[00:00:00] Carl Lanore: [00:00:00] Hey. Hey, welcome back to another episode of super human radio. We have a very important show today, for those of you who no matter what you eat, you get bloaty gassy and farty. We have a solution for you before we do that, we have to thank our title sponsor and that's legendary foods right now. They have a brand new tasty pastry.

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[00:01:18] Don't waste any time because these things are amazing. And now. Bring my guest on one of my favorite guests to spend time with is none other than Wade. Lightheart how are you doing Wade?

[00:01:31] Wade Lightheart: [00:01:31] Doing great. Great to be here as always. I love coming on the show. It's so much fun.

[00:01:36] Carl Lanore: [00:01:36] So I got to tell a story to set this discussion up.

[00:01:39] People don't understand how important this is that we're going to talk about. There are people out there that no matter what they eat, they bloat. Even if they go, they're going carnivores. A lot of people, I know they get carnival. I don't understand why I'm getting bloated no matter what they eat, they get bloated and.

[00:01:58] They get gassy. They're [00:02:00] belching all the time. This is not normal folks. This is not normal. And the worst part of it is they generally have flatulence or farting, and these are the most horrible smelling farts in the world. So my nephew, Timmy is living with us. He's been with us for three weeks now and I got him training and eating.

[00:02:20] And so obviously he's a Hunter and he's now, now he's, I think he's 150. Seven pounds. He's put on seven pounds in three weeks and it's not fat. He's getting his abs are starting to show, but I've got him eating 150 to 200 grams of protein a day. Well guess what? Every night, like clockwork work, the kid has to go run outside because he's got such bad guests.

[00:02:44] So I told him about, uh, PCOM and mass Symes and he started using it. And he doesn't have guests anymore. Why? Because the protein is eating is actually being digested and not wasted to [00:03:00] ferment in the colon. This is amazing. This is an example of how well these products work because he was, he was troubled.

[00:03:08] He said, I don't understand this. I don't understand why I'm so gassy. And I said, because the protein's not completely digesting. It's making its way to the colon, digesting to fermentation, and that's making gas. Now it's gone. Isn't that amazing.

[00:03:21] Wade Lightheart: [00:03:21] It's, uh, it's not uncommon and anybody that's been inside a commercial gym, uh, where protein consumption tends to be in the excess.

[00:03:32] Uh, you go into the locker room and, you know, 50, 60% of the time, it's all you can bear to go in there from the stench. Uh, that's going up and these are supposed to be big, strong, healthy people. And you know, years ago I discovered this and a mentor who taught me all about digestive health. Dr. Michael O'Brien.

[00:03:55] It said it to me wave, you've learned to build the body from the outside in what I'm going to [00:04:00] teach you is how to build the body from the inside out. And, you know, for those who don't know, I had a Kumail after the Mr. Universe contest, I had a major digestive. Disaster. I gained 42 pounds of fat and water.

[00:04:14] I had blue, a blue, massive bloating. I couldn't stop it. I had sleep Naveah. I had a DEMA, I had gas Flagyl, all of those things. And this was in 2003, 2004. After the contest was in November in 2004, I'm at disaster. And I'm going, how is this possible? Is. The, you know, I'm, I've reached the pinnacle of the aesthetic idea for human performance.

[00:04:37] I've had Spartan discipline. I've got the best coach in the world. Why am I such a disaster? And fortunately, I ran into Dr. O'Brien and he taught me these things that we're going to share today about the importance of digestion. And he said that undigested protein. Is the most common issue [00:05:00] in inflammatory based conditions across the board for everything, you know, brain fog, skin issues, anxiety, depression, neurochemical imbalances, inflammatory agents inside the allergic reactions.

[00:05:17] As well as, you know, what we typically see is gas in blue, which are just the precursors to something more than that, various coming down the road. And so I'm delighted today to join you and kind of share some of the, uh, the insights that we've learned over the years and been able to provide solutions for people, uh, for the last 15 years.

[00:05:36] Carl Lanore: [00:05:36] Well, and I want to take this a little further and we're not going to get deep into this, but what you're really talking about is the triggers for autoimmunity. When people talk about gluten intolerance, celiac disease, This is undigested gluten. That's making it into the bloodstream. Gluten is protein, it's a protein.

[00:05:55] So most of the autoimmune disorders can be linked back [00:06:00] to rogue proteins, showing up in the bloodstream and triggering the immune system to not only go after that protein, but to go after tissue that. Looks like that protein, which could be thyroid or chondracytes in the joint or rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia.

[00:06:19] It's going after the nerves and agitating. So while we're talking about this from a standpoint of like, Oh, I don't want to be bloated anymore. I don't want to be gassy. I don't want to be fought in all the time. This is, this is those, those components may actually be signs that auto-immune disorders are in your future.

[00:06:38] I would offer. I'm not a doctor, but I would offer that.

[00:06:42] Wade Lightheart: [00:06:42] Well, we're looking at right now in the United States, 12% of the emergency hospital visits are related to gastrointestinal issues and Hippocrates. The father of modern medicine said all disease begins in the gut. [00:07:00] And so what a lot of people don't recognize that well, well, well, you know, wait, Carl, why, why is this happening in the world?

[00:07:06] And it's the unintended consequences of technological innovation. We radically altered the food production and supply chain. 80 years ago, after world war II, we dropped the bomb and started using nitrogen and monoculturing and then a host of chemicals to keep these plants destroying the enzymes and the natural probiotics that were inherent in these foods.

[00:07:26] That would help us break it down. I mean, if you look back to the writings of health, As practitioners in the 19 hundreds, they were using gluten as a source of protein for vegetarians. People were drinking raw milk because of the enzymatic component that broke down the case. And now we all know people who can't digest milk.

[00:07:43] Well, now it's people can't digest wheat. And before, you know, it's people can't digest this. Meat and that meat and it's because of the enzymatic deficiency and the dysbiosis in the microbiome that they don't have enough. Good guys to finish the conversion of the protein [00:08:00] into the amino acids that we need, because we don't need protein.

[00:08:03] We need the amino acids that protein gets broken down to you through the digestive process.

[00:08:09] Carl Lanore: [00:08:09] So with that being said, I also want to say something else. Now my, my listeners know. That I'm not a zealot and I can't put my heart and soul behind products just because someone pays to be a sponsor on the show.

[00:08:27] In fact, we've lost sponsors because they didn't see the results they hope for, because I wasn't willing to really go on the line and say, Oh, buy this. This is great. So I can honestly say that since by optimizes has been a sponsor of this show, my health has improved. And I have benefited from them being sponsors on the show.

[00:08:48] I do not miss a meal without mass Symes and , and I also use their HCL blend, but I use that a little differently. I use that about an hour. [00:09:00] Two 45 minutes after I've eaten the meal so that I change the pH as quickly as possible to a more acidic pH. And my body is finishing finishes, digesting that food.

[00:09:11] So I'm ready for another meal. And I can tell you that the protein that I eat, I eat a lot of protein when I do. I'm time-restricted feeding right now. So tonight I'll eat probably two pounds of beef in one sitting, I take the PCOM and the mass Symes, and it's gone. It goes through me so much faster than just sitting there and waiting to be digested.

[00:09:35] So this is a product I believe in. Because now because their sponsors and they pay to be on the show because it's ads it's helped me. It's helped me feel better. And, and some of my auto-immune issues are really getting better because I'm very diligent. Here's the other thing I want to say. He can't, these are not products that you buy and you use them for a month and he'd go, well, that didn't do anything because the [00:10:00] terrain of your stomach takes, took a long time to get EFT up.

[00:10:04] It takes a long time to get back to normal where you want it to be. So you have to use these things consistently. I would say three to six months, and then all of a sudden you'll go. Man, nothing though. The foods don't bother me the way they used to. So I just want to put those two disclaimers out there.

[00:10:19] Cause I don't want somebody to buy it and go, I used it for a month. Carl, I don't know what you're raving about a month. Isn't long enough to change the terrain of your stomach because it took you decades to get it where it is today.

[00:10:30] Wade Lightheart: [00:10:30] Absolutely. And I think that's, you know, in the holistic and natural health industry, the difference between kind of our medical version and we've become addicted to, I have a problem.

[00:10:43] I need a pill to just fix the symptom. I'm the discomfort. The discomfort is supposed to be a signal for us to alter our behavior. And when you keep shutting off the discomfort components, which was primarily what a lot of our, uh, [00:11:00] medical interactions are doing. And obviously if you're in excruciating pain from something, I think that's a positive thing.

[00:11:07] However you have to realize is that pain or discomfort is serves as a heightened sense of awareness. It's a biological system for us to move away from that which could be causing disruption in our body. And. As the pharmaceutical dependency has happened in a new England journal of medicine has written, we do not treat disease.

[00:11:30] We treat the symptoms of the disease. Doctors are not trained in providing you proper. Uh, nutritional information, proper, uh, explanations of how your digestive system works. They're just like, Oh, you got a problem. We're going to cut that piece out of your colon. We're going to incinerate those polyps.

[00:11:50] We're going to give you a drug to manage the inflammatory conditions and anti arthritic condition. We're going to give you an antidepressant to deal with the neurochemical imbalances. [00:12:00] We're going to give you an antibiotic to deal with the, uh, your inability to manage the bacteria, which we're exposed to.

[00:12:07] And we've, we've now we're living in this world that people can interact. There we're locked into warehouses. We're told that we're supposed to wear mass, which don't make any sense. And we're actually accelerating our natural defense mechanisms on top of that, we're providing a host of foods that, that tastes great, but do not provide the nutrition and oftentimes feed the bad bacteria causing these disposals, this biosis.

[00:12:37] And what do we have? We have people who are fat. Who are tired, who are scared, who don't, uh, are, are fearful in the world and all of this correlates with your bacteria structure inside your. Intestinal track, which managed and develops a lot of the neurochemicals that make your brain operate properly. And when you [00:13:00] have quote, unquote stinking thinking or averse to normal human interaction, a lot of it can be traced to a dysfunctional microbiome and we has.

[00:13:14] Natural health advocates, and I'm not against the medical system. What I'm against is the over-reliance and dependency upon symptom based edge issues, as opposed to addressing the underlying lifestyle issue. And that means we have to take personal responsibility. And so in my own case, and I'm preaching because I had to do the exact same thing.

[00:13:38] I had to stop what I was doing. I had to re-introduce the proper enzymes and hydrochloric acid and the proper bacteria back into my intestinal tract. And guess what? In six months, not only did I go from being 42 pounds over my, the way that I should have been at, I got my health back, but here's the part that was interesting [00:14:00] leading up to my competitive endeavors.

[00:14:03] You know, I had joint pain. I had brain fog. I had low energy of my skin. Wasn't great. And that was just a generally accepted norm in the world of high-performance bodybuilding. They said, no, that's this contest dieting that's normal. So what I was following was quote unquote, a performance-based diet that allowed me to perform at a certain level, but that was compromising my health.

[00:14:32] And then when I got it back, I got my health figured out. Not only could I have the health, I could also have the performance and the aesthetics, which is why we deal with those three areas that people get attracted this. And so for those who are listening, I'm encouraging to listen to what is sharing with you because you have the power to transform and take charge of your health.

[00:14:54] And if you don't, you will absolutely

[00:14:58] Carl Lanore: [00:14:58] lose it. Yeah, [00:15:00] it's, it's a scary, and th the problem really is in the, in the words of Dr. Suzanne Turner, who has been working with me on some of these auto-immune issues, it's a lot easier to stop these things from beginning than it is to reverse them. Once they begin.

[00:15:16] And you know, that, that, so if you, if you're saying yeah, but I don't have these problems, occasionally I do get gassy. This is, there's nothing wrong with using these supplements as a prophylactic to developing problems. I want to talk now specifically about this unique strain, uh, of a well-known well-studied.

[00:15:37] Probiotic. Yes. Talk about it, talk about it.

[00:15:40] Wade Lightheart: [00:15:40] Okay. So when we started doing or work with, uh, the good doctor back in the day, we had, he understood that there was a big issue with undigested proteins as we identified in the correlative problems. And. When you looked at all the different settings, there's all these different types of strains.

[00:15:59] L [00:16:00] plantarum was a very robust strain. Now I'm going to extrapolate where the thinking came about this particular product, because this is beyond L plantarum. You can't, you can go out and get L plant airmen, right. Which is aggressive and it's a good string. But what he was able to determine is he knew as a medical doctor, that there was a big issue with, um, Antibiotic resistant bacteria in hospital settings because of the prolific use of antibiotics that, um, the bacteria in hospitals eventually developed resistance to the strains.

[00:16:38] And one of the most unsafe place you can go now is a hospital. In fact, I have a. My friend who was a medical surgeon from Harvard put the first stent in the body. He said, what's amazing. Over the last 40 years of his career, was that the amazing breakthroughs that surgery has? Like, you know, like when they used to have to open up your whole body and use a micro decision, it goes, [00:17:00] but the ironic thing is, is people aren't dying from the surgeries.

[00:17:03] Like they used to, people are dying from the infection from the surgery, you know, it's completely, it's not the problem, but the bacteria is the issue now. Michael understood this and what he went out and did. And he started to search around for. Robust bacteria L plantarum fit that bill. And what he did is the same mentality that they did that happened.

[00:17:27] Um, unin unintendedly in hospitals is he took, we took that bacteria and we put it inside a toxic soup, a soup, basically that the bacteria would have no capabilities of surviving. However, He ran a little sign wave through the toxic surf that would allow some of the better of these bacterias to survive.

[00:17:53] What was remaining after a period of time, as you had 2%, maybe 5% somewhere in that range [00:18:00] of bacteria strains, which had mutated in a developed. Robust capabilities over more L over other elk owners, and then started growing those new mutated strains on a variety of different mediums to see which ones were working best.

[00:18:18] And we were able to take that to the next level. We actually hired PhDs and we have a pH, a couple of PhDs in microbiome. And what we do is we subject. Bacteria strains to a variety of kitchens, everything from EMS to giving them vitamins, you name it. We put dyes, we try all these different things and see what happens.

[00:18:39] And it turns out the L plantarum has an incredible ability to break down undigested protein, turn it into amino acids. We put up the patent. On our website and the reason I cannot say, and the world that we live in,

[00:18:55] Carl Lanore: [00:18:55] all of the Cape 

[00:18:57] Wade Lightheart: [00:18:57] that that product has. [00:19:00] But I can tell you this. I have absolutely no fear about obtaining any sort of viral infection.

[00:19:11] None. Why? Because I have been taking my P through M. Every day for the last 15 years every night, I take it before I go ahead. And anytime I feel a little bit off, I've been on the planes. I've been out in public. I've been exposed to something. Here's what I do. I come home, I take 10 15 of these things at night or night.

[00:19:34] It goes away the next morning. Just a little snip, a little, anything that goes up. Boom. Um, we take people who have food poisoning. Which is just bad bacteria, digesting it and creating toxins inside the body that upsets the body. Undefeated. We've taken hundreds of people, but I'm the most popular guy.

[00:19:54] Every time I go to a Mexican resort because everybody gets, you know, you know, [00:20:00] I actually, when I go to these places, I take a suitcase. Full of pizzeria OEMs, because invariably, I'm going to run into people and I'm like, here, just take a bottle of this. They're in pain. They're like, just take a bite of that.

[00:20:13] Eat, just dump the whole bottle down your stomach. You'll be okay. In 30 minutes. I guess what every single time that's what happens if they're fine in 30 minutes, it's that powerful, that in that effective. And so I feel it's my duty, my responsibility by moral and ethical requirements. And one of the foundational things, since I did this for myself and Matt did it, my co-founder, we said that we were going to continue this message on Dr.

[00:20:38] Michael is not with us anymore. And I swore at her, I said to him, I will continue. To tell this technology in this products and these things for the rest of my life, and that's what we continue to do at BiOptimizers. And it's really exciting to share it with your listeners.

[00:20:52] Carl Lanore: [00:20:52] There was a physician on my show, probably over a decade, maybe 11 or 12 years ago.

[00:20:59] And she was a [00:21:00] physician from the UK who had a son that had autism. And her book, she wrote it's still out there in publication, was all about the fact that she discovered by giving her. So her son had terrible GI distress, which most people who have children on the spectrum know two things about them. Uh, they, they gravitate to sugar.

[00:21:24] They love sugar. Uh, they're obstinate and defiant about eating healthier foods. They just won't do it. They don't like the taste. They become defiant. And then they end up with horrible stomach problems, stomach pain and difficulty constipation. So she experimented with probiotics and she discovered that giving her child L plantarum would.

[00:21:50] Alleviate the stomach distress. Well, it also changed his level of defiance and obstinance and the kid became [00:22:00] more manageable and over time he became and see, like I said before, it takes time for the gut to change over once he was a different child and she couldn't believe it. And so she had to write a book about it because.

[00:22:12] She felt that every parent who had a child on the spectrum needed to know about this. And so she was on my show. I just pulled up a study on, on the national institutes of health, where they gave a lactobacillus plantarum, uh, to children on the spectrum disorder. In Taiwan of all places and I'll, I'll, I'm going to glean this study, but the bottom line of the study was, uh, the results showed that the L plantarium Amelia Miller created opposition defiance behavior, and that the total score of snap, which is the, the system that the scoring system they use for opposition, um, for younger children, aged seven to 12 improved significantly compared with the placebo group.

[00:22:58] Now think about this for a second. [00:23:00] Yeah. You're talking about how they, uh, how the dysbiosis in the gut can lead to anxiety, social distress, and all that sort of stuff. Well, and people may say, Oh, come on Wade. You're just pushing your product. Well, here's a scientific study that shows that children on the spectrum who are unmanageable became less defiant, more manageable and more.

[00:23:25] From the spectrum to the normal side that they should have been by taking L plantarum that okay. That was a broad strain. Yours is stronger. I would submit. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a microbiologist, but if the basic strain works, then the improved, stronger, a more robust strain should work and maybe work even better.

[00:23:48] So we're talking about probiotics here and people may think, Oh yeah, I get my probiotics at Walgreens or CVS or Duane Reed. And you know, nobody. No, no, no. This isn't your [00:24:00] grandmother's probiotic. This is scientifically shown. To change the way people act, even if they're on the spectrum, what could it do for you?

[00:24:10] If you just have periods of, uh, she, I, I get depressed some days. I just don't feel good. Maybe it's the microbes in your gut producing chemicals that are messing with your brain. We know that we know that people say, Oh, I crave something. Right. You don't crave it. The microbes in your gut crave it. They're sending signals to your brain.

[00:24:30] That's why, when I was giving up coffee, I would drive best pest Starbucks. I would look at Starbucks. My brain would say, they're Starbucks. The microbes in my gut would go feed me, feed me, feed me. And I almost have to talk myself out of driving into Starbucks to get a coat after a couple of weeks, it subsided, but the microbes in your gut cause the cravings for sugar, they want sugar.

[00:24:54] You don't want it, they want it. And then you feed them. That's what they do. The little bastards. They poop [00:25:00] out stuff that messes with you. It causes inflammation. It causes your brain not to work well. So we are actually the support system and the slaves for the microbes that live in our gut. They can, they don't have hands.

[00:25:16] They don't have feet that we do their job for them.

[00:25:19] Wade Lightheart: [00:25:19] It's an insult, you know, I've, I've theorized about this many times about it is a symbiotic relationship. And if you actually look are the species which we share the most common elements is it's fun guy. We're, we're actually more like fun guy than anything else.

[00:25:38] And we had a common ancestor both 300 million years ago or something like that. According to science, right. Well, I had this whole thought like, well, what if humans are actually just a manufactured space suit for the bacteria strains that they all hang out and drive the

[00:25:54] Carl Lanore: [00:25:54] ship? Same exact thing. Like, like bacteria said, you know, we need, we need somebody who can [00:26:00] stand up and grab stuff off of trees.

[00:26:02] We need someone who can walk around for us. And they are really the ones that are driving us. And we're just kind of like the vehicle. That's all we are.

[00:26:09] Wade Lightheart: [00:26:09] If you look at bacteria, they're the most unique species. They fly through space on asteroids and survive and land in different lands. They can, they can stay dormant for hundreds, maybe even thousands of years before they come reactivated.

[00:26:23] Under other things, conditions they're found in hot lab of bolt. They just recently found some bacteria on Mars. Um, so, you know, like, Bacteria is the foundational single cell organisms that give seed to

[00:26:42] Carl Lanore: [00:26:42] virtually all life.

[00:26:44] Wade Lightheart: [00:26:44] And certainly with sentient beings like human beings. We're just literally every day, there's new information coming about, about the symbiotic relationship and its requirement.

[00:26:58] And so what we have to [00:27:00] recognize is we need to nurture the guys that are going to support our health, our happiness, and we need to address the ones that are not supporting that. And for those people who are feeling the malaise of. I would call it, say that's technological innovation because we live in this highly technologically innovative world, which has a lot of benefits.

[00:27:22] And if you think about the level of ease, that the average person experiences relative to humans throughout history, it's unparalleled. We live in unparalleled wealth. Never before seen yet. We have probably the most unhappy popul population ever in history. So what's the correlation? Well, the correlation is because we're not cultivating a proper symbiotic relationship in our inner terrain.

[00:27:51] And El plantarium is one of those things that can help people do that. In fact, we have a whole suite of digestive AIDS around this because we've literally dedicated [00:28:00] our companies. Resources for 15 years to solve these problems because they're so widespread.

[00:28:08] Carl Lanore: [00:28:08] Nah, we're going to take a break, but I just want to tell my audience about.

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[00:28:38] But. More importantly, when you get to that page, you can actually save up to 38% off of PCOM. And I'm telling you, it takes three to six months for the gut to actually start to change. So this is not going to be a waste of money. Folks, you will see results. If you use this product consistently [00:29:00] day in and day out with your meals.

[00:29:02] Again, SHR network.biz/p three O M code SHR 10, or bioptimizers.com and, uh, slash uh, SHR and SHR 10 is the code jump on this. I'm not kidding around. This is, this is, this will change your gut. If you're like me and you've developed gut problems and it's a lifesaver stay tuned. We'll be right back with more soup where we use oxygen for the power of doing.

[00:29:36] Welcome back. I'm getting a little more sophisticated with the production of the video. I don't know if you were trying to run commercials, you know, visual commercials. It's just a lot more for me to do, but eventually I will get a producer in here that will produce my show for me. We'll talk, I'm trying, you know, um, I want to keep it fresh.

[00:29:55] I want to stay current. I don't want to get. You know, um, to, uh, old [00:30:00] looking like, Oh, you know, and he doesn't do anything. Uh I'm I'm trying, we're here today with Wade. Lightheart from bioptimizers.com. We're talking about , which is an amazing probiotic that everyone should be taking really, um, There are certain supplements that are foundational.

[00:30:17] And then there's the sexy ones that you try. You move them in and out. Yeah, it didn't do anything, but there's certain supplements that are foundational. And the reality is that BiOptimizers focuses on foundational supplements, uh, that, that help you build and maintain a healthy gut. And most of the diseases of modernity come from the gut.

[00:30:39] If you look at autoimmune disorders, people develop rheumatoid arthritis, they develop all of these different, uh, uh, autoimmune disorders. They always have horrible guts. They have horrible guts for a decade. Then all of a sudden this other symptom comes up. Don't be one of those people. Like if you even see that your gut isn't doing well.

[00:30:58] Things you eat are making you [00:31:00] burp all the time. You're gassy. You feel bloated. Your stomach is getting distended. You go, my God, I can't believe my stomach is sticking out so far. Bloating and distended stomachs is not normal. It's not, and this is the way you keep these problems from really causing you lifelong illness.

[00:31:20] You take care of your gut now. Um, so we talked about how autism is affected by this particular probiotic. There's also a study out there that shows that this probiotic may possess some sort of anti-aging that was given to rodents at one time. And they started to display, uh, the same, uh, actions and, and ability to work through the maze faster as their younger counterparts.

[00:31:48] Is there any evidence that you've come across that this may affect maybe the accumulation of senescent cells or, or anything like that? Well,

[00:31:57] Wade Lightheart: [00:31:57] I would say from a general [00:32:00] observational point, because one of the things that we are very advocate, we just came out with a new book called the buy optimization blueprint.

[00:32:06] Which is how we systemically go through addressing how do we not just live long lives strong while we live long. In other words, can we extend our lifespan, but we certainly can, um, extend what our healthy lifespan and right now the new England journal of medicine, uh, did an article from a professor Oshinsky, uh, during the Bush administration, which was.

[00:32:33] Forcibly redacted. Uh, he wasn't allowed to make some of the conclusions that he made, and that was number one for the first time ever. Uh, Americans' lifespan was on the decline, but the disability adjusted lifespan was 60 years old. In other words, the expectation was as an American, you would have some sort of disability associated.

[00:32:57] Uh, with becoming 60 years old, you'd be [00:33:00] dependent on some sort of medical intervention that compromise the quality, leave your life to varying degrees for the rest of your years. Devastating. Andy also stated that children today had a lower life expectancy than their parents for the first time ever. And of course, a couple of years ago.

[00:33:16] Um, when the research came out about the abuse of opiates, um, particularly in the Midwestern places that life expectancy started to drop again, because people are dropping off at a much earlier age because of the dependency on these, which oftentimes have correlation with depression and inflammatory conditions and dysbiosis that we were talking about, the ability to manage neuro-transmitter formation.

[00:33:39] And we know that depression. And not just the clinical depression, but just, uh, lower levels of depression that people say, Oh, I'm not feeling good. Or I don't have that. Zest for life are definitely correlated with shorter lifespans. And so what I would put forth in all species, what I would put forth [00:34:00] is.

[00:34:01] And I'm extrapolating theory to kind of go here. I want to be clear. I'm not a medical doctor. I'm not even a researcher. I'm not a life extension guy or whatever. However, I think that using common sense and deductive reasoning and rationale, anytime that I can reduce the load of. Damaging materials entering into my, the body, whether that's a bacteria, whether that's a virus, whether that is a freeze radical from a chemical or from something that I've taken in, I am going to preserve some of the natural resources of it.

[00:34:40] Well, bill available to my body. Yeah. I would put forth the concept of, we have the it's often described as the life force, the land Vitale, the energetic components of the body. And there's a variety of ways to achieve that. I would also say that anything that [00:35:00] causes damage to the system psychologically, emotionally biochemically physiologically, or whatever.

[00:35:06] Requires us to gent to, to take these resources in order to create the repair and regeneration of

[00:35:12] Carl Lanore: [00:35:12] that tissue. In fact, that that, that, that phenomenon is called allostatic load. It's the accumulation of this little thing and that little thing and that little thing. And as the years roll out all of your, your, your body man.

[00:35:28] Okay. You hurt your ankle when you were 14 years old, your body manages that. Now you hurt your knee. Your body matters that now you're starting to see the signs of aging where maybe you've got neuropathies and that your body, all of a sudden, all of the resources of just living are going to managing the alostatic load of all the things that have gone wrong with your body.

[00:35:51] Yeah, Julie, right? It's a fact, it's a phenomenon.

[00:35:54] Wade Lightheart: [00:35:54] And, and anyone can draw on this from just observation. For example, if I was [00:36:00] to go out and start abusing like crystal meth and heroin or something, the aging in degeneration that would happen to my body would accelerate the aging process significantly. And yeah.

[00:36:13] The likelihood of my lifespan, uh, shrinking rapidly, as well as the quality of my life is obvious. Anyone that has seen anyone or knows anyone that has been caught in the throes of addiction to these horrible agents witnesses is that we also know from longevity studies is the one common element that we have determined.

[00:36:36] Is a reduction of food consumption. That's the one element that will extend life. So I will look at it. It was well, is it actually the food, the reduction of food consumption is the issue. And I put forth, I don't think that's the issue. I think it is the capability of managing the food that you're eating is determinant.

[00:37:00] [00:37:00] In the longterm, because there's another aspect to this equation that I think is now starting to get more traction in that is nutrient optimization for longevity. So many diseases or conditions or fail failures within the natural biochemical processes inside the body are associated with deficiencies.

[00:37:25] And we're widely deficient and almost no one knows what an optimal level of as for longevity. And so I would put forth that not only does one have to reduce the, the load of chemicals, visitation, and toxicity in the system, you need to optimize the digestive process so that you can. Cut down on that load.

[00:37:47] And then the third thing is, is you need to, to be able to identify and address the nutrient deficiencies that you might have due to genetics, epigenetics, or digestive dysfunction, or some, uh, disrupted process inside the body [00:38:00] and address those, those things. And I think if you do that three pronged approach, you are going to see an extension.

[00:38:08] Per certainly in the quality of life and, and perhaps even an extension. And so one of the reasons that we started with digestion is we knew that that is how we generally obtain all of these things and such. A hundred million people on any given day in this country with digestive issues, a hundred, like a third of the population with 20% of those on permanent prescription medications.

[00:38:35] Right? Let's, let's, let's address that to improve the quality of life. And, you know, for 15 years, I get testimonials every single week from people who have made astounding shifts in the quality of their life from using our products, right. That's why we give them money back guarantee. If people don't feel amazing from it, if they don't, I don't like it.

[00:38:54] We provide, uh, information of how to use it and utilize it. And the various things that you can do [00:39:00] in order to optimize its performance, as well as other things. We give away education courses about lifestyle intervention that you can make and chain alterations. And it's just a great day. I mean, every day I wake up and I'm excited to share these things with people because I want to live a long time and I want to live strong during that lifetime.

[00:39:17] And for people who are interested in that, um, I think we provide some, some options

[00:39:21] Carl Lanore: [00:39:21] for them. And , I want to, I want to capitalize on something you said for a second, because it's something that I've always theorized to. The real value in caloric restriction is less wear and tear. And so think about this for a second.

[00:39:36] If you have a car, it, and it has a hundred thousand miles on it. The engine goes bad. I mean, we know why the shocks and the tires go bad because there's wear and tear on them. But the engine wears out because of the wear and tear of consuming combusting fuel, just that process. So. If you had the ability to [00:40:00] take some of that wear and tear off of the engine, the engine would last forever.

[00:40:05] If you change your oil every day, if you did a tune up every day, if you put the engine back into its its ideal, uh, status every single day, then you would end up with an engine that goes. 500, 600, 800,000 miles without any problem, what these products do is they take the wear and tear off of the gut from handling and doing the things it needs to do with food.

[00:40:31] It enhances digestion, take some of the workload of breaking the food down, make it easier to digest the system. The system is in taxed as much just making the food move through. So it makes perfect sense. What you just said a why? This type of an approach of dealing with digestion would enhance lifespan in my humble opinion, because it's it, the reason calorie restriction works isn't because you're starving yourself because that's the miserable part.

[00:40:59] It's [00:41:00] because you're not putting through all that fuel and the, and the body has to deal with it and the wear and tear, uh, and end result of that. It makes perfect sense. It really does. Really does. Um, so I want to ask you something you just mentioned. So people who take opioids have horrible gut problems, I'm sure that you're aware of this.

[00:41:20] Right? I ended up very constipated. What would Pete vom be a good idea for people who are taking legitimately having to take opioids for pain management, they really don't have any other choice, uh, and maybe pique your own mass sign and, and the, uh, HCL, uh, the hydrochloric acid supplement that I use. Uh post-meal could it help them?

[00:41:42] It may not increase gut motility, but wouldn't it at least allow them to have a more normal functioning digestive process.

[00:41:52] Wade Lightheart: [00:41:52] Well, I'm not a medical expert on those areas. However, I would extrapolate some information. I think that makes [00:42:00] logical sense. Anytime that you are taking, uh, an externalized drug, chemical, uh, whatever, the medical requirement that your doctor has provided you are feeding the bacteria inside your body, which are essential.

[00:42:19] To your life. And they are getting exposed to the same drugs, the same chemicals, the same animal, whatever that service is. Right. And the reaction within those strains is going to be so significant. And I do believe that I think that the reason people will gravitate to certain types of diets or will gravitate or have a wide variance in the reactivity.

[00:42:47] Uh, various drugs that they're taking are directly correlated to the impact and the, the nature of their own microbiome. I think this is the controlling element. We're looking [00:43:00] for a biochemical. Action. But what we are not taking into consideration is the issue of how much or how well that drug is, or that chemical is absorbed, utilized, and distributed to the body.

[00:43:16] And what residual side effects might entail, because maybe you don't have the bacteria that manages that very well. Maybe you have the bacteria that makes the polypeptide chains for your neuro-transmitters. And that, that this could be the thing that changes

[00:43:29] Carl Lanore: [00:43:29] everything. I have to offer evidence of, of how spot on you are when pharmaceutical companies make drugs that they want to distribute globally.

[00:43:40] They have to do different research in India, for instance, than in the United States, because the Indian population has vastly different microbiome than here in the United States. They have, they can have a drug that works marvelous easily here in the United States, but in India it produces no benefits at all.

[00:43:58] So. You're spot [00:44:00] on the microbiome plays a large role in both the effects and the effectiveness of drugs. And when you get into different populations, they have to do research just on those, those, uh, those groups. Uh, I, I have to put something up here for Natalie to, uh, it looks like SHR network.biz/p three O M link is not working.

[00:44:23] So we'll look into that, but in the meantime, you can use bioptimizers.com/shr. And I'll put that up here, uh, for everybody to see here in just a second. So we'll do that. Yeah. Natalie, I need you to check if you're still watching live, it looks like, uh, the P three O M. Link that we created on, on our Bitly.

[00:44:46] Cause we like to track this stuff too. Uh, it doesn't look like it's working properly. We'll get that fixed right away. But yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. Otherwise, otherwise they would just test all their drugs here in the United States and they would work all over the world, but they don't.

[00:45:00] [00:45:00] Wade Lightheart: [00:45:00] You know, this is one of my pet peeves, um, within, uh, double blind research studies where they selected group of individuals for their trials. But what they don't attest for is unique bio-individuality of that particular groups. We don't know what their microbiome is. We don't know what their epigenetics are.

[00:45:21] We don't know what their genetic stuff, we don't know what systems are comprised within those individuals. And therefore. We're still making very, very broad, general generalizations on the research and evidence that's put forth in the course. Most integrous researchers will say the same thing. They'll say, well, we need more studies to do determine whether this is true.

[00:45:45] Now here's the problem with that. You and I have a limited time on this planet. And if we're in a compromised situation specifically or where our quality of life was directly compromised, we don't have [00:46:00] time to wait for 30 years of medical research in order to fix their problem, nor do we want to wait.

[00:46:07] Uh, in order to, to, to see if, well, should I take this or take that? So we've cut the curve. That's why we cut the curve. That's why we back everything with a hundred percent guarantee. That's why, if something doesn't work for people in an amazing way, we just give them money back. Why? Because we are encouraging people to do what humans have done throughout history and that's to take control of their health by running experiments on themselves.

[00:46:34] In a controlled manner saying, Hey, you know what, I'm going to try this product for a month. I'm going to try this training program for a month. I'm going to try this diet for a month. I'm going to extend a personal. Experiment on myself and see what the results are. And one of the things I think, why you and I connect so well, Carl is because we have been continuously doing a variety of experiments on ourselves, virtually our whole

[00:46:58] Carl Lanore: [00:46:58] adult life.

[00:46:59] Wade Lightheart: [00:46:59] Yes. [00:47:00] It gives a zest for life. It gives nuance into research versus a clickable stuff that, you know, really produces results and it makes life fun and exciting. And Hey, I, I I'm like you, I've got tons of experiments that failed,

[00:47:18] Carl Lanore: [00:47:18] but they didn't

[00:47:19] Wade Lightheart: [00:47:19] really feel because I learned some learned will work for me.

[00:47:24] I didn't get the result. I hope sometimes I get the

[00:47:26] Carl Lanore: [00:47:26] results that I've done and expect. Ryan,

[00:47:29] Wade Lightheart: [00:47:29] but what's exciting is every day we get on the call and you and I, that we get on these calls or my other friends in this community. And we're excited about life because like, Hey, I tried this new thing. Hey, what'd you get out of it.

[00:47:39] And then all of a sudden we're back into the discovery of life instead of just push a button and get instructed by

[00:47:46] Carl Lanore: [00:47:46] whoever to believe this

[00:47:48] Wade Lightheart: [00:47:48] or to do this, or to become completely dependent on somebody else's opinion. And I don't. Anticipate, or I don't want any will just to believe me for what I say. I don't want anybody to say, Oh, here's their, [00:48:00] he's a whatever.

[00:48:00] Or they, they, they say he's, uh, uh, he's just on a soapbox promoting his product or that doesn't work or whatever. Hey, I'm willing to put my money on the table. All in. I take away all the risks for people. You don't have to risk anything. What have you got to lose? Nothing. What do you potentially have to gain?

[00:48:19] Everything. And when you have those kinds of options in life, then I think you can, can move forward in life in a great way. And humanity can get a little healthier.

[00:48:31] Carl Lanore: [00:48:31] Um, we're going to take a break here. So here's the deal? It's the SHR network.biz/p three O M the P the O and the Emma lowercase. It works.

[00:48:41] The problem is that you have a lowercase P. And uppercase O and M, but I'll have Natalie make both of those functioning links for anybody, uh, who may make the error. I, it may be that way on the placard that I have running too. So we'll get that fixed here really quickly. We're going to take a quick commercial break.

[00:48:58] I have one more [00:49:00] thing I want to ask Wade about when they exposed this particular strain of, uh, of L plantarum to what the effects were, stay tuned. We're going to learn something interesting.

[00:49:14] Welcome back. Something's fascinating to me. You mentioned that when you guys were working on developing Rio, you exposed this particular probiotic to a variety of different potential insults, uh, that could have changed it, mutated it, and so on. And you mentioned RF. There is now research showing. That the RF from our 3g and above cell phones is actually changing microbiome diversity.

[00:49:43] You know, we're not thinking about this, right? People carry their phones in their pockets. You know, you've got a router that's probably in that same frequency range that you're living around. You probably have a cordless phone in your home. That's in that same frequency range and we are now seeing shifts.

[00:49:58] Uh, so, so the [00:50:00] studies I saw only showed shifts between. Bacterial deets and Firmicutes, but there is, there's plenty of evidence that a shift in those can lead to obesity or leanness. And so what did you learn when you did do or did you get anything out of exposing, uh, this particular probiotic to RF? Did it, did it kill it?

[00:50:21] Did it make it thrive? Anything?

[00:50:24] Wade Lightheart: [00:50:24] Great questions. Sometime this year and we are compiling an extensive amount of research of what is supportive to, uh, the strains and some of the other strains that we've developed. Um, what I can say is that EMF rated radiation. As a general rule on a boat, 80% of the bacteria will cause negative mutations.

[00:50:55] However, under certain circumstances in the presence of [00:51:00] specific vitamins and minerals and things like that, there can be a mutation in the positive sort of direction really well. It's not totally negative right now. So were the results that we have right now are inconclusive. Another words we're trying to generate a supportive environment so that when exposed to radio actor, electromagnetic pollution are frequencies that we can find a way to mitigate an optimized by teaching the bacteria, how to adapt to the frequencies.

[00:51:37] And so what I would say is that everything that we experience in life. Is, uh, an adaptive, evolutionary response and we're to provide, or to use our intelligence, to be able to quote unquote, roll with the punches. Right. In other words, if you look at Darwin's work with the blue footed [00:52:00] bluey bird, I love that guy.

[00:52:02] He didn't say survival of the fittest. He said survival of the most adaptable. And I would say that. Taking regular amounts of quality nutrients in the body, quality bacteria out plant chairman stuff will help you give yourself an evolutionary advantage under the electromagnetic circumstances and all the generalized chemical nature of the world that we live in a highly technologically innovative world.

[00:52:33] And I would say that if you don't do that, The challenge, the, the challenges between you and your offspring are well evidence. We're just taking a walk down the street and listening to parents and families and all the complications that they're having surviving under these conditions. And so for us, our mission is to keep spreading this, to end physical suffering, to activate biologically optimize health.

[00:52:56] And I do believe we are going to be able to release that [00:53:00] research a little bit later this year. And it's groundbreaking

[00:53:04] Carl Lanore: [00:53:04] because. I've said, you know, people think we've stopped evolving. There are new selection pressures weighing on us right now, but they're not famine. They're not ice age. They're the, the modern, uh, technologies that we've introduced, blue light, you know, all this stuff.

[00:53:22] And it makes perfect sense that there is yet going to be another. Um, calling if you will, if people we're not equipped, so what'll happen is they'll die before they have offspring, they'll develop diseases and not have offspring, and they will be weeded out of the gene pool because they couldn't to steal your term roll with the punches of modernity.

[00:53:45] So we're still evolving. We're still watching evolution here, folks. It's true.

[00:53:49] Wade Lightheart: [00:53:49] Evolution. Doesn't stop and creation. Is nothing more than the evolutionary adaptation to whatever pressures that we are going through. We're traveling at [00:54:00] 1.5 million miles an hour, blasted out of the center of the universe. 14 billionaires are spinning around a galaxy of 500 million, a thousand miles an hour, spinning on a planet at 24,000 month.

[00:54:10] Like. We're living in an extremely remarkable state of existence just to even be here and to think that things have stopped is absolutely insane and asinine. And so as intelligent people, we want to put every resource that we can. To encourage the growth and development and evolution of life and eliminate the things that we think they're going to do that process.

[00:54:37] I do believe it's our moral and ethical duty. And thank you for having me on the superhuman podcast, because it's so great to

[00:54:41] Carl Lanore: [00:54:41] be here. Thank you for being here today. And we're actually going to pull the plug. This is all we have for. Uh, this week. So we'll see you next week with more. And please, please. Uh, we're going to fix this link here, but go to go to bioptimizers.com/shr.

[00:54:57] Use the code SHR 10 to save 10% off and check [00:55:00] out the plans where you can actually save up to 38%. We'll see everybody next week. Take care of brother. Take care. Okay.