Iris Davis - Lucy Leitner - Darcy Clarke
Iris Davis made it clear in our initial interview she DID NOT do this. But now she does. What is it? And why did she change her mind? PLUS Clarke joins Carl to discuss the re-introduction of "Come At Me Bro" to the Super Human Radio line-up and why.
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[00:00:00] Prepare to experience the strongest radio allowable by law secret will be revealed Miss Des appel's gym where excuses never apply it superhuman radio with your host Carl annoy.
[00:00:31] Hey, hey, welcome back to another episode of superhuman radio. We were supposed to do a Facebook live today. But thanks to technology. We are falling back to the old standard of an audio podcast, which is where I've cut my teeth for the past 13 years. Sorry about that. We wanted everybody to see how beautiful Irish look.
[00:00:48] But it's not going to happen. So we have to do the show. Anyway, The Show Must Go On I'm going to bring everybody on and then later in the show. We're going to talk about me bringing back. Come at me, [00:01:00] bro. Every other week Friday so that I can answer your questions real-time on Facebook people seem to want that they've been asking for it.
[00:01:09] So anyway, okay, so we have Iris are you there? Colin now in the lobby don't forget about the lobby. We already disconnected the video. We're going to go audio and Lucy you should be there also. Yep, I'm here. Excellent. Excellent. So we have Lucy Lightner with us. We have Iris Davis iris is returning to supremum radio.
[00:01:32] Those of you who didn't see irises original interview. She is amazing. She 75 years old. She's crushing records. She's a personal trainer. She is motivating millions of. To take their health more seriously, if you never heard her story before it's a very very inspiring story that starts when iris is very very young and had been cast into being a single parent because she lost [00:02:00] her husband at the time and and that moment in time was an opportunity for her to either sink or swim and she swam and it's a very inspiring story.
[00:02:10] You have to just look on super you radio. For her for story. Anyway, Irish lips. Let's talk about what's going on with you and you have some upcoming announcements. You want to give some shout outs before we start talking about the secret that you're keeping as a result of last show what's going on with you?
[00:02:28] Well, I am being featured in the. due to come out in the fall. We don't know the name of. featuring some superhuman being myself being one of them. Lou Ferrigno.
[00:02:48] Amongst others. I'm Mark Cuban. Oh, wow trainer and several other superhuman beings who achieved the on the normal [00:03:00] success and I'm looking forward to that. I'm very honored to be included in that. that is kind of exciting so you've had really. A lot of success lately and it's because people can't believe how old you are when they see you.
[00:03:19] I saw you in your animal print outfit on Facebook. You look stunning. So I mean but you've had you've had this attention for a long time now, right? I mean, this is not new to you people have been watching you for a long time because you've really been crushing it for decades now, right? Well, I've been in the business for 52 years, but my recognition is only coming now due to social media because when I had been doing all this and getting championships and making incredible videos, nobody knew who I want and then [00:04:00] just suddenly I seem to get a lot of recognition from a lot of people and quickly gathered tons.
[00:04:08] Followers, but this year particularly it seems to be soaring and I was told yesterday that three is my lucky number and I was born on the third. So I'm working on it and share. So tell us it's a tell the audience about your world record. You have a world record in one and pull ups. For women pull up the women but at 75 years old.
[00:04:34] How many pull-ups did you do to achieve the world recognize birthday last year on good morning, Texas. I did 21 pull up and I had never done 21 before I had always just manage 15. And I was praying I could still do 15, but my adrenaline was going that day and it was like a piece of jelly and I probably could have [00:05:00] kept on for another 10.
[00:05:02] Do you do you ever think happened God? I'm sorry. You know, it just happened. I had no idea before I started that I'm going to achieve that many. Do you ever think to yourself while you're doing these types of Feats of Strength? Oh my gosh, I'm 75. I better be careful or do you just move forward with the same attitude?
[00:05:22] You did when you were in your 30s? No, I never think of my age because everytime you touch a wait. You don't know whether you're going to do it or not. You tell yourself you're going to do it if you tell yourself. Oh my God, I don't think I can do it because I'm 75, then you won't do it. I still think of myself as 35 every time I touch you away or I do a pull-up on the Rings I go upside down.
[00:05:49] I never once let myself know 175 ever that's standing. Do you celebrate your birthday's do you celebrate your birthday Cyrus? Do you celebrate your birthday's? [00:06:00] Not really. I just know it's my birthday, but I never celebrate my interesting but I've reached. When you look in the mirror, do you see yourself as you are today?
[00:06:12] Or do you see yourself? Do you still see that young girl that started in physical culture shortly after losing your husband? Yep. That's I still think I'm 25 to 35 some days. I think I made in 25 and it's saying that I have to kind of look at my seventh. Oh, heck I'm 75. And I'm and then I tell myself I'm pretty incredible because you must know who you are and you must admit to who you are.
[00:06:39] But if you think you're a fool, you're a fool to think you're a champion your chances. Do you think you're young you're young and your genes will stay young because she's not even allowing age to come into it. It's just something you can do do what you can do everyday. So when you were on the first Facebook live show that we did.
[00:07:00] [00:07:00] There was a person in the audience that was affiliated with live on Labs, which is a major sponsor of mine. I use live on lab product every single day. I use the vitamin C. I use the glutathione. I also now use their acetyl-l-carnitine product, which a lot of people don't know that they even have we need to stop promoting that more on the show.
[00:07:22] And I guess it was Lucy it was you that was actually watching the show that day, right? It was our our marketing director. John Carpenter was listening to it and said. You know, he sent me a text. Like are you listening to Carl show today? This is pretty incredible. And so then I tuned in I watched the whole thing as well.
[00:07:44] I completely agreed with him. But yeah, John just happened to be listening as you know, as we do and he finally taken by Iris. Now there was something that Iris said to you know, I was getting questions from the audience that day because it was a Facebook live and people wanted to know well what [00:08:00] supplements does Iris take.
[00:08:01] What does she take that she attributes, you know all of this groundbreaking success to an iris. Do you remember what you said? You said? I don't take any supplements. That's correct. That's correct. And I say I'm going to thank you for giving me the opportunity to walk back on that statement because live on Labs actually reached out to me and supplied me with.
[00:08:28] I'm supplements which I started taking daily. And now that's the first thing I take every morning. I take the life of ferric vitamin C in a shot glass at 3 oz of water it goes straight into my system. I don't have to expel any of it and have some expense of your eye and I really notice a difference not only in my strength.
[00:08:55] My energy my clarity, especially I [00:09:00] seem to be flying on animals change now and I really love it. I also take. I also take the glutathione for my liver because I know I've had many toxins lurking for years around my liver and now they're all. Leah and I feel fantastic on them. I wouldn't be without them now.
[00:09:22] So you really do feel different taking these supplements. I really do feel different. I actually look forward to getting up taking them because I take them before breakfast and I say a little man try here we go. Help make my day great, and I usually have a great day. Now this has to be a big deal for you because you can't mean you're no newcomer to this sport of bodybuilding and physical culture.
[00:09:50] And obviously you've seen supplements before I'm sure you've tried supplements before and at some point in time. You just decided Well, these aren't doing anything for me, but [00:10:00] first of all what? What made you even think to yourself? Okay, I'll give these a try because you were a staunch opponent of really depending on supplements for anything.
[00:10:09] What why these why did you even try this? Well, I went on to their website and they have tons of information about it all and I learned about how it was developed with the special delivery and maybe Lucy. You could set them here until the wonderful delivery system, which I believe in and I'm absolutely certain that that's the main reason why I started taking them.
[00:10:40] Sure. Yeah, we. Yeah, really it we use a we were the first dietary supplement company to use liposomal encapsulation for the delivery of water soluble nutrients. What is I think a lot of people have heard over the years about how vitamin C and about how you know, if you take a [00:11:00] multivitamin supplement most that just you know gets flushed right out of your body.
[00:11:03] I know that you know, that's kind of common parlance people people kind of have that in their head, but. Really complex as to the reasons why and it's and the vitamin C with the liposomal encapsulation does is enables the supplements to really outsmart to outsmart the body? It's I mean kind of plays into the whole like biohacking culture that's going on.
[00:11:24] You have a really restrictive nutrient transport system and by taking a liposomal encapsulated supplement you outsmart the bodies restrictive nutrient transport system to enable Superior absorption of the. So we started out with vitamin C. This is you know, it's ubiquitous. Everyone is pretty much aware of the benefits of vitamin C nowadays, and we also, you know expanded the line to include other water-soluble supplements that have difficulty absorbing through traditional [00:12:00] supplements traditional oil supplements and are also very difficult to come by in diet.
[00:12:07] So that's really how we created the product line and but they're all ingredients that have incredibly compelling scientific third-party unbiased research behind them and in particular the products that we supplied to Iris are just are just so powerful. The glutathione is getting a bit more attention these days, but it's.
[00:12:32] The it's known as the master antioxidant and those products in particular that in the vitamin C. We just thought would be perfect fit for Iris because they're really not they're just accentuating all of her healthy habits in her healthy lifestyle. So I have the luxury of having been able to interview Cindy nachman on my show for five years ago, maybe longer and so just to kind of [00:13:00] give some back history.
[00:13:02] On why there is even a live on Labs today. So less nachman had heart problems and they found out that infusing vitamin C into people with this particular type of heart problem was was very effective and at keeping progression of this heart problem at Bay, but. It wasn't practical for them to constantly have to go to a doctor's office to infuse him and Cindy stumbled upon this information that liposomal vitamin C is as effective as intravenous vitamin C.
[00:13:38] And here's why the the delivery system of encapsulating. The vitamin C molecule in a liposome not only makes it more bioavailable that when you take it orally it gets into your bloodstream faster and more completely but it has a secondary advantage [00:14:00] that is very important when you're taking antioxidants.
[00:14:04] So antioxidants actually become oxidized when they pass through the cell membrane the process of passing through the cell membrane into the cell where it's needed. Actually uses up that antioxidant value and now you have to wait for that antioxidant to be recycled by something else like a master antioxidant like glutathione for instance, but by by encapsulating the molecule of vitamin C in this quasi, Trojan Horse Bubba.
[00:14:34] Allows it to pass through the membrane, which is also a fat and the bubble that the micro the the molecule of vitamin C is encapsulated as a fat it allows it to pass through the membrane without being oxidized which means that upon entering the cell. It's ready to do its intended job. So there's a there's a there's a dual value.
[00:14:59] Of [00:15:00] liposomal encapsulation, especially as it relates to antioxidants number one the higher bioavailability you're getting more of it into your bloodstream less of it is being destroyed due to first pass liver degradation because it's actually being absorbed into the lymphatic system in the intestines and it's bypassing that digestive process that would send it into the into the into the liver but it also.
[00:15:27] Makes the makes the vitamin C or the glutathione for that matter remain in a positive Ox antioxidant state so it can actually do its job and not wait to be recycled. So this is and so this supplement came about or these two supplements came about with the interest of saving and prolonging a man's life and then Cindy after working so hard.
[00:15:56] To come up with this decided that this is something other [00:16:00] people could use as well. And that is where the Genesis of live on Labs came from. Hence the word the name live on they wanted less to live on less is still alive today, by the way, and so, you know, there was very very Noble Beginnings in this product.
[00:16:16] No one was doing anything with liposomal delivery before live on Labs nobody and so it's a to really to there a testament to. The reason behind the development of this product was very very Noble now with that being said, there's some really interesting benefits of taking liposomal vitamin C and glutathione as it relates to women.
[00:16:38] First of all, the quality of your skin and the production of collagen goes up and most women start to see around the two-week point and therefore out in fact live on Labs had a study done to show that just won 1,000 milligram live on packet a day. Actually change the quality of fine lines in woman's skin, [00:17:00] but there's another study.
[00:17:01] That no one talks about it was actually done in Filipino women with vitamin C in liposomal vitamin C, by the way, and that is that hyperpigmentation is something that women start to develop freckling, you know, and women hate it. Oh I go out in the sun and my freckles get darker. Well taking liposomal vitamin C and glutathione in combination has been shown.
[00:17:26] To reduce the darkness of hyperpigmentation. It actually is kind of a whitening agent that works from the inside out. So women who have a lot of freckling from exposure to the sun over the years. They can will actually see a lightning of those freckles the longer they use these products. Did you know that Iris?
[00:17:45] Yes. I was just about to interrupt you. Actually I find exactly what you just stated is happening to me almost daily. And I do not go in the Sun [00:18:00] every time you see a nice photo of me. I have both turn on but I did go into in the sun when I was younger. Of course. I did not know the dangers and I do have some little age spots on the back of my hand.
[00:18:14] Now I'm giving away my age, but I've noticed that they've absolutely shrinking and fading which is. To me, that's a miracle. Yes that column. I'm glad I didn't have to tell all the good benefits because although I read everything that you just said, there's no way on Earth. I could have described it as eloquently as you just did.
[00:18:43] I was even fascinated listening to it and I know all about. I want to take a quick commercial break and when we come back, we got more questions for Iris to stay tuned. You're listening to superhuman radio. We shall return.
[00:18:58] Welcome back. We're talking to Iris Davis [00:19:00] and Lucy Lightner. Lucy is whipped live on Labs Irish recently started taking live on Labs products and she's noticing differences already. We did not rehearse the show. I didn't know that she was going to say the things that she said and it's important to understand that because.
[00:19:15] Iris has spent her lifetime not using supplements. And now all of a sudden has found something that actually works and that she's willing to talk about which should tell you something so Lucy. Talk a little bit about the acetyl-l-carnitine. This is a new offering from live on labs. And it's a very important one and I'm going to tell people when and they when they absolutely should take it.
[00:19:41] By the way. There's a little trick that you can use acetyl-l-carnitine for when did this hit the. This is the market early in 2017. Acetyl-l-carnitine is it's a variation of the nutrient L-Carnitine. It's also water soluble and there's also there's you know, [00:20:00] you have to have an alignment of several favorable factors to be able to absorb.
[00:20:05] L carnitine in general so it made it a great candidate for liposomal encapsulation and really what makes carnitine and generally unique is that it transports dietary fats to the cell mitochondria to be converted into energy meaning it helps you metabolize fats acetyl-l-carnitine is is. Even more intriguing because it's the only variation of carnitine that has been shown to raise carnitine levels in the brain, which means it helps.
[00:20:38] Provide energy to brain cells making it incredibly important and and that's one of the tricks. So if you are someone who likes to go out on the weekends and have a few cocktails, if you take one packet of live on Labs acetyl-l-carnitine before going out and drinking and another one when you come home that night before you go to bed, you will not wake up with [00:21:00] any hangover whatsoever the next day because the acetyl-l-carnitine actually binds.
[00:21:05] To acetaldehyde which is the byproduct of alcohol which is associated with hangover. And this is a little trick that I learned years ago. And I used to use the store-bought acetyl-l-carnitine powder and you have to take much more you have take about 3 grams before and three grams after to. Similar results is just taking one packet before in one packet after of the live on lab stuff again, because so much more of it gets into your system because of the efficiency of the liposomal delivery.
[00:21:38] So if you do like to drink. That's a good thing. Now. If you've been told that your body has any type of fungus. If you've been told that, you know, you have a fungus problem. If you have fungus on your toenails chances are your body has fungus fungus is produce alcohol quite [00:22:00] often in fact. There's an absurdly astonishing case of a woman who got pulled over by a police officer and was arrested for being drunk while driving a car and she doesn't drink and what she was blowing like a ridiculous blood out of what what am I taking breath alcohol level and it turns out that she was so infested with.
[00:22:27] With fungus that was taking the carbohydrate she was eating and turning them into alcohol. Now. She had lived with brain fog like the decades like she just knew that it took a two or three hours to get started in the morning. Once she discovered that she had this condition. She was told by a clinician to start taking acetyl L-Carnitine and the brain fog went away.
[00:22:50] Now obviously reading her body of the mold was a separate task. But the reason I point this out is if you are somebody who wakes up with brain fog in the morning, [00:23:00] you may want to try using the live on Labs liposomal acetyl-l-carnitine because if it works it's going to do two things for you. You're not going to wake up with brain fog.
[00:23:10] But more importantly it's going to tell you that you have a fungal overgrowth in your body. That's actually creating its own alcohol, and that's not good because let's face it. You're not going to drink everyday. Why would you live with the condition that's producing alcohol in your body every day.
[00:23:29] So that's riveting news to me. That's great. Yeah, it's people I know who are living like that daily for years. Yeah, it seemed all carnitine is great stuff. But yeah, and here's another advantage of acetyl L-Carnitine. If you're looking to get into contest conditioning getting acetyl-l-carnitine is the the the best form to take because of its availability to get into the cell in the liposomal form.
[00:23:59] Well [00:24:00] acetyl-l-carnitine causes mitochondria to prefer triglycerides over glucose. Which means that you are causing a substrate utilization shift where the mitochondria prefers fat over glucose what that means is you will burn more fat when you train if you take a seat allow carnitine liposomal acetyl-l-carnitine before you work out about an hour before so it's in where it needs to be.
[00:24:27] It's in the cells and then you go train and your body will use more fat more triglycerides. For energy, then it will glucose and hence. You will start to burn more fat. Did you know that one Iris. I wish I had your memory.
[00:24:50] I'm going to start good stuff to take the acetyl L-Carnitine. Yeah. [00:25:00] And I was you know telling him because he knows I take no supplements before I told him I'm starting to take vitamin C and glutathione from live on lab and he informed me he'd been taking vitamin C for 18 months and my question to him was why didn't you tell me about this 18 months ago and then just two days ago I went.
[00:25:26] Two days ago. I went into the local store and I was telling the lady behind the counter about my vitamin C and she said oh I take that out. She pulled the packet right from her first. Wow. Wow, a lot of people doubted that I thought that was great. I actually took a photo and send it to Lucy and then that very next day.
[00:25:46] She went out and bought some bluetooth ion. That's amazing. That's amazing. So Iris tell us more about what's going on. And so you want to give a shout-out to your [00:26:00] gym. Is that correct? Yes, that would be very nice. I actually have just changed where I work out in the last two weeks due to some circumstances that I took care of and I found that it suited my mind a lot better to start working out at Clayton Health and Fitness in Clayton, Georgia.
[00:26:22] It's a fairly new gym, but it's wonderful here and I don't receive. Any negativity shall we say because if you have negativity in your life, it affects your mental health also and it's best to get rid of it if you can so I just did so we had Tammy nesland back on the show recently. I don't know if you heard her interview.
[00:26:47] I had a podcast so people people have been giving her a hard time because she is so lean. And do you ever get that do you ever get people that you've known for lots of years [00:27:00] saying, you know Iris, when you going to give this up and Irish you look you look to muscled up and you ever hear that Bailey Daley.
[00:27:08] I guess people my age coming up to me daily and saying I don't you just retire. I'm retired and I love it and I go why would I retire from my life? This is my life. This is my church My Sanctuary my sanity nothing. I'm at my happiest part of my day is when I'm taking care of me. And when I take care of me, I can take care of my husband and my friends but I have no intention of retiring as a matter of fact I have now just decided to start learning some news a new discipline with Crossfit.
[00:27:49] Because I found out the quite by accident that I'm very good on the Rings and The High wires and I thought I've never had a lesson everything I do is just looked at it and thought what can I do? [00:28:00] So now I think I'm going to take some expert advice and learn a little bit more about CrossFit at my tender young age.
[00:28:08] I think that would be Super Bowl. Yeah, anything that encompasses that that incorporates any of the Olympic lifts are very very good. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, so I really enjoy my life. I enjoy my age. I enjoy my confidence. I enjoy the exuberance. I have every day that I spread and I find if I could receive any negativity back because you know, you can always.
[00:28:35] Tell volumes about a person by what they do not say rather than what they say. That's interesting. I take my cue from that Lucy. How about you do you train do you train Lucy? Yeah, I do you do CrossFit some reason. I feel bad you do CrossFit, right? Yeah. I thought so that I do. How do you like it?
[00:28:54] I love it Iris. I think you'll love it, too. The Rings are some of my favorite things. So I think you'll have a [00:29:00] great time. I watched a couple of classes Clayton health and fitness this week and I was fascinated and I think I'm going to start going regularly. That's great. I don't think you'll regret it.
[00:29:14] I think you'll have a great time. You're already you're going to come in and be it's going to be you know, you're going to find out you're going to learn pick up things really fast. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you have a great time. So I think we've covered everything that we need to cover. The real thing that we wanted to cover here.
[00:29:36] Was that that Iris has found the supplement that she can trust and believe in and that she can use that actually is enhancing things. And that's a lot for a person who's spent their life avoiding supplements. I think that's saying a lot really is. Another one. I would like to give a big thank out to John Carpenter of live on Labs who reached [00:30:00] out to me and supplied me with some vitamins that I now take regularly if it wasn't for him.
[00:30:07] I probably wouldn't be on it. Yeah you go. There you go. John is the John is the live on Labs Guardian. I doubt that he's watching over people making sure that they're taking their vitamins properly watching. Well. Sorry. We didn't have a Facebook live. So everybody could see iris is stunning outfit.
[00:30:28] I'm sure it is stunning. If you want to get a dose of it go to our Facebook page and look at the animal print outfit. She has on its really cute Lucy. Thanks for being here.
[00:30:41] Thanks for giving it a good try with all the technical difficulties. At least we produce the podcast. So there you go. Absolutely. I think you'll know much sure. I'll talk to you two later. I'm going to take one quick commercial break when we come back. I'm going to be joined by Darcy clock. We're going to talk about the resurrection of come at me, bro.
[00:30:58] [00:31:00] Hopefully people will really want it because I'm going to do it stay tuned. Welcome back. I'm joined by Darcy Clark. For those of you who want to learn about advertising on supremum radio. You can reach out to Darcy Clark. His email address is Darcy Dar Cy dot Clark with an AC l-- a-- r-- k-- a-- y-- @ supremum radio dotnet.
[00:31:22] How you doing darling? I'm doing great. How are you doing today? Wonderful. Wonderful. So you've convinced me to revive come at me, bro. And let's talk about that for a second. So you you said to me, you know, all these other guys are doing QA s now and I was like, oh I used to do that, but I stopped doing it and you were like, no you got to start doing it again.
[00:31:46] Is that right? Yeah. That's right. Like there's a there's a lot of podcasts out there. A lot of radio shows nothing like yours that I think and I think just with your years of experience in your wealth of knowledge that we can help [00:32:00] a lot more people. Especially with the QA platform because it's raw off the cuff.
[00:32:06] Nothing is as good as that I think you know Q&A is a great way for the listeners and people to get their important questions answered or questions. They feel that are you know, there's never a dumb question, but maybe they feel that they can ask if for whatever reason or just with the multitude and.
[00:32:27] The sheer amount of contradicting and conflicting information in the health and fitness and Longevity field. I think of you fantastic idea for the show to have a QA again. Yeah. So so right now every other Friday, we're doing the pep talk which is really becoming popular. In fact this Friday we'll do our first come at me, bro.
[00:32:47] I've already posted on Facebook for people to post their questions. But if you don't want to post your question on Facebook, you can send your question to on are at superhuman radio dotnet. Every question will be answered and that's why [00:33:00] see the reason I came up with the name. Come at me bro was I know that people want to ask me questions maybe that are insulting.
[00:33:08] There's a lot of people I don't like. Me for whatever reason and I'll answer those questions to the whole idea behind come at me bro was kind of a. cleaner version of off topic that I used to do with Aaron cinnamon over at RX muscle. Did you ever you are you familiar with out? No, so you found me late you you only found me because I did Tom bill you show right?
[00:33:31] That's right. I actually haven't heard about you until a few months ago. And I was blown away because I've been listening to podcasts and radio shows for since they started and the sign of a lot of them. But just with you and you're just the way that your you approach things with a very open non-dogmatic mind.
[00:33:53] It really blew me away. It's a really good balance between. Standing firm to what you believe in and what you know is true, but [00:34:00] also being open-minded enough to accept new things new possibilities. And yeah, I think with a come at me bro, they'll be a great way to you know, maybe even change the mind for people that really don't know what you're about.
[00:34:14] And they have these preconceived notions or ideas about who you are and if they still don't like you, you know, that's great. But no, I'm not going to make everybody happy. I'm not going to make everybody like me. I mean and that's also not my goal to be honest with you. I mean, I've never been somebody.
[00:34:29] Felt like I had to make everybody like me. Yeah, and and quite frankly. My personality is such. You know, I like Eliza even says to me there's friends of ours that probably don't get together with us as often as they do other friends because I do call BS on people all the time. It's like, you know well and I got to tell you something, you know kind of stream of Consciousness here.
[00:35:00] [00:35:00] Our world is in trouble right now the greatest threat to our world today is the willingness to lie in the face of contrary evidence. We have we have people today. And I'm not talk about politics either while this does relate to politics. I'm sure for some people I mean, we have people out there promoting a vegan diet when they feel like crap and they don't care because they they they want to be part of that group.
[00:35:27] And and so. You know the problem with this. That we have today and uh because you pointed out Dogma, you know, when things become Dogma when it becomes so important for you to promote something that you don't even care if it works anymore for yourself. That's a very dangerous place to be right.
[00:35:52] Yeah, for sure. Yeah, and that's we can see that everywhere now. It's the need or the feeling that we have the need to fit in and to [00:36:00] become part of a group because I think it's like like you've talked about in the past. I think it's like transgenerational epigenetic. It's in our DNA to be part of a tribe because back in the day when we were.
[00:36:12] Kicked out of the tribe or what part of one our likelihood of death was huge. So I think now people just had a fear maybe some boredom are hopping on some trains of group thinking that might not be that conducive to human health longevity and everything else. So it's it's true and you know, and this whole this whole approach is tantamount.
[00:36:38] To like being one of the passengers on a ship and knowing that the advice you're giving the captain will ultimately sink the ship but is long but you but you want to you want your group to Rally behind you and go. Oh, you know, you're so cool, but you forget you're going to go down and drown too.
[00:37:00] [00:37:00] And and you know, we I see this in our population today. Widespread and it's really scary to me. What's really scary to me is that people will stand and look at a video of themselves doing something. And then look in the camera and say I didn't do that, but there's a video of you doing. Yeah, but I didn't do that.
[00:37:23] And you know this this is this is really a great threat to the fabric of humanity. And really I mean, it's scary you have you know, somebody called me this morning. To say, you know, have you heard all these vegans and jumping the vegan ship and yeah, they've been doing it for decades. But if you talk to vegans, they'll tell you it's not happening.
[00:37:45] They'll act like oh nobody know it. I mean, I I purposely over the past 13 years of interviewed. High-level vegans that had influence in the vegan Community who have jumped ship and said how he's getting sicker and sicker [00:38:00] and I had a like recently. I had Andrew Morgan on the show who was like like a super YouTube sensation in the vegan community and he admitted on my show that like, he stopped being able to maintain erections and his libido was gone.
[00:38:18] And he finally, you know, he was like living in Hawaii and like a vegan commune and and he said to himself. I don't feel good. And I'm at a point now where I don't even care if these people like me anymore. I'm going to have a steak and he had a steak. And the next morning he woke up with an erection.
[00:38:38] And that was it that he was like, that's it. I'm done with the vegan thing. I can't do this. It's making me sucker. Yeah, that's it's so common with cold thinking or whatever you want to call it. Like there's a recent, you know, Instagram blogger YouTube gal. That was in Mexico. She got caught. I think the headline was devouring meat [00:39:00] and she was eating meat and then she said, I want to her apology videos to her followers that she was doing so because she needed to get healthy because she was sick.
[00:39:11] That's kind of paraphrasing but that's what you said and it's a it's a common theme throughout these cams. The thinking is that we're looking for that one thing that savior that perfect died that perfect everything and it's for the most part of doesn't exist. I don't think and we have to step back from that.
[00:39:31] You know that need to be so extreme and be so dogmatic and closed-minded and and to MIT when we're wrong and that's one thing that I like about you to is for example on your interview with Tom bill. You want healthier, you said? When people are researching or they're searching their they're searching with the bias right there.
[00:39:53] They're already trying to prove themselves, correct. So when you type in a Google most likely people are typing in [00:40:00] keywords for search that is going to give them what they already want to know and hear and see and and that's that's a problem to its we're searching to confirm a bias for the most part.
[00:40:12] Yes, you know. Yeah, so instead of being trying to always prove yourself, right, you know try to find the truth and if the truth contradicts what you currently believed in know then then so be it let's change. Let's evolve right? So do you know because you live in Canada to you-know-who Pam Calinas?
[00:40:30] No Pam Killeen. I had her on my show. She hasn't been on the show and quite a long time. In fact, I need to have her back on but she's written several great books about addiction. And and nutrient deficiencies. Yeah, and Pam was a vegan for like a decade and she and she said she explained the magic of becoming vegan and why people feel so amazing.
[00:40:58] So he said [00:41:00] honeymoon stage. Yeah. So so, you know Ron pain, One of the founders of quest and my brilliant man once said to me the magic and all diets is not what you are eating. But what you've taken out of your diet and this is true. This is true. This is why people who become carnivore they like I feel so good and this is also why people who become vegan if you're a true vegan if you're not saying well, So there's two types of vegans out there right one vegan says I'm going to eat waffles all day because they're not animal and I'm doing fine, right the other one says no I'm going to eat like green leafy vegetables and fruits and and and vegetation that grows out of the ground and that really is a vegan to me.
[00:41:40] Well, the vegan diet is highly deficient in zinc. An iron and but overburdens the body with copper and Pam Killeen came on the show and explained that as you start to develop copper [00:42:00] overload. It accumulates in the brain first now and yet and it actually creates a Euphoria a sense of euphoria that that is that is a Hallmark of.
[00:42:15] The vegan diet early on people start eating vegan. They're like, I can't believe how good I feel I just feel so great. And really you're right. Yeah. No, it's a combination of I stopped eating hot pocket six times a day. Yeah, and all of a sudden my brain is going wow. We got all this copper and it's causing all of these enzymatic conversions in the brain it actually.
[00:42:42] Norepinephrine it actually affects dopamine. It actually affects serotonin and you have this euphoric he like. Oh my God, why haven't I been doing this sooner? This is so great. And you know, and that's why I say to people, you know, the vegan diet is good for six weeks. [00:43:00] Like give your body a change, you know, like if you if we were if we were still hunter-gatherers, maybe we wouldn't the weather being permitted that there's a lot more leafy green stuff to eat.
[00:43:10] We happen to find this Valley that's full of great stuff. That's not poisonous. And and we just don't feel like chasing Buffalo today. So we all just gonna default to what's easiest. It's going to eat stuff. But if you're not going to do that for the rest of your life, especially once the winter comes you're not gonna do.
[00:43:24] So yeah, yeah. Yeah the work by Greg Prescott with Mel about metabolic typing and then the Weston a price Institute and him Weston a price himself and talked about that. But that's an interesting point to bring up like you can't get to think or you know, the right kind of bioavailable think we need from from plant-based foods and there's a there's a big thing when it comes to the zinc and copper balance and that totally makes sense if we overload copper in the brain it can be.
[00:43:52] Similar to having mercury poisoning, you know Mad Hatter like mad as a Hatter that term came from when you know Hatter's actually [00:44:00] use mercury when they were pressing and making hats and that mercury got into the brain and they became a little bit crazy up. So I'm not saying that all these people are crazy.
[00:44:09] If we don't get me wrong, but it's there's a I guess it well, well well, but wait a minute now, wait a minute now. I know you're not saying it and I'm not saying every vegan is crazy. But I believe that every vegan who's been a vegan for years. Definitely definitely has some mental issues and I this is not me so December of 2015 Psychology today did an article.
[00:44:38] About a study and the name of the study was why do vegans have greater mental illness than omnivores. Did you ever hear that study? I have you. Okay, so and they were they came up with for plausibility, 's they couldn't they could because this study wasn't the study was using [00:45:00] research that already existed.
[00:45:02] They didn't put people in a metabolic Ward and say okay you just going to eat vegetables went to Watch What Happens so. They said it's either a many people are attracted to the vegan diet because they already have illnesses which is true, right? Oh, man, I just feel so horrible. I just don't feel good anymore.
[00:45:20] And and well you got to go vegan you'll feel better. Okay, so they already have a problem number two was which they felt was the greatest plausibility because of the nutrient deficiencies and imbalances that occur the longer you are vegan. Number two number three was I'm going to I got to think about this.
[00:45:41] I used to know these by heart, but I really don't recite them that much anymore, but there were four of them. The other one was. That vegans are hypochondriacs and really the true term hypochondriac as used by [00:46:00] hypocrisy Hippocrates. Why I got yeah was it would in the gut right hypochondriac means below the ribcage and these people had problems that may have manifested as weirdness, but it was all coming from the gut Hippocrates do this and hence the word hypochondriac because we couldn't put our finger on it because it was kind of this.
[00:46:23] Function of the stomach. It wasn't one thing that they could say was wrong. And then the fourth one. I don't recall but the the most plausible one was followed and number one was the nutrient deficiencies associated with being a long term vegan followed by that all vegans become vegans because they are sick to begin with they already have problems.
[00:46:48] Yeah, and that makes sense, you know like the house. The enteric nervous system and the vagus nerve and the gut health McDuck floor and all that makes a huge impact on brain function. So there's kind of like a [00:47:00] chicken the egg thing there to I can see but most people if they're healthy eating a mixed diet and they're, you know, feeling good and Performing, you know at a respected level.
[00:47:11] They're not going to go and jump some to some extreme way of eating and doing something if they're already okayed, you know, like that's exactly. Exactly and the other day some there was a girl on Facebook who's a personal trainer and she's like she her Facebook page says public figure and she was doing a Facebook live and I just happened to click and look and I was listening very attractive girl, and she's talking about cravings and and and how Cravings she was talking about cravings and I posted in her.
[00:47:49] Thread their microbes and microbial dysbiosis drives Cravings Cravings cause you to eat [00:48:00] the foods that your microbes want and she deleted it. Oh well, so then I came back because I thought she surely someone would have said something about that and realize she had deleted it. So I posted it again.
[00:48:11] I said she I thought I posted before that. It's your microbes that drive. Because this was antithetical to what she was saying, you know her thing was you know Cravings or because you're sad, you know, you're this you're that and it's not and proof of what I'm saying is already out there but nothing told me I was right about this more than when I did my second show and we're going to do a third show very shortly.
[00:48:40] I did my second show about LL 3 7 and I had an anonymous Guy come on the show and say that for the past years. He has been after work hitting the bourbon like big time and he actually about about five or six months ago admitted to himself. I guess. I'm just a functioning [00:49:00] alcoholic because I can't go without Bourbon and after being on LL 3 7 for two weeks.
[00:49:07] He did not crave alcohol anymore. He just stopped drinking. And huge that is so huge and I said to him I said this just tells me I'm right that you had microbes in your gut that wanted the brain to make your hand lift the glass of alcohol and drink it to feed them. They were making chemicals that went to your brain that made you crave alcohol and once you killed them.
[00:49:35] You didn't eat nothing was telling your brain to drink the alcohol anymore. I mean, what else do you need to prove that if you crave the wrong Foods if you crave sugars, it's because your gut has microbes and possibly fungi that you need sugar to survive and they're sending chemicals to your brain to say feed me like a little planter and that Little Shop of Horrors planned [00:50:00] feed me.
[00:50:01] Yeah, the science is pretty solid with that to you know, like one of my Educators in functional medicine nutrition. They used to call them. I think tiny mindbenders great because they they influence how you think and how you feel and what you crave and because there's so much of them in there.
[00:50:24] They're actually. Trying to survive and if there's a bunch of microbes in your gut that are trying to survive and what they need is, you know a certain food or a certain drink, you know, or whatever macro nutrients. They need to deliberate the grow more. They're going to make you do that and parasites do that to animals all the time a pair of cycling attached to or even fungi can attach to an animal and completely change an animal's behavior and make it eat or crave or do things that would have naturally do.
[00:50:55] And that's a good point about fungi. Right? So when I have these [00:51:00] conversations with people about fungi. About how they can actually be mindbenders. I love that word. I'm going to use that. Thank you. How about yeah how they can be mindbenders and there and they look at me like that doesn't and then I say you do know psilocybin mushrooms make you trip, right?
[00:51:21] Oh, yeah. Yeah, so let me get this straight you can believe that that fungi could alter your perception of reality to such a degree that you lose all connection to reality but you can't believe that the fungi living in your body is producing chemicals that are making you act differently or crave or causing headaches and so on and so forth.
[00:51:42] I don't understand how what the disconnect is that you can't put those two together. That's a great point. And this is another reason why I love some of these products that are coming out now where they using medicinal mushrooms cordyceps and stuff like that and [00:52:00] people think it's BS and it's like wait a minute.
[00:52:01] So you do know you can trip from eating a peyote button which is basically a fungi. It's a mushroom, but you don't think that those medicinal mushrooms can actually do anything to you. There's one very popular one right now called Lions lion's mane. I love it. Yeah, and people take it and they go man.
[00:52:23] I feel like I just had caffeine like my brain is awake. Yeah. Sure. I mean fungi can make you trip why couldn't it make you have better cognition. Yeah, and these medicinal mushrooms that are out there now are so powerful that it's no longer anecdotal. They have some studies that back it up and.
[00:52:40] You know like cordyceps. The Menses is huge for performance. The Chinese Olympic team has used it for very long time. It's actually a strange thing too because cordyceps the dentist is essentially caterpillar but fungus. It's a fungus that grows off the. The tail end of the caterpillar and who was the first [00:53:00] person to discover that I like to know but somebody lick the caterpillar obviously, right?
[00:53:03] Yeah. Well, who's that? Well who the hell ever licked the back of a frog? What about those frogs that if you lick them they secrete something it makes you trip. Yeah. Yeah, but these mushrooms now are so powerful as you know wines mean for example for neurogenesis like. It's it can heal damaged brain neurons and Pathways and do so many amazing things in the brain.
[00:53:25] And and so if that can happen, that's all those things can benefit us. Why can't these pathogenic, you know microbes in your gut cause us negative things. You know, it just makes sense. I read an article many years ago about Native Americans. So Native Americans followed the Buffalo for two reasons.
[00:53:46] They followed the buffalo. Because they were a source of sustenance. They could kill a buffalo. They could make clothing out of the skin they can and they could survive eating the buffalo meat and fat for a [00:54:00] long period of time, but they also picked the mushrooms that grew up off of the Buffaloes.
[00:54:10] And took that to experience a higher sense of awareness and you know humans have experimented with hallucinogens and alcohol. Since the beginning of recorded history at least and we know that the hallucinogens may have actually played a part in the rains Evolution, you know. I did what's that like the stone date Theory?
[00:54:42] I don't know. Is that what it's called? Tell me about it. Yeah, there's a there's a theory called The Stone date Theory how psilocybin another hallucinogens have a part in our brains growth development and evolution. It seems to be you know [00:55:00] respectable Theory. I believe it because you know what because when you look at our Evolution and you look at it's almost like I used to ask myself the question.
[00:55:12] Is it do we believe that something like going to the Moon can happen? Because we recognized early on it's in our power or does believing that we could go to the Moon make it happen. And you know, I did a lot of acid when I was in high school. I mean I tripped a lot. I mean I tripped days in a row when I was young and I've experimented with micro dosing LSD on and off for the past few years and I can tell you that I can conceptualize stuff when I'm tripping that actually does happen.
[00:55:53] Later on in life. And the one story I've told I may have told it on this show one time before because I [00:56:00] don't tell these stories too much because people start to say, oh, you know that Carl is crazy, but it was I was tripping. I was at 106 Tree Park in Queens with my buddy Mike aggress though, and it was just one of those weekend nights where we all did acid.
[00:56:16] We were sitting around listening to Pink Floyd or something like that and I remember. So I was sitting with my on a park bench with my back to the street and I imagined I could see 360 Degrees around me and in my in my mind's eye. I could see 360 Degrees around now, obviously, I knew it behind me looked like so it was easy for me to conjure up the memory of that and make it part of this but what I saw.
[00:56:44] In my brain in my mind's eye whatever you want to call. It was a concave and convex surface that were inches apart. The concave surface was all TV's [00:57:00] like television sets edge-to-edge or screens and the convex surface was a camera that created this 360 degree image. And probably around 1997. Right after my daughter Sydney was born I was watching TV and they talked about the development of this thing called an optic coupler.
[00:57:28] And the optic they show the image of the optic coupler and I thought to myself that's what I saw in my trip. When I was like 17 years old in my head, that's what allowed me to see all around me while I was sitting there on the bench listening to Pink Floyd. And you know, I tell them I'm cautious about telling this story because people will go well, how do you know you thought when you saw that you didn't have like a Deja Vu moment at a synapse that fired the wrong time and you thought that that's [00:58:00] what you know, because I carried that memory for decades before I saw that on the news.
[00:58:05] Wow. Yeah, and so it's not just people like you talking about there's a like dr. Gabor mate. He's a what he's like a he's a neurologist the psychiatrist the guy's pretty he's a big underachiever and he's talked about that too. And there's another guy coming. There's name use another piece from Harvard.
[00:58:30] He was a psychologist from Harvard and he was. Continuing some of the work that Timothy Timothy Leary left off with and they were exploring the realm of using psychedelics for clinical. Purposes to heal PTSD and Trauma, right and then these and these doctors were starting to use microdose in themselves in their work because they noticed the benefits of doing a lake a original thought [00:59:00] why I call it original thought that you can actually happen.
[00:59:02] So so I met Timothy Leary in 1987 86-82. So I was living in Las Vegas at the time. And he came to speak at UNLV. It was a cold wintry night in Las Vegas believe it or not. It was cold. And I took this girl that I was dating with me and the autonomous ham Hall at UNLV is a big venue and they were only like 20 or 30 people that showed up to hear him talk and so he had everybody move down close to the stage.
[00:59:38] And we all sat there and we listen to them talk and then after that he came down and he leaned against the stage and we all had conversations with him all of us who wanted to lot of people just left and so I told him all the different stories about my trips and I told him about trips that I had that the image has stayed with me and he said [01:00:00] to me at that time.
[01:00:01] He said that his belief. was that. LSD cause the type of neural plasticity that bypassed the corpus callosum which is the Clearinghouse the data Clearinghouse that connects the right and left hemisphere of the brain everything that the right needs to left to do goes through it and everything that the left side needs the right goes through it.
[01:00:24] He said that this that LSD actually caused nerves too. Form and go directly into each hemisphere directed from each other. So you bypass this Clearing House completely and so you can actually you actually can smell colors, you know, you can actually see words come out of people's mouths. Yeah, and so so he is so fast forward this discussion we had.
[01:00:52] Fast forward to about four or five years ago. I was at Quest Nutrition working on a project with them and Tom [01:01:00] bill you was still at Quest and he was still doing inside Quest and he had Jamie wheel. Is that his right name and so after the interview. I got to talk to Jamie wheal and I told him this story about meeting Timothy Leary and he looked at me and I thought he thought I was like being a liar.
[01:01:19] I thought he was like he looked at me and he goes so Timothy Leary told you that and 8687 I said, yeah, he goes that has just been proven in a laboratory about two years ago that that's exactly what LSD does. Now Timothy Leary tripped a lot. So he was able to conceptualize things. You know what I mean?
[01:01:40] So, I mean it's to me LSD is kind of like, you know, when you look into a mirror that's there's a mirror behind you and all of a sudden you see like the depth of like 90 images in each one reflecting off of each other making another image. That's what LSD is like to me. It's like this this [01:02:00] it's like this opening up in your brain.
[01:02:02] That allows you to see things that you normally wouldn't see it. I call it original thought it allows the birth of original thoughts for you to combine things together that normally wouldn't find their way together and go. Oh I could see how that would that would work. That's fascinating. So myself.
[01:02:19] I've only microdose with psilocybin and OST. I've never taken a full dose. But there's this guy James saddleman PhD is his name. He's. He's not the guy who was on the show a while back a few years ago talking about this either exactly everything you're saying. He's he was talking about and how this was used way back in the day with the alcohol and autonomous.
[01:02:45] Really? Yeah, Alcoholic Anonymous had a like its original founder. I can remember his name Mills Bill W build something build up. Yeah, so when he was using these psychedelics, Either in micro dosing [01:03:00] or full doses for a trip but the set and setting and everything was controlled. It wasn't just someone at a house party, you know, tripping balls and watching the walls melt in their friends face turn to a you know, an eagle or something, you know crazy like that there was actual studies and research done and he was using this to treat people with severe alcoholism and other addictions.
[01:03:24] Amazing success but his investors and alcohols. Anonymous didn't like it. So they actually kick them out of his own program that he develops and and the kind of ruined him. So there's a lot of history with this for. Addictions and opening the mind and you know increasing someone's conscious awareness and you know, it's fascinating because the College of London is actually doing a controlled study with humans on low-dose LSD for major depressive disorder and the early information coming out of the research is [01:04:00] that ssris will be a thing of the past because this will actually.
[01:04:05] Correct. People's depression. I did a show about micro dosing LSD a few years ago. And I had a guy come on my show and animus lie because he couldn't let anybody at work. No, but he had been struggling with depression since he was a teenager and he's a full he's a grown man now and he has just had a horrible existence and so he took up the gauntlet and he got some so there's a company in Canada their website is.
[01:04:35] Li Sergey.com, so it's like a play on lysergic L Ys e RG. I dot c om. And you can actually buy one p LSD from them as a quote research chemical wink wink and it has the same effect as it converts to LSD. It takes a little longer to hit you then if you took if you take acid and hit you pretty quickly.
[01:04:57] Yeah, this takes like 40 minutes to an hour to hit you [01:05:00] but the same experience and so he went ahead and he got some and he took it and it changed his life. He Chase he came on my show. We had to scramble his voice because he was afraid his employer would tune in or even if someone would recognize is he said it changed my life.
[01:05:15] I'm getting divorced. He goes. I've been with a woman that I've really not really like but I've just kind of hung he's I'm getting divorced. My life is so much better. I look forward to waking up now. I don't even remember what it feels like to be depressed. yeah, I think that me if I think there's a few mechanism called that works, but I.
[01:05:37] From what people can understand as an analogy. I think he's saying the word factory reset might be a fair. Fair thing to say that works. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Anyway, so real quick before we sign off so people can reach you at your if someone is listening to the show and they want information about advertising on the show the best way to reach you.
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[01:06:28] Happy Spring, I work at a little bit. What where how did you find physical culture? Where did it come in for you? I started off actually quite young. I was watching you know, the old Stallone Arnold Schwarzenegger movies when that was like 7 8 9 and I taped a big old cop make flashlight a tape the box and hockey pucks on it to make my own dumbbells.
[01:06:53] And yeah, but I was really sick as a young child I had. You know, I spent my almost my [01:07:00] entire childhood on antibiotics had chronic infections. I was overweight. I had all these different issues. So it's kind of like the superhero origin story is the path of the Wounded healer. So I got into the field of health and fitness and anti aging and Longevity just to heal myself and then I realized I loved it and then I made a crater and a passion and that's essentially how we got into it.
[01:07:25] Very cool. Very cool. Yeah, great story. Anyway, thanks for coming on and filling in with me. So this Friday, we will start our first come at me bro. And you probably will accompany me assuming that we have a good camera for you, but we'll start with so every other Friday every other Friday. I'll do it.
[01:07:42] Yeah, it's going to be great and people can email me at on are at superhuman radio dotnet. There is no question that I will not answer honestly none about me about me. If you ask me questions about people in my life, I'm not answering those. Those are those are for them to answer [01:08:00] but there's no question that I will not answer honestly about me.
[01:08:04] So feel free to try your best to embarrass me. And if your question embarrasses me, I'll send you a case of live on Labs vitamin C. How's that sound to tie it into the first interview. So there you go. That's great. Oh and by the way, if you don't already know, And you're not part of the email list at superhuman radio dotnet join it because we're giving away a $600 pair of Quick Change dumbbells.
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