Adam Lamb
Much of the effects of HRT for both men and women are psychological in nature. Attitudes about life, your spouse, your job. The way you "feel" greatly effects your life. The decisions you make. And the energy of which you invest in your life. Maybe you're nock lacking motivation. Maybe you just have hormones that have tanked.
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Show Notes:
[3:40] Carl and Adam discuss how HRT can give you that extra drive to get up and go, to train harder, to track your diet, and to self-improve.
[6:40] The importance of both spouses getting on HRT.
[9:42] Being ambitious in a relationship.
[13:26] HRT makes you feel young again.
- Both spouses need to feel young. If only one spouse feels young there can be further separation of the two spouses.
[17:40] “If you can make better decisions, you are going to be healthier.”
[21:50] How rejection from your spouse can affect you over time.
[27:01] Stress
- Women produce estradiol from their ovaries.
- Men have to convert other hormones into estradiol.
- Lowered estradiol can lead to stress.
- Hormonal disruption causes chronic fatigue.
- When testosterone is low, everything seems like an emergency.
- DHEA guides hormonal traffic smoothly.
[34:40] It takes about 3 weeks for TRT’s effects to wear off.
- You will eventually just want to sit around and play video games or watch television.
[37:10] The medical orthodoxy has put a fear in peoples’ minds about hormones.
- If you have the symptoms of hormonal imbalance, you have to talk to someone who knows how to help you, even if bloodwork appears fine.
[42:48] The importance of getting to bed early.
- Staying out late is a counter-productive lifestyle when it comes to hormones, health, and fitness.
[49:56] “If you don’t stand for anything, you stand for nothing.”
- Choose a clinic that is ran by people who practice what they preach.
- You wouldn’t take your car to a mechanic whose car is always broken down.
[1:00:10] Brent Jones joins the show to talk about the Kentucky Derby bodybuilding show.
- The Derby is huge. It dwarfs Mardi Gras.
- The show started in 2011.
- The people in the derby community were wary at first.
- The show grew. Last year there were ~400 competitors.
- There is no better learning experience for a bodybuilder than to do a competition.
- Developing stage presence requires you to be on stage.
- This show will have all divisions.
- It will be held at the International convention center, 2nd floor.
- Kentuckymuscle.com
- Pre-judging is 25 dollars. Finals is 30 dollars admissioin.
- The show has a new partnership with Ohio Valley Wrestling and the National Guard.
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[00:00:00] The older I get the more I look like the first one time in your life. I hate "starts with the ReNew Life Show with Adam" (intro music fired too soon). We have ghosts in the system all the hell with it. Let's bring Adam on hold on a second and play his music. Okay the first step to changing your life starts with the ReNew Life Show with Adam Lamb.
[00:00:55] It should be if you want movie star quality looks like. Hey [00:01:00] come to renew life RX.com. I don't know about that but I like that I like that term and I'll take it movie star looks like I I look at myself and I see my father and you know for the first. For the first 12 years of my life. I thought my father was the greatest guy in the world and he really was but then when I started to go through puberty, I want to rebel against him.
[00:01:27] You know what I mean? Like I want to find reasons to have Discord with him. And then when I was in my early teens my father was so cool again because he was hanging out us a lot of the same night clubs that I was hanging out at. And it had a people might think that's weird but he was hanging out with all his friends.
[00:01:46] It wasn't like they had a bunch of women around them. But I would go into these discos out in Long Island and and in the city and and people would be like, hey, come on your son's here and I'm like, oh, this is great and I saw it was it was really a lot of [00:02:00] fun. My father was a very very cool guy.
[00:02:01] And now when I look at my face I go holy crap. I look just like my father. How are you? I'm good, man. I think that we do that too and. With I think with my kids like my son or even you know, sometimes I look at myself in the mirror do something make a face. I'm like, ooh, it's my dad's face right off my son.
[00:02:20] I'll do some mannerism whether I think it reminds me of me or reminds me of my wife or even sometimes my father-in-law like goofy stuff. It's it's neat how the genetic makeup yet. They're right. It's there and mannerisms. It's Aaron looks it's there. Just behavioral. It's a super interesting. And you know, this is a great segue to the discussion today.
[00:02:41] Right? So we're going to be talking about behavior and some and an aspect and that is the the the psychological side of HRT, which may be more profound. Actually than any of its other attributes are probably things that people notice the most right? In [00:03:00] our opinion, it's it's the more important like I've said before, you know for guys that come to us that they're only focused on the aesthetic shirt dude getting better shape, you know recovery from exercise and lose some fat things like that.
[00:03:13] Yeah, that's important. Right? Everybody wants that but the guys that are like, yeah, I'm trying to gain 20 pounds of mass and get ready. Like we don't even work with those guy. We just tell them right up front like you're going to be disappointed. That's not really the values we have, you know, Well, that's not that's not what we're that's not the outcome we're looking for.
[00:03:33] I'm looking at my audio because I'm trying to get my audio added then that's not the outcome that you're looking for for them. Right so majority of our clients and you know, and so we'll talk about I'm here super noun speaker behavioral therapist, you know in his feedback. He's a physical guy. He's very athletic.
[00:03:51] But when we shared kind of what's the early stuff he's discovered. He was talking about more of the things that. Some of the psychological stuff like the [00:04:00] decision to go do a second workout of the day because he did physically had he's like I noticed I didn't know it would in her I didn't have the aches.
[00:04:09] He's like and I was like fired up to go like yeah, why not go do another workout. I feel good, you know and there's a psychological side to the to the hormone replacement therapy. That often doesn't get talked about is that that extra drive to go do the things right? Look if you're in our opinion if you're just.
[00:04:27] Turn to a low men or women your week with your decisions. Right and if you're weak with your decisions, you're going to make bad decisions, right? You're gonna make easy to yeah, because you're not fully in you're not you're not really dedicated yet. You might skip the workout you might grab that, you know, eat the dessert or eat the for just go home and sit in the chair and watch television instead, which is really what as you age.
[00:04:51] You just look to sit more and because you don't want to be reminded that you don't feel good moving around. Like you used to like you have to take some pains [00:05:00] and you have weaknesses that you didn't notice and then when you get on HRT that stuff just goes away. Yeah, and you're like looking to do go do more things.
[00:05:09] And so it's it's awesome. And that's really the focus with our client base. Like I told you before is there are folks that are paying attention to what they're eating right? There are exercising regularly, you could ask them. They could tell you what they did. It doesn't mean they're not doing.
[00:05:27] Bodybuilder workouts, but they're exercising regularly, right? They're made they're going for runs or whatever and they're and they're aware of like their growth in, you know, self-improvement and success in those kind of things and what they noticed is they notice that they're they know there's more for them.
[00:05:44] They know that they could be there's something missing and that's where we hit home runs all the time because we look at the blood work or look at your health. You're obviously you told me what you eat why you eat, you know that whether they're on a Paleo diet or keto diet look all the skill like they're paying attention.
[00:05:59] They're [00:06:00] measuring focusing on things which is so we don't have to do that part. We just look. Oh, yeah, but your testosterone, you know, a quarter of work should be in our opinion based on some of the other indicators we get that up. Three weeks later. They're on my gosh. I feel like a million bucks.
[00:06:15] Thank you so much and move on check your blood work periodically well and and aside the psychological side of HRT is so profound. It's so profound that if you're a husband or a wife getting on HRT, you sincerely need to talk to your spouse about getting it on HRT with you because here's what happens.
[00:06:36] It happened to me. It was really like I my marriage was really in bad. Cape because of a lot of bad decisions we made financially and that put a lot of pressure on us to generate money and we became miserable people and we hated each other. This is true. So here's just get what's [00:07:00] that? A lot of the two reasons for divorce are.
[00:07:08] Dissatisfaction with sex with your partner and financial problems. And if you talk to women they'll tell you well when there's financial problems. I don't feel like having sex and guys alike when I'm not having sex. I don't feel like going out there and slaying the dragon and making more money. And so it's really it's really a weird thing.
[00:07:28] Right? But here's the here's the irony of. So if you get on HRT by yourself and your spouse doesn't all of a sudden you have this renewed interest in life decision this this, you know idea that there's still more to discover Life is worth living. I want to be active. Let's go do things but that other person they have a maid that that they haven't come over to the Sunny Side yet.
[00:07:53] They're still in the dark side there still like you jackass like I don't want to do anything. I worked all week and we go. [00:08:00] When you're when you're motivated and you're fired up and you're in the presence of somebody who's not you make them feel even worse, right? Yeah, he loves company and when no longer the company, the misery doesn't have company.
[00:08:10] It makes him feel more. Misery. I went to a therapist. I would lift. You're going to love this. This is this this actually crystallizes what you're saying. So I went to a marriage counselor right at the time that we were pretty much getting divorced. I had already moved out of the house. And so we went to a marriage counselor to try to see what could be salvaged and this marriage counselor sat and listened to us for one hour.
[00:08:36] I don't remember what I said, and I don't remember what my ex-wife said. But I remember the marriage counselor said I see what the problem is. And your lipstick she said no. She said she said. Me you got younger. And she looked at my ex-wife and said and you stayed old and my ex-wife got so angry at that.
[00:08:57] She bristled she stood up and she said that's a [00:09:00] bunch of and she said the word BS and she just walked out and I looked at her and I said because I had gone from 330 pounds to like 245 pounds hyper muscular. I was training I felt good. I was sleeping good. I was getting up early in the morning. I was attacking the day I was.
[00:09:17] Like my libido was through the roof which was torture with a partner who really didn't want to have any encounter with me anyway, and so but she saw it. She said, oh I see what happened. You got younger and you stayed old. That's exactly what she said. I'll never forget a my ex-wife chose that shows that woman by the way, and I think that that's a good point though that in, you know in relationships even business relationships, you know, we just we relaunch its themself.
[00:09:47] Can one of the conversations that one of the business partners I had was that like we are so ambitious. We are we have a rule of you know, don't don't try to play little [00:10:00] only play Big, you know, and we had goal we talked about that in 10 years from now. We want to look back at us and laugh at how small we may have thought we could we could do and the reason I share that is because what you're saying applies in every relationship if you are not both like willing to grow.
[00:10:15] Be better optimize your life as you get older if you just settle for whatever is your trouble, you know, and that's why I'm very fortunate in my marriage where my wife and I she's in a leadership role. She her and I are always reading different books, you know and like sharing that engaging in that because we are equally focused on getting better staying healthy staying youthful making it important like she's actually the first one I've ever dated with girlfriends.
[00:10:41] I had in the past. They didn't like you go to the gym too much you exercise too. And it was a conflict in the relationship because they were disappointed at the time. I dedicate it to myself or going to the gym where it wasn't to them right where then when I got was somebody who did understand that.
[00:10:58] It's like yeah, you got to do it. [00:11:00] We understand this a priority, but they all those different things like you're saying the big part of it is being with a partner. That wants to share the same things. You want to share right? Like we like different You music my life. My wife loves 80 hairband 80s hair band stuff.
[00:11:15] I can't stand it. But fuck if they're like Flock of Seagulls. Yeah, we want super food. Like I'm a boy. I'm a bull in a china shop and she's a ballerina, right but we're very much. We very focused on how we want to raise our children long-term, you know, like values and things like that and that helps have that good.
[00:11:36] Get the tying it all back to your point is that we see it and we love when couples like when someone's like hey, I want my wife to come on. I'm going to tell you real quick, which actually cool this conversation is a guy who came over from your show wife just started today. So to your point, it's neat to have that just a circle situation is is he's been with us for three four [00:12:00] months or whatever and he's like, hey, I wanna introduce you to my wife.
[00:12:02] She's going to start her bro. She's going to start we'll start next week. She just decide to move forward today and but to your point, that's a that's a smart couple. Yes, you're making wise decisions where he's like, she's either she's looking at him, you know a Bravo for her for probably looking at him and going man.
[00:12:19] What is this? Newfound Love For Life you have I want some right close to saying what's this newfound love for you think you're better than me. You're right to good those kind of things right? Because we have those options like logically to make and we what we know is that the one that says man, that's looks great.
[00:12:35] I want to be a. That is the positive person. The one that says man, you look happy that makes me more mad is not right. And so I love when when we have the husband-wife combo get on board because we see more success right like not only is it potentially we may have someone. Against hormone replacement therapy on the back side, right?
[00:12:58] And obviously we're but when [00:13:00] everybody's on board, we're helping facilitate following up hold them accountable those kind of things and husband and wife and both of maybe you're getting on the call and we're like, we love that stuff. It works really well. So to your point your arms that correct the success we see with couples both doing it together is way better because the and that's because of.
[00:13:20] The psychological aspect of HRT when you when all of a sudden from a psychological standpoint you shift back into a more youthful Persona you start acting like you did when you were in your 20s and. I mean we all know like when you were a kid and you come on Grandpa leave me alone. Come on, Grandpa.
[00:13:43] Well, let me alone. Right so all of a sudden you shift back into being a younger. Hey, let's go walk in the park this afternoon. Leave me alone. It's like it doesn't jive both people must get on HRT and both must revert back to that [00:14:00] youthful Persona, so that the marriage Will Survive and pride quite frankly.
[00:14:05] It'll. He thrived because you'll have the energy mental and physical to court your wife. Again. Your wife will have the mental and physical energy to want to be courted and have desire again, and you both had that when you met. But that energy age you lost it and then all of a sudden two weeks you get it back and you he better bring her with you it was see it on both sides.
[00:14:32] I mean I can think off the top my head just a woman I spoke with yesterday who she came to us. She just wasn't super hot, you know, like just didn't like the world right just and we were like we looked at it more like everything's you're healthy your testosterone just lower than it probably should be right her OBGYN disagreed.
[00:14:50] Yeah, they always do better. The biggest is too rich for women, is that ignoring their testosterone but in so nothing got better that [00:15:00] you know, she basically didn't like the idea but had no solution and I was like, well, I'll try it. You don't like it, you know, you can always just go back to doing nothing and you know it one of the main reasons.
[00:15:09] She also said that she shared she's like, you know, My husband's got a good libido. He's healthy fit like, you know, we're attracted stuck. I just don't have the interest and now she does Right In following up. She's like, yeah, we're back on par, right? So it's many women to one do it and we see a lot with guys to that have they've let things slide right since they were the college athlete or whatever and they were fit and doing all these things in life gets in the way and they're busy and kids and all that stuff and maybe wife is still in the mood and.
[00:15:41] Still taking care of herself and she still has that energy and you know husband is like and so these guys will come on board so they can get and there's got to be there's got to be a lot of those and I'll tell you why I know there's a lot of the word. Yeah, and because all the men's clinics they're all their [00:16:00] advertising today has shifted from trying to talk to the guys to come in and it's shifted to the women saying, you know, my husband finally went to The Men's Clinic and our lives.
[00:16:11] Back to normal. So they that must be a bigger Factor women must be much more dissatisfied with their sex lives with their men then vice versa because all these Men's Clinic solder advertising now is you know, hey girl, if you're not happy in bed get your man to The Men's Clinic and then the girl goes.
[00:16:32] Oh, my life is back to normal again. So that's got to be a big deal. I have I mean all the time I have looked where I'm somewhere in like the wife is like tugging my shirt like a talk to my husband, you know, that's like audible like and I could probably I look at that, you know honesty and I'll go situation like she's probably also creating a stressful environment that if your wife is pestering you you're never going to be like relaxed want to perform too.
[00:16:56] But but I can receive such happen forever, you know, as [00:17:00] long as I've been the space where we're folks have asked, you know, the wife is like hey haven't talked to you know. How do you it's hard but I try to create a comfortable space to have those conversations, but you know, even beyond that what we're talking about with the psychological side of hormone replacement therapy is that you know, one of the questions that when folks have been on for maybe two weeks or so.
[00:17:21] We asked them. You know, how are you feeling? How is your mood? How are you sleeping? How was your decision making how is your feelings to go do something? Right and it makes them think right. Is I didn't ask him. How is your recovery in the gym Howard, you know those things because we want to see some of these other changes in your life that really change your life because if we can help you make better decisions, you're going to be healthier happier, right?
[00:17:50] It's simple seven this ecology piece, which was really cool. Like I said that it's pretty renowned behavioral therapist be kind of motivational speaker guy. That's a client of ours who were talking [00:18:00] to and digging into that. He's and experts was able to dig through the psyche. You that he's experiencing in that space of what he's like noticing about himself where he he was even saying things like being more going back to the spouse thing.
[00:18:16] Just more playful maybe like kind of lowlife goofing around wrestling around on the couch. You know, you were maybe it's she don't have that little bit of energy, you know, like I think of I think often to going back to we're talking about the women often, you know, guys, we just were physical right really come here.
[00:18:31] Let me grab your button. Let's go women. Little more playing. I want a little more romance. They want connection here. So the so once again, you know, so men can't feel close to a woman unless they're having sex with her and women can't have sex with the man unless they feel close to him will connect it.
[00:18:54] So the irony is that we both need the same things for different reasons men need to in order for a [00:19:00] man to feel connected to a girl or a woman. He has to be sleeping with her in order for a woman to be connected to a garage to sleep with a guy. She's got to be connected. So there's this gentleman.
[00:19:11] Meshing of these two phenomenons that have brought upon by hormones hormones are the great mediators. That's what makes the guys move forward in the women move forward and not sit back and go I don't feel connected to you. I'm not having sex with you. So and I don't even have the energy the thought, you know, like there could be maybe you're sitting there.
[00:19:31] You're like man, I would love to just climb over there in the couch and. Just my wife and grabbed her hand and maybe that leads to that thing that we both want but what she doesn't want us to me to stand up and like pull it out and say hey want to get in the bedroom, you know, Ryan she went back.
[00:19:47] How about but by God, I can't hear the other side of that from a guy's perspective. Right? So you feel it. And you and you do something like you would have done in your 20s, you're sitting there watching television you roll over you, you know, you [00:20:00] straddle her you come down you start making out with her and she and she doesn't.
[00:20:04] Go with it. She's like come on stop. I'm watchin this TV show. That's like that destroys a man that destroys a girl. Well, it really does and I think that for me when I you know, my wife her favorite thing is when I'm more playful. Yeah kissing Itachi, right and my favorite thing if she's like, hey, you know kids are upstairs playing what you get, you know, get in bathroom where the yeah, so it's like we'd like those different things, but we also have that.
[00:20:34] Understanding that she knows that that's important to me makes me feel like hot stud attractive because a guy wants to feel that way a guy wants to feel that his woman if nobody else in the whole planet feels that way that his woman wants wants him. She literally wants him. Right right and and that to me like nothing.
[00:20:55] Gets me more makes me feel better about myself. Yes [00:21:00] and that feeling and it like used to but it all does go back to if your hormones are low both sides. It's you can mentally be like, I wish I wanted to like just swoop you up and and give you that passion and I think that's where it and that's where angry old man comes from here.
[00:21:19] And also with women it if their hormones are low to and I know that maybe even if I may. Stir up the effort, right and I could go to scoop her up and like hey, come here. I love you. Let's you know we got some time. Let's have some intimate time type thing and not lose say that way but you go on receiving it and then she might she might not feel it and then the guy feels rejected and then it yes what happened to move apart and every time that happens every time that happens every time that happens five six seven times in a month.
[00:21:51] Where you make an over you you make an overture and you're rejected from a guy standpoint you get to the point where [00:22:00] I'm not doing it anymore. I'm not going to do that. And now you get angry at your partner because you feel like they keep rejecting you the reality is it's not that she wants to reject you.
[00:22:11] She just doesn't genuinely have the drive. I have a good friend and his wife just retired and. They were they were very very sexually active their whole lives the past few years. She's like 65. She's never gone on HRT and she keeps telling them. Come on. Leave me alone. I'm an old woman now. I'm an old lady now.
[00:22:31] Leave me alone. And I think that is so sad because to her she's an old lady because she doesn't have the desire and also he confided in me. He said, you know when we do make love she doesn't get wet anymore, and it's. Aim for for her like these are real problems. They can all be addressed. They could all be a good our graph.
[00:22:53] I'll be fixed. It's just a matter of getting outside your comfort zone and being [00:23:00] comfortable with having conversations with folks that can help make that happen. Right really really can be done. And that's what leads to that healthy happy life that you don't just otherwise, you're slowly just partying, you know, next thing, you know, you're like, I don't even know who this person is.
[00:23:14] I climb into bed with every night and I don't even care. You want to be I'll be your every single relationship that ends up in divorce goes through that where I don't even recognize this person anymore. But the truth is they don't recognize themselves. The reason guys in my humble opinion become Grumpy Old Men is because they sexual prowess is one of the biggest things for a man's ego.
[00:23:38] The fact that his woman desires him and he can do what he does and make her feel good. I am man. He beat your chest. I mean, that's Primal that's part of us and when you lose your libido and your erections don't work anymore. You don't feel like a man anymore. So what do you have to do? You know, it's it's the it's the oldest [00:24:00] animals in the in the forest that are the most dangerous.
[00:24:04] They're the ones that will attack unprovoked and that's the same thing with Grumpy Old Men. They don't feel good anymore. They don't feel good about themselves anymore. And so the littlest thing there I'll smack the crap out of you that doesn't have to be either. They just get on HRT. And that changes.
[00:24:24] Do you love life again? You you you don't become a raging idiot. You actually turn off the Raging it. Yeah, and I think that you know to your point taking a few steps back to with with that situation where because I've had clients to that have they've had maybe that spouse who's like not so into it and they try and then you know, if you've ever been with somebody who was kind of wasn't really into the.
[00:24:51] The sex that you're having and you can tell that it's like they're like, alright, what is this going to be over with you know like that kind of thing and then I'll send your stuff [00:25:00] doesn't work because you're not as turned on anymore. And then your and then what happens is now this guy may have a complex of hey why what's wrong with me things went South and why doesn't she want me and so then every sexual encounter after that, they're thinking what's if this doesn't performer.
[00:25:18] What's it? Maybe she doesn't like the size of this or. Whatever it could you know, yeah guys guys guys. We overthink everything. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, we got imagine like I talked to hundreds of men about not all you know, I would say half of my clients have zero I've ever even mention directorial issues but a lot of guys do and we have those conversations in a lot of the times going through a conversation.
[00:25:40] We figure out does it work? Then there's something that there's something in your head that's causing those problems right now is a psychological Point. Yeah, and yeah almost always it's anxiety stress something that self-induced and a lot of times I think we talked about last show where there's nighttime erections or those kind of things when the when [00:26:00] the cortisol is lower stress is low.
[00:26:02] You're not thinking about all that stuff that that happens. I had the same conversation with a guy and he was saying well, you know. It's cute. It was explained as you're not stressed at night and it but there's still times it I'm stressed and I might wake up at four o'clock in the morning because I got a big meeting or some big deadline where I'm also stress.
[00:26:21] I'm not waking up with a morning Rex. I'm waking up with like a crying because my mind is still going a little bit but sometimes it can relax at night and it would basically the point of making is that if things work there's probably something you got to dress yourself and no one wants to do that, you know, and.
[00:26:36] Going part of this conversation the psychological side of hormone replacement therapy is we can do so much but like if you're just negative or you just see the bad or you're just looking for the problem. It's hard to take in but chances. Are you have been that way your whole life chances? Are you've been that way your whole life, right.
[00:26:55] So that's that's a different scenario, but I want to talk about stress for a minute. [00:27:00] So men produce estradiol by converting. Women produce a dial directly from their ovaries and estradiol is a very very powerful anxiety lytic molecule. It actually suppresses anxiety and you have women women typically say, you know, I used to be able to deal with stress so much.
[00:27:22] Now the littlest thing shakes me up. Yeah because you're starting to produce less estradiol and man. It's the same thing when men's testosterone and estradiol ratios get out of whack they start to. Have greater stress response little things shake them up like and I remember this so my HRT was was provoked by performance-enhancing drugs and my testosterone levels never coming back.
[00:27:51] So I waited two years before getting on HRT. I tried clomiphene. I tried HCG. I tried aromatase Inhibitors. I tried all the different things that [00:28:00] I could that I was hoping would restore my natural testosterone. Well, I really said to myself. Okay, it's over. I'm going to be on something for the rest of my life those two years.
[00:28:12] I remember one day I was in the car and I got like into this provoking exchange with another car not really road rage, but my heart started pounding so hard and I remember thinking myself man if I had to get out of the car and fight right now. I wonder if I'd have a heart attack because I didn't have that hormonal emergency brake going not everything's cooled.
[00:28:34] We got this. We got this. When your hormones are in at the right levels you look at things in life. And you go I got this when your hormones are not at the right level you look at little things in life and go I can't take this anymore. Yes a hundred percent. I mean that without a doubt you summarized it and I can take a deeper dive because this is something we really talked about, you know, some of the major things we talk about you mentioned estradiol.
[00:29:00] [00:29:00] DHEA super overlooked testosterone and sex hormone-binding globulin, right? And so those are the four major things that we talked about and I explain it. You know, we work with folks that are necessarily is well-versed in conversations like we are in the hormones. And we do this intentionally having that conversation to where it's not the Doctor Who's Talking the doctor terms and all that kind of stuff necessarily explaining it because it goes over people's head and then they're like, I don't know the hell that guy just said, right and so what part of our model is being able to communicate this in a way that's almost playful that's understanding that for.
[00:29:40] Everyone really and one of the things we say is that your body's got these hormone think of it like traffic, right if they all these hormones everything's doing different and when something happens like a fire truck, right and if rush hour traffic, it causes concern right and if you have which meaning let's say it's cortisol adrenaline things like that, [00:30:00] and those hormones are firing.
[00:30:01] And traffic lights are out to right and no one knows where to go. Everyone knows the merge everybody. It's just its Tail's disrupt rights going on in your mind. Right which results in chronic fatigue. You don't want to do anything, you know, your bad mood all this stuff right until we look at is it number one two stops her own we need to get up and when the testosterones up, that's the confident like like you said I got this.
[00:30:28] Okay, we'll be fine. We'll sort this out, right so. Happened. You don't have to send in the fire truck. You don't have to send in the ambulance. Right? So when those cortisol levels don't even pop up like they would if you weren't confident if you didn't got if you didn't already have this, right and so there's less fight or flight and it was explained.
[00:30:46] This is just sidebar staring at this woman. So we sent over her results and blood work and like let's schedule a time to talk right? It was like 9 o'clock at night and she just called and I'm like. [00:31:00] Yeah, what's 8? How are you? She's like, oh, it's like about myself and I'm like, is there something urgent to you're worried about?
[00:31:05] No, I just want to talk about and I'm like, okay, but we got schedule. It's nine o'clock at night. I got to put my kids in bet, you know, and she and right and my wife's like hey, I got it. I was like, okay, you know it, you know, it looks so. Because this is a perfect example for me to explain to her the poor importance of her super low testosterone for her age.
[00:31:23] And I said and I said for example, do you live a life that everything's an emergency Ryan's important and she said no no. No I said, yes you do. You just called me at nine o'clock at night from an email. You received 40 seconds ago it in an emergency. That's an emergency. Right? It's it didn't say call anytime.
[00:31:43] Yeah, we mean it took precedence. Schedule for whatever you were planning on going you. You're right. Exactly. Right? And so the point I was making to hers that what I'm just telling explain to you is going on in her life. Every text that goes off every ping pong ping, you know everything for us, [00:32:00] especially in the society.
[00:32:00] It's an emergency. We got to do it right away when you're constantly doing that you're constantly disrupting that those that the hormone process that cortisol levels are spiking that fight-or-flight. Adrenaline is going to the point to where. And if you're you know at that later age or you're in a position of your hormones are optimal that that's going to pound you all day.
[00:32:21] And you're going to feel like you had those days that realized it was crazy. When you look at it. You're like really the I didn't do that much. I just let everything affect me so much, right so we get to stas thrown up. And then the other thing that DHEA is a simple almost childish analogy for what it does.
[00:32:39] Ichi helps is like that police officer and the four-way stop the light trap the traffic's out but this guy's out there blowing his whistle. He's like, all right Courtney one of cortisol testosterone. Go ahead. I stirred a little you can come through it and it gets everything going where it's supposed to go.
[00:32:56] Yeah, right. So when you go to sleep at night that course on [00:33:00] the town that comes up in the more all that stuff that's supposed to happen happens in DHEA really helps the Harmony and the communication of the home. Right. So we see like we can look at blood work. Sometimes we see low testosterone low DHEA high shbg and we're like, you're a stressed-out mess, aren't you there?
[00:33:18] Like yep, cool. We're going to fix it or not. If you look at your boss tell that you are all right and with and we'll make some changes to it and then next thing you know, they're like, yeah things are just easier. I'm more likely to want to go out to hang out with friends and I'm more likely to go take that walk that maybe I would have talked myself out of.
[00:33:36] I would have done everything I could write. Those are the psychological things that help you get the results that you want, right? It's that you're not going to lose 8% body fat in the first 30 days of doing hormone replacement therapy if you don't change things in your life, but if you're excited about changes in your life and you're excited about this newfound love for life, you're more likely to skip the [00:34:00] carbs or your more take the walk or whatever might be that could be of holding you back and even.
[00:34:05] Relationship you might be more likely to just think you know, honey, you're so beautiful and like a little playful smack in the but that you would have not had the confidence or courage. Yes that she would never go. Hey cool that lights a little spark that maybe bedtime later on. There's something that happens as it happened a long time, right and and all that stuff.
[00:34:24] That's the stuff that we're trying to curate with with our clients because it changes people's lives and makes people happier, right and don't look at this comment. Look at this comment from John. He's listening to the show live. He said my wife and I will be getting with Adam real soon. He's been off testosterone for three weeks.
[00:34:42] That's about so about three weeks is how long it takes but whatever testosterone you were using to have to stop having any influence on your body. And it says it's your thing. Go special. Yeah, he's been off test for three weeks. It sucks. No libido just don't want to do [00:35:00] anything. But sit on the couch and play video games.
[00:35:03] So this is this is exactly. We're talking about here's a live human being attesting to what we're saying here. And so and we will get back on testing in two weeks. His testosterone levels will rise and he'll feel like being involved in life again. Yeah, it's so simple. I don't understand. I just don't understand people who are reluctant to try hormone replacement therapy.
[00:35:28] Try it. I mean how you've tried. You try everything else. You try vegan diets in the keto diet. You try you buy supplements that do nothing for you like try HRT and look if it doesn't work give it give it six months and or even three and if you don't go wow, this is amazing then go, you know, I'm not going to spend this one and what they do with folks that come over we look at their blood work and I'm like you had the symptoms that really just want to check my blood.
[00:35:58] The don't start, you know what? I [00:36:00] mean? What we tell them every one of my best friend's is also a business partner of mine with it with the company that the guy just doesn't he's like no man. I'm still chasing my wife Brown. I'm playing tennis three four days a week. I'm like, you know, we look at his blood with every year we get it done and we have a lot of folks like that.
[00:36:13] But I also have friends of mine till your point. It's almost like they're a little scared and I'm like dude you I saw you go out drink six by because I'm Ryan Fletcher. Thank you hormone replacement therapy paid like that poisoning. Yes, there's no purpose. But you're scared to do this. That's like proven he's you know in a lot.
[00:36:31] I will be a lot of my clients are there and I'm like if these folks do it, right like, you know, why would you wear you still hesitating? What are you scared of and sometimes I think back to the psychological side is a lot of times people are scared of actually having to pursue all the great things.
[00:36:51] They may want to go do right there man. I don't know that that's it. I gotta be honest with you Adam. I think that a lot of it has to do. The artificial fear [00:37:00] that the medical author Doxie has put in people's minds about anything that is a hormone for melatonin, you know down to testosterone. I really do I think people go because people say that they'll say to me well, isn't that a hormone like is it that lead you're putting in your body?
[00:37:20] Like isn't that a hormone? You're using? Yeah, what's wrong? These are hormones that were in your body your whole life. Why wouldn't you want to keep them in your body longer? Yeah, why don't you want to feel great, you know and even sometimes it I think people are concerned that it's a monetary challenge or you know going The Physician Insurance route can also be a challenge and it can sometimes I even to the point where you're talking earlier about making the.
[00:37:49] Maybe making the initiative towards your wife and she shuts you down. Maybe they're scared. They're going to make that the initiative to the doctor. The doctor is going up you're fine. Right [00:38:00] and that's something we really talk about is what your blood number if you have the symptoms. You got to talk to somebody knows what they're talking about.
[00:38:07] That isn't necessarily going to just judge the conversation based on your blood work. We're going to judge a conversation based on how you feel right and figure out, you know, like I said that the thing with shbg to just a certain ratio is so important because you might have a 500 to stash her own but your shbg 655 and that's not good.
[00:38:27] Right and we know we know that that 20 to 30 that to one ratio is usually the sweet spot for people in general. Typically, you might have been a guy who was it 1800 when you were 21 or 22 and now you're at 7:00, so you don't feel good. Right if you were genetically 850 guy and now you're at 350 make sense, right?
[00:38:48] It's everybody's everybody's very very different these ranges that are on blood work. Do not dictate where you were when you felt great, right and that doctor the doctor May tell you different because of that [00:39:00] range, you're fine. You wouldn't have gone in there mustered up the courage if you. Didn't feel good.
[00:39:06] I want to I want to take a break and when we come back I want to talk about something else that I think is very important and I think a lot of HRT clinics and doctors. Don't talk about it. And you're gonna have to wait till the other side of the commercial Tod what I have to say. We're doing good radio.
[00:39:24] Hi, so if you want to learn more about how you can change your life people always looking for ways to change your lives. I got to wait for you to change your life for the better. Go to renew life are x.com. It all starts there. Stay tuned. Welcome back to the ReNew Life RX show. So without outing anybody I have a lot of friends with doctors and quite a few of them have HRT clinics.
[00:39:54] And so there's this one doctor that I've been trying to do a couple things with for quite some time and Elise has been [00:40:00] trying to schedule dinner with he and his wife. So the four of us can go out in a casual atmosphere and I can share some of these ideas that I have with him. And. They were only ever able to go out during the week and I don't know about you, but I got a feeling you're going to relate to this like I don't go out during the week as a rule.
[00:40:22] I work long hours and then I generally am still working at home. Excuse me. I try to watch. An hour of TV at night of shows that we've taped documentaries or highbrow stuff from BBC and all that sort of stuff and I'm in bed at nine o'clock. Like a lot of people think that that's weird. And so this this one doctor's wife.
[00:40:48] This is like the third time we've canceled or fourth because she wants to get together on a Monday night or Tuesday night. She wants to eat dinner at seven o'clock or eight o'clock. [00:41:00] And like my last meal is at six o'clock. I'm a militant about it and I'm in bed by nine o'clock. I'm militant about that and you know what?
[00:41:07] I demand a lot out of my body for 61 year old guy. I trained hard I work hard. I have a full life. We move a lot. We do a lot of projects. We have a garden we have pool we have you know, we're and believe me at least it does more of the household stuff than I do. I'm not taking credit for that, but I help.
[00:41:26] And so we had to cancel again Tuesday night and we're like do you guys ever do anything on the weekends? And so I guess Eliza said, you know we have to cancel because we're in bed at nine o'clock and she message back. Wow, you guys are really serious about this and I'm like what you guys own a clinic?
[00:41:51] I'm sure you tell your patients about all the importance of having your last meal. Three hours before going to sleep and being in bed at a reasonable time like [00:42:00] between 9 and 10 and yeah, we're serious about this. We believe it really does work. You know, it's like we don't just tell other people that this is what you should I don't just say hey you do this, but I'm gonna go over here and do that.
[00:42:14] Right, right, right for sure and I'm sure you're the one for me too. You know, we try we look at it like my wife and I try to get out on a like tonight's Thursday will go till we call it happy hour and go grab like tonight. We're in get sushi will go up 5. 35 30 something like that for an hour and we need to do it because we need to get out of our house away from the kids right to connect because we have stupid busy schedules like crunchy like today, you know, I didn't even know where she was at saqqara.
[00:42:46] I'm leaving but I'll be back tonight and like playing cards. She's like, well I changed my mind I'm driving, you know, it's tough. Like we don't really know we have to connect. Otherwise, we like lose track, but and it's just a good opportunity to get out but for us in the [00:43:00] weekends will do. You know, we'll try to get out same thing some of the weekends to let something like for example, my son's soccer.
[00:43:07] He's got four soccer games got a tournament Saturday. I'm not doing shit Saturday night. All right, I'm going to be whooped right, you know throw this fucking second and second. So a lot of times on the weekends you that's our recharge time. I think to your point of, you know, going out during like on a Monday or Tuesday during the week those kind of things that are staying out late.
[00:43:26] It's kids stuff, you know, like that's for people in their 20s. We want to want Adam. That's what you and I say because that's what you and I did in our 20s, but the reality was we would have fared a lot better in life had we done what we do now in our 20s had we gone to sleep early and got up early and trained and and bypassed the Saturday night Sunday night, all-you-can-drink parties.
[00:43:51] And you know, we did that because that was like a rite of passage for being in your 20s, but right this this lifestyle, That [00:44:00] we have chosen to live and we have chosen to profess to others because it will improve their lives as well. I'm serious as a heart attack about it. I mean, I don't do this because you know, there's a lot of guys out there who talked about health and fitness because they feel that it's a place for them to build their business, you know, talk about testosterone talk about health talk about training.
[00:44:28] Being talked about and and then and then two three four years later, they're gone up the road because well, they became interested in blockchain and and cryptocurrency. So now that's the new thing like this is 14 years for me. This is the rest of my life for me because this is what I plan on doing to live for the rest of my life and it's a great point because I think when I was a kid, like I'm talking high school.
[00:44:53] I had our the football coach had me in the weight training class. Being his assistant and second are weight [00:45:00] training class had me in the men's condition class while the athletes because he wanted me in there helping to show these guys some proper lifting stuff telling them what to eat because it was my passion fruit.
[00:45:09] I was barely graduated high school because I wasn't good at that stuff, but I knew more than anyone else in that high school about proper nutrition diet drinks for conditioning Ryan that I just felt like I'm learning it. You know what I mean? And I was a guy who is I didn't play. Bicycles for it's a lot of times because I was getting in trouble but I was a hundred fifty five pounds.
[00:45:29] I could bench 365 no one else could do that bright and that will be a lot of people are like how right and so I just explained a lot of stuff but what you do my life that always been my passion, but I didn't really understand how to like create a. Out of it. And so I was in the mortgage space as a portfolio manager and that's where one of my mentors Josh link Nur is a round marketing guy.
[00:45:49] It's got awesome book called discipline dreaming. I recommend and I meet with them every now and then actually helped him with nutrition stuff. He's like, dude. Why don't you go start a business in the space? He's [00:46:00] like you're so good at it. You're so passionate. He's like you work guys like me, then we'll burn all these guys pay attention you want to work with you and that's what's got me to start the hormone thing.
[00:46:10] Just kind of because also. Same time. I knew that a lot of these high-profile people. I did some nutritional stuff on the side with couldn't find good hormone advice. And so I went on a helmet path to find it and I became the middleman and created this kind of business. That's like here's the Physicians that also want to do it.
[00:46:29] They understand the importance of it. They understand that could the service care of the patients is so important and that allows us to be blessed with these amazing people that we work with right but to your point is I'm going to do. Forever right whether it's in the stem cell space, you know my book with you know about coaching people through removing alcohol or changing their it's all about healthy people and it's all lifestyle like some people are like, I love red wine.
[00:46:55] I love when I fear chips and world clock in Napa Valley go around do a wine tasting things. [00:47:00] I'll never do that because I have to like you said a militant like there isn't I can't just have one drink my wife gets a fun. Fruity looking cool drink at some restaurant or it's like was the best margarita I've ever had.
[00:47:11] I'm not taking a sip strictly. I'm printable to something I've committed to myself right and it's the same thing like you can say with whether it's you know, like I'm not going to eat for another 10 minutes cuz I don't eat till noon and I've never really get one of our old nannies is in Taj is one of our family members basically super-sweet loves to like make food and she comes in and last morning and she's like, hey you want breakfast like me.
[00:47:36] He told him she's like I know but I'm going to ask after you know, I know and then she'll make a phenomenal breakfast some something that you would only get L. It make it at noon. That's all
[00:47:50] to your point. I can relate to that and I think it's important because if we don't just. Saying if we don't stand for anything, we stand for nothing [00:48:00] and you can't go through your life without these standards. I was just I spoke last night at church and I was explaining that to the youth group I work with and I was 16, you know explain that you have to have these lines in the sand that you can't cost because otherwise what happens is those lines get real blurry and you have no lines and the next thing you know, you lose your way of what's important to you.
[00:48:20] Whether it's a commitment to a relationship a commitment to your life to your health a commitment to your job, whatever it might be. And tie this all together through the hormone space is that I think that when your hormones are optimal and you're just us rooms where it should be we're more likely to stick to your guns on things and not waver.
[00:48:41] I agree. I agree a hundred percent and I but more importantly if you're going to charge it change if you're going to choose an HRT Clinic to work with choose a clinic that is occupied by people who actually Walk The Walk. That's my point. There are so many people out there [00:49:00] who proposed to tell you what the answers are for your Health and Longevity who don't practice any of the things that they preach and that would be like, how reliable do you feel?
[00:49:18] Mechanic would be whose car is always broken down. Would you bring your car to a mechanic whose car is always broken down? It's rhetorical question. Of course not the guy can't keep his own car running. You're gonna trust him to keep yours running. It's like financial advisors that are that can't pay their bills, right?
[00:49:41] It's I think the same thing like the Physicians like you said, like doctors doctors it like I won't work. Laughter, but look it up in there like way overweight and like not you know, I'm not going to work with that guy's, you know, he knows nothing about health. Yeah, you're an outfit, you know in full transparency when I first got into this space 10 [00:50:00] years ago.
[00:50:00] I thought just Ostrom cream was crap. I thought in so many of these different things and that our doctors are like do. Trust us. Listen, you know stop the Bro stuff that you knew stop the bodybuilding mentality and as I transitioned and was like, alright, I'll try I'll try and I was wrong they were right, you know, and that's why I like the guys at work or that's why we do because they know that you know, and it's sometimes it's just getting out of our own way of our own belief system on things to find out that there may be more or better way to write and so I think that that's a great point you bring up.
[00:50:34] We're coming to the end of the hour and I actually have to interview somebody after you but it's going to be we're going to drop the Facebook live. We're going to go to the live stream and the rest of the show. We'll just be audio podcast only. I would have Brent Jones on because we have the Derby bodybuilding competition coming up in two weeks and he puts it onto that's that's a lot of fun.
[00:50:55] But before we go, I just want to Circle back around [00:51:00] and tell people that the Great. His benefit you will realize from HRT is the outlook on your life will change every day. Somebody is posting a meme or doing a video about how to motivate you and how to motivate you and how to motivate you and motivation comes from within.
[00:51:22] Motivation motivation is more inspiration than external events timing you and making you want to do things and that inspiration comes from hormones. Make no bones about an oxytocin testosterone. Adrenaline DHEA. These hormones make the hair on the back of your neck stand up when you get excited and these hormones will change your life.
[00:51:48] Nothing next no next. What's that guy Gary Vee video telling you to get off your ass and work harder. No get your hormone straightened out. You won't need anybody tell you anything. You'll be in full [00:52:00] motion all the time. Yeah the motivation. I think you bring up a great Point feeling motivation is just a reminder and if you continually me need motivation, you're lacking some internal inspiration to feel right because you can remind I remind my son all day long.
[00:52:17] Get socks off as floor. But until there's some change in his life. The socks are going to stay on the floor every single day. Right? And so you bring a great point. You got to fix what's going on inside and not just try to fake it on the outside Diego pepper Ella's father used to say to him did the line is a DOT to you.
[00:52:36] I think he's referring to the Line in the Sand. Yeah, so that me some gaps. Anyway, ReNew Life RX. Place to go if you want to change your life and then you can go back and look at Gary these videos later and they'll actually have more meaning to you then. Yeah, you're right. I'll make more sense.
[00:52:56] Thanks for being a brother elections will see you again. See you in two [00:53:00] weeks. Take care. I will go to take one quick commercial break and we will be. Facebook live and we will be going back to audio podcast only when Brent Jones joins us. Thanks and welcome back to super hero radio. So I'm joined by a good friend of mine Brent Jones.
[00:53:20] How you doing? I'm doing good Carl. Thanks for having me know of course. It's this is a big deal. It's important to have you because you are The Keeper of the flame of physical culture for the city of Louisville, Kentucky, which started out many many years ago with the Kentucky muscle bodybuilding power lifting arm wrestling everything now, but now you also have a second show you do each year that coincides with the, Kentucky.
[00:53:50] Right. That's right. I'm a official partner with the Kentucky Derby. I partnered with them to put on the fitness show the bodybuilding. It's hard to say [00:54:00] bodybuilding show anymore. Right? It's a physique cell. So we've got so many different divisions, but I partner with them to put the show on and it's been growing each year and proud to be associated with the.
[00:54:12] The quality of production that the Kentucky Derby Festival puts on this is a huge that you know people like I mean, look I knew what the Kentucky Derby was before I moved to Kentucky, but nobody realizes what a big event it is. I mean it dwarfs Mardi Gras it dwarfs everything. I mean Bowman field is a is a is a private area.
[00:54:36] What do I want to say? Are portals are filled here and it's lined up with the most expensive Jets you've ever seen in the world and then so does and so does our our local airport here stand if it field because Saudi princes everybody who's anybody takes their private jet and comes to Louisville, Kentucky for the Derby and it's unbelievable.
[00:54:59] Right? [00:55:00] It's amazing. I mean I even my picture I drew up his each so I've got every year. I've got somebody. Coming in from you know from Hollywood or Atlantic Atlanta that's in a TV series or something in their agent or publicist gets over to me and say hey, can we get do some PR pictures at your show and every year I do it, you know and it's like yeah great, you know, and how many years have you done this Derby shown?
[00:55:26] The first year was 2011. Okay, so why don't people thought I was crazy. They thought I was crazy. I remember I remember because the truth of the matter is you did that show that first time all on your own back because the people with within the Derby Community really didn't they didn't they didn't they didn't just open our their arms and go.
[00:55:49] Yeah body buildings like you you were kind of like well, we'll just see how this goes, right? Yeah it exactly you know, they they did. Stan what the show was about and they were like, all right, you're on [00:56:00] probation. You were going to keep your eye on you and you know, I got to stay in its first year weapon exactly a raving success only had, you know, maybe 90 competitors and had a few hundred people in the audience, but he grew you know, like last year.
[00:56:16] We had close to 400 competitors. We had over 4,500 people in the audience. So it's grown each year. I wish I could say I'm the greatest promoter in the world. But you know, it has to do with being a part of the Kentucky Derby in the Kentucky Derby Festival. Yeah. Now there are there are there are people out there today that have been planning to do this Kentucky Derby show.
[00:56:39] I know a guy at my gym who literally just decided not to do it and I said, why do it anyway he goes I'm just not ready and and this will be his first show. I said do it anyway knowing you're not going to win but as a dress rehearsal because there's a lot of things you're going to learn that you will take when you really do look like you're going to win.
[00:57:00] [00:57:01] Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean if there's no better experience than getting on stage and be in front of a live audience, you know, I mean, you can practice our you want, you know, and a closing clinic or at your home and stuff but there's nothing like being in live audience in getting you know judged, you know.
[00:57:19] Yeah, it's ready to dress Richard. Look at you you make you may think the tan you're going to use looks good. And it doesn't you may think that your diet is spot-on. But the day of the event something didn't didn't go right. You know, I'd say do the event. Anyway, anybody who's thinking about doing the event and they're going to pull out at the last minute don't because no one's gonna hold it against you when you really do look great No One's Gonna Go five years later.
[00:57:42] Wow, you literally look great. But that first show you did you suck big deal. No one's going to even remember you were in that. Show exactly in and this is where you build your fan base up. So if you come in, you know, not at your best. So your next day you come in people are going to compare Evo why God Made You made so much progress, you know, [00:58:00] I want to be like you you know, how do I do it exactly.
[00:58:03] So what so tell me when or something I'll tell you, you know being on a live audience. You can you can see how your mannerism changes so people that you know practice in a you know at their home in front of the mirror. It's not like being in live audience because people especially first-timers, you know, think they either, you know our to walk too fast, or they move too fast on Stacy look jerky and take only experience and be in front of live crowd being judged.
[00:58:33] With a live judging crew to be able to you know, Master those techniques of putting out that stay on Razzle communication State presents developing your state as it requires you to be on stage exactly can't do that in your room. You can't do it in your room. No now you. What other events occurred?
[00:58:54] I'm sorry. I'm sorry what I encourage all the competitors say the first time. They don't just enter [00:59:00] one division, you know, if you're qualified intercom play at least two, you know, the kids use more time on stage more time to hone your craft. More time, you know more opportunity to get your state presents down, you know, and this will pay dividends in the future.
[00:59:15] You know, what when you go to a national show or your pro debut or whatever. You know, what so what events are going to be on this schedule next week. So we've got if it's a physical shell. So we've got the base where all the shit we cover all the bases. We've got Minh City. We got classic physique.
[00:59:35] We've got bodybuilding who got women's physique. We got woman's figure and women's bikini and fitness so we cover all the bases, right? You know, I have a friend at the gym who is a Louisville Metro PD officer Stephanie who's competing this year. She's so excited and she said that I have to go.
[00:59:55] Talk to Elise and see if she wants to go. I always say I'm going to go and I never [01:00:00] show up because I just a couple minutes ago. I was talking about in the show that I go to sleep at nine o'clock every night. I'm like, will it a militant about my health and I am 61 years old and I have to keep the the protection turned on.
[01:00:14] But yeah, I need to go. I haven't been I haven't been to the derby show in years and I really think that maybe this year we're going to go but that'll be harder again. So great. We're so where is the show held this year. They showed us that cell at the International Convention Center. It's just been remodeled last year.
[01:00:31] So it's nice and shiny. We're going to be on the second floor a holster tells the gulf house, you know, so if you want to come to the show, you can get everything at Kentucky muscle.com can register for the show register for you can register for your room at The Golf House. We've got every it's a One-Stop shop.
[01:00:51] And how much is it to attend the show as a spectator prejudging $45 finals is $30. Okay, and you can get those [01:01:00] also at Kentucky muscle.com. That's correct. Yeah, you got to be very proud. You know, there's a lot to be a lot to be said for tenacity and and staying power and you've proven yourself over the decades with the quality of the quality of your shows gotten better and better the attendance continued grows from year to year.
[01:01:25] And now with the Derby like it's like this is like a crown jewel of bodybuilding in my opinion here in Louisville, Kentucky. It's really wonderful. Really why you know something I'm fortunate we get a ton of media that comes in covers this. I know next week. I'll be on just about every TV station in the city The Courier Journal is coming in doing a big piece on us.
[01:01:47] Typically every other year. They'll push it up to USA today. So we'll get National coverage and I'm real fortunate, you know, and I'd like to announce that we've got a new partnership. With the OV [01:02:00] ovw the Ohio Valley wrestling in the National Guard. So going forward will be developing the Collegiate in team divisions in all the shows.
[01:02:10] So this is to inspire young people to get fit too. You know, it's for you know, the possibility is going National Guard or to try the new trade school at the ovw and at the same time they can compete at the show and you know, they'll get quite an experience with the partnership that we've become more forging right now.
[01:02:30] I don't think people know who the ovw is because they don't see the talent that the ovw until they go up to the WWE. But yeah, the ovw is where Dave. Started the over the block and what's that The Rock and The Rock yesterday. I was gonna say, you know rock started at ovw there's a guy that just went up to the WWE that started at ovw that was on my show several years ago Dan Mather.
[01:02:59] He [01:03:00] was a former Cincinnati Bengals linebacker. I think he was defensive end and you're going to see him he's doing great. I mean the guy is handsome. He's charismatic. He's super muscular. He's super strong and you're going to hear his name. Got my show three four years ago. We used to do math Mesa motivation because the guy would be fantastic on the air and he started at the ovw Bobby Lashley started at the ovw.
[01:03:25] I mean ovw has given birth to some of the best athletes that have gone up to be famous through the wrestling channel. It's just amazing. Yeah, you know and it's under new ownership with Al Snow. He's developed a new program. That's. Great school to teach not only the wrestling part but the TV production park behind the scenes part, you know, the writing everything announcing everything so he's and it's going to be accredited.
[01:03:53] So the National Guard is jumping and say Hey, you know our GI Bill will pay for all this so I you know, I [01:04:00] got to both of them said hey, you know, I bet this show we tracked a lawyer people. You know, why don't we work together? That's wonderful. That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. Well, that's it.
[01:04:09] So everybody who's close enough to drive to. Louisville Kentucky, it's next weekend. Not this coming weekend, but the following weekend April 27th. Okay at the convention center here in Louisville. Check it out. It's a wonderful show you'll have fun and who knows maybe like Waldo someone will see me there.
[01:04:27] Who knows? All right, Brent. Thanks a lot for being here. Okay, thanks doctor. Take care. And that's really it for today's show. Hopefully everybody enjoyed what we had to talk about today. I'm trying to hang up. It's hard. I'm producing video and audio I switched from Facebook live. For those of you who are watching the Facebook live earlier and catching the end of the podcast now, but anyway, okay.
[01:04:52] So tomorrow we have the pep talk with dr. Carl page. It looks like we're gonna review thymus and beta for there's a lot of people [01:05:00] out there who really don't. Oh all the things that Thomson beta for is good for so we're going to do kind of a remedial show about that tomorrow, and hopefully you'll be able to check in with that that will be on Facebook live the whole show.
[01:05:13] So check it out and we're done for today. See you tomorrow. Thanks for listening.
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