[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] I hear you. Well, I only have him cause it says your host calling on your co-hosts, the Lisa Profumo welcome back to a long awaited edition of casual Friday. We've had so many people over the years ask when is casual Friday coming back? I've actually had people who said they stopped listening to the show when casual Friday stopped because the only show they listened to was casual Friday.

[00:00:23] And the reason for that is casual Friday is a different kind of episode. Um, this was our attempt to do kind of like a news magazine, where we gathered stories from the internet and from magazines and other places. And we pointed out the idiocy of some of these things. Uh, we try to, um, really show people that a lot of the stuff out there that you're learning about is, is not.

[00:00:54] Uh, accurate and, and quite frankly, um, this goes back to, [00:01:00] um, my old saying that I started saying on the show probably a decade ago that the new evolutionary selection pressures, where you get your information from. So we try to, um, in a fun and positive way and sometimes a rant. I remember people used to like the rants.

[00:01:16] Uh, we, we try to, you know, point out where the, uh, where the media is promoting something wrong. And Alyssa does all the work. This is really could be called the Elisa Profumo show because I'm just the, a cohost, uh, I am the comic relief. Uh, Alisa brings those all the hard work and the heavy lifting and gathering their stories.

[00:01:36] So thank you for that. How are you?

[00:01:39] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:01:39] I'm doing great. I'm excited to be back on the air. Um, um, this is going to be fun. Last Friday was off April, 2017. Yeah.

[00:01:51] Carl Lanore: [00:01:51] Yeah. So quite, quite a while ago. And since then, too. Yeah. So what have you been doing since then? Um,

[00:01:59] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:01:59] I've [00:02:00] worked for a nutraceutical company for several years, calling on healthcare practitioners, um, functional medicine doctors, um, just in MDs, all, all sorts of different.

[00:02:15] Healthcare practitioners, nurse practitioners, um, chiropractors, and I sold nutraceuticals, but

[00:02:23] Carl Lanore: [00:02:23] very sophisticated nutraceuticals. These are actual products that have had, um, studies done about them, right? So most, most quote, unquote nutraceutical and supplement companies. They read a study and then they make a supplement.

[00:02:38] But the company you work for actually invested how many millions of dollars a year until.

[00:02:43] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:02:43] 10 million millions of dollars on their products, studying what their products actually do in humans, in humans. And they didn't release the product until it was studied. And that they had evidence [00:03:00] that it

[00:03:00] Carl Lanore: [00:03:00] worked.

[00:03:01] Patrick Rogers says, Carl is the mouthpiece of the show. He's right. He's right. She's the, she's the, she's

[00:03:11] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:03:11] the good luck covered the entire state of Kentucky, which geographically it's a very large state from one end to the next. It's probably about eight hours from one end to the next six hours. I don't know.

[00:03:24] Exactly, but it was fun. I got to meet a lot of great people. Um, I have some friends that, you know, that I've developed friendships from that, from that job and, and it was fun

[00:03:37] Carl Lanore: [00:03:37] until it was. And, and, and it's also important to note that. You sold over 200 different products and you actively sold all 200 of them.

[00:03:47] You didn't just work 300, I'm sorry for products.

[00:03:52] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:03:52] Very sophisticated probiotics, very sophisticated fish oils, different types of fish oil, um, you [00:04:00] know, magnesium glycinate, magnesium L three and eight. Um, these are products that only sell through doctor's offices. You cannot buy them. Um, online, for example,

[00:04:11] Carl Lanore: [00:04:11] yeah.

[00:04:13] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:04:13] You walk into vitamin shop. They're not there.

[00:04:16] Carl Lanore: [00:04:16] And, and as a result of that, doctors actually prescribed these supplements as opposed to drugs, they wrote prescriptions for people to use these supplements. That is correct.

[00:04:29] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:04:29] Yes. I mean, you know, it, it was, it was fun. It was, I learned a lot. Um, so I'm glad I did it.

[00:04:42] Yeah,

[00:04:43] Carl Lanore: [00:04:43] it was good. Good education. Okay. Patient that's true. So go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was going to say in classic style, we usually start off with a story or, or that we talk about, or a study that we talk about. So what have you [00:05:00] selected for the, um,

[00:05:01] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:05:01] what, what are we eating? What is America the average American consuming in a year today?

[00:05:08] Carl Lanore: [00:05:08] So this is, this is actually very shocking. So

[00:05:11] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:05:11] I was shocked when I saw this.

[00:05:14] Carl Lanore: [00:05:14] What is the message we get today from the mainstream and from the government? And. You know, meatless Monday and don't eat meat, people eat way too much red meat. And, and, and if you look at the, from this, from an epidemiological, uh, position, right?

[00:05:31] So the way they decide people are eating too much meat as they. They look at, uh, people, uh, they ask them, what do you normally eat? The people tell them. And then they look at disease States and they go, Oh, a lot of people who have colon cancer eat too much red meat and all this other stuff. So I'm going to put this image up so we can start to talk, talk about, um, this is a well-sourced, uh, image it's been around the internet a little bit.

[00:05:57] Uh, it has, it's all of its [00:06:00] sources. Many of them are government agencies to so keep that in mind and. When you look at the things that people are actually eating red meat, is that top almost at 12 o'clock noon. That little segment there, in fact, it's red. Yeah. It's red. Easy to see actually. Uh, the foods that most people are eating are actually fruits and vegetables to a great degree.

[00:06:27] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:06:27] Well, Carl dairy surprised me 600 pounds a year per person of dairy products. That's a lot of theory now is interesting to me because when I started, um, talking with functional medicine doctors, A lot of these doctors don't believe in dairy for what, whatever reason. I'm not sure why we had that discussion.

[00:06:54] Um, maybe people are lactose-intolerant, but if people were eating 600 pounds of dairy [00:07:00] products a year, most people are not lactose intolerance.

[00:07:02] Carl Lanore: [00:07:02] And in fact, the argument that we get is that people are eating too much red meat and, and raising cows and pigs is destroying the planet and all this other stuff.

[00:07:13] And when you look at this, people are eating mostly, uh, fruits and vegetables to a large degree, and with flour and sugar and dairy, that is what most people are eating. They're eating a very small amount of red meat, which would make me say. They're lying to us because if they, if they look at this, the majority of what Americans eat, then they would be saying, wow, we're drinking way too much milk.

[00:07:42] We're eating too much vegetables with eating too much fruit. We're eating too much wheat flour, but they're not saying

[00:07:48] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:07:48] also too, the dairy products don't include cheese. If you look Jesus, it's separate category all on

[00:07:54] Carl Lanore: [00:07:54] its own entirely. Yes.

[00:07:56] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:07:56] Yes. That's also very interesting to me. [00:08:00] Um, I think one thing that, that, that, um, we need to talk about is dairy within the dairy product field is grass fed versus non grass fed.

[00:08:11] And that's probably where some of the issues arises because of hormones and the antibiotics that, that the dairy cattle receive. If you're, if you're buying conventionally raised, um, chicken from. Cows then. Yeah, that's, that's going to be a

[00:08:32] Carl Lanore: [00:08:32] problem. And the reality is, and Carmella Sierras puts a comment up here that they're actually having courses, uh, in Montreal telling people to stop eating red meat because of the environment.

[00:08:44] The reality is that it I've done shows about this. It's actually conventional agriculture. That's destroying. The air quality and the ozone people don't realize the hundreds of miles, millions of [00:09:00] pounds of chemical pesticides that is sprayed on crops, go up into the air over time. And this is what it's leading to the damage of the ozone layer and everything else.

[00:09:10] But nobody talks about it. If we haven't learned anything over the past four years, is that. The mainstream media lies to us about everything they can be bought and sold by the highest bidder to tell you lies. And then you make decisions on those lies and the outcome of your health is challenged. And we're going to get into this in deeper when we start talking about some other topics here today, but this is, this is the truth.

[00:09:39] Good. I'm

[00:09:40] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:09:40] sorry. Now kids are eating beyond meat. What, what even

[00:09:44] Carl Lanore: [00:09:44] is in, and there's like, there's like 60 things in beyond meat and it's stupid that you're, you're, you're feeding people, all of these chemicals and, you know, soy is a process. Uh, they processed soy it's horrible stuff. So I, protein is horrible stuff.

[00:09:59] I'm sorry. [00:10:00] It is. Um, but the, but, but the, the, the, the, the irrelevance of all of that is the fact that people are not eating a lot of red meat, eating a lot of vegetables, a lot of fruit, a lot of sugar, a lot of dairy and a lot of wheat. And, and you just have to think to yourself, okay, let's eliminate the things that people are eating.

[00:10:22] Let's change the way people. Well, we need to eat more red meat then.

[00:10:27] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:10:27] 29 pounds per person, a year of French fries. Somebody. My, my portion of that, because I don't eat French.

[00:10:36] Carl Lanore: [00:10:36] That's funny. That is funny. Um, uh, let's, let's go. Let's go grab some comments real quick. So bill Bergman says, just look at how many fast food restaurants we have here in Florida.

[00:10:47] It's crazy. There are nearly all fast food restaurants out there. And emit rom from Israel. Thanks for being here today. Uh, fruit or fruit [00:11:00] as juice. Well, they're just saying fruit. Uh, let me look here. If they have fruit juice, they have soda, you know, it could be fruit and fruit juice. You're right. Admit it could be, they could be lumping fruit juice in, uh, but they say fruits in this particular thing and Patrick Rogers, who is.

[00:11:18] He raises cattle. He, he processes his own meat. He, he raised, he grows his own food. Agriculture is also exempt from almost all environmental restrictions when it comes to era salon and sediment control. No, I'm sorry. I thought that was an Al I was like, I don't know what that is, Patrick. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and, and, you know, it's, it's conventional agriculture and, and keep in mind.

[00:11:46] When we talk about cows, cows use land that you can't grow a produce on. They use, they, they walk up Hills, they drink muddy puddle, you know, uh, [00:12:00] water that, that, that, that gathers on land. It's like this idea that Whoa, all the land is being used by the cattle farmers. That's just a flat out lie. There's about, there's about 750,000 acres.

[00:12:15] Of, uh, land in the United States that we can't grow anything on that you can use to pasture cattle. So we're actually using land that wouldn't be used otherwise. That's true.

[00:12:30] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:12:30] I do want to touch on, he was speaking, who was it? That just said that the restaurants were all fast food. They

[00:12:35] Carl Lanore: [00:12:35] were in Florida, bill Bergman.

[00:12:38] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:12:38] Um, I do have a story that I wanted to touch on. Um, about

[00:12:43] Carl Lanore: [00:12:43] subway a subway is back in the news. Aren't they remember they were in the news for their bread, having a yoga mat.

[00:12:51] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:12:51] Well, yoga mat material in subways several years ago. We talked about that on casual Friday. Right. And also [00:13:00] last year in Ireland, um, they, they.

[00:13:05] Said that the courts ruled that the bread is not really, it

[00:13:10] Carl Lanore: [00:13:10] can't be, it can't be called it. Can't be considered bread under the Irish law of what is bread, because it has way too much sugar. Yeah.

[00:13:19] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:13:19] And then I guess just in the past few days, um, the subway is supposedly now has a tuna sandwich, but it's actually not tuna and it's not fish at all.

[00:13:32] They didn't say in this article what it was, but they did say we found that the ingredients were not tuna and not fish at all. That's kind of scary.

[00:13:44] Carl Lanore: [00:13:44] So in your opinion, what is the motivation to get Americans to stop eating meat, Rob from Scotland? Thanks for being here. Rob. Rob is a longtime listener. I really think it has to do with the government wanting to the government subsidizes crops.

[00:14:00] [00:14:00] Think about this. Rob, if you were a farmer and I came to you and I said, Hey, Rob, if you grow corn, I'll pay for half of it that you grow, but then you have to sell that corn in order to pay me back. So when government subsidies are given, it's important that those crops be sold. Otherwise the government loses its money and waste this money.

[00:14:26] So one of the things I think is at the root of. Uh, the drive to, uh, get people to eat less meat and to demonize meat is to make, uh, fruits and vegetables look like, Oh, these are better for us. They're healthier for us. It's part of the, the twisting of the message, but it's. When it comes to the government, Rob, it's all about money.

[00:14:51] It's all about money. Everything is about money. It's about pink people being paid back. The government does nothing benevolent. They [00:15:00] do nothing without a payback, nothing, nothing. And so when it comes down to is government subsidized crops, the most popular crops, soy wheat. Uh, corn. These are what make up the majority of food today in the United States and even makes up frigging dog food.

[00:15:20] So that's what I think it is. I really do. It's always about money

[00:15:24] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:15:24] while we're on the subject of farm land. I want to go ahead and talk about bill Gates because bill Gates is now the largest private owner of American farm land. He owns 250,000 acres across eight States. And he is a huge GMO proponent. He thinks that we need to feed the world, which okay.

[00:15:51] You can agree or disagree. But my problem with this is that first of all, all that land, there's no land. There's not going to be any land left for [00:16:00] small family farmers. And secondly, he's not putting cattle on his land. He's growing GMO crops.

[00:16:09] Carl Lanore: [00:16:09] Right, right. And the other thing is the other thing is he's another guy who wants to control the world.

[00:16:15] All these, all these people who make a lot of money think that they know better than we do. We're too stupid to take care of ourselves. And because they have such great financial success, obviously they're smarter than us. It could just be, they're more corrupt than us. It could be, they were in the right place at the right time, but no they're smarter than us.

[00:16:34] So that means that they have to tell us. What to do, and that's why they donate money to the government because, and to campaigns so that they can influence and get their decisions, uh, uh, uh, put, uh, put into action. I wa I want to come back to something here for a second. Go ahead. No, then do that, do that.

[00:16:55] Cause I want to come back to Carmelo's question. Okay.

[00:16:58] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:16:58] Investing in farmland [00:17:00] is becoming more common for the wealthy and it's not usually related to philanthropy. I guess it's a good investment. Um, they usually get a 12% return on their money, so it is a good investment, but, but as I mentioned, another problem is the GMO.

[00:17:17] He, he just recently, or he in 2010, the, his moment that, and bill Gates foundation, what 500,000 shares of Monsanto. So that should be a conflict of interest right there.

[00:17:33] Carl Lanore: [00:17:33] Especially when you have that much money and you can actually influence markets. Yes, you're right. Absolutely. Right. So, so I want to come back to a comment that, um, Carmela made.

[00:17:45] She says, government wants us to be sick. This is why I don't want socialized healthcare. I'm going to tell you why too many people on the planet. They want us to live short lives. They don't care. It's actually [00:18:00] more sinister than that. I'm going to tell you why think about a government that owns the healthcare system basically.

[00:18:10] And they are the ones that you pay more taxes to, to have free healthcare. So it's not free. You just pay more money. So you're paying your premium regardless. They never have to raise it. Raise taxes ever again on you. They just have to increase. The cost of healthcare. So what they do is. They know, these products are making us sick.

[00:18:35] They have to know, they cannot know, but they're being paid off to ignore it. And then what happens is we get sicker and sicker and sicker. And then what happens? We have to depend on the healthcare system. Well, if the government runs the healthcare system, they own, you. Once you're sick, they own you. You need them to get help.

[00:18:54] And this is an easier way than having to argue and raise taxes because at the end of the [00:19:00] day, you'll give all of your money, all of your money to stay alive another year. So they know that they know them.

[00:19:08] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:19:08] There's also the problem that they don't cover. They only cover what they want to cover. So, for example, you don't want to get a mammogram.

[00:19:16] You want to get a thermogram done. They don't cover thermograms they don't cover, um, hormone replacement. So, I mean, Even if, even if we did, I mean, Carmella, she has to pay for her hormones. It doesn't, it's out of pocket as a mine is it's thousands of dollars

[00:19:38] Carl Lanore: [00:19:38] a year added where they have socialized medicine.

[00:19:41] Everybody loves to say, Oh, look at Canada, they have socialized medicine. They don't have better healthcare than us. I know people in Canada who drive to the United States to get things done, because they're put on a waiting list for months and months and months, because their problem is really that big of a problem.

[00:20:00] [00:20:00] So yes, you're absolutely right. So, uh, yeah. Look, Camilla says, yep, I got it. I got to go private for my eyes and my endo and my own doctors. I pay twice. She says, look at that. That's Canada, baby. Everybody wants Canada's healthcare system. And the people in Canada want America's health care system, where you get the best and you have insurance companies, that'll pay a large portion of it for you, but you got to pay a premium.

[00:20:28] And those people who think that healthcare is going to be free. It's not going to be free because you're just going to pay more in taxes. What are you stupid? Geez.

[00:20:39] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:20:39] So while we're on the subject, do you want to go ahead and talk about

[00:20:42] Carl Lanore: [00:20:42] gas station food? Yeah. So Mark Bell was on the show not too long ago.

[00:20:45] Right? You liked that interview. He did. Didn't you?

[00:20:48] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:20:48] Oh yeah. Speaking of which, um, Spotify is a good spot to listen to superhuman radio. Um, we have it on Roku in our exercise room. You can just [00:21:00] download the, um, superhuman radio and listen to the shows while you're exercising. If you have. You get it for

[00:21:09] Carl Lanore: [00:21:09] free and we're supposed to be on Alexa, but I don't know anybody who listens to us on Alexa.

[00:21:13] I think you're supposed to be able to say, Alexa, play the human radio podcast and we're supposed to play. Maybe somebody can check that out for me. So, yeah. So you were listening to Mark Bell who? Mark Bell is a great guy. I loved Mark. Um, you were listening to Mark Bell's, uh, interview that we did, right?

[00:21:30] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:21:30] Right. And you guys were talking about gas station food. Um, I. Don't you have some kind of a meme that you want to put up

[00:21:37] Carl Lanore: [00:21:37] about that? No, I don't know. Let me see the woman, the black station. Yeah. I don't think I have a woman in a gas station. Oh yes I do. Yes. So this is, this is shocking. Since we're talking about food, this is what America, for those of you in Scotland and Israel and everywhere else, watching the show, this is what Americans eat [00:22:00] today.

[00:22:00] When we call it food, watch this.

[00:22:08] Mind mind, we gotta be 60 and 49. Okay.

[00:22:14] 1649. Okay. Yeah, I think so

[00:22:24] now, did you see what was in front of her? It was juice, uh, artificial products, uh, drinks. Uh, uh, Arizona iced tea, uh, corn chips. I mean, this is, and there's another sad part of this. The thing that she threw into PEI is an EBD EBT card. That's the card you get when you're on social assistance or food stamps or.

[00:22:50] You're getting money from the government or the local government to buy food with. And that's what she's buying with. It. She's buying garbage, artificial colors, artificial flavors, [00:23:00] corn chips, uh, I mean just, just crap and, and, and it's really a sad situation because. She lives in a food desert. There's probably not a good grocery store close by.

[00:23:13] So she goes to a convenience store, gas station, convenience store, and she buys gas station food because that's all that's available to her. If the government really cared about the people in the bad neighborhoods. They would be subsidizing instead of the crap crops, they'd be subsidizing stores that Kroger stores, and even maybe a trader Joe's to go into those neighborhoods and give those people real choices for food.

[00:23:40] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:23:40] Well, okay. So I did a quick search on some of the things that if you could find healthy foods in the gas stations and, uh, there are, and you know, when we travel, when we travel, we try to. Pack our food. If you're traveling well, air or car, but you can find some [00:24:00] things like, for example, shell pistachios would be a, a choice.

[00:24:05] Um, almonds, beef jerky, fresh fruit, almond butter packs that Justin's almond butter packs, um, Greek yogurt, hummus and carrots, quest bars are usually in convenience stores. Poor crimes, string cheese. They have the organic horizons, Greek straight string cheese. So there are choices there, right? If you know what to look for,

[00:24:35] Carl Lanore: [00:24:35] well, if you care, if you care.

[00:24:38] So most doctors, most doctors don't believe what you eat has any role in the formation of disease. And that opinion is conveyed to people on the streets. So when people go into a convenience store, they don't realize that maybe I should get some string cheese instead. That would be better for me. They don't even care.

[00:24:58] It's very sad. Yeah. I [00:25:00] mean, and, and if the government really gave a damn they could do something, they really could do something. But they don't

[00:25:07] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:25:07] do you really? I mean, do you really think they

[00:25:09] Carl Lanore: [00:25:09] could? Yes. If they had yes. If they were starting to pay attention to the things that we understand about diet, about sleep, about exercise, they could subsidize those lifestyle changes in people very easily.

[00:25:27] If they told people you, you, you can't get your food stamps, unless you go into a gym and we're going to pay for the gym for you. Absolutely. They give money away for all other sorts of stupid stuff to study, you know, uh, how toilet bowls work. And I mean, they're always doing giving money away to science for stupid things.

[00:25:45] Why not help people make better decisions and look.

[00:25:50] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:25:50] We're setting up educational programs, where they go into the food deserts and teach people how to cook. Or, and I know that, you know, some, some, some [00:26:00] cities have like dare to care and things like that that will go in and teach people how to do cook. But that should be something that the government does

[00:26:09] Carl Lanore: [00:26:09] as well.

[00:26:11] So Rob Roberts, I want to put this up. He's actually an American. I didn't realize that, but he lives in Scotland. He says the national healthcare sucks. I have private insurance, so I can be seen immediately. Now emergency healthcare here is very good. So this is really an interesting, uh, opportunity for a guy who's from America who lives abroad.

[00:26:32] And he's saying that the national health care sucks. So that's really, really, really interesting. Um, But getting back to this topic when my children were young, somebody there, somebody at the door, well, just ignore it if you're doing a show. Um, so, um, when I was, when I had children, it wasn't beneath me to say to my son, if you clean your room up, I'm going to give you $10 to go to the movies this weekend.

[00:26:59] If you [00:27:00] clean your room every single day, and guess what. He did it. And guess what? He got $10. So we, we need to have government incentivize. The good decision, but here's the problem because the government gets away more money from the big agriculture companies and from the large Monsanto's and food companies.

[00:27:20] They're not going to give the good message. They're not going to do it. Um, we're actually going to take a break right now. I dunno if you want to tell that person to go away. But, um, we, we, we have a lot more to talk about, so let's do this. Let's take a quick commercial break. When we come back, we'll pick it up on the other side.

[00:27:37] Stay with us. This is casual Friday. We shall return. Oh, don't forget the secret word. Listen. During the commercial breaks, listen for the secret word.

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[00:30:25] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:30:25] Um, so if listeners want to send in questions, if they want to send in stories, if they want to contact me with questions, um, they can email casual This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. that reaches me directly. So if you want to add content to the show, I will give you credit for it.

[00:30:46] Um, if you have questions, we will answer your questions. That's how you

[00:30:50] Carl Lanore: [00:30:50] can reach me. Or you can follow Alyssa on Instagram at fit, underscore Alyssa or This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. forward [00:31:00] slash Elisa. Profumo a L I S a P R O F U M R all lower case. I found out, uh, if there's any caps you won't get to her. So those are three ways, uh, that you can actually reach the show directly.

[00:31:13] Rob Robert's, uh, uh, other, uh, question he just asked. No, I did not. It may be worth it. Cause I think you want to talk about, uh, do you want to talk about zinc now or later? Cause I'll

[00:31:26] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:31:26] we can talk later a little bit later in the show

[00:31:29] Carl Lanore: [00:31:29] if that's okay with you. Yeah. Yes, yes. So we'll put, we'll put that question up at that time.

[00:31:34] That's what we'll do. Okay. You want to do it now? No, no, no, no. Patrick Rogers says one of the reasons that folks eat. That way. I mean, meaning bad food is laziness. It's easy to go through a drive through, then get out some pots and pans, but I would argue that you can even eat better through a drive through I go through Wendy's pretty regularly.

[00:31:58] But I only order [00:32:00] four to six large beef patties, depending on the Wendy's in your area. It's a buck and a quarter to a buck, 50 a beef Patty. I mean, it's cooked ground beef and maybe it's not the greatest quality ground beef in the world, but if you leave the condiments off except mustard, most of not bad, but, and you leave the bread off and you keep the French fries out of it.

[00:32:21] And the soda. You can have a healthy meal going through a through, but it just, it, it, you have to make the decision to order that way. That's that? And you're right, Patrick, it's just laziness. Uh, when people don't take those steps.

[00:32:36] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:32:36] Interestingly, my 18 year old nephew, Timmy. Um, went through the drive through, at Wendy's with his mom.

[00:32:43] And that's what he ordered was just the, the beef patties and nothing else.

[00:32:47] Carl Lanore: [00:32:47] So I got to put this up bill Bergman, obviously didn't tune in earlier to the show. He said, subway is a good alternative. Subway is an effing, horrible alternative. Why? Because number one, it's almost [00:33:00] all bread. And in that the bread isn't even real bread.

[00:33:03] It's got so much sugar in it and other agents in it. But more importantly, I know somebody who came over to the house one day and Elisa had made her famous white chicken chili. It's delicious. She uses very limited beans. It's so good. And we offered this guy a bowl. He said, no, I'm going to Wendy's. I need my protein.

[00:33:23] I'm getting a Turkey sub. Now he's going to subway a subway. Thank you. I'm getting a Turkey sub. And after he left, I said to Alyssa, they put like four or five slices of Turkey in there. And it's probably, I bet you, if you get the foot-long I'll guarantee you it's 60 grams of carbohydrates, 60, and a lot of it is sugar as Elisa just talked about at the very beginning of the show that subway.

[00:33:48] Puts sugar in their bread. Nevermind. There's no actual fish in their tuna. So subway is a horrible place to eat. Yeah. And then

[00:33:57] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:33:57] bill, if you're still listening, [00:34:00] subway had yoga material in their bread. That was from years ago. I think they took it out. But yeah, they just recently this just came

[00:34:09] Carl Lanore: [00:34:09] out yoga mat material, right.

[00:34:11] Something that they use in yoga mats, they actually use to make the bread chewier.

[00:34:16] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:34:16] Well, the subway tuna isn't actually tuna. They, they didn't specify what it was, but there was no tuna and no fish in there in their tuna

[00:34:26] Carl Lanore: [00:34:26] salad. Yeah. So in some ways a horrible choice, it really, really is. Don't go there anymore.

[00:34:31] Bill, please. Don't go there. Yeah. Oh really? Thank you for the helpful, yeah, of course. We want to see, this is why we do this show. There is so much misinformation out there and it's fed to you daily. No pun intended by the average news media. So thank you for listening.

[00:34:48] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:34:48] Yes. Thank you. Um, so do you want to talk about.

[00:34:53] So we were talking about dairy. I thought that you may want to talk about a little bit about the P difference [00:35:00] between whey protein and pea or pea protein. Sure,

[00:35:03] Carl Lanore: [00:35:03] sure.

[00:35:05] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:35:05] Um, because for me, I always use whey protein, but I have women for some reason think that you should use a vegan protein. Um, so I just wanted to get your take on it because do you have.

[00:35:21] You know, you had your own whey protein. So what are, what do you think why people should use whey protein over P protein? Well,

[00:35:30] Carl Lanore: [00:35:30] whey protein has a higher PDAC score and a higher digestability score and a higher bioavailability score. So these three things. Test the quality of a protein's ability to be digested and end up in the bloodstream.

[00:35:47] Also a whey protein has a much higher leucine content and leucine is the reason we eat protein just for the record. Leucine stimulates M tour and is what [00:36:00] makes protein build muscle and the lower, the Lucene the worst, the quality of protein pea protein doesn't have the same leucine score. As whey protein.

[00:36:11] The other thing is pea protein is harder to digest as is with all plant proteins. All plant proteins are hard to digest. In fact, a little known fact that I've talked about it on this show for 15, 16 years. Now that I'll repeat again. So soy protein has the same leucine protein as dairy, but. Soy protein carries something called a trypsin inhibitor and triple it's in as an enzyme that your body makes that is required to break down soy protein.

[00:36:51] So the soy protein has a smart bomb in it that turns the trips in off. So you can't digest it. And this is why soy protein. [00:37:00] Almost always causes horrible, horrible protein flatulence. People eat a lot of protein, soy protein. They fart constantly because it's not being digested in the gut. It's being digested in the colon due to fermentation and fermentation puts out gas.

[00:37:18] So almost all pro uh, um, uh, Plant protein sources are horrible because they're very difficult to digest so way. And then the other thing is whey protein has the ability to increase gluten in the liver through to glutathione plant protein does not do it, does not do it. So th th th th the reasons that dairy protein works so well, they back literally thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

[00:37:50] Um, but yeah, there's a lot. There's an anti milk movement. Now.

[00:37:55] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:37:55] I know. Well, one thing I do want to, to add to your, your commentary [00:38:00] there is that it's not common knowledge, but most of the piece are imported from mainland China. So they import about a million metric, tons annually, and we all know the issues with food quality from China.

[00:38:17] So that's an, that's an issue. The only thing that I will say is in California, they have the prop 65. So that will kind of weed some of the heavy metals out or some of the problem foods out, but people need to be aware that most of the pea is imported from

[00:38:37] Carl Lanore: [00:38:37] China. Yeah. And who knows what else is in there lead?

[00:38:40] So Dillon Boutros has, why does red con one put pea protein in everything? Well, number one, Aaron. I've never had this discussion with Erin, but if I had to guess it's because if there is an anti dairy message right now, keep in mind. It's not just pea protein. Aaron has a salmon, protein, [00:39:00] beef, protein, a rice protein, and pea protein and some of his MRAs.

[00:39:05] So you're getting all the leucine you need across all of those, but more importantly, today, people want to eat quote-unquote whole food. Supplements. And Aaron is a very smart guy and he's given people what they want. His MRD is a very popular because there's a lot of people who are sensitive to dairy.

[00:39:26] They don't understand why. And I have theories on that, but they're sensitive to dairy and they go, Oh, I can eat this product because it's soy protein. I mean, a it's salmon protein, it's a pea protein, rice, protein, and a, what was the other one? I said, beef protein. And those are all good sources of protein.

[00:39:44] He doesn't make, he doesn't make an exclusively pea protein product. You notice that because he's adding all these proteins together and the net result is you're getting all the leucine you need, plus a lot of other stuff, and you're not getting dairy, which seems to have a [00:40:00] negative movement against this kind of like beef did for a while.

[00:40:04] That's my guess, my guess. So

[00:40:09] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:40:09] this pea protein, you have a complete amino acid profile.

[00:40:13] Carl Lanore: [00:40:13] It does. It does it actually, pea protein is the closest thing to dairy protein of all of the plant sources and pea protein is actually a good type of protein to include in your diet. There's nothing wrong with it, but you have to understand its limitations.

[00:40:30] Okay. Yeah.

[00:40:34] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:40:34] Okay. So you wanna.

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[00:40:56] Having that thing and that's one less thing to [00:41:00] kick. And then after a, while you kick the nicotine gum or lozenge, that's, th that's supposed to be a transitional piece. And by the way, um, Natalie made this beautiful banner for Lucy. I didn't put it up. So let me just put it up real quick right now. And so if you go to SHR network, Uh, dot biz.

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[00:41:43] Okay. So where are we going next?

[00:41:44] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:41:44] We are going to talk about PETA.

[00:41:47] Carl Lanore: [00:41:47] Hey,

[00:41:48] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:41:48] do you have something

[00:41:49] Carl Lanore: [00:41:49] that you want to put up? Yes, I do. Well while you're talking about it. So, um, peanut peanut is asking good, good

[00:41:57] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:41:57] for claiming that, um, [00:42:00] that humans are superior and that in hurting animals, animals, normalizing violence.

[00:42:09] So.

[00:42:12] Carl Lanore: [00:42:12] Um, yeah, I'll put it up. So what Peter is doing is that yeah. Targeting people who use these terms, if you call someone chicken for being afraid, they want you to stop doing that because what you're doing is you're doing something called speciesism, which I'm sure they made up themselves. Um, That calling someone a rat when they're a snitch, calling someone a snake, when they're a jerk, a pig, when they're repulsive or a Slav, when they're lazy is actually diminishing the value of animals.

[00:42:44] And it's because we people think we are superior.

[00:42:48] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:42:48] It promotes the myth that humans are superior and normal in normalizes violence against animals.

[00:42:57] Carl Lanore: [00:42:57] Keep talking, I'm looking up, I'm looking up a word for you.

[00:43:00] [00:43:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:43:00] They also argued that the, an anti animal slurs are inaccurate and suggested other non-animal based insults that could be used, which you see there on the screen.

[00:43:13] Um, so someone, do you have the one that says, instead of saying P

[00:43:20] Carl Lanore: [00:43:20] yes, we should say trash. Exactly. I thought that was it. And there was even a vegan. Who came out against them and said, I'm six years of vegan, please stop making us look ridiculous. And it is, it is ridiculous. What they're suggesting. Someone

[00:43:33] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:43:33] said, I think the drive-through people will be confused if I try to order coward nuggets and fries.

[00:43:41] Right.

[00:43:42] Carl Lanore: [00:43:42] Instead of people, when you say coward, so there is actually a, so speciesism is nonsense, right? There's actually a word called anthropomorphism. And these are people anthropomorphics who treat animals like humans, and it's [00:44:00] actually considered a, um, a casual disorder. Um, so Peter's argument is that we are not superior.

[00:44:11] Humans are not superior. The fact that we think we right, we, we, um, we, we get on the internet. Um, we exchange ideas. Uh, music is a big one that shows where superior no other species has music, orchestrates music. When you look at all these things, we all superior. Now, I'm not saying that animal cruelty is supportable.

[00:44:41] It's not, but please stop being stupid. Peter, the fact that you even have this opinion and you can go on the internet and post, it means you are superior dogs. Can't do that. Cows. Can't do that. Chickens. Can't do that. It

[00:44:56] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:44:56] says here, um, pigs for [00:45:00] instance, are intelligent lead complex social lives and show empathy for other pigs in distress.

[00:45:07] Snakes are clever, have family relationships and prefer to associate with their relatives.

[00:45:16] Carl Lanore: [00:45:16] Amid rom says what PC is going nuts. Political, correct. And, uh, uh, uh, ma ma ma McCoy. How do you pronounce that? McAvoy McCoy. McAvoy. Okay. Thank you. I had a friend who called her dog chicken. Wow. That's that's like a dog racism or something like that.

[00:45:36] Right. I know. It's just silly that everybody's getting all up in arms about this nonsense, about the words that we use. And the reality is that Peter denies is we did a show. We, we talked about this on casual Friday for four or five years, years ago, Peter is the largest supporter of euthanization of dogs, of stray dogs.

[00:46:00] [00:46:00] Why don't they find them homes? They kill more stray dogs than any other entity planet. So what is it? Peter's real position on animal cruelty really? Like, why don't they find those dogs homes now it's all, this is, this is, this is silliness and this is the kind of stuff that people waste their time with today.

[00:46:22] It's silliness. I mean, call it a pig, a call calling a guy. A pig is, is an insult to a person, but it's a compliment to the pig. It is. Think about it. You're saying that a pig is like a human being then. Oh man. Well, if we're superior, then we're saying that pig is superior. Silly. Very, very silly.

[00:46:44] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:46:44] So, um, let's move on and talk about Dominic.

[00:46:49] D'Agostino his study that he just

[00:46:52] Carl Lanore: [00:46:52] did. Yeah, this is really, really good. This is really good.

[00:46:56] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:46:56] And it's also very interesting to me, the, the [00:47:00] outcome of the pull that up.

[00:47:08] So, um, Dominic friend of the show and his wife, and a few other doctors did a study agent sex dependent modulation of exoticness ketone supplements, evoked effects on blood glucose and ketone body levels in Wistar Glaxo rats. The reason why I wanted to discuss this is because they actually used female rats in this study.

[00:47:32] They used female and male rats. And we've talked about on casual Friday. In previous years that they don't use female rats in studies because of their pesky hormones. So interestingly, they used the, um, female rats in the study and those, the results show that the female rats, [00:48:00] once they started going through having changes in their hormones, They, they, the results changed.

[00:48:10] Well,

[00:48:10] Carl Lanore: [00:48:10] it's I don't th did they say that it was changes in hormones in this study? No. No. So, so I want to, I want to show you how this is an example of critical thinking. So Alyssa has been a huge proponent of treating women who go through menopause differently. And it's true because hormonal changes change everything from the way you sleep, the way you think, the way you function, your ability to lose body fat, your ability to gain muscle.

[00:48:38] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:48:38] I have a problem with people who say it doesn't matter. I have a problem with someone who says. Well, you should be able to do things exactly the same way and get the same results, right? Exercise, the same, eat the same, and you're going to get the same results. And it's just not true. Right. I've been arguing that point in a [00:49:00] proponent proponent of that.

[00:49:02] That's that's not true. That's

[00:49:03] Carl Lanore: [00:49:03] false information. So, so, um, Alyssa told me about this study and it was clear that the. Female rodents. When they got older, didn't respond favorably to the effects of the ketone supplements and the reduction of insulin and other things that, uh, ketone supplements seem to be doing for the rodents.

[00:49:31] And I said, I read this study with Alisa and it said that around the 14th month, that is when the rodents. A female wrote has started to respond differently to the ketone supplements. So while she's reading it to me, I go home. I go, when do rats go through menopause, female wreck? And they come up and they say, reproductive senescence occurs between the 14th and 20th month.

[00:49:58] And I looked at Alyssa and said, it [00:50:00] makes sense, the little road into losing their estrogen. And we know that BHB production depends a lot on the flora in the gut. And we also know from previous shows, if anybody's been watching and listened to the show for the past 10 years, that your hormones affect your microbiome diversity.

[00:50:19] So what's happening. The female rodents are going through menopause. The BHB is that the ketone supplements aren't converting it to BHB like they were before. And there's a diminished response. This is so easy to understand. At the same time you have the majority of the scientific community saying there's no reason to include female rodents in studies because they react just like male rodents.

[00:50:44] Then why not use the female rodents? It maybe if they really do, if a male and a female rodent, exact exactly the same, why only select males, why only, why not only select females and hope that the males respond that way because it's not true. It's not [00:51:00] true. That's why.

[00:51:03] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:51:03] So, I mean, they just don't use female rats.

[00:51:10] They don't use them because they, their, of their hormones because they're jittery and they move more than the male rats. I mean, they have all these reasons. I just don't understand

[00:51:20] Carl Lanore: [00:51:20] it. You found the study that you read to me this morning by an author who said that there's no reason to use. Female rodents because they, their changes in cycle don't affect anything.

[00:51:34] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:51:34] Your estrous cycle need not be considered. It's right here in

[00:51:39] Carl Lanore: [00:51:39] front of me. Then why do you select exclusively males? If that's the case, you shouldn't even say, well, give me 20 males. And, uh, for this and 20 mil, just say, gimme 20 rats, whatever the, if they're males and females, the results is going to be the same.

[00:51:55] This is a Daniel disingenuine, uh, a statement to further [00:52:00] eliminate the real research that should be done because then drug manufac, she's going to have to come out with a male and female version of everything that they made. They don't want to have to do that. So women. Get sold down the tubes. They get sold down the tubes.

[00:52:15] It's very, very sad

[00:52:17] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:52:17] women. I mean, we react differently to pain medications. We react differently to supplements. We react differently to foods. I mean, it's just

[00:52:29] Carl Lanore: [00:52:29] true. I got to put this up. Uh, we got to kind of go back and forth here. So Robert Thompson, who's a frequent listener and viewer of the show has been promoting fair life for quite.

[00:52:41] He's always asked me, you know, Fairlife, Fairlife. More protein. We're going to study. Uh, we talked about how horrible they cha they, they, they say they treat their cows better, but there was an expo done by an undercover, uh, guy. And we talked about it on casual Friday, many years ago, and they showed that [00:53:00] Fairlife really doesn't treat their cows better.

[00:53:02] Um, they treat their cows horribly. And the other thing that we talked about, Robert, uh, I don't know how long ago you found the show, but we, we talked about a study. That was a very well done study. I want to say it was by Washington state university and they discovered that there's, there's really all those people who think they're lactose intolerant really aren't because they still produce the enzyme lactose, but dairy still bothers them.

[00:53:28] They gave them dairy without lactose in it. And they still had problems with the digestion of dairy. So there's a lot of people out there who think they're lactose intolerant. That really aren't, there's something what's going on with the commercial, commercially produced milk. Most people, if they drink raw milk, they find out they're really not lacked and tolerant, but it's hard to get raw milk, but I, I don't like Fairlife, I've never wanted to come out and.

[00:53:55] Challenge you on it? I don't, I don't like Fairlife milk. I don't think that the [00:54:00] manipulation of the further manipulation of milk removing amino acids, removing lactose or adding lactase. I don't think, I don't think it's the answer. I really don't. I think there's other problems with th with commercial milk.

[00:54:12] I wonder what kind of

[00:54:12] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:54:12] protein they add to their milk. It says they add 50% more protein or

[00:54:20] Carl Lanore: [00:54:20] it could be soy protein. Who knows? I wonder if they one, if they disclosed that well, I'll look at it during the break. I'll look, look for it during the break. Okay. Um, we have to take another break and, you know, I forgot to do at the beginning of the show, what's that I forgot to say our title sponsor is legendary foods and.

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[00:56:14] All right, we're going to take a quick commercial break. Hey, look at this picture of Elisa and I, the last time we did casual Friday and tell me, do you think I should be dyeing my hair again? Don't I look, yeah, I think I look younger there. I really do. Don't you think? I look younger there. Are you asking me?

[00:56:32] Yeah. Yeah. Well, the audience is going to have to email me at on-air at superhero radio.net. And tell me if they think I should start coloring my hair again. I think I, I think I look younger with dark hair. Well, you

[00:56:43] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:56:43] look handsome with gray

[00:56:44] Carl Lanore: [00:56:44] hair, but I looked like the grandpa.

[00:56:47] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:56:47] Well, you look like the grandpa.

[00:56:48] Remember the little kid when we were with

[00:56:54] Carl and he looked like the grandpa,

[00:56:55] Carl Lanore: [00:56:55] he said, are you the grandpa? I said, no. And he meant like [00:57:00] Aaron's children's grandpa. I said, no, he goes, Oh, he goes, well, you have gray hair and an old face case. I thought, thanks kid. Thanks. That's what I want to hear. So should I, should I start dyeing my hair? We've got a really good story.

[00:57:14] When we come back, we're going to talk about that cosmopolitan, uh, cover that, uh, being fat can actually be healthy and we're going to dispel that myth. And a lot of people are going to get pissed off, but that's what I do. Piss people off. Stay tuned. We'll be right back. Oh, hold on. Hold on. I'll fix this.

[00:57:33] Hey honey, can you vamp a little bit?

[00:57:35] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:57:35] Oh yeah, sure. So, um, What should I vamp about? Well, that's about, Oh, you know what? I can talk about the story right here that they started.

[00:57:51] Carl Lanore: [00:57:51] Did you did you it's all fixed up. All right, here we go. Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

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[00:58:05] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:58:05] Wow.

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[00:58:54] Okay, where are we going to leave? We

[00:58:57] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:58:57] were going to talk about the, [00:59:00] um, Cosmo cover. Okay. It's actually a UK Cosmo

[00:59:04] Carl Lanore: [00:59:04] cover. And a lot of people saw it, right? I mean, it's been around the internet.

[00:59:09] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:59:09] I went around and social media, please. Don't misunderstand our, what are, what we're talking about here. We're not body shaming by any stretch of the imagination.

[00:59:20] Um, people have arrived to

[00:59:24] Carl Lanore: [00:59:24] look however they want. Yeah. And feel comfortable looking that way.

[00:59:27] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [00:59:27] Absolutely. Because when their skin, however, the conver says this is healthy. So that's what we're debating here.

[00:59:34] Carl Lanore: [00:59:34] Seeing and if they would, if they would've stayed in their lane and said, um, you know, no matter how big you are, you're still beautiful.

[00:59:42] You should still love yourself. Um, it's all good. I could have been, I could have supported all that, but the second they said, you can still be healthy. Look, this is healthy. They said of these heavy girls, this is healthy. This is healthy. And the [01:00:00] reality is it's not. It can't be. And in fact, there's even a study.

[01:00:05] Now that's come out and says you can't be fat and be healthy at the same time.

[01:00:11] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:00:11] Um, the European society of cardiology just came out with a study January 22nd, 2021 being fat is what they say, being fat linked with worse heart health, even in people who exercise. And you can see the graph there, um, that Carl just put up.

[01:00:30] That even if someone is obese and exercises, they still have a worse outcome than someone who is normal weight and doesn't have

[01:00:40] Carl Lanore: [01:00:40] exercise. So, so let's talk, let's talk about a couple of things, first of all. Um, and I've used this analogy before and I'm going to use it again. You could buy a UGA, uh, a, a Cooper, little mini Cooper, and you could pull a fifth wheel with it.

[01:00:57] And probably your first trip across country, [01:01:00] it would probably remain in pretty decent shape. But if you did it weekend and week out, the car will break down. Because you're exposing it to stressors that it doesn't, it isn't designed for the human body. Isn't designed to be three and 400 pounds. Never, never, never, not ever.

[01:01:19] And as you know, even bodybuilders find this out, you take a 300 pound bodybuilder. He can't walk up a flight of stairs without gasping for air. He's not healthy either. So I want to make sure I was clear. This is not just about fat people. This is anybody who's carrying way too much weight around. This the, the reality is that these people may go to the doctor and the Dr.

[01:01:42] May say, Oh, your blood sugar is normal, but how much insulin are they producing to keep their blood sugar there? See doctors don't look at that or they can say, you know, your heart's fine right now, but will it be fine in six months or a year or five years? I can tell you as a former fat [01:02:00] person. I was 330 pounds.

[01:02:02] I should've put the picture up. I wasn't healthy. I was healthy in the beginning when I was fat, I was fine. But after a decade of being fat, I ended up with a heart problem. I had high cholesterol, which we know isn't that bad now, but I had high blood sugar, my body wasn't going to last. I'd be dead. If I stayed where I was 20 years ago, I wouldn't be doing this show today.

[01:02:27] I'd be gone. Th th they want them to put a pacemaker in my chest at 40

[01:02:32] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:02:32] obesity related conditions include heart disease, stroke type two diabetes and certain types of cancers. Um, and I'm reading straight from the CDC website that says that there's an estimated annual medical cost of obesity in the USA.

[01:02:49] This was a 2008 figure, $147 billion. And people who are obese have a higher [01:03:00] cost than normal way people to the tune of $1,500 a year. So that's straight from the CDC website.

[01:03:09] Carl Lanore: [01:03:09] So let's talk about something more recent for a second request. If you look at the list of studies with just a small.

[01:03:18] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:03:18] Mortality of COVID 19 meta

[01:03:20] Carl Lanore: [01:03:20] analysis.

[01:03:21] This is really important, right? So let's connect some words and what they mean co-morbidities or morbidities are diseases. Co-morbidities means you have more than one disease. This is a fact. That's what the word means. Um, obesity is one of the comorbidities. Obese people die more frequently regardless of their, if they think they're healthy when they get COVID.

[01:03:51] Why is that? Because it's a comorbidity, we just said a co-morbidity is a disease. So you can't be fat and healthy if you die [01:04:00] easier with COVID because you carry comorbidities and looking at someone and saying, see, she's overweight. And she's healthy. You can't really tell that without metabolic panels and you can't, you can also look at her and say, well, she's unhealthy because you're taking the same guests.

[01:04:20] When you look at those metabolic panels. As I discussed a second ago, you're looking at this point in time. So yeah, you're healthy right now. Like if I jump off a building. I jumped off a hundred story building. I go press 10 stories. I can say I'm still alive. Jumping off a building. Didn't kill me. I go past 20 stories.

[01:04:40] I can say I'm still alive. Jumping off a building. Didn't kill me. I can go past 90 stories and be a hundred feet from the ground and say, see, jumping off a building. Doesn't kill you. Cause I'm still alive, but when I hit the ground, I'm dead and what's inevitable. I'm going to hit the ground. So if you're [01:05:00] obese, you could say, yeah, I'm healthy today, but you're not going to be healthy long.

[01:05:04] I don't care what anybody says. You're lying to yourself. Say, you love your body. Say don't body shame me. This girl here says, what does she, what w what did this woman say? I want to put this picture up. Um, she's an instrument. Sensation. She's an Instagram sensation prior to

[01:05:20] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:05:20] being treated poorly by doctors.

[01:05:23] She said, finding a doctor who wants to treat me as a patient without prereq, prerequisite, weight loss has been nearly impossible throughout my life. Um, and basically what she's saying is that the doctors are wrong, that she's healthy and she's tired of the bias from the medical

[01:05:43] Carl Lanore: [01:05:43] profession. Yeah. Because she knows better than science.

[01:05:48] This

[01:05:49] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:05:49] is often dismissed because being fat is still widely regarded as a choice. And evidently I guess maybe they say it's not a choice

[01:05:59] Carl Lanore: [01:05:59] who [01:06:00] says it's not a choice to doctors. I just, I just had this discussion.

[01:06:05] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:06:05] That person,

[01:06:07] Carl Lanore: [01:06:07] of course it is. Of course it is. I made a choice to eat more food. Every day, then my body needed for the level of activity I had.

[01:06:16] And I did that day in and day out week in and week out, month in and month out, year in and year out for over a decade. So yes, it's a choice. I, no one put a gun to my head and said, eat another Wendy's, uh, triple stack, no one put a gun to my head and said, have more does dessert. It's it is a choice. And if you don't believe that your choices are making you fat, then go to any.

[01:06:42] A prisoner of war camp, where they're starving, the men and women that are there and find me a fat person. I just talked about this with Layne Norton, the whole fat gene, the thrifty gene. It's not my fault. I'm big bone. That's all nonsense. You just have to go to a country where people are starving and find me a fat [01:07:00] person go to Biafra where that everybody's starving to death and find me one fat person.

[01:07:05] And you go, yeah, he, he only eats a cup of rice a day and look, he's 250 pounds. If you starve yourself, you get, then if you engorge yourself, you get fat. It's easy. Now. What's not easy for people is a understanding that taking responsibility for them, for these processes will free them. Because, because if you think that it's not your fault, then you're a victim.

[01:07:29] Your fatness is a victim. But if you realize, wow, I did things that facilitated. That my end result, then you can do different things and you can, you can get yourself out of it. Now that it's complex, you know, overeating is a complex thing. We have food manufacturers that make foods that taste so good that they don't improve satiety, and you want to eat them all day long, but at the end of the day, you can stop just like the guy who stops smoking cigarettes.

[01:07:58] You can stop.

[01:08:00] [01:08:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:08:00] So the same, uh, Instagram model that you just had up there said that on one of her posts, weight stigma increases the risk for depression, anxiety, poor self-esteem suicidal thoughts and eating disorder. Now that's weight stigma. I would say that couldn't it be from the weight on her body that causes a lot of those issues.

[01:08:27] Carl Lanore: [01:08:27] We know that inflammation. Leads to depression. We know this because the inflammation inflammatory cytokines and, and, and, uh, chemokine and all these inflammatory agents get to the brain. And when the brain gets hit with all that, of that inflammation, it gets depressed. We've talked about that years ago, that major depressive disorder is driven by inflammation.

[01:08:49] We also know that all those fat cells they make inflammatory Mar uh, agents. So you have this factory of [01:09:00] inflammatory agents, that's literally being manufactured in your body. So, yes. And the other thing I would argue is if you're so comfortable with your body, look, um, I'm not comfortable with my gray hair right now.

[01:09:11] So I'm asking people if I said, Oh, I'm comfortable with my gray hair. And then people make fun of my gray hair and it depresses me. It's like, well, wait a minute. I thought you're comfortable with it. If you're so comfortable being fat, then why do you care? What other people think? How can they have that much control over what you think?

[01:09:30] So it's, it's all BS.

[01:09:33] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:09:33] So she also mentioned, um, someone who was so heavy that the doctor needed a scan. And, and they couldn't do the scan in the hospital. So they had to go to the zoo to do the scan and how dehumanizing that was to this person and how it just sent her into a depression. And. They're not trying to dehumanize her.

[01:09:57] They just needed the scan.

[01:09:58] Carl Lanore: [01:09:58] She's bigger. She's [01:10:00] too big for these

[01:10:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:10:00] things fit into the machine. That's

[01:10:02] Carl Lanore: [01:10:02] the hospital, right? That's not the hospital's fault. Remember the guy who wanted to Sue white castles because he couldn't fit in the, you know, in, in the seats anymore because he got so fat, he couldn't fit in the seat.

[01:10:17] So why castles had to change their seats for him? And interestingly amid, rom. Points out something very fascinating. How many 95 year old? 350 pound people do you say? Oh, that is interesting. Yeah, you don't, you don't, you don't.

[01:10:35] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:10:35] I mean

[01:10:36] Carl Lanore: [01:10:36] her way, of course they do. Co-morbidities healthy. They're not healthy.

[01:10:42] Like, you know, that analogy I gave about jumping off a building and still being alive, halfway down. That's a really profoundly accurate analogy for these people who are really fat and want to say that they're healthy. You may be healthy right now. Like the guy who jumps off the building, he may be [01:11:00] still alive, halfway down, but he's going to be dead.

[01:11:02] He's going to hit the ground and it's inevitable. He's going to be dead.

[01:11:06] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:11:06] So, so I just want to say this, the study's author says one cannot be fat, but healthy. He says that's a quote.

[01:11:19] Carl Lanore: [01:11:19] And he said, I looked, I looked younger because I was younger back then keep, keep, keep rocking the gray.

[01:11:26] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:11:26] Yeah. But anyway, so yeah, it's, it's, it's not it's you can't be fat, but fit.

[01:11:34] Carl Lanore: [01:11:34] No, it's it's, it's impossible. You can't jump off a building and be alive. You're going to be dead. It's just a matter of when you hit the ground or not.

[01:11:42] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:11:42] If you're happy with the way you look, then God bless you. You know that your decision.

[01:11:48] Carl Lanore: [01:11:48] Absolutely. Uh, absolutely. Um, I'm sorry. I lost track. Where are we going after this? Do you want to talk about zinc yet? Or yeah, we can do that. [01:12:00] So Rob Robertson, Lee, I think it was Rob. Let me find it. Let me find the comment.

[01:12:04] Hold on. Uh, it's about. Oysters. I eat oysters because unless they don't have a face, that's a good one. Rob, Rob, Rob Thompson. But earlier said, um, hold on a second. And I like oysters too, by the way, I know, put something up here about, are there any benefits and that's why I want to talk about, I'm trying to find it.

[01:12:29] Um, Rob Thompson also said, thanks to you. I have been paying close attention to the quality of my food. Just started eating fresh oysters, shucked from the Pacific Northwest, and he thoughts on oysters. I love them. As long as you can get really good quality oysters. When you open an oyster and you smell it, if it smells like dirty socks, don't eat it.

[01:12:50] But if it smells fresh and odorless, definitely. I love oysters. So oysters are loaded with zinc. What is, what is good about zinc? [01:13:00] Well, uh,

[01:13:00] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:13:00] so what, what, what sparked my interest on the zinc is because I read a study and a recent double blind placebo controlled study on insomnia in elderly patients. This was done in Italy in a long term care facility, supplementation with five milligrams of melatonin, 11.2, five milligrams of zinc.

[01:13:24] And 225 milligrams of magnesium for eight weeks led to improved sleep on their, uh, insomnia tests. I found that was interesting. So then I just thought, well, zinc is so good for so many things. Zinc boost, the immune system zinc helps with testosterone production. It helped, I mean, one of the side effects of zinc deficiency is erectile dysfunction.

[01:13:53] I

[01:13:53] Carl Lanore: [01:13:53] find that fascinating. Well, let me tell you the pathway. So zinc zinc reduces aromatase. So [01:14:00] zinc lowers estrogen in men and in women, especially women who carry more body fat. That's another thing we didn't talk about the role of body fat and the development of both breast cancer and uterine cancer is very, very high.

[01:14:13] Um, because you are producing lots of estrogen in fat cells. So back in the day, Guys used to eat oysters when they knew they were going to have sex because they'd have it, what's it called an aphrodisiac. It, it's not really an aphrodisiac. It just gives you better erections. And that's because of the zinc zinc reduces aromatase enzyme, aromatase, enzymes, lowers, estrogen, and raises testosterone at the same time, by less testosterone being siphoned off into estrogen.

[01:14:45] And it gives men better erections. And that's, that's the reason that. Men used to use it.

[01:14:52] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:14:52] There's a misunderstanding that, that you, um, stores Inc, but your body doesn't stores, [01:15:00] Inc. And so you need to eat enough of the zinc every day to meet your daily requirements. So men should eat 11 milligrams of zinc per day, women, eight milligrams of zinc.

[01:15:12] If you're pregnant, you need 11 milligrams. And if you're breastfeeding, you need 12 million milligrams. So let's just go through a little bit of a list where the foods that contain zinc, the highest is meat, red meat contains the most zinc. Right. And so for me, I need to replace my zinc because I'm really don't eat much red meat.

[01:15:33] Not because I'm against it, but I have been eating some lately.

[01:15:36] Carl Lanore: [01:15:36] Yeah. You ate chili with beef in it. The other day

[01:15:40] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:15:40] I did, um, shellfish, particularly oysters. Um, lagoons, but they also include anti anti nutrients. What, which inhibit the absorption of zinc, um, seeds, including hemp seeds, [01:16:00] nuts, including pine nuts, almonds and peanuts, dairy eggs.

[01:16:06] There are some veggies that contains ink and dark chocolate.

[01:16:10] Carl Lanore: [01:16:10] So zinc is a mineral that is considered a metal. Okay. Um, you have a hard time digesting it. So if you are going to use zinc products, supplements, make sure they are kelated or glycinate it. And you'll it.

[01:16:27] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:16:27] The company I've worked for had a zinc with AGL, glycinate was included in it.

[01:16:33] Carl Lanore: [01:16:33] Right. And so, yeah, take zinc supplements. And you know, a lot of people stay away from zinc because they go, Oh, well, zinc is a metal. Well, there are metals that your body has the ability to completely excrete and then, uh, metals that they don't, uh, iron and gets stored until the red blood cell is recycled.

[01:16:51] So that's, uh, that's one that sticks around, but zinc is in and out as you point out. And so people who avoid zinc it's, it's a, it's a metal [01:17:00] they're going to end up with disorders. If you have low zinc and high copper, which guess what? Diet Terry template leads to low zinc and high copper. Vegans you end up, you end up with this euphoric feeling all the time.

[01:17:16] You always feel like you're a little goofy. You always had that little days because when copper gets high in the brain and zinc gets low, the brain can't function properly. So zinc is very important for cognition. Zinc is very important for, for brain function and you see a lot of you see a lot of. Uh, people, vegans who look like they're a little bit out of it.

[01:17:38] It's because of the low zinc high copper, uh, here, uh, NEMA McAvoy says, I said it right McAvoy. I have zinc picolinate and zinc quercitin I think the zinc

[01:17:50] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:17:50] quercitin is the best. Really? What do

[01:17:53] Carl Lanore: [01:17:53] you think Carl? I like quercitin for a lot of other reasons

[01:17:58] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:17:58] and it helps to boost the immune [01:18:00] system,

[01:18:00] Carl Lanore: [01:18:00] but picolinate Colonnade is another, um, um, Bonding mineral that they use to make the zinc more absorbable?

[01:18:11] I mean, no, no, but I think I liked the idea of taking some courses in any way. It has a role in, uh, slowing down aging. Start taking course attend, uh, Niamh, Niamh. I'm sorry. I got the a on the wrong place. I'm a little dyslexic today. Niamh. Just remember that if you're taking 20 milligrams of zinc picolinate or zinc, quercitin some portion of it is zinc and some portion of it is the PI culminate or the quercetin.

[01:18:42] So if your goal is to get 40 milligrams of zinc a day, make sure you understand. What percentage of that supplement is actually zinc, elemental, zinc. Um, one of the things that happens with, uh, key laded, uh, uh, minerals [01:19:00] is that you may be taking 40 milligrams of zinc, uh, key late, right? And maybe key later to an amino acid, for instance, And that's 40 milligrams of both of those things combined.

[01:19:14] You may only be getting 18 milligrams of zinc. If the manufacturer doesn't disclose on the back of the label, let's say it says a hundred milligrams of zinc picolinate then it should say parenthetically 40 milligrams of elemental zinc, or 20 milligrams. So just pay attention to that because you may not be getting as much zinc as you think.

[01:19:34] Hey, that rhymes, uh, Zinka Dinka do that, that you may not be getting as much zinc as you think you are. Uh, so just pay attention to that. That's all. That's all I want to say.

[01:19:44] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:19:44] Um, I think we're going to have to save the hair loss for, uh, next week or next

[01:19:50] Carl Lanore: [01:19:50] we're going to take a break and come back. We have another segment to fill.

[01:19:53] Oh, yeah, we have taken one more. Let's do that. Let's do

[01:19:57] heroin.

[01:19:57] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:19:57] I also need to answer Carmelo's [01:20:00] question.

[01:20:00] Carl Lanore: [01:20:00] So I'll let you, this will be a longer segment. So let's do those two things. And then, uh, we also have Cynthia Burke golf made a comment about my gray hair that I want to put up chill. So stay tuned. Oh, is that who that is?

[01:20:13] Okay, cool. Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more casual Friday.

[01:20:24] welcome back. We got lots of comments piling up here. I want to just get these out because they're about zinc. Nick, Nick, uh, yell, Elmo. A friend of ours, he makes a good point. Just remember to monitor copper levels. If you take high amounts of zinc for a long time, because just the way, uh, copper and zinc need to be in balance.

[01:20:43] So if you are taking high levels of zinc, now, the other thing you could do is just eat lots of meat because red meat has both zinc and copper in it, but yeah, good point. And then also, um, and Niamh, I feel bad that I've been pronouncing your first name, [01:21:00] NEMA. I'm sorry. Uh, I'm, I'm really particular about getting names of guests, right.

[01:21:05] And of listeners to, uh, Niamh McAvoy. He says, he'll check it out. Thanks guys. And then, uh, emit rom, let me see. It's seven hours later in Israel. Isn't it. Wow. It's getting late. He says, uh, going a bit off the rails, doctors of Lanco re recommend zinc plus quercitin uh, for early treatment of COVID. So as well, Yeah.

[01:21:27] So maybe the zinc quercetin is better in this, uh, this post COVID world. Yeah.

[01:21:33] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:21:33] Um, I have a question for you. Um, if taking I'm taking, this is from a listener I'm taking zinc daily, could that contribute to my almost no estrogen and normal testosterone levels?

[01:21:49] Carl Lanore: [01:21:49] Is this a man or a woman? It's a woman. Yeah.

[01:21:52] Zinc will reduce estrogen. So. I don't want to discount the possibility that you are going through [01:22:00] reproductive senescence or menopause. So

[01:22:04] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:22:04] that's

[01:22:04] Carl Lanore: [01:22:04] probably possibility. It's probably that. So if you have no estrogen, it's probably not. It's probably not the zinc. However, if you have normal testosterone and you are going through STR uh, you are going through, uh, uh, reproductive senescence or menopause, then.

[01:22:24] Not taking zinc may actually cause a slight rise in estrogen because women's bodies make estrogen. But they also convert both  and testosterone to estrogen. And that's why some women, uh, who go on HRT only need testosterone because they have enough aromatase activity that just giving them testosterone, takes some, donate, some of that testosterone to estrogen and they feel great.

[01:22:57] So it's a very, it's very complicated, you know, there's no [01:23:00] silver bullet when it comes to. Hormone replacement therapy. There could have been, if you would have gotten your hormones tested back when you were in your twenties and have a time capsule of what you look like when you were young. But with that being said, you could experiment with not taking any zinc, uh, so that the fat cells in your body will then help produce more estrogen and see if that makes you feel good.

[01:23:23] Yeah. And what

[01:23:24] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:23:24] about. What about since she, you know, there are benefits of zinc rotating in and out of her, of supplementing programs,

[01:23:33] Carl Lanore: [01:23:33] the opportunity that she has is to just take less or take it every other day to, to reduce the weekly dose. So, so to speak. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:23:44] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:23:44] And so, um, I do want to go ahead while we're doing questions and answer your Carmella's question.

[01:23:49] Okay. Did you, do you have that

[01:23:52] Carl Lanore: [01:23:52] up? I all I, all I really have to put up is to put up Carmella's name and the question basis, skin [01:24:00] and hormones. I didn't, I didn't do all the, all I figured you could read it, uh, live on the air.

[01:24:06] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:24:06] Well, basically her hormones. Um, let me just find her, her testosterone levels.

[01:24:11] She'd been taking testosterone replacement. Um, she's worried that she's in peri-menopause. And that she's going to need estrogen, um, and her, so she wants to know if she should replace her estrogen. Now also

[01:24:30] Carl Lanore: [01:24:30] is our, is our estrogen low? My

[01:24:33] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:24:33] question is  estrogen. If I see my levels have dropped significantly, should I ask for estrogen replacement?

[01:24:40] I'm noticing I'm starting to have issues with my skin. I'm itchy. Um, uh, my scalp itches, my armpits itch. Um, is that a side effect of low estrogen? I don't know about that. Um, she said she's noticed that her face is not as full as it used to be. She's in [01:25:00] her forties

[01:25:01] Carl Lanore: [01:25:01] and women and women do become, you know, gaunt, uh, as they go through menopause.

[01:25:07] So I would say if she's, excuse me, if she's taking testosterone. And her estrogen is still dropping, knowing that some of it tell me if her testosterone is converting to estrogen. I think she's ready for a multi hormone protocol. Yeah.

[01:25:27] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:25:27] Yeah. And progesterone needs to be

[01:25:28] Carl Lanore: [01:25:28] checked as well. If she's going to take estrogen, she should take progesterone too.

[01:25:32] Absolutely.

[01:25:34] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:25:34] Um, so she also wanted to know what my skin regimen, uh, yes. Um, maybe we should do a segment on that, um, on one casual Friday episode. Yeah, we can do that. And just because it's kind of multifaceted, I think that with your skin, you have to pay attention to what you put in your body, as well as what you put on topically.

[01:25:57] I don't think it's a one [01:26:00] size fits all you have to, um, you have to, yeah. Estrogen can cause dry skin.

[01:26:07] Carl Lanore: [01:26:07] Yeah, and she's going to be 46 soon. I just really, I just realized, I know, I know Carmela for about 13 years

[01:26:18] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:26:18] older than me,

[01:26:20] Carl Lanore: [01:26:20] right. Maybe, maybe, maybe about 12 years, maybe 12. Right, right. Before I met you, uh, I met, uh, uh, Carmela on the RX bar, uh, bodybuilding website.

[01:26:30] Yeah.

[01:26:30] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:26:30] Yeah. So anyway, the, the, um, the skin conversation. Um, is going to be a whole, we could do a whole segment on that. So, yeah. Yeah. I do think it's important. Like college is important. Protein is important.

[01:26:48] Carl Lanore: [01:26:48] Um, vitamin

[01:26:51] a

[01:26:51] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:26:51] vitamin D is important. Eating healthy fats is very important. Um, the cleansing, your skin [01:27:00] using, uh, you know, exfoliation.

[01:27:02] Um, topically, what you put on it, doesn't use a lot of chemicals. I mean, it's a, it's a whole, so we'll talk about that maybe

[01:27:09] Carl Lanore: [01:27:09] next and having a, and having a guy who loves to rub lotion on your body is important.

[01:27:16] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:27:16] Very true. So, um, we'll talk about that, but yeah, um, the hair loss also for the

[01:27:25] Carl Lanore: [01:27:25] neck. Okay. If that's the case, uh, I just got a message from Rigo Vargas. He can't watch live, but he's going to watch later and. He wants to know what I think about the whole game stop thing. I have an opinion. I have an opinion.

[01:27:40] I know you have an opinion too, because we both are. Um, what, what do you call that? Um, recreationally involved in, in, yeah. Yeah. Yes, please. Elisa, because your skin is amazing. It is amazing. When Elisa went to Italy and the Italian women found out how old she was, Tahlia [01:28:00] girls, young girls, they said to her.

[01:28:02] We want to, we want to swim in the waters that you swim in because cause we want to have skin, like we want to have skin like you that's fun. So, um, short, short selling. So there's a lot of things that had done, uh, by the sec, the securities and exchange commission to keep people from taking advantage, uh, of the stock market.

[01:28:28] Um, for instance, let's go back to the seventies. I think it was the hunt brothers who had hunt trucking, decided they were going to corner the market on silver and they almost succeeded. And, uh, the government rewrote the laws that no single person or entity can own more than a certain amount of silver.

[01:28:48] Um, one of the things I really think that the government needs to do. Is look at what's known as short selling short selling is when you don't buy a stock, but you [01:29:00] technically borrow it. And then, um, you can sell it and make a profit on it. But the other side of short selling, as I understand it is, um, you can, you can buy a stock and then you can drive the price down.

[01:29:22] And crushed the company and that's kind of what they did with that's what the hell hedge fund managers who are planning to do with GameStop, why they pick GameStop, who did GameStop piss off? You know, I don't know, but we talked about these hedge fund managers. We're talking about people that are worth quite often, hundreds of millions and billions of dollars.

[01:29:43] And they don't look at their actions from a holistic standpoint, like, Oh man, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're going to crush a bunch of people, their jobs, the company is going to visit. They look at it strictly as dollars and cents numbers on a page. And what happened was, [01:30:00] uh, it was kind of discovered, I don't know how that these, these, uh, this hedge fund.

[01:30:08] Uh, was going to do this to game stop by this group of investors that have a Reddit page. And so they decided to just buy the hell out of this stock. And what ended up happening was the hedge funds lost all their money. And one of them already went out of business and that's the second one is supposed to go out of business too.

[01:30:31] And so the, uh, the government, the president office called and said, Two brokerage firms, stop trading game stop to stop the losses, but they didn't do that to save game stop. They did that to save the hedge funds, uh, who were heavily invested in losing their money in this, uh, this kind of reverse way of trading this a short-selling.

[01:30:55] The funny thing is that, uh, short-selling probably [01:31:00] should be outlawed. Uh, it doesn't, it doesn't do anything good, except the person that is taking the short selling position and they actually destroy people's pensions and small investors, uh, wealth and all that sort of stuff by doing. In fact, this is how George Soros made all his money.

[01:31:19] He actually short sold something. I want to say it was a currency trade. He w w here's what I know about it. George Soros made billions of dollars. Short-selling something that almost crushed the UK economy. Like literally almost crushed the UK economy because he did this short sell with something. I feel like it was c'mon some commodity.

[01:31:46] I don't know what it was. And I'm, I'm be foolish to guests, but I do know that this is how George Soros made all his money. It's a really unscrupulous way to do it. But people who are in the money business go, Hey, all is good and loving, warm business. You know, like w [01:32:00] w this is all about dollars and cents.

[01:32:01] We saw an opportunity. We went after it, and if other people lost, there's nothing we can do about it. So my opinion is I think that the whole short selling, uh, segment needs to be revamped. So that that big players can influence markets. That's what this is about, you know, uh, interestingly enough, uh, back in the day when, uh, radio and TV shows started doing things about stock recommending stocks, quite a few people went to jail because they made record.

[01:32:36] They, they bought, they, they, they bought stock. Then they made recommendations. Their recommendations led to. Increased, uh, trading of that stock, which led to increase in value and then they sold it. It's called the pump and dump, and then everybody wants their money that listen to their advice. And so the, I know the sec has rules about that [01:33:00] now, so that you can't do that kind of thing.

[01:33:03] I think there should be rules about short-selling. I think they, they need to modify it in a way that big billionaires can't change markets, because we all believe that the stock market is real. Like if I, if I make a good investment and the money goes up, I'm going to do well. We don't realize that there's billionaires out there.

[01:33:23] Who, when they start seeing you doing well, they go after your wealth, basically by, by, by destroying that stock. And make and profiting from it as well. So I, I don't, I don't, I don't think it was fair. That game stop, uh, was, was, uh, stopped trading because there were people making money at it. It wasn't like game stop went down so fast that everybody lost their money.

[01:33:48] It was individuals were gaining. They will make them money, but the people who were losing were the people who donate to political campaigns. And that's the big, the wealthy people. [01:34:00] They were the ones that got pissed off like, Oh no, no, we can't afford to lose this money. Put a stop to it, Mr. President. And don't forget this

[01:34:09] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:34:09] movie called get short.

[01:34:11] Carl Lanore: [01:34:11] Yeah. That's about. Yeah. It's about short-selling. Yeah. Who was it? It was a Brad Pitt was the Virginia's trader. These two young guys hooked up with him and they want them to do this thing. And I'll never forget the scene. They were the, literally their actions were going to destroy a very large company and its industry, and they were psyched because they were going to walk away.

[01:34:36] With hundreds of millions of dollars. And the one kid said, I can't believe it. This is going to be so great. And Brad Pitt turns around and said, Hey, we're going to destroy lives for every one point, a percent of unemployment goes up 40,000 people die. We're actually going to kill people. So I hope you're ready for this.

[01:34:57] It's been around for a long time, this stuff, long time. Will you [01:35:00] have any opinions of it

[01:35:02] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:35:02] now? No, I, I just, I don't I'll keep my opinions on that to

[01:35:07] Carl Lanore: [01:35:07] myself. Yeah. But anyway, um, yeah, I think that's something should be done about short selling. I don't, I don't, I think I don't, I'm not saying they should do away with it because I'm not for that.

[01:35:18] I'm for the free market, but the idea is the free market is supposed to be fair. You're supposed to be able to make just as much money as somebody else. They're not supposed to be able to influence and take. Your wealth away from you by taking actions that they can take because they have all this money at their availability.

[01:35:35] It should be a level playing field. And I'll tell you something else. I think the Robin hood app is gone. I'll I'll make you a bet a year from now. We won't know the Robin hood app because the app caters to young people, the app caters to new investors. The name Robin hood is about taking from the rich and giving to the poor.

[01:35:56] And what they did was they took an [01:36:00] order from the rich to shut off the pores ability to continue to invest and make money. So they are not Robin hood. They're the antithesis of Robin hood. They're, they're the, uh, the sheriff of Nottingham. They should come back and call it the sheriff of Nottingham app that we're going to take all your money and give it to the rich, because that's what they did with their actions.

[01:36:22] So I, that I got to believe they're going to be out of business in a year. You won't see the Robin hood app anymore. They're going to have to change their name because they just screwed a lot of their people. That's it? Well, there you go. The first casual Friday is in the books and there'll be more to come.

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[01:37:10] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:37:10] Last Friday

[01:37:11] Carl Lanore: [01:37:11] of the month, right? The last Friday of every month, we will do a casual Friday. So you have plenty of time to get your questions in today is Friday, which means I'm off for the next two days. I'm excited about that. I love Fridays. I love to sit home, have a nice meal and sit next to the woman I love and watch a good movie.

[01:37:28] And that's what we're going to do tonight. Have a wonderful weekend. Everybody. We'll see you next week. And don't forget, please, please share the show.

[01:37:36] TLAT Alisa Profumo: [01:37:36] Bye. [01:38:00]