.

[00:39:21] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:21] Right? Exactly.

[00:39:22] Carl Lanore: [00:39:22] Rod Tron guard says you S you seem fond of compound movements. Are there any isolation movements that you think are worthwhile?

[00:39:34] Coach Rob Regish: [00:39:34] A fairly easy question to answer, but you know, look, the fact of the matter is this. If everyone lifting weights performed only big compound lifts, there'd be a lot more muscle in the world to my mind.

[00:39:48] A lot of time and energy is wasted on these little movements, trying to quote unquote isolate a muscle or muscle group. So, you know, you tell [00:40:00] me where in life though. Are you isolating your muscle groups and performing work? I can't think of a single example. When you, as an example, when you lift the child over your head or you lift a bag of groceries, uh, you know, you're not isolating muscles, you push a wheelbarrow, you're not isolating the, you know, quadricep muscle or the vastus medialis, your entire body.

[00:40:27] Is pushing that wheelbarrow. So you're using all of your muscles, the body functions as a unit and multiple muscle groups contract simultaneously to perform work. In fact, if there's any secret to, to re being really strong, it is this. Train as much muscle as you can to contract simultaneously as, as fast as possible.

[00:40:55] And your power will increase. I promise you [00:41:00] exponentially. You've heard of, uh, you know, the grandmother who lifted a car off her grandchildren after an accident. It's true story. It happened up in New Hampshire. What you saw that day. With someone who under obviously under the influence of a hell of a lot of adrenaline used every muscle group in her body to lift that car.

[00:41:23] She didn't isolate any muscles and doing so. In fact, it was quite the opposite. That's also by the way, the reason that the top range rack pole that I speak of, so fondly works. And work so well. Yes, you're only moving the wait and enter too, but here's the thing, the muscle, doesn't the muscles of your body.

[00:41:46] When they're asked to contract against resistance like that, they don't know range of motion. It, they do know tension and, and a dramatic rise in tension due to trying [00:42:00] to lift that. You know, a huge amount of weight is what allowed this grandmother to perform this superhuman feat. So you'll never, you will never come close to doing anything like that by isolating muscles.

[00:42:13] In my opinion, now, in my gym, there's a cable crossover unit, right? Smack dab in the middle of it. Branching off of that cable crossover unit or other cables, you know, that you've got high and low pulleys and lap pull down stations and other table stuff. Um, the only part of it, I think that is worthwhile is running across the top is a chin up bar right in the middle.

[00:42:43] And. It drives me nuts that I can almost never get in there because I'm looking at a bunch of morons doing cable curls, you know, tricep, kickbacks, and other nonsense. Right. And if these people put that same [00:43:00] time and energy into chin-ups, they'd be a lot stronger and they'd have a lot more muscle. In fact, I've come to the conclusion that the fastest way to attract a large amount of gym idiots.

[00:43:12] Is to set up a cable crossover station. They just seem to flock to it, you know, all day long. It's never, it's not like it, it, it stands still like the four way NEC machine or the reverse hyper ironically enough. Um, That'll do it just about every time, but that's the answer to your question? The answer is almost no isolation booth, unless I'm trying to flush blood into an area like leg extensions, you know, to get some blood in my needs, uh, prior to squatting, uh, The only injury that I've ever had that's required.

[00:43:51] Our surgery was a result of an isolation movement, uh, dumbbell side laterals. So, and yeah, I [00:44:00] did get carried away with the weight, but still, you know, it's putting your, your shoulder and other muscles into a very disadvantageous position. Uh, you, it's not a movement where you're. Can lift a lot of weight and consequently, uh, its ability to stimulate muscle growth is limited.

[00:44:22] That's my 2 cents on it.

[00:44:24] Carl Lanore: [00:44:24] But I mean, if you're doing, if you're doing pull downs, you're you're you're accident, you're, you're activating more than one muscle that you can, you can use cables to do things that gravity doesn't favor. Like doing cable curls. If you're going to do curls, uh, doing a barbell curl, obviously activates a lot of muscle, but so does doing a cable curl and possibly hits the bicep even greater.

[00:44:54] Because once you get past parallel, the, the effect of [00:45:00] gravity on the weight that you're moving. If you're using, let's say a dumbbell or a barbell, it drops it, it starts to shift. And where a cable won't. Forgive you at the top end of the movement. It's the weight stays the same, but I, I get what you're saying.

[00:45:14] And I think that the pull-up and the chin up are really avoided because they're so hard, you know, most of us could do two or three good chin ups and we're like, Oh, that sucks. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to go do something. I could do eight to 10, even though that chin up. Even if you only get four out and grow into five and then into six is going to activate a lot more muscle and build a lot more muscle too.

[00:45:40] But that's why people don't do them because they're too hard.

[00:45:43] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:43] Yeah, it's probably you're right. You're absolutely right.

[00:45:47] Carl Lanore: [00:45:47] Let's take a quick commercial break. When we come back, we have the blueprint tip of the day, and then later I got a little rant. I'm

[00:45:51] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:51] going to

[00:45:53] Carl Lanore: [00:45:53] let go of Rob wants to stay for it. He's welcome to stay.

[00:45:56] Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

[00:45:59] Coach Rob Regish: [00:45:59] This is [00:46:00] the superhuman channel

[00:46:01] Carl Lanore: [00:46:01] evolution just got kicked up a notch.

[00:46:09] Welcome back.

[00:46:12] Coach Rob Regish: [00:46:12] So,

[00:46:12] Carl Lanore: [00:46:12] Rob, what is the blueprint tip of the day?

[00:46:16] Coach Rob Regish: [00:46:16] The day has to do with what you got between your ears? At least when it comes to training knowledge, uh, and the fact that it's absolutely priceless and every now and then I get a reminder of this. And so yesterday was one of those days. I was looking forward to hitting my five sets of five, uh, target deadlift, which I have, uh, phonically slowly been building towards.

[00:46:43] And, you know, yesterday was going to be the day. Um, things have been going like clockwork weekend and week out, but of course, every now and then life throws you a curve ball. There was something in my lower back. That didn't [00:47:00] feel right. I'm not talking about pain of any sort. I don't to have any pain. Um, and there was nothing preventing me from handling my warmup weights, but there was something there and I knew had I had, I proceeded.

[00:47:16] I was asking for it. Uh, something was wrong. Still can't put my finger on it. Um, it's almost gone, but I was like, okay. Live to fight another day. And I stripped the bar and I went to, to a plan B, which was, Hey, okay, you can't do lower body. I'll do some upper body. I started with handstand pushups, which I know.

[00:47:40] And I've talked about it before. I know they're a superior movement for just about every pressing muscle in your upper body. And so I was cranking out rep after rep and more importantly, I was kicking up against the wall. Um, and nailing it every time that, and that's something I had [00:48:00] been working really hard on because it's as easy as it sounds.

[00:48:03] It's not, um, if you, if you've ever tried it, you know, when I'm talking about over the years, I've developed and written about. Uh, what I think is the fastest way to perform these and the little trick I give to kick up onto the wall and not tumble back down and have to kick up again, eat, eating up all of your energy that made the difference.

[00:48:26] So, so. You know, as things went on, they not only felt effortless. They seem to get easier. Right. As a set rule by here's the thing though I need, you know, usually I'll try to perform max reps or add as much weight fast as I can yesterday. I decided to keep things really easy. Meaning just sets of three reps.

[00:48:50] So once that goes by two sets of three sets before I know at that turns into 10 and eventually 12, right? For, [00:49:00] for a grand total of 36 reps. I felt like a kid again, I really did, uh, in between, because of the lower back thing, I took advantage of our reverse hyper, right. Did a few high reps. That's the flush blood in there.

[00:49:15] Um, but after my 12th and final set of handstand pushups, I felt like a million bucks. And this is after feeling dejected. Right. Because. I couldn't couldn't hit the deadlift target that I've been so patiently building towards I've expanded on the virtues of that movement and sand shoulder press before, um, and, and had been performing them regularly again.

[00:49:41] Why? Because they pair exceptionally well with the chin-ups, uh, that I've been also working so hard on, and I have a very specific. Program for in many ways, I think they're even superior depths if you've been doing them, which is one hell of an upper body exercise in its own. Right. [00:50:00] They just, they make you feel fantastic, which is likely a function of several things.

[00:50:05] But one is the, is the improved blood flow to the brain. I'm sure. Um, the, the balance that's needed to stay in Verdun is another one. And of course, You know, you gotta have a lot of pound for pound strength in order to pull everything off. They are very good. It's a very good exercise at revealing your relative strength.

[00:50:30] So, you know, whether you're a hundred pounds or 300 pounds, if you see someone doing them, you know, pretty much that they have worked really hard to squeeze everything out of their potential. Right? You can it's it's like a, um, No, a one-arm chin up. You can take that lift anywhere in the world and rightfully be proud of it because it's no easy task.

[00:50:56] Most people won't even attempt it. And [00:51:00] yesterday I saw somebody attempt to, he almost broke his neck, um, because he just wanted to launch into it on a whim. So, um, notice what I didn't do yesterday, though. What I didn't do was I didn't say, Oh, you know, woe is me and go home. I didn't revert to my normal upper body workout either.

[00:51:24] And I didn't tell myself I was this old and broken down old man or 52. What I did do was attempt something different, slightly different something, as it turns out that nobody else in that gym was doing. And something that I knew held a lot of value. I didn't need to go home and brush up on it. I could've, but I didn't need to, that knowledge was already up here.

[00:51:51] It just took this minor crisis, lower back issue to bring it out and believe it or not. I'm actually glad that my [00:52:00] lower back felt iffy yesterday. Because today I have a whole new outlook on things, especially upper potty training. I have new goals and importantly, I have a new plan and a truckload of motivation to get me there.

[00:52:17] Having a small library of these things, waiting in the wings for, for these types of occasions is critical. It becomes more and more critical. The older you get. Well, I can't see myself. Let's say at age 60 military pressing 300 pounds, I can for sure. See my selling, uh, for sure. See myself pulling off a 300 pound handstand pushup.

[00:52:45] And why do I say that? Because right now, you know, I can do one rep with a 25 pound weight best and that's two 25. There's your two 50. It's a matter of 50 pounds, which is a fair amount to go. But. Think about it, you know, [00:53:00] I put a 10 year timeline on it. You damn sure better be able to get to it as long as you're injury free.

[00:53:08] Um, and that's with a severely arthritic right elbow, right? I mean, any time I try to put any weight on a barbell bench press or even overhead press, it is a very sharp. Right. Stabbing pain. And I know the exact reason why that hurts versus handstand pushups that I can crank out with relative, ease the elbows naturally fall in the handstand, pushup into their safest and strongest position while you press, which is out in front of the body, you can see for yourself fall forward to the ground.

[00:53:47] And tell me where your elbows wind up. It's not splayed out to the side, like in the bench press it's in front of your body. The body is assuming it's safest and strongest, by [00:54:00] the way, um, position, the point I'm trying to make here is this things aren't always going to go according to plan. My plan yesterday, went out the window, but I had a backup plan waiting in the wings and because I've written extensively about this stuff, which only came after I read extensively about it.

[00:54:23] I have an incredibly effective method now to rapidly gain strength in that particular movement and lots of others. And that's true. If you can do a dozen reps or two dozen or even one rep, now it's something to build from the fact is everyone needs something like that. And the good news is it's out there today, right?

[00:54:47] It doesn't come in a bottle. It doesn't come and anything that you can buy at GNC. And the good news is it's not gone in 30 days either, because once you have that knowledge, it's [00:55:00] yours for life and it's yours to either keep to yourself or share with others as you see fit. So I'm not going to tell you that something like that solves all your problems, but just knowing you have that, those types of things.

[00:55:16] Up here at your disposal, uh, raises your confidence levels dramatically that can and will improve the quality of your life dramatically. So in some cases, not true for pills, potions, and powders, because even when the chips are down, it'll be there when you need it most. And that, in my opinion, that type of knowledge is priceless.

[00:55:42] Get out there and acquire it, however you deem fit, but do it.

[00:55:49] Carl Lanore: [00:55:49] Hey, great.

[00:55:50] Coach Rob Regish: [00:55:50] Good to go.

[00:55:52] Carl Lanore: [00:55:52] We're going to take one more commercial break. And when we come back, I have a, I have a. A rant, a little pet peeve that I [00:56:00] have to share with the audience. I actually posted about it on Facebook today. So stay tuned. We'll be right back with more of the blueprint.

[00:56:06] Oh,

[00:56:08] Coach Rob Regish: [00:56:08] I'm going to tell him because we feel good.

[00:56:20] Carl Lanore: [00:56:20] welcome back.

[00:56:24] Coach Rob Regish: [00:56:24] My wife loves your Facebook post by the way,

[00:56:26] Carl Lanore: [00:56:26] which one? The one that I'm going to talk about now,

[00:56:29] Coach Rob Regish: [00:56:29] all of them she's, I will be riding along in the car and she like, Oh, Carl posted any words.

[00:56:37] Carl Lanore: [00:56:37] So peptides are all the rage today, right? Everybody wants to know about peptides. And, and as a result, anytime there's a rage going on, there are people who take positions in that category.

[00:56:52] As experts

[00:56:56] Coach Rob Regish: [00:56:56] and

[00:56:58] Carl Lanore: [00:56:58] I'm not an expert. And in [00:57:00] fact, Elisa said, why did you make that post this morning? And I said, well, I saw a post on Facebook, inviting people to attend this seminar on peptides, put on by experts. And these experts were names. I didn't know, except one, one person I knew. And it must have been 24 people on that list of experts.

[00:57:29] Coach Rob Regish: [00:57:29] Wow.

[00:57:30] Carl Lanore: [00:57:30] And I looked at it and I thought, I wonder why no one ever reaches out to me,

[00:57:36] Coach Rob Regish: [00:57:36] um,

[00:57:38] Carl Lanore: [00:57:38] to be part of an expert panel about peptides. And the reason I ask myself that question is because I, when first started talking about peptides in 2006, with Anthony Roberts, we did in 2006 throughout the year of 2006, we first started talking about IGF one versus [00:58:00] IGF one long are three.

[00:58:01] Coach Rob Regish: [00:58:01] Yeah.

[00:58:02] Carl Lanore: [00:58:02] We did a show on mechanical growth factor versus pegylated McConnell growth factor. We did a show on . And of course growth hormone all in 2006. Now, keep in mind that since then, I have been using peptides every day for probably the better part of 14 close to 15 years.

[00:58:26] Coach Rob Regish: [00:58:26] I use an expert.

[00:58:28] Carl Lanore: [00:58:28] Well, and I've used and I've experimented with every peptide I've ever talked about.

[00:58:33] ARA two 90 PE, 20 to 28. I mean, I use them all. I assess them. I used them in high doses sometimes to see what I notice. Yeah. Um, and so, you know, and that, and then I looked at the landscape. So as peptides became more and more popular, there were people who took positions in the peptide space. One of the greatest contributors to expanding our understanding [00:59:00] about growth hormone, secreted, Gog, specifically, and that is modified, uh, growth or releasing factor one through 29 plus.

[00:59:09] Um, Jay  was the guy who simply went by the name of dat be true. Dat the letter B T R U E. He ended up getting busted because not only was he doing this research and opening up the knowledge base of peptides, but more specifically growth hormone, secreted, Gox, um, he opened up his own peptide website. And that was the only advertiser on his forum.

[00:59:41] So, you know, the FDA caught up with them. The DEA caught up with them and he, while he's not in jail today, he's out of business and I'd love to have him on the show. I want them to have them on the show because I was talking about peptides. When I learned about dat be true. I messaged him on his board to said, come [01:00:00] on the show.

[01:00:00] He says he didn't want to. He says he doesn't want to bring that much attention to himself. And I respected that. That's fine. Um, Around that time. I started getting emails from a doctor named Dr. Bill seeds. He was listening to the show, my show, and he loved when I talked about peptides and I probably could find these emails.

[01:00:21] He said, man, you are just killing it. You're you're breaking, uh, releasing information. That's going to change the world. And, and it was very generous with his compliments. Don't get me wrong. I'm not, but then you fast forward. Dr seeds founded the international peptides society. And I would imagine that every one of those experts has listened to at least one of my pep talks.

[01:00:47] Coach Rob Regish: [01:00:47] Yeah.

[01:00:47] Carl Lanore: [01:00:47] But yet I don't fall into the category of an expert. Well, maybe because I don't paint myself as an expert, maybe I don't, I don't say, Hey, I'm a peptide expert. Right. [01:01:00] And I messaged, uh, Anthony Roberts this morning. And I said, I guess I'm a peptide trailblazer. If I'm not an expert, I'm the trailblazer because I'm talking about and using peptides way before any of these new experts, this bumper crop of experts, and don't get me wrong.

[01:01:19] You look at Dr. Elizabeth earth. You look at Dr. Suzanne Turner. These are peptide experts. They're not only. Talking about peptides. They're learning about peptides. They're using peptides in their practices with their patients and they're getting results. So I'm not saying, Oh, these experts don't know anything.

[01:01:39] But what I am saying is you would think that being the trailblazer, the 4runner, a guy who was talking about peptide before that be true, a guy who was talking to pep pep to before bill, bill, Dr. Bill seeds became the head of international peptides society. Would would at least get an honorable mention, [01:02:00] um, amongst all these experts and I, and I don't, and, and I guess it does bother me because it's like every one of those people have learned something from me and my shows that they made their own.

[01:02:17] And then they would tell other people I'm an expert. See, I know all this stuff. Nobody ever says. Yeah, I learned about it on superhuman radio, like oxytocin right now, oxytocin. I happen to know that since I did the oxytocin show, that oxytocin is the most anabolic peptide we know of oxytocin sales for every peptide company out there has gone through the roof.

[01:02:40] And you can bet that those peptide experts. Are listening to the show, reading the research that I referred to and now they're making it their own. Well, I'm an expert I know about oxytocin. Nobody ever goes back and says, man, Carlin doors, the guy who's been talking about this for 15, I'm sorry. I'm going to [01:03:00] curse fucking years.

[01:03:03] Like, you know, I, when I, when I, when I. When I say something that isn't my own, I usually credit the person. Like I'll say Ron Penna is the one who said to me that what you removed from your diet is more important than what you add to your diet. I always try to credit the person and maybe that's my mistake.

[01:03:23] Maybe that's why people go. He's not an expert. He's learning this stuff from everybody else. Where are they learning it from? They weren't born knowing this stuff. They learned it from somebody else too.

[01:03:32] Coach Rob Regish: [01:03:32] Yeah. You know, it brings up the question, what is a true expert in this field and for my money that is, and always has been someone that uses it day in and day out has done their own research and practical application.

[01:03:52] I can tell you. Uh, I knew there was, uh, there was one medical doctor that I got into it once online. [01:04:00] He's a doctor. Right. He's got to know about these steroid things. And he says to me, Clenbuterol is the most dangerous steroid out there.

[01:04:08] Carl Lanore: [01:04:08] He thought it was a steroid

[01:04:10] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:10] beyond the fact that he couldn't even spell the drug's name correctly.

[01:04:15] He thought Clenbuterol and asthma medication was, was steroids,

[01:04:20] Carl Lanore: [01:04:20] Hitachi, and Andrew anergic, uh, uh, uh, agonist. I mean just tagging antagonistic antagonizes, the adrenal receptor.

[01:04:31] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:31] And so I'm sure though, to the general population, well, maybe it agonizes, I'm

[01:04:36] Carl Lanore: [01:04:36] sorry if I get that wrong. Sorry. I didn't mean,

[01:04:38] Coach Rob Regish: [01:04:38] okay.

[01:04:38] The point is it provided similar to a steroid is a zucchini. Yeah. I'm sure. To the majority of the population, they would look at that doctor, uh, as a quote unquote expert, instead of let's say Dan Dushane who used every drug under the sun. Um, and [01:05:00] then eventually wrote about it one quick story, and then I'll let it go when they were prosecuted.

[01:05:06] And, uh, Dan Dushane in federal court, uh, the government, one of the government's witnesses, steroid experts, so to speak was on the stand. And when Duchenne's lawyer, cross-examined them, he asked him, he says, where'd you learn all your stuff on steroids. The prosecutor's job dropped when he looked over at Dushane and he pointed to him and he said, I read his books.

[01:05:32] Right. So it's true story, you know, that's true expert, not always, right. They often learn things the hard way, but that's a real thing.

[01:05:43] Carl Lanore: [01:05:43] And the truth of the matter is the study. So I had done a show one week that showed that oxytocin. Reverses osteoporosis in women with a doctor from Brazil, she was very hard to [01:06:00] understand, but the study was profound.

[01:06:01] They took a very Actimize road. And so we knew it wasn't the estrogen and they gave them oxytocin and their bone . And you know, so then the following week Kirkland more lady is the one who sent me the study that shows that trend bologne elicits a 50. Fold increase in tissue and blood oxytocin. And I said to him, this makes oxytocin the most anabolic peptide in the world.

[01:06:30] It builds bone, it builds muscle. We know that it builds the brain Dr. Yert and I talked about it, uh, effects on, on the brain. It's like I named it, the human reward. Hormone, because when you do the right things and that's have lots of sex and love, lots of people, you, you, you oxytocin goes through the roof and they're rewarding you for being a human.

[01:06:55] Because the number one job that we have is to have [01:07:00] babies from a species that's job. One, nothing else matters, but having babies and that's it. Um, so, so oxytocin is the human reward heart. And the truth of the matter is the reason that Anthony Roberts came on the show and talked about, um, peptides.

[01:07:17] Because at that point in time, there was no one else qualified. Anthony had just published the quintessential, uh, anabolic steroid book, anabolic steroid ultimate research guide, and he talked about growth, hormone and peptides in the book. Even though it was about anabolic steroids. And so, so the truth of the matter is that Anthony Roberts and I are the Lewis and Clark of peptides.

[01:07:44] We burnt the path to the West and everybody followed us. It took credit for getting

[01:07:49] Coach Rob Regish: [01:07:49] there, like fiduciary, right?

[01:07:52] Carl Lanore: [01:07:52] Oh, I introduced for dojo aggress this, uh, I found some obscure study in the, uh, the, the, um, [01:08:00] uh, Asian journal of andrology. About a guy named Marie, a guy named dr. Toy on your Kubo at the university of Elora in Lauren, Nigeria who published this study that showed that for doji a raised testosterone level in humans and rodents.

[01:08:17] It had been used for thousands of years in Africa as a, uh, as a libido builder and an a, and a, uh, fertility drug for men. And it was a plant. It grows in, in, in Southern Africa. And next thing, you know, next thing, you know, four different companies put for dojo in their product. Like if I was, if I was Dr.

[01:08:40] Joe Mercola, I would have waited to import the stuff and then I would have done the show.

[01:08:45] Coach Rob Regish: [01:08:45] Yeah. And how many royalties do you get for that?

[01:08:48] Carl Lanore: [01:08:48] Yeah. Yeah. I got royalties. I got this. I didn't even get a thank you. Nobody. Even nobody even referred to me. They never said, Hey, we learned about it. Anthony Roberts is the one that wrote that everybody learned about [01:09:00] fedora on my show.

[01:09:00] He's Oh, one thing about Anthony. He has always, he hasn't always agreed with me, but he has always written when I was, you served. Or underestimated or pushed to the side, uh, by, but the majority of people he's always wrote about he wrote, or he wrote about the fact that I came up with the dojo and then I came up with another one that was the same doctor, uh, doctor toy on Yakubu.

[01:09:28] That ended up going into a product that, um, that, uh, Matt, uh, what's his name? The guy who came out with craze, he created a product. He advertised on my show out of courtesy because he knew that I discovered that herb that was in his product. It was an aromatase inhibitor.

[01:09:46] Coach Rob Regish: [01:09:46] Yep. Yeah. And, and you know what, uh, that happens a lot.

[01:09:51] Unfortunately, hopefully Anthony writes about this because he's been part of that story since day one. So

[01:09:58] Carl Lanore: [01:09:58] he's going to be on the anniversary show. He was [01:10:00] the first guest I dedicated an entire hour or two before that I used to do two to three interviews in one

[01:10:05] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:05] hour.

[01:10:06] Carl Lanore: [01:10:06] But when, when we started talking about peptides and they were peptide shows, he came on, we talked.

[01:10:11] About one thing for the whole hour. Cause I saw peptides. I thought these things are interesting. Very interesting. And uh, but yeah, I'm not a peptide expert. I'll never be called upon by any of these schmucks that called themselves peptide experts. Dr. Betsy earth is the only one. The truth of the matter is that gives me credit.

[01:10:30] You know, she was at an IPS convey in Sanford peptides of society, convention, and she, and several of her slides. She quoted me. I was, I was flattered. I was taken back. I couldn't believe it. It was my name. She said, you know, Carla Norris said this about this peptide and she's the only one that's actually ever, uh, uh, put, put a flashlight on me.

[01:10:53] Coach Rob Regish: [01:10:53] Yeah. You know what, to her, to her credit then there's not many people like that. That will do that. Yeah. Not [01:11:00] many,

[01:11:00] Carl Lanore: [01:11:00] but anyway, I am not a peptide expert. I am a trailblazer. That's all right. So that's all I wanted to get there off my chest because you know, the, the 18th of this month, we're doing our 15 year anniversary show and I've seen a lot of people come and go, you know, spikes, all set the world on fire, and then they're gone and you know, Oh, today they're doing this and I don't want to mention any names, but there was a guy that used to be in the, uh, health and fitness podcast segment.

[01:11:30] And then one day he woke up and decided Dom, I'm going to be in the wealth, wealth building segment. Yeah. I'm going to start talking about Bitcoin and investing. And, and when he exited the segment, he said, there's nothing new to talk about in health and fitness. And I thought you gotta be joking, right?

[01:11:47] Like every day there's so I didn't know, but he wasn't, he wasn't making the money he wanted in this segment. And he figured if he did a show about investing. People would spend more money with him because you're talking about building [01:12:00] wealth. People got to spend a lot more money learning about building wealth than they are about building their bodies.

[01:12:05] Unfortunately, that's the reality. It's an unfortunate reality, but so, yup. Yup. I'll still be here 15 years from now.

[01:12:15] Coach Rob Regish: [01:12:15] All right.

[01:12:15] Carl Lanore: [01:12:15] And I, and I'll still, won't be an expert in anything.

[01:12:19] Coach Rob Regish: [01:12:19] So there you go. We can, we can look back and laugh.

[01:12:22] Carl Lanore: [01:12:22] Yeah, we will laugh. We will. So staying power is a, is an important thing. I look, uh, thanks for being here.

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