Master kettle-bell coach, author and formulator joins us today to talk about adrenaline dominance, the assault on masculinity, how to vegan properly and much more. It's always a lively conversation when Mike joins Carl.

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[00:00:00] Hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. Today is the show that we've been planning to do. We had a little mix-up on the difference between the Pacific and East Coast time, but I am here today with an old friend Mike Mala. How you doing? Mike? I'm doing good actually giving me flashbacks to hear that intro music.

[00:00:51] Haven't heard that in a long time. I like it. I know it is, you know, I we know what I like about it whenever it says, you know, no excuses. I mean, right. Really [00:01:00] man. The show is about that one at the end of the day, you know, if endow yourself with information you take action no excuses. That's it.

[00:01:07] Absolutely. I would say a problem is only a problem. If you don't know what to do about it when you know what to do about it. It's not that bad. I mean, it's still a problem but it's it doesn't get your adrenaline through the roof as we're going to talk about today. I mean, I had a nasty groin injury in January.

[00:01:22] I was doing deficit trap are deadlifts and there's nothing wrong with that exercise. I just had this inner thigh pain and I ignored it and just kept on. More weight and then I put on a weight that is light for me. But once I lifted the bar off the ground I felt this stretch. You think it's you do quality.

[00:01:36] Just hair it. Yeah, you did. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't a full tear and might not even have been a terror was a stretch but I'll tell you what it was. So painful me just like I was lying on the sofa later on that day. My leg my right leg fell off and I couldn't raise it back up to the pains are shot through my pelvis.

[00:01:53] I couldn't sit up either. It's a lot of times they say that's a sports hernia when you have those symptoms real so I I was [00:02:00] I was like, wow, I'm gonna be out of commission for a while, but let me get into action as fast as possible and see how quickly I can recover and I'll tell you what it was the combination of Active Release Technique.

[00:02:11] I've gone to these Active Release Technique practitioners for over 15 years, and I've always had great results in there sooner. Get to them the better. So this injury happened on a Saturday by that following Monday. I was meeting up with this guy. Dr. Booth here in Henderson, Nevada. And after one session I felt about 20% better.

[00:02:27] I mean, it was crazy painful anyone who's ever done Active Release Technique, but when you're already in so much pain who cares well in the irony is that we not do when you do it. It actually feels better afterwards when you did active really and you feel pain because they they're usually trying to impinge a muscle and keep it from moving and then they want.

[00:02:46] Activate the muscle and stretch it red. So it's painful but then after would you like? Oh feels a lot better. Yes specially the next day. I noticed a big difference and I went to him took about four sessions over the course of a few weeks, but I [00:03:00] was back to doing pretty heavy partial deadlifts after about two weeks and I wasn't expecting to be able to deadlift it all for a probably months.

[00:03:06] I was in so much pain and then I got stem cells from my friend. Dr. Julio Garcia and I've had stem cells a couple times. I've had it in my elbow lower back in there now. Did in the groin so that was fun. So I had yeah stem cells and what's the other one platelet-rich? Yeah Erp. Yeah, very very very promising therapy for a variety of reasons.

[00:03:26] Yeah. Absolutely that made a difference. I think that put me over the top the Active Release Technique was maybe 75 80 percent of it and that I got another 10-15 percent. Maybe I would have got more if I did it soon. I just didn't think of it right away. But what made the whole point of this story is that people get injuries like this all the time and what happens when you go to the emergency room or you go to a physician?

[00:03:47] Generally, you're probably going to leave with medications or pain relief or did you think in the schedule you an appointment with a surgeon, you know, it's going to be that kind of experience right? And if you know what to do in this situation, it's not [00:04:00] that big of a deal. I went into a hundred percent action mode like what you're saying people listen to all this information.

[00:04:04] What's the good of it? If you're not actually utilizing. When the opportunity comes up, my friend Tom is included does all this alternative therapy for cancer and I always say that if you ever get cancer and I hope no one gets cancer. But if you ever do you want to know exactly what to do immediately at least go get a console with someone that seems trustworthy get different opinions rather than freak out because you're going to be you're going to be told a very scary story line of if you don't get this you're gonna die in this amount of time and of course you're gonna freak out but if you know what to do in that situation at least you have.

[00:04:36] Idea of who you should go to for advice. It's not going to be as daunting. So interesting PRP is all the rage because basically what it does is it takes platelets which are responsible for healing right and and it's super concentrates them and then you inject them. Into the area. Now, those are platelets would have had activity in your body and healing but it would have taken a long time [00:05:00] the accumulation and plus the platelets are are all over your body and trying to mobilize them into one spot.

[00:05:06] It's easier to just reject them. So. Everyone agrees that platelet-rich plasma is the thing to do for so many different injuries. We just did a show on erectile dysfunction there actually injecting PRP into men's penises and correcting the Corpus the vasculature the the Corpus. It's not the corpus callosum that's in your brain.

[00:05:29] But anyway, Cavernosa the Corpus cavernosa and it's and it guys are having erections again that they couldn't have before so so PRP works, but now interestingly enough 20 years ago. Dr. Robert Gordon a UCLA trained physician since you talked about cancer. Yeah started to cure. Pancreatic cancer by doing the same thing with dendrites he would he would extract dendrites he would spin them concentrate him and then inject them directly into the tumors and the tumors would go away [00:06:00] and the FDA shut him down and he now trait now he lives in Germany and he runs the gorter model Cancer Institute in Cologne Germany, but it's the same premise.

[00:06:14] It's a super concentrating the dendrites and shooting him into a tumor. But you can't get that therapy here in the United States. It's not a lie. It's not legal but it cures cancer. Yeah cures cancer. Well, there's big money that's being made in cancer. Unfortunately oncology is huge. So I'll one hands I'm obviously not anti capitalism but one of the negatives of a pure capitalism strategy is that it's about profit.

[00:06:37] So if something comes in that's going to take away profit from Big Money institutions, right? They're gonna they're gonna try to squash that or make it very difficult for you to access it or try to disqualify. In some way, right? So you have always been on the the tip of the Spear of a lot of different things over your career and recently you've been talking more and more about something that probably [00:07:00] is under everybody's nose, but they don't think about it.

[00:07:01] That's adrenaline dominance. Talk about it. Right? Why why did the gentleman dominance get into your your windshield all of a sudden? And what do you where did you where did this process come from? What you started to examine it? Yeah. I mean I read this great book called mastering. Many years ago by Byron Richards and he talked about master control of hormones such as insulin and leptin and that really gave me the information on the importance of leptin and Insulin.

[00:07:26] I already knew was very important but left and I just didn't I mean I knew about it, but I wasn't I didn't realize the full importance of it and then adrenaline was included in that as well because most of us are adrenaline dominance and that's a condition that doctor right brings up and it's similar.

[00:07:43] Into how we describe estrogen dominance where you have way too much estrogen and then for women they don't have enough progesterone to balance it or testosterone as well. And a lot of men have high estrogen levels very low testosterone or they have okay testosterone levels, but very high estrogen.

[00:07:59] So they're still [00:08:00] estrogen dominant, right and estrogen dominance has become so prolific that every day when I'm one of the favorite things I like to do in Vegas is just people watching this crap a cup of tea and sit down and I let the Wild event. Unfold but you can you can count or at least I can count probably 25 men that have estrogen dominance visibly.

[00:08:21] Here's looking at him, right? Yeah because it where they stored body fat. You store a lot of body fat in the lower body. So some overweight women that are estrogen dominant and generally if you're overweight your estrogen dominant, you're going to store a lot of body fat in the lower body now men are starting to store a lot of body fat like overweight women are and it's becoming so common.

[00:08:40] It's scary, right? But I don't want to get you sidetracked there were talking about adrenaline. Well know what what what you're talking about is important you're setting the stage to recognize that any hormone any hormone could become dominant if all the other players and and it's kind of like and I think you and I have actually talked about this on the air years ago, you [00:09:00] know hormones are like an orchestra and if all of a sudden the tube is start playing louder than everybody else.

[00:09:06] It's not music anymore. It's like pandals to bizarre so loud. This is what happens with hormones. Body, and it could be any hormone that that's absolutely correct and you can actually have a situation where let's say you're on trt. And then you're taking some kind of AI some aromatase inhibitor to block conversion of testosterone to estrogen those drugs are extremely potent.

[00:09:25] You do lower estrogen too much and if your husband travels or too low, you're going to have you're going to have this feeling of a week penis week erections. No sex drive. Terrible mood, even though your testosterone levels could be 900 or so if your estrogen is say that's a 5 or 8 when it should be around 20 or 30 asteroids.

[00:09:44] Estradiol is one of the markers you're going to you're just you're just going to feel terrible. I've actually had people that take my estrogen. I hate to call it a estrogen blockers more of an estrogen balancing product to EC. I've had people who take too much of that in a lower stress regime too much.

[00:09:58] So I always think smart conservative [00:10:00] with one or two cats. I mean don't even you don't really need to take it unless you've determined that you have estrogen is. He's either through blood work or you could do the mirror test where you're storing body fat, but start with a low dose and work your way up because driving down estrogen too much is going to be is going to feel similar to when your estrogen levels are too high.

[00:10:16] So let's talk about adrenaline for a second and I talked on the show over the years. I've started to refer to the United States as caffeine Nation because we are a nation of with their there are literally you can spit and hit a coffee shop from anywhere. Oh, no on any Street on end, probably two hundred percent and and so people at Downing coffee they wake up in the morning.

[00:10:39] They're drinking, you know that doing 5-hour energy shots. They're drinking a big, you know, 300 milligrams of caffeine coffee to three times a day pushing adrenaline. And cortisol through the roof 24/7 all the time, right is this where the adrenaline dominance is coming from or is there something also going on in [00:11:00] our environment?

[00:11:01] I think it's pretty multifaceted to combination of many things is one. Yes, we're over stimulated because we're sleep-deprived people aren't sleeping. Well and that's related to Too Much adrenaline as well. So if your adrenaline levels are really high at night, it's virtually impossible to relax.

[00:11:14] One thing people don't realize about hormones is that if hormones are programming you to feel a certain way. It's basically impossible to not feel that way. So if you're programmed to be stressed, you're going to feel stressed no matter what kind of meditation you do. What kind of relaxation strategy try to implement if you have really low testosterone and DHT you're not going to have a sex drive.

[00:11:33] You know, like you said this Orchestra has to be in Balance. So when hormones have way more effect and how we think and feel than how we think and feel effects hormones. There's. Cross linkage, but there's definitely more emphasis from One Direction than the other right? So with adrenaline It's a combination of many things one is we're just bombarded with stress.

[00:11:54] Like we've never had in the history of humankind and what I mean by that is we're just stimulated all the time. We're in we're [00:12:00] in traffic people have road rage people are flicking you off people are cutting you off. You're getting mad. They're getting mad right we deal with that all the time and then you go on social media and people are really negative such as.

[00:12:12] I got I eradicated my Twitter account maybe last month just because I just got tired of going on there and just seeing negativity just people shouting at each other. That's what it looked like so I got I don't need this. So I just deleted that now which social media if you follow the right people.

[00:12:25] It's not really stressful. It can be motivating so you can follow people on Facebook like yourself or an Instagram people put up a lot of their workouts and I find that motivating so it doesn't have to be stressful, but I think we're. We're adrenaline starts pumping is when you have this keeping up with the Joneses type mentality of oh, well Carl has 5,000 followers.

[00:12:43] So I need 5,000 followers or Carl's doing this. They're all right. Jim has 300,000 followers. So I need that store starts becoming this competition pride in and that's what that's what people go into over-the-top Behavior. That's when women are posting pics of their backside every day because that's getting them 500 likes what's all this adding up to?

[00:12:59] [00:13:00] So you're you're spending all this energy trying to impress people that you're never going to meet in person. You may not even. These people in person and it has real no no significant benefit on your life. But with let me just get into the background a little bit of adrenaline what it is and why it's so important.

[00:13:17] I'm just going to look at some of my notes here. So adrenaline is a hormone produced by the adrenal glands and is released in response to stress. So it's our fight or flight. All right you get into you're about to get into a fight at a bar. Your adrenaline goes through the. And you either feel like fighting back or running out of there right combination of both right?

[00:13:35] But is that kind of motion now, we get this fight or flight response not just too serious stresses, but to mild stresses. I always say that my mother had a heart attack a while back and she passed. We always hear we always talk about how oh, we lost family to heart disease and so forth. But what was one of the underlying causes for that heart disease and I think while my mom wasn't a wild person adventurous per se she was pumping out [00:14:00] adrenaline all the time.

[00:14:01] She was always stressed. She was always worried about stuff and I think that's one of the primary why I want I want I want her in the first place. I want to I want to throw something into this discussion for a second. So yeah from a genetic predisposition. And from an evolutionary perspective we are designed to seek out the danger in our environment.

[00:14:23] That is that was one of our gifts to be vigilant to know when when there was a an animal in the bushes. And where we could go okay, but in today's environment because we know what's going on in Iran, and we know what's going on in Libya. We're stressing out about stuff that's not in our environment any longer and has and it can't hurt us either but we're being told all the time by the news.

[00:14:47] Oh, this is going to hurt you you better pay attention. So. I'm with you people are so effing stressed today. Like they get in their cars. They listen to talk radio. They're [00:15:00] literally in their head. They're arguing with somebody in the radio. They watch TV. They watching the news they start arguing with people they're stressed out and you know, why stress kills it absolutely kills it destroys the organs in your body.

[00:15:13] It shortens telomeres. It makes you age faster and then when you pour on top of that. A couple good 300 milligram cups of coffee. You're right. You're absolutely right. We are we are in that fight or flight mode 24/7 now and it gives you a heart attack. I didn't show six or seven years ago with a scientist who came on and talked about the overproduction of adrenaline.

[00:15:40] And how it leads to heart failure because the heart becomes desensitized to the adrenaline it. You went to a Kiss concert like I used to go and you set up close you set up close to the stage. When you got out. You couldn't hear anything people would talk about you. I can't hear you because your sensitivity to hearing [00:16:00] change from well your heart when it's constantly being told or we're being chased by tigers.

[00:16:05] It finally goes effort man. I'm not repenting and then it literally you are more prone to heart failure as a result of that. Right, right and adrenaline what you are for into adrenaline resistance. That's basically what leads to it. Well indominus just like insulin resistance does leptin resistance Etc.

[00:16:22] I mean adrenaline is also often referred to as epinephrine because it's a neurotransmitter as well as one of the primary neurotransmitters that helps with being driven and focused. So, I mean adrenaline used at the right time can be very effective especially for physical performance goals. So for example, I like to do a lot of heavy weight training deadlifts squats Etc.

[00:16:42] Now, I love aggressive music, but I don't like to listen to it on the drive over because I. Start ramping up all this adrenaline on the drive over that's not useful. I don't even like to listen to intense music on the warm-up sets. I listen to rock music motivating music, but once I get to those heavy sets that's when I go to [00:17:00] hardcore or heavy metal right or death metal because he gets me amped up right and then once I finish that tops that I go back to positive music but not as intense and because I don't that adrenaline pumping all the time and in fact that you would you notice that and I okay so you and I probably have.

[00:17:18] Can someone do this? Somebody gets all revved up and psyched? Yeah to deadlift. Yeah, right and they pulled the weight or they miss either one and they put the weight down and they turn around and they pass out that it only cost when adrenaline Peaks and it drops you get washed out your blood pressure drops everything.

[00:17:40] So people will say to them say to me. You know, I don't know why I feel so tired and washed out right now. We'll probably because the adrenaline is finally come back down where it belongs. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And when you're doing a really heavy set like say for example, if I'm going to deadlift 600 pounds, I want that bar to move from point A to point B quickly.

[00:17:58] I don't want to get stuck in a point because [00:18:00] that's where the danger of passing out and so forth happens, right you hit that sticking point above the knees. You start contorting your body and now you're trying to jerk it. I don't know what people are doing in that situation. Just put the part down.

[00:18:11] Well, I never go for a hundred percent maximum effort I go for maybe 95 percent or 90 percent because to me that's close enough. And as long as that number is better than what the previous number was. I'm making progress without wearing and tearing on my body so much because I'm not competing in powerlifting.

[00:18:29] I just do this for fun, but I wanted to look good and I wanted to go from point A to point B quickly because like you said the last thing I want to do is holding my breath and have high adrenaline levels under stress for. Seconds that could be enough to pass out. You can really hurt yourself you pass out.

[00:18:45] You can hit the wall behind you guys have a face plant. I've seen guys face plant right into the ground. I mean really hurt themselves. Yeah. Yeah, you can watch these clips on YouTube these these CrossFit fails or deadlift fails and you see a lot of that a lot of times. It's not even that [00:19:00] heavy someone doing three plates, but it's heavy for them, of course, but there but the the technique is not there and it's too much too soon.

[00:19:07] One of the if I could tell my younger self anything about weight training. Be like be patient. Yeah, it's going to come around just stick around. You don't have to hit that PR this week or next week or next month. Just put in the work put in the work and be patient and now after enjoy the judges enjoyed.

[00:19:23] Yeah. I have a goal of working up to 700 pounds in the deadlift by the time I'm 50, I could do probably 605 right now. 585 is the most I've ever done but I'm confident I could do 605 if I went into the gym today, but I'm giving myself five years to hit that goal. I'm not trying to hit it this year or next year.

[00:19:39] Right it take my time get 15 20 pounds a year for the next five years and like you said I enjoy working out. I'm not someone who goes. Oh, I hate working out but I like the results. I'll just deal with the process because you're not going to sustain that. You know that that someone trying to use adrenaline to in and you can't pump out adrenaline forever.

[00:19:56] So if you have to get into this adrenaline state to do something all the [00:20:00] time, it's going to be I mean that only works on an episode of 24 with Jack Bauer right in 24 hours. Yeah 24 hours. Performing at a high level no one's eating anything and 24 hours later. You're still working at this Jack is in prison for two years in China.

[00:20:15] He comes back and he's ready to go into action. Yeah, right. It's just doesn't work like that in the real world. I mean adrenaline release for short periods of time is not a big deal and we can actually if you have adrenaline sensitivity and you produce a small amount of adrenaline, but you utilize it well just like someone who has really good insulin sensitivity and leptin sensitivity as well.

[00:20:37] What happens is you'll actually. Pull energy from stubborn fat areas the stomach the hips and so forth. Now you're going to lose fat in areas that are very difficult to lose fat. Right but but most people that's not their profile. Their profile is the opposite is that adrenaline's is being ramped up all the time.

[00:20:54] So your your body your brain is thinking okay. We're under this constant combined [00:21:00] bombardment of stress. So what we need to do is every time we eat we're going to put energy in those stubborn fat area. So that we can utilize the later. Yeah, because this guy is this guy is obviously gonna die soon.

[00:21:10] So we have to we have four kids. Well, I know and he's and so those of you who are doubting what Mike is saying about adrenaline defect on fat when you turn it on and off appropriately versus when it's on all the time. Those of you who know anything about beta-adrenergic activist site like clenbuterol, you know that computer only works for about 6 to 10 weeks and then it stops working and why because the fat cells go no, man.

[00:21:38] This guy is always asking for us for our family. We're not doing it anymore. So it's the same it's the same exact effect. Well those of us who use daffron can relate to that as well. Yes happened everyone loved efforts and when I was out because it would shut off your appetite and what have you all amped up.

[00:21:53] So you're going the whole day without eating easily and you're amped up. You can't sit still right, but you're pumping out [00:22:00] adrenaline old day. So you're just eating away at tissue where the worst things you can do. Like, I like intermittent fasting and I know it works very well for some people but it's not a good fit for everyone if you have adrenaline dominance, it's not a good fit for you.

[00:22:11] The last thing you want to do is go the entire day without eating because that's just making your body pump out as much adrenaline as possible to get you through the day. So now you're in this adrenaline wave you're going on man. I'm not hungry at all. I'm alive more energy than ever. Now. You have the illusion of energy, right?

[00:22:28] You're pumping out also adrenaline and most of these people are also drinking a lot of coffee. Yeah, because for whatever reason that's okay. I actually I did intermittent fasting for a couple years, but now I'm off of it. I have I get up in the morning. I have breakfast, you know, you had a cycle on and off this sort of stuff.

[00:22:44] It has to be basic good. So, okay. So let's let's let's talk about okay, I would say. 90% of people watching us right now or watching this later when the podcast is out. They suffer from some form of adrenaline [00:23:00] dominance in today's environment. What should they be doing differently? Well, I only I'm a big believer people always talk about Stress Management.

[00:23:08] I'm a big believer in stress eradication, but let's talk about the diet first get a good balance of protein low glycemic carbohydrates essential fatty acids good fats coconut oil olive oil. Get these in several times a day such as don't go more than 4 hours without having some meal. Now. I like longer stretches between meals for someone that has adrenaline sensitivity and insulin sensitivity and so forth because you're going to go to stored body fat for energy more but when you have adrenaline dominance the last thing you want to do you want to basically cut off.

[00:23:38] Any opportunity for adrenaline to ramp up throughout the day and if you're eating regularly now, you're getting energy from that. There's no reason to have a pronounced adrenaline effect. So don't skip meals and get a good balance of protein fat carbohydrates. They make carbohydrates at every single meal.

[00:23:54] Don't go more than four hours. You don't have to eat every two hours. You don't have to eat seven times a day, but I would say three to four [00:24:00] meals a day. Definitely no less than three and you're going to find that you're going to be much calmer as a result of that. You're going to be more energetic, but you're also going to be.

[00:24:08] Because you're not pumping out visit rental in all the time because I mean high levels of adrenaline also have a negative effect on testosterone levels because the lowers luteinizing hormone. So luteinizing hormones a signal that your brain sends out to the testes to ramp up testosterone production.

[00:24:22] And if you have if you have prolonged adrenaline levels, you're going to curtail that whole process and then sometimes people mistake the feeling of adrenaline for testosterone where they're going. They have anger issues. They have road rage. We were like, oh that guy has to much testosterone is like nah, that's too much.

[00:24:37] Rental it right way too much. Adrenaline. Testosterone is actually common when you have high testosterone levels, you're more confident. You're more focused. I find a more compassionate with my testosterone levels are good. You kind of get that hero complex. You want to make sure our people around you are protected, you know, you feel that way, right?

[00:24:53] So I think there's so many benefits of testosterone for men and women and the last thing you want to do is just ramped up adrenaline all day and you [00:25:00] just lose that whole benefit and then what happens also is that. Adrenaline increases sugar in the blood and sends the energy rich blood to the muscles so they can work harder and get us out of danger.

[00:25:10] So that's good. But the what happens is if you're eating Leslie a high sugar mill, this is why you want to avoid it insulin goes through the roof clears all the blood sugar out of your blood stream. So now you have this crash. So what has to come what has to kick into gear to get your blood sugar levels back up adrenaline cortisol because they're going to react glucagon and glad you didn't go to be released from the liver exactly exactly and it.

[00:25:33] Nolan is pro-inflammatory cortisol is actually anti-inflammatory. So one of the reasons why cortisol comes up is to quell all the inflammation that adrenaline just produced so cortisol is actually essential for life, you know, if you don't produce cortisol you die. There's a there's a lot of hormones if you don't produce it you don't die, but there's a few that if you don't produce you die insulin, for example, if I'm don't produce it you have to take it exogenous Lee you can't just cope without it cortisol is another one.

[00:26:00] [00:26:00] Okay, so that's the issue. That's why. Want to avoid high sugar Mills and that kind of goes back to what you were talking about because no one just drinks coffee black. They have a lot of sugar and it's a desert right you go to Starbucks. First of all, I always find it amusing that at Starbucks.

[00:26:14] There's a long line in the Drive-Thru because people are too lazy to even get out of the car to get there and there's no one inside the place. So if you parked your car you could get in there get your coffee faster and faster than but but but then you would miss out on an opportunity to look at your Instagram for 20 minutes like.

[00:26:32] Give that so that that always cracks me up is you're trying to get this adrenaline rush, but your energy is so low, you can't even get out of your car. Right? So, you know, what about so what about supplement obviously meditation is a good thing for this population today. That's hyper adrenaline ated.

[00:26:48] But what about supplements? I know that you're a fan of a couple supplements that seemed to and and when should you take them should you take them at night when adrenaline is supposed like, how do you really think? The whole adrenal [00:27:00] what's the word? I'm looking for the diurnal effect of the adrenal glands.

[00:27:05] How do you re sing it right? Well, since most people are producing too much adrenaline. If someone has its renal fatigue, for example, they've produced so much adrenaline that now they're not making cortisol anymore. So their cortisol in the morning is really low and that's why they wake up they're really tired and then finally that cortisol kicks in at night and now they're energetic.

[00:27:22] They can't go to sleep. They're stuck in this Vicious Circle for someone like that. Strolls poliquin always talked about Licorice and metagenic makes a really good one. You just take one tablet in the morning and afternoon, but that's a small percentage of people out there. Most people are in the opposite.

[00:27:36] They're producing way too much cortisol and adrenaline. So the last thing you want to take is licorice, which is just going to wrap that up. What you want is the opposite stuff that's going to help you relax and one that I found works really well, and I also learned about this from Charles poliquin as well.

[00:27:51] As Jerry brain. Mm is theanine and for those of you that enjoy coffee, but you get the Jitters with. So it makes you think twice about having it if you take [00:28:00] 500 milligrams of feigning with the coffee and you don't have to mix it in there. You can just take a cab or you can take a little bit of powder.

[00:28:05] I put it in my protein shake act. I'm drinking a shake your I just put Feeny powder in it. So 500 milligrams to 2 grams. You can go pretty high dosage on it. It's a really interesting compound because it makes you more relaxed but also makes you more focused so you're focused and relaxed and that's a really good thing.

[00:28:21] You want to talk about improving performance. We're talking about all the theatrics with deadlift. When is that ever actually worked right up in there screaming? The bar hasn't even moved yet and they're screaming now Mark. Philippi always told me the scream works, but you got to time it at the right.

[00:28:37] Yes. Yeah, and the right moment is not when the bar is still on the grounds. So you got to rip that. He taught me this dip and drive where you use a pronounced leg drive. It's really cool and it took me a long time to get it right somewhere to what Olympic lifters do but if you time it right you drop your hips and then you rip that bar off the ground as if you're doing a bent over row.

[00:28:56] The bar pops and it gets to about just below the knees and then you [00:29:00] can finish it off with your put your chain. Now the screen is useful when you hit that sticking point. So when I hit a PR last year the bar felt pretty good off the floor and then it started slowing down. Just above the knees in that scared me because I didn't want to get stuck rice win.

[00:29:18] So at then I screw it out. Thank you instinctively scream. Yeah, exactly scream it out. And at the very end, you did kind of a victory at least I did a victory scream. I felt like I was on an episode of Spartacus because you're so amped up you pull it off. It's fun. It is the Fun's fun things that go with lifting heavy weights and breaking through barriers.

[00:29:35] So that's an example of using adrenaline at the right time. But if I take feigning and a pre-workout I take I like to take my testosterone. Hour before I train because it has mucuna pruriens in it that increases dopamine dopamine good stuff because it's a nice mood elevator as well as you just feel good and even a little bit of thinning I'll either put it in my workout water or I'll just take it right before because again, I like being relaxed but focused and then when the time [00:30:00] is right.

[00:30:00] You wrap everything up and you can carry you can all these lessons we learn in the gym. You can take that to other areas also to the boardroom. You can take you to the boardroom. Yeah, don't get stressed out about stupid stuff. That's one thing someone cuts you off in traffic who cares? Yeah, you're gonna like this what you gonna do you gonna chase this guy down and potentially get shot right specially here in Las Vegas.

[00:30:18] Everybody's packing. Yeah. The last thing you want to do is create a confrontational situation over nothing, right? So just let these things go your on social media and you're like, oh it's so negative then why you want it? Get off of it. You're not already on it. Right or follow people that are not negative.

[00:30:34] Take some more Theory and you'll naturally Steno. It's funny. You mentioned metagenic but metagenic makes a calm bar and it takes like a it tastes like a Mounds. It's coconut and dark chocolate and it's got 300 milligrams of l-theanine in the bar. Oh nice and they called icons my snack. Yeah.

[00:30:52] Yeah. I mean you can have that before you tried but I'm a mime. I agree with you. I am always the strongest. When I'm not high. [00:31:00] Amped right, but when I'm caught so there's a difference between being hyper amped and super confident now and the calmness brings the super confidence, but the rattled like oh man, I'm going to do something.

[00:31:13] I'm not sure I can do that's the high parameter. That's up there. That's right. And I never I could never pull anything off when I'm hyper amp that all me neither when I have those days where I wake up and I can't wait to get to the gym. I was like man, I'm gonna go in there and destroy drive over your all amped up like can't wait to get in there.

[00:31:29] Start going through your warm up sets and everything feels heavy. Like wait a minute what the way I was feeling I was expecting to come in here. And yeah because you're after you're already washed out by then. The adrenaline is already gone. Like we did our job. We're done exactly you wasted all that adrenaline on the drive over now.

[00:31:44] You have nothing left. So your spit sometimes I find that my best workouts or when I have a cold. I'm fighting a cold because I don't recommend going to the gym and you have a cold do it at home. You'll want to get other people sick, but sometimes when I have a cold it makes you focus on the task at hand.

[00:31:57] You can't waste any energy. Can't [00:32:00] waste any energy on stupid stuff and sometimes my best lifts are when I have that because I have to focus now on the task at hand. I'm not get distracted and I would say that more people should meditate and I that's all I'm going to say about that. We've done shows on meditation so easy to do once or twice a day and it'll change your life.

[00:32:17] It really will change a hundred percent is I'm like being in will help at that and I like to haul a sink meditation program. That's these binaural beats. You just put headphones on and it takes through a program. I like to do that every night actually about. An hour before I go to sleep because just like you need pre-workout rituals.

[00:32:33] You need pre sex rituals. You need Priestly pretzels rituals as well. And what amount of us do you we're on our computer all night or were watching TV are both were on the computer and we're watching TV, right and it's 2:00 in the morning and then we go, I guess I should go to sleep. Now. You just shut everything off.

[00:32:47] Yeah and your body goes I'm not ready to go to sleep. Yeah, that weird rental in is still pumping and you need to do is an intermediary step. Where you go. I would say turn off the TV and turn off the computer at least two hours before you go to bed. [00:33:00] Three is the or or put on Blue blocking glasses.

[00:33:02] I put I want I want if I want to be asleep at 9, which is my normal bedtime. Mine. Annalise is abnormal bedtime is 9 p.m. And we put on our blue blockers between seven and eight o'clock and I'm yawning or by nine o'clock and I'm ready to sleep. Yeah, the Blue Block and glasses are cool and they actually help produce more of your own natural melatonin action because all these lights block out natural melatonin.

[00:33:25] Action parent so you find that when you put them on you do start getting relaxed you start yawning. You may even fall asleep in front of the TV and go. Okay. I'm ready to go now. Yeah hot shower before you go to sleep another one or whatever. It is. Sometimes I like to if you live in a state I wouldn't necessarily recommend this if you don't live in a safe area, but I like to walk my dogs around the block sometimes right before I go to bed.

[00:33:43] Not a super long watches clear my head. Yeah because walk Walking for me is meditation. I've never had a lot of success sitting in the Lotus position or sitting on the couch and I do the holistic program. But I find that walking has had such a profound effect on my well-being and I do about three miles with the dogs.

[00:33:59] We live in a [00:34:00] nice neighborhood here Seven Hills in in Henderson. So it's a nice walk. And then you just work out all these anxieties to I know and every and that's and this is why I like to walk by myself. Yeah, I don't like to walk with somebody else because I don't want to talk. I want to thank well exactly and then it's like I do my best thinking when yes, I'm listening idea I've ever had was from a walk.

[00:34:22] That's I agree a hundred percent. We're gonna take a quick commercial break when we come back. We're going to talk about something else that you've been a strong advocate for a long time men being men. We're going to talk about masculinity when we come out Mike plug your website real quick. Yeah.

[00:34:37] Sure. My website is Mike Mahler.com. Mah. Ellie are yep, and you can also get their aggressive strength dot-coms if that's a little bit easy to remember. I can't find my aggressive strength shirt. I used to wear it so proudly I let had a kettlebell on the front of it. It said aggressive strength in red.

[00:34:52] And I know I would see people look at that shirt and they think man, what's that about? You know, like it wasn't what I was in London this guy in the elevator [00:35:00] one time said, oh look at this guy's I had a hoodie on and it had live life aggressively in the back and he's like, oh look at this guy live life aggressively and I just turned to him and I said, yeah, but be polite about it, since they haven't wow.

[00:35:09] Yeah, that's it. That's it. I let's take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back with more of my Kamala stay tuned.

[00:35:19] Welcome back.

[00:35:22] There have been a few people that have been. Vocal advocates for men like Mike Mahler Unapologetic about being a man. How dare you how dare you how dare you not apologize for being a man and this didn't s environment today you have even say that they like see that's what toxic masculinity is all about is if I'm supposed to take on the burden of every man who's ever acted inappropriately.

[00:35:48] I've done anything bad I go look there's evil in the world, but. To Human Condition is not just relegated to men and is not necessarily because you're a man, you know, [00:36:00] so it's if you're a violent person is not because you're a man or woman. You're just not a good person. You have negative qualities.

[00:36:07] So I did this whole attack on masculinity is. It's all warranted but it's also misdirected because the biggest alpha male type characters I've ever met. I'm talking about Special Forces Thai people and right I have I have friends like Ty Ritter and his team who go rescue kids from human traffickers and they do it guns blazing if necessary in South America, which usually it is necessary.

[00:36:28] So these guys are putting their lives on the line the rescue kids. Now these kind of people when you talk to them are the nicest guys you'll ever talk to their now bullies at all the very considerate. Around them. They don't speak inappropriately to women. No, they don't touch women inappropriately.

[00:36:43] And these are guys who are about as masculine as you can get so if too much masculinity is toxic then how do you explain guys like that who epitomize what masculinity is to me? And there was a embody all these great qualities that come with being a man [00:37:00] not that women can't be brave as well. Of course they can.

[00:37:02] I'm just talking to men because we see a lot of positive. We see a lot of positive narratives for boosting up women, like for example, I was speaking at a school in Santa Monica years ago his 2003. I just gave a lecture on my business and stuff like that how I got into it. But anyway one of the teachers and I forget exactly the context of why she even said this but she said that all we all know that girls are way smarter than boys.

[00:37:29] And then haha now imagine if someone said. At we all know that boys are way stronger like you fired he would bet he wouldn't have made it out of he wouldn't have made it through the rest of the day, but somehow this whole notion of I'm a victim or I'm going to take a victim mentality. So whoever I attack they can't they're not allowed to defend themselves.

[00:37:50] They just have to put up with it right now. I'm a victim and their an oppressor even though me as an individual. I've never oppressed a woman or anyone else in the ways that we [00:38:00] hear about righty and so forth. So why do I have to take on the burden of those like? Oh we met need to call out other men.

[00:38:05] It's like we should call out anyone who's being a jerk. Right? Yeah, and and the whole notion of oh believe all women. That's a false one too, because women are just as capable as lot of lying as men are supposed to read so you're right people need to be taken on face value. We want to segregate and create tribes.

[00:38:26] Oh this tribe has this attribute that Tara and know people are both. Great and horrible and you're going to find great people at horrible of different Sexes and it's and I you know nine years ago. I was going to start doing a podcast called open season on men and I just put it I put it on the side burners because I just had way too much going on, but I'm actually going to do it now.

[00:38:52] In fact, I have already invited some of my first guests on we're going to attack real issues, you know. Women have did an done [00:39:00] an unbelievable job at lifting their opinions up into meaningful context where it actually is affecting policy and so on and someone once said to me when women go through a divorce.

[00:39:14] They get together with their girlfriends and they plan and they go well you when men go through a divorce they get together with their friends and they bitch but they don't plan they don't they and that's why when you look at divorces by and large and I know I'm going to piss off some women right now when I say this, but when you look at divorces by and large men get run over by buses and divorces today, I mean, yeah, the Center for Women and families doesn't include men the Center for Women and Children doesn't include men when you look at public policy.

[00:39:43] Relates to divorce the man is a terrorist and a divorce. He's right. Oh, he's gonna lie about the money. He's God. He's gonna lie about this and so men we are we are the endangered a group of and I don't care what color you could be yellow black. You could [00:40:00] be Latin not okay what you are Iranian, if you're a guy you're automatically two steps to the to the wrong side no matter what you do.

[00:40:08] Yeah, and if you're trying to improve yourself as a guy that's seen as negative 2 is like oh, why do you need to go to the gym and lift heavy weights? You think you're better than other people you think you you just can bully people easier like oh, why do you need to make more money? What makes you special?

[00:40:20] He does like that kind of opinion. So anytime you're trying to better yourself. It's like oh, why do you need to do that? Like well, I don't need to explain why I need to do anything. These are things I want to do not good for me and they're not harming other people say why do I even need to qualify and being strong does it mean that you're going to attack people like you pointed out I mean strong guys are comfortable in themselves.

[00:40:40] They don't have to put out that Vibe. I've always found that the most insecure wimpy guys are the ones that are looking to get in everybody's face and prove that they're not wimps. That's a hundred percent, correct. Well, look when something goes down you want strong men and women around, you know, if there's if a brawl happens in a bar, you want [00:41:00] strongman intervening in and squashing that strong men and women tell about you.

[00:41:03] It doesn't just have to be men. But you want strong people around there was a guy I tried to get on the show. I can't think of his name right now, and I apologize but he lives in Minnesota and he's a power lifter. So I guarantee you have experienced this exact thing people. I know friends of mine.

[00:41:22] At a not into physical culture will see pictures of me dead lifting or see pictures of me leg pressing or squatting and say man, if a car of a falls on me, I want you around they always say that right you've heard that right? Okay. Well it actually happened in Minnesota an SUV flip. And landed on a guy and four or five regular people were trying to lift the SUV up enough to pull the guy out and they couldn't and this powerlifter who happened to be there.

[00:41:51] He was like, oh, I think I can move that he got down and he basically deadlifted this one side of the car and they were able to pull the guy out. He was even on Fox [00:42:00] News. He made it on some new station. And so here's a guy who saved somebody's life because of that selfish habit of going into the gym and training.

[00:42:08] Yeah. Yeah, it's like being a superhero when you're really strong. That's that's that's something like right out of a movie. This guy has Superhero level of strength and he was able to save someone's life as a result of having it right time. What if this guy never worked out? He just happened to be there and he be one of the other five guys that couldn't do anything, right?

[00:42:25] Yeah. I don't want to pull it too hard. I hurt my back. It's like they don't know that they can do it, you know. Yeah. Yeah that that's that's a hundred percent, correct. So I think that and then also with we're going the whole me to movements now my take on that is I believe most of the women that are coming for telling the truth, but there's always going to be a few that aren't just because they want to be part of the club or they have some other agenda now just saying that will get you a tack.

[00:42:50] Yes. I'm not saying all or even most I'm just saying a few of them are probably lying and I'm not saying they're lying because they're women it's just human nature, right? But what time [00:43:00] look at this guy just a small Eddie. Did he he. Allegedly lied about getting attacked and now he's being a prosecuted for that.

[00:43:06] Right? So I mean so it's this whole notion of oh, no one would ever lie about that was like, yeah. Well, I wish that were true. Now you situations where I was reading an article in the Wall Street Journal years ago where a guy was saying he loves working with kids, but it's too dangerous because now kids are smart and say hey if you don't let me do this I'm going to say you touched me.

[00:43:24] Yeah. Now I'm not saying most kids do this, but I'm saying a few probably do because they're clever and they're going okay. I can use this as a way to get Leverage. It's now you have this situation where some of these adults are go. Okay, we're never going to be alone. One of us with the kid. It always has to be one other adults rude listen about two weeks ago.

[00:43:42] I was coming down the road and it was a car on the side of the road and I saw a woman standing there and I rolled down my window I said is everything. Okay? And she said yeah, she goes I made a call. I'm waiting for you know, the AAA or whatever and as okay good you're covered and I drove away and I thought to [00:44:00] myself imagine if.

[00:44:02] It said, can you give me a ride to the gas station? Yeah, I would have to think to myself. Why shouldn't I should be able to say yeah jump in I'll take it again. I would have to think to myself. Wait a minute. She's in the car with me by herself. Yeah. What if she says I tried to do something to her right and that I mean, it's like why do I have to think about that?

[00:44:22] Because now there's all these allegations. So you're more prone to say to somebody I'm not even going to ask. I'm going to keep on driving. Now that's so true. And but I mean fortunately in most cases this is not as prolific and what I mean by that is look if I open up a if I open a door for a woman who's behind me she's not going to I've never had a woman get mad about that.

[00:44:45] They always say hey, thank you and I do it for anyone who's behind me not just women if there's a guy behind me open up the door to just play right? But I think being chivalrous is also a good quality as well. As you want to be that polite person to everyone around you now, if you tell a woman hey, you look great today.

[00:45:00] [00:45:00] The majority are not going to. Hey, that's inappropriate. Because that's all you said. Hey, you look nice today are like what you have on today or whatever. It is. Right very few. Women are going to say hey, that's that's inappropriate because there's this one comedian. I forget his name now get a funny joke.

[00:45:13] He said that the DL Hughley he goes. Yeah, you know when you compliment a woman you have to apologize right away. He's like, oh you look great. I mean if that's okay and I and I think that takes a lot of the fun away from just interactions that are completely innocent. There's no hidden agenda anything your.

[00:45:31] The polite person and you're joking around with someone. It's no big thing. But you have to be very careful as well because a lot of things can be misconstrued and then some people are just forget about being a victim now being a victim is fashionable. So, okay. I want to be oppressed when I was in college.

[00:45:47] I'll tell you an interesting story. I went to the College of Wooster and Ohio and. Liberal arts college campus is basically Bizarro land because the most powerful person in a liberal arts campus is a African-American [00:46:00] female. She can get away with anything. She's ever going to get kicked out. I had a friend a white guy who was in a theater class and one of the girls came out or ladies came out and she had this this kind of Afro type hair style and he made a joke saying hey, you look like buckwheat from The Little Rascals, and she.

[00:46:16] She thought that was racist. This guy was not racist and wasn't mean-spirited. It was just a joke. She actually complained to the administration and this guy got kicked out first semester real or that there were three guys African-American gentleman who were part of a sting. They were just stealing stuff out of dorms.

[00:46:31] These are students and they got caught. In the school was going to prosecute them and then they said if you try to prosecute us, we're going to go to the local newspapers and save this as racially motivated in the school decided they didn't want to do all that hassle. Just let these guys graduate.

[00:46:45] So that's what happened. Now all of these people are in for a rude awakening when they get into the real world, right? But in the in this microcosmic world, a lot of the rules are flipped, so it got to the point we even had this class where it's saying look if. If you're having sex with a [00:47:00] girl you need to check every five seconds make sure everything's okay.

[00:47:02] It's like oh is this? Okay. This is terrible. I know I feel I feel sorry my son in this day and age. It's just excuse me. Take your time. You know, I lived in Vegas in the 80s like not only didn't we ask is this still? Okay, like once we get out on the way, but I mean it was we used to call it sport effing because like all three of my friends.

[00:47:27] Out there be conventions in town girls and town you take them out you dance for a while and you know and you hook up and it's like the young kids say hook up and but now you got to be like wow after the fact what if she says, you know, I really felt bad about what we did and I think I'm going to report you that you raped.

[00:47:46] Hundred percent that that that's also something they said on this college campus if she can sense the night of but the next day she decides that remorse didn't really want to do it. She can actually report you do so, I just forget it. I was gonna hook up with [00:48:00] girls not want to bore you. Okay? I wouldn't want to be a young man today.

[00:48:02] I really wouldn't I it's not enough to qualify. This know most women are not going to take advantage of that but it only takes one to ruin your life ruin your life. If you know, you know, you know, it's really funny. I had errands cinnamon on the show the other day. And a because redcon one is the like the title sponsor of the Arnold this year and I'll actually be there Saturday all day Saturday this coming weekend.

[00:48:26] I'll be at the redcon one booth which is Booth 1 through 6, as soon as you walk into the exhibit hall. Just go to the right when it's right there. And so we did a show about fatherhood. You know, he's an amazing dad and Darielle is an amazing mom and they're raising children that are. Really fantastic little guys.

[00:48:49] And Aaron said something really important, you know, his boys play with guns and and he's not he doesn't spank them but he [00:49:00] teaches them that there are penalties for their actions, right and he teaches them that that if you want something you have to earn it and he said during the interview he goes, you know, I'm raising men.

[00:49:12] And I thought about that after the interview. I thought you know that there were people that would get offended by him saying that like he's he says you gotta remember Carl. I'm raising men like in other words. I'm raising boys that are going to be men someday. I need to teach them those life lessons.

[00:49:26] So when they are men they know how to be men, but he's not talking about. Bun, you know wearing you know, skinny jeans wearing guys. It's not about real men men men who are masculine and and and and embody what manhood is and today that's not popular. Yeah. No, it's not and then there's also a double standard up and some people are going to laugh at this but I've been in situations in Las Vegas where drunk women have touched me extremely inappropriately.

[00:49:54] And if I did that to any woman, I'd be arrested but I've had security right in front of me when it happens and they're laughing the [00:50:00] like. Oh, yeah, it looks like you're having a good time. I was like no, I don't want that attention. But if you even say that it's like well, what's your problem?

[00:50:06] It's a reminds me of that scene in that movie with Demi Moore Michael Douglas disclosure. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Demi Moore is trying to give Michael Douglas. He's trying to she's trying to give him oral sex and he's trying to push her away. Everybody's laughing in the theater right like come on, but this is a guy who's married.

[00:50:23] He doesn't want to cheat on his wife, right? He's sitting there going. Yeah, she's attractive and part of me wants to do this, but I'm trying to stop it. Imagine a reverse that situation where it's a man trying to force himself on a woman in some content or you may as well just just just yeah go give yourself up and go to jail.

[00:50:39] Right? Right. So it's theirs and it also it also seems like there's an underlying current of masculinity is bad. So we need to make men more like women. Yes that is it there, sir. Let's get their estrogen levels off that get their testosterone levels. Let's get them. Let's get them [00:51:00] talking. No, they should talk about their problems more like look.

[00:51:02] Yeah those some of those things are correct, but there's also things that we have naturally as men that when we utilize that's why we're able to harness qualities to be very successful, right? So when you try to deny who you are, you're denying qualities that are to your bed of what think about.

[00:51:19] This sofa decades the lbgt segment had to hide who they were and act hetero to keep their jobs. And now they've come out and they're like, oh, you know, we don't have to hide this but now they're saying the men. Oh, you need to hide Who You Are. You can't be a man in this state. Do you need to hide that and it's like wait a minute.

[00:51:41] You remember how it felt when you did that? Why would you want someone some other human beings have to do that? And one other thing I want to mention any man who's ever been in Family Court knows what I'm about to say a woman can lie and then get caught and they'll dismiss your case, but they [00:52:00] won't punish her and I asked the judge one time.

[00:52:04] He passed away a few years ago, but he. High-level judge here in Louisville, Jefferson County and I said, why is it when women raise these these these issues with that and they get guys brought into a court and you know, he struck me Bubba and then you find out it's not true. Why don't you Hold That Woman in contempt of court and file charges against her for lying in court because if a guy did that you'd put him in jail, and he and you know what, he told me.

[00:52:33] He said well, we don't. Discourage women who really have had problems from coming forward if they think and I said to him, but you're not that's like that's like saying let's not lock lock a bank robbers because not all of them are bad. Right? Right. No, it's just absurd and then there's a lot of times people like to quote statistics as well.

[00:52:55] They're going o statistics showed that. Rape women at way higher levels than women [00:53:00] rape men now, that's no doubt true. Yeah, I don't dispute that. But what you have to realize when you're taking those statistics into account is a lot of men are never going to report it. They're going to be embarrassed.

[00:53:10] So if a woman drug a woman can rape a guy she can she can drug him. He's passed out he wakes up tied up and then who knows what happens next is rising men can rape other minute if anyone can be rape right now the thing here though, is that.

[00:53:27] Few men are gonna report this there they're not going to if they were raped by another man. They're going to feel shame if the rape another woman they going to be embarrassed was that they're going to think they're going to go into the police station and they're going to laugh they could borrow.

[00:53:36] How's that even possible? You know that that's usually the response right? So it's the exact opposite though, when a woman says she was raped or assaulted people want to believe that. Very few people are going to be like, oh that didn't happen. I'm not saying that doesn't happen that I've had women tell me that they've had they've brought up stuff to family members and family members or in Craigslist going.

[00:53:55] Oh, I don't think that happened. That's horrible, you know, and that that is terrible. I've had [00:54:00] many female friends that were abused as as kids and then they confide in their parents or someone else and they're hoping their parents going to come. You don't want to hear in the parent. Yeah the like well can't do anything about that now it's like, oh my brother would never do that to you, right which is horrible for someone that's a victim when you're.

[00:54:15] Leaves and you're not defended especially as a kid, but you know, I was sexually abused by a woman when I was 5 years old and when I bring that up to a lot of times I talk to you guys are like, oh, you know a lot of men are any holes. They do this. I was like, yeah, that's true but women can be evil to and that's just a reality and then sometimes they it's as if they never even thought of that like, oh, well, I never thought of that.

[00:54:40] It's so it's just this this notion of. I'm not even sure where I'm going with this but it's just this notion of. that men are capable of doing horrible things, but women aren't and even when women do something horrible as men. We should be happy that they're doing it like eggs. But when that when [00:55:00] that young hot school teacher was caught having sex with one of her students for high I if I heard somebody say.

[00:55:08] Man, none of my teachers did that with me like about a million times. I heard that right like yeah, like you couldn't say the women don't say that like, oh, yeah. She got raped by her teacher man. I wish one of my teachers would have raped me. It's like when guys when guys are oppressed sexually oppressed by women.

[00:55:26] It's looked at like when you complain about your getting again sex. Yeah, even that even when even as a kid people will often joke like oh, what does she look like? It's I will look when I'm five years old. It doesn't really matter what she looks like, you know, you're not a sexual being at that age.

[00:55:40] So anything she does is not going to be pleasurable to your five years old. Now, it's gonna be weird. He's toast. Yeah, it's going to be so stressful that you're going to compartmentalize it in your brain to deal with and at another time which is what happened to me. I didn't deal with what happened until I was probably 30 or so because you can't you don't even know what happened when you're five years old you.

[00:56:00] [00:56:00] In artistically it's kind of blurry too. And you like the way you look the way you compartmentalize it. It's kind of like it's like, how do you keep it Out Of Reach, you know, what's interesting and part of the reason I'm going to do open season on men finally more men are addicted to drugs and alcohol.

[00:56:16] Yeah, more men are in mental institutions more men are incarcerated in jail more men commit suicide successfully. That's an important thing too because your women attempt suicide but they don't die. We're doing it as a crime, but more meant literally kill themselves every year suicidal take a gun.

[00:56:36] Boom. There's no coming back from. So when you look at that when you look at that, you think wow, here's a group of people in our society that are really in pain because look what's happening to them, right and listen to this statistic boys. Cry five times more frequently than girl babies until the boys turn three.

[00:57:00] [00:57:00] Yeah, and why is that did they just shut? No because they're being told Boys Don't Cry when boys cry they're being told no stop it. When girls cry took all come here, honey, so we are taught to suppress our feelings and emotions a hundred percent and we keep them inside because we're men right?

[00:57:19] I'm off a strength, but I'm off of sensitivity with it. And this is one of the reasons I'm going to do open season on men because men need somebody to stick up for them. Finally. Yeah, that's right and then met need other people to confide in whatever you've been through or whatever. Negative thoughts you have or whatever you're stressed about.

[00:57:38] So I'm not saying that some of the things that women do really well is they communicate with other women very well if they have the big tend to Galvanize around each other and support each other men could definitely benefit from doing more of that where you just have it a forum where you can you can be vulnerable and discuss your insecurities, but we all have insecurities.

[00:57:56] I've got plenty of insecurities. Well, the difference is I put mine out there. [00:58:00] I don't I don't try to hide it. So no people don't really have anything. I would like. Oh if people found. This about you I was like, I've already out of the wrote about that in my book or I've discussed it on some platform because I'm not going to hold all that stuff in I see what happens to people when they just try to suppress certain feeling.

[00:58:14] So if you if you have anxiety or depression, I've dealt with depression on and off throughout my life. One of the reasons why I got in the hormone optimization is that nothing had a more profound effect in helping keep my mood steady and positive then dialing in hormones, right? If it wasn't for a learning all this information.

[00:58:30] I don't know where I would be at because Depression was I could when I listen to people like Chester from. In park and not so much Chris Cornell because I didn't hear what his thoughts were on depression so much but Chester had a lot of dark feelings. He was abused as a kid and bullied and he became famous and he thought this would make a difference and it really didn't make a difference.

[00:58:48] So he's like well, like now what do I do? We know I'm this Rockstar people love me thousands of people are clapping for me, but it wasn't enough because he had that hole in his soul. That he never filled and there's a lot of men who feel [00:59:00] that way. So I think a forum like what you're talking about is really important.

[00:59:03] I think I think when men who are strong talk about their insecurities, you're doing a real benefit for other men because they'll go ahead well hell if he can talk about that then I can talk about it too. So I think it's important to put yourself out there and and discuss openly what your insecurities are.

[00:59:17] It's not a thing as positive everyone. We're going to take a break when we come back. I want to talk about doing vegan right? I know you're a conscientious as well. No, no. I've said sure how you feel about that. You're a conscientious vegan, you choose not to eat animals. But as a result of that you recognize that there is a great responsibility and choosing your food properly sure and I think of all the people I know who a vegan you're the one that people could take advice from.

[00:59:47] So we're going to take a quick commercial break. We'll be right back with more stay tuned. Welcome back. I want to put this comment back up. Darcy Clark has been a [01:00:00] an avid follower of the show and he was just commending us for talking about some very important topic and I think that I have a strange feeling that open season on men once I mean, I've got some really good guests lined up already to talk about how alimony is unfairly calculated is actually an error in the calculator or E process that they.

[01:00:20] No one's ever figured fixed it and that affects women to so the breadwinner, but I also the whole issue about depression in men Suicidal Tendencies in men. I want to get to the bottom of this stuff. I'm actually looking for a female co-host. To bring some balance. So it's not this guy's bashing women, right?

[01:00:44] Because I don't want to be seen as the the female Joy Behar that's that's what my that's not my objective. But yeah, I mean, I'm really looking forward to this to this process. So the next thing I want to talk to you about is doing vegan, right? So you are a [01:01:00] conscientious vegan. You don't believe the vegan diet is necessarily better or worse.

[01:01:06] The omnivorous diet but you choose not to harm animals. And this was a gift of from your mom the mean she thought you to be this way, right? Yeah. Yeah exactly. I mean you can be healthy in a variety of diets. You can be unhealthy on a variety of diet so you can be a very unhealthy meat-eater. You can be a very healthy meat eater.

[01:01:22] You can be a very healthy vegan. You can be a very unhealthy vegan. This is how you put things together so it can be a little daunting for someone that grew up with just eating meat like we a standard American diet because generally what happens in that case is people start looking for. Okay, let me replace every meat product.

[01:01:38] I'm consuming now with some kind of fake Meek product. Right and that's that's okay for maybe transitional purposes or when you're eating out but you don't want to overload on processed food because it's still just processed junk largely you want real food because the more real food you eat the less you actually need to eat because you're deriving more [01:02:00] nutrition from the food you're eating.

[01:02:01] So I want the majority of the food. I'm eating to be very high in. It's macronutrients are very important too. But I want if I can choose carbohydrates that are high in micronutrients like fruits and vegetables. That's better than let's say something like a potato which is high in map in carbohydrates.

[01:02:17] So a macronutrient but not so high in micronutrients. So it doesn't mean I don't consume those things. I just want the majority of my diet coming from nuts and seeds legumes fruits and vegetables. And then anything else sometimes kinwa certain things like that? And then I'm also a strong believer in least for myself a good amount of fat in my diet and I don't keep track of percentages anymore.

[01:02:36] I used to be somewhat pedantic about that. But now I just focus on high quality food and a bat and just getting protein fat and carbohydrates at every meal and it doesn't have to be this perfect 30 40 30 balance. You can dial it in with experimentation. But for example for dinner nuts, I'll have legumes like garbanzo beans one of my favorites mix that with some mushrooms and orange bell peppers and [01:03:00] tomatoes and marinara sauce baby Spanish people look at my meals are like, wow, it looks delicious.

[01:03:04] I put a lot of spices on it like garlic. Oregano Etc. So you make this stuff tasty you make it taste good and then cook it in coconut oil so you get some fats because if you're not too low fat diet your skin is not going to look good. You're not going to be fully. It's your brain health is not going to be there and I've always found that if my fat intake is too low.

[01:03:23] It has a real negative effect on my performance in the gym as well. Alright, so you don't have to you don't have to go ketogenic and super high fat but you definitely need good amounts of fats in your diet. So that a lot of vegans Advocate this 80/10/10 approach of 80% carbohydrates 10% that 10% protein.

[01:03:40] I've always found that that's that's way too many carbohydrates. In fact, if you did if you did it on Everest diet that way you wouldn't farewell. Because most of us are glucose metabolism is not that good that we could just process even if it's coming from healthy sources, you can still overdue carbohydrates.

[01:03:58] So I like more of a balance and I've [01:04:00] always found this what works for me and whenever someone says, okay. Well that works for you but I like doing this I'm like, all right. Well, what are your performance that what kind of performance have you seen doing that I expect to see some impressive performance benefits and if they have it great, that means it's working that works for them.

[01:04:13] Right? If they don't that means you need to change some things around if you're tired all the time. We call the time and sometimes I've had people confide in me in the down-low people that are very talkative about very strong Advocates of a vegan diet, but then they'll send you an e-mail privately go on.

[01:04:28] You know what I actually feel like crap and so forth. I don't know if I need to start eating meat again, and I was like, well, you don't have to go that route right away. Let's just focus on improving. Well initially part of your approach to the vegan diet is that you also Focus so the vegan diet is a diet.

[01:04:47] That you should supplement with his well, I mean you use some really high quality of full amino acid profile proteins like pea protein and stuff like that too. That's right. Yeah, I have about [01:05:00] one or two shakes a day. Usually one in the morning one after I work out with other people teen or a mix of kinwa protein pumpkin see a protein is a lot of good brands out there and I like to rotate protein powders.

[01:05:10] I'm not overusing certain strains not getting brown rice protein every single time or pea protein different strains is something I picked up. Charles poliquin too because you can develop a sensitivity to any for or sensitivity or even worse than that your body can stop using it properly. Yeah, like it's like oh because the body the body has this ability to do magical stuff when stuff is not abundant, right?

[01:05:37] What stuffs abundant the body goes? Oh we get this every day when I have to worry about that, but when there's scarcity involved the body goes, well, we may not get this protein again. So let's go ahead and build this this muscle. While we can so you have to you have to do that. You have to but the thing I want to point out again, and I know that it's I'm being redundant.

[01:05:57] There's a lot of vegans out there who believe [01:06:00] as long as I'm not eating animal I'm fine that is contrary to your approach. Your approaches doesn't even matter about the animal to you. You're going I need all of these varieties, but I also need to make sure I'm getting good high quality. The amount of good protein and that's something that I think most vegans Miss.

[01:06:22] They just think oh, I'll just eat salad all day long that you're not going to do. Well with that. Yeah, I think when you lift weights at a high level or you do some kind of physical performance at a high level you you know, whether something is working or not. Right when you're a sedentary person and maybe you're just sitting at a desk all day.

[01:06:37] You're the range of energy you need is a lot lower than someone who's very physically active. So one thing one thing that's great about working out. Is that if you start getting weaker at every workout for months on end, you're doing something wrong, right? But if you're at but if you're getting stronger and I've been doing a vegan diet for 25 years right now something I picked up last month right now.

[01:06:58] Sometimes someone's been doing their for three months of [01:07:00] like, oh, I feel great and I was like great but you don't really know if it works for you tell you've done it for at least a couple years then you know, what style damn because a couple years is a long enough period of time where. You can't judge if you're not getting the nutrition you need you're going to notice the negative ramifications of that especially when you're training hard, you know, right recovery is going to be all I had I had a guy come on the show last quarter of last year who his name is Andrew Drew.

[01:07:26] I think his last name is Morgan. He is like a high level. He was a high level like vegan blogger. He has like some vegan businesses that he still has today. Like he says look we can't talk about this because. They're vegan businesses and like but but he he lost his libido. He lost his ability to maintain an erection and he said like just on a hunch.

[01:07:49] He had a steak the next morning he woke up with would he said that's it. I'm done with this whole vegan thing. Now. The reason I'm telling that story is because. That's not you. [01:08:00] I know that's how you could you also focus on hormones. So the way you're doing this vegan diet is the way that it should be done for anyone who says I'm a conscientious objector to hurting animals, but it's also important for me to remain healthy and viable because just eating Watercress all day long isn't going to cut it for you.

[01:08:18] You got to do it like you do you gotta go. Oh, I need good quality protein. I need that. I need high quality fat. I need that. I'm sure you supplement with Duty. Twelve or any that's when it stopped. I take a B-Complex. There you go. There you go. When your pup when you're pumping out a lot of adrenaline and this is good for everyone in general.

[01:08:35] Not just mediators. I mean not just vegans, but when you're when you're popping out and I'm a fairly adrenaline dominant personality. I'm a pretty driven person. So you can deplete your B vitamins pretty rapidly. So I want to get B12 B6 B5. You name it? I actually did a spectre cell test a long time ago.

[01:08:51] The only thing I was deficient in wasn't B12. It was B6 B6 is very important for protein metabolism and many other things. So those kind of things are used. That's what that's [01:09:00] another way to determine whether what you're doing is actually working and you know, everyone needs good vitamins and minerals to so not.

[01:09:07] It's not like vegans are the only ones that are writing protein powder meters take protein powder. Well, if you're doing is you're doing the Canadians? Yeah, if you're doing the keto diet, you're going to be deficient in minerals. You're going to be deficient in certain vitamins, right? It's in this day and age unless you are a hunter gatherer where you literally spend 80% of your day Gathering and eating food because that's what they did.

[01:09:27] You're going to be deficient in something right and then the food now with that as we all know the quality is not as good as it used to be so you're not getting even if you're eating the. Quality food, you're not getting the vitamins and minerals that you used to get the vitamin D is really important you talked about that many times.

[01:09:42] I mean who's getting all the vitamin D. They need from their diet really? No one and then you want to expose skin to sunlight but you have to expose a lot for a long period of time and even then you could be my vitamin D levels were abysmal and I'm out in the sun quite a bit. And when I started taking 10,000 IU's of vitamin [01:10:00] D levels went into an optimal range in a couple months.

[01:10:02] I went up to 600 you and I you and I had oxygen, okay. We have a lot of melanin in our skin. So right so our ancestors their problem wasn't having to low Vitamin D. It was over producing vitamin D. And that's why we evolved to be darker. And and when I did my 23andMe I found out that I have a higher degree of vitamin D binding protein than a fair skinned person.

[01:10:26] So I have all the check mechanisms in because my people probably spent all day in the sun now in order for me to get. Into the 17 anagram range of vitamin D. I have to take 30,000 I use a day. I tell people that feel like what because if that I was taking 10,000 IU's a day. I was in the high 40s.

[01:10:50] Why because I body processes D differently because I'm dark skinned. Right? Right. We're a for taking basket person could take a thousand our use and hit [01:11:00] 70. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. I was taking 5,000 it barely budged expected because that's considered a. Don't you have like a thousand I did that for maybe two months or went from 20 to 30, which is better, but it's not close to Optimal wasn't until I did 10,000.

[01:11:14] I got up to 64 right now. It sounds like I'm going to have to go even higher to get up to 80 and so forth. Absolutely more optimal range. Look I'm not I'm using I'm using the metagenic vitamin D with. Yeah, I was about to say Vitamin K is really important and I take I take 30,000 IU's a day along with cod liver oil.

[01:11:33] I'm doing a show I'm doing a show on Wednesday about iron. I found the guy finally to come on the show to talk about. Iron ages us write one of the things that vegans don't have the problem with his iron accumulation because plant-based iron isn't absorbed as well. But that's a whole nother story.

[01:11:53] But but you know, the the interesting thing about that is that he's got me taking cod liver oil. I'm using the [01:12:00] metagenic cover all he says because because all that other vitamin A is synthetic. Right. And so I'm taking a tablespoon of metagenic cod liver oil a day to match the here's something interesting people don't even pay attention to this.

[01:12:15] Okay when you eat liver superfood, I love liver, right? It has more vitamin A stored in the liver than vitamin. But everybody's supplementing with vitamin D and ignoring vitamin A right that's really important for testosterone production as well. Well, I listen all these it's important for building muscle, you know, we've all heard seen studies on the retinoid X receptor right and muscle growth.

[01:12:39] But what do you think retinoids are there vitamin-a? Yeah. So people are taking copious amounts of vitamin D and they're forgetting so I actually have gone to natural vitamin A now as well. So yeah just it's just like with hormones there has to be a balance with minerals. If you take too much zinc now you're depleting your copper if you take too much copper, that's a.

[01:12:58] So you need all of [01:13:00] these things you just needed in in the right dosage and I load up on hemp seeds and pumpkin seeds as well because they're both very high in magnesium and zinc, but I like to use supplements as more nutritional Insurance just to make sure that's because your absorption levels of food are going to be different at times.

[01:13:16] So you maybe you're under stress or you're not absorbing the minerals the way you normally write or maybe that batch wasn't as good as the last faster. Maybe normally there's high levels of magnesium in hemp seeds, but maybe this batch for whatever reason is lower. So, Have some level of consistency there certain things that are really important magnesium and zinc.

[01:13:32] I have a transdermal oil. I just rub it to the skin vitamin D3 is really important vitamin A is important be complex and people often find it actually like ta-65 to I'm not sure if you're familiar with that. Yeah, it's okay, but here's the thing about ta-65. It's good. But the reality is that now we know that taking the actual full complex.

[01:13:55] Really the astragalus astragalus member Nation because it's not just the it's just [01:14:00] that's way cheaper. So that's good. If that's the actually the more effective it's more effective. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, Peter Krause who I see watching. Hey Peter. He he actually got me turned on to ta-65 a while back and I liked it.

[01:14:10] But hey, if just regular full spectrum astragalus actually has been shown in there. There are other things. In there besides the stuff that they concentrated in ta-65 that directly improve telomere length and they just kind of they just kind of there. I think they're glycosides or something like that.

[01:14:28] But yeah, they the recent research shows that astragalus full-spectrum astragalus is more effective more. Well, well, dr. Wright also talks to the guy who wrote adrenaline dominance. He talks about the importance of progesterone and he's used that the treat adrenaline dominance, but he's also found that progesterone is a pretty potent.

[01:14:47] Later as well, but what's really interesting is ADHD, right? A lot of a lot of young men talking about man again a lot of young boys rather like, oh, he's got hyperactivity syndrome or whatever whatever they want to call it. I go look every [01:15:00] guy has that right this this lack of focus and your mind is all over the place.

[01:15:04] That's why working out is so good for us or even going for long walks because it helps quiet all those voices in your head so that you can focus. I always find that after a hard workout. I'm tired, but I'm also pretty focused after a long way. I feel rejuvenated and you just worked out all these voices in your head.

[01:15:20] So now you can concentrate but he found that actually giving young boys progesterone cream just a small amount actually help them help quiet that racy mind and all of a sudden these kids are studying for hours at a time when they couldn't do that before interesting. So progesterone is really interesting and he his theory is that it helps with.

[01:15:39] It helps with Kee Kee keeping up glucose levels. So now when you don't get you don't get that when you get the insulin spike, it helps prevent driving down. The glucose level is Fabric. In fact when women Michael lepelt, I'm working on the new formulation right now almost done with it and it works.

[01:15:56] But yeah, thank you for asking about Primal the I have a [01:16:00] patented topical vitamin D product. Yeah, I've used as before. Yeah. I'll try to show you something. It's a cream now and it's more effective in delivering. But anyway, where was I going with that? So the interesting thing about progesterone is when women go through menopause and estrogen and progesterone start getting out of balance.

[01:16:21] That's when they get hot flashes. Yes and hot flashes are just episodes of hypoglycemia because the ability to manage blood sugar if you look up classic hypoglycemia shakes sweating rapid heartbeat anxiety. Those are the four most. Things that and you ask a woman that's going through menopause.

[01:16:40] What are you suffering from? Those are the things I feel shaky I have anxiety I break out into sweats for no reason at all. That is that is progesterone as you point, right? That's what that meant. And I'm progesterone is the building block for cortisol and adrenaline as well. So that the definitely cortisol.

[01:16:58] I'm not sure about adrenaline but definitely [01:17:00] cortisol. So when if you have super high levels of adrenaline, you're likely going to be really depleted in progesterone, so bringing those. Was up to a better valid point the higher stress you go through you need more progesterone. Absolutely, right?

[01:17:13] So I had a young lady who's a friend of mine in the military. She did bomb disposal out there. So you want to talk about a brave young lady. But anyway, she did some hormone testing. It was a saliva test and I looked at the second page in her cortisol curve looked really good actually was the first page.

[01:17:27] I was like, wow, you know, the cortisol curve is really good. It's pretty high in the morning low in the evening what you wanted to be. But then I looked at the second page and it was no DHEA. I mean none undetectable no progesterone undetectable. So she's cannibalizing all of these sex hormones to make cortisol because as we said earlier cortisol is essential you don't make it you die.

[01:17:46] So your body will cannibalize every ounce of course testosterone DHEA you name it? And DHEA is very underrated because in a lot of ways is testosterones Big Brother protects it from cortisol. And is the ultimate [01:18:00] Stress Management hormone, so, Jay is really potent stuff. And when you have optimal levels of DHEA, you're going to be way more resilience.

[01:18:07] So like the hormone stuff is just fascinating. Yeah, I know I know. Yeah, that's always been a big that's been a big thing. In fact when we came to Las Vegas that time you and I sat with Alicia all we did was talk about hormones the whole time. Yeah, and but anyway last but nobody ever wants to talk about this too.

[01:18:23] If you ever if you go to a cocktail party, we talk about training nobody cares, right? So yeah, you know deadlift a couple times a week. It's gonna be crickets. No buddy. You're not even gonna have anyone standing around. Who's that talking about the hormones, especially you start talking about hormones, especially with regards to sexual function.

[01:18:37] Every guy within earshot is going to be kind of going to be doing a lecture you like women. I'm surrounded by 1220 guys asking me questions. Yeah. Let me pass the plate capacitor plate around last thing speaking of lectures upcoming events. I know that you travel a lot you do. You still do kettlebell stuff for you more in the kettlebells are basically my rearview.

[01:18:59] I'm always [01:19:00] gonna train with kettlebells. Of them, but I'm done teaching with kettlebells somebody I realized I taught a course in Austria and I just it just I just realized you know what I'm not really that excited about doing this anymore. Then then I actually had one or two students say, you know, you didn't really look like you're that excited and I was like boy, that's a bad sign one thing when it's one thing when you know, but when it's visible to other people majority of people liked it, I just realized you know, what I miss is not my focus.

[01:19:21] So I started retailing my own supplements a while back. Obviously, my testosterone booster aggressive strengths my Flagship product that I have a recovery oil I've got. We know Energy Products systemic enzymes where can people get it at your website like Mallards I calm and they can use coupon code lla get 10% off.

[01:19:38] But what happened is in when I when I came out with the recovery oil. It was a nice little income bump, but certainly not enough where I could stop doing other things right, but then I came out with my testosterone booster in 2013 and that blew up right to the point where I go. You know what I'm making good money doing this.

[01:19:54] Let me pull back right? I'm an arse start doing them in frequently. Then when my mother passed away in 2015, [01:20:00] I just didn't want to be in front of people. I don't know. I don't know what I'm so sorry to hear that. I didn't want to interrupt your flow before but I know no it's fine. I appreciate it.

[01:20:08] So I needed to take some time to myself and just be at home and work through that work through the sadness. It's a really important work through the grieving process, but I knew that I love public speaking' so I knew that I would eventually get back in front of people. I just wasn't sure what context because I didn't really want to do kettlebells anymore.

[01:20:24] So I deliberated on that for a while and decide. Just kettlebells have become really comfortable because I'm known as a kettlebell guy and it's fairly easy to fill up a room for that. Although it's way more difficult now because kettlebells are so ubiquitous. It's not like it was in trials and five right?

[01:20:39] But here's the thing at all. My kettlebell courses. I used to talk about hormones for about an hour. That would be like a bonus segment. And usually the our we're turning the two hours with QA people. How do we get to a point where because people love that information is like, oh man. We got to go.

[01:20:53] We have to go back to kettlebell training now. I just want this so I. Let me just do a six-hour event where I just talk [01:21:00] about hormones and I'm going to have special guests. They're doing some strength training is just to break up the day. I'll cover deadly technique and things like that. So we're not just sitting there all day for six hours.

[01:21:09] But I also feel that now somewhere like want you to make a teleseminar, you know retail is online and I did that many years ago. I have an 8-hour a hormone optimization lecture series that still sells really well. So I understand the appeal of that right? You don't have to leave your house and listen to it when it's convenient for you, but.

[01:21:27] At the same time, I feel that as a society. We've lost this face-to-face communication ability where sometimes I'm having lunch with a friend and I could just what we're doing right now. We're actually looking at each other having a good exchange. That's a dying skill because so many people are on their phones all the time and they're on social media all the time.

[01:21:45] They've a lot of times these people on social media that are kind of Alphas of social media. You meet them in person. They can't make eye contact right at their feet. It's totally different person, right? So my attitude. Look, I want people I want to deliver [01:22:00] this information in a very excited impactful way.

[01:22:03] So I'm going to be really fired up to deliver this information. I want people going man. That guy's nuts but the sounds really interesting. You don't see Tony Robbins doing teleseminars know exactly exactly. So that's that's a really good analogy. So I want people in front of me and I want to be in front of people because I feel like that's going to be the most impactful thing, you know down the line.

[01:22:20] Maybe I'll do that. I mean, I'm sure at some point I would make a product out of it. But right now I'm doing strategic event. Everyone in the UK just north of London at a place called core. Oh Jim. I'm doing that on April 7th. And then or is it April 10th? Anyway, it's on my website Mike Miller.com.

[01:22:37] It's in April and then I'm actually going to do one for Las Vegas Metro. I have a few friends in Las Vegas Metro. So this would be a closed circuit events or private event because you want to talk about people that are pumping out adrenaline all day and I feel like police officers get a really bad rap too kind of like men do were people like, oh the police are just bullying people and abusing people like oh, that's a very.

[01:22:56] Percentage of police officers most police officers in my opinion are good people and [01:23:00] they want to do a good job and they're out they became police officers to protect and serve as the sign says so my attitude is this there's very few demographics that. that. There's very few that need this information more than that demographic.

[01:23:15] Yeah, I think really important for men and women at Trent just it just to talk on adrenaline dominance would be really important about about eight or nine years ago. I tried to reach out to the chief of police here in Jefferson County because I had just read a study that showed how low testosterone affects reaction time in stressful situations.

[01:23:34] And I wanted to say look you've got you know, you know, there's a there's an old saying among Hunters. The Arts the old animals that are the big threat, you know, the young animals, they'll run away at the old animals dead. They're just pissed off and on rain for some reason and their face they're going to come after you.

[01:23:52] Yeah, and the same is true of old humans. And so when you have aging police officers, they don't feel good. They've got aches [01:24:00] and pains they make bad decisions when they're called upon to make fast decisions and and and hormones are play a big role and. Hitting that problem and I wanted the PD here to say, you know, maybe we should talk to our older guys.

[01:24:16] Let's get their testosterone and estrogen levels and DHT. Let's do a full blood panel on him. Let's see if you know, maybe we don't want to put them on testosterone because that would be bad because you put somebody on testosterone and they heard somebody say, oh it's cause she's on testosterone.

[01:24:29] No, that's not why but but at least maybe change your diets get them to start paying attention to things that balance your hormones. Well, I have a police officer friend who uses my testosterone booster and he's addicted to it. He just I really recommend eight weeks on four weeks off just so you don't get desensitized to the herbs.

[01:24:45] He's like now I'm not going to do that. I'm just gonna stay on indefinitely. Why not? Like, all right, you know get your blood work done you have to to some extent why not and I there's nothing harmful in the product and I've actually found that a little bit lower dose is I don't powerlifter. This guy was on trt my [01:25:00] friend Jack Reed and trt only took his level up to about 650.

[01:25:04] This guy's maybe 55 or something like that. So that's not a. Number but with CRT you would expect a better number than that. I don't know if it was the cream. I'm pretty sure it was the cream. Yeah training a lot of guys don't absorb the cream proper. Yeah, you sweat it out and so forth. Are you just don't absorb a well.

[01:25:16] But anyway, he took one cap of my aggressive strength, which has about 200 15 milligrams of bulb find that alliances. That's the Cornerstone ingredient then it's got mucuna ashwagandha and stinging nettle room just one cap and then he took one cap of EC and my estrogen control product and his his total testosterone up to eight twenty in his Free level.

[01:25:34] I think was 150. Numbers so we got better numbers taking a natural property is increasing your own testosterone then taking trt. And now I'm not now obviously if you took a trt in a better manner, he would be probably well over a thousand obviously the market you can go really high with that even Columbia injectable.

[01:25:53] He could it isn't like that. Yeah, but but so do you know who. Both bull by not a [01:26:00] lenses and for dodea aggressed us to the United States. You did. Yeah, I should be sending you royalty. No, but I'm just saying hi. I had I had a relationship with a with a scientist and I remember now, let's do those episode in law and Lauren Nigeria.

[01:26:17] Yeah, his name was dr. Toy on yakubu that he first did he first did a study that appeared in the the Japanese Journal of andrology on for doji agrestic. Right, then. He did one on a bull by not a lenses. They work two different ways bull bind low as estrogen and and and for dodea increases testicular cholesterol, huh?

[01:26:40] So that's why you produce more testosterone. And yeah and like I just introduce them because like oh, this is really interesting stuff. Next thing. I know like companies are putting this stuff in there and their products Anthony Roberts reached out to me and said, you know, there was a company and.

[01:26:57] No in Canada real big company. They were they were like putting it [01:27:00] in 4 Doge it I was like, oh my God, I'm such a jerk. I should do like life extension Foundation does I should have reported it and then talked about it, but you know what? Yeah. Anthony is the one who turned me on to it and he said me he got ahold of a supply.

[01:27:13] I tried it then working out at Mark Philippe's gym. I had great results with it. So he held me in the early stages of putting the product together and introducing me to people that could help me with sourcing and ingredients right for it. So Anthony is a good friend of mine. He's a great guy. And he's a very irreverent guy.

[01:27:28] Very honest guy. And he's the kind of guy. He's always calling the Cronkite of our industry. I call him. I call him I call him the Pitbull of Journalism. Yeah, of course dirt up you he's gonna you better hope that he don't get his rocks. Are you guys gonna forget it? Well, you know what? The funny thing is, I gotta tell you something.

[01:27:45] I happen to know. Anthony stumbled into some information about a guy who's a very very high level scientist today and the guy used to do a little like sketchy when he was a bodybuilder a little sketchy stuff kind of could [01:28:00] be gay for pay kind of stuff. Oh really? Well and Anthony said that to me I said, what are you doing?

[01:28:04] Because that nothing he goes. I'm not gonna you know, so Anthony is Anthony selective. He doesn't go out to destroy people. But what he does do is if you are riding high and you're crapping on a lot of people and he. I know something about you. He brings you right down to Earth again. Yeah, and and once he gets once he gets his that's why I called in the pit bull.

[01:28:23] It's like two years later who writes a melted by another three years later because he's always looking for something. You know, he's always doing the Freedom of Information stuff. He gets things about your court cases. So what's what's he got once he gets his kids his fangs in your bone. He he's not going away.

[01:28:40] He's not gonna go. That's right. He's not a guy who can be bought off or shut off because he's not doing it for the money not like well, let me be an investigator journalists on these things because someone's going to pay me a lot of money for the story. He's doing it for the sake of doing it, you know, you know what II got his agreement to do for me.

[01:28:57] was that because I know he's going to live longer than me. I told [01:29:00] him that I want him to eulogize me when I die. Oh really? Well, yeah, I mean cause Anthony is honest. He's straightforward. He's not gonna say he's not going to say stuff. It's not true about me. But he's also somebody who would take that task to heart and do a good job.

[01:29:14] So he said I will ya remember Anthony and I talked about a lot of those supplements that were coming out when you started talking about if I go she on bulb line in most of these companies. If not, all of them dosage. Did it way too high. So people are taking 1500 milligrams of the Doja when you really only need about 500 right and something will fall by we're thinking okay this according to this study 650s a good number.

[01:29:34] We're finding that it's actually lower than that right to cap some I. It's about four hundred thirty milligrams. Right? It's the one that you caps that people are getting the most benefit versus three. Like I started taking less. I used to take three myself is that my body weight around 205 figured it was the right dosage and I felt fine at that.

[01:29:50] But after talking to people like my friend Jack and a few other people, I know who do better on one or two caps. I started thinking maybe this is kind of like Clomid where I talked to Doc Mark Gordon about Colombia because I did [01:30:00] an experiment with that one time where I took I think I took 25 milligrams every day and I felt terrible.

[01:30:04] I. Moody linkage like you I shrinkage like you wouldn't believe because like this is this is a terrible at I talked to my friend Tim Larkin to experience the same thing and then he told me if you tried again to 25 milligrams every third day are 50 milligrams every third day and I tried that and it worked really well took my total testosterone the 900 and free to 125 and I was like, okay, so people one of the one of the problems that we have is this more is better.

[01:30:29] Yes ality, and we have it with everything. I'll one cup of coffees great. So let's have five. Hi, you know working out I'm working out for days a week. I'm getting great results. Let me work out eight times a week. Yeah twice a day. All right. It's like no you can take it too far where now it's diminishing returns and then vulpine actually works on that bell curve where if you take too much it actually lowers your to know.

[01:30:49] I know it's always better to and and so doesn't understand. The problem with Fado Gia is the same thing the rodents that were given for doji aggressors at the highest dose. When they came off of it their [01:31:00] testosterone never came back it literally like, oh, wow. Well the latex cells so it just came so productive that they just couldn't keep up after that.

[01:31:07] They just destroyed the lady's house. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So there's more is better mentality gotta be careful when it comes to making money. I make I make I feel like the ratio between what I make now a my free time is very favorable mean. I have a lot of free time and I make more than I used to make and I was traveling all over the world, right and that's really important to me because I don't want to.

[01:31:27] Work all the time. I don't want to be someone that's just chasing the dollars and I love working but I like having free time and living my life too. So sometimes you have to make that decision going. Okay, if I want to double my income, whatever reason that's fine. But what sacrifices are you willing to make are you going to want to work six seven days a week?

[01:31:48] Ten hours a day to do that. And for what purpose maybe you have some some important goal of achieving that but at these are the kind of questions you want to ask yourself because talking about adrenaline a lot of the lot of the reasons why we have high adrenaline [01:32:00] this because we have jobs we hate this is both men and women most people hate their job, right and the very least is Johann Hari came on my show talking about depression and he said that I think it was 60% of people are just ambivalent about their job mean they don't love it, but they don't hate it, but they're not excited about it, right?

[01:32:18] That's. And then I think it was a pretty high percentage maybe 20% they hate their job. And I remember the last job I ever had was working as a business development guy at a company called respond.com Northern Virginia and I kid you not there were times where I would drive to that job and I would think you know, what if I just went off the road right now who cares?

[01:32:37] Yeah this a terrible thought. Yeah, but you're just because it was so boring. The money was good. So it was tempting just to stick around because it was so easy. But at the same time I used to be tired. All the time I go why am I tired all the time? Because there's no excitement. Here is Rebel then once I started doing what I do now in 2002, I got into the Fitness business.

[01:32:56] I got fired from this job says okay never again. And then I started [01:33:00] just interviewing people that I admired like Frank Shamrock MMA fighter and that was so motivating for me to even talk to people like they're eyeballs popping all these people. I admired I was like, wow, this is awesome and I wasn't making any money at that time, but I was excited every day.

[01:33:12] Right first, of course, I ever taught at eight people. They paid like 60 bucks or something for. Flowers, I think I made just under 500 bucks and I was so excited about that 500 bucks because I was like, wow that people I'm enjoying this. They're enjoying it. Everybody's having a good time making money.

[01:33:29] Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is how life should be so I don't want to do anything. Now obviously we have to do things. They're not fun all the time doing your taxes is not fun. You can pay someone else to do that. But if you do it on your own, which I like to do, it's it's not fun, but it has to be done.

[01:33:43] But when it comes to working, I don't want to get in front of people and talk about my favorite restaurant or talk about Blackjack strategy and I want to talk about something that I'm super passionate about like Farm on optimization stuff, right the supplements. I love designing products and. We telling them [01:34:00] and then getting great feedback from people.

[01:34:01] I mean the feedback of how my products have benefited people that's extremely gratifying. Right? So it's just nice to be in a I think it's really important for both men and women to find a way to get into something you're passionate about and maybe you have to take an income hit initially most likely you will maybe you're going to take an income hit indefinitely, but you're going to be so much happier doing that.

[01:34:23] Then it's not worth it to make three times more but you hate it and you is because you're pumping out of journaling old. And then you have stress at home when you're what if you have negativity at home. Maybe you're married to someone who's not a good fit for you or your girlfriend or boyfriend.

[01:34:34] You're just fighting all the time. And then you have makeup sex you think okay. That's great. Let's just keep it together. So I know you're just pop it out. Adrenaline all the time, right? This is the negative energy. So those are the things that I think are the biggest dissipations of stress in pumping out adrenaline as a job.

[01:34:48] You hate relationship stress. And they're not spending enough time in nature going hiking is really good to clear here. We got to get away from all this well, and when you think about it when you think about it, so today all of [01:35:00] the motivational gurus in space what they talk about is grind grind right get up get up get up at 4 a.m.

[01:35:08] Go to sleep at 2:00 a.m. Grind grind grind, you know, and I've said this before the show I blame Bud Fox and Gordon Gekko in Wall Street for this because you know remember it that was good. Well, you know Gordon Gekko is on the beach with his Motorola 8000 and tell him Bud Fox get up. You don't make money when you're sleeping and he had just been trading in China or something like that.

[01:35:33] Once let's just for wimps. Yeah, and and like everybody was like, oh so I get it so. I just don't sleep. I just work all the time. And now we have gurus or out there telling people you need to get up and grind and no you don't need to get up and grind because your life is going to suck if you don't do what you're saying and have time to enjoy your life and I think motivational seminars are a distraction at Best in a waste of time more likely because think about it.

[01:35:59] I've been to Tony [01:36:00] Robbins event and you go walk on fire if you have low testosterone before you walk in that fire because where it's at at the end of it, it's still low, right, you know. You can change now if I help you optimize your hormones, I improve the whole Spectrum forget about you needing motivation.

[01:36:16] You're going to be so self-motivated. You're going to blow through everything in front of you. You're going to all of a sudden all these things that you wanted to do is you're going to think are possible now, right? This is what happens but going to a seminar where it's about trying to change neuro-linguistic programming.

[01:36:28] We're going to change the way you think about stuff look try and you can change the way you think about stuff but it comes from affecting brain neurotransmitters and hormones. It isn't. I'm just listening to a speech and all that and whatever benefit you get is from the hormonal response to that.

[01:36:42] But if you optimize your hormones, you don't need motivation you're going to be fired up to do whatever it is you well and actually so when you look at the words motivation what people really want is inspiration, then that's that comes from within you want to be and you want to leave lead and Inspired Life [01:37:00] motivate his motivation.

[01:37:01] I hit a horse he runs faster. Is that who you want to be because then the whip is the boy. You're not the boss the whip is the boss. So do you want to motivate yourself by forcing yourself to do stuff that you're really not crazy about doing but you're going to do it anyway, because you're going to grind because everybody or do you want to lead an Inspired Life?

[01:37:19] Do you want to be inspired to do stuff? Like you said you were inspired? I made $500. I talked to a people. This is wonderful. I'm inspired to make this grow. Right under percent people are lacking inspiration today. They think that oh, I read a mem and I listen to this guy and I'm gonna go out there and conquer the world but no you got nothing to conquer with course.

[01:37:39] You're not inspired. Right? Right. And then what are you going to do when that inspiration is not there because I'd like a lot of times I go to the gym. I'm not inspired to go but I do it because it's on there. It's on this. It's on the schedule right side. Okay, Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday you go to the gym.

[01:37:54] So some of those Daniels I'll be honest. I went to on Saturday. I was like, I don't know if I really want to do this. I was thinking about maybe I should skip it. I was like [01:38:00] nah, screw it go mad a great workout. Right? So it sometimes you just gotta blast through that sometimes you should skip it, you know, sometimes your body a feet up or maybe you feel a cold coming on and so I'm not saying that you should no matter what you should push through.

[01:38:11] It. Don't grind don't grow your hair. You have to be you have to get to the point where you're very intuitive not just about what you eat, but how you train because it gets to a point where we're always looking for programs to follow. I don't give me a program for deadlifts. Give me a program for this my best results come from.

[01:38:28] Finding my own programs for myself because it's very intuitive identify three times a week, which a lot of people would consider way too much but it's not to failure and it's three different moves its deficit deadlifts one day off the floor another day partial movements are not burning out your nervous system so you can hit those pretty hard since it's three different.

[01:38:47] And more importantly you get really good at this skill of doing the actual moves, right? If you're trying to get good at playing the piano. You're not going to do it once a week probably do it off. Yeah, if you whatever you're trying to get good at so if your goal is to get really good at deadlifts once a week [01:39:00] you waste a lot of time just getting all the setting cue points and just getting into the groove.

[01:39:04] So I'm a I'm a big time into high-frequency. I do full body workouts four times a week. So upper body, press upper body pull lower body, press lower body pulls and torso work right five minutes get out of there sometimes even. Three to four moves now, but there are times though where maybe you suck it up and you go to the gym, you're like screw it.

[01:39:22] I'm just going to go but as you're going through your warm up sets you realize Everything feels heavy stop there. Yeah don't want because it's just going to make you feel worse. If I would have listened to that inner voice. I would have never torn my left hamstring me to with the crime. I knew it was a bad move.

[01:39:37] I had it's not like this groin tear happened out of nowhere. I felt pain on the warm-up set. So I chose to ignore it. I. At the same. I had a tightness in my hamstrings and I thought well, I'm just going to just ignore it and keep going and I was still doing my warm up sets and I felt that pop and it changed everything for me.

[01:39:56] You know, that's so you're right. You're absolutely right Mike. [01:40:00] Let's not wait so long to do this again, man. Yeah. I love it. I love talking to you and thanks for your patience with the communication errors on my part coming on I've been doing it. I'm in my 14th year you think that hasn't happened before?

[01:40:12] I just never thought I would be. I can't make fun of other people. Yeah. There you go. That's why the book I'm okay. You're okay. Everyone should read it for that is because all the things that you criticize about other people you're going to have happened in your life as well. Hunger for said that all right brother good.

[01:40:29] So Mike Moller.com is the place to go reach out to Mike. Let him know you heard him on the show today and we'll see everybody tomorrow with the blueprint power our thank you for watching and listening.

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