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76% of Americans report having some sort of digestive issues. If you look around many people have distended stomachs. It looks like a barrel from right below their thorax down to their pubic bone. Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth is one of the most searched terms today on Google. It was virtually nonexistent in 2004.

Everyone wants a silver bullet to fix their gut problems. While I don't believe in silver bullet fixes for health problems, this may just be one.

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[00:00:00] Hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. I can't get the words out. I'm so excited today. Really? I am have to clear my throat.  Man, you're so glad you can't hear that.  so.  I don't believe in silver bullets and when people start telling me you know, oh this cured my boy.

[00:00:59] [00:01:00] Being cured me of cancer. It straightened out my thyroid. I'm sleeping better. I became fertile again when I took this supplement. I'm like no. No. No, it's BS it is but. When you find something that actually does a lot of different good things for people.  You have to tell people and so some of you may think this is BS, but I actually have a guest on today.

[00:01:32] He has to remain anonymous. He has a very very high level high security high-pressure job, and he's actually the person so we did a show about ll3. With dr. William seeds from the international peptide Society. If you haven't heard that Joe go back and listen to that shut this off go listen to that then come back to this because that sets the stage for the discussion today.

[00:02:00] [00:02:00] And the guy that's going to be on later who remain anonymous is actually the person who put me on LL 3 7. He's the guy who said. You think any of this research is legit?  And of course I reached out to dr. Seeds because he is leading the charge and the development of protocols for peptide usage. And he said absolutely it's legit.

[00:02:24] And so I bugged him until he came on the show and talked about it.  back then when I did the show I talked about the fact that I had used ll3 7 for short time at. I did a two-week run of it.  And I go back and go over that stuff in just a second.  But since then I've done another four-week run.  And the results are undeniable.

[00:02:52] This is not Placebo folks. In fact, I would say that. If you're one of the [00:03:00] 76% of Americans and if you listening to the show overseas, you can get the stuff. I'm going to tell you a source and I the source pays me nothing. It's actually where I buy my stuff from so it's not like this though. This is a plot to sell something.

[00:03:13] Okay.  But if you are one of the 76 percent of Americans and whatever percentage of globally people who have problems with your stomach those problems. Range from gassy bloaty Enos after eating certain foods waking up in the morning with brain fog. Remember I did this show with the doctor saddest rail.

[00:03:39] It was actually show number two to three two.  small intestinal bacterial overgrowth and lactic producing lactic acid bacteria and metabolic acidosis and one of the big problems with that was people wake up with brain fog now they. A very specific very expensive like [00:04:00] $1500 for 20 days Supply antibiotic for their patience and their some of their patients saw great results and others dick.

[00:04:09] We're going to talk about why that is to to second.  But there's a lot of people out there who have stomach issues because they took a lot of antibiotics in the last thing that goes. Oh, no, I don't want another antibiotic. I don't want that. He's got to be another way to fix my stomach. Well, this is.

[00:04:27] You are about to be the receiver of information that could literally change your life and I'll explain later in the show. When I have my Anonymous guest on why this can actually change your life save your life from diseases. So I did another so I did a two-week run of LL 3 7 in anticipation of the show with dr.

[00:04:49] William seeds and I told the story on the air about my cousin Rosemary 75th birthday Eliza and I went to Atlantic City. I experimented [00:05:00] eating bread and Italian restaurant and it did not affect me and prior to that for years at least the past three or four years. I could not eat any bread at. If I ate bread literally in 15 minutes or less I felt such pressure in my stomach of gas buildup and I had a burp constantly to relieve it and I would burp and I feel better for 10 seconds and then I'd blowed up again and I would be so bloated for so long.

[00:05:32] It was disgusting and it just I could need bread. Then I realized I couldn't eat anything with soluble fiber and I had to give up oatmeal. I had to give up Quest products.  I had to give up anything that had soluble fiber in it because it did the same thing. If I ate it I became so full of gas in my upper stomach in my my belly and then I my gut would get distended.

[00:05:59] I would [00:06:00] look at my gut and from right below my thorax. You know below my chest all the way down to my pelvic bone might my stomach would just stick out like I was pregnant.  And if you're a pro bodybuilder, you really need to listen to the show because the distended guts and pro bodybuilding today is really ruining the quality of the physique and this could be a solution.

[00:06:26] Now. What I've discovered is it's not a fast solution, but you see the changes rapidly, but you're gutting. Like that in two weeks.  So you can't expect it to just go away in 2 weeks.  So I was able to eat bread after a two-week run and I did higher doses than doctor seed recommended. I actually did 250 micrograms a day for two weeks and maybe that's why I saw dramatic results quickly.

[00:06:54] I took a couple weeks off. And then I just at the tail end [00:07:00] of running a hundred micrograms. It will be for a total of 50 days.  For a total of 50 days and the reason I did it that way is because I want to see if the hundred microgram dose really worked as well. As the 250 and maybe because I did 250 in the beginning and I made such a big dent.

[00:07:24] It is working just as well so I couldn't eat Quest cookies anymore. I love the quest chocolate chip cookie.  I would eat half of one and I'd say to Lisa God. I wish I didn't eat that. My stomach is so bloated and it all came out my throat if I burped it up, I didn't fought it out and this is an important distinction from where I'm going to explain to you.

[00:07:49] So.  I'm about.  maybe five or six injections left of a 55 0 50-day run. [00:08:00] I can eat Quest cookies again. I thought it was a fluke. So about a week and a half ago. I ate a half a quest cooking. I didn't feel anything. I thought wow, that's interesting. So I ate the other half not. So the next day.  I had a whole Quest cookie with one of my meals no bloating at all.

[00:08:20] None zero didn't know discomfort in my stomach at all. Nothing.  I thought it was like a fluke. I was ah, let's see. So I slowly started to integrate more High soluble fiber food into my diet. I started adding oatmeal back in with my breakfast because I'm eating breakfast. I'm not training. The right now I'm trying to eat five or six meals a day and it's going slow.

[00:08:47] I'm not there yet. But I am having breakfast every morning. It's usually eggs egg whites.  You know a cup of egg whites and one whole egg, and these are pure egg whites is nothing else. So [00:09:00] I started having a quest cookie in the morning. Wow before training that's dangerous. No bloating at all. So I started having to Quest cookies a day and oatmeal.

[00:09:14] Three Quest cookies one day I told Lisa I said I-85 Quest cookies there. I'm not being a glutton. It's not like I have no control. This is an experiment if five Quest cookies don't blow me what has changed what has changed. Well more appropriately what's changed back.  so. I do notice now that while I don't get bloated in my stomach.

[00:09:41] I do produce a lot more flatulence and that's appropriate because we know that soluble fiber is supposed to help feed the good bacteria in the colon. So I went from producing gas North to producing gas down south. [00:10:00] Ah, I've suspected that I had small intestinal bacterial overgrowth when I did the original show with dr.

[00:10:06] Satis Rio because I used to wake up with brain fog. And my muscles used to burn I talked about it on the show. I actually thought it was from Iron overload. And this doesn't discount the iron overload thing. I'm just not doing my phlebotomy. Like I'm supposed to because I want to get past my surgery first.

[00:10:25] But my muscles don't burn anymore the fatigue that I was experiencing. It's gone away. And dr. Rao said that these people tend to have lactic acidosis from their small intestinal bacterial overgrowth and they get fatigued faster. They can feel their muscles burning and I was one of those people well if that's gone that's gone.

[00:10:49] Without having scientific evidence. I can tell you what I believe happened. And that is that I did suffer from a really bad case of small intestinal bacterial overgrowth [00:11:00] and it's gone without antibiotics. This is amazing and keep in mind. I'm eating the foods. It's not like I'm on keto, you know, one of the mistakes that people make that we found out.

[00:11:13] From doing some deep digging. I found out we I always make it sound like there's more people who decide to me.  Then I found out.  Was that when you start eating when you cut out the foods in your diet that cause these microbes to produce gas. They don't die they spawn. They go into a state of suspended animation, they become spores and you can't kill them with antibiotics and or anything because when their spores there in this protective shell nothing hurts them there waiting to come back to life.

[00:11:51] They're just not ready. So you put them to sleep and you you actually make it harder to get rid of them. When you stop eating those Foods. [00:12:00] In fact, it's recommended. If you take that antibiotic that dr. Rao was talking about in his study that people keep eating the foods that give them gas because that's the only way the antibiotic can actually get in there and kill them.

[00:12:13] So I haven't changed the way I've eaten and in fact, I've added soluble fiber in and and it feels like it's getting better and better even faster. Makes perfect sense because the LL 3/7 is able to get to them and kill them.

[00:12:32] So I said it's a silver bullet, right? My stomach is definitely better Eliza comment that a couple days ago that she doesn't remember my stomach being this flat in a long time that it's tension is going away. It's not gone. Like I said before you can't expect to develop something like this over the course of three or four years and expect it to go away and just you know, the course of three months [00:13:00] after this 50 dose round.

[00:13:03] I'm going to take a couple weeks off and then I'm going to do another 50 dose round of a hundred micrograms a day because there are other magical things happening to me so. When my stomach really got funky I noticed that the skin on my upper chest.  Became very red.  And this is common in people with certain autoimmunity by the way, their skin will get red like wrote.

[00:13:27] What do they call that roseola something like that that they get on their skin. It's like a redness on their cheeks around their eyes that is actually evidence. It's of the onset of some gut issues and that is actually in and of itself.  A type of autoimmune disorder. It may not be as dangerous as rheumatoid arthritis or ulcerative colitis, but it is evidence that there are things getting out of [00:14:00] your stomach.

[00:14:01] Into your bloodstream and they're coming into the skin and they're causing this this redness. Well, if let's say my entire chest up to my shoulders used to be all red, and it was really read. It wasn't like something that you could easily just. Ignore, I mean I you look at it in the mirror and I think man what the hell is that?

[00:14:25] Well, it's just into small areas up between my shoulders and my pectorals now. It's actually about 60 to 70 percent gone.  by area.  and here's another amazing thing. Before I had my foot surgery.  The surgeon said that I had toenail fungus in a few of my toenails.  And he wrote me a prescription for the generic Lamisil and when I looked up Lamisil I said wow, this is really hard on the liver.

[00:14:59] And so I just [00:15:00] didn't take it. I just didn't take. He explained to me that when you take these antifungals, they actually they don't get rid of the fungus in the toe. They just get fungus in the toenail. They just get rid of fungus in the new toenail. So he said when your toenails grow out, they'll grow out better.

[00:15:19] Like they won't be any fungus in them and just the tips will have the fungus until that all grows out.  That's happening. I didn't take the drugs. The toenail fungus is gone away. The toenails are nice and beautiful now like the back two thirds and the front third is still with a fungus was and that's great that that'll I'll clip that off and it'll be gone.

[00:15:42] I didn't expect that, you know. Doctor seeds came on the show and said that it's not just an antimicrobial but it is has some antifungal capacity as well.  So this is nothing short of [00:16:00] amazing to me. It's not I mean it is but but some of you may be thinking about is that you know, this doesn't sound plausible or this doesn't sound real I'm telling you and so.

[00:16:11] I'm asking anybody else on the air right now? Who's using or has used LL 3/7 to email me at on are at Superior radio dotnet so we can get you on the show, too.  But there is no doubt in my mind that this stuff works and the sheer number of people out there with gut problems today who don't want to take antibiotics to ruin their gut even more.

[00:16:36] This could be the only good.

[00:16:41] I'm going to go ahead and take a break and I'm going to bring my mystery guest on a little early. I had planned on bringing on at the bottom of the hour, but I think he has a lot more to contribute than me about this because he has noticed some other changes in himself that have to be discussed.

[00:16:58] Stay tuned. We'll be right back with more [00:17:00] supering radio. Welcome back.

[00:17:05] so my guest today is remaining Anonymous will. Bartram is John Doe. He has a very very high level high security high-stress job and he's actually the guy who messaged me and said, what do you think of this stuff and the deeper? I dug the more interesting it appeared to be to me. How you doing John?

[00:17:23] I'm doing fine Carl. How are you doing? Good good, so. You two have been using LL 3 7. All right, you you waited for me to try it and write you and I communicated I did say and this is something I should say on the are also the first like three or four days when I started using it at high doses 250 micrograms a day.

[00:17:45] I did suffer from what could only be. Thought of as her Kaymer effect, which is rapid die-off of bad things. They kind of makes you feel sick. It kind of makes you feel like you're on the verge of getting sick. You're [00:18:00] fighting something. Did you experience that as well?  Yeah, it lasts for me. It lasted about two days.

[00:18:05] I felt like I was getting a mild flu or maybe getting over from a mild flu for about two days.  Okay. Hi. So how long have you been using LL 3 7 now? Probably about a month and there are these are all it's just anecdotal evidence. But for me, it's nothing short of amazing. I've had some gut issues for many years now and they would on occasion borderline get seriously out of control from abdominal pain, too.

[00:18:43] Not to be so blunt. But well did you see you could you know you could just say bowel movements. I know you're going with this. They were they were yeah concerning they were concerning right? Yes, like the color the color the odor that was like, oh my God. Yeah. Yeah, right [00:19:00] and from that abdominal pain then also the diet my I had higher than I should have sugar cravings and that would manifest.

[00:19:12] Self with usually a fairly large chocolate bar pretty much the middle of the afternoon. And if I was tired at work that chocolate bar may happen at 10:00 or 11:00 in the morning and if I went out to dinner and the waiter brought bread, the bread was simply going to disappear I could there was no will power it the bread was going to disappear.

[00:19:34] So occasionally, I would go no carb and that would do quite a bit to reset. My internal well, or I think the I think the low-carb diet works because it does not encourage the production of the bad things that the microbes produce exactly but the thing is the way we're the way we're made human nature when you get tired, you start to crave carbs and some of [00:20:00] my work days can be 11 12 13 14 15 hour days.

[00:20:05] Now, there are a lot of people think it's in themselves. Oh, that's no big deal, but you have to understand without. Feeling who he is his job at 18 hours a day is not your job at 18 hours a day. So let's just leave it at that and take take and take my word for it that his job at 18 hours a day puts a great deal of stress on the brain and the body.

[00:20:23] Let's just say that. And I would be exhausted the candy bar would come out I would have so in other words whatever I did with the no-carb diet, I would take two steps forward but I always take the one step back when I would go to work. I get exhausted the candy bar the bread carbohydrate. And then like alcohol, I would like to have a glass of bourbon in the evening.

[00:20:51] So the no-carb diet could reset alcohol bread chocolate. It could reset all of that, but it couldn't get rid of it. Right and and it also should [00:21:00] be said that it's fairly impossible because of the security nature of your job for you to prep meals and bring stuff with you. It's not it's just not an option because I know that there was a period in your life where you did prep meals but it is.

[00:21:14] Prime to difficult like it because of the security nature of the job. Right? But the thing is, LOL 3 7, you know, I kind of waited for you to try it and I follow and I didn't die right but everything that you said that happened to you happened to me. I did not feel feel too good for probably two days.

[00:21:38] Maybe maybe three. But that it was mild and after that the things that the no-carb diet could not do the LL 3:7 I feel did and let me back up. I was looking for a solution for my gut issues [00:22:00] four, three, two, three, maybe four years because they my gut issues were getting severe in my opinion and. I found LL 3:7.

[00:22:10] I asked you about it Carl. Then remember I coincidentally saw there's a doctor's newsletter that I subscribe to. I don't know if I can say his name. Of course, of course a lot of people know dr. Blaylock. Okay, Doctor, dr. Blaylock right in his little newsletter. He had an article on LL 3 7 where it comes from.

[00:22:31] It's apparently from vitamin D3 and he talked about the cytokine storm. And so that. So coincidentally piqued my interest and then I approached you about it. And I did not you were at one point looking at that antibiotic. I did not want to go in that direction for when it's expensive. I don't know if my insurance will cover it and it just seemed too much work to go in that direction.

[00:22:56] Plus I don't like antibiotics and LL 3 7 [00:23:00] has been nothing short of amazing for me, right because I like. After reading dr. Blaylock newsletter, I felt a lot more comfortable with it. I don't consider myself a risk-taker and it was able to do things for me that the no-carb diet. The no-carb diet could reset a lot of things.

[00:23:23] Well, look, let's so let's clarify something here a low carb no carb or keto diet stops feeding the bad microbes. They become spores those. The are in suspended animation. So now they are no longer Bad actors. They are in there asleep and they're no longer producing the chemicals from the consumption of soluble fibers and starches a cellular carbohydrates.

[00:23:50] Why did a whole show about how a cellular carbohydrates basically flowers feed bad bacteria in the gut. So starving them [00:24:00] they don't die but LL 3 7 kills them because the evidence is of. That is that I am now eating the foods that used to cause the problems and there's no problems and the fact that right.

[00:24:12] I'm getting flatulence means that that fiber is no longer being broken down in my small intestine. It's making it all the way to the colon where you want it to go because it feeds the good bacteria in the colon. So this is you know, this is not just this is not like a pharmaceutical cover up the symptom and you're still broken.

[00:24:34] This is actually fixing its eradicating the problem. Right? Right. And you know, the thing is like I said after reading dr. Blaylock report, I and talking to you and our research it is done things for me that I could not accomplish without it. I have no I mean. Let me like I would also let the way I want I want to I want to talk about alcohol in a second, but I just want to backup your second.

[00:24:59] [00:25:00] Okay, so as I recall you and I just this just dawned on me as I recall you suffered from rosacea. Didn't you used to get redness in your face and stuff? Yep. Yeah. Yeah, that's a gut problem. Okay. So, when's the last time you had that and has it gone away? Does it come back when you eat the wrong Foods?

[00:25:21] Oh, yeah, and and if if I eat the wrong Foods it can it can come back for the thing is I don't have a desire for those Foods anymore. Right? I have I have it has literally wiped out any desire for bread chocolate alcohol. I mean absolutely no desire at all. And here's another side effect. You know Brad chocolate alcohol.

[00:25:42] There's a lot of sugar and all three of those I have as a collateral effect. I have I'm down to I'm down almost right about nine pounds so far effortlessly. I've lost because of the no bread. No chocolate those cravings. [00:26:00] I'm down almost 10 pounds. So now let's let's stay with that for a second.

[00:26:04] Okay, so we know that part of the gut brain connection is that microbes in the gut produce chemicals that influence desire and Cravings, so. It makes perfect sense that you I mean you you will looking for these foods and alcohol you you looking for them, and now you're not looking for them. And in fact, you went out to dinner recently with some friends, and everybody was drinking wine and you love wine.

[00:26:37] You're kind of like a wine Aficionado and you said you didn't even you didn't even you didn't have any interest in drinking water. Yeah, you know, I've always enjoyed going to the wineries in Napa Valley and I just I just had water all night. I just did not have any desire whatsoever for for why that's it.

[00:26:55] You know this isn't it's okay. So I don't want to go too far on what LL [00:27:00] 3/7 could potentially do but there are probably people out there who are drinking a lot of alcohol because the microbes in their gut. Sending signals to the brain that are creating create creating cravings for alcohol that once those microbes are gone.

[00:27:19] They may not want alcohol anymore that you know, that little sliver of this discussion needs to be taken by some scientists and looked at because this that in and of itself is freaking huge. That's true. You know something for me that's that is equally equally as big car like The Willpower. I don't have willpower.

[00:27:43] I mean we all say we do but I'd buy the chocolate bar and I'd in my mind I'd say I'm going to use it only in case I need it. Well, I always will power would cave in and I always needed it and recently I bought that candy bar out of habit. No desire. It [00:28:00] just sat there. I. I had no desire for that.

[00:28:03] No desire when I went out to dinner for for wine or or anything else. It just Zapped although all of those Cravings. Okay, because like you said the microbes it's more of a demand side. The microbes are essentially sending a signal we demand this an honest signal is not being sent now right now talk about talk about your bowel movement now has that changed.

[00:28:27] Everything's changed. Yeah, everything has changed it's back to where it was several years ago solid solid now. Yep. Yep, and and also just just the feel of just the day-to-day feeling down there. I just you know, my abdominal abdominal issues. I everything just feels better because there were a lot of times during the day there'd be low grade.

[00:28:53] You know discomfort in the abdomen. For abdomen section that [00:29:00] it would the no carb diet would mitigate that to some degree but I never felt one trip up on the no-carb diet and it reemerged. Whereas now if I have a trip up and eat something that normally would have aggravated the situation those problems do not reemerge.

[00:29:19] This is powerful stuff folks. I mean, I know this is just two guys talking about this but there's good. So, you know, there was a study I tried to get the authors of a study called little peptide big affects the role of LL 3 7 in inflammation and autoimmune disease now, the reason this study is important is because whenever talk whenever anybody talks about inflammation or chronic inflammation, you must think gut because that's where the inflammation.

[00:29:49] Is inflammation is the soldiers they are the soldiers of the immune system and the immune system resides in your gut and your immune [00:30:00] system is all messed up if your gut is all messed up. So your you are much more inflamed autoimmune disorders as we said on the show for years now all come from the gut.

[00:30:11] So the idea that LL 3/7 is being studied by scientists. There's another great study on. L 3 7 and rheumatoid arthritis that it may actually be a good therapy for people with ra and we come back to the gut and you know, I know what you mean about the awareness of your stomach. Do you know that I have realized now that it's gone, I'm standing straighter my spine and here's why because for the longest time I realized I was kind of just slightly crunched over because my gut.

[00:30:48] For just never felt right and now I can and you don't realize you have an awareness of it until you start to do the kind of things that make it go away and you go. Wow, you know [00:31:00] what I can stand up straight and let my abdominal muscles relax and spread out and my stomach is flat now that's inflammation that's going away now.

[00:31:10] It's not all gone. I have a feeling that I'm going to have to do at least three or four more four week runs in order to eradicate everything that's going on in my gut because there's no way to have it go away. And but but but knowing that it's going away. It's like this is wonderful. I can live with this.

[00:31:30] I'm going to get rid of this now. Carl for me. What I like is I can let my guard down a little bit if I trip up and have something that normally would have aggravated the situation. It's not set in stone that anything is there's no there's no severe consequence. If I trip up the way they're used to be right right.

[00:31:54] I want to take a quick commercial break when we come back. I want to start to talk about some other things that fit nicely into this [00:32:00] discussion my. Guest today is anonymous referring to him as John Doe and he has some valuable information to contribute to this conversation. Stay tuned. We'll be right back.

[00:32:11] Welcome back.  My guest today is John Doe. You've seen him in movies on slabs. With Joe Friday that too young to know Joe Friday is I so let's talk about some other things. Let's extrapolate. Right? So if LL 3 7 has this effect on your stomach my stomach and I'm sure other people's and I'm sure that the emails will start to come in from other people now that we're doing the show and there are people out there using it for a couple weeks or so.

[00:32:44] Let's look at some of the disorders that we now know start in the gut right good research has shown that Parkinson's disease starts in the gut people. One of the earliest warning signs of the onset of Parkinson's disease usually [00:33:00] comes about a decade before the symptoms show up and that is a stomach problems digestive issues and severe constipation.

[00:33:09] Then you raise an interesting question that I was actually thinking about. Like a half hour before you raise that I was walking into the studio and I have a friend who has a baby they adopted from China and she's on the Spectrum and all these kids that are on the spectrum. They all have gut issues all of them.

[00:33:28] Right. And so, you know, what? Could LL 3 7 do for the autism Community? What could LL 3/7 do for people who have the biological the genetic markers for for a high likelihood of developing Parkinson's disease as soon as they notice their gut starts going south.

[00:33:49] I mean all the people with our with autoimmune disorders we're talking about could be benefiting from LL 3 7 all people with with. What's the other one all straight of kaleidos? [00:34:00] And and and and and what's the other one that I can think of right now? But it'll come to me. I mean what what what could we do for the 76 percent of Americans that claim they have gut issues.

[00:34:11] Imagine this imagine. I mean in LVL 3 7 is not expensive. Okay, so I said earlier. I'll tell you a source on the air. I do not get anything from these people. In fact, if they find out you're using it on your shelf. They won't sell it to you. They are a legitimate legitimate research peptide company.

[00:34:35] They have a greater. Vaster selection of peptides and anyone you've ever seen they manufacture their peptides in a lab in California. They're called peptide Sciences. They're the only ones that I think have LL 3 7. I don't know if anybody else has it other than like maybe Fisher Scientific and then you're going to pay you $1,500 a milligram.

[00:34:58] And it's not expensive. It's like [00:35:00] 60. I think it's $65 for five milligram vial if you put four milliliters of of bacteriostatic water in there. That's basically a hundred 25 micrograms of shot or use the point eight instead of 10 units use point a use eight units and that's a hundred micrograms of shot that unless you 50 days.

[00:35:21] And what do you got to lose except the stuff that you're suffering? But.  I don't think I'm being Reckless by suggesting this at all. And you know, there is evidence that this so LL 3 7 as we said on the last show with dr. William seeds is a class of proteins called catho Catholics citizens. They are actually they are keishon anti microbials.

[00:35:49] They are the body's own antimicrobial system. And there is evidence that the as you age you produce less.  [00:36:00] So it is any wonder that people start to develop these gut problems when they get into their 40s and above especially with the assault on our dietary intake today because of things like glyphosate which is a is a is a mild antibiotic you're eating it days in and days out.

[00:36:20] So I mean, what do you think? I'll bleep that. Oh, I how bleep that out man. No problem. I'll bleep. What do you what do you think John? No II couldn't listen. I've suffered from these gut issues for several years to the point that. There would be issues even going to work sometimes right and those issues are completely gone any remaining Cravings that I could not eliminate by diet because you know you and I [00:37:00] prefer to do diet first anything.

[00:37:04] I could not eliminate by. They were there were things I simply could not no matter what eliminate in with LL through seven. They're gone. I feel much better. Just like you said on a day-to-day basis with my gut walking around I feel much better. And the consequence I've also lost several pounds that I could car like could not lose that weight before I it just wasn't going to come off and then here it came off effortlessly when those last few Cravings were simply.

[00:37:43] How long do you intend to run the L3 7 this time around and then how long will you take off? I'm just curious of your own personal protocol.  You know, I'm I'm probably going to wrap up this week take some time off you and I live in an area of the [00:38:00] country where there's a we've had to you know, there's a fair amount of mold fungus all around us in our environment.

[00:38:06] I think I'll just do it periodically throughout the year as. More of a maintenance issue, right, right. Yeah. I mean I keep I know so many people who reach out to me because they have stomach problems so many.  And it's probably the number one requested information. I asked, you know, can you help me?

[00:38:31] I've got this I've got and it all comes down to gut problems. And if you have chronic inflammatory disorders, you can look to your gut to help solve that too. You don't have you and I have talked before about just the the fungus and mold and so on and and the the role of that in long-term health and the deleterious effects of fungus and mold in long-term health and the studies that you have a [00:39:00] guest on what at one point regarding.

[00:39:05] You know a connection with mold or fungus and cancer am I recalling? No. No, that wasn't me that I think that was another podcast that I know that you listen to I haven't done the whole mold and cancer thing at this point in time because because the bottom line is cancer. Is the result of a mitochondria going rogue whether fungus caused it right?

[00:39:30] Whether inflammation caused it, you know, I mean whether chemical harmful chemicals you've come in contact of caused it the end of the day the mitochondria has to change first and that's been shown conclusively by dr. Thomas Seyfried. So I stopped chasing the one or two things Upstream from that right that actually.

[00:39:54] You know put that in chip, but I know you've told me about that you've told me that you've listened to podcasts before that talk about [00:40:00] the linkage between mold and cancer and I believe it. I don't doubt it. I think that there are probably molds out there that that harm the mitochondria. Well, you know that that one doctor that I used to pay attention to think at Nova cause or whatever it was he would talk about the in certain molds and fungus is that could actually almost mimic, you know cancer in the body and and how you can you know, the adjust the exposure but like for my gut issues there is no way you can tell me that just to live with that kind of discomfort year after year is healthy.

[00:40:39] There's no way that that's not potentially setting me up for some fairly significant deleterious consequences down the road. If I continue if my gut continues on the past that it's been on for several years. Do you know that the term small intestinal bacterial overgrowth is one of the highest [00:41:00] search?

[00:41:01] Terms on Google I would just check Google Trends and oil from 2004 through 2010. It was a fairly low low low low search for term at 2010 through 2003 Chase its peak in 2016, and now it's continued on so this whole idea of small intestinal bacterial overgrowth is. His search for based on a variety of symptoms and those symptoms are you know gas and bloating when you eat certain foods because instead of them being digested through fermentation down further in the process.

[00:41:42] They're being fermented earlier up in by the stomach and the gas comes up to your esophagus. But also a brain fog, you know people who wake up in the morning with brain fog and they get they all say, oh, what's your thyroid at your adrenals know it very well and [00:42:00] most cases is because you have small intestinal bacterial overgrowth that's over producing lactic acid and it's a special type of lactic acid.

[00:42:08] It's not the same lactic acid that your muscles produce which dissipates it's D lactic acid, which lingers it stays around the. Then just it you know in your muscles your muscles actually will use lactic acid as a source of energy if a glucose and fatty acids aren't available. But but this this like the gas it doesn't get used it just hangs around and it just makes your muscles tired and make your brain fog and it's like sticking a potato in the tailpipe of a car and the exhaust just backs up into the engine the engine can't get any Oxygen the can't breathe and so just stall.

[00:42:46] Well, like little things like just going out for sushi II could not eat the rice that would come with the sushi. I would I would bloat after dinner and even one beer was too much discomfort. [00:43:00] I wouldn't even. Dear Eliza, and I last Thanksgiving. We will cooking Thanksgiving meal not this past Thanksgiving the one before that and for some reason I said you want to get a pizza.

[00:43:14] Like I haven't had a pizza real Pizza like a Papa John right sighs. I haven't had a pizza in like I don't know five six years you want to get a pizza and we'll open up a bottle of wine and we'll while we're cooking will eat pizza and so we did. And I had two slices of that pizza and right I swear to God I'm being accurate right now the next morning.

[00:43:36] I woke up not just with brain fog. I had problems with my balance this I'm not I'm not joking about this. I'm not doing it. All right and my muscles burned like I had such fatigue that walking up the stairs was. And why you know why because not only were Eliza and I having a party but those microbes in my small intestine will [00:44:00] like oh man.

[00:44:00] It must be Thanksgiving. This is great. Let's let's just be were having a party to yeah, they had a party to let's just poop out all sorts of toxins for Carl and reward him for feeding us.

[00:44:12] I mean, you know, we're joking about it, but this is really accurate of what's going on. I can't I can't now the real problem with LL 3/7 as I see it, right? That's going to stop a lot of people in their tracks is the fact that you have to inject it. So for those of us who have been injecting stuff for a long time.

[00:44:31] It's no big thing. This is an insulin syringe 29 to 31 gauge. The 31 gauge is actually like the size of a non-metal eyelash and you don't even feel it and you just you just pop it underneath your skin. You don't have to worry about hitting a vein or an artery. This is not an intramuscular injection.

[00:44:51] This is. Injecting it under the skin. So if you know because what you said a minute ago, John is accurate that [00:45:00] there are a multitude of diseases that all stem from gut problems that you've lived with for 10 or 15 years. Not you personally, but. Like why wouldn't you try this? Why wouldn't you try this if it could actually not mask the problem, but cure the problem you're the problem.

[00:45:22] I mean, it's just crazy the problem. Yes in the first place and and I'm not telling parents who have children on the Spectrum to do something Reckless. I don't think this is reckless compared to the drugs that they give kids that. On the Spectrum. That's a very good point. This is not Reckless. Now that being said let's now that being said are there doctors out there that are looking at ll3 seven for the kids on the autism spectrum.

[00:45:51] I hope I hope so and if there's not I hope they hear this show and they go well, you know what this may be worth trying. You know [00:46:00] it and you can go to the international peptide Society Dock and you can sign up to be trained by them and use these peptides responsibly and use LL 3 7 specifically with children on the Spectrum could just mean.

[00:46:16] I know there are a lot of people out there who are science minded in they're going Carl you a reckless. You don't know what you're talking about. You're jumping to conclusions or two guys, you know having the same results. That's nothing but there is research out there on autoimmune disorders and LL 3 7.

[00:46:33] Rheumatoid arthritis in LL 3 7 there's research out there on LL 3 7 and candida. I mean, so it's not like as though I'm saying to you take this thing that you don't know anything about. No, there's good research out there doctors need to read it and and you know, and then think to themselves Chi this is this is like the one of the one of the scientists I tried to get on is with the NIH and now I know why she doesn't want to get on because she's want to be associated with [00:47:00] this show.

[00:47:00] You know because she's with the National Institutes of Health, but there's she's published a study on on LL 3 7 and rheumatoid arthritis that it actually could be beneficial therapy-wise.  And unlike Carl. I don't know if you'd ever go into another show on remember when we were discussing. Dr. Blay locks article on getting him on and and LL 3 7 s role in the cytokine storm.

[00:47:28] Well, no, but I already know look the societal kinds of inflammatory. They are pro-inflammatory, you know, they cause inflammation when your body has a problem and it goes okay, we need inflammation here. Now. That's like saying that I picked up the phone said we need the Marines here now. Like we got a war we live in that a lot of people live in that state.

[00:47:53] I agreed that's chronic inflammation. So cytokine storm is just another way of saying chronic inflammation. [00:48:00] There are lots of diseases that chronic inflammation is part of the disease all of those diseases could benefit from LL.

[00:48:12] All of them right now again, I'm not a doctor so I'm not worried about somebody from the licensure board going. This is reckless advice and we're taking your license away from you, but there has to be doctors out there who aren't Reckless who are sensible who will hear the show and go. Okay. I need to at least look into this and I have a feeling I feel very confident.

[00:48:35] In fact when they start to look at the body of work that's been done already on else. Seven that no one's talking about they're going to go. Okay. I have to work with this now. I have to try this now. Who do I try it with first? What's the most likely person that I'm not going to hurt before I go to autistic children, right?

[00:48:54] I want to take our last commercial break when we come back going to wrap up the show. There's really not a lot more than we can say other than [00:49:00] go to peptide sciences.com and get your LL 3 7 today. There you go. Welcome back.

[00:49:10] I mean, I don't know what else to say. I really I don't want to just talk for the sake of talking and waste people's time. I think that the discussion we've had today shows two guys who have had similar results who have had gut problems for long periods of time and they just have gone away and it's not like it's not like John does the same things.

[00:49:31] I do on a day-in and day-out basis who our lives are very very different. I mean you have anything you want to add? Not really the thing. I'm just happy about for like I said, I could not completely eliminate those gut issues for many years and when you.  Deviate even slightly in my humble opinion.

[00:49:56] When you deviate even slightly from where your gut should [00:50:00] be. The deviation at first is no big deal. But if that goes on year after year after year as it did with me you're setting yourself. If up for long-term serious consequences. Yeah, absolutely and and the issues are simply gone.  Yeah, I mean, you know what I eating stuff with soluble fiber that I haven't been able to eat in years and it and I don't even notice that I eat it now like I I could I mean it's just I can't tell you I can't tell the audience when I say this.

[00:50:33] I can't tell the audience like how. But need Quest Bars request cookies anymore just couldn't plus that soluble fiber was being fermented too far up in my small intestine and I would Belch and they were nights where I would go out to dinner at a nice restaurant and I to eat bread with my dinner and I could tell you like if I ate it I can eat the same meal with them without bread.

[00:50:57] If I ate it without bread no problem. But if I [00:51:00] ate the bread I would go home and I would tell a Lisa I can't go to sleep yet. I'm too uncomfortable. My stomach is so. Up, like somebody stuck stuck an air hose and instead of filling their back tire up. They filled my stomach up with air. That's how it feels and I would belt and I would literally I would literally take my hands like like like knives I thinkers and go from the left side of my stomach to the right and push push push push to help work the the gas up so I could burp it out so I could feel less uncomfortable.

[00:51:35] I'm going to stick with the diet that that I've had for quite a while. I'm not going to try to reintroduce anything for one. I just feel I just feel better on it. And I think it works for me. I'm glad that I could eliminate the bread chocolate and alcohol and I've consequently I've lost a few pounds in the process that I could not lose before, but I'm going to probably stick with a diet that I'm on I just dated day I [00:52:00] feel.

[00:52:01] So much better with those low grade gut issues gone because they hindered me you always knew they were there even if there was no flare up. I was aware of them and like you said earlier those issues are simply gone now, right and I'm going to probably stick with a diet that I'm on. I think it works best for me and I'm not proud and probably not going to reintroduce things, but just day-to-day I don't have the low grade field.

[00:52:30] You know in my gut that I used to have and and you and I don't have I don't worry about it anymore either. I don't worry about consequences now and not only that but you don't have this is a big one. You don't have the urge to drink alcohol like you did before. Oh, oh that's just out to me. That's astonishing.

[00:52:49] Yeah, it's just there's no no desire at all. And and before I'd have to like going out to dinner. I'd have to preempt the waiter. Don't bring the [00:53:00] bread. Whereas if they bring bread now, I simply don't want it. Yeah, it's this is cool. Okay, so there are two shows that those of you listening to this show need to listen to.

[00:53:12] To connect all these dots that we're talking about now because if you're listening to us now, it's kind of like listening to the watching the end of a movie and you don't know why the guy is killing the other guy, you know, so 2 2 3 2 is with dr. Satis Rao and he is a physician. What do they call a mom gastroenterologist his group did a really good study on people with sibo and brain.

[00:53:41] And they found out that those who have sibo producer ridiculous amount of D lactic acidosis and lactic acid and that caused the brain fog and the soreness and fatigue in the muscles and when they gave him a specific type of antibiotic and they killed that it'll went away but it didn't work for everybody and that's because those [00:54:00] people were not continuing to eat the foods that cause them problems and keep those bacteria thriving and eating while they were needing to poison them the other show that you need to listen to.

[00:54:10] And after that is show number two two seven nine and it's the second half of the show with dr. Bill seeds from the international peptide Society where he talks about. What is LL 3/7. What does it do? How does it work? Where does it come from and and the and the science side of LL 3 7 and then listening to this show with two guys who who listen to those two shows and thought hey, I'm going to try all three seven actually a winning using LL 3 7 and though I.

[00:54:39] Those three shows together today show two to three two and two two seven nine should be all listened to in their order to two three two, two two seven nine and then Today Show two to eight nine and then you can go and try LL 3 7 for yourself. That's my humble opinion. I think that's what people [00:55:00] need to do.

[00:55:00] In order to be responsibly assessing this discussion. What do you think? You think that's right?  I agree, okay. It was a natural progression for you. And I you know just sort of doing the research and then you had I don't remember his name but the doctor on absolutely that's that's a the best order to go in.

[00:55:20] Yeah, because then you'll connect the dot everything we talked everything we talked about today is anecdotal. But what he was talking about on that show is research. Right, right. And and and the research is out there go to PubMed and just type LL - 3 7 and start reading the research on this peptide.

[00:55:38] And and now. We'll find a couple studies that implicate LL 3/7.  In tumors, but let's not forget that tumors are the most opportunistic cells cancer cells are the most opportunistic cells and they leverage everything that's good for healthy cells, they double [00:56:00] down and leverage it. So there is no evidence that LL 3/7 is causing tumors, but it does show up in tumors and so does.

[00:56:09] And so does growth hormone. So, you know, you have to remember that that that tumor cells and cancer cells are they just leverage everything that is good for healthy cells and they double down on that. They consume more glucose. They consume more igf-1. They consume more growth hormone, and it seems to be some LL 3 7 in there, but they could be using they could be led by leveraging the L3 seven to keep microbes from hurting it remember that so that.

[00:56:38] Nothing in the any of the literature that implies LL 3 7 has any real link to any bad outcomes any bad outcomes and the research on rheumatoid arthritis. Autoimmune disorders is profound is profound. So check it out. And that's it. That's it for today's show. Thanks for being on the [00:57:00] show, buddy.

[00:57:01] Hey, no problem. Thank you. Okay, and we'll see everybody tomorrow with more supremum radio.

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