[00:00:00] Anthony Roberts: [00:00:00] Hey, Hey, welcome back to another episode of human

[00:00:03] Carl Lanore: [00:00:03] radio. This is a special show today. This is our 15 year

[00:00:05] Anthony Roberts: [00:00:05] anniversary show. I'm being joined by TLA T the lovely and talented Elisa Profumo today. Uh, for this show,

[00:00:13] Carl Lanore: [00:00:13] she's going to kind of interview me, uh, before we get started with any of that sort of stuff.

[00:00:17] Of course, we always have to thank our

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[00:00:21] Carl Lanore: [00:00:21] and that is legendary foods, right? They have really Ron Penna.

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[00:00:32] Carl Lanore: [00:00:32] at least.

[00:00:33] Anthony Roberts: [00:00:33] Um,

[00:00:34] Carl Lanore: [00:00:34] I can't say enough. When he was with quest,

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[00:00:51] Carl Lanore: [00:00:51] Don't forget to try the new blueberry or hot fudge sundae. Uh, tasty pastries are basically they're Pop-Tarts, uh, with zero sugar and [00:01:00] 15 grams of high quality protein. And not overladen with fiber. I

[00:01:04] Anthony Roberts: [00:01:04] love these things.

[00:01:05] They're fantastic.

[00:01:06] Carl Lanore: [00:01:06] The kids love them. They don't even know they're eating something good. So

[00:01:09] Anthony Roberts: [00:01:09] check them out. Um, and, uh, that's that,

[00:01:12] Carl Lanore: [00:01:12] um, Before we get started another person, you know, there's so many people that have contributed to this show. I get to sit up here

[00:01:20] Anthony Roberts: [00:01:20] and look like,

[00:01:21] Carl Lanore: [00:01:21] Oh, Carl, you're amazing, Carl, you know, so much Carl, you, you know, you do, but really, I, I am just the pinnacle of, uh, of the efforts of many, many people.

[00:01:31] Those who work. Uh, here at super yum radio, but you, the listeners influence shows you influenced directions. You, this is a democratic podcast. Everybody gets to contribute. Everybody who wants to contribute, gets to contribute. Billy Mitchell is a good friend of ours. Elisa. You've known Billy how long now?

[00:01:52] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:01:52] Probably about 30 years.

[00:01:53] Carl Lanore: [00:01:53] And I probably know him about,

[00:01:55] Anthony Roberts: [00:01:55] um,

[00:01:56] Carl Lanore: [00:01:56] Maybe 16 or 17 years [00:02:00] Billy's

[00:02:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:02:00] who introduced us.

[00:02:02] Carl Lanore: [00:02:02] Yes, he actually  us. That's right.

[00:02:04] Anthony Roberts: [00:02:04] He introduced us.

[00:02:05] Carl Lanore: [00:02:05] And also, you know, he's the guy who told me about, Hey, you gotta check out

[00:02:09] Anthony Roberts: [00:02:09] LL three seven. And

[00:02:11] Carl Lanore: [00:02:11] like he's given me insights into things because I can't read and be everywhere all the time, but I have a responsibility to be so that I bring content.

[00:02:19] That's good. So this morning we were talking and he said, you know, I have an old zoom. MP3 player. When, when, when, uh, Microsoft tried to compete with the iPod,

[00:02:30] Anthony Roberts: [00:02:30] he goes, and I have every one of your

[00:02:32] Carl Lanore: [00:02:32] old shows on there. And I even go back and listen to them

[00:02:34] Anthony Roberts: [00:02:34] sometimes

[00:02:35] Carl Lanore: [00:02:35] just to see if it's still relevant. And he said, you should stop playing all those old shows because

[00:02:40] Anthony Roberts: [00:02:40] all that stuff

[00:02:41] Carl Lanore: [00:02:41] is the same.

[00:02:42] So he said to me this morning, I said, you know, the audience has grown so much. He said, I wonder if any of them have ever heard your original intro? Now you never heard it, right? I played a few this morning.

[00:02:56] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:02:56] No, I had never heard it. I was, it was [00:03:00] interesting.

[00:03:00] Carl Lanore: [00:03:00] Yeah, it was right. So look,

[00:03:02] Anthony Roberts: [00:03:02] I'm

[00:03:03] Carl Lanore: [00:03:03] doing this show on WK JK 10 80

[00:03:05] Anthony Roberts: [00:03:05] am.

[00:03:06] It's my first ever go at this. I wasn't planning on doing this. This was something that just kind of evolved. And, um,

[00:03:14] Carl Lanore: [00:03:14] I had to come up with an intro. And so I thought since the show was called super human radio and the guy who named the show is

[00:03:21] Anthony Roberts: [00:03:21] going beyond. And just a second, my good friend, Jesse Rivest.

[00:03:26] Carl Lanore: [00:03:26] And I figured I got to come up with a name that has something to do with superhuman. And I thought, I wonder if I could use the old Superman intro and this sounds so corny, but so many people loved it.

[00:03:37] Anthony Roberts: [00:03:37] I'm going to play it for you. Now listen to this.

[00:03:39] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:03:39] It sounds like one of the commercials from the fifties.

[00:03:41] Anthony Roberts: [00:03:41] Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[00:03:55] Carl Lanore: [00:03:55] superhuman radio superhuman radio visitor from [00:04:00] another planet who came to work with powers and abilities far beyond goals. Superhuman radio

[00:04:14] reporter for a great mentor of ours, the newspaper never ending

[00:04:25] Anthony Roberts: [00:04:25] That was the original entrance. That was it. That's how it went and that's how it all started.

[00:04:33] Carl Lanore: [00:04:33] I used that for about a year and a half. And then Dan Solomon, who had a bodybuilding

[00:04:39] Anthony Roberts: [00:04:39] radio show also, um, said to me, Carl, man,

[00:04:43] Carl Lanore: [00:04:43] I love your show. He goes, but that

[00:04:45] Anthony Roberts: [00:04:45] intro

[00:04:46] Carl Lanore: [00:04:46] has to go.

[00:04:47] Anthony Roberts: [00:04:47] You need something that

[00:04:48] Carl Lanore: [00:04:48] sounds more polished, more professional.

[00:04:50] And that's what I went to will Adams. And he made

[00:04:52] Anthony Roberts: [00:04:52] the current intro.

[00:04:56] Carl Lanore: [00:04:56] Interesting. It's so it's so poorly dubbed, [00:05:00] like you could hear break

[00:05:01] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:01] in and break out

[00:05:02] Carl Lanore: [00:05:02] of me going super human radio, super human radio.

[00:05:05] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:05] So that was it. It's it's pretty funny. Yeah. So, um,

[00:05:11] Carl Lanore: [00:05:11] let's go

[00:05:11] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:11] now and bring, uh, another person on. So hold on.

[00:05:14] I gotta, I I'm doing this. I'm going to drop that and I'm going to bring Jesse Riverstone. How are you doing Jesse?

[00:05:21] Jesse Rivest: [00:05:21] Hey guys. What's up.

[00:05:23] Carl Lanore: [00:05:23] Alyssa. Can you hear Jesse? Okay. Elisa,

[00:05:26] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:26] not really. Can you hear anything he's breaking up? Okay.

[00:05:31] Carl Lanore: [00:05:31] Well, we'll

[00:05:33] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:33] make the best of it. I don't know how to adjust that because

[00:05:35] Carl Lanore: [00:05:35] Alisa's

[00:05:35] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:35] on her, on her iPhone because her laptop wouldn't have let her log into the

[00:05:39] Carl Lanore: [00:05:39] stream yard.

[00:05:40] So Jesse and I used to work for

[00:05:42] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:42] a company called Visalia and we traveled a lot together. And

[00:05:47] Carl Lanore: [00:05:47] we

[00:05:48] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:48] trained a lot together. In

[00:05:49] Carl Lanore: [00:05:49] fact, we would spend a lot of time training instead of working because we love to lift weights. Right. I mean, Jesse, I know that you said you're going to start hitting it again. You kind of let it slide

[00:05:58] Anthony Roberts: [00:05:58] right.

[00:06:00] [00:06:00] Jesse Rivest: [00:06:00] Yeah, well, you know, we would travel and train and train and travel. Right. That was, that was what we did. I tore my ACL this year. So unfortunately it kind of set me back a little bit, um, you know, took on, you know, the passion of mine. Basketball has always been a fun, took it outside because of COVID and, you know, just.

[00:06:18] It was humbling experience. I'm an old man. Now

[00:06:21] Anthony Roberts: [00:06:21] Chris young

[00:06:22] Jesse Rivest: [00:06:22] is when we were traveling around,

[00:06:24] Carl Lanore: [00:06:24] you need to start listening to the shuttle gun. So Jesse, so when I told Jesse, so Hey, he and I worked for this company by

[00:06:30] Anthony Roberts: [00:06:30] Sonic

[00:06:31] Carl Lanore: [00:06:31] and I said, I'm going to start doing a radio show. And I think he kind of got a Chuck ladder, but he took it seriously.

[00:06:37] And see, he says, what are you going to call it? I said, I don't know. And we had like six or seven different words. We were massaging around. And I said, you know, um, there's a, uh, a real popular show back then called scuba radio. And Jesse said, how about

[00:06:53] Anthony Roberts: [00:06:53] superhuman radio? It was

[00:06:56] Carl Lanore: [00:06:56] like that. I said, that's it. I said, that's it.

[00:06:59] I'm going to use it. And [00:07:00] that's how we, I think we were Florida someplace. Uh, when you, yeah,

[00:07:03] Jesse Rivest: [00:07:03] yeah. We, we were in Florida, um, making fun of an old boss that, uh, you know, we won't, we won't get into that separate, separate podcast, but, you know, we were just, you know, traveling around and doing superhuman things.

[00:07:15] So, you know, Carl and I, that's what we did get the road and, um, it made sense. You know, on the podcast you were working on and building and all of your research and everything that you were passionate about, you really wanted to make human beings the best that they possibly could with science and, you know, superhuman.

[00:07:33] Right. Whatever else. Um, It's funny. Cause you, you played the original opening to your show and I, I remember, and I remember being a good friend and saying that it was a good opening.

[00:07:45] Anthony Roberts: [00:07:45] Yeah, yeah.

[00:07:46] Carl Lanore: [00:07:46] Right. Cause it really, it kind of suck, but Jesse didn't want me to be self-conscious

[00:07:50] Anthony Roberts: [00:07:50] that the hope that the intro music suck as a true friend, does he just wants to put wind in my sails.

[00:07:56] Carl Lanore: [00:07:56] And so let's talk briefly about our training. So when we [00:08:00] travel into different cities, We would like scare some of the people at the gym. I don't think anybody. I was probably at my straw then.

[00:08:08] Anthony Roberts: [00:08:08] Um, I was, I was at my strongest. There's no doubt about it.

[00:08:13] Carl Lanore: [00:08:13] We would go to gyms and, you know, for four 85, you know, 500 pound dead lifts for reps.

[00:08:19] Anthony Roberts: [00:08:19] And I remember in the bank and let and let the ball fall

[00:08:22] Carl Lanore: [00:08:22] and people would look around and a lot of these gyms were like health club type

[00:08:25] Anthony Roberts: [00:08:25] gyms. Right.

[00:08:26] Jesse Rivest: [00:08:26] Yeah. I mean, you know, if, if anyone on the podcast travels, you know that when you hit the road and you try to find a spot to work out, there's, you know, it's not always the home gym environment.

[00:08:38] It's, you know, places that, you know, You, we walk in there and they're they're planet fitness type locations. Right. And you go in there and your, your training and your building and you're throwing weight around. And some guys are like, Ooh, that first of all, they never seen me before. You're the new guy in the gym.

[00:08:56] Right. And you're making these, uh, these noises and you're [00:09:00] pushing each other. Cause you're passionate about what you're doing. And yeah, we got some interesting looks then, um, You know, we made friends, but more importantly, we made enemies.

[00:09:08] Anthony Roberts: [00:09:08] Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And we listened to our rap music. Very, very loud.

[00:09:12] Right.

[00:09:13] Carl Lanore: [00:09:13] Tupac and biggie and all the, I mean, this is like 16, 17 years ago. And both actually Jesse had written some lyrics that were very, very good. In fact, I used to call him Jay Z because his lyrics were so good. I thought, well, maybe someday he'll, uh, he'll make some music, but yeah, we, we had a blast and it was all about training.

[00:09:32] Right? Once we got to a town, we had to

[00:09:34] Anthony Roberts: [00:09:34] find out where the gym was and we had to get there.

[00:09:37] Jesse Rivest: [00:09:37] You know, it's funny you call because, you know, back when we were hitting the road, there were no such thing as memes. Right? And now they, now they make memes that were literally Carl and I, the two white guys in the car and going to work, listening to the hardest rap music known to man bobbing our heads.

[00:09:59] Carl Lanore: [00:09:59] It was [00:10:00] great. It was great. I got it. Thank you.

[00:10:03] Anthony Roberts: [00:10:03] What's

[00:10:03] Carl Lanore: [00:10:03] that you'd like to see that

[00:10:05] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:10:05] you'd like to see that.

[00:10:06] Anthony Roberts: [00:10:06] No, you wouldn't,

[00:10:08] Carl Lanore: [00:10:08] you wouldn't be.

[00:10:09] Jesse Rivest: [00:10:09] I, I mean, I owe Carla visit cause it's been way too long and maybe we'll, we'll get up in a, an old beater car and we'll play some rap music for you.

[00:10:18] Carl Lanore: [00:10:18] We'll play some, some Tupac.

[00:10:20] He's the best. So, um, I got a thank you. I got it.

[00:10:23] Anthony Roberts: [00:10:23] Thank you for a few things. I got to thank you for naming the show. First of all, cause the name stuck, um, And

[00:10:29] Carl Lanore: [00:10:29] I got it. Thank you for, you know, uh, you and I were nine to fivers back then and I was going to start doing this show and, and you always said, yeah, do it, man.

[00:10:38] Like, no, that's great. Like, like you said, you're joking right now, but it's true when you heard that intro the first time, you know, you probably thought to yourself, man, I'm going to let this guy,

[00:10:47] Anthony Roberts: [00:10:47] you know, my boy go

[00:10:48] Carl Lanore: [00:10:48] out there and get slaughtered if he uses that. But you knew that if you, if you told me something

[00:10:53] Anthony Roberts: [00:10:53] negative, I was probably going to not do it.

[00:10:56] Jesse Rivest: [00:10:56] Yeah. It, it was like you said, we were [00:11:00] nine to fivers career career guys, and you know, it was, it was one of those things where like, Is he serious right now, he's going to do a podcast and, and, you know, think about 15 years ago. It wasn't as prevalent as it is today with podcasts. It's not, you know, now everyone has a podcast, you've got a podcast about knitting, you've got a podcast about, you know, any, any, anything and everything.

[00:11:24] And you know, he also chose a subject that. Was, you know, a little bit controversial at the time, too, you know, especially with some of the people he would, they were like, you want to do a podcast about working out Carl, like

[00:11:38] Carl Lanore: [00:11:38] you're going to give up

[00:11:39] Jesse Rivest: [00:11:39] your career because of it,

[00:11:41] Anthony Roberts: [00:11:41] your size Carl.

[00:11:42] Jesse Rivest: [00:11:42] So it, you know, there's a lot of naysayers, but I mean, look, I just knew how passionate you were about it.

[00:11:49] And I knew how good you are at doing the research. And putting in the effort and work that it takes to be good at being, you know, involved in this kind of a thing. So, you know, look in the back [00:12:00] of my mind, I'm like, man, am I going to have to be sending this guy money?

[00:12:03] Carl Lanore: [00:12:03] Food.

[00:12:07] Jessie knows how I eat

[00:12:08] Anthony Roberts: [00:12:08] too. That's a big

[00:12:09] Carl Lanore: [00:12:09] deal.

[00:12:10] Anthony Roberts: [00:12:10] I'm like,

[00:12:10] Jesse Rivest: [00:12:10] I don't, I don't know. Well, if I can afford to do that, Carl, so can you make this thing work?

[00:12:16] Carl Lanore: [00:12:16] So now I got ask you something. I never even thought about this. So you were just talking. So did did, uh, when, when I exited the company we worked for did, uh, our two top supervisors who we worked with directly, the president of the U S subsidiary and the vice president of sales,

[00:12:32] Anthony Roberts: [00:12:32] colorful guys.

[00:12:33] Carl Lanore: [00:12:33] Did they ever say to you this guy's crazy? What is he thinking?

[00:12:37] Jesse Rivest: [00:12:37] This is a great question. And I'm glad that you're asking it because I actually. I, I, I would've, I wish I'd thought of this on my own because they, and I don't think we ever had this conversation.

[00:12:48] Carl Lanore: [00:12:48] No

[00:12:48] Jesse Rivest: [00:12:48] Lloyd, did they have some color commentary Carl, about, about you first of all, do you remember?

[00:12:54] You know, you were very passionate, you'd go into meetings and you'd carry around your, your water.

[00:12:59] Anthony Roberts: [00:12:59] Do you remember?

[00:13:00] [00:13:00] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:00] You'd have, you'd have your down on the water.

[00:13:04] Anthony Roberts: [00:13:04] Yeah.

[00:13:05] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:05] So the comments started with, you know, this guy,

[00:13:09] Anthony Roberts: [00:13:09] you know, first of all,

[00:13:10] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:10] Why is he always have a gallon of water? You know, like, why is he always thirsty?

[00:13:15] Like Kenny, he can't stay hydrated. Doesn't he know that if he drinks a gallon of water is going to go to the bathroom

[00:13:21] Carl Lanore: [00:13:21] all day long.

[00:13:22] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:22] So, you know, first it started there with the two people that we're talking about, you know, exactly their mindset. And then it went like

[00:13:29] Anthony Roberts: [00:13:29] this. Guy's just crazy.

[00:13:30] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:30] He's thrown away his entire career to go

[00:13:33] Carl Lanore: [00:13:33] on radio.

[00:13:34] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:34] And Carl, we all know that you have a face for radio. So that part was

[00:13:38] Anthony Roberts: [00:13:38] perfect. Right, right,

[00:13:40] Carl Lanore: [00:13:40] right. No, you're right. You're right.

[00:13:43] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:43] But um, no, the, the, the jokes, you know, the jokes weren't jokes, they were seriously not, they thought you were an idiot,

[00:13:51] Anthony Roberts: [00:13:51] quite honest.

[00:13:52] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:52] They're like, there's no way it's gonna work. Um, you know, he's throwing this up away.

[00:13:56] He's,

[00:13:56] Anthony Roberts: [00:13:56] you know, how's

[00:13:57] Jesse Rivest: [00:13:57] he going to find a job when, you know, he takes a year off. [00:14:00] And you know what this is, this is just 15 years later, you continue to prove them wrong. And I love it. I mean, I love it. No, I, I, I'm very happy for you. Um, I know how much you love this and it's just, it, it's exciting for me to see that you've taken a hobby and turn it into a career and, and did it, not only because you're talented at this, but you did it because you were willing to put in the work.

[00:14:29] Um, when a lot of people thought it couldn't be done, you just prove them wrong. So, you know, everyone let's applause Carl, 15 years come on. And this is, this is an achievement. I mean, 15 years at anything is an achievement.

[00:14:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:14:43] Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Jesse. Thank you.

[00:14:45] Carl Lanore: [00:14:45] And we, it hasn't been too long.

[00:14:47] Anthony Roberts: [00:14:47] We do have to get back together again.

[00:14:48] We got to hang out. So let's plan a

[00:14:50] Carl Lanore: [00:14:50] 5,021. Hopefully the COVID monster will recede

[00:14:55] Anthony Roberts: [00:14:55] and, uh, we'll be able to start traveling around and visiting people again.

[00:14:59] Jesse Rivest: [00:14:59] Absolutely.

[00:15:00] [00:15:00] Anthony Roberts: [00:15:00] No, absolutely. Thank you for being here, brother. I love you, man.

[00:15:03] Jesse Rivest: [00:15:03] You too nice meeting you. And hopefully one day we'll we'll meet in person.

[00:15:08] And um, thank you for having me. This is my first time on a podcast.

[00:15:12] Carl Lanore: [00:15:12] Hopefully not my last, no, you know, what's going to happen.

[00:15:17] Anthony Roberts: [00:15:17] Jesse is going to start his own podcast. Now watch,

[00:15:22] Jesse Rivest: [00:15:22] I mean, I. I wouldn't say that. That's not a possibility.

[00:15:29] Anthony Roberts: [00:15:29] Hi brother. Thanks for being here, man. I'll talk to you later.

[00:15:32] Jesse Rivest: [00:15:32] Oh man. Take care.

[00:15:33] Anthony Roberts: [00:15:33] Bye. Bye. It's wonderful.

[00:15:35] Carl Lanore: [00:15:35] Yeah. You know, I always wondered if the,

[00:15:37] Anthony Roberts: [00:15:37] my old employer, um, joked or made comments about me and. It was one guy, one guy that Jesse and I just call the guy who hated facial hair.

[00:15:48] Cause Jesse used to have a beard and he was always going to Jesse and go,

[00:15:52] Carl Lanore: [00:15:52] you got to shave that beard, man. You gotta get rid of that beard.

[00:15:55] Anthony Roberts: [00:15:55] They were just weird. They were weird people.

[00:15:57] Carl Lanore: [00:15:57] Anyway, you have some questions for me. I've [00:16:00] got some things to, but it would be good time

[00:16:01] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:16:01] to ask the first question.

[00:16:03] Anthony Roberts: [00:16:03] Yes.

[00:16:04] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:16:04] So we, as you mentioned earlier, we have a lot of new listeners. So some of these listeners may not know your story and how you got into podcasting. So I'd like for you to share that with your listeners now.

[00:16:17] Carl Lanore: [00:16:17] Okay. So,

[00:16:18] Anthony Roberts: [00:16:18] um, When I was working for that company that Jesse and I were working for, I got very sick.

[00:16:23] Carl Lanore: [00:16:23] First of all, I was 330 pounds. And, and you know what I'm going to do while I'm talking about this, Natalie, Kopecky

[00:16:32] Anthony Roberts: [00:16:32] our

[00:16:32] Carl Lanore: [00:16:32] director of communications and who, the person who's made this show look so much

[00:16:37] Anthony Roberts: [00:16:37] better recently.

[00:16:39] Carl Lanore: [00:16:39] Uh, yeah, she, she made this little collage, so we'll let this run while I'm

[00:16:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:16:43] talking. So that's a young me,

[00:16:46] Carl Lanore: [00:16:46] and that was me advice, Sonic, uh, I, I got up to 330 pounds.

[00:16:50] I carried it well because I'm, you know, physically a big

[00:16:53] Anthony Roberts: [00:16:53] guy.

[00:16:54] Carl Lanore: [00:16:54] Uh, but the reality was that I was very, very sick. I had developed a [00:17:00] unique

[00:17:00] Anthony Roberts: [00:17:00] rhythm issue

[00:17:02] Carl Lanore: [00:17:02] with my heart and at 39, the conversation was. Pacemaker

[00:17:07] Anthony Roberts: [00:17:07] for me.

[00:17:09] Carl Lanore: [00:17:09] And I became very depressed. And the actually that's when I went to work,

[00:17:13] Anthony Roberts: [00:17:13] uh, for vice Sonic,

[00:17:14] Carl Lanore: [00:17:14] because

[00:17:15] Anthony Roberts: [00:17:15] I sold my alarm company, got rid of all

[00:17:17] Carl Lanore: [00:17:17] of the headache and overhead of running my business.

[00:17:20] And so I'm just going to go to work for somebody else

[00:17:23] Anthony Roberts: [00:17:23] and be done with it.

[00:17:25] Carl Lanore: [00:17:25] And so I did, I did that

[00:17:28] Anthony Roberts: [00:17:28] and met

[00:17:29] Carl Lanore: [00:17:29] Jesse and we worked for this company, but I continued to be very unhappy.

[00:17:33] Anthony Roberts: [00:17:33] And, uh, my unhappiness

[00:17:35] Carl Lanore: [00:17:35] manifested in me eating. And once I got the 330 pounds, I had developed this hard

[00:17:40] Anthony Roberts: [00:17:40] problem. And, uh, and I realized that 39 years old, I mean, my life was not,

[00:17:45] Carl Lanore: [00:17:45] it was going to be shortened dramatically.

[00:17:47] And I had healthy parents. I had parents that lived into their mid eighties and they didn't do everything right. If they had done things, right, they'd be lived into their hundreds probably. And I thought, what did I do wrong? And I, I wanted [00:18:00] answers. I didn't want pills from my doctor.

[00:18:03] Anthony Roberts: [00:18:03] I wanted real answers.

[00:18:05] Carl Lanore: [00:18:05] And so what ended up happening was I couldn't get real answers because people who, the only people out there that had any kind of information

[00:18:16] Anthony Roberts: [00:18:16] were just mainstream doctors.

[00:18:19] Carl Lanore: [00:18:19] So I've found back then a message board. This is

[00:18:21] Anthony Roberts: [00:18:21] before, um,

[00:18:24] Carl Lanore: [00:18:24] you know, Facebook and.

[00:18:26] Anthony Roberts: [00:18:26] And other

[00:18:26] Carl Lanore: [00:18:26] platforms where people could communicate, there were like strings of

[00:18:29] Anthony Roberts: [00:18:29] emails is what they were.

[00:18:31] Carl Lanore: [00:18:31] And I found these message boards and they will for doctors. And I joined, I

[00:18:36] Anthony Roberts: [00:18:36] lied and said I was a doctor. And

[00:18:38] Carl Lanore: [00:18:38] no one asks you for credentials. They just, you just had to have a,

[00:18:41] Anthony Roberts: [00:18:41] an email address.

[00:18:42] Carl Lanore: [00:18:42] I created a fake email addresses of

[00:18:44] Anthony Roberts: [00:18:44] Tom Johnson, and I said, I was a doctor.

[00:18:48] Carl Lanore: [00:18:48] And so I was able to read these messages about different studies that were being published.

[00:18:52] There was no searchable database, like pub med back then. And I was interested in anything that had to do with

[00:19:00] [00:19:00] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:00] rebuilding my heart. Like I, I

[00:19:02] Carl Lanore: [00:19:02] dug also, well that's later, I have a profoundly

[00:19:07] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:07] fantastic book that a Mussa gave me as a gift. Um, it's a, it's everything you want to know about the heart.

[00:19:13] Carl Lanore: [00:19:13] It's huge.

[00:19:15] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:15] But anyway, um,

[00:19:17] Carl Lanore: [00:19:17] so I, I started to read the posts that they were making about hearts and, and new studies that were coming out. And I realized. One of the studies that was discussed was the, a study that

[00:19:29] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:29] showed that, uh, that, uh,

[00:19:31] Carl Lanore: [00:19:31] weightlifters, they could just call them weightlifters.

[00:19:34] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:34] I'm assuming it's more like Olympic lifters,

[00:19:36] Carl Lanore: [00:19:36] uh, developed,

[00:19:38] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:38] uh,

[00:19:38] Carl Lanore: [00:19:38] a unique type of hypertrophy of the heart.

[00:19:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:43] Where the hardest, stronger, not

[00:19:45] Carl Lanore: [00:19:45] weaker because most hypertrophy is

[00:19:46] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:46] associated with a path, a pathogenic, uh, problem where the heart is getting sick. And I thought, Hmm,

[00:19:53] Carl Lanore: [00:19:53] they actually, and the word remodeling

[00:19:55] Anthony Roberts: [00:19:55] came up remodeling, like how they, their,

[00:19:58] Carl Lanore: [00:19:58] their heart is remodeled. [00:20:00] That's

[00:20:00] Anthony Roberts: [00:20:00] what I want to

[00:20:00] Carl Lanore: [00:20:00] do. I want to remodel my heart.

[00:20:02] And so that gave rise to

[00:20:06] Anthony Roberts: [00:20:06] learning about weightlifting. I thought,

[00:20:08] Carl Lanore: [00:20:08] well, if, if weightlifters. Can remodel their heart to make it stronger than surely I could do that at least to fix it. Maybe not be as strong as a weightlifter, and I'll never forget telling my doctor Jim Swift, I'm going to start weightlifting.

[00:20:21] And he said, just make sure your life insurance is up to date. You don't want to leave your family in alert. That's a

[00:20:28] Anthony Roberts: [00:20:28] supportive

[00:20:28] Carl Lanore: [00:20:28] compliment, isn't it? Yes. We ran into him one night at a restaurant

[00:20:33] Anthony Roberts: [00:20:33] a long time ago at martinis. And I told you doctor, he was a little frail looking guy, but anyway, nice guy. I liked them,

[00:20:40] Carl Lanore: [00:20:40] but that's how weightlifting became important to me.

[00:20:43] And then I learned about physical culture and then it just blossomed into what it is today, but I knew I needed a

[00:20:50] Anthony Roberts: [00:20:50] podcast. Because

[00:20:52] Carl Lanore: [00:20:52] I want them to interview the scientists that were publishing these studies. They're not going to take a call from

[00:20:56] Anthony Roberts: [00:20:56] Carla nor traveling salesman for vice Sonic.

[00:20:59] Carl Lanore: [00:20:59] But [00:21:00] if it's Carla Nore host of this podcast, then I got a shot and sure enough, it worked because all these, these different sciences were willing to talk to me to be on the show at the same time.

[00:21:11] So this show evolved out of my. Desire to save my own life and access information that was

[00:21:18] Anthony Roberts: [00:21:18] unaccessible by the general public,

[00:21:21] Carl Lanore: [00:21:21] very selfish beginnings.

[00:21:22] Anthony Roberts: [00:21:22] When you think about

[00:21:24] Carl Lanore: [00:21:24] not necessarily,

[00:21:25] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:21:25] no, I think it's great that you wanted to help other people

[00:21:28] Carl Lanore: [00:21:28] well, that, and that's where the show is now. Back then, I

[00:21:31] Anthony Roberts: [00:21:31] didn't care about other people.

[00:21:32] I just cared about me not dying at that time.

[00:21:36] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:21:36] So, so who are a couple of the people who have helped you, um, on your podcasting journey?

[00:21:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:21:43] Oh, my God. So

[00:21:44] Carl Lanore: [00:21:44] many. I mean, so many people have helped me, you know, they help is a very, very

[00:21:50] Anthony Roberts: [00:21:50] broad term.

[00:21:52] Carl Lanore: [00:21:52] Did they help me by sending me information about a study? Well, there's

[00:21:56] Anthony Roberts: [00:21:56] literally thousands of listeners out there who have helped me and [00:22:00] continue to help me.

[00:22:01] Um,

[00:22:02] Carl Lanore: [00:22:02] the person that probably has done the most for the show.

[00:22:06] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:06] If you want to do it that way is Ron Penna. Um, Ron

[00:22:10] Carl Lanore: [00:22:10] Penna listened to the show before he

[00:22:14] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:14] devised quest nutrition. And when he

[00:22:17] Carl Lanore: [00:22:17] built quest nutrition, we were one of two podcasts that he

[00:22:22] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:22] wanted to be on

[00:22:23] Carl Lanore: [00:22:23] and it was this and Dave Palumbo

[00:22:25] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:25] podcast.

[00:22:27] Carl Lanore: [00:22:27] And we did so well for them. That quest remains

[00:22:32] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:32] a sponsor till the

[00:22:33] Carl Lanore: [00:22:33] end of this year, even though it was sold two years ago.

[00:22:36] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:36] But they are leaving at the end of this year. And

[00:22:38] Carl Lanore: [00:22:38] I said to go that sad to see them go because they played such a large role

[00:22:42] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:42] in the

[00:22:42] Carl Lanore: [00:22:42] success of this show. But the reality is they played success, a successful role in the show because of Ron Penna.

[00:22:49] In fact, I have a very good suspicion

[00:22:53] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:53] that the company I bought

[00:22:55] Carl Lanore: [00:22:55] quest nutrition.

[00:22:56] Anthony Roberts: [00:22:56] Um, the Atkins company one, they bought

[00:23:00] [00:22:59] Carl Lanore: [00:22:59] it. I will bet

[00:23:01] Anthony Roberts: [00:23:01] you anything that Ron went to them and said, you know, you got to keep superhuman radio, just don't don't hook, hack them. And they probably said, all right, we'll keep them through 2020, but then, and we're leaving

[00:23:10] Carl Lanore: [00:23:10] because they didn't keep anything else.

[00:23:13] You know what I mean? They didn't keep anybody or anything else, but the show, so, Oh yeah.

[00:23:19] Anthony Roberts: [00:23:19] Well, I'm sure Ron, so Ron,

[00:23:22] Carl Lanore: [00:23:22] Ron Penna, uh, does quite a few things

[00:23:26] Anthony Roberts: [00:23:26] that impact the show. Number one,

[00:23:28] Carl Lanore: [00:23:28] he's put his shoulder behind this show

[00:23:31] Anthony Roberts: [00:23:31] and,

[00:23:31] Carl Lanore: [00:23:31] and brought the show into the world

[00:23:33] Anthony Roberts: [00:23:33] of the successful. This it is today.

[00:23:36] Carl Lanore: [00:23:36] Number two, uh, he is profoundly generous with his time and. He makes me feel smarter. You know, like I talked to Ron about crazy stuff that I won't talk to anybody else because I don't want people to go like,

[00:23:56] Anthony Roberts: [00:23:56] like Jesse said, my old employers, Oh, this guy went crazy.

[00:24:00] [00:23:59] Carl Lanore: [00:23:59] Like he he's, he's off the rails and Ron gets it

[00:24:04] Anthony Roberts: [00:24:04] a lot of times.

[00:24:04] He's like,

[00:24:04] Carl Lanore: [00:24:04] you know, this sounds really interesting. And so. He gives me a lot of courage, uh, to talk about some of the things that I think no one is going to get, because I could tell him and he doesn't go because Ron is painfully honest. If he, if he thinks that it's, he'll say none of that's bullshit, like, he'll stop you right in your tracks.

[00:24:24] It's not, he won't, he won't listen to you drone on about something in order to make you feel good about yourself.

[00:24:31] Anthony Roberts: [00:24:31] And so,

[00:24:32] Carl Lanore: [00:24:32] yeah, he's been kind of like, um,

[00:24:34] Anthony Roberts: [00:24:34] My guardian angel

[00:24:36] Carl Lanore: [00:24:36] do this process. So if there's one person that I have to pick, that's done more for this show and the success of this show. It's Ron pan.

[00:24:45] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:24:45] Well, I think too, that, that craziness that you're referring to is kind of what has made you a good podcast host also because of your you're so inquisitive and, and you think outside the [00:25:00] box and. So I think that adds to your persona.

[00:25:05] Carl Lanore: [00:25:05] And th the inquisitive, this is what has given the show

[00:25:07] Anthony Roberts: [00:25:07] longevity.

[00:25:08] Carl Lanore: [00:25:08] I know there's a Sean, Croxton had a

[00:25:10] Anthony Roberts: [00:25:10] fantastic podcast about health, underground wellness,

[00:25:14] Carl Lanore: [00:25:14] and then one day he just said, I'm not doing the podcast anymore.

[00:25:18] Cause there's nothing new to talk about. And, and from that moment forward, we've gotten so much more new stuff to talk about. It's just unbelievable. And so, you know, my mother said to me, my, as you know, my mother had, um, I know she loved me, but she, she had kind of, you know, she, she was, um, she was, she had a mean streak in her,

[00:25:40] Anthony Roberts: [00:25:40] you know what I mean?

[00:25:41] Carl Lanore: [00:25:41] She never held anything back and growing up. Yeah, she was feisty for sure. And I remember her saying to me often, would you shut up already? Would you shut up? Like she would say that would you, could you just shut up? I was like, there was a movie with a kid just [00:26:00] goes on and on. Why is the sky blue? Why is this green?

[00:26:02] My mother would say to me, Oh yeah. Why is a crooked letter? I'd say, mom, why is this, this, this and that? And she'd go, why is a crooked letter? Leave me alone? And so I have this inquisitive, this about me, that a lot of people probably are put off by, but this is platform allows me to be inquisitive. So I don't have to be out there talking to people and being inquisitive.

[00:26:23] But the reason that the show has longevity is because I believe that every day there's something exciting to learn.

[00:26:29] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:26:29] So I agree. And with that, with that being said, have your views on health and fitness changed or evolved over the past

[00:26:37] Anthony Roberts: [00:26:37] 15 minutes? Oh my God.

[00:26:40] Carl Lanore: [00:26:40] Right now, I want to say to that squeaky voice guy, 15 years ago, you are

[00:26:45] Anthony Roberts: [00:26:45] so wrong, but you

[00:26:47] Carl Lanore: [00:26:47] just don't know it yet.

[00:26:48] Like I know you're passionate and you really believe what you're saying, but you're so wrong. I think what I've realized is.

[00:26:58] Anthony Roberts: [00:26:58] Um,

[00:26:59] Carl Lanore: [00:26:59] health and [00:27:00] longevity and fitness

[00:27:02] Anthony Roberts: [00:27:02] are

[00:27:02] Carl Lanore: [00:27:02] so much more

[00:27:04] Anthony Roberts: [00:27:04] complex than we want to believe,

[00:27:07] Carl Lanore: [00:27:07] because if we really, if we really realized all the factors it takes, we would probably not even get started.

[00:27:17] In fact, you know, I think you have a question, you know what, uh, you, you have a

[00:27:20] Anthony Roberts: [00:27:20] question about, um, well

[00:27:23] Carl Lanore: [00:27:23] tell me something

[00:27:24] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:27:24] that almost no one agrees

[00:27:25] Anthony Roberts: [00:27:25] with you about. No, no, that's another one. We'll talk about that,

[00:27:28] Carl Lanore: [00:27:28] but you know, it's so back then, I just thought lift weights, eat an ancestral diet, protect your sleep.

[00:27:37] Have lots of sex. I thought those that's it. You do those things. Everything else will work out. You do those things. And 80% of everything will work out, but the other 20% may actually have a greater effect on your health and longevity. So you can't just ignore it. You know what

[00:27:54] Anthony Roberts: [00:27:54] I mean,

[00:27:56] Carl Lanore: [00:27:56] using, so [00:28:00] our body will repair itself.

[00:28:02] If injured, when you're young, it takes this much time to repair itself. When you're older, it starts to take this much time when you're really older, like 60 plus,

[00:28:13] Anthony Roberts: [00:28:13] I have to say like you and

[00:28:15] Carl Lanore: [00:28:15] I, it takes so much longer to recover. You think to yourself, am I even going to live long enough

[00:28:21] Anthony Roberts: [00:28:21] to bounce back from this?

[00:28:24] Like,

[00:28:24] Carl Lanore: [00:28:24] it's really. And so what I, what I've learned is. There is a place for drugs. I used to rail against the pharmaceutical industry and I still do with the drugs that they put people on weekend and week out for things that they could fix themselves,

[00:28:41] Anthony Roberts: [00:28:41] like insulin resistance and stuff like that. Obesity, you know,

[00:28:44] Carl Lanore: [00:28:44] doing, uh, doing, uh,

[00:28:46] Anthony Roberts: [00:28:46] uh, of

[00:28:47] Carl Lanore: [00:28:47] gastric bypass surgery.

[00:28:49] Like why are their jaws shot? Make them drink their food for three years. Like, why would you permanently change the way something that is designed to [00:29:00] work a certain way? Like they ended up dying from brittle bones and nutrient deficiencies and all these other things. Anyway. So it's, it's, it's a miserable existence, but okay.

[00:29:09] You're 180 pounds now, but, but, and so there, there are things to rescue people that like surgeries, there are things that people are taking long-term that shouldn't be long-term, it's like. Rapid a leg, giving a guy a crutch, crutches, and say, now you got to work for the rest of your life on the crutch. No, just who you heal.

[00:29:28] And then there are things that expedite healing and these drugs, a lot of times are being used for

[00:29:37] Anthony Roberts: [00:29:37] that. Like rap myosin. Well, let

[00:29:40] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:29:40] me ask you this. What if there's a natural alternative to the drug?

[00:29:44] Anthony Roberts: [00:29:44] Go for it?

[00:29:44] Carl Lanore: [00:29:44] Absolutely. We just talked about 10 of them yesterday on the show. When we talked about Juva. They have some amazing ingredients that individually have been clinically proven to enhance aging, slow it down and, and return you to [00:30:00] health.

[00:30:00] And so I'm all for that. But my point is that guy, 15 years ago, thought there was no place for pharmaceutical drugs,

[00:30:09] Anthony Roberts: [00:30:09] no place.

[00:30:10] Carl Lanore: [00:30:10] And now I'm starting to realize that there is because when you get to that older age where it takes this long to recover from everything, those drugs. Can make it this like oxytocin.

[00:30:21] I'm burning a trail on oxytocin. Every day. I get five or six messages from guys saying I F in love, oxytocin. I can't believe how strong I'm getting. I can't believe how good I'm sleeping. I can't believe how good I feel and see. I'm the one out there that's promoting it. I have doctors contacting me yesterday.

[00:30:40] Actually I had a pharmacy contact me last week, wanting to know if I would consider lecturing to some of their doctors, because they're sending my show to their doctors and saying, Hey, prescribe oxytocin for your men. And they're like, okay, what are the doses? And I'm the only one who's figuring out the doses right now.

[00:30:58] Nobody else knows.

[00:30:59] Anthony Roberts: [00:30:59] That's [00:31:00] great. But anyway, that that's definitely something that

[00:31:03] Carl Lanore: [00:31:03] change.

[00:31:05] Anthony Roberts: [00:31:05] Yeah. Yeah,

[00:31:06] Carl Lanore: [00:31:06] part of that is because I was a child of the sixties and I'm very experimental. I'm not afraid to try drugs. You got to remember, I was doing a lot of LSD in high school. I drugs, you know, pot, all that stuff.

[00:31:18] Never scared me. So I'm willing to take

[00:31:20] Anthony Roberts: [00:31:20] something and give it a try, so to speak

[00:31:24] Carl Lanore: [00:31:24] and then take it a little higher and take it a little higher and see what happens. And then, then I'll back it down. I don't have to stay up there,

[00:31:30] Anthony Roberts: [00:31:30] but yeah, that, that I'm willing to experiment as well.

[00:31:34] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:31:34] Okay. So let's go back to the question.

[00:31:37] Tell me something that almost that no one agrees with you on

[00:31:41] Anthony Roberts: [00:31:41] Metformin Metformin.

[00:31:44] Carl Lanore: [00:31:44] Well, everybody wants to believe that Metformin is

[00:31:46] Anthony Roberts: [00:31:46] a fantastic anti-aging drug

[00:31:50] Carl Lanore: [00:31:50] and everybody jumped on this bandwagon.

[00:31:54] Anthony Roberts: [00:31:54] And

[00:31:54] Carl Lanore: [00:31:54] if people out there taking 500 milligrams of

[00:31:55] Anthony Roberts: [00:31:55] Metformin twice a day, blah, blah, blah, blah,

[00:31:58] Carl Lanore: [00:31:58] it has negative side [00:32:00] effects, including in.

[00:32:02] Helping some cancers to grow.

[00:32:04] Anthony Roberts: [00:32:04] Number one

[00:32:05] Carl Lanore: [00:32:05] more importantly, it does impact protein

[00:32:09] Anthony Roberts: [00:32:09] synthesis and muscle,

[00:32:11] Carl Lanore: [00:32:11] but maybe most important if you already regulate blood sugar. Well, it will do nothing good for you. And I've been saying that for the past few years. And there's a lot of people like, you just don't get it, Jay Campbell's like, nah, man, you just don't get it.

[00:32:28] We've ran through the science. We know what we're talking about now guys like Mikael  and Peter  who everybody loves. They're saying what I've been saying for over three years. It doesn't help people unless they're metabolically challenged already. But I don't have an MD or a PhD

[00:32:46] Anthony Roberts: [00:32:46] or, you know, uh,

[00:32:48] Carl Lanore: [00:32:48] any of those credentials that people don't take my observation seriously.

[00:32:54] And so that's something that nobody agrees

[00:32:57] Anthony Roberts: [00:32:57] with me on.

[00:33:01] [00:33:00] Carl Lanore: [00:33:01] Well, I think we need to take a break actually.

[00:33:03] Anthony Roberts: [00:33:03] Okay. So you got to me, I take one breath and I just keep going.

[00:33:07] Carl Lanore: [00:33:07] I, so we're going to take a quick commercial break. We've got two more guests that are going to be on the show. Uh, stay tuned. You're watching the anniversary show here on superhuman radio. We'll be right

[00:33:17] Anthony Roberts: [00:33:17] back.

[00:33:25] welcome

[00:33:25] Anthony Roberts: [00:33:25] back. I'm going into uncharted territory right now because we have Randy Roach on hold and I'm going to bring, I'm going to bring his phone line in. And if the gods of technology favor me, he will hear us and we will hear him. Hey, Randy, you there? I'm here. Excellent. Excellent. How are you, Randy?

[00:33:45] Randy Roach: [00:33:45] Pretty good. Not too bad, not too bad.

[00:33:47] Carl Lanore: [00:33:47] So one of the turning points for this show, you know, I keep getting enlightened

[00:33:53] Anthony Roberts: [00:33:53] by people,

[00:33:55] Carl Lanore: [00:33:55] different people, one of the turning points of this. So this show started out with purely [00:34:00] bodybuilding intentions, but then I met Randy Roach. Randy had been just finishing

[00:34:07] Anthony Roberts: [00:34:07] the

[00:34:07] Carl Lanore: [00:34:07] volume, one of muscle smoke and mirrors

[00:34:11] Anthony Roberts: [00:34:11] and.

[00:34:13] Carl Lanore: [00:34:13] I connected with him. I asked him to be on the show. That was 2006. Wasn't it?

[00:34:19] Randy Roach: [00:34:19] Yeah, I think I might've been your third or fourth show.

[00:34:23] Anthony Roberts: [00:34:23] Right.

[00:34:24] Carl Lanore: [00:34:24] And actually in 2006, you were you right there at the beginning of the year, the

[00:34:27] Anthony Roberts: [00:34:27] first quarter.

[00:34:28] Carl Lanore: [00:34:28] And he sent me a copy of the book and I immersed myself in this book.

[00:34:34] Anthony Roberts: [00:34:34] And

[00:34:34] Carl Lanore: [00:34:34] what I learned was so eyeopening because. We think about bodybuilding lifting weights, drugs, but nobody understands the importance of the nutritional contributions of the fathers of physical culture, which were the early, early bodybuilders. And Randy did an amazing job laying there. How many pages was the first book, Randy?

[00:35:00] [00:34:59] Randy Roach: [00:34:59] Um, I think it was just over 500 pages.

[00:35:04] Anthony Roberts: [00:35:04] Now

[00:35:05] Randy Roach: [00:35:05] the second one, it went over 700. I think

[00:35:07] Carl Lanore: [00:35:07] there's something else that I have to put into this discussion that

[00:35:10] Anthony Roberts: [00:35:10] a lot of people need to understand.

[00:35:12] Carl Lanore: [00:35:12] Randy is blind

[00:35:14] Anthony Roberts: [00:35:14] and he went blind.

[00:35:16] Carl Lanore: [00:35:16] While he was writing volume one. Now you just heard him talk about volume two and there's even a volume three.

[00:35:22] Randy. Talk about the experience you had as you had dedicated yourself to gathering all of this information to put in volume one, and all of a sudden you go blind.

[00:35:34] Randy Roach: [00:35:34] Yeah, I, um, I was always visually impaired for me many years and I experienced various levels of blindness, but I could still read with a magnifier while I was, um, writing volume one, but in January, 2005, I lost it all.

[00:35:47] And I had to rely on speech, which was very frustrating and other people were, were reading to me, scanning me stuff. So I could read with, uh, with the technology and stuff without the technology, the book would have [00:36:00] never been finished. So it was frustrating, but you get used to the tools and I just proceeded from there.

[00:36:06] I've got some sight back now. Um,

[00:36:10] Anthony Roberts: [00:36:10] yeah,

[00:36:10] Randy Roach: [00:36:10] like it still fluctuates, but on a good day, I can walk up to the TV and see who's on there. And I can read large print on this. I can't read anything on a paper, but I can read, I can pull up the screen and I can see things. I can see if you sent me a picture on a good day, I could look on skin and see what you actually look.

[00:36:26] Carl Lanore: [00:36:26] Oh my God. That's amazing. I didn't realize that. Well, that's phenomenal. Yeah.

[00:36:30] Randy Roach: [00:36:30] I, I started using, you

[00:36:32] Anthony Roberts: [00:36:32] know what he is of butter.

[00:36:34] Carl Lanore: [00:36:34] Yeah.

[00:36:35] Randy Roach: [00:36:35] I don't tear. So my corny scar right over. That's why I don't see, but I was using, I started using raw butter oil as a lubricant because I used to put artificial tears in for about 20 years.

[00:36:45] Every 10 minutes I'd put artificial tears. It was such a pain in the rear end to do that. But when I got to using the butter oil, it, I could last for up to three or four hours. And I noticed that my sight, um, started to come back.

[00:37:00] [00:37:00] Carl Lanore: [00:37:00] You know, those of you listening to the show, muscle smoke and mirrors is

[00:37:03] Anthony Roberts: [00:37:03] still in publication and I'm putting up pictures of it.

[00:37:07] Right, right now up, that's

[00:37:10] Carl Lanore: [00:37:10] a volume one on the left

[00:37:11] Anthony Roberts: [00:37:11] with Eugene Sandel. Uh, and then that is volume three on the right, um, with, uh, Arnold and, um, Franco. And, uh, and, and, and, um, what's his name? Uh, Zane Frank. Zane.

[00:37:26] Carl Lanore: [00:37:26] Um, yeah. W where could people get the book?

[00:37:29] Anthony Roberts: [00:37:29] And then I want to go on to talk about things that I learned from you.

[00:37:31] Where can people get them

[00:37:33] Randy Roach: [00:37:33] the volume one or two? You can still probably get on Amazon or through the publisher with volume three to my website, we didn't go. Uh, we that's the only book we sell here through the. Through the publisher. I am the publisher, the third one.

[00:37:49] Carl Lanore: [00:37:49] And so that's Randy roach.ca.

[00:37:52] Randy Roach: [00:37:52] Yeah.

[00:37:53] Randy brush dot Sierra muscle smoke, commuters.com. Randy roche.ca is the shortest one to type in.

[00:37:57] Anthony Roberts: [00:37:57] Okay, there you go.

[00:37:58] Carl Lanore: [00:37:58] So when [00:38:00] I read the first volume and I, I learned about nutrition in a way that I had never heard about it before. And, and now that I look back. It fits nicely into the second

[00:38:14] Anthony Roberts: [00:38:14] turning point for this show, which was

[00:38:16] Carl Lanore: [00:38:16] understanding evolution.

[00:38:18] But Randy's book changed the direction of the show that now the show was about health. It wasn't about bodybuilding anymore. It was about longevity. It wasn't about bodybuilding anymore. It was about so much more. Cause Randy taught me. He said, Carl bodybuilding is just a splinter. Of physical culture and physical culture has to do not only with being physical, but, but the nutrition it takes to remodel the body.

[00:38:44] That was a game changer for me, Randy.

[00:38:47] Randy Roach: [00:38:47] Yeah, uh, physical culture, um, it's the way it's defined differently. I always look at everybody has their own physical culture. What constitutes your, you as a person, whether mental, spiritual, physical, and [00:39:00] bodybuilding is a big part. Actually, I said, I wouldn't say suspended.

[00:39:03] I think there's a big part because your physical health is all part of that balance. And bodybuilding is just a natural.

[00:39:08] Carl Lanore: [00:39:08] Well, when I say bodybuilding, I

[00:39:10] Anthony Roberts: [00:39:10] I'm distinguishing it from body. Building right. Support, supportive bodybuilder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That kinda, that kinda changed a lot of things,

[00:39:18] Carl Lanore: [00:39:18] but it still is a contributor.

[00:39:20] You're absolutely right. So,

[00:39:22] Anthony Roberts: [00:39:22] um,

[00:39:23] Carl Lanore: [00:39:23] Randy's book was the first turning point for this show. It changed. My show became, it gave me a much bigger canvas to paint on it. Didn't have to be about pumps and creatine and that stuff. It could be about so much more. That was really why supereme radio has, if I can attribute the one thing I did

[00:39:46] Anthony Roberts: [00:39:46] that

[00:39:47] Carl Lanore: [00:39:47] allowed this show to have the greater possibility of longevity, it'd be Randy Rowe.

[00:39:52] Anthony Roberts: [00:39:52] Absolutely.

[00:39:53] Randy Roach: [00:39:53] So you also sold a lot of my books, too.

[00:39:57] Anthony Roberts: [00:39:57] I'm happy to

[00:39:57] Carl Lanore: [00:39:57] do that. That's good to hope we sell more. [00:40:00] It's a, it's a must have book. It is, if you, if you lift weights, if you go to the gym and you don't have at least volume one, you are missing out, it's kinda like going to church, but nobody ever exposed you to the Bible.

[00:40:11] You just go and you listen and you go, Oh, that's interesting. But nobody ever said, Hey, have you ever read the Bible? Literally, that's what it, the muscle smoker is the Bible.

[00:40:21] Randy Roach: [00:40:21] You remember when you interviewed a doctor 

[00:40:23] Carl Lanore: [00:40:23] yes, I do.

[00:40:25] Randy Roach: [00:40:25] And I was missing that show. And you went to commercial and you had done a commercial for my book.

[00:40:32] And when it came out of commercial, she said that book will probably eventually be banned.

[00:40:37] Carl Lanore: [00:40:37] Oh, and

[00:40:38] Randy Roach: [00:40:38] we look at today, the way we're being censored on big tech, she wasn't far off.

[00:40:43] Carl Lanore: [00:40:43] No. Oh, really? Cause why, why, why would you want to empower people to stay healthy

[00:40:47] Anthony Roberts: [00:40:47] and be independent?

[00:40:49] Carl Lanore: [00:40:49] And that's really what the book, the book gives you.

[00:40:52] I mean, I learned about Stefansson.

[00:40:54] Anthony Roberts: [00:40:54] I learned about,

[00:40:55] Carl Lanore: [00:40:55] uh, pots and, and,

[00:40:56] Anthony Roberts: [00:40:56] and, uh, and who was the other guy? Um,

[00:41:00] [00:40:59] Carl Lanore: [00:40:59] Ponder I read in Western APRO, those names didn't I didn't even know who they were until I read Randy's book. The book is so much more, so much more than about physical culture. It's just

[00:41:11] Anthony Roberts: [00:41:11] phenomenal.

[00:41:12] Carl Lanore: [00:41:12] Are you still training, Randy? How old are you now? Younger

[00:41:16] Randy Roach: [00:41:16] than you? I think you're 62. I'm 61.

[00:41:18] Anthony Roberts: [00:41:18] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:41:20] Randy Roach: [00:41:20] I still try. I don't, that's how I make my living is training people that government doesn't shut us down again.

[00:41:27] Carl Lanore: [00:41:27] And so we did a show about that too. One time, uh, being, being, uh, having, uh, issues with being cited and training other people, Randy, you actually have to put your hands on people to make sure that they're doing the right thing, right?

[00:41:39] Randy Roach: [00:41:39] Yeah. Nowadays it was funny a few years back when my site came in, I was training actually my physician at the time. And he, he was the first guy I saw moving in front of me. Well, he had a white shirt on and it was really weird cause I'd been blind for so long. It was like he was animated. And it was bizarre that I got used to it.

[00:41:56] And all of a sudden I saw more than I was. I was, I was almost paralyzed walking around [00:42:00] because a man, I didn't know, it was that close to that machine. When I walked past it, it was really freaky to get sight back like that. But on a bad day, I put the hands on, but on a good day now I really don't have to.

[00:42:11] Carl Lanore: [00:42:11] So there was something else that Randy

[00:42:13] Anthony Roberts: [00:42:13] brought to the

[00:42:13] Carl Lanore: [00:42:13] forefront. So right now we have this whole carnival movement, but Randy introduced my audience to the real carnival

[00:42:22] Anthony Roberts: [00:42:22] movement.

[00:42:23] Carl Lanore: [00:42:23] Over 10, 12 years, maybe 13 years ago, we did a series of shows that continue to be downloaded with Randy and Randy and Josh.

[00:42:32] Trientine

[00:42:34] Anthony Roberts: [00:42:34] about

[00:42:35] Carl Lanore: [00:42:35] eating raw

[00:42:37] Anthony Roberts: [00:42:37] animal flesh,

[00:42:38] Carl Lanore: [00:42:38] including chicken. And the first show I did at least it's just grimaced at the thought of it. The first, the first show I did with Randy about raw food, eating. People emailed me and said, did I hear him right? Did he say he left the chicken breasts out on the countertop all night long and found that the next [00:43:00] morning and then prepared it and ate it.

[00:43:03] Anthony Roberts: [00:43:03] Yeah,

[00:43:06] Randy Roach: [00:43:06] I got, uh, remember Fred point a call that he said, he said, uh, I did an interview with my buddy, not calm and he's reading it, reading. It says, yeah. Yeah. I knew you got to do that. Sure enough. He started talking about the rod check.

[00:43:20] Carl Lanore: [00:43:20] That's fine.

[00:43:20] Randy Roach: [00:43:20] So, but it's actually raw chicken is pretty good. I just smothered it with raw butter and honey.

[00:43:25] Anthony Roberts: [00:43:25] Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[00:43:26] Carl Lanore: [00:43:26] I need all raw.

[00:43:27] Randy Roach: [00:43:27] Like I I'm, I'm not religious about it. I'm like, I'll cook the meat once in a while, you know, too, it doesn't, it's not that I have to have anything that has to be raw, but I eat a lot of raw dairy. I just loved the rock, hotties cheese and the raw milk and raw yogurt. And then I'll have raw beef and I'll put the raw quirk on it.

[00:43:44] But if I feel like something cooked or something, I have no problem with that.

[00:43:47] Carl Lanore: [00:43:47] But that, but, so there's a guy who's been, was on my show in 2017 named Dr. Sean Baker. That's all the rage now because he's like the carnivore guy. Yeah. But, but that's sweet. Fantastic. He's [00:44:00] fantastic. But you're the original, real carnival guy.

[00:44:03] Randy Roach: [00:44:03] Uh, not me. I got to go back to, I think events had some Binster on at it started tire and, uh, they're all, they're all meats because it goes back quite away in the Vonda. Plants was easy to get back in the eighties. I started in 2000 by ice. Possibly not what's his name escapes me. Now. You got to show with you too.

[00:44:23] Carl Lanore: [00:44:23] Yeah, I had him on the show. He did two shows with me. He did one show about viruses that other people use the audio clips in their, uh, in their videos, that guy, um,

[00:44:32] Anthony Roberts: [00:44:32] Oh, I can't think of his name now, but it'll come to me.

[00:44:34] Carl Lanore: [00:44:34] But anyway, um, the other, the, the, the other thing was, uh, we talked about the, the raw chicken.

[00:44:42] Anthony Roberts: [00:44:42] And

[00:44:42] Carl Lanore: [00:44:42] raw beef. And then people started to eat more raw beef because of Randy. I was getting emails from people all the time.

[00:44:47] Anthony Roberts: [00:44:47] They were eating raw beef because of branding

[00:44:51] Randy Roach: [00:44:51] ebook called a food intelligence, the raw facts on nutrition. Uh, it's on my website too. It's it's, it's a 10 part. Uh, Audio and [00:45:00] 32,000 page notes where I kind of clarify some of the things that I said in the audio, and that's only, it's only like 10 bucks, but it's, there's fair amount of information.

[00:45:08] If anybody's interested in a rough Houdini

[00:45:09] Carl Lanore: [00:45:09] and everybody can thank Randy for my

[00:45:12] Anthony Roberts: [00:45:12] indulgence and

[00:45:13] Carl Lanore: [00:45:13] raw dairy, because Randy came on with Dr. Schmidt, what was his first name?

[00:45:20] Anthony Roberts: [00:45:20] Uh,

[00:45:21] Carl Lanore: [00:45:21] definitely Dr.

[00:45:22] Randy Roach: [00:45:22] Ron Schmidt. Yeah, he's the guy that got me into raw food. Eating, not oddness. He, it was Dr. Ron Schmidt.

[00:45:27] Carl Lanore: [00:45:27] I

[00:45:27] Randy Roach: [00:45:27] didn't know.

[00:45:28] He

[00:45:28] Carl Lanore: [00:45:28] passed away now. Yeah. Ah, that said he wrote a book that's still out there called the story of milk and he taught us that raw dairy was. Grace from biblical times forward until the distilleries got into bottling milk. And then we had this swill milk ex epidemic in the East coast. I think, of 1911 or 19.

[00:45:51] Yeah, I think it was 1911

[00:45:53] Anthony Roberts: [00:45:53] where

[00:45:54] Carl Lanore: [00:45:54] thousands of babies died and people got sick and then pasteurization was [00:46:00] enforced when it wasn't the milk that was bad. It was the companies that were bottling the milk were feeding the leftover mash to the cows and the cows were getting mastitis and they were putting the puffs into the milk and everybody was getting sick from it.

[00:46:15] So,

[00:46:16] Randy Roach: [00:46:16] yeah. Look wouldn't even lie. Naturally fermented all electro from it. It's just a. They call it the swill milk. Yeah. There, they housed the cows on the distillery farms where they're brewing, making their whiskey and then feeding the slop to the cows. I mean, I'll stupid. Can you get right? There was people speaking out against it, but it's big business

[00:46:32] Carl Lanore: [00:46:32] winning and that's why we have pasteurized milk today.

[00:46:36] So as you can see, so many of the foundational topics of this show started with this man right here,

[00:46:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:46:43] Randy Roach.

[00:46:45] Carl Lanore: [00:46:45] And that's something

[00:46:47] Randy Roach: [00:46:47] I wouldn't say it all began with me, but I just kind of carried the story on.

[00:46:50] Anthony Roberts: [00:46:50] No, you did a great job and you've

[00:46:52] Carl Lanore: [00:46:52] been a good friend that I really appreciate it. And I want to just put the book up one more time so that people can know about it.

[00:46:57] If you touch [00:47:00] weights, if you walk into a gym and you haven't at least re a red muscle smoke and mirrors volume one, You're just wasting so much time. You need to understand why you're doing the things that you do, and you will become a purist you'll understand physical culture better than anybody at your gym.

[00:47:18] And you'll laugh to yourself when they do silly things and you think, Oh, he doesn't even know why he's doing that.

[00:47:24] Anthony Roberts: [00:47:24] So that's

[00:47:24] Carl Lanore: [00:47:24] the, that's the place to go check it out. And then of course, go to Randy roach.ca for volume three, who has volume two? Is it even out there anymore? Uh,

[00:47:32] Randy Roach: [00:47:32] Amazon and, and, uh, the publisher, uh, author hosted.

[00:47:36] They're both still out there on Amazon. Okay.

[00:47:40] Carl Lanore: [00:47:40] Hey, Randy, thank you for being here today, brother.

[00:47:43] Randy Roach: [00:47:43] No, thank you, Carl. I haven't done an interview for quite some time, but for you

[00:47:47] Anthony Roberts: [00:47:47] take care, brother. Bye-bye. Well, there you go.

[00:47:52] Carl Lanore: [00:47:52] The phone line still works. Let's uh, let's, let's commend some other people while we're at it.

[00:47:56] Let's come in. First of all, Elisa Profumo [00:48:00] because she reads the studies decides which ones

[00:48:04] Anthony Roberts: [00:48:04] would fit. Our audience does a lot of the background work for me. And then the hardest part is

[00:48:09] Carl Lanore: [00:48:09] scheduling, uh, people, especially people in academia,

[00:48:12] Anthony Roberts: [00:48:12] because they're so hard

[00:48:13] Carl Lanore: [00:48:13] to

[00:48:14] Anthony Roberts: [00:48:14] tie down. I actually had a lovely doctor, asked me to lower the music and the commercials during the commercial breaks.

[00:48:23] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:48:23] I thought about that today, when I heard your music, I thought, Oh no, that's what she was

[00:48:27] Anthony Roberts: [00:48:27] listening to.

[00:48:28] Carl Lanore: [00:48:28] No, I, I, she was just listening to the normal bumper music. She wasn't even listening to the rap music and all that sort of

[00:48:34] Anthony Roberts: [00:48:34] stuff, which I played with to myself here. So, yeah,

[00:48:37] Carl Lanore: [00:48:37] no, she, she was just listening

[00:48:39] Anthony Roberts: [00:48:39] to the, the normal bumper music, but she, she had a very low tolerance to sound.

[00:48:44] Carl Lanore: [00:48:44] And

[00:48:44] Anthony Roberts: [00:48:44] there's another thing I want to announce right now while we're doing it. And we're acknowledging people on this team. And that is that, uh, you've asked for it and we're doing it. We heard you

[00:48:54] Carl Lanore: [00:48:54] casual Friday is coming back in January.

[00:48:57] Anthony Roberts: [00:48:57] It'll be the

[00:48:57] Carl Lanore: [00:48:57] last Friday of every month. [00:49:00] And Alisa will, co-host it with me, just like we used to there's a lot of people who literally stopped listening to this show because all they listened to was casual Friday.

[00:49:09] Anthony Roberts: [00:49:09] So those of you

[00:49:11] Carl Lanore: [00:49:11] will be very happy

[00:49:12] Anthony Roberts: [00:49:12] to know that it is going to come back.

[00:49:15] Carl Lanore: [00:49:15] So that's kind of cool. Right? Alisa.

[00:49:17] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:49:17] I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. The last Friday of every month to be kind of a wrap up of the shows and what's gone on in the news for the month,

[00:49:28] Carl Lanore: [00:49:28] then the reason the videos look so great

[00:49:31] Anthony Roberts: [00:49:31] now.

[00:49:32] And, and

[00:49:34] Carl Lanore: [00:49:34] last second changes and all that sorta stuff is because of Natalie Kopecki. Uh, there's a picture of, I know. Right. And so, and so Natalie is kind of like, she makes sure that everything looks good and everything works good. And she works all tirelessly, all hours. She's always working, which I don't want her to do.

[00:49:57] Anthony Roberts: [00:49:57] I

[00:49:57] Carl Lanore: [00:49:57] want her to be a little bit.

[00:49:59] Anthony Roberts: [00:49:59] Less [00:50:00] dedicated if you can believe that. Uh, but that

[00:50:02] Carl Lanore: [00:50:02] is a, her right there. And then her husband is the reason why we continue to stay in business. And that's that handsome guy there, Dan Kopecki, because he is the guy who handles sales and marketing. And since he's come a board, I don't have to worry about that stuff anymore.

[00:50:16] And it's made my life so much

[00:50:19] Anthony Roberts: [00:50:19] better, so much easier. Um,

[00:50:22] Carl Lanore: [00:50:22] we have a video

[00:50:24] Anthony Roberts: [00:50:24] that. Uh,

[00:50:25] Carl Lanore: [00:50:25] Kirkland more Letty will show up in just a second, but he is the guy who does the show notes. Uh, he does, he listens to every show. Uh, I've heard his mom told me that he has nightmares about my voice now. And,

[00:50:41] Anthony Roberts: [00:50:41] and,

[00:50:41] Carl Lanore: [00:50:41] and he says, you know,

[00:50:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:50:43] uh, uh,

[00:50:45] Carl Lanore: [00:50:45] three minutes and 40 seconds, they talked about this at 45 minutes and five seconds.

[00:50:48] So he allows you to go to the website, scan through,

[00:50:51] Anthony Roberts: [00:50:51] go to where you want.

[00:50:53] Carl Lanore: [00:50:53] This guy has been. Working with me longer than anybody else. And that is Michael [00:51:00] Quantico who lives in the Philippines. Uh, he works for the prison

[00:51:03] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:03] system there. He's actually kind of like an

[00:51:05] Carl Lanore: [00:51:05] it,

[00:51:06] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:06] uh, admin there.

[00:51:07] Carl Lanore: [00:51:07] Uh, he is a Joomla expert and we use Joomla

[00:51:12] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:12] as our platform for our

[00:51:13] Carl Lanore: [00:51:13] website because it's the most robust.

[00:51:17] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:17] Web platform for content management that you can

[00:51:20] Carl Lanore: [00:51:20] have. And there's only a handful of people in

[00:51:23] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:23] the world that actually

[00:51:24] Carl Lanore: [00:51:24] a good at it. I have two of them. I don't have Arbonne by God who lives in Denmark, who

[00:51:31] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:31] works on our website. Uh, but I do have Michael Quantico. I'm sorry about that

[00:51:35] Carl Lanore: [00:51:35] Arbonne then I, I, I, it was a last minute thought,

[00:51:38] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:38] but

[00:51:38] Carl Lanore: [00:51:38] Michael has been with me for 12 years, I think 12 years.

[00:51:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:43] What's that.

[00:51:45] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:51:45] I said longer than me.

[00:51:46] Carl Lanore: [00:51:46] Well, almost as long as me let's put it that way. So yeah, longer than you, but, uh, he had a headstart you weren't in my life yet. So there you go.

[00:51:54] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:54] And

[00:51:54] Carl Lanore: [00:51:54] then, uh, I think that's it for the, uh, the team that

[00:51:59] Anthony Roberts: [00:51:59] I [00:52:00] miss anybody. I don't think so.

[00:52:04] Carl Lanore: [00:52:04] We're going to take a commercial break.

[00:52:05] And when we come back, I want

[00:52:06] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:06] to start talking about listeners

[00:52:07] Carl Lanore: [00:52:07] because they are the biggest part of this show.

[00:52:11] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:11] And I don't want to go on and on without acknowledging some of them.

[00:52:14] Carl Lanore: [00:52:14] So we're going to take one quick commercial break. You're here for the 15 out of our 15 year anniversary show at human radio.

[00:52:20] Thank you for being here today. If you're watching live,

[00:52:23] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:23] if you're downloaded the podcast,

[00:52:24] Carl Lanore: [00:52:24] thank you for downloading it. Uh, this show does not

[00:52:27] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:27] exist without

[00:52:28] Carl Lanore: [00:52:28] those

[00:52:29] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:29] of you who listened to this show, stay tuned. We'll be right back.

[00:52:38] Carl Lanore: [00:52:38] welcome back. So I, I, this popped up during

[00:52:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:43] the break and I want to put it back up again,

[00:52:45] Carl Lanore: [00:52:45] so I'm pretty sure this is Chris tine.

[00:52:48] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:48] From Germany.

[00:52:50] Carl Lanore: [00:52:50] Okay. So she changed her name. It looks like, and

[00:52:53] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:53] I respect that, but,

[00:52:54] Carl Lanore: [00:52:54] uh, she says, woo, I'm very happy.

[00:52:57] Anthony Roberts: [00:52:57] Casual Friday is coming back.

[00:52:59] Carl Lanore: [00:52:59] Love it [00:53:00] may be there. You can talk about your cookbook.

[00:53:02] She wants you to, so Elisa posted pictures of

[00:53:06] Anthony Roberts: [00:53:06] like, yeah.

[00:53:07] Carl Lanore: [00:53:07] Of the food that we've made over the years. And it was just like a video kind of a snapshot after snack.

[00:53:13] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:53:13] Right. And, and it's, you know, it's. Gluten-free things made with

[00:53:19] Carl Lanore: [00:53:19] almond flour and

[00:53:21] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:53:21] just some of them

[00:53:22] Anthony Roberts: [00:53:22] weren't

[00:53:23] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:53:23] recipes that we converted, but, but most of them were either Quito or healthier versions of, of the

[00:53:32] Anthony Roberts: [00:53:32] crappy crappy food.

[00:53:34] Yeah, exactly.

[00:53:35] Carl Lanore: [00:53:35] Like Elisa makes this amazing chocolate mousse and she uses. Avocado avocado. Yeah. Avocado and cocoa powder. It's unbelief. Unbelievable.

[00:53:46] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:53:46] A little stabby. Yeah. It's

[00:53:48] Anthony Roberts: [00:53:48] delicious. She says, yeah. It's me

[00:53:53] Carl Lanore: [00:53:53] say hello to your cousin for me

[00:53:56] Anthony Roberts: [00:53:56] Lonestar. Thank you. Um,

[00:53:59] Carl Lanore: [00:53:59] yeah, so, [00:54:00] so it's, but we talked about doing a cookbook.

[00:54:04] It's a lot of work,

[00:54:06] Anthony Roberts: [00:54:06] a lot of work.

[00:54:07] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:54:07] Yes it is, but we may be able to revisit that at some point.

[00:54:11] Carl Lanore: [00:54:11] Yeah. Maybe. How about just, uh,

[00:54:13] Anthony Roberts: [00:54:13] a recipe from time to time released on casual Friday? Maybe that would work.

[00:54:17] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:54:17] That would be good.

[00:54:18] Carl Lanore: [00:54:18] We're waiting to highlight that

[00:54:22] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:54:22] every

[00:54:22] Carl Lanore: [00:54:22] month. So we're waiting. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[00:54:25] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:54:25] Did you want me to get to the next question?

[00:54:28] Carl Lanore: [00:54:28] I want to play you a couple of these videos. Hold onto the next question. So I want to get these out because we're going to have our next guest on shortly.

[00:54:35] Anthony Roberts: [00:54:35] Another

[00:54:35] Carl Lanore: [00:54:35] secret guest. So let's just put some of these up. Uh, this is bill taco

[00:54:39] Anthony Roberts: [00:54:39] taco, you know, let's get this right. Here's

[00:54:43] Carl Lanore: [00:54:43] that is a Testament to the extraordinary quality of the content.

[00:54:47] Jesse Rivest: [00:54:47] Carl, my man, you are amazing

[00:54:49] Carl Lanore: [00:54:49] long

[00:54:49] Anthony Roberts: [00:54:49] may superhuman radio continue.

[00:54:51] Jesse Rivest: [00:54:51] Congratulations, my friend on 15 amazing

[00:54:53] Carl Lanore: [00:54:53] years,

[00:54:54] Jesse Rivest: [00:54:54] and congratulations on your body of work. Your legacy is

[00:54:58] Anthony Roberts: [00:54:58] a body of work. That's just simply

[00:55:00] [00:54:59] Jesse Rivest: [00:54:59] unmatched by anyone

[00:55:01] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:01] anywhere.

[00:55:01] Carl Lanore: [00:55:01] This is Dr. Suzanne Turner

[00:55:02] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:55:02] from Atlanta. Proud to be part of the superhuman nation.

[00:55:06] Carl Lanore: [00:55:06] Congratulations, Karl on 15 years, what an accomplishment. Happy 50th

[00:55:13] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:13] anniversary, superhuman radio, my man, super impressive

[00:55:17] Carl Lanore: [00:55:17] way to keep showing up every single day, doing the work

[00:55:19] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:19] and

[00:55:20] Carl Lanore: [00:55:20] provide great content for all of us looking forward to the next 15 years. My man love you. Yeah, I've learned so much from you guys

[00:55:26] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:26] and I know

[00:55:27] Carl Lanore: [00:55:27] everybody across the world has as well.

[00:55:29] All the way from Detroit, the Paris of the Midwest to the original Paris

[00:55:33] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:33] in France,

[00:55:34] Carl Lanore: [00:55:34] South Africa, and across the globe. Superhuman radio is a

[00:55:38] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:38] worldwide phenomenon. You guys are number one,

[00:55:41] Carl Lanore: [00:55:41] all the staff at superhuman radio, you're doing a

[00:55:43] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:43] great job and hats off

[00:55:45] Carl Lanore: [00:55:45] to you. Carla North. Man

[00:55:48] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:55:48] 15

[00:55:48] Carl Lanore: [00:55:48] years. It's amazing.

[00:55:50] I

[00:55:50] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:50] have been listening to the show since the day it

[00:55:53] Carl Lanore: [00:55:53] began.

[00:55:54] Anthony Roberts: [00:55:54] I found it so much education, so much value.

[00:55:58] Carl Lanore: [00:55:58] And as a young trainer, [00:56:00] it helped me evolve and stay ahead of the curve.

[00:56:02] Anthony Roberts: [00:56:02] Superhuman radio, you truly are super congratulations, Karl winner. Hey, Carl

[00:56:08] Carl Lanore: [00:56:08] wanted to wish you a

[00:56:08] Anthony Roberts: [00:56:08] happy 15th anniversary. I want to continue learning and getting to hear your scintillator personality.

[00:56:15] Carl Lanore: [00:56:15] Show is

[00:56:15] Anthony Roberts: [00:56:15] actually influenced

[00:56:17] Jesse Rivest: [00:56:17] the way I look at human performance and my business dramatically. So keep up the great work. Carl Alex here. I just want to take an opportunity to wish

[00:56:25] Carl Lanore: [00:56:25] superhuman radio, a

[00:56:26] Jesse Rivest: [00:56:26] happy 15th anniversary without them.

[00:56:29] Carl Lanore: [00:56:29] I would not be where I

[00:56:30] Jesse Rivest: [00:56:30] am today. So all of my heart goes out to them.

[00:56:34] I love you, Carl. I love you, Alisa.

[00:56:38] Anthony Roberts: [00:56:38] Isn't that

[00:56:38] Carl Lanore: [00:56:38] touching? Yes,

[00:56:41] Anthony Roberts: [00:56:41] it really is.

[00:56:42] Carl Lanore: [00:56:42] Now those of you listening to the podcast, you don't

[00:56:44] Anthony Roberts: [00:56:44] know all the names, but it was Tom bill. You, it was, uh, uh, bill. Toko the guy who

[00:56:50] Carl Lanore: [00:56:50] has the big voice and goes Carl that's Dan Maita.

[00:56:55] Anthony Roberts: [00:56:55] Um,

[00:56:56] Carl Lanore: [00:56:56] I mean, the list goes on and on

[00:56:58] Anthony Roberts: [00:56:58] Alex Lee said his name, Dr.

[00:56:59] Turner said her [00:57:00] name,

[00:57:00] Carl Lanore: [00:57:00] but you, if you watch

[00:57:02] Anthony Roberts: [00:57:02] the video, watch the video it's really

[00:57:03] Carl Lanore: [00:57:03] worthwhile. So Mike Bala, yeah. Mike Mala said it changed the way he does business and thinks about the training.

[00:57:10] Anthony Roberts: [00:57:10] Yeah, I know. Um,

[00:57:12] Carl Lanore: [00:57:12] so we have another guest.

[00:57:14] Anthony Roberts: [00:57:14] Who's going to join us now,

[00:57:16] Carl Lanore: [00:57:16] who was also a pivotal guest. He's not only one of my earliest guests, but he's a

[00:57:21] Anthony Roberts: [00:57:21] pivotal guest.

[00:57:22] And I'll explain why when he gets on. And that's Anthony Roberts, how are you doing Anthony? Good. How are you calling?

[00:57:28] Carl Lanore: [00:57:28] Thanks for being here, brother. Cause I know that you don't do

[00:57:31] Anthony Roberts: [00:57:31] these types of in-person things. Cause you're you're you're you're you're you're a busy guy. I'll make the exception. Now. Now I know, I know,

[00:57:40] Carl Lanore: [00:57:40] I know.

[00:57:41] No, you don't do anything to Anthony. Doesn't like Anthony likes to work. Keep his head down, love his family, but he doesn't like to be pop. He's not somebody who's searching

[00:57:51] Anthony Roberts: [00:57:51] for popularity or accolades at all, by any chance. In fact,

[00:57:54] Carl Lanore: [00:57:54] I named Anthony years ago, the pit bull of journalism, I [00:58:00] said. If Anthony ever gets his jaw on you and you're doing bad things, he doesn't let go

[00:58:07] Anthony Roberts: [00:58:07] until you're gone.

[00:58:08] And that's

[00:58:08] Carl Lanore: [00:58:08] the truth, isn't it? You've made a career doing some very, very heavy digging and exposing. Yeah.

[00:58:16] Anthony Roberts: [00:58:16] Yeah. I haven't been as active lately in terms of what the public sees, but that should change soon. And, um, hopefully it's more of that. Yeah. Definitely.

[00:58:25] Carl Lanore: [00:58:25] So Anthony was not only one of my earliest guests.

[00:58:28] Uh, we, Anthony and I talked about peptides and I just did a post on Facebook about this back in 2006, we talked about IGF one long R three versus just IGF one. Then after that, we did a show on MGF versus pegylated. We did shows on growth hormone several times, both because the Olympic. Uh, here in the United States, uh, the Chinese government embargoed, it kept it out of the United States.

[00:58:52] And then short, just like we said, once the Olympics is over, it's going to be back in it's here

[00:58:56] Anthony Roberts: [00:58:56] in, in, in

[00:58:57] Carl Lanore: [00:58:57] tonnage again. Um, we [00:59:00] did so many great shows and the reason we did those shows is because Anthony wrote the quintessential book. On anabolic steroids, it was called the anabolic steroid, uh, ultimate research guide,

[00:59:12] Anthony Roberts: [00:59:12] ultimate

[00:59:13] Carl Lanore: [00:59:13] anabolic steroid research.

[00:59:14] Anthony Roberts: [00:59:14] Maybe I got the wording, right.

[00:59:16] Carl Lanore: [00:59:16] And it had every single steroid, even some people didn't even know about and it gave their profile what it was good for, what the dosing was. So. Instead of going to the forums and asking some  guy, how much of this, or how much of that you just got the book and you read it.

[00:59:35] And it was an encyclopedia, but in it, it had peptides as well because Anthony was the only guy talking about peptides back then,

[00:59:42] Anthony Roberts: [00:59:42] right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, all this stuff, you know, you find most of it by making mistakes. Like, you know, you're looking something up, they're supposed to be anabolic.

[00:59:53] You're trying to register on profile. And now it's 2008, let's say, and you find SARMs or [01:00:00] it's, you know, 2006 or seven, a and you find stuff on peptides that have been around for 10 years already. Right. But you've made a mistake somehow when you're researching the search engine, took your list. Other weird thing that's, you know, arguably more

[01:00:16] Carl Lanore: [01:00:16] interesting.

[01:00:18] And Anthony holds the distinction of being the first. Guests I had on where we dedicated the entire hour of the show to just him. Because prior to that, I had two or three guests on per show

[01:00:32] Anthony Roberts: [01:00:32] and, and a one hour show

[01:00:35] Carl Lanore: [01:00:35] and it was hard, you know, you had to keep things, moving, keep things interesting. And I said to Anthony, when we were talking about this show where he was going to do, I was like, man, I think that we should just do this only.

[01:00:48] This is the only topic of the show. And not only was it. Did we run out of time, faster than we ran out of stuff to talk about, but it was like, it took the show to a new plateau that one show got passed [01:01:00] around. And I realized why, you know, if I do a show with three topics in it or four topics in it, and you like this topic here, you're not going to pass it around to your friends because you're not going to have to explain, well, just fast forward through the first interview, blah, blah, blah.

[01:01:15] When I found out the secret was just do a show or a one hour show dedicated to a topic that changed the format. So Anthony contributed to the changing of the,

[01:01:26] Anthony Roberts: [01:01:26] no, I remember that show too, because we did, we ran out of time and previously, you know, we were sort of cramming stuff in and then it was like, all right, we're done.

[01:01:35] Um, I think, I think the longer formats better, I also think maybe in the beginning when you weren't as experienced, you thought it'd be easier to have. You know, three different topics, you know? Um, and you had, you had like a color man, you know, as well, and you're on threat, so radio. Right. You know, it was very different time.

[01:01:55] Yeah. Yeah. In years now. Yeah.

[01:01:58] Carl Lanore: [01:01:58] And, and yeah, I didn't want to

[01:01:59] Anthony Roberts: [01:01:59] have to talk. I [01:02:00] want them to listen. I want them to

[01:02:00] Carl Lanore: [01:02:00] interview people, but now I contribute. So

[01:02:03] Anthony Roberts: [01:02:03] you're right. It's, it's a lot easier. Want me

[01:02:05] Carl Lanore: [01:02:05] to, so how are you?

[01:02:08] Anthony Roberts: [01:02:08] I'm good. How are you?

[01:02:09] Carl Lanore: [01:02:09] I'm doing great. You see Alyssa?

[01:02:12] Anthony Roberts: [01:02:12] Yes. Yeah, we were all wearing red. I,

[01:02:16] Carl Lanore: [01:02:16] at that, we didn't plan that.

[01:02:19] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:02:19] Not maybe because it's Christmas.

[01:02:21] Carl Lanore: [01:02:21] So I could be, I'll ask Anthony that someday when I die, I want him to

[01:02:26] Anthony Roberts: [01:02:26] write my book. Remember that? And I probably said, uh, of course for me. So anyway,

[01:02:36] Carl Lanore: [01:02:36] Elisa, do you have any questions for Anthony?

[01:02:40] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:02:40] No, I don't think so.

[01:02:41] Carl Lanore: [01:02:41] Anthony, you have a new article you were about to, this is a, an article like you haven't been writing much right

[01:02:47] Anthony Roberts: [01:02:47] now.

[01:02:48] I'll be writing you get time. It's just, if it hasn't been, uh, for public consumption, I've been doing like more behind the scenes research and writing. A very limited audience, but no, I just got, it was [01:03:00] published on muscle and fitness.com. Okay. That's huge.

[01:03:03] Carl Lanore: [01:03:03] That's a, that's a large platform and I read the article and you're talking about some stuff that I bet a lot of muscle and fitness readers never even think about.

[01:03:12] Like, you, you talk about Dan Dushane, like how many Muslim fitness, uh, readers you think have ever heard that name before? Uh, the

[01:03:22] Anthony Roberts: [01:03:22] one on ones you listened to your show. I mean, we did a whole show on him.

[01:03:25] Carl Lanore: [01:03:25] Yes. We did a show on Dushane alone. That's

[01:03:27] Anthony Roberts: [01:03:27] right. That's right.

[01:03:28] Carl Lanore: [01:03:28] Yeah. So this is exactly what's what's the article about tell the audience what the article's about.

[01:03:34] Anthony Roberts: [01:03:34] Sure. So the article basically goes into, I mean, it's very, it's approachable, it's conversational, but it goes into the sort of why steroids are illegal. Um, and I, you know, I draw some, some connections between different sporting scandals that happened that were immediately followed by new steroid acts. Um, and I think the connection is there and I think, you know, people want to give it a read.

[01:04:00] [01:04:00] Um, they'll see that, you know, these aren't, you know, some kind of save the children sorta, you know, keep steroids out of high school. This is more like, uh, professional athletes get busted and it's a good source of PR for, for Congress. Interesting.

[01:04:15] Carl Lanore: [01:04:15] Yeah, because these anabolic

[01:04:16] Anthony Roberts: [01:04:16] steroids that they're so desperately trying to get out of the hands of

[01:04:20] Carl Lanore: [01:04:20] average, people really are doing the harm.

[01:04:23] Anthony Roberts: [01:04:23] That lots of other things that are fine. So I started to study and I immediately thought of you, there was a study examined, um, deaths from anabolic steroids is the sole, um, you know, cause death or whatever they say. And the inclusion criteria for this study. Was the, they went back, let's say 30 years and they couldn't find any for like 10 of those years.

[01:04:51] So then, because they got a zero result, they said, well, we went back to the first year. We could find one, but that's not how [01:05:00] that works. Right. You have 20, I think it was 19 deaths over 20 years, but really it's 19 over 30. You can't just take out years and see, you know, those don't count. So. You know, I immediately thought that's sort of one of the details that you, you tend to key on key into, on your show, right?

[01:05:21] It's the stuff like that, that sorta, like, that's not how that works kind of, uh, that's

[01:05:26] Carl Lanore: [01:05:26] fascinating. So 19 over 30 years, 19 deaths from direct where anabolic steroids were the direct cause of death 19 over 30 years. And they're worried about people using them.

[01:05:37] Anthony Roberts: [01:05:37] Yeah. I mean it's. Yeah. I mean, obviously if you even look at the 20 years, it's still less than one per year.

[01:05:44] It's like, what's the statistic for almost any other drug Tylenol, Tylenol,

[01:05:50] Carl Lanore: [01:05:50] Tylenol kills a thousand people a month, I think. Right. Alyssa, what was the figure? You talked about it on casual Friday,

[01:05:55] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:05:55] once. Yeah. I'm not quite sure. And even opioids too.

[01:06:00] [01:06:00] Anthony Roberts: [01:06:00] Let's talk about  right. It's gotta be every few minutes at this point.

[01:06:04] Yeah, exactly. Very sad. Very sad.

[01:06:07] Carl Lanore: [01:06:07] It's maddening. Well, I want to thank you for your contributions to the show. I want to thank you

[01:06:13] Anthony Roberts: [01:06:13] for being a

[01:06:13] Carl Lanore: [01:06:13] friend. You're a good friend. We've had lots

[01:06:15] Anthony Roberts: [01:06:15] of heartfelt discussions when I was going through my divorce and they would stay on the phone with me. I'm sure he wants me to go

[01:06:21] Carl Lanore: [01:06:21] because I got other things to do.

[01:06:23] I really can't sit here much longer, but

[01:06:25] Anthony Roberts: [01:06:25] I want to thank you. I want to thank you a lot. No, thanks for having me on. It was, it was definitely formative in, in, you know, in my career as well. I mean, we're both starting out at the same time. Yes, that was sort of my first career. And it was your second career.

[01:06:40] Right? Right. You know, you did, you did talk about the other career and how much you hated doing that. So. Yeah, but no, it's been, it's been a great 15 years. I'm looking forward to 15 more. Thank you, brother. Take care of Matt. Thank

[01:06:57] Carl Lanore: [01:06:57] you to

[01:06:58] Anthony Roberts: [01:06:58] check out.

[01:06:58] Carl Lanore: [01:06:58] Anthony's a [01:07:00] article, go to muscle and

[01:07:00] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:00] fitness.com to read it.

[01:07:02] It's a fascinating article. Really.

[01:07:04] Carl Lanore: [01:07:04] Uh, Anthony writes better than anyone I know.

[01:07:07] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:07] And I'm sorry if that insults anybody that follows the show,

[01:07:11] Carl Lanore: [01:07:11] but when you read the way Anthony writes, it's just, he's got just the right

[01:07:15] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:15] amount of dry humor

[01:07:16] Carl Lanore: [01:07:16] that rewards people who pay attention to life.

[01:07:20] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:20] Uh, and, and,

[01:07:21] Carl Lanore: [01:07:21] but th th his, his research is, is,

[01:07:24] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:24] is beyond anybody's.

[01:07:26] Carl Lanore: [01:07:26] So you have a question for me, Elisa.

[01:07:28] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:07:28] I do. Now you may have already answered this question,

[01:07:31] Carl Lanore: [01:07:31] but I love to talk.

[01:07:32] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:32] I'll answer it again. Yeah.

[01:07:36] Carl Lanore: [01:07:36] I said that's okay. I love to talk, I'll answer it over.

[01:07:40] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:07:40] If you had to choose one show that was groundbreaking, which one would that be and why?

[01:07:47] Carl Lanore: [01:07:47] I think it would have to be,

[01:07:49] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:49] uh, of

[01:07:51] Carl Lanore: [01:07:51] doves, diplomats and diabetes,

[01:07:54] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:54] because

[01:07:56] Carl Lanore: [01:07:56] that is the show.

[01:07:58] That made me

[01:07:59] Anthony Roberts: [01:07:59] go, [01:08:00] Oh, man, evolution is

[01:08:02] Carl Lanore: [01:08:02] way more important

[01:08:04] Anthony Roberts: [01:08:04] than we think.

[01:08:06] Carl Lanore: [01:08:06] And this is when I talk about evolution, you can still be as a religious person. When I'm talking about evolution, I'm talking about, regardless of when you think humanity

[01:08:17] Anthony Roberts: [01:08:17] started on this planet. Okay.

[01:08:19] Carl Lanore: [01:08:19] There are things that have shaped us.

[01:08:23] The exposure to things that have caused what we now know are epigenetic translations. It's still happening. Now. I just talked about it, uh, yesterday, the day before, I'm not going to get into it again now,

[01:08:36] Anthony Roberts: [01:08:36] um, uh, with Joel

[01:08:38] Carl Lanore: [01:08:38] yesterday, but you know, when you look at, when you look at evolution and you look at diseases, It makes sense while you get a disease.

[01:08:49] Oh, that makes sense. Like, like, you know, all these studies coming out that saying that, you know, lack of movement is kills more people than tobacco and, and this and that combined well, yeah, because [01:09:00] we moved 20 hours a day. No, we slept indoors, but we were outdoors the rest of the time, which means that we got a lot more sun exposure and light exposure and all these different things that just Mount up on you go, Oh my God, like this evolution thing really matters.

[01:09:17] And Dr. Mullin, Wafi his book of dove diplomat in diabetes shows how risk activity, stress influence. What you, your food does for you after you eat it? He, the studies are profound. It's like, Oh my God. So when you just get up and go to the refrigerator, there's no risk. There's very little activity. There's no stress and you get food and you eat it.

[01:09:45] It turns to fat versus when you. Replicate what you would have done thousands of years ago, which is either go out there and find the food and work for hours to find it or catch an animal. Um, [01:10:00] and there's a degree of stress to that. There's a degree of risk to that. There's, there's a lot of activity to that.

[01:10:06] And then the food becomes something. And when you see that you go, Oh my God. So like, like we can't escape evolution. And then that led to me, uh, uh, reading, um, Dr. Daniel Lieberman's book, uh, the story of the human body. And then that, then that was it. I remember holding that book in my hand. I was like halfway through it, laying in bed.

[01:10:29] And, you know, I was laying there like this, and I just had the book like this,

[01:10:32] Anthony Roberts: [01:10:32] know my green screen is moving again

[01:10:34] Carl Lanore: [01:10:34] and looking at my fingers and going, Oh my God, like my fingers look like a chimpanzee's fingers. Like I had an epiphany that minute. We're not that far away from those people. We're actually closer to them than we are close to the future people that we're becoming.

[01:10:52] So those, those two shows right there

[01:10:54] Anthony Roberts: [01:10:54] will profound.

[01:10:55] Carl Lanore: [01:10:55] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:10:57] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:10:57] Okay. So, um, super [01:11:00] human radio has helped so many people throughout the past 15 years. Can you share a few of the stories that stick out in your mind?

[01:11:09] Carl Lanore: [01:11:09] There is so many, first of all, I don't know if all podcasts hosts do this, but I answer every single email, every single message, Facebook, Instagram, I don't necessarily answer them fast enough to satisfy people because people usually coming to me that need an answer.

[01:11:26] Now, you know, my father had a stroke and, and if I had maybe two extra days a week, Where I could just focus on that. I could answer everybody

[01:11:36] Anthony Roberts: [01:11:36] faster,

[01:11:37] Carl Lanore: [01:11:37] but those emails are not only asking for help, but then afterwards they're getting back to me and going, wow. You know, that really did something for me. Uh, um, and some of them have just like some of them don't, you don't even see coming some of these,

[01:11:54] Anthony Roberts: [01:11:54] these emails.

[01:11:56] Carl Lanore: [01:11:56] There's a guy who emailed me yesterday and said, he, [01:12:00] I heard the show that I did with Dr. Betsy earth on PE 22, 28, which eliminates anxiety

[01:12:07] Anthony Roberts: [01:12:07] and depression. And

[01:12:10] Carl Lanore: [01:12:10] he, so you saw my video where I show people how to make their own intra-nasal PE 22, 28. So I empower people to take action and give them the tools that they need to do it themselves.

[01:12:22] And he said he has a daughter who's struggled with anxiety and depression for a long time.

[01:12:28] Anthony Roberts: [01:12:28] And

[01:12:29] Carl Lanore: [01:12:29] yeah, he listened to the show. He got the peptide, he made the stuff and she took a 400 microgram shot in one nostril. She did it for five days and he already sees a change in her. And he wants to just keep watching, because it takes about, takes about 25 to 28 days.

[01:12:44] I think we talked about. Well, it's a really start to have an effect, but he says, he thinks he sees it already. She's happier. She's has more energy, all of a sudden. And he's and I said, well, keep me posted. So.

[01:12:58] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:12:58] I love hearing stories like that.

[01:13:00] [01:12:59] Carl Lanore: [01:12:59] I know I love them too. You know, when I first started doing this show, Jesse's, you know, kind of alluded to it.

[01:13:05] This was a, this wasn't a job. Like I just want her to do this show, like I said before, because I want their finances for my own health and

[01:13:13] Anthony Roberts: [01:13:13] I,

[01:13:14] Carl Lanore: [01:13:14] the first year and a half that I did the show. I cost me money to do the show. In fact, my first advert paying advertiser was Jeff Ruby. The guy. Yeah, the guy who owned my gym and he was like, yeah, I'll ever touch.

[01:13:29] Cause don't forget I was local and podcasts, but I was local. I was to the local market. We, we advertise his gym, but in the beginning it costs me money to do this show and it was kind of a hobby. It was, but it just evolved

[01:13:44] Anthony Roberts: [01:13:44] into a job because

[01:13:47] Carl Lanore: [01:13:47] every time I would think to myself, I can't do this anymore.

[01:13:51] Like, um, um, you know, frustrated a piece of equipment broke. I got to take money out of my pocket to replace it. I'd get an email from somebody who would say, I just want to [01:14:00] let you know that, you know, I followed you followed your show. I lost 50 pounds in like seven months and I feel amazing. And I, and I was like, okay.

[01:14:07] I, that made me feel good. And it made me feel like, okay,

[01:14:11] Anthony Roberts: [01:14:11] I gotta go on.

[01:14:12] Carl Lanore: [01:14:12] I got to keep doing this.

[01:14:15] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:14:15] So do you think that there's a unique skill that you have that has contributed to your success?

[01:14:22] Carl Lanore: [01:14:22] I don't stop talking

[01:14:26] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:14:26] night when you take your lips shut.

[01:14:28] Anthony Roberts: [01:14:28] You know,

[01:14:29] Carl Lanore: [01:14:29] people probably don't think I really do that,

[01:14:30] Anthony Roberts: [01:14:30] but I take my mouth every night.

[01:14:32] Carl Lanore: [01:14:32] Um, you know, uh, probably the inquisitiveness, I just never run out of interest. Everything is exciting to me. Everything is new. Everything is exciting to me. I just want it. I want more answers. I just I'm that kid that my mother used to say, would you shut up now? You know, would you shut up? Why is a crooked letter?

[01:14:51] You know? Cause it goes every S every one of my sentences started with Y

[01:14:56] Anthony Roberts: [01:14:56] so I think that's, it. That's really it. That's my [01:15:00] superpower.

[01:15:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:15:00] That's your super power.

[01:15:01] Carl Lanore: [01:15:01] Yeah, I'm in, I'm in eternally inquisitive and eternally optimistic. I am. I really am.

[01:15:06] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:15:06] But don't lose that because that's, that's a great

[01:15:09] Carl Lanore: [01:15:09] attribute.

[01:15:10] Can't lose it. I look, I went during my divorce. I went through hell. I really did, and I didn't lose it then. I mean, I was bitter at the court system and the way they allowed,

[01:15:23] Anthony Roberts: [01:15:23] uh, my ex wife to kind of wield

[01:15:26] Carl Lanore: [01:15:26] her wishes

[01:15:27] Anthony Roberts: [01:15:27] and carved what ended up being over $400,000 out of me over

[01:15:31] Carl Lanore: [01:15:31] time, which I didn't have. I didn't have that money.

[01:15:34] I was doing this show. I was, you know, I'm paying to do the show. Sometimes I was not, I didn't have the money, but the court system didn't care. But even through all of that, I loved what I was doing.

[01:15:46] Anthony Roberts: [01:15:46] I was happy with my life.

[01:15:48] Carl Lanore: [01:15:48] Uh,

[01:15:48] Anthony Roberts: [01:15:48] I

[01:15:49] Carl Lanore: [01:15:49] I'm

[01:15:49] Anthony Roberts: [01:15:49] I'm eternally optimistic. I am.

[01:15:51] Carl Lanore: [01:15:51] I said this once before to somebody, I says, I'm kind of like a junkyard dog.

[01:15:56] Anthony Roberts: [01:15:56] I'm tied out on that [01:16:00] fence and it's snowing again.

[01:16:04] Carl Lanore: [01:16:04] And I am shivering and freezing, but I'm standing there looking at the house and I think to myself,

[01:16:09] Anthony Roberts: [01:16:09] any minute, now they're going to open that door and let me in

[01:16:12] Carl Lanore: [01:16:12] any minute, I just got to less than another minute. And so I really am eternally optimistic and in the face of everything

[01:16:18] Anthony Roberts: [01:16:18] in my life,

[01:16:19] Carl Lanore: [01:16:19] Yeah.

[01:16:21] Uh, we're going to, uh, let's see here. We're going to play some videos real quick. So let's get, let's get to this because this will help me shut my mouth for a little while. We have so many great videos from people. So let's play this. Oh, this is Scott Stevenson. He did this video backstage at a competition.

[01:16:39] Carla, Nora,

[01:16:40] Randy Roach: [01:16:40] you're a true inspiration.

[01:16:42] Carl Lanore: [01:16:42] And you are a pioneer. My friend, Elizabeth, your theater,

[01:16:46] Anthony Roberts: [01:16:46] just checking in to wish Karl and R

[01:16:48] Carl Lanore: [01:16:48] and superhuman radio, a happy 15th anniversary.

[01:16:53] Anthony Roberts: [01:16:53] Happy 50th anniversary to superhuman radio, happy

[01:16:58] Carl Lanore: [01:16:58] 50th [01:17:00] anniversary to super

[01:17:00] Anthony Roberts: [01:17:00] human radio. Scott Stevenson backstage at the

[01:17:05] Carl Lanore: [01:17:05] amateur.

[01:17:07] I

[01:17:07] Anthony Roberts: [01:17:07] remember distinctly. Being excited for every single show that came out and I followed up and become great friends with Carl. One of my closest friends, basically family, and I've loved to see the evolution of the show. So

[01:17:19] Carl Lanore: [01:17:19] happy birthday

[01:17:19] Anthony Roberts: [01:17:19] to super human radio and congratulations to Carl for creating something so special.

[01:17:27] So, um, the

[01:17:29] Carl Lanore: [01:17:29] Scott Stevenson was at the end and he was actually backstage getting ready to step on stage to compete. And he

[01:17:34] Anthony Roberts: [01:17:34] took the time to make that, which was really, really sweet of him. Uh, I think everybody recognized Aaron cinnamon's voice.

[01:17:40] Carl Lanore: [01:17:40] So when Aaron and I were doing off topic, we would go to the Olympia and we would just be standing there talking and people would recognize us because of our voices.

[01:17:50] So he has a very, that's what I said to him. When I first talked to him on the phone, I say, I said to him, You know, you have a great voice for radio.

[01:17:59] Anthony Roberts: [01:17:59] And he was,

[01:18:00] [01:17:59] Carl Lanore: [01:17:59] he was like,

[01:18:00] Anthony Roberts: [01:18:00] he, I think he chuckled. He was like, Oh yeah,

[01:18:02] Carl Lanore: [01:18:02] I think he thought I was ribbing him. And then when Dave Palumbo came to me and said, how would you like to do a podcast for muscular development?

[01:18:09] I was like, absolutely. And I went to Aaron and I said, let's do this podcast. We'll be raunchy and raw in people's faces, irreverent, like Howard stern meets bodybuilding. We'll call it off topic. And Aaron and I really started on muscular development's website, but then. Dave Palumbo left muscular development

[01:18:30] Anthony Roberts: [01:18:30] on bad terms.

[01:18:31] You know, he had a fallen

[01:18:32] Carl Lanore: [01:18:32] out with, with Steve Blackman and so he started RX muscle and he said to us, come here, come here, do the show here.

[01:18:39] Anthony Roberts: [01:18:39] And we, and that's

[01:18:40] Carl Lanore: [01:18:40] how off topic really got started,

[01:18:42] Anthony Roberts: [01:18:42] but I knew he had a voice for radio. They

[01:18:44] Carl Lanore: [01:18:44] said, everybody, you can hear Aaron cinnamon's voice without

[01:18:47] Anthony Roberts: [01:18:47] seeing them and know that it's Aaron cinnamon.

[01:18:51] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:18:51] Um, you're breaking up a little bit. I'm sorry.

[01:18:54] Anthony Roberts: [01:18:54] Yeah, no, I hear you just fine. 

[01:18:58] Carl Lanore: [01:18:58] the microphone, the

[01:18:59] Anthony Roberts: [01:18:59] speaker in the [01:19:00] phone.

[01:19:00] Carl Lanore: [01:19:00] Anyway, what other questions

[01:19:01] Anthony Roberts: [01:19:01] do you have? Lisa?

[01:19:02] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:19:02] What's the most flattering comment that you've ever received from one of your guests?

[01:19:10] Anthony Roberts: [01:19:10] Oh gosh.

[01:19:12] Carl Lanore: [01:19:12] Didn't I, I thought of somebody earlier, but I've received so many flattering.

[01:19:17] I think the most. Flattering comments.

[01:19:21] Anthony Roberts: [01:19:21] I get

[01:19:22] Carl Lanore: [01:19:22] it's it's it's it's not one comment. It's a conglomeration of, of people. So I regularly, regularly hear guests. Scientists intelligent people publishing studies that during the interview, I started asking questions and going down a different path with them.

[01:19:40] Anthony Roberts: [01:19:40] And

[01:19:41] Carl Lanore: [01:19:41] then I say, boy, be interesting to find out if this and this happened, when that happens.

[01:19:45] And I've had more guests over the years, say to me, You know, uh, we're going to do that, that what you said, I think that's going to be our next study or, or I've had guests say to me, we're going to give that a try. And if, and if we get this study on, we'll put your name on this study and I've said, Oh, that'd be wonderful.

[01:20:00] [01:20:00] I know they can't do that.

[01:20:01] Anthony Roberts: [01:20:01] They can't do that.

[01:20:02] Carl Lanore: [01:20:02] But I think that's the most flattering when I have a scientist on the show and I'm extracting information from them. And it turns out that they're extracting information

[01:20:11] Anthony Roberts: [01:20:11] from me.

[01:20:13] Carl Lanore: [01:20:13] That's that to me, that's very flattering.

[01:20:15] Anthony Roberts: [01:20:15] It's like, Oh my God. Like, I actually understand this well enough

[01:20:18] Carl Lanore: [01:20:18] to contribute to their research.

[01:20:21] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:20:21] You had that happened last week with one of your, one of your doctors. I think that said they were going to put your name on their

[01:20:27] Carl Lanore: [01:20:27] next study. W I forget what it was, but

[01:20:31] Anthony Roberts: [01:20:31] I

[01:20:32] Carl Lanore: [01:20:32] asked him questions and he was like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right. The Iowasca Amazonian T he was like that. He said that, you know, we're going to, we're going to try that.

[01:20:42] We didn't think of that, whatever it was that I suggested. And then at the end of the show, he says that if we get the study on, we'll

[01:20:47] Anthony Roberts: [01:20:47] put your name on it. I said, thank you. That'll be part of my legacy.

[01:20:50] Carl Lanore: [01:20:50] Yeah. Yeah. That's the most flattering. That's, that's pretty much Folsom.

[01:20:54] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:20:54] So if you could have one super power, what would

[01:20:57] Anthony Roberts: [01:20:57] that be?

[01:20:58] God,

[01:21:02] [01:21:00] I think I got enough superpowers for one life. I really do.

[01:21:04] Carl Lanore: [01:21:04] I'm really fortunate.

[01:21:05] Anthony Roberts: [01:21:05] Very blessed.

[01:21:06] Carl Lanore: [01:21:06] I really am. I see there's a lot of people out there

[01:21:08] Anthony Roberts: [01:21:08] who don't have the luxuries, uh, or the people in their lives. You, I mean, I, I don't know that I need any more superpowers,

[01:21:18] Carl Lanore: [01:21:18] I guess. If I had one superpower, if I could have one superpower, what would it be?

[01:21:23] It would be just to reach more people because I know I'm not,

[01:21:28] Anthony Roberts: [01:21:28] I'm not, I'm patting myself on my own back

[01:21:32] Carl Lanore: [01:21:32] when I say that there's a lot more people we could help if we could just get them to hear this message. You know, when I asked Joel, when we talked about where,

[01:21:41] Anthony Roberts: [01:21:41] um,

[01:21:42] Carl Lanore: [01:21:42] spirituality, religion meets science, And I told him how frustrating it is when I see people posting on Facebook

[01:21:50] Anthony Roberts: [01:21:50] going, you know, then I'm going to use an absurd

[01:21:53] Carl Lanore: [01:21:53] example.

[01:21:54] No, I have a cold, please say prayers

[01:21:56] Anthony Roberts: [01:21:56] for me. And

[01:21:57] Carl Lanore: [01:21:57] like, no, you can get over a cold. I mean, the things that I [01:22:00] understand when I see people say I have COVID please say prayers for me.

[01:22:04] Anthony Roberts: [01:22:04] And I, and I actually

[01:22:05] Carl Lanore: [01:22:05] posted on some people, a Z-Pak and 50,000 IUs of vitamin D three a day for about two weeks. Like you don't need the prayers, just do that.

[01:22:15] And he said, well, don't get frustrated with those people because they don't know

[01:22:21] Anthony Roberts: [01:22:21] that there are other

[01:22:21] Carl Lanore: [01:22:21] things they can do. So they're up against the wall. So they ask for prayers. And so I guess if I could have one superpower, it would be, be to be able to somehow beam this information to more people in the world so that more people in the world could take the actions like this father did with his daughter.

[01:22:43] And, and find solutions. That's, that's all I want. And, and, and, and I'll tell you what, I mean, what I would say right now, if I didn't make another penny more than I make right now, reaching those millions of people more, I'd be happy. Just, just getting the [01:23:00] turnout because everybody today expects to get a disease and you don't have to, we've been convinced subliminally.

[01:23:09] Anthony Roberts: [01:23:09] Oh, you know, uh,

[01:23:10] Carl Lanore: [01:23:10] your, your, your cholesterol has more to do with, uh, your

[01:23:13] Anthony Roberts: [01:23:13] genetics than your diet. That's

[01:23:15] Carl Lanore: [01:23:15] bull shit. I mean, come on. I just did I'll believe it. If I have

[01:23:21] Anthony Roberts: [01:23:21] to, if anybody's insulted, let me know.

[01:23:23] Carl Lanore: [01:23:23] I mean, I it's, just, to me, it's, there's so many people out there that if they just had the right information and they understood what actions to take, they would have much better lives.

[01:23:36] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:23:36] Well, I've heard so many people say, well, it's just genetics. And, and I have to get, you know, I have an autoimmune disease and it it's genetics. It runs in my family and it doesn't have to be that way.

[01:23:52] Carl Lanore: [01:23:52] If anything, if anything shows that it's not just a genetics, it's, it's one group [01:24:00] of studies. On women with the BRCA gene.

[01:24:04] And these are mottos. I got a twins.

[01:24:07] Anthony Roberts: [01:24:07] Okay.

[01:24:08] Carl Lanore: [01:24:08] They both have the BRCA genes. They both go in different directions in life. One sister gets breast cancer, one sister doesn't. If it was only genes, they both would get

[01:24:18] Anthony Roberts: [01:24:18] breast cancer.

[01:24:19] Carl Lanore: [01:24:19] And when you realize that when you stop and you think to yourself, wait a minute, what did the other sister do differently that she didn't get breast cancer?

[01:24:29] Like, we're always looking at what the sister who got breast cancer did not even did like, well, what is like, wait a minute, like I even said this to a scientist on the show one day I said, I would be more interested in the people who didn't get sick. Why didn't they get,

[01:24:43] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:24:43] that's been kind of what we've discussed for so many years, years ago when we were doing casual Friday before, because so many of the women, uh, people in my family have had auto immune diseases.

[01:24:57] And why, why have

[01:24:59] Anthony Roberts: [01:24:59] I [01:25:00] not

[01:25:01] Carl Lanore: [01:25:01] arthritis? So many of them, rheumatoid arthritis, uh, you have, uh, I don't want to say, uh, but you have a sibling that, that has a Hashimoto's I think,

[01:25:14] Anthony Roberts: [01:25:14] or something like that.

[01:25:14] Carl Lanore: [01:25:14] So, I mean, yeah, you're right. It's um, again at that shows, what did you do differently now? There were a lot of people who don't want to know.

[01:25:25] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:25:25] Because then they have to change something.

[01:25:28] Carl Lanore: [01:25:28] Then they have to give up, you know, they're high, sugar smoothies, four days a week or five days a week, or they have to stop smoking or they have to stop eating

[01:25:37] Anthony Roberts: [01:25:37] pasta every day and they love it.

[01:25:39] Carl Lanore: [01:25:39] You know, it's like, and that, to me, that's silly. It's just silly.

[01:25:42] Like I give up, what's killing you. Why not?

[01:25:48] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:25:48] Right. It's interesting. Like, so to go to a doctor's office and. You know my age at 61, I said it and I don't take medications. I take [01:26:00] supplements over the counter supplements, but they can't believe that because so many people are so sick at our age

[01:26:07] Anthony Roberts: [01:26:07] and you're aging better than anyone.

[01:26:08] I know. That's the God's honest truth.

[01:26:10] Carl Lanore: [01:26:10] Elisa has model sleep. She gets two hours of REM and two hours of deep sleep every night, like

[01:26:16] Anthony Roberts: [01:26:16] clockwork.

[01:26:17] Carl Lanore: [01:26:17] Um, she, she she's aging. I'm jealous how good she's aging. But part of it is because she gets 16,000 steps a day. Like on average, there are days where she gets 20, 23.

[01:26:30] I mean, she's moving all the time. She's always doing something and I that, Hey,

[01:26:36] Anthony Roberts: [01:26:36] we

[01:26:37] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:26:37] got

[01:26:37] Carl Lanore: [01:26:37] 38,000 steps, three days in a row. She got almost 40,000 steps. And, and you know, and that, and I feel horrible. I sit behind this desk for hours a day, and then I haven't been going to the gym lately. And then I go home and I sit and I eat.

[01:26:49] Then I get in bed and I sleep. And like you are in P U R F D. If you were a Saint, you'd be the patron Saint of perpetual motion. [01:27:00] Okay. So here we have got, I'm sorry.

[01:27:04] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:27:04] Oh, go ahead. You're going to go to a break.

[01:27:06] Carl Lanore: [01:27:06] You know what? I was going to go to a video first and then go to a break. Let's do that. So here's

[01:27:09] Anthony Roberts: [01:27:09] another video of well-wishers wishing us a happy anniversary.

[01:27:12] Carl Lanore: [01:27:12] Congratulations, Carl, many more anniversaries to come, man. I've been listening to the show since 2005,

[01:27:19] Anthony Roberts: [01:27:19] always been impressed

[01:27:20] Carl Lanore: [01:27:20] by the international scope, bringing us cutting edge research, Carl, nor I applaud you. You have been.

[01:27:27] Anthony Roberts: [01:27:27] The

[01:27:27] Carl Lanore: [01:27:27] greatest host that I can think of for the last 15 years, um, you have constantly assembled the best guests, the best topics, the best team.

[01:27:38] Uh, hi, this is lane Norton and I just wanted to say happy 50th

[01:27:42] Anthony Roberts: [01:27:42] anniversary to superhuman radio. Congratulations. On 15 years, superhuman radio, you do great work, helping us stay strong and live the best life that we can live. It's so nice to hear really is

[01:27:58] Carl Lanore: [01:27:58] because I, I do the show. [01:28:00] Yeah. Kirkland was the

[01:28:02] Anthony Roberts: [01:28:02] one who said I assembled the best shows and guests and

[01:28:06] Carl Lanore: [01:28:06] Kirkland is a big contributor to the show.

[01:28:08] I mean, he contributes a lot. He Kirkland is the guy who found the oxytocin trend. Balone study for me. Oh really? Oh yeah. He said, you're going to love this. And he sent it to me. I was like,

[01:28:19] Anthony Roberts: [01:28:19] Oh my God.

[01:28:20] Carl Lanore: [01:28:20] Like the reason trend Balone builds muscle is because of oxytocin. Like we could just use oxytocin instead.

[01:28:26] Then I started doing the digging. And then you, you found this study on oxytocin and, and bone marrow.

[01:28:34] Anthony Roberts: [01:28:34] I don't think you can hear me. Can you hear me? I think we just lost it. Oh, okay.

[01:28:41] Carl Lanore: [01:28:41] Okay. Did you get, did you get a text or something? It

[01:28:44] Anthony Roberts: [01:28:44] blocks it, right? Yeah, exactly.

[01:28:48] Carl Lanore: [01:28:48] But you found the oxytocin and bone mineral study that shows that oxytocin, reverses osteoporosis in women.

[01:28:56] So oxytocin is magic. Uh, we [01:29:00] have a question from a viewer listener we're going to get to right after this commercial break, stay tuned. Drew are

[01:29:04] Anthony Roberts: [01:29:04] watching the 15 year anniversary show here at superhuman radio station.

[01:29:19] welcome

[01:29:19] Carl Lanore: [01:29:19] back, dammit. I keep leaning back and moving my curtain

[01:29:25] Anthony Roberts: [01:29:25] and the

[01:29:25] Carl Lanore: [01:29:25] green. I can't wait for the new

[01:29:26] Anthony Roberts: [01:29:26] studio to be finished.

[01:29:28] Carl Lanore: [01:29:28] Do you know the guy who's working on that studio is a lazy ass. Oh, it's me.

[01:29:35] Good. You

[01:29:36] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:29:36] have a question from a listener.

[01:29:38] Anthony Roberts: [01:29:38] Yes, I do. So let's get that up there. Thank you for reminding me. My brain just took a

[01:29:42] Carl Lanore: [01:29:42] vacation for a second Rigo Vargas, who is

[01:29:44] Anthony Roberts: [01:29:44] a long-time listener and we communicate

[01:29:46] Carl Lanore: [01:29:46] often. He said, how did you, you meet coach Rob? How did the blueprint power hour

[01:29:50] Anthony Roberts: [01:29:50] come about? I can,

[01:29:52] Carl Lanore: [01:29:52] I can actually thank, um, Vince and rich.

[01:29:58] Anthony Roberts: [01:29:58] For connecting me with coach Rob. [01:30:00] And here's how it happened.

[01:30:01] Carl Lanore: [01:30:01] I was producing,

[01:30:02] Anthony Roberts: [01:30:02] um, Dr. Scott Connolly's podcast and, uh, it was Scott,

[01:30:09] Carl Lanore: [01:30:09] Vince, and me, we will

[01:30:10] Anthony Roberts: [01:30:10] co-host but I was actually the one producing it. I was behind the board doing all the, all the work and then I would jump in here and there. Um,

[01:30:19] Carl Lanore: [01:30:19] Scott wanted me to be on the show because he felt that I was seasoned enough

[01:30:23] Anthony Roberts: [01:30:23] to kind of.

[01:30:24] Carl Lanore: [01:30:24] Keep it all together.

[01:30:26] Anthony Roberts: [01:30:26] And

[01:30:26] Carl Lanore: [01:30:26] Rob was a guest. Uh, Rob had written the first blueprint, bull, a blueprint, uh,

[01:30:33] Anthony Roberts: [01:30:33] training manual, and Vince had got a copy of it and he liked it. He liked what Rob was

[01:30:39] Carl Lanore: [01:30:39] doing. And Rob was on the show. Rob was actually Rob  was on the show

[01:30:44] Anthony Roberts: [01:30:44] with, um,

[01:30:47] Carl Lanore: [01:30:47] Rob Wolf.

[01:30:50] Anthony Roberts: [01:30:50] And

[01:30:50] Carl Lanore: [01:30:50] it was the funniest exchange because Rob ruggish is a simple guy, you know, he's a down to earth

[01:30:56] Anthony Roberts: [01:30:56] guy he's, you know, and, and Rob Wolf [01:31:00] is a very intellectual, you know, high level, uh, both athlete and, and also

[01:31:06] Carl Lanore: [01:31:06] author and speaker

[01:31:08] Anthony Roberts: [01:31:08] and

[01:31:09] Carl Lanore: [01:31:09] Rob Wolf.

[01:31:11] Anthony Roberts: [01:31:11] Talked about a study that showed that

[01:31:13] Carl Lanore: [01:31:13] if you put an Apple in a jar, a monkey will go in and grab it,

[01:31:16] Anthony Roberts: [01:31:16] but not have

[01:31:17] Carl Lanore: [01:31:17] the intelligence to let go. So they, they, they can trap monkeys. They can like one of the ways they catch monkeys is they take this, this can with a bottleneck on it, chain it to a tree, put like an Apple or something in it.

[01:31:33] When the monkey goes in and grabs it. He can't get his hand out because his fist is now bigger than the opening that he went into and the monkey's too stupid to let go of the Apple and run away. So they just stand there holding the Apple and then they come and they take the monkey.

[01:31:49] Anthony Roberts: [01:31:49] And

[01:31:50] Carl Lanore: [01:31:50] something about the discussion.

[01:31:52] Rob  was kind of on the other side of

[01:31:55] Anthony Roberts: [01:31:55] the opinion that Rob Wolf used that analogy

[01:32:00] [01:32:00] Carl Lanore: [01:32:00] for Rob Gregor said,

[01:32:02] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:02] well, I don't know nothing about going. To Borneo or wherever the, you know, Borneo, you know, I, I, uh, but I know, I know one thing about training and, you know, he

[01:32:10] Carl Lanore: [01:32:10] just, and I just remember thinking to myself, man, this guy he's good.

[01:32:13] He, he's not going to cower because Rob Wolf casts a much bigger shadow than, than he did at that

[01:32:20] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:20] time.

[01:32:22] Carl Lanore: [01:32:22] And we stayed in touch. And then I had him on superior radio to talk about the blueprint.

[01:32:27] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:27] And he got an overwhelming response and he's like,

[01:32:30] Carl Lanore: [01:32:30] how can I, how can I, uh,

[01:32:31] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:31] advertise on your show?

[01:32:33] Carl Lanore: [01:32:33] And that's really how it started.

[01:32:35] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:35] That's how, that's, how it all started.

[01:32:37] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:32:37] And that's an interesting story.

[01:32:38] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:38] Scott Dodd says,

[01:32:40] Carl Lanore: [01:32:40] yo congrats, Carl

[01:32:41] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:41] and Elisa. Of course. Uh,

[01:32:43] Carl Lanore: [01:32:43] been here since before super DMZ S

[01:32:47] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:47] was advertising on the podcast. I've been here

[01:32:50] Carl Lanore: [01:32:50] before the blueprint.

[01:32:51] Anthony Roberts: [01:32:51] Yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to all of you who have been here.

[01:32:56] Carl Lanore: [01:32:56] Want to play some more videos? You have another question. Um,

[01:33:00] [01:33:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:33:00] go ahead and play some videos. And then I'll ask you the other couple of questions that I have.

[01:33:05] Carl Lanore: [01:33:05] Okay. So here are some, uh, individual videos. This one is from

[01:33:09] Anthony Roberts: [01:33:09] a guy who's been listening for a long time in the UK,

[01:33:14] Carl Lanore: [01:33:14] Mark

[01:33:14] Anthony Roberts: [01:33:14] Tyler here from the UK, just wanting to congratulate your call on the fantastic achievement and milestone you've achieved with the Superman radio show.

[01:33:21] I'm under no surprises. That that has happened because the content and information you provide is truly outstanding. And so far ahead of the curve, the mainstream, now many just coming into contact with the information that you've been talking about since 2005. Um, now. For me personally, you've always come back to me with, um, great advice when there were already questions.

[01:33:41] Uh, and I've used that information and the advice you provided to, um, guide my own health outcomes and the health heart comes from my family. When my dad has a stroke, he reached out to you and you come back with some great information, which we, um, believe helped my, that fare better from [01:34:00] recovering from that stroke.

[01:34:01] Um, so yeah. Just a long madness of human right now. You shall continue. And congratulations. Yeah. Mark. So Mark

[01:34:09] Carl Lanore: [01:34:09] Taylor, his brother,

[01:34:11] Anthony Roberts: [01:34:11] um, they all

[01:34:12] Carl Lanore: [01:34:12] listened to the show, but I think Mark is the one who got them. Uh,

[01:34:15] Anthony Roberts: [01:34:15] got, got them started.

[01:34:16] Carl Lanore: [01:34:16] Let's see who this video is. I'm not sure who this is. I'm just gonna pop it up, bro.

[01:34:21] Uh, big girl,

[01:34:22] Anthony Roberts: [01:34:22] big Wade here. Congratulations. On 15 years, congratulations to you

[01:34:26] Carl Lanore: [01:34:26] and Alyssa. Um,

[01:34:28] Anthony Roberts: [01:34:28] I remember when this started and all the different shows we've done

[01:34:33] Carl Lanore: [01:34:33] a lot of times when I didn't have all this gray continued success and keep up the good fight.

[01:34:38] Anthony Roberts: [01:34:38] Love you brother. That was a nice surprise. He must have just said

[01:34:42] Carl Lanore: [01:34:42] he just texted me.

[01:34:43] He said, I'm listening to this show. It's great. And. Then all of a sudden I got Natalie must've just because Natalie's working today.

[01:34:51] Anthony Roberts: [01:34:51] She's actually in the background continuing to put stuff up and videos and stuff

[01:34:57] Carl Lanore: [01:34:57] like that. So she must've just posted that just now. [01:35:00] So I was sitting in front of Jeff Ruiz,

[01:35:02] Anthony Roberts: [01:35:02] Jim, after a power before a powerlifting event telling Wade that I was going to stop this

[01:35:09] Carl Lanore: [01:35:09] radio show

[01:35:10] Anthony Roberts: [01:35:10] about bodybuilding.

[01:35:11] And

[01:35:11] Carl Lanore: [01:35:11] I remember, you know, wait, wait is, um, uh, he's, he's actually,

[01:35:15] Anthony Roberts: [01:35:15] uh, uh, um,

[01:35:17] Carl Lanore: [01:35:17] Relatively quiet guy when you're just talking to him, you know, he has something to contribute, but he's not boisterous or anything

[01:35:22] Anthony Roberts: [01:35:22] like that.

[01:35:23] Carl Lanore: [01:35:23] And I remember him looking at me, he had these, his beard was braided and it had like beads at the bottom of it.

[01:35:28] And he had this wild hair back then he had

[01:35:30] Anthony Roberts: [01:35:30] the wild black hair and this guy, you know, I've, I've seen him squat seven, eight, 900 pounds. Like he was just massive, massively strong. I

[01:35:37] Carl Lanore: [01:35:37] said, yeah, I'm going to start this podcast. He was like, Oh yeah, good. And I don't think anybody knew back then. In fact, Billy Mitchell asked me this morning.

[01:35:45] Did you think, did you even think that 15 years later you'd still be doing this? I said, I didn't even think about it. And it's thought out as a hobby, it started out as a way for me to get information, to save my own life and look what it, I said, liquidity, it took on a, a [01:36:00] personality and a

[01:36:00] Anthony Roberts: [01:36:00] journey of its own.

[01:36:01] Really? When you think about it.

[01:36:03] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:36:03] So with that said, what does the future look like for superhuman

[01:36:07] radio?

[01:36:09] Carl Lanore: [01:36:09] I saw, I'll tell you what the future that I think it looks like I've got my hands in quite a few different things right now.

[01:36:15] Anthony Roberts: [01:36:15] And one of them, uh, as it goes through its process, I predict it's going to take a lot of time.

[01:36:23] Um, and as a

[01:36:25] Carl Lanore: [01:36:25] result of that, I've just this morning I was taking a shower.

[01:36:29] Anthony Roberts: [01:36:29] Um, And I know

[01:36:32] Carl Lanore: [01:36:32] you can hug me now. I was taking a shower this morning and I was thinking, you know, what I'd love to do in 2021. I'd love to find someone to host the show because now that we do it, we can do it remotely. If somebody has a good internet connection and a good microphone, and I,

[01:36:52] Anthony Roberts: [01:36:52] you know, Um,

[01:36:53] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:36:53] you mean in addition to you?

[01:36:55] Carl Lanore: [01:36:55] No, no, no, no. To be able to do like lots of [01:37:00] Dave Ramsey takes off, he has, uh, celebrities who fill in for him,

[01:37:06] Anthony Roberts: [01:37:06] you know, um,

[01:37:08] Carl Lanore: [01:37:08] lots of radio show, radio show hosts, a tie that tethered

[01:37:13] Anthony Roberts: [01:37:13] to their radio show.

[01:37:14] Carl Lanore: [01:37:14] Like I couldn't sell human radio unless I went to work for the person who bought the show. So at the, at the end, the show is me.

[01:37:22] It's not, it's not the culmination of all this

[01:37:24] Anthony Roberts: [01:37:24] equipment or any, or, or

[01:37:26] Carl Lanore: [01:37:26] anything. It's, it's, it's me. And I would love to start to groom somebody to, to start hosting the show. And maybe they could host a week here and a week there, or even a few days here and there where I feel like I need to take off and then eventually maybe pass the Baton onto that person and have the, I want the show to go on.

[01:37:46] I want to, um, put in place financial mechanisms

[01:37:51] Anthony Roberts: [01:37:51] so that. If I were to die

[01:37:53] Carl Lanore: [01:37:53] and there

[01:37:53] Anthony Roberts: [01:37:53] was no host to go on

[01:37:55] Carl Lanore: [01:37:55] that, at least all these shows would continue to be available years [01:38:00] into the future. The website would stay up and the content would stay up

[01:38:04] Anthony Roberts: [01:38:04] and it would, and

[01:38:05] Carl Lanore: [01:38:05] we could do that because as long as people, I mean, look, I have shows that people were listening to that 10 years old.

[01:38:10] They're finding the show for the first time, finding a show that's 10 years old. So. But what I would really

[01:38:17] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:38:17] continue to have shows downloaded, like the rom held syndrome show,

[01:38:21] Carl Lanore: [01:38:21] Oh, the raw food, the real meat, the real food eating show still will gets downloads every single month. So, um, the ideal thing would be for me to find the host, groom them

[01:38:35] Anthony Roberts: [01:38:35] and, and

[01:38:35] Carl Lanore: [01:38:35] allow their inquisitiveness to drive the show in whatever direction that works.

[01:38:41] Uh, as long as the audience likes it and eventually. Stop doing the show, but the show not stopping.

[01:38:48] Anthony Roberts: [01:38:48] That's what I would really like to do.

[01:38:51] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:38:51] Can you hear me okay.

[01:38:53] Anthony Roberts: [01:38:53] I can, can you hear me?

[01:38:54] Carl Lanore: [01:38:54] Oh no.

[01:38:55] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:38:55] Oh, you're starting to break up a little

[01:38:56] Anthony Roberts: [01:38:56] bit. Yeah, I don't, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is, [01:39:00] but anyway, I do

[01:39:01] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:39:01] have

[01:39:01] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:01] one more question.

[01:39:02] Okay.

[01:39:04] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:39:04] So did I miss anything? Is there a question you would have asked yourself that I didn't ask you?

[01:39:15] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:15] I hope this is a true Scott

[01:39:16] Carl Lanore: [01:39:16] Dodson.

[01:39:17] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:17] No one else will be able to compare it to you.

[01:39:20] Carl Lanore: [01:39:20] You know what? Maybe they don't have to compare. Maybe they can just be different, you know, like, look, they change James bonds.

[01:39:25] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:25] And

[01:39:26] Carl Lanore: [01:39:26] other than Pierce Brosnan, all the rest of them, I, I liked so, Oh yeah. Women like Pierce, but us men know that he can't throw a

[01:39:34] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:34] punch with those frail arms,

[01:39:36] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:39:36] but he still, he looks good.

[01:39:39] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:39] He looks good

[01:39:39] Carl Lanore: [01:39:39] throwing that punch,

[01:39:40] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:40] but he wouldn't be effective throwing a punch.

[01:39:42] Carl Lanore: [01:39:42] You know,

[01:39:43] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:43] Sean Connery was a big strapping guy.

[01:39:45] If he hits you with that hand, you will go and

[01:39:46] Carl Lanore: [01:39:46] down Pierce Brosnan is like a real handsome kitty cat looks, you know, and he's punching people in, they're

[01:39:53] Anthony Roberts: [01:39:53] flying across the room and you're going, nah, I can't buy that.

[01:39:56] Carl Lanore: [01:39:56] Um,

[01:39:57] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:39:57] I'm sorry.

[01:39:59] Carl Lanore: [01:39:59] I don't know.

[01:40:01] [01:40:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:40:01] Is there a question that you would have asked yourself?

[01:40:04] Carl Lanore: [01:40:04] No, I don't think so.

[01:40:05] I think, I think you guys covered

[01:40:07] Anthony Roberts: [01:40:07] everything. I think it was very good, very thorough.

[01:40:10] Carl Lanore: [01:40:10] I think it was thorough. And plus the, the, the guests we had on, you know, uh, gave

[01:40:15] Anthony Roberts: [01:40:15] some angles that I didn't think of.

[01:40:17] Carl Lanore: [01:40:17] And I think, I think that's it. I think that's all we have to do

[01:40:22] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:40:22] well.

[01:40:24] Anthony Roberts: [01:40:24] Scott Dodson,

[01:40:25] Carl Lanore: [01:40:25] I'd take a punch from pre appears to no problem.

[01:40:28] I know. Right. See Scott gets it. Like if I see if I see a guy playing James Bond, he's gotta, he's gotta be, he's gotta at least look somewhat imposing and somewhat threatening, but handsome and,

[01:40:41] Anthony Roberts: [01:40:41] and, and, uh,

[01:40:42] Carl Lanore: [01:40:42] cordial, you know, cause that's what it is. It's like he's, he's cordial. The women love him. He's a nice guy.

[01:40:47] He's dapper and debonair. But then when he gets into jam, he can handle himself Pierce. This kid can't handle

[01:40:52] Anthony Roberts: [01:40:52] himself.

[01:40:53] Carl Lanore: [01:40:53] Come on. Um, no, I, I think that's it. I think, I don't think there's anything else to talk about. I think we covered everything.

[01:41:00] [01:41:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:41:00] Okay. Well, Merry Christmas to everyone.

[01:41:03] Carl Lanore: [01:41:03] Yeah. So I'm actually going to be rerunning.

[01:41:05] Some of those shows

[01:41:07] Anthony Roberts: [01:41:07] that I just talked about, I mean, I

[01:41:08] Carl Lanore: [01:41:08] literally have thousands. I'm a couple more than 2,600 shows because the first year I didn't use show numbers, I use dates and I just found all those CDs with all those old shows on them. So. I'm going to yeah, thanks to the move. They're in the garage right now.

[01:41:24] Um, so I'm going to run a couple shows a week for the next couple of weeks, but I am going to pretty much be off. Uh,

[01:41:33] Anthony Roberts: [01:41:33] so

[01:41:33] Carl Lanore: [01:41:33] there won't be any live video

[01:41:35] Anthony Roberts: [01:41:35] on Facebook book, but

[01:41:36] Carl Lanore: [01:41:36] there will be,

[01:41:39] Anthony Roberts: [01:41:39] um, there will be, uh, uh, shows posted three a week going forward.

[01:41:44] Carl Lanore: [01:41:44] And they're going to be some older shows that I think

[01:41:47] Anthony Roberts: [01:41:47] is still very pertinent.

[01:41:49] Well, I hope everybody has a fantastic holiday. Um,

[01:41:53] Carl Lanore: [01:41:53] if you're going to drink, get DHM from pure nootropics, I'm telling you stuff is amazing, right? Alisa,

[01:42:00] [01:41:59] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:41:59] amazing

[01:42:01] Carl Lanore: [01:42:01] drink all you want. Take one or two before bed, wake up in the morning, stretching and feeling great. I mean, man, if I had that stuff, when I lived in Vegas, Oh my God.

[01:42:11] If you

[01:42:11] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:42:11] haven't listened, listen to the show that we did. Um, what's the doctor's name out of California

[01:42:16] Anthony Roberts: [01:42:16] that you interviewed?

[01:42:17] Carl Lanore: [01:42:17] I forget, I forget, but, but there's actually a, there's a, there's a Bitly link and I think it is DHM. I think it's a SHR network.biz/d H M.

[01:42:31] Anthony Roberts: [01:42:31] Uh,

[01:42:31] Carl Lanore: [01:42:31] and you can save 30% off and it's already very inexpensive.

[01:42:35] I'm telling you if you're going to drink this holiday, you have to get it. Um, let's see here. Congratulations and Merry Christmas to you as well. Christine

[01:42:44] Anthony Roberts: [01:42:44] and Rigo Bargus to Merry Christmas guys. Very, very good.

[01:42:48] Carl Lanore: [01:42:48] Thank you very much. Happy holidays. Happy new year. We'll see you on the other side of 2020, and we hope

[01:42:53] Anthony Roberts: [01:42:53] that

[01:42:54] Carl Lanore: [01:42:54] all of this nonsense.

[01:42:56] In 2020 stays in 2020 and doesn't bleed into [01:43:00] 2021.

[01:43:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:43:00] Yes. Let's

[01:43:01] Anthony Roberts: [01:43:01] hope and pray. Let's see with that. We can all wish

[01:43:05] Carl Lanore: [01:43:05] I have a great holiday

[01:43:07] Anthony Roberts: [01:43:07] and, uh, talk to you soon.

[01:43:09] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:43:09] Bye.

[01:43:30] Anthony Roberts: [01:43:30] Wow. Congratulations. I remember back in the early nineties when muscle media, 2000 came out and I was so excited about it, that was giving you a on that scene. I felt the same excitement when superhuman radio came out 15 years ago, and I'm glad you're keeping it real brother, keep on fighting the good fight, spreading the good information.

[01:43:51] I love you very much. And here's to another 15 rock on.