[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] Welcome back. Excuse me. Welcome back to another episode of super human radio. Today is January 13th, 2021. I'm going to cover two topics on today's show during the first hour, we're going to be joined by Dr. Bill Harris to talk about omega-3 status and heart recovery, heart rate recovery. Very, very interesting.

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[00:01:46] now to bring my guest on Dr. William Harris. Welcome to the show. How are you?

[00:01:51] Dr. William Harris: [00:01:51] I'm well and great to be here.

[00:01:53] Carl Lanore: [00:01:53] Thanks for being here. Um, so you recently published a paper that looked [00:02:00] at the effects of omega-3 status on the ability for the heart to recover. It's, uh, it's, it's a beat if you will. Uh, when it's taught to beat too rapidly, why, w w what point did you in this direction that called for this research?

[00:02:19] Well,

[00:02:19] we

[00:02:19] Dr. William Harris: [00:02:19] know that the omega-threes of course have a lot of effects around the body. We're trying to kind of nail down, uh, individual, uh, specific effects. We know they lower. For example, when you take them, make it free, the lower, the blood triglyceride levels, they can lower blood pressure. Um, they have anti-inflammatory effects.

[00:02:40] Um, but there is also affects directly on the heart. And we we've seen this many years ago when we actually studied, um, post-transplant patients. Um, and for this particular question, we were working with the group at, uh, the Cooper clinic in Dallas, Texas, um, where they [00:03:00] are going to know Kenneth Cooper of course, was the, uh, the air force doctor back in the early seventies, seventies, maybe even sixties sort of started the whole.

[00:03:09] Aerobics movement. Um, and he founded the clinic down there and they sort of an executive health type clinic in a way. Um, but they have thousands of people come for visits and they all do exercise, stress tests, and they all get Omega three index tests a lot. It'll make it three levels testing. Um, so we, uh, in talking with their research group, we decided it would be interesting to see if there's a relationship between.

[00:03:38] How high the Omega three level is in the blood and how quickly their heart, uh, returned to normal after exercises, because that's a sign of a healthier

[00:03:47] Carl Lanore: [00:03:47] heart. Right. Right. Uh, and, and, and so, and I remember in the early days, I'm talking 15 years ago on a lot of the bodybuilding forums, excuse me. Um, [00:04:00] that some of the, um, bodybuilders used to complain that when they took too much fish oil, They noticed rhythm changes in the heart.

[00:04:12] Um, I think what would be considered, um, what is it called when your heart goes too slow? There's a name for it. Um, Brady cardia, bradycardia. And so this was, this was kind of anecdotally discovered probably 15 years ago. Uh, I remember posts where people were asking, does this happen to you? Do you think there are some people who are.

[00:04:37] More sensitive to the effects of a, of a mega threes on heart rhythm changes. I

[00:04:44] Dr. William Harris: [00:04:44] I'm, I'm sure. I'm sure there are. I mean, people are so different. Um, it's something I've never heard before. It's very interesting that that came across your radar that long ago. Uh, so it's certainly possible that there could [00:05:00] be a specific response to a certain level.

[00:05:02] Carl Lanore: [00:05:02] We'll make it three. So we know that there's a sinus, a node in the, in the heart where all of the, uh, electrical impulses that drive the, the heart to contract and expand originate from, uh, in fact, when people have. Anomalies in heart rhythm issues. A lot of times they'll go for an ablation where they'll actually zap this area of the heart and D destroy, purposefully destroy, uh, some of these neurons to stop the rapid impulses.

[00:05:37] What, what role does omega-3 does Omega three exist? It's effect on that portion of the heart too? Yeah, I think, um, you

[00:05:47] Dr. William Harris: [00:05:47] may get three. Hey, search its effects. On in, in membranes and, and how the electrical stability of membranes in general. So it would not have to necessarily be the pacemaker. You're talking about the [00:06:00] sinus node, the pacemaker, right.

[00:06:02] Um, it could be, uh, that's not, that's not been directly studied. And it's a great question that somebody really ought to dig in directly and look at the activity of the, of that node in the heart. But some of the stuff you're talking about ablation. Typically in my understanding is relates to when they have atrial fibrillation.

[00:06:23] Right. Um, and then they, and there are circuits that have developed in the heart that just send electricity all over the place. And they, they originate in certain nodes, not usually the sinus node, but in different node, different abnormal places. Those are the things that burn out. And try to stop those abberant

[00:06:44] Carl Lanore: [00:06:44] political things.

[00:06:45] If a four mega threes are acting on the membrane. What I hear when you say that, uh, is they're kind of, um, they affect the ability for the electrical charge to, uh, [00:07:00] be transmitted over an area over a surface. Is that an accurate assumption?

[00:07:05] Dr. William Harris: [00:07:05] I, I think that's fair. Um, the date, the details are there, but I mean, that's the general

[00:07:10] Carl Lanore: [00:07:10] idea.

[00:07:10] Yeah. Yeah. So wouldn't, we wouldn't have first-line with your research coming forth. Now wouldn't have first line, um, approach to someone who does have, let's say a AFib or even a. Um, PVCs, right.  contractions, which is another rhythm anomaly that the population suffers from wouldn't wouldn't, uh, an omega-3 test and then perhaps supplementation with a mega threes, be the first line of treatment to see if we can normalize what's going wrong with the transmission of the electrical charge across the heart.

[00:07:46] Dr. William Harris: [00:07:46] But yeah, I mean, that's very logical and it's been studied quite a bit. Uh, In fact, they've done several studies to try to taking people who have atrial fibrillation, for example, and giving them a [00:08:00] mega three or placebo, and then following them over time. And, and by large, it doesn't work. Doesn't really change a thing.

[00:08:09] Um, and nobody quite understands why. I mean, the, the other kind of fibrillation that's much more dangerous than a fib is called ventricular fibrillation, beat them and that'll kill you. Right. Um, but eighth doesn't kill you. It's just annoying. And you can increase grips for stroke and things like that. Um, so there's been a tremendous interest in omega-3 in that area, but when it's been studied it hasn't, it hasn't shown to reduce it.

[00:08:37] It's not, it's not the silver bullet, I guess. I

[00:08:40] Carl Lanore: [00:08:40] haven't, I haven't a theory on a fib in the population. So  most often in people who are already insulin resistant, we know who's. Okay. So, um, uh, people who are insulin resistant generally have compromised glucose. [00:09:00] Uh, metabolism and, and, and, and as a result, they developed something called the advanced glycation end products.

[00:09:06] And, and we can, we can actually see AGS on the skin. If you ever see somebody who has lots of just tons and tons of Brown that we call them. Beauty marks. These Brown marks age spots, liver spots on the outside of the arm. Or skin, well, your body gets those on the inside too, when you are diabetic and you have AGS.

[00:09:29] And, and, and I used to work on PC boards when you still saw or things. And I remember if you were working on a PC board and you splash some solder and it bridged a couple lands and runs, you'd short out a circuit, and I would be interested to find out. If the people who have a AFib, uh, actually have, uh, electrical shorts in their heart because of the AGS forming on the [00:10:00] nerves of the heart and distorting that impulse.

[00:10:03] Dr. William Harris: [00:10:03] Yeah. I mean, that's an interesting, interesting hypothesis that we would be, that would be testable probably after, uh, Do hard biopsies. Yeah. Those are

[00:10:15] Carl Lanore: [00:10:15] a little time. Yeah. I mean, if you have, if you have someone who's passed away already and you know that they had AFib and you can actually take a look at their heart, you could find this right.

[00:10:23] An autopsy study can do it. So going back to your study. So, so, um, explain how the study was designed.

[00:10:32] Dr. William Harris: [00:10:32] Uh, the study was, it's what they call an observational study. So we didn't, uh, give Omega three supplements to anybody. We didn't take them away from anybody. We just measured. Um, the omega-3 level in the blood, we call the omega-3 index, which is the red blood cell EPA DHA levels, which is a really good, good marker of tissue omega-3 status in general.

[00:10:57] So we measure that, um, and that's just [00:11:00] measured routinely at the Cooper. Uh, the Cooper clinic, everybody gets it. Um, they're majored here in our lab. It'll make a quantity in South Dakota. Uh, and so they just collect this data and that same time they're collecting all kinds of other data, um, on, uh, how people perform on their exercise, treadmill test.

[00:11:20] So just a standard medical evaluation. Yeah. Um, so after 10 years of collecting data like this, we thought, well, why don't we go back and look and see if there was a relationship between this particular metric, the, the heart rate recovery. Which we hypothesized would be better if we'll make it three levels were higher, that there would be a, a more rapid drop in heart rate after exercise.

[00:11:50] And so that was our hypothesis. Um, we had some suggested from other studies that it might work, but we didn't know. I mean, that's what, what happens in research, you never really know. [00:12:00] Um, and when we looked and we found that, yes, indeed, that was the case. Um, Interestingly more and more, more obvious in women than men for some reason.

[00:12:09] Um, but nevertheless, in both together, uh, we found a higher Omega three index associated with a quicker return to normal baseline heart rate.

[00:12:22] Carl Lanore: [00:12:22] So, uh, I'm, I'm just, we're getting some questions lining up here and I'm just glancing at them real quick. So, um, just let me make this one change here. Okay. So, and I'm want to talk about OmegaQuant because I think that this is a fascinating discussion and it's also something you can measure in the comfort of your own home in just a moment, but what, what were the, what were the indices of, of, of, uh, levels?

[00:12:53] Like what were the low and what were the high and where did you start to see better recovery? Uh, [00:13:00] in the heart after exercise? So

[00:13:02] Dr. William Harris: [00:13:02] typical omega-3 levels say in the U S population in general are in the neighborhood of would go four to 5%, uh, and percent. What do we mean by percent? Uh, we measure the omega-3 EPA and DHA content in, in the red blood cell membrane.

[00:13:21] So it's a FIC. There are lots of fatty acids that compose a membrane, all, all membrane. Um, we measure all of them. And then we say, well, what percent of the total is EPA and DHA? So that's what we get. And so you're a four or 5% omega-3 index means four to 5% of the fatty acids in the red cell are EPA DHA.

[00:13:47] Um, we think that the, the optimal level is about 8% over EPA plus DHA in red cells. Uh, in the Cooper group, uh, [00:14:00] really the higher they got, I think the average, uh, or the, the highest we saw was something in the nine or 10% area. And they were the ones that had actually, it's just a steep gradient. The, the higher, the omega-3 index was the better, the heart rate recovery.

[00:14:17] There really wasn't a, a tipping point, so to speak.

[00:14:22] Carl Lanore: [00:14:22] So, um, is there, there, there, there are more and more today. Uh, fish oil supplements are the, one of the, if not the largest, uh, category of vitamin supplements sold today in America. Yeah. Um, like $2 billion a year. People spend on fish oil, so a lot of money.

[00:14:40] Right. And so. Everyone's trying to invent a better mouse trap companies, good companies like Metagenics for instance, uh, they focus on specific fractions of, um, of the EPA DHA. In fact, they even have a product called SPM actives, which is [00:15:00] the pro resolving mediators. And they're not sponsors of the show. I use this product.

[00:15:05] Um, they, uh, that, I think it's, uh, it's, it's a concentrated, um, refined form of DHA. I could be wrong, but my question is, do we know if EPA or DHA is more valuable in this discussion?

[00:15:23] Dr. William Harris: [00:15:23] We don't, I don't think we know that. Um, I think my usual response to the question of which one's better. Is that in nature and mother nature has given us these fatty acids in fish and they're always together.

[00:15:38] Right. And they produce, as you were talking about these specialized pro resolving mediators, both EPA and DHA make a whole suite of these important molecules. So I don't think we're at the point yet where we can say, you know, for this disease, that one for that disease, this one. Um, I think both of them

[00:15:59] Carl Lanore: [00:15:59] have to be there.

[00:16:00] [00:16:00] And from an evolutionary perspective, we evolved under the influence of both. So this idea that, Oh, you just need, this one is actually contrary to right. Evolutionary medicine, right? Yeah. Okay. I agree with that. Okay. Are there any antagonistic, fatty acids we've done shows over the years, there was an ex military guy who came on my show, Dr.

[00:16:19] Joseph, I can't think of his name now who. .

[00:16:23] Dr. William Harris: [00:16:23] Yes.

[00:16:24] Carl Lanore: [00:16:24] Yes. He's on my show. He's on my show a couple of times he's with a university out in the Northeast, correct?

[00:16:29] Dr. William Harris: [00:16:29] Well, he was with the NIH. He was in the public health service and he was with the NIH in the, uh, in a research arm, in the, uh, division of alcohol abuse and, uh, alcohol.

[00:16:41] He was a psychiatrist

[00:16:43] Carl Lanore: [00:16:43] and he came on my show a couple of times and talked about different fatty acids. But he was most interested in the ones that were pro-inflammatory I think Omega nines and Omega six is, do we know that, um, do we know that the beneficial effects of Omega threes are they [00:17:00] challenged by the American diet, which is much higher in Omega sixes and Omega nines, which tend to be pro-inflammatory.

[00:17:07] Dr. William Harris: [00:17:07] Yeah, that's it. And that's all we got. How much left we got?

[00:17:12] Carl Lanore: [00:17:12] No, we haven't, we haven't been apart almost an hour, so let's go with it.

[00:17:15] Dr. William Harris: [00:17:15] Uh, th that's, that's a conflict, first of all, the Omega nines while you're not pro-inflammatory so we can re we can get rid of them. Um, we, we can make those fatty acids ourselves just from eating carbohydrates even.

[00:17:30] Um, but they're, they're common in fats. It's your mega sixes that are controversial. Uh, and there's some evidence that, uh, Uh, particularly arachidonic acid, which is the, the Omega six, that's kind of like EPA and DHA. It's the cousin of EPA, uh, one double bond difference in the molecule. But, um, that, that can be pro-inflammatory, but there's, I think a fair amount of evidence that, um, some of the Omega six fatty acids are actually good for you.

[00:18:00] [00:18:00] Uh, we've, we've been part of a couple of big, big studies where we've looked at blood levels. Like the assay we do at Omega quant. We measure Omega six levels in red blood cells. Like we measure Omega three and we found that the highest people that have the highest levels of the Omega six is the particularly little Lake acid, which is the one that's in foods.

[00:18:23] It's the one that's in vegetable oils. It's the essential fatty acids in the mega sticks family. Uh, people who have higher levels of, of that Omega six, actually, you follow them out for 10, 20 years. They have lower risk of having a heart attack and they have a lower risk of developing diabetes compared to people who have a low level of linoleic acid.

[00:18:50] Um, so that's kind of evidence that points to Omega six being beneficial. There's other evidence pointing to it being, uh, not so beneficial. I think what I focus on [00:19:00] is what everybody agrees on is that the American diet is low in EPA and DHA. And that's that's job. Number one, uh, not so much to worry about.

[00:19:12] The Omega six side is to worry about fixing the Omega three

[00:19:15] Carl Lanore: [00:19:15] side. And, and, and we come back to evolution, right? So things that have Omega threes typically also have a mega sixes and other Omega acids. So, you know, it seems to be usable. Um, so at a mega Quan, you actually measure people's omega-3 statuses.

[00:19:34] What percentage of people who get tested, um, tend to be in the higher eight and 9% range versus the much lower ranges.

[00:19:44] Dr. William Harris: [00:19:44] Yeah. Uh, when we do kind of population surveys and not just the people that want them. Yeah.

[00:19:52] Carl Lanore: [00:19:52] Because they're interested in having high levels. That's why they're paying you. Right. You meant

[00:19:56] Dr. William Harris: [00:19:56] you got it.

[00:19:57] Um, so when we look at populations, we [00:20:00] find that less than about, uh, three or 4%, well only three or 4% of we'll have an omega-3 index over 8%, which is what we think is a good target. So it's very uncommon in the United States to have a high omega-3 up in the healthy zone. Now in Japan, 50% of people have omega-3 levels like that.

[00:20:20] Uh, at least the older people that are still not eating American diets. Um, so lean the traditional Japanese diet. Uh, so it's doable. You can, Hey, you can do it with food, uh, but you have to eat quite a bit of fish to do

[00:20:33] Carl Lanore: [00:20:33] it. And I really think of eating fish is the way to get it. I burp all the time when I take fish oil products, no matter what, I don't know if it's because it's not enough fat to trigger, uh, the whole lymphatic, uh, um, uh, you know, system and, and the digestion of fats.

[00:20:50] So just stays in your stomach or if it really is impurities in it or what, but when I eat salmon, I never burp fish oil up. So I keep, I keep [00:21:00] going to, to eating a fish. Which leads me to my next question. Um, if someone comes to your, we're going to, I'm going to put this up real quick. Hold on. So there's two websites we're talking about today.

[00:21:12] The fatty acid research organization, which is F a R E S I N S t.com and Omega quant, which my good friend, Ron Penna, uh, sends OmegaQuant tests to everyone. He cares about. Cause he's so adamant that people maintain high omega-3 levels, uh, is, as it sounds like Omega quant, O M E G a Q U a N t.com. So if someone sends you, um, their initial test, their baseline tests, let's say, let's say I'm a three.

[00:21:46] Yeah. Uh, w is there a, is there a guide for supplementation and is it better just to eat a piece of salmon every single day? How can I get. To that higher level of let's say 9% [00:22:00] the fastest.

[00:22:01] Dr. William Harris: [00:22:01] Yeah. We have on our website, a calculator that can kind of, if you put in your current level, your main, your baseline omega-3 like you were saying, and then it will tell you roughly how much EPA and DHA you need to eat based on our research, uh, to get.

[00:22:24] Up to around at least 8%. Uh, and then like over three or four months, it takes a while to get your tissue levels up. But that, that gives you a target level. And the typical level, that amount that people need is roughly one and a half grams a day of EPA and

[00:22:41] Carl Lanore: [00:22:41] DHA. That's nothing. It's

[00:22:43] Dr. William Harris: [00:22:43] not bad. No, that's picking one.

[00:22:46] It just that's. That's the trick. So on average, that's what it takes. And that's, if you're using a triglyceride.

[00:22:54] Carl Lanore: [00:22:54] That was my next question. So, so, so my next question is we've seen lots of [00:23:00] articles and, uh, actually on my blog, uh, Alex Lee wrote two really good out articles about omega-threes probably about five years ago.

[00:23:09] Um, and the first one was the triglyceride bound. They'll make it threes are the only ones that count that the plant. Uh, Omega threes that originate and plants don't seem to take foe for lack of better words. Is that true? Yeah.

[00:23:26] Dr. William Harris: [00:23:26] Uh, generally true, right? The ones that come from plants is called an alpha linolenic acid.

[00:23:30] It's an Omega three family, but it's not, uh, it's one of the poor cousins. Um, it has to be converted up into EPA and DHA, the long chain, the Marine fish oil types. Uh, it has to be, uh, synthesized in the body up to those. And that's a very slow process. Uh, so the best way to take good EPA and DHA is to actually take them directly.

[00:23:55] Okay.

[00:23:55] Carl Lanore: [00:23:55] Um, I want to put these, so, so I think, uh, Jeff Clifton had two questions that [00:24:00] I think we've answered one of them. What is the optimal amount of Omega threes? Post-workout it's not post-workout you have to accumulate omega-threes over time. Yeah. In order for them to be incorporated. Uh body-wide um, but as you heard, you know, if you get into the eight percentile.

[00:24:16] You're probably in a good place. Yes. And then he asked, I thought the main concern about Omega sixes was peroxidation. I think the main concern of all, uh, fats and fatty acids is, uh, oxidation. And peroxidation. Am I wrong about that?

[00:24:33] Dr. William Harris: [00:24:33] Uh, well concern, um, meaning of course Omega threes can be, uh, well again, peroxidation is a, is a.

[00:24:44] Bad process oxidation is a normal energy releasing process. So the terms can be a little confusing. Uh, it's a matter of how well stabilized they are, how much antioxidant they have in products. Um, and so the Omega threes, when they're in capsule [00:25:00] form, they're, they're really quite well protected from oxygen it's oxygen that we're concerned about.

[00:25:05] Um, and when you, uh, Again, you can get rancid vegetable oils, certainly. And that's a problem with, uh, peroxidation in a vegetable, that's a mega six. Uh, but yeah, the question about what's the problem with Omega six, it is a peroxidation or is it something, is it a, uh, the Omega six is being converted into pro-inflammatory other molecules.

[00:25:32] Uh, that's a, that's a long, complicated discussion, uh, with a lot of different data. I think again, I try not to worry too much about the Omega sixes, because I think I don't want to distract people from the, from the primary mission, which is to get EPA and DHA levels up. Okay. Let's get

[00:25:51] Carl Lanore: [00:25:51] there, get there for it.

[00:25:52] Uh, I want to take our first commercial break. When we come back, I've got lots more questions. Feel free to post your questions. If you're watching live, you can [00:26:00] post them on Facebook or. Uh, YouTube and we'll work them into the show. Uh, we're talking with Dr. William Harris. Uh, we're promoting two websites for him today.

[00:26:10] The first is a research arm, a fatty acid research organization, F a R E S I N S t.com. But the really fascinating, one of my opinion is don't mega quantity where you can, I've actually done this. Um, You in, in, in the comfort of your own home, it comes with a little pre-loaded. Landset pop. You do a little prick.

[00:26:30] Uh, you drop a few drops of blood on a Watman blotter. It looks like a big book of mattress. You fold it up, put it an envelope, mail it back. And. You can know what your omega-3 status is. And then because if, if you can't, if you don't measure it, you can't manage it. If you're just shooting in the dark, I'm just going to take a bunch.

[00:26:48] Cause I want to talk about, there are negative effects of too much. Omega-threes uh, Rob Wolf discovered this because when Rob Wolf first started doing his whole paleo thing, he was telling people to take. 10 and 15 [00:27:00] grams of fish oil a day because of some is good, more is better. And, and he himself discovered that it was a bad idea.

[00:27:07] Uh, so you have to measure it first, the days of Willy nilly supplementation. That's for the people who are neophytes. Oh, I read this article. I'm going to take this. Oh, I read this on you. Don't take something you don't need. That's really the truth and you only take what you need. And the only way to do that is for testing stay tuned.

[00:27:26] We'll be right back with more superhero radio. Welcome back. So one of the articles that Alex sleep wrote for the Superman radio blog five years ago was that irregular consumption of Omega threes is better than taking a daily dose of let's say three grams a day. Ad infinitum because, um, the, the reason is that when the body sees the same amount of [00:28:00] omega-3 is day in and day out, it starts to use more and more of it as an energy substrate, as opposed to storing it in tissue.

[00:28:08] And, but when you have a bolus, so two or three times a week, the unpredictability of the dose. And the availability, uh, triggers, um, a phenomenon that I like to call the phenomenon of abundance and scarcity in the body. When the body thinks something is scarce, it uses this for the critical needs, as opposed to for Willy nilly.

[00:28:35] And so Alex, uh, said, and this makes sense from an evolutionary perspective, right? We, we ate fish. We probably didn't need fish every single day. When we did eat fish, like most Hunter gatherers, when we found something, we ate it until it was gone. And once it was gone, we went on and forge for something else.

[00:28:55] And the body recognizes this phenomenon. And if you get the same dose [00:29:00] of, of, of omega-threes day in and day out, less of it is incorporated into tissue. More is used as an energy substrate. But when you get it in a more irregular pattern, more of it is incorporated into tissue. Are you familiar with this phenomenon at all?

[00:29:14] Dr. William Harris: [00:29:14] Um, not really. I know that you, you certainly don't have to take Omega three every day. You can take it a full dose for a week in one day. Um, and I mean that, and that will work just as well, but I've, I've not seen that particular piece of research. That's an interesting observation.

[00:29:36] He knows what he's talking about.

[00:29:37] Carl Lanore: [00:29:37] Yeah, it's a it's fast. And so the interesting thing about this phenomenon is I've seen this phenomenon more than once in physiology. Um, give, if you say, um, you take, uh, this, there was a study in idiopathic short stature and children where they gave a total dose of 25. I use of growth hormone a week.

[00:30:01] [00:30:00] One group got a standard dose every day, seven days a week. Another group got a half a haphazard, a dosing schedule when it would take maybe like six I'll use one day and skip a day or two. And, and then they looked at the trajectory of growth over some period of time. I think it was like a year and a half.

[00:30:22] And even though both groups got. A net 25. I use a week. The group that got the irregular dosing had a much greater growth trajectory. Well, and it see, and from an evolutionary perspective, this makes perfect sense. You know, we, we don't want, Oh, body didn't pulse growth hormone exactly this amount day in and day out.

[00:30:48] Impaired sleep, you know, a couple of bad nights of sleep, low pulses, good. Night's sleep high pulses depending on the diet, low pulses, depending on the diet hypos. So this idea that, [00:31:00] um, we do things in the pharmacological nature where, Oh, just take this dose every single day. I don't think it's appropriate for the human condition.

[00:31:08] And that is kind of what Alex is. Um, Uh, article, uh, that's on my website showed that if you take irregular doses on an, in an irregular pattern of, uh, of fish oil, you'll have more incorporated into tissue and less of it used and burned up as, as energy.

[00:31:27] Dr. William Harris: [00:31:27] That's cool. So that's on your site. I want to look that up.

[00:31:29] That's great.

[00:31:30] Carl Lanore: [00:31:30] You the link, so, you know, it's, it's it's five years ago. You'd have to dig for it for days and days. Um, I'll send you the link along with Ron Pena's email address. I promise also Dr. George Julie autos, who is a, is a, a noted physician from Greece. He's been on the show a few times. He says, can DHA EPA, he's more interested in muscle muscle gains, can DHA EPA suppress prostoglandins and muscle inflammation after training.

[00:31:57] In other words, [00:32:00] In case we have wild salmon as post-workout meal. Is it a bad idea?

[00:32:07] Dr. William Harris: [00:32:07] No, it's not a bad idea. Uh it's just that you'll make it threes are, have been shown to improve recovery. Post-workout uh, they may not, they may not, uh, improve performance. Um, that's been tougher to show. Uh, but they do, uh, improve the rate at which you recover.

[00:32:29] Uh, so that's, what's obviously, it's a good thing too. You can train more. Um, but you'll make a freezer are like fat soluble vitamins, like vitamin E vitamin D. You take them and they distribute throughout the fat from your body. Uh, they don't spike in the blood like vitamin C might do, or a water soluble vitamin.

[00:32:51] So taking them at a specific time may not be that important. It's really more taking chronically, or you say sporadically in varying doses. [00:33:00] Um, but it's almost, you can't think of it as a drug that it's going to have an immediate effect on. Process X, whatever it is. So let's

[00:33:11] Carl Lanore: [00:33:11] address for the, for the audience in case they haven't heard this discussed before.

[00:33:15] Cause we have how, uh, Omega threes are different than say end sets. And I'll lead into this. As we talked earlier that omega-threes have specific pro resolving mediators. And what that means is they speed up. The healing process, as opposed to an end said, which stalls the healing process and makes the pain go away.

[00:33:43] Is that an accurate, uh, illustration of how they work?

[00:33:47] Dr. William Harris: [00:33:47] Well, I would say in a way that they do both, uh, one thing the insects don't do is they don't accelerate resolution of inflammation. You'll make it through these do, but the Omega threes can also [00:34:00] blunt the initial inflammatory response too. So it that you, you get it on both sides with the Omega fruits

[00:34:07] Carl Lanore: [00:34:07] so they can influence a reduction in.

[00:34:10] Pain and have an analgesic effect, but it's not because they're stalling or shutting off, uh, the healing process. It they're, they're actually speeding the healing process along. So you, as you said, you recover faster. I know a lot of people who believe in taking high doses of omega-threes because it will help them build muscle more efficiently because they're re they're recovering faster.

[00:34:40] Dr. William Harris: [00:34:40] Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

[00:34:42] Carl Lanore: [00:34:42] So is there too much? Omega-3, you know, we're, we're Americans, if some is good, more is better. Yeah.

[00:34:49] Dr. William Harris: [00:34:49] Uh, I, it's hard to say, I mean, I don't think there's any good evidence that you actually reach a toxicity level. Like you might with too much vitamin a, too [00:35:00] much vitamin D uh, you can reach some serious problems with those.

[00:35:04] Um, but Omega three, hasn't it hasn't shown up like that. I think. Well, we, we often say as the omega-3 index, we think the target ought to be between eight and 12% somewhere in that area. That's well within a human Japanese or in that area. Um, we have very little evidence or data at all about the effects of having an Omega three index of, of 15 or 20.

[00:35:28] Let's see, you know, we don't even know what that does. We don't know that it's good. We don't know that it's bad. We just don't. Can we

[00:35:35] Carl Lanore: [00:35:35] look at the Inuits for that information? The Inuits? Well,

[00:35:39] Dr. William Harris: [00:35:39] there's a, that's a complicated, that's a complicated, uh, story there. Cause there's a whole lot of things different about anyone life than just the Omega threes.

[00:35:48] Right. You know, I mean that, that's why it's, it's hard to. Um, people have complained about the Inuits story, not being really true in the saying Dr. Dyersburg and Dr. Bang, who discovered the [00:36:00] thing they've gone back and looked, Oh, no, that wasn't true. Well, I don't believe that. And even if it wasn't true, they've, they've spawned a field of research that has been the most rich and, and, and, uh, productive in almost all of nutrition history.

[00:36:15] So it's, I mean, W we know from thousands of studies now that will make a freezer beneficial,

[00:36:21] Carl Lanore: [00:36:21] everything that thins the blood. Well, let me rephrase that. Everything that is anti-inflammatory seems to thin the blood. Have you seen that correlation? I've noticed it.

[00:36:32] Dr. William Harris: [00:36:32] Yeah. Well, there's certainly a, uh, an effective Omega three on thinning.

[00:36:35] The blood that's been known for a long time. Um, question is how does it thin it too much? Does it to make the blood less, to unable to clot so that you bleed excessively. Um, and that really hasn't shown up. It has, that's been the danger that people are worried about if you're taking Coumadin or if you're, if you're on aspirin or something, um, or [00:37:00] Eloquist or something, should you not take Omega three?

[00:37:02] Well, it hasn't shown that there's any clinic, but they call it clinically significant bleeding. There might be a little bit of extra bleeding when you cut your teeth when you're shaving or something, but that's not clinically significant. Um, we actually Americans' blood clots too fast, right in general.

[00:37:19] Right. So if it flops a little less fast, that's more toward where it ought to be. Uh, and that's, that's where Omega threes I think do help, but they don't hurt in that, that regard.

[00:37:28] Carl Lanore: [00:37:28] Do they do that a thin the blood the same way as some of these, uh, pharmaceutical drugs? So, so in other words, you know, uh, Eloquist and these types of drugs, uh, uh, designed with people who have, uh, a high thrombotic index, maybe they have th th they have a propensity to clotting.

[00:37:46] Or, uh, people who, uh, tend to, uh, have, uh, untreated obstructive sleep apnea, they have a high D dimer rate. And so thinning the blood is, is critical, uh, to, to kind of rescue them from the potential of a blood [00:38:00] clot or a stroke. Does, does fish row work in the same way? And if so, why aren't doctors prescribing fish oil instead of these, you know, Coumadin was rat poison before we made it into it pill for humans.

[00:38:13] I know.

[00:38:15] Dr. William Harris: [00:38:15] Right, right. Um, yes and no, Omega threes operate pretty much the same way aspirin does because it blocks prostate gland and synthesis you'll make, these will actually reduce the production of, of Omega six based prostoglandins and that's what our aspirin does. The Omega threes do not operate in all like Coumadin though.

[00:38:39] Uh, That's affecting an entirely different arm of the blood clotting system. The, to make it threes really affect the platelet component of blood clotting, not the, you know, the, the, the different cascades of, of, of prothrombin, a factor, 10 factor, nine factor eight, all that stuff. Uh, mega [00:39:00] threes don't seem to play any role in that arm of the bleeding

[00:39:03] Carl Lanore: [00:39:03] cascade.

[00:39:05] Dr. Tuliopolos just put up, he said they inhibit prostate glands, so they inhibit platelet aggregation, but they don't, they don't inhibit pray it a platelet biosynthesis or, or number. They just keep them from being less, make them less sticky, make them less sticky. And that has, that has to be a good thing.

[00:39:21] It has to be because I did a show eight years ago. About there, there are announced some labs that are testing for blood viscosity because pumping liquid and pumping mud have different effects on the cardiovascular system. And so, and so, you know, it should be a good thing to make blood more viscous and slippery and able to travel into small blood vessels that are so microscopic that thick blood doesn't want to go in there.

[00:39:52] We have a hope. We have a host of, um, Research coming out now that, uh, neuropathy [00:40:00] isn't just for diabetics, we will, we always thought diabetic neuropathy was a thing. And now we have people that don't have any insulin resistant, uh, evidence of insulin resistance or high blood sugar and the developing neuropathies.

[00:40:12] And now the new class of thinking is, well, the blood vessels that feed the small nerve fibers, aren't feeding the nerve fibers. So the nerves are dying well. One of those could very well be that your blood is too thick and it won't fit in there anymore. Yeah.

[00:40:28] Dr. William Harris: [00:40:28] Right. And part of the thickness of the blood is the red blood cell and how fluid or flexible is the red blood cell, because they have to squeeze through a capillary.

[00:40:37] They actually have, the capillary is actually smaller diameter than a red blood cell is. So the red cells got to actually change shape to get through the capillary and dump off the oxygen pick CO2. So your point's well taken.

[00:40:50] Carl Lanore: [00:40:50] Yeah. What about, um, what about the rouleaux effect? Is there any evidence that, uh, that Omega three has any kind of, uh, any kind of modulating [00:41:00] ability on the Reuleaux effect?

[00:41:01] We know that when these bloods red blood cells stack, they carry less oxygen. They're bigger. They don't, they clump. What about that?

[00:41:09] Dr. William Harris: [00:41:09] And that. I don't think, I mean, I don't think that's been studied. That's another good question that that ought to be studied. We've studied at one time, the flexibility of the membrane red cell membrane, but that's a different thing than red cells sticking together.

[00:41:24] Right. And whether the extent to which Omega three could be helpful in that condition. It would not be hard to study. Um, but I don't think it's been done

[00:41:33] Carl Lanore: [00:41:33] when I, when I, uh, so, uh, Ron Penna used to have these think tanks at quest that I was fortunate to be invited to them. And one of them, we were looking at whether or not grounding was a thing and they had a grounding, you know, like grounding self to the earth.

[00:41:50] Dr. William Harris: [00:41:50] Oh, like electrically

[00:41:51] Carl Lanore: [00:41:51] you mean? Well, yeah, so, so there's a, there's a movement out there where people are sleeping on sheets. That will go to a, some grounding point in their home. So they're [00:42:00] sleeping on a grounded mat, uh, throughout the day. They also have grounding wrist straps that you can wear at work that used the grounded side of an electrical outlet.

[00:42:08] But you have to test it first to make sure that there's no overflow AC coming back through it. And so. They had a dark field microscope. And one of the girls who work there sits at a desk all day and they took her blood and we looked at it through the microscope and you could see the phenomenon of rouleaux.

[00:42:27] You could see like six or seven red blood cells, like, like casino chips stacked on top of each other. And then they put a grounding mat underneath her desk. She took her shoes and socks off. And she sat with her feet on the grounding mat for about a half an hour. And they took her blood again, it was miraculous there wasn't a single red blood cell stacked on top of another one.

[00:42:49] So the grounding really does do something. What we don't know, but from, from a blood standpoint, it completely reverses the real low effect. And the only thing we can, well, the only thing we can think [00:43:00] of is. We know that tissue has charges, you know, has a charge and, and blood cells have a charge. And just like when you were a kid, you had magnets and they would, they wouldn't stick this way, but they would stick this way.

[00:43:13] We just assumed that the discharge of her body, when grounded allowed those red blood cells to say, Oh my gosh,

[00:43:21] Dr. William Harris: [00:43:21] fascinating. Interesting. That's interesting. I've never heard that. Never heard about grounding.

[00:43:27] Carl Lanore: [00:43:27] Um, so. Everybody. We're going to change topics here in just a moment. When we come back from this break, I just want to put this, uh, these websites up one more time.

[00:43:36] If you want to learn about what the yeah. Surge fatty acid research organization is doing. Go to F a R E S I N S t.com. If you want to take control of your own omega-3 levels. Uh, you first have to get an Omega quant test done one time and then start eating more fish and supplementing for a few months and then have it done again.

[00:43:58] The website for that is Omega [00:44:00] quant, O M E G a Q U a N t.com. Uh, that's the place to go for that. Okay. We're going to change the topic a little bit. Because the good doctor has recently published a new article about the effects of omega-3 and COVID-19. So this will be fascinating. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more super humans.

[00:44:22] Welcome back. We're talking with Dr. William Harris. We're talking about omega-threes. We're going to change a little bit of the, uh, subject matter here. We're still going to talk about Omega threes, but you just published a paper, looking at the effects of Omega threes on COVID talk about that.

[00:44:38] Dr. William Harris: [00:44:38] Yeah, it's it's um, strictly speaking, it's not the effect of three on COVID because we didn't give people and make it three it's strictly it's the relationship between a omega-3 index and a risk for death from COVID that that's what we studied.

[00:44:55] Uh, so this was really just a pilot study. We were just trying to get started in this field [00:45:00] because there was nothing in the literature. Uh, no evidence that'll make it free. There's plenty of theory. That'll make it three could help in COVID. But there really hasn't been any published literature showing evidence for it.

[00:45:10] So we partnered with a, um, Haas hospital in Los Angeles, Cedar Sinai, and they had, uh, blood samples stored in their bio bank stored for, uh, from patients who had been admitted to the hospital with COVID. So we were able to get a hold of blood samples from about a hundred patients. And just sort of randomly, essentially.

[00:45:35] Um, and then we, we knew, you know, how, how old they were, what sex they were. Um, and we knew whether they died in the hospital or not. That's really all we knew. Um, and so we measured the omega-3 index on all hundred samples. We then, uh, ranked the pay the 100 patients from the highest omega-3 to the lowest omega-3 and then divided them into groups of 25.

[00:46:00] [00:46:00] Four tiles. Right? And those in, among those in the top core tile, there was one person that died people in the bottom three core tiles, the rest of it, uh, 13 people died when we did the statistics on that. And, uh, we found that those people who were in really in the top quarter, which was really above 5.7% omega-3 index, so pretty low.

[00:46:29] But this is, you know, just real random folks coming to the hospital in LA. Right. So we didn't expect it to be high. Um, but above 5.7, uh, they were 75% less likely to do then if they were below 5.7. So that's, that was really our primary observation in the paper is under peer review. Right now. It's not been peer reviewed yet.

[00:46:55] It's been published. There are places where you can. Uh, published papers [00:47:00] online. Um, and so people can see the data, see how we did it. Um, and hopefully it'll be it'll pass peer review and we'll get into in a regular journal, but

[00:47:10] Carl Lanore: [00:47:10] makes sense. Does this make sense? People don't die from COVID-19 virus. They die from the immune systems.

[00:47:18] Overactive response of turning on inflammation that literally sets the house on fire. Um, you know, when we look at what happens to the lungs, for instance, the lungs become less pliable, uh, and less able to. Who did they call it? AVL Laurie, uh, the less able to scavenge oxygen, because the inflammation is so high in the lungs that the lungs become.

[00:47:41] Non-function the El Boi. Yummy. Yeah. Thank you. Alveoli. The little sacks. Yeah. And so, and so we know that it's inflammation that causes thickening of the blood that leads to stroke and heart attack in COVID-19. Uh, you know, if you, if you have a bad heart, And all of a sudden it [00:48:00] went from pumping water to mud.

[00:48:02] It's not going to last. And so, you know, it makes perfect sense that something that would not just reduce inflammation, but really modulate it. Right. It doesn't turn it off. It doesn't turn it up. It just fine. He said, no, no, no. Here's where normal is. Come back down to normal. Let's resolve things. It makes perfect sense.

[00:48:22] Does it not.

[00:48:23] Dr. William Harris: [00:48:23] It makes perfect sense. So that's why we were comfortable publishing it. Cause it, it, it fit with all the previous data biochemical data that you're talking about, the resolving anti-inflammatory effects. Um, and we've seen other studies where we just know that people with higher Omega three are just less likely to die in any given period of time.

[00:48:43] It actually increases longevity. Um, so this was really the first look and now it's going to be, I think the first paper that we really have evidence that the Omega three, it's just certainly not proof. You gotta be careful it's evidence. Yeah, because

[00:48:57] Carl Lanore: [00:48:57] it's a very, it's a small, small sample size. So you'd have to do with the [00:49:00] largest sample size now.

[00:49:01] Dr. William Harris: [00:49:01] Right. Honestly, we're trying to raise money now for kind of a crowdfunding thing to pay for a, a 500 patient sample. Uh, out of the same, the same hospital, we're hoping to do that. So,

[00:49:14] Carl Lanore: [00:49:14] so if somebody, if somebody in the audience says, Hey, I'd like to, I'd like to be part of that. I'd like to help fund that study.

[00:49:19] How do they do it? I go to that

[00:49:21] Dr. William Harris: [00:49:21] fatty acid research Institute website that you put up our research Institute, and we have a link on there, uh, describing the study and, um, and allowing people to make donations to support that research

[00:49:33] Carl Lanore: [00:49:33] project. That website is F a R E S I N S t.com. Yeah. Fatty acid research.

[00:49:41] Yeah. If you'd like to help fund the study like that and be part of science, scientific research. There you go. Tell me, tell me about, tell me about Omega three fatty acids and a pop ptosis. The reason I asked is because I'm a big focus on longevity. Medicine is on senescent cells. We know [00:50:00] senescent cells are cells that should have died, but they didn't.

[00:50:02] So they're basically zombie cells and they increase. Inflammatory cytokines and chemokine to make all the cells around them sick. And since we're talking about inflammation and th th is there, is there a place for omega-3 fatty acids in this, this, uh, senescent cell? A story?

[00:50:20] Dr. William Harris: [00:50:20] Yeah. Yeah. So you're probably familiar with the, uh, the factor called

[00:50:26] Yes, yes. Yeah. So  inhibit mTOR, which is really a major. Uh, a key regulating molecule in the body. Uh, if you inhibit mTOR, you really can accelerate some of this, um, apoptosis getting rid of the cells. You don't need cleaning house. Uh, so there's pretty good evidence from animal studies, certainly. And that explains some of why we think people would high omega-3 levels actually live longer.

[00:50:57] They simply don't, uh, [00:51:00] they don't wear out as fast.

[00:51:02] Carl Lanore: [00:51:02] So the discussion about mTOR is quite complex. Yes, it is. I just did an interview, made it even more complex. So we know that if you shut them, tore off completely you'll want to go muscle wasting. And while you may live to be a hundred, you're going to spend that time in a wheelchair, but, but more importantly, M tours required for formation of memories.

[00:51:24] Did you know that. Memory? No. So we just did a show the other day about, um, about, uh, Oh, why am I going to forget it? It's a, it's the, it's the drug. It's the, uh, the old and, uh, old drug. It's an old, uh, anesthesia. It starts with a K I a main ketamine. So ketamine has an effect on M Tor. And it's why that, that in the brain, it stops the formation of traumatic memories.

[00:51:55] Uh, and, and it can inhibit memory formation entirely for that reason. And [00:52:00] so we just learned that M Tor is required for memory, uh, uh, production and consolidation. And so w you know, and, and, and so M two is so complex. You don't want to just shut it off and say, Oh, I'm going to live longer because you you'll lose everything, your muscles, you lose your memory, you lose everything.

[00:52:21] So it has to be this yin and yang of, of M torn amp. K. So the story has to be more like this in my humble opinion. Um, autophagy, uh, am PK M tour, and maybe resolvins. Not antiinflammatories specifically, but resolvins keep those senescent cells from becoming senescent cells. Not because they completely block M tour, but they regulate a homeostatic level of M mTOR amp K in autophagy.

[00:53:00] [00:53:00] Got it. Yeah, I think

[00:53:01] Dr. William Harris: [00:53:01] you're right. I mean, it's, it's a, it's a balancing of hundred different little. Try to keep everything in the right balance, not blocking down everything, anything all the way. Uh, that makes a lot of sense. You know, we've also seen that higher Omega three levels are associated with slower loss of telomere length.

[00:53:22] This shrinking of telomers is slowed down and people have high omega-3, which is another longevity factor. So it all fits together.

[00:53:30] Carl Lanore: [00:53:30] Yeah, this is fascinating stuff. Okay. I'm going to give the websites one more time. If you want to help learn more. If you want to learn more about fatty acid research, go to the fatty acid research This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

[00:53:44] If you want to test your own omega-3 levels order, an Omega quant This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Uh, Dr. Harris, thank you so much for being here. Today's fascinating.

[00:53:56] Dr. William Harris: [00:53:56] Fascinating. I appreciate it. I learned a lot. Oh, wow.

[00:53:58] Carl Lanore: [00:53:58] Okay. Thank you.

[00:54:00] [00:53:59] Dr. William Harris: [00:53:59] We'll have torn memory.

[00:54:04] Carl Lanore: [00:54:04] You go listen to the show. I thank you. We'll have you back on again.

[00:54:07] Take care. All right. We're going to take one quick commercial break. And when we come back, I am going to discuss how doctors get thyroid hormone completely wrong. And it's fascinating to me that so many of these misunderstandings have continued. Within the medical community. And we're going to get to the bottom of that when we come backstage to it.

[00:54:35] Welcome back

[00:54:39] over the years, I've been contacted by people who had certain symptoms. Um, the majority of them that fall into this class are women. And they'll contact me and they'll say, Hey, I'm losing my hair. Wow. That's a horrible thing for a [00:55:00] woman, horrible thing for a guy, but it's really horrible for a woman. It's real hard for a woman to pull off bald and still look beautiful.

[00:55:09] I think Helen Chand, uh, who was a listener from the UK who, uh, has recovered from, uh, ovarian cancer. Oh, breast cancer. I'm sorry. Um, was it? No, it was ovarian. Can I, I'm sorry, Helen. I'm sorry if I got it wrong, but she had to shave her head and she looked beautiful. Not a lot of women can do it. And so when a woman starts losing her hair, they start freaking out.

[00:55:33] They're like, Oh man, something's wrong. I take a shower. And literally, literally like there's hair in my hands. What's going on. And almost every time I've been reached out. On the show by a woman asking me this, I start to ask certain questions. The first thing I ask is, do you also notice that the outer portions of your eyebrows are disappearing and they almost always come?

[00:56:00] [00:55:59] Yes. And then I asked, have you been diagnosed with any thyroid issues and they almost always come back and say, well, I'm on thyroid hormone. And then I asked, how long has it been since the hair has been falling out and the thought, Oh, well it started happening about two or three months after I got on thyroid hormone.

[00:56:20] Okay. Okay. So stop the thyroid hormone. But my doctor said, I need it. Why do you need it? It's gives them, it's going to give me energy and helped me lose body fat and a host of other things that doctors tell their patients why they need thyroid hormone. Thyroid hormone is very misunderstood and it's time for someone to speak the truth.

[00:56:44] Maybe these doctors don't realize it, but we realize it, those of us in the superhuman nation and those of us who are form of bodybuilder types or a powerlifter type. When I start to explain this, you're going to figure it out right away. You got to, [00:57:00] Oh my God. Like no one ever told me this. So. Thyroid hormone is a natural mitochondria uncoupling.

[00:57:13] Who in the audience remembers what that is. Raise your hand. Okay. I see some of you. Okay. Those of you who've heard of DNP, you know that if you take DNP, it helps you burn body fat. It does this by making mitochondria inefficient. So they have to work harder. It makes them it's like, it's like if you took a horse and wanted it to pull a wagon, the horse pulled the wagon, but now you put a thousand pounds in the wagon.

[00:57:43] It's hard for the horse to pull the wagon. Right. Okay.

[00:57:49] Mitochondrial on couplers, make the mitochondria inefficient. What that does is it makes the mitochondria have to use more energy [00:58:00] to produce the same amount of work. And it increases body temperature. Those of you who've heard about DNP and people go into the hospital and dying because they were cooked from the inside out because they took too much the DNP and putting them in a bath of ice, doesn't help them, you know, that mitochondrial and couplers make you feel hot.

[00:58:29] But they also make you feel lethargic and sluggish and make you feel horrible.

[00:58:38] So thyroid hormone is a mitochondrial uncoupling. The more thyroid hormone you have, the harder it is for your mitochondria to work, to do their job. The same analogy I gave you with the DNP, your body temperature goes up on thyroid hormone. Yeah. Because your mitochondria have to work harder. So they put off more [00:59:00] heat because they're burning two and three times more energy to do the same work that they did before they don't give you energy.

[00:59:07] Thyroid hormone does not give you energy. In fact, if you're taking too much thyroid hormone, it will make you feel exhausted all the time. And sluggish and walking up the stairs will be hard. You'll sweat, just sitting there. You won't want to do a damn thing taking thyroid hormone because you have low energy is a huge, the mistake now.

[00:59:29] So where does this misunderstanding come from? Carl? Well, people will take too much thyroid hormone. Get the jitters. They get shaky. And that's thought to be like on the caffeine spectrum while you're took too much caffeine, you've got too much energy. So you're jittery. Thyroid hormone gives you the jitters.

[00:59:46] So it must be revving you up too much producing too much energy. No, that's not. What's happening. High thyroid hormone affects insulin sensitivity. [01:00:00] It actually makes insulin resistors not as sensitive. So you are hypoglycemic. Even though your blood sugar is normal, it can't get into tissue. And so you're experiencing hypoglycemia.

[01:00:13] I call it situational hypoglycemia because you'll take your blood and your blood sugar will be 80. And you say, how can I have hypoglycemia doc? Well, the sugar in your blood, isn't the sugar in your tissue. And so what are the symptoms of hypoglycemia? Anxiety, tremor. Nervousness in re in really bad cases you pass out.

[01:00:40] So for some reason, doctors think that because patients are getting this, the symptom that somehow thyroid hormone is just jacking them up too much. And it's not. It's not, it's another reason that they feel anxious and overstimulated. It's not [01:01:00] that the thyroid hormone is giving them energy. Thyroid hormone does not give you energy, ask anybody who's hyperthyroid.

[01:01:07] They lose their hair. The outside of their eyebrows disappear. They're always jittery, but they're always exhausted. They really can't do much of anything. They walk for a little while they get tired, they have to sit down. So. It's time for the HRT doctors, stop prescribing thyroid hormone to women who are tired.

[01:01:33] And you are prescribing thyroid hormone to a woman who has low energy. She says she has maybe traditional, uh, um, what am I doing? She has, she has a, a traditional, uh, uh, uh, What's the name of it. I can't think of the name of this. It'll come back to me. Um, if a woman comes to you and says I'm exhausted all the time, she doesn't necessarily have chronic fatigue syndrome [01:02:00] because her thyroid hormone is low.

[01:02:02] Chronic fatigue is a completely different scenario. If she, if her thyroid hormone is low, don't put her on thyroid hormone. That's not going to make her feel better and it's not going to make the exhaustion go away. It's only going to make it worse. You know, it baffles me because HRD doctors, the first thing they do to women, as they say, Oh, your thyroid is low.

[01:02:23] We're going to give you AMR, or we're going to give you nature Throid or we're going to put you on Synthroid, or we're going to put you on some synthetic variant of, of thyroid hormone. And the women are on it for a couple of months. They don't feel any better, but now they're losing their hair. And then the doctor says, well, we're going to change your thyroid hormone.

[01:02:40] And we're going to put you on a smaller dose. No, take her off the thyroid hormones. She didn't need it in the first place. Thyroid hormone is a powerful mitochondrial and coupler. It does not increase energy levels. It will increase body temperature because the mitochondria becomes inefficient, but there are better ways to help [01:03:00] thermoregulation of the body.

[01:03:02] He says, uh, Jeff Clifton says we need a consistent and reliable way to test iodine levels. I take 325 micrograms a day, according to my ever well test I'm right where I need to be thyroid numbers. Aren't great. Uh, neuropathy say, I need way more iodine, you know, Um, people in America probably don't get enough iodine in their diet.

[01:03:28] I agree. But there was a doctor years ago who said by iodine and painted on your skin and let you skin absorb it over the course of days. It'll absorb what it needs. I don't know how true that is. I don't necessarily believe that. Um, but yeah, you're eating shellfish and stuff like that. And you're, you're eating fish that contains some iodine should be able to get more than enough in your diet.

[01:03:51] I don't know. It takes three things to make thyroid hormone, selenium tyrasine and iodine. So if you're [01:04:00] just supplementing with iodine and you're not getting enough selenium and tyrasine, then you're not going to see any changes in your thyroid status. I'm sorry. Maybe that's what you need to do. You need to start taking along with your iodine about a gram or two of, uh, um, well, you can eat a couple, well, Brazil nuts a day.

[01:04:19] You'll get more than enough selenium from a couple Brazil nuts. And then tyrasine one to two grams of tyrasine a day and give it a couple of weeks and you should start to see the iodine actually converting to thyroid hormone. So give that a try. He takes all three. He said, yeah. You know, uh, the thyroid is an interesting gland, but taking thyroid hormone should only be done if you absolutely have very low thyroid hormone.

[01:04:47] And. Once you start taking it, you don't develop any symptoms. You don't feel crappier. You don't pass out. You don't start losing hair. Any doctor that keeps you on thyroid hormone [01:05:00] after you start saying, I feel crappy on it. I'm exhausted all the time. I'm losing my hair. If he doesn't say, okay, stop the thyroid hormone right away then I'm sorry.

[01:05:11] I don't trust that doctor anymore. I'm sorry. So. If doctors keep telling people that thyroid hormone gives them energy, it's a lie. It doesn't give you energy. It actually reduces the energetic effect of your body by making it harder for mitochondria to work. And if you're taking thyroid hormone and you're losing hair and your eyebrows are thinning on the edges that disappearing, if you're a woman that stopped the thyroid hormone, stop it for two or three weeks.

[01:05:38] If the hair stops falling out, then, you know, you discovered what the problem was, but women won't do it. Because their doctor tells them, um, let's see. Jeff Clifton says he's currently taking prodo morphogen by standard process called thyrotropin, which is desiccated, bovine, thyroid, you know, [01:06:00] desiccated, bovine, thyroid should work.

[01:06:03] It should work. As long as, but here's the problem context, standard process. It's illegal to sell desiccated, porcine, thyroid, unless all the T3 and T4 has been washed out out of it. That's the truth because otherwise companies like thyroid armor, thyroid would go out of business. If you could buy it as a supplement from standard process.

[01:06:27] So I'm willing to bet. That it's not complete intact porcine thyroid or, or bovine thyroid. I'm willing to bet that it has been processed in a way to remove the active thyroid hormone from it. I'll bet you on that. Check it out. He said, it says thyroxin removed. There you go. That's it. Throw it away. It's not going to do anything for you.

[01:06:54] All right. So that's it for today. A little rant and hopefully doctors will pay attention. [01:07:00] That thyroid hormone is a mitochondrial uncoupling and it makes people tired and sluggish. And if it's too high of a dose for them, they will start losing hair. And that's the first tip that you should take them.

[01:07:09] I'm off of it and find other reasons for their chronic fatigue. It's not the thyroid. I will see you tomorrow with more supreme-a radio. Thank you for watching and listening today.